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In the Polish press: But the Kremlin did not interfere with the transportation of Navalny to Germany

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The President of the Russian Federation


The Western media are actively discussing the statements made by the Omsk toxicologist about the state of health of Alexei Navalny.

The expert's statement was quoted some time ago RIA News... According to the chief toxicologist of the Omsk region and the Siberian Federal District, Alexander Sabaev, no injuries to the patient's internal organs, indicating toxic substances, were detected by doctors in Omsk. Alexander Sabaev reports that he can only say that there was no poison in Navalny's body, otherwise the body would have certainly reacted, and the reaction of internal organs, by definition, would not have gone unnoticed by doctors.

At the same time, the specialist noted that in the past few days, Navalny "sat on various diets." According to Sabaev, a sharp deterioration in health could have been triggered by both diets and the influence of alcohol, "other excesses that we do not know about."

The large Polish edition of Rzeczpospolita discusses the statements of the chief toxicologist of the Omsk region and the whole situation with Navalny. Among other things, it is reminded that the family of the Russian oppositionist turned to the Russian authorities with a request to give permission to send Navalny to Germany. The author in the Polish newspaper emphasizes that the Russian authorities did not set up any obstacles for this - the oppositionist was sent to Germany, to the Charite clinic.

In the Polish press:

But the Kremlin did not interfere with the export of Navalny to Germany.

At the same time, the article tells about how Navalny "suspected that they wanted to poison him in a pre-trial detention center in 2018".

Polish readers were also reminded that the Charite clinic is known for the fact that “at different times, Russian oppositionists were treated there”. In particular, the living Peter Verzilov is cited as an example.

It is these facts that raise questions from Polish readers who point out the oddity:

If Navalny had been poisoned by order of the Kremlin, then why would the Kremlin need to give permission for his treatment in Germany, and indeed for treatment, even in Russia itself.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 September 2020 14: 03 New
    49
    It is these facts that raise questions from Polish readers who point out the oddity:

    If Navalny had been poisoned by order of the Kremlin, then why would the Kremlin need to give permission for his treatment in Germany, and indeed for treatment, even in Russia itself.
    Well, at least some units include the head.
    1. Orange
      Orange bigg 4 September 2020 14: 08 New
      21
      They were forced to turn on a different recording of the conversation between Warsaw and Berlin about the conspiracy to allegedly poison Navalny by the domestic special services;
      1. Temples
        Temples 4 September 2020 14: 14 New
        14
        The old woman is breaking.
        Even Poles Russophobes understand that the old woman made a sacrifice out of Sisan.
        It was not the Russians who trampled him, but the old woman wishful thinking.

        Trump said that he simply turns off the TV when he hears the word Russia.
        The body no longer accepts nonsense.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 4 September 2020 14: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: Temples
          the old woman made a sacrifice of sisan

          And why should she? She has SP2 because of the actions of the United States and so stalls and from such a situation clearly will not accelerate. I even had to make some statements that the poisoning had nothing to do with SP2, although this is unlikely to help much.
          1. Temples
            Temples 4 September 2020 14: 28 New
            10
            Quote: military_cat
            And why should she? Her SP2 is slipping,

            Everything is stalling with her.

            This business is constantly ramming about Russian gas.
            The old woman does not show any agility.

            She has a deterrent factor in Ukraine.
            Now sisyan.
            Previously, a beginner and squeaked which no one has seen.

            Where did you find the old woman's love or tolerance for Russians?

            The Russian people perceive the old woman positively only because Putin is always friendly to her.
            It's just that Putin is a man and behaves politely with a woman.
            He knows that she is zero in politics.
            She is being held in this place because she is a vegetable.

            And this time she carries the blizzard that she was recommended to say.
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 4 September 2020 14: 33 New
              -6
              If she is a vegetable, and Trump turns off the TV at the word "Russia", then who exactly behind her back made a sacrifice from sisyan?
              1. Temples
                Temples 4 September 2020 14: 59 New
                +6
                Do you really think these two are the brains of the west? laughing
                Trump and this granny?

                Okay Trump, behind him really is the power of the Republicans and he represents the interests of Americans whose business is in America itself.
                But grandma?

                She's just a torso. She made fun of herself.

                The Germans are fucking shouting Putin at the demonstration.
                The Germans are shouting Putin!

                To what the old woman brought them.

                Can you imagine what the Germans would shout to Stalin?

                And you speak badly in Russia.

                I didn't think of the TV turned off. wink
                1. military_cat
                  military_cat 4 September 2020 15: 01 New
                  -4
                  So who is the brain? Do not torment. If they are people, do they have names?
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 4 September 2020 15: 08 New
                    +3
                    In the Polish press: But the Kremlin did not interfere with the transportation of Navalny to Germany

                    Well, thank God that for ordinary foreigners abroad - not only in Poland, but also in other countries - not everything with logic is as bad as we Russians sometimes think about them! yes At least some gap in their brains, like at the end of a tunnel, they still have! (Joke.)
                    1. SRC P-15
                      SRC P-15 4 September 2020 15: 16 New
                      0
                      How do you not understand everything! Putin introduced an antidote to Navalny in Omsk and sent it to Merkel. And now he sits and laughs looking at their attempts: the Novice does not take Navalny and that's it! wassat
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 4 September 2020 15: 36 New
                        +2
                        Quote: SRC P-15
                        How do you not understand everything! Putin introduced an antidote to Navalny in Omsk and sent it to Merkel. And now he sits and laughs looking at their attempts: the Novice does not take Navalny and that's it! wassat

                        laughing laughing laughing I have never heard this!
                        Yes, navalmism in heads is "power"! laughing laughing laughing

                        But then what about the Russian analyzes of Navalny, which are stored in Omsk and with which Russia invites Germany to compare the analyzes of the same Navalny obtained in Germany?
                        That categorically WHY does not suit Germany!
                      2. SRC P-15
                        SRC P-15 4 September 2020 15: 41 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        But what about the analyzes of Navalny, which are stored in Omsk and with which Russia offers to compare the analyzes of the same Navalny, obtained in Germany?
                        That categorically WHY does not suit Germany!

                        Well, in Russia, the analyzes are clean, but in Germany you cannot find analyzes among the Novice! How can they get out? Provide instead of analyzes Newbie? lol Meanwhile, the antidote is doing its job - Navalny is alive and pissing as a Newbie! yes
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 4 September 2020 22: 10 New
                        +1
                        Quote: SPC P-15
                        How do you not understand everything! Putin introduced an antidote to Navalny in Omsk and sent it to Merkel. And now he sits and laughs looking at their attempts: the Novice does not take Navalny and that's it!
                        Well, in Russia, the analyzes are clean, but in Germany you cannot find a Novice among the analyzes! How can they get out? Provide instead of analyzes Newbie? Meanwhile, the antidote is doing its job - Navalny is alive and pissing as a Newbie!
                        Alexander! Again you stand up for your own - against Russia!
                        The profile antidote does not eliminate traces of OM in the poisoned body for about 7-10 days, and not two days, as you think, during which Navalny was in a hospital in Omsk.
                        If there was poisoning, then the OM should have been found at Navalny back in Omsk. In Omsk! In Omsk!!!
                        But to get drunk or be fed with something edible to the dump - before the attack of pancreatitis (a disease of the pancreas with the release of a huge amount of insulin) - Navalny could well. With pancreatitis, alcohol and fat are contraindicated, and Navalny abused it.

                        In addition, a recording of a conversation between Warsaw and Berlin intercepted by Belarusian intelligence about the readiness of Poland and Germany for the upcoming announcement of Navalny's "poisoning" has already been published on the air of Belarusian television, which Lukashenko told Mishustin at the meeting.
                        See details - "The recording of the conversation between Berlin and Warsaw on the Navalny case has been published" from 20:40 04.09.2020/21/07 (updated: 04.09.2020/20200904/1576801535 XNUMX:XNUMX) - https://ria.ru/XNUMX/navalnyy-XNUMX.html?utm_source = yxnews & utm_medium = desktop
                      4. SRC P-15
                        SRC P-15 5 September 2020 07: 55 New
                        +4
                        Tatiana, I welcome you! You, like some here, misunderstood my joke! I meant that Putin introduced an antidote to Navalny and sent it to Merkel - now they say, try it, poison it! laughing In Omsk, Navalny was not poisoned by the Novice! It seems that I have not correctly stated my sophisticated idea. lol Looks like a bad satirist of me! laughing
                      5. BastaKarapuzik And
                        BastaKarapuzik And 6 September 2020 09: 51 New
                        +1
                        Wasserman said that Navalny has diabetes. Wasserman spoke about diabetes as if it was a confirmed and known fact, and not an assumption.
                        Strange, if so, why isn't it mentioned anywhere else?
                      6. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 6 September 2020 10: 17 New
                        0
                        In general, type XNUMX diabetes at Navalny's age can be unstable - i.e. in the initial - threshold - stage. Then usually therapists just recommend diet to start. As a rule, such people are not registered with an endocrinologist. The endocrinologist in the clinics has seriously ill patients and so on to the heap - the doctor can hardly cope with them. It's just that the therapists inform the patient that in his last blood test, his sugar is slightly higher than normal and that he needs - or does not yet need to - contact an endocrinologist, but the main thing is to follow a diet: do not abuse alcohol, fatty, fried, sweet, flour etc.
                        The therapist usually does not put a diagnosis such as type XNUMX diabetes on the card. This is the lot of the endocrinologist.
                2. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 4 September 2020 22: 42 New
                  +5
                  What amuses me about the Poles is that they put a spoke in the wheels of everyone. And supposedly friends-allies, and supposedly enemies.
                  There is no one to whom the Poles would not spoil.
                  How good it is that they are now not allies of Russia.
            2. Motorist
              Motorist 4 September 2020 21: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              Well, thank God that for ordinary foreigners abroad - not only in Poland, but also in other countries - not everything with logic is as bad as we Russians sometimes think about them!

              With logic, they have norms - like all people. But the code words "Russia" and "Putin" block the parts of the brain that are responsible for logic. Now the word "White Russia" has been added.
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 4 September 2020 17: 22 New
            0
            Quote: military_cat
            So who is the brain? Do not torment.
            The brain is not who, but what. This is a network of analytical centers in which not well-known politicians, not popular singers, actors and athletes work, but mostly people who do not exhibit themselves, but who know how to work with problems, for which their joint work is called a "thought factory".
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      3. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 4 September 2020 15: 02 New
        +1
        It was Trump who said that he turns off TV when he says Russia, and not Russia itself, so ask him. Haxp your lech here to whom about ... me? This miracle is more interesting to the West than "cheerful / lively nothing".
    2. SSR
      SSR 6 September 2020 12: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Temples
      It's just that Putin is a man and behaves politely with a woman.
      He knows that she is zero in politics.

      I was here somehow arguing with a tadpole on the topic of Belarus and then I saw the historical "reference" "about Drang nach Osten", Nazi Germany came to mind, but everything turned out to be worse, "Drang nach Osten" was already 10-13 centuries! Then I thought, and this is what happens, the Europeans almost ceased to be at enmity with each other, because the seizure of a neighboring territory under modern realities does not give tangible bonuses, therefore they owned colonies, they do not move to the west, there are no "lands" but they pluck the East, where Western Slavs such as Czechs, Yugoslavs and logs, they are almost completely integrated and almost assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons, Bulgarians, almost one pension, the rest are grinded by the West, the Balts, grinded by the West, in fact, they lose their self-identity, Ukrainians, corrode Russian and Russian, Belarusians want along the same path, and other republics, they want to drive away along the path of etching everything Russian.
      This is just my view from the outside, they reduce the halo of all Russian as shagreen skin, and methodically, but they keep silent about this on our screens, young people do not feel kinship with other Slavs.
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  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 September 2020 14: 15 New
    +4
    OrangeBigg (Alexander)
    Today, 14: 08

    +1
    They were forced to turn on a different recording of the conversation between Warsaw and Berlin about the conspiracy to allegedly poison Navalny by the domestic special services;
    The decrepit German woman read from a piece of paper what they wrote to her. And she would first have to read it herself, and turn on her confusion a little. Everyone laughs at her, including Europa.
  • kenig1
    kenig1 4 September 2020 14: 18 New
    +4
    This is a commentary by an ordinary reader, and those in power will exaggerate this topic in their own interests for a long time. Where is the guarantee that Navalny will not be given a pill to the next world in this Charité medical facility?
    1. Temples
      Temples 4 September 2020 15: 06 New
      +1
      Question
      - why is Navalny still not on his feet?
      He's in a super clinic with super doctors.
      1. SSR
        SSR 6 September 2020 12: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Temples
        Question
        - why is Navalny still not on his feet?

        He, as well as creaked, from the race of mega people, BOV does not work on such people, so it's generally strange how he could go to the hospital with BOV. Now the Germans are studying the characteristics of the superman's organism.
        Russians are generally useless, they create BOV, and it is not BOV, but it turns out to be like rat poison, so it does not work on hamsters.)
    2. artifact
      artifact 4 September 2020 15: 28 New
      0
      Quote: kenig1
      Where is the guarantee that Navalny will not be given a pill to the next world in this Charité medical facility?

      the guarantees are the analyzes taken in Omsk, which are stored there ...
      1. kenig1
        kenig1 4 September 2020 16: 02 New
        +7
        What guarantees? Powell's test tube with washing powder for Western media is a guarantee.
        1. artifact
          artifact 4 September 2020 16: 38 New
          -1
          now only Sheinin was reading "Der Spiegel" on the first one; traces of a newcomer were found on the bottle !, which the wife handed over to the Germans.
          at first they claimed that the cognac was in underpants, I have a logical conclusion: - the moronic sniffed his panties then took a sip from the bottle, and his relatives collect the bottles ...
          your versions of the gentlemen ?!
    3. your1970
      your1970 4 September 2020 21: 51 New
      0
      Quote: kenig1
      This is a commentary by an ordinary reader, and those in power will exaggerate this topic in their own interests for a long time. Where is the guarantee that Navalny will not be given a pill to the next world in this Charité medical facility?
      -the guarantees are direct - they have already been treated for a long time. It will die - we will say with a clear conscience - that "Charite" killed the patient
      Quote: Temples
      He's in a super clinic with super doctors.
    4. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 6 September 2020 11: 09 New
      +1
      Absolutely.
      They will poison him and say that he was poisoned in Russia.
      So maybe he's decommissioned stuff ..
  • Revival
    Revival 5 September 2020 00: 11 New
    -2
    The record has already been presented!
    Proof of everything, level 80))
  • antivirus
    antivirus 4 September 2020 15: 14 New
    +1
    shopping around SP2 and other goodies, the price of confrontation with the United States and preferences in Russia for the Germans
  • Maz
    Maz 4 September 2020 15: 21 New
    0
    Oh, they saw the light, but not for long. No wonder the dad intercepted their conversation with Berlin
  • Woodman
    Woodman 4 September 2020 14: 03 New
    +7
    If Navalny was poisoned by order of the Kremlin, then
    he would not have survived. I think so.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 September 2020 14: 12 New
      +9

      Woodman
      Today, 14: 03
      +1
      If Navalny was poisoned by order of the Kremlin, then
      he would not have survived. I think so.
      "You think" is correct. But at the same time - remember the old anecdote about the Elusive Joe? I believe that the Elusive Joe is the bulk. wink
    2. Temples
      Temples 4 September 2020 14: 18 New
      0
      Not any if.
      why are you fooled by?

      The Kremlin did not hound Sisyan.

      It is profitable for grandma for some reason to declare about the Kremlin.
      You are healthy on the head.
      Do not follow the lead of the old woman.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 4 September 2020 14: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Temples
        The Kremlin did not hound Sisyan.

        I have been trying to understand for a long time - why "Sisyan"? Can you tell me? I have no trick, I really don't understand.
        1. tatra
          tatra 4 September 2020 14: 35 New
          -5
          There is a "Confession of a Kremlin bot" on the Web. And from there, "Do you know why kremlebots constantly insult Navalny in the comments with the same words?" Anal, "oval", "sisyan" and so on. communications ". You hear" Navalny ", and some ugly epithet immediately comes to your head. At least the idea is that, I don't know if it works in practice."
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 4 September 2020 14: 41 New
            +5
            Quote: tatra
            There is "Confession of a Kremlin bot" on the web.

            Thanks for the clarifications. So insulting the president is also the work of bots. No wonder I suspected that it was not so simple. People who despise the Unified State Exam and are proud of Soviet education cannot stoop to banal insults, turning a platform for discussion into an ordinary trash heap.
            1. tatra
              tatra 4 September 2020 14: 49 New
              -5
              What does Putin have to do with it? It's about the training manuals of paid Putin propagandists. They also have the same manuals about Grudinin "Grudkin, Grudinkin, Siskin, Breasts Nina, Klubnichkin". The post-Soviet period, which the enemies of the communists created "in their own image and likeness," according to what they are, is a total degradation of everything in comparison with the Soviet period, including what paid propagandists of power are, and what level of propaganda the authorities need ...
              1. Woodman
                Woodman 4 September 2020 15: 03 New
                +4
                Quote: tatra
                What does Putin have to do with it? It's about the training manuals of paid Putin propagandists.

                If "paid Putin propagandists" then there are their antipodes. Is it logical? Moreover, given that the government in our state rarely played ahead of the curve, and most often only reacted to what had already happened, it can be assumed that "paid anti-Putin propagandists" appeared much earlier than their "Putin" counterparts.
                Quote: tatra
                Post-Soviet period, which is the enemies of the communists
                Hmmm ... Again 25 ... Did the communists even have friends? What is your version?
                Quote: tatra
                is a total degradation of everything compared to the Soviet period, including what the paid propagandists of the government are, and what level of propaganda the government needs ...

                With all due respect to the Soviet past, I must note that Soviet propaganda in the last years of the Union's existence outright lost the information war, not only on the territory of our "sworn friends", but also on its own. Modern propaganda still holds on.
                Quote: tatra
                They also have the same manuals about Grudinin "Grudkin, Grudinkin, Siskin, Breasts Nina, Klubnichkin".

                That is, you think that when those who are in opposition to the authorities are insulted, this is the work of bots, and when the president is insulted, is it done by ordinary people? Somehow I don’t want to believe that among our fellow citizens there are so many boorishly educated people ...
              2. Temples
                Temples 4 September 2020 15: 10 New
                +4
                Quote: Lesovik
                I have been trying to understand for a long time - why "Sisyana"

                Doo is full of pictures of his boobs hanging like a woman's.
                Here is sisyan.
                In the search engine type. wink

                It's simple.
                1. Temples
                  Temples 4 September 2020 15: 12 New
                  +4
                  Quote: tatra
                  What does Putin have to do with it? It's about the training manuals of paid Putin propagandists. They also have the same manuals about Grudinin "Grudkin, Grudinkin, Siskin, Breasts Nina, Klubnichkin"

                  Is everything okay with your psyche? fool

                  Did you hold this training manual in your hands?

                  Only anxious can give birth to such rubbish. laughing
              3. Squelcher
                Squelcher 4 September 2020 15: 20 New
                -2
                Communists and liberals are very similar in one thing, they gladly pour slop on the history of Russia, liberals are always different, and communists for the entire period, except for 70 years during which they led the country to collapse (by their wise rule). And if their "truly correct opinion" is criticized or the facts do not agree with the mossy propaganda, then immediately - hysteria, insults and so on.
                1. tatra
                  tatra 4 September 2020 21: 43 New
                  -8
                  How the enemies of the communists hate each other, and constantly throw each other up to the communists and their supporters. You ALL have slandered the history of our country to justify the capture of the USSR by you, you are the only one in world history that has NO positive history of your country.
                  1. Squelcher
                    Squelcher 5 September 2020 04: 55 New
                    -2
                    Communists and liberals have one rule, "Who is not the enemy with them." And now for a minute, imagine your wet dream came true and the communists came to power in Russia, how much blood do you think will need to be shed to drive the camps of the former socialist bloc back to the USSR? Will you spill or send the children of ordinary people again after being processed by propaganda?
            2. Motorist
              Motorist 4 September 2020 21: 21 New
              +3
              by training manual

              Yes, no, he is Xixiang, because the mammary glands hang down. In many pictures you can see, especially with a naked torso. This is a popular nickname, not "Kremlin".

              PS And, you have already been answered ... Soryan. hi
          2. Odysseus
            Odysseus 4 September 2020 16: 03 New
            -3
            Quote: tatra
            At least this is the idea, I don't know if it works in practice. "

            Yes, this is an old manipulative technique of bourgeois propaganda. It was used by Goebbels, and constantly by the Americans. An example is the satanization of the Serbs.
            Meaning - if a word, concept, surname is constantly placed in an unpleasant context, then on a subconscious level there will be rejection. In the West, they are constantly used against Russia.
            Of course, it is actively used in the inside of the bourgeois showdown, as in the case of Navalny.
            Does it work? It works on the sly, but recently, due to the degradation of the pro-Putin manipulators and the decline in living standards, it has not been working well.
            Therefore, now it can be clearly used as an indicator - you will hear "Oval, sisyan, carnival, etc. - in front of you is either a kremlebot, or a person with a completely smooth brain from the category of those who could be convinced that Yeltsin is a democrat, or Putin is a patriot.
          3. forester1971
            forester1971 4 September 2020 21: 05 New
            -2
            Is Navalny a friend of the communists?
        2. svan26
          svan26 4 September 2020 14: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Lesovik
          Quote: Temples
          The Kremlin did not hound Sisyan.

          I have been trying to understand for a long time - why "Sisyan"? Can you tell me? I have no trick, I really don't understand.

          There are several not very beautiful photos on the network. Mocking nickname about sagging breasts.
        3. Adam Khomich
          Adam Khomich 4 September 2020 16: 12 New
          -4
          Quote: Lesovik
          why "Sisyana"?

          Less bukaff to write, and who it was, except for you, everyone knew :-)
        4. sniperino
          sniperino 4 September 2020 17: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: Lesovik
          why "Sisyana"? Can you tell me?
          Keep
    3. bk316
      bk316 4 September 2020 14: 20 New
      +1
      he would not have survived. I think so.

      Who would hound him?
      This is accepted by the Anglicans, but we would have just slapped right by the Kremlin laughing if you really wanted to.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 6 September 2020 15: 25 New
        0
        They wanted to imperceptibly, for example, Politkovskaya was also trampled before the flight, but she survived, then she was simply shot.
    4. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 4 September 2020 14: 22 New
      +7
      Quite right. However, like the others. Somehow in Moscow they wanted the scalp of Basayev, Maskhadov, Duduev and others, and got them. In principle, I don’t believe that in Moscow they wanted Skripal’s scalp - they would, he would have caught a sharpening in the zone. Not to mention Lesha Navalny ..
      Lesha is a strange dude about some chinunikav cuts the truth, about others like our Nabiulina Elvira - silence.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 September 2020 15: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Lesha is a strange dude about some chinunikav cuts the truth, about others like our Nabiulina Elvira - silence.

        Lёtsik is not strange, but executive. Whom they ordered and bites, got bitten on the cake, got the wrong kick in the tail.
    5. VIP
      VIP 4 September 2020 14: 28 New
      +4
      It has already happened: if Vovan trashed Navalny, then terrible scenarios promise Russia
      So I think: maybe someone from Navalny's headquarters tried? Amerians, the "greens" were brought in, but someone decided: to get money, and to hook Navalny on Vovan?
      Remember, when Starovoitov was slammed, there was also money there. In fact, the people became despairing: the wife of her husband orders, or even removes herself, the subordinate chief, and in our youth there was less such filth.
      1. Temples
        Temples 4 September 2020 15: 38 New
        0
        Quote: VIP
        In fact, the people became desperate:

        Our people are good.
        And there have always been scum.

        Most of us are kind people. hospitable,
        Even Navalny would have been met, fed, watered and put to bed.
        If he would appeal to people.
        And they wouldn't even give up to the cops.
        Even though they don't like him.
        But not a killer after all.

        We have taken pity on the poor.

        And there are scum.
        They are always there.
        First the silversmiths want, and then into a stranglehold.
        1. VIP
          VIP 5 September 2020 16: 48 New
          0
          Poet thank you
    6. military_cat
      military_cat 4 September 2020 14: 50 New
      -7
      Quote: Lesovik
      If Navalny was poisoned by order of the Kremlin, then
      he would not have survived. I think so.

      And if the "May decrees" were issued from the Kremlin, they would have already been carried out, right?
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 4 September 2020 15: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: military_cat
        Quote: Lesovik
        If Navalny was poisoned by order of the Kremlin, then
        he would not have survived. I think so.

        And if the "May decrees" were issued from the Kremlin, they would have already been carried out, right?

        Did you now equate the decisions concerning nearly 150 million people and decisions concerning Navalny alone? Of course, I understand that in certain circles Navalny is a colorful personality and even, perhaps, respected, but not by the same amount.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 4 September 2020 15: 53 New
          0
          When the system is rotting, it is difficult to be sure that you want to pull on some lever, and it will not break off.
    7. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 6 September 2020 15: 18 New
      0
      If he continued to be treated in Omsk, in a simple emergency hospital, he certainly would not have survived. A simple question to all of you, why do all our officials go to the West and Germany for treatment, but because they know the situation with treatment here.
  • Mishanya 74
    Mishanya 74 4 September 2020 14: 09 New
    -22
    Why hinder him ..
    The Kremlin knows that in Russia now there are no people as such ... There is an electorate ..
    And the electorate doesn't give a damn about everything.
    At least raise the retirement age for him, at least for Navalny.
    1. bk316
      bk316 4 September 2020 14: 21 New
      +4
      The Kremlin knows that there are no people as such in Russia now ..

      Here you are somewhat right. If there were people - they had put the sisyastya on a stake for a long time.
    2. Temples
      Temples 4 September 2020 14: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: Mishanya74
      in Russia now there is no people as such

      Mishan. if you consider yourself a vegetable laughing or someone else is your problem. wink

      There are hundreds of peoples in Russia.

      Your tongue is boneless. And the wind is in my head. fool

      But the Russian man does not offend the holy fools.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 4 September 2020 14: 11 New
    +1
    So I talked about the same in the next branch ... it is very similar to the fact that our special services deliberately released Navalny to Germany. Moreover, I will note, not to England, the capital of the Anglo-Saxons, but to Germany. And the story with the Novice from the lips of the Germans sounds like trolling of the Anglo-Saxons.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 September 2020 14: 17 New
      +2

      NEXUS (Andrey)
      Today, 14: 11
      0
      So I talked about the same in the next branch ... it is very similar to the fact that our special services deliberately released Navalny to Germany. Moreover, I will note, not to England, the capital of the Anglo-Saxons, but to Germany. from the mouth of the Germans, sounds like trolling the Anglo-Saxons.
      If so, then the impudent will not understand such subtle humor. Not given to them. wink
    2. Andrea
      Andrea 4 September 2020 14: 42 New
      0
      If trolling, then ourselves. It is not customary to turn on the head there, it is enough to turn on the fan and throw it at it ... well, you know what.
      Who would have let him go, if there was even a hint of the use of BOV.
      And the country, one of the leading researchers and former manufacturers, understands this better than any filthy Bundeswehr.
    3. your1970
      your1970 4 September 2020 21: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: NEXUS
      our special services deliberately released Navalny to Germany.
      - where did the plane come from and who asked for help - they let go there
  • sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 4 September 2020 14: 12 New
    +3
    I wonder if he will glue the flippers or disappear like Skripal?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 September 2020 14: 20 New
      +1

      sanja.grw (Alexander)
      Today, 14: 12
      0
      I wonder if he will glue the flippers or disappear like Skripal?
      To be convincing)), sneakers can put it in a corner. Yes, and there will be fewer ends, they will burn them somewhere in a cunning krimatoria, and truncated Lyokhe. Those who are often confused in their feet are usually trampled. wink
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 4 September 2020 14: 34 New
      +2
      I wonder if he will glue the flippers or disappear like Skripal?

      Hang in a coma, most likely.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 September 2020 15: 19 New
      0
      Quote: sanja.grw
      I wonder if he will glue the flippers or disappear like Skripal?

      Next to Skripal, a cottage for Lyokha has been prepared. They will live under protection, far from people.
  • BIABIA
    BIABIA 4 September 2020 14: 17 New
    +4
    If the security forces wanted to remove him, he would have got into an accident or heart failure, you never know. And this is not even sewn with threads, it is roughly mastered with white ropes ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 September 2020 14: 22 New
      0

      BIABIA (BIABIA)
      Today, 14: 17
      0
      If the security forces wanted to remove him, he would have got into an accident or heart failure, you never know. And this is not even sewn with threads, it is roughly mastered with white ropes ...
      This is also clear in the nursery group. But where does the decrepit German woman have the brains? She would have already darned what socks on the heap, but she is still building something out of herself.
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 4 September 2020 14: 25 New
    +2
    Once some unknown German paramedic said that this is a "newbie" it means "a beginner", and the opinion of the chief toxicologist of the Omsk region and the Siberian Federal District does not interest anyone ... And in general, what kind of toxicologist can be in "wild" Russia, as well as what a vaccine can be developed in this country inhabited by "savages", after all, something like this is argued in Germany ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 September 2020 14: 35 New
      +4

      taiga2018 (Makar)
      Today, 14: 25
      +1
      Since some unknown German paramedic said that this is a "beginner" then it is a "beginner" ...
      The nurse is taking the patient on a gurney. He raises his head and says: "Maybe ...?" Do not self-medicate the patient, the doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue! wink
  • Andrea
    Andrea 4 September 2020 14: 28 New
    +4
    Well, everything, Navalny cranks, now he is not needed alive, he needs a martyr, otherwise Merkel will be in complete ass. Even if they do not kill, they will definitely not be released to Russia because there will be a walking proof of the lie. They took the poisoned man to death, and he will come like a cucumber without any trace of BV.
    1. taiga2018
      taiga2018 4 September 2020 14: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrea
      Even if they do not kill, they will definitely not be released to Russia, because, as a walking proof of a lie

      There is an option as with the Skripals, which were either hidden or buried ...
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 4 September 2020 15: 02 New
        -1
        There may be such an option, he is under a subscription not to leave, it seems, and debts are like fleas on a dog, they used a fortunate coincidence, with the goal of not returning at all, and poisoning is an initiative of a mad grandmother. I just don't understand why she needs it.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 September 2020 14: 39 New
    +3
    But really, they took and released. Despite the written undertaking not to leave ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 16: 55 New
      +3
      Even before that, he calmly left ...
  • askort154
    askort154 4 September 2020 14: 41 New
    +2
    Navalny is a fruit of the United States, like everyone else: "the Kasparovs - Saakashvili-Nemtsovs." Our "services" are well aware of this and keep them on a leash. The last of them, Navalny, has already begun to deflate. Naturally, his patrons are not happy.
    We decided to kill two birds with one stone. Remove Navalny "by the hands of the Russian special services" - having substituted Russia, and show Navalny's future successors - we need to work with us with greater results. Loot must be worked out in full.
  • thinker
    thinker 4 September 2020 14: 45 New
    +2
    Quote: Lesovik
    I have been trying to understand for a long time - why "Sisyan"?

    Scientifically called gynecomastia is an enlargement of the mammary glands. The users thought it was funny, and they even gave Navalny the nickname "sisyan".


    https://memepedia.ru/sisyan-navalnyj/
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 September 2020 15: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: thinker
      Scientifically called gynecomastia is an enlargement of the mammary glands.

      Therefore, he was not taken into the army either.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 September 2020 14: 50 New
    +2
    As always, a double-edged sword!
    As usual, it was necessary to cure him and all the business ... after all, it was going to be that, since it was possible to transport him without fear.
    Our gestures of "goodwill" NO ONE and ANYWHERE will appreciate !!!
    Of course, there will be people, journalists and even politicians who will doubt the current German version, and the examination was carried out at a normal high-tech level, I have no doubt ... only for all that screeching sha / L / u / P \ they are nothing and nothing!
    And here, with us ... but we would not have remembered this event twice, if not for the screeching of the Spesfis public ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 16: 53 New
      +3
      Each situation can be turned in your favor, I hope that it will be so ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 18: 59 New
        +1
        Complicated. They would have fought off real accusations, BUT, they also understand this and they no longer need anything more to throw on the fan for "decisive action". They have developed such a strategy and will follow it.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 September 2020 21: 11 New
          +3
          I think that everything is not so smooth with them, as they would like, there are no joints and punctures, well, very obvious ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 September 2020 22: 21 New
            +1
            But they will cover the punctures with different chatter ... unfortunately, this is drinking, for the most part. Very clever, meticulous, they don't give a word. They lead, nowhere, in any way, never.
            1. cniza
              cniza 5 September 2020 08: 35 New
              +3
              Naturally, they will all try to talk and make even more punctures, sooner or later, but they will either have to hush up this matter or they will look very stupid.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 5 September 2020 09: 14 New
                +1
                I already have no experience in this and not a little! They will pull the rubber up to .... and then, they will stir up something NEW. Not the first time.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 5 September 2020 11: 38 New
                  +3
                  And they will divert attention to some other case or Ch.P. , but this time they were repeated and very stupid ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 5 September 2020 12: 18 New
                    +1
                    They really needed to concern us and our leadership with any nonsense.
                    There was no time to sculpt a loto more solid, believable!
                    They have a lot of places where it burns, and some of them itch so much that they cannot bear it and wait!
                    There are their bombers at the very borders of ours !!! How can you perceive it? Only as a direct threat, obvious and very dangerous !!!
  • viktor.
    viktor. 4 September 2020 14: 53 New
    0
    They told Alyoshenka not to drink water You will become a goat! wassat
  • HAM
    HAM 4 September 2020 15: 01 New
    0
    In fact, Frau Merkel seems to have gotten herself into a bad (for herself) story, to rush to bring charges outright (like Lukashenka with a PMC) without any solid evidence ... but she is not a fool, she realized that she was a fool .. . already shut up ..
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 16: 52 New
      +3
      Documentary convinced her, but in fact exposed to ridicule ...
  • Kondratich
    Kondratich 4 September 2020 15: 01 New
    +4
    On this occasion, a meme has already appeared)
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 4 September 2020 15: 07 New
    +2
    Poisoning is the norm for solving the problems of the Anglo-Saxons! This is their path! Yushchenko was also poisoned, the sworn Muscovites, and also survived !! Eh! Good old DIOXIDE! This is not polonium or a newcomer! Give ORANGE! Countries of application-Thailand! Cambodia! Vietnam! Laos! That's where the dog is buried! Who has a muzzle in the down! He stole the chicken!
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 September 2020 15: 08 New
    0
    - Yes, a discrepancy.
    - And we don't care about your inconsistency. (FROM)
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 4 September 2020 15: 13 New
    0
    At the same time, the article tells about how Navalny "suspected that they wanted to poison him in a pre-trial detention center in 2018".
    Yeah, the queue lined up and everyone yelled "I want to add the first poison", but there was no "newbie" at that time.
    1. Husit
      Husit 4 September 2020 15: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: tihonmarine
      At the same time, the article tells about how Navalny "suspected that they wanted to poison him in a pre-trial detention center in 2018".
      Yeah, the queue lined up and everyone yelled "I want to add the first poison", but there was no "newbie" at that time.

      Judging by how the novice screamed on the plane, I think it was in the cabin of the plane that the “novice” was thrust into one place ..))))
      1. rich
        rich 4 September 2020 17: 41 New
        -2
        what an illiterate photo fake - the author clearly did not study well at school and does not know the rules of the Russian language.
        In Russia, it is customary to write - "newbie", not "newbie", as in this fotozhaba and in your comment:
        Judging by how the novice yelled on the plane, then I think it was on the plane "newbie" stuffed in one place ..))))
        1. Husit
          Husit 4 September 2020 18: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Rich
          what an illiterate photo fake - the author clearly did not study well at school and does not know the rules of the Russian language.
          In Russia, it is customary to write - "newbie", not "newbie", as in this fotozhaba and in

          Likewise, in the west, Dmitry is finding fault ... It's not about the photo (funny) It's about nitpicking Russia ... They don't know what to find fault with and why else to impose sanctions .. wink
          And Russia will not be brought to its knees!
          PS We begin to seriously explain everything by facts .. DO NOT BELIEVE! Here are just such funny photofakes .. And how would you explain all this or just criticism and nagging Rich? (many have taken a good position here))))
          1. rich
            rich 5 September 2020 23: 46 New
            +2
            That's not true, Vitaly. I'm not picking on anyone here, including you. It just hurts my eyes. And this is not a mistake. You write like this all the time
  • Husit
    Husit 4 September 2020 15: 23 New
    +2
    An old story .. Navalny was under recognizance not to leave and he was going to Omsk in violation of this subscription! Such a feeling, the authorities gladly gave it away, handed it over to Germany .. Nafiga we need it here !!!!!! Let Germany now have a headache ..))))
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 4 September 2020 18: 30 New
      0
      And where did you get the idea that he is under a subscription?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 September 2020 15: 31 New
    -1
    The materials of the Belarusian intelligence, proving the falsification of data on the poisoning of Alexei Navalny, were transferred to the FSB, the special service will report them to Putin, the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov said on Friday.
    And then Baba Angela felt like a snake in a frying pan. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 September 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    First, the German special services organize wiretapping of their chancellor in the interests of the US intelligence services.
    And now they are persecuting foreign fellow citizens of Novichkom, again substituting the chancellor.
    "Something has rotted in the Danish kingdom of the FRG ..." laughing
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 16: 50 New
      +3
      Like the whole West, it has been fiddling for a long time ...
  • NF68
    NF68 4 September 2020 16: 02 New
    +1
    I assume that the Kremlin is not at all opposed to Navalny being "transported" from Russia forever.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 16: 50 New
      +4
      And it seems to me that the authorities used and manipulated it very successfully, he was useful to her, this is a gift, not the opposition ...
  • cniza
    cniza 4 September 2020 16: 48 New
    +3
    If Navalny had been poisoned by order of the Kremlin, then why would the Kremlin need to give permission for his treatment in Germany, and indeed for treatment, even in Russia itself.


    And there are no such connections between a carriage and a small cart.
  • razved
    razved 4 September 2020 18: 20 New
    0
    From the Poles, such a sane view of this story is a big surprise. The only pity is that sanity is unlikely to affect the course of the unwound next hysteria of the Western "partners" ...
  • iouris
    iouris 4 September 2020 19: 34 New
    -1
    I don't understand what "in the Polish press" means.
    "The Russians flew into space. Is that all?"
  • Rebe haim
    Rebe haim 4 September 2020 20: 36 New
    -3
    The Western media actively discuss the statements made by the Omsk toxicologist

    The author in the Polish newspaper emphasizes that the Russian authorities did not set up any obstacles for this.

    These facts raise questions among Polish readers who point out the oddity.

    What an unpretentious noodle lol
    No wonder that the author decided to remain anonymous - even the "genius" of agitprop seems to be ashamed)))
    Адрес статьи https://www.rp.pl/Rosja/200909730-Toksykolog-z-Omska-Stan-Nawalnego-Odchudzal-sie-i-nie-zjadl-sniadania.html?fbclid=IwAR2w2ma9Gq0Z9rI0oLTDArvyWOj-O5aNuyLQXp5OcFCSsgBi9eseO7jGgJs]
    Google translator to help. See for yourself that и as indicated in the aforementioned article (to which, by the way, at 20:27 Moscow time, no comments).
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 5 September 2020 01: 10 New
    -1
    Let Europe be surprised, but we already know everything!)))))))))) Crimea is not ours, the bridge will collapse and the Ukrainians will take Moscow in a week ... and so on.
  • certero
    certero 5 September 2020 01: 31 New
    +1
    Such very strange poisonous substances from the Russian special services. Doesn't affect the opposition in any way.
    Although when ours trampled the famous terrorist Khattab, the letter in the envelope first bent the Khatab and then all those who touched the envelope.
  • Joker62
    Joker62 5 September 2020 10: 56 New
    -1
    Quote: Temples
    Question
    - why is Navalny still not on his feet?
    He's in a super clinic with super doctors.

    Yah?!!!
    Don't you think that German doctors are ordinary people, yes, with their cockroaches in their heads?
    Do you still need proof? You are welcome:
    Yuri Luzhkov - made ends meet ...
    Viktor Yushchenko - where he was given his whole face, which looks like a terrible sick person, like leprosy ...
    And here Lesha Navalny - according to the latest accurate information - is in a medical coma (count, under anesthesia, although he himself is a drug addict with experience) ..
    May they not let him rise to his feet ... send him to Hell, a one-way ticket ...
    And the Germans, whatever you say, even those lovers of experimenting on the human body, all dream of creating supermen - supermen ...
  • Amorphis
    Amorphis 5 September 2020 11: 14 New
    -1
    Gaspod! It is my deep conviction that a toxic war agent kills, and does not cause arbitrary diarrhea.
  • musorg
    musorg 5 September 2020 12: 02 New
    0
    You have to be complete ....... to first poison the "Novichok", then send it to Germany. To the delight of Merkel.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 6 September 2020 15: 36 New
      0
      And they are this complete ...
  • Vasya Pupenko
    Vasya Pupenko 5 September 2020 17: 16 New
    +1
    "Kremlin" is a loose concept. Most of the local yitka have money, children, and all their interests in the West, which is why they are playing against the Russian Federation.
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 6 September 2020 00: 38 New
    0
    And I will ask again, who and why passed the body under the subscription across the border? No matter what kind of tea or blue he drank.
  • litus
    litus 7 September 2020 00: 14 New
    0
    All studies conducted by Russian doctors refute the version of Navalny's poisoning. To date, doctors have conducted more than 40 examinations: forensic, physicochemical and chemical, fingerprint and comparative, biological, computer. For them, Navalny's biomaterial was used: sections of nail plates, hair follicles, buccal epithelium, washings from the nose, mouth, palms, blood samples, saliva and other secretions.
    Now the transport police are conducting additional checks to establish all the circumstances of the incident. Potapov said that investigators are testing versions of Alexei Navalny's hobby for diets that could worsen his health against the background of pancreatitis. During the examinations, the investigators seized and sent for examination about 500 objects: Navalny's clothes, garbage from Tomsk airport, airport cafe, restaurant and hotel room.