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Again Novichok is already a circus: the point of view of a Norwegian journalist

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel says the Russian authorities tried to poison the opposition politician Alexei Navalny by using "military-grade" poison against him to silence him. And when they failed, they sent their “victim” to Berlin so that German military doctors could expose Putin's “insidious plans”.


This version seems extremely unlikely to the Norwegian journalist Paul Steigan, whose articles are of interest not only in his home country, but also far beyond its borders. The journalist notes that this is already beginning to resemble a circus:

Again "Newbie"? ..

Alexei Navalny, who is now (or no longer ...) in one of the clinics in Berlin, was examined by specialists from a special military laboratory and concluded that there were traces of a chemical warfare agent of the Novichok type in his body.

Other Western countries have expressed support for Germany's position. In particular, Norwegian Foreign Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide stated that she fully trusts the conclusions of German experts and condemns the "attack on Navalny." She also calls on the Russian authorities to conduct a thorough investigation of the incident.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg also talks about the use of a chemical warfare agent against Navalny and mentions Novichok, demanding that Russia conduct an investigation and prove its innocence.

According to Paul Steigan, the use of a chemical warfare agent would not give Navalny a chance to stay alive so long after Novichok got into his body. And, in addition to the oppositionist, the crew and passengers of the plane that transported the Russian blogger to Berlin would inevitably suffer. In fact, these conclusions are based on the statements of one of the developers of the Novichok BOV, who notes that if a chemical warfare agent were actually used against Navalny, then "he would definitely not be resting in the clinic."

And how can Russia now prove its innocence? Could Stoltenberg himself have convincingly proved that he did not?

- Paul Steigan asks quite logical questions.

According to the Norwegian, everything that is happening is a provocation aimed at undermining Russian-German relations and stopping the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. Although this conclusion is not supported by direct evidence, Paul Steigan believes that it is more logical and plausible than the claims of Merkel and Stoltenberg.
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  1. alpamys
    alpamys 4 September 2020 09: 59 New
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    According to the Norwegian, everything that is happening is a provocation aimed at undermining Russian-German relations and stopping the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.


    that's all you need to know, and played out this scene using the fool bulk
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    2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 4 September 2020 10: 13 New
      13
      With Navalny's arrival, a new circus was opened in the Charite.
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 4 September 2020 10: 41 New
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        With Navalny's arrival, a new circus was opened in the Charite.
        The circus is old, just touring.
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 4 September 2020 10: 43 New
          +4
          The circus went on tour abroad.
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 4 September 2020 10: 48 New
            0
            The circus went on tour abroad.
            England-Ukraine-England-Russia-Germany-?
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 4 September 2020 10: 58 New
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              According to the Norwegian, everything that is happening is a provocation aimed at undermining Russian-German relations and stopping the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.
              The reliability of this conclusion is more than logical.
              The same opinion is shared by the "VO" participants, except for "bulk".
              Moreover, some members of the "VO" even propose specific retaliatory measures against Germany from the Russian Federation. Namely.
              Quote: FenH
              It's never too late to counterattack. Necessary pull out the German ambassador and officially accuse the transport personnel of the poisoning of Navalny in the premeditated poisoning of a citizen of the Russian Federation, initiate a criminal case and demand the extradition of suspects, the whiter the proof of the poisoning is, they voiced them themselves.
              I also consider this proposal of the participant "VO" FenH very correct! And I support him!

              The only thing that confuses me at the same time is that Germany will definitely stand in "PoZu" and will deny to the stop, keeping "face" or "honor of the uniform", up to the threat of closing the completion of "SP-2" for the Russian Federation and Germany. In this case, it is necessary to know well the situation in Germany itself on the part of industrialists before Russia begins this.
              And so on Merkel already from all sides in the West preliminary psychological pressure is exerted, that allegedly Putin "does not reckon with Merkel at all and does not regard her as anything." Merkel is painfully proud of such issues.

              In the case of Navalny's "poisoning", the British and American special services simply framed Merkel and set her on Putin, and Putin on Merkel - knocked their heads off.
              1. dik-nsk
                dik-nsk 4 September 2020 11: 40 New
                +6
                Tatyana, I'm not a bully, rather the opposite - putinoid)) there seems to be some logic in the article and I agree that this is a provocation .. but I can't understand why we took Alyosha to the Germans so soon? you don't even need to be a serious analyst here in order to predict further development .. I can't figure out this multi-pass decision of the Darkest One .. why he was sent to Berlin, knowing that he will end up as a beginner ..
                1. volodimer
                  volodimer 4 September 2020 12: 07 New
                  +7
                  Now, if he had moved the horses here, there would have been an order of magnitude more screams. And then prove that "not a camel."
                  And so ... "Poisoned? Who, we? Or maybe it is you? Or he himself? And we did everything to save his life. And even knowing what the Western press would write, we handed him over to German doctors. We have nothing to hide."
                  1. silver_roman
                    silver_roman 6 September 2020 09: 59 New
                    +1
                    To love him himself. It is necessary to find a video where he brushes his teeth as a beginner. And then, as usual, a beaker, with white gas in the form of a powder))). Shake on camera as Colin Powell did before the attack on Iraq)
                2. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 4 September 2020 12: 47 New
                  +5
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  Why did we take and give Alyosha to the Germans so immediately?

                  And to whom has this Elusive Joe surrendered?
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  you don't even need to be a serious analyst here in order to predict further development .. I can't figure out this multi-pass decision of the Darkest One .. why he was sent to Berlin, knowing that he will end up as a beginner ..

                  It's just that the story with the Newbie doesn't work the second time. I have a version about this ... the Germans deliberately announced the poisoning by Novice, in order to show the Anglo-Saxons that they are kind of "outraged and are fighting Putin." fairy tale. Therefore, SP-2 is still safe and do not seem to quarrel with the Anglo-Saxons. And about why did they give Navalny to the Germans? I think that our special services deliberately did this so that this whole circus was played out. After all, there is one question - why Germany and not England? And my conclusions fit very well into the answer to this question.
                  1. dik-nsk
                    dik-nsk 17 September 2020 11: 15 New
                    0
                    as current events show it works the second time too .. and the arguments don't fit
                3. Kerensky
                  Kerensky 4 September 2020 13: 23 New
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                  I can’t figure out this multi-passage of the Darkest One .. why he was sent to Berlin, knowing that he would end up as a beginner ..

                  And if ... if we imagine that everyone was given their say and our biomaterial was provided. And they asked them. If it turns out that in our OB = 0, and in their material there will be traces of OB, oh, how inconvenient it can be! And there is no point in shouting about forgery - the DNA of both samples must match.
                  1. Peter is not the first
                    Peter is not the first 4 September 2020 18: 58 New
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                    If it turns out that in our OB = 0, and in their material there will be traces of OB, oh, how inconvenient it can be!

                    And who will believe us. They will receive our materials from Omsk and give them for analysis to Port Down, and there in this material they will again find what they want in the form of a "Novice".
                    With Lukashenka and his statement, it turns out more interesting if this is confirmed by at least some evidence.
                    It would still be better if soon after the "poisoning", a foreign citizen with traces of the "Novichok" would be detained. But it's too late now.
                    1. Deck
                      Deck 5 September 2020 07: 30 New
                      +2
                      The editor-in-chief of the RT TV channel Margarita Simonyan announced the re-invitation for an interview with Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov. As it became known from reliable sources, men had visited Tomsk shortly before the poisoning of opposition leader Alexei Navalny. According to the journalist, she was not initially going to interview them, but they themselves turned to Simonyan with such a request, having found her number in the phone book of Krasnodar.
                      The interview is currently being edited, but some of its excerpts have already been published on the Web.
                      "The Salisbury story has died down, what have you been doing in recent months and are you recognized on the streets?" - asked Simonyan.
                      “In recent months, due to the pandemic and the ban on visiting many countries, we have to travel across Russia. Have visited many places. One of the last trips was to Tomsk. It was insanely interesting to look at the wooden merchant architecture: carved cornices, platbands, spiers of old mansions, "Petrov answered.
                      "Do you have anything to do with the poisoning of Navalny?" - asked Simonyan.
                      “Who is this anyway? Sasha, do you know? I do not know either. In the end, if doctors found poison in him in Germany, it means that they poisoned him there, and in Germany we were definitely not there. We have iron alibis. Even on Instagram there is a photo with geolocation, and you cannot confuse Tomsk with Germany from the picture, ”Boshirov answered.
                      1. Peter is not the first
                        Peter is not the first 5 September 2020 10: 13 New
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                        Even on Instagram there is a photo with geolocation, and Tomsk cannot be confused with Germany from the picture. "

                        And the non-profit agency Bellingcat will say that I analyze satellite images and social networks of the USA, Poland, Lithuania and Germany, they found that these gentlemen left for some time from Tomsk, on the Buk-M1 air defense system to the airport of this city. And they will present a photo of the air defense missile system on the street of Tomsk with the inscription: "Sasha and Ruslan were here."
                4. DIM (a)
                  DIM (a) 4 September 2020 13: 48 New
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                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  but what I cannot understand - why did we take and gave Alyosha to the Germans so immediately?


                  And what are the reasons not to give? The patient's right to be treated where he thinks best.
                5. forester1971
                  forester1971 4 September 2020 16: 28 New
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                  The strategy of the collective West is that pressure on Russia should not stop in all directions. There would be no poisoning of Navalny, they will come up with something else. And it doesn't matter that the accusations are based on a monstrous lie - for them the descendants and followers of Goebbels, it doesn't matter. The main thing is not to stop putting pressure on Russia. Moreover, both outside and inside.
                6. vVvAD
                  vVvAD 4 September 2020 19: 33 New
                  +1
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  why was he sent to Berlin, knowing that he would end up as a beginner ..

                  This is a classic western fork with both winning outcomes.
                  We did the right thing - now we can blame the other side for poisoning or lying, and it is better to work in parallel on both scenarios. And if they didn’t give it up, accusations that the "bloody regime" was eliminating competitors would be rained down. Fi-fi-fi. And in this case, we would have nothing to answer.
                  1. dik-nsk
                    dik-nsk 17 September 2020 11: 17 New
                    0
                    I agree about the plug, but! if he was healthy (not poisoned), then what is the point of giving him up in order to give cards to the enemy and come up with a fairy tale with a Novice? not logical
                    1. vVvAD
                      vVvAD 18 September 2020 15: 31 New
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                      We do not live in the USSR, and he is not included in the category of travel restrictions. And then: there would be a man, but there would be a reason. This I mean that would not have burned out with Navalny - they would have come up with another provocation. SP2 to the Americans like an awl at the 5th point. And we will recoup our costs in the courts, even if he is finally buried, otherwise the Western legal system will end - it will finally lose credibility in the eyes of large independent players. And for us, SP2 is not a critical project, others are being implemented in parallel, for example, a bridge from the Ural fields to the East within the framework of the Power of Siberia 2.
                      Yes, Europe will carve itself out. But they were going to switch to hydrogen anyway, and judging by the current trends, they would have found a way to refuse from our "wrong" perspective. You can't be cute. We wanted to lie more firmly under Uncle Sam - the flag in our hands - we will survive.
                7. Serg4545
                  Serg4545 4 September 2020 22: 23 New
                  +1
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  but what I cannot understand - why did we take and gave Alyosha to the Germans so immediately? you don't even need to be a serious analyst here in order to predict further development.


                  What matters here is only the desire to press charges. Where Navalny is at the same time does not matter.
                  Just imagine, Navalny stayed in Russia. If Germany wants to bring charges, they will simply state the following:
                  Navalny's ally, risking his life, entered a building protected by the KGB, where a human rights activist who has fallen into a coma is kept under arrest. And cut a lock of hair from his head. Then he brought this strand to Germany. Naturally, we will not tell anyone the name of our ally, otherwise they will kill him. We examined a strand of hair and found a Newbie.
                  And how is this situation better?
                  Could we provide analyzes of Navalny, who remained in Russia, where there is no Novice?
                  So we still have these analyzes. And how does this help us?
                  Nobody searches for facts or compares in any way. And that is precisely why in which country Navalny will lie does not matter.
                  1. dik-nsk
                    dik-nsk 17 September 2020 11: 18 New
                    0
                    If the bulk is not poisoned, as Omsk assures, then what charges could there be? show test results and that's it
                    1. Serg4545
                      Serg4545 17 September 2020 18: 07 New
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                      Quote: dik-nsk
                      show test results and that's it

                      Who can I show that ?!
                      The Germans tell us their analyzes and there is a Novice.
                      Leave your analyzes to yourself. We are not interested in them.
                      1. dik-nsk
                        dik-nsk 18 September 2020 04: 45 New
                        0
                        I am writing about this, if they had not given it away - the Germans would not have had tests and had nothing to show
                      2. Serg4545
                        Serg4545 18 September 2020 09: 40 New
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                        Well, initially, my comment was that the desire for provocation is important, and the facts can be invented.
                        Right now the Germans are spinning a bottle with the traces of Novichok, which they allegedly somehow illegally delivered.
                        So if they didn't have Navalny on their hands, they would have gotten by with a bottle. And the result would be the same.
            2. FenH
              FenH 4 September 2020 12: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Tatiana
              According to the Norwegian, everything that is happening is a provocation aimed at undermining Russian-German relations and stopping the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.
              The reliability of this conclusion is more than logical.
              The same opinion is shared by the "VO" participants, except for "bulk".
              Moreover, some members of the "VO" even propose specific retaliatory measures against Germany from the Russian Federation. Namely.
              Quote: FenH
              It's never too late to counterattack. Necessary pull out the German ambassador and officially accuse the transport personnel of the poisoning of Navalny in the premeditated poisoning of a citizen of the Russian Federation, initiate a criminal case and demand the extradition of suspects, the whiter the proof of the poisoning is, they voiced them themselves.
              I also consider this proposal of the participant "VO" FenH very correct! And I support him!

              The only thing that confuses me at the same time is that Germany will definitely stand in "PoZu" and will deny to the stop, keeping "face" or "honor of the uniform", up to the threat of closing the completion of "SP-2" for the Russian Federation and Germany. In this case, it is necessary to know well the situation in Germany itself on the part of industrialists before Russia begins this.
              And so on Merkel already from all sides in the West preliminary psychological pressure is exerted, that allegedly Putin "does not reckon with Merkel at all and does not regard her as anything." Merkel is painfully proud of such issues.

              In the case of Navalny's "poisoning", the British and American special services simply framed Merkel and set her on Putin, and Putin on Merkel - knocked their heads off.

              love
            3. vVvAD
              vVvAD 4 September 2020 19: 26 New
              +1
              Hello, Tatyana.
              Quote: Tatiana
              The only thing that confuses me at the same time is that Germany will definitely get into the "POZA" and will deny to the stop, preserving "face" or "honor of the uniform", up to the threat of closing the completion of the "SP-2" for the Russian Federation and Germany.

              Still as it will be, but not under the threat of closing the SP-2 project: its own shirt is closer to the body.
              Whether he will bluff is a question. I think he will propose, in the event of an accusation from Russia, to resolve the issue amicably with the cancellation of mutual claims. In this case, it will even be possible to demand additional concessions (but not very large ones, which do not undermine Atlantic ties and do not shed the face of Germany), since the scandal in this case promises to be noble and can spoil the image of Germany among non-Western partners - we have nothing to lose angry
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 4 September 2020 21: 31 New
                -1
                Quote: vVvAD
                Hello, Tatyana.
                And good evening to you!
                Quote: vVvAD
                I think Germany will propose, in case of accusation from Russia, to resolve the issue amicably with the cancellation of mutual claims. <...> since the scandal in this case promises to be notable and can spoil the image of Germany among non-Western partners - we have nothing much to lose
                Nevertheless, a recording of the conversation between Warsaw and Berlin, intercepted by the Belarusian intelligence service, which Lukashenka told Mishustin about, has already been published on the air of the Belarusian television.
                See details - "The recording of the conversation between Berlin and Warsaw on the Navalny case has been published" from 20:40 04.09.2020/21/07 (updated: 04.09.2020/20200904/1576801535 XNUMX:XNUMX) - https://ria.ru/XNUMX/navalnyy-XNUMX.html?utm_source = yxnews & utm_medium = desktop
                1. vVvAD
                  vVvAD 4 September 2020 23: 17 New
                  0
                  Thank you very much for the link. And, nevertheless, it will probably be limited to sanctions:
                  "It was 2018. Russia was groaning from the 34th level of economic sanctions. <...> Europe stoked with wood."
                  And the fact that foreign agents work in Belarus is no secret to anyone. So the Belarusian special services do not sleep, and ours got involved. Get lost.
                  Even without this interception, Russia's attention would not have been able to divert - not America, where life freezes in elections.
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 4 September 2020 11: 52 New
        0
        SENSATION!!! Navalny is German! Why? Where from? From where everything comes from! And because, as everyone knows, "WHAT IS GOOD FOR RUSSIAN, THAT IS DEATH FOR GERMAN!" And it's time for German scientists to publish the name of the "unknown" BOV - "Pervachok"! In large quantities, it is dangerous not only for the Germans, but also for the Russians! laughing laughing laughing

        But seriously, Paul Steigan made an accurate diagnosis: "Circus!" And the performance is directed against Russia, Belarus and SP-2. yes yes yes
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 4 September 2020 15: 17 New
          +2
          "WHAT IS GOOD FOR RUSSIAN, THAT IS DEATH FOR GERMAN!"
          - I immediately remembered an old anecdote - from the time of the first "poisoning by a novice":

          Stirlitz and Eisman crushed half a liter for two.
          - Iceman fell dead.
          - Newbie ... thought Stirlitz, getting up from the table.
          8-))
          1. alpamys
            alpamys 5 September 2020 12: 00 New
            0
            Quote: tikhonov66
            "WHAT IS GOOD FOR RUSSIAN IS DEATH FOR GERMAN

            if Russians are dying from a newbie, then a German will not be taken.
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 4 September 2020 10: 43 New
      +6
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      With Navalny's arrival, a new circus was opened in the Charite.

      Now it's not Charite, but Chapito.
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    5. Shuttle
      Shuttle 4 September 2020 11: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      With Navalny's arrival, a new circus was opened in the Charite.

      Chapito in the Charite. The arena includes:
      Yushchenko is flattered.
      Tulle without Schmorkl.
      Verzilov-poisoners.
      Navalny's newcomer.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 4 September 2020 11: 25 New
        -4
        Quote: Shuttle
        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        With Navalny's arrival, a new circus was opened in the Charite.

        Chapito in the Charite. The arena includes:
        Yushchenko is flattered.
        Tulle without Schmorkl.
        Verzilov-poisoners.
        Navalny's newcomer.

        circus deb.ilov, degenerate clowns?
        1. Shuttle
          Shuttle 6 September 2020 11: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Shuttle
          Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
          With Navalny's arrival, a new circus was opened in the Charite.

          Chapito in the Charite. The arena includes:
          Yushchenko is flattered.
          Tulle without Schmorkl.
          Verzilov-poisoners.
          Navalny's newcomer.

          circus deb.ilov, degenerate clowns?

          Why so insult innocent people with natural features in development, equating them with this peel!
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  2. Insurgent
    Insurgent 4 September 2020 10: 13 New
    +6
    Again Novichok is already a circus: the point of view of a Norwegian journalist

    I predict that this "dart circus"(the circus on the wire) will stop very soon, it will be blown away, right after the telephone conversation (which we quite possibly will not even know about) between Vladimir Putin and Angela Merkel ...

    After all, there are already unequivocal hints that on the "Lukashenka's tapes" obtained by the special services of the Republic of Belarus, one voice from the "conversation of two high-ranking officials" about the "poisoning of newcomer Navalny" allegedly belongs to her, Frau Chancellor repeat .
    1. Machito
      Machito 4 September 2020 10: 40 New
      +6
      In the Omsk analyzes, the Initial Jamb was not found. As a newcomer, he was trampled in Berlin, as Violinists in England.
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 4 September 2020 10: 46 New
        +3
        Putin poisoned and sent to Germany as proof of poisoning
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 4 September 2020 11: 26 New
          -5
          Quote: seregatara1969
          Putin poisoned and sent to Germany as proof of poisoning

          your character is fucked up, not so Great and Influential ...
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 4 September 2020 10: 51 New
        +8
        Quote: Bearded
        In the Omsk analyzes, the Initial Jamb was not found. As a newcomer, he was trampled in Berlin, as Violinists in England.

        We have a whole "gentleman's set" of his biomaterials (blood, urine, etc.) obtained by Omsk doctors. We need to invite foreign doctors to jointly participate in the investigation on our territory or, for example, in China, to whom we provide an opportunity to carry out a comparative analysis of the materials we have and those in Berlin. Something suggests that the German side will not provide their material for comparison, for the reason that they do not have nichrome.
        PS-By the way, it turned out that in Finland the materials of the Skripals' analyzes disappeared from the laboratory without a trace.
        1. Rebe haim
          Rebe haim 4 September 2020 11: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          In Finland, the Skripal analysis materials disappeared from the laboratory without a trace.

          Not really: materials on Gebrev's poisoning have disappeared.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 4 September 2020 11: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: Rebe Haim
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            In Finland, the Skripal analysis materials disappeared from the laboratory without a trace.

            Not really: materials on Gebrev's poisoning have disappeared.

            Thanks for the amendment. hi Nevertheless, this is also strange and confirms the idea about the untidiness of the Western special services and covering up their tracks.
            1. Rebe haim
              Rebe haim 4 September 2020 17: 57 New
              +3
              confirms the idea of ​​the uncleanliness of Western special services and covering up the tracks

              Not really:
              1. According to the OPCW rules (the Finnish laboratory is one of the OPCW-certified laboratories), analyzes must be stored for 5 years. Gebrev was poisoned at the end of April 2015, the analyzes were transferred to the laboratory in early May 2015. The laboratory was obliged to store the samples until June 2020. Accordingly, the laboratory had every right to destroy the samples (although, given that the investigation into the Gebrev case was not closed, destroying the samples would not be entirely correct). But again, the analyzes are sent to at least the 2nd laboratory to verify the results obtained, and I never came across information about the 2nd laboratory and whether the samples were preserved there.
              2. There is no special sense in long-term storage of biological samples, since the data of chromatomass spectrometry (as well as other research methods) have already been recorded and included in the OPCW reference database. In addition, even with full compliance with storage technology, samples are biodegradable over time.
              3. In the event of an assassination attempt on an arms dealer, there are too many "interested parties", therefore, any version cannot be unambiguous: it can be a foreign state and its special services, "domestic" special services, orders of competitors, etc.
              4. The fact of using a substance from the Novichok group is not the most compelling evidence of the Russian Federation's involvement: during the 2007 trial in the Kivelidi poisoning case, Mr. Rink (the same one) admitted that he had synthesized and sold several Novichok ampoules. Where and who has these ampoules now is a question ... At the same time, the responsibility for non-compliance with control over the production and distribution of substances, in any case, lies with the violating state.
              So ... request
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 September 2020 11: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          We need to invite foreign doctors to jointly participate in the investigation on our territory

          they will say that this is all old and unusable
          the point is not to find something, but to stop the SP-2
        3. sifgame
          sifgame 4 September 2020 20: 47 New
          +1
          What are the doctors for? here politicians work and they don't care about the truth
  3. smart ass
    smart ass 4 September 2020 10: 53 New
    0
    How should we underestimate our special services to invent poisoning by a novice)) how did the terrorists not kill us all with such incompetent special services ???
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 September 2020 11: 27 New
      -6
      Quote: Clever man
      How should we underestimate our special services to invent poisoning by a novice)) how did the terrorists not kill us all with such incompetent special services ???

      so we set ourselves up like this ... that's how we are ...
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  5. alpamys
    alpamys 4 September 2020 11: 03 New
    +6
    Quote: alpamys


    that's all you need to know, and played out this scene using the fool bulk



    ps.
    Germans at work (I live in Germany) come up and ask what kind of circus the Merkel has arranged, no one believes in this ... with poisoning.
  6. Maz
    Maz 4 September 2020 13: 40 New
    0
    Farce he is farce
  7. RealPilot
    RealPilot 5 September 2020 02: 09 New
    -1
    There is an interesting point here!
    Now there is a conversation that a "newbie" was inflicted on him (!)

    Personally, Putin, right? laughing
    Then questions to his wife arise, for example, or to press secretary Kira Yarmash what or (ooo-la-la! repeat ) to his personal assistant ...

    And the Germans "understood" this ... But here's the question! After all, in intensive care everyone is NAKED ...
    That is, for the German doctors, the shrewd Omsk doctors were specially wrapped up in a bag? Or put on dirty again? After suspected poisoning? What for? Smell? Circus ... It couldn't be better.

    Lingerie theme is absolutely disgusting negative
    But if our "partners" have sunk to this, then they need a muzzle in their own product, like kittens lol
  8. Buchenland
    Buchenland 5 September 2020 21: 34 New
    0
    And what is he a fool? ? She cut the loot on fools (well, she will cut it twice if she survives)
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 6 September 2020 00: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Buchenland
      And what is he a fool? ? She cut the loot on fools (well, she will cut it twice if she survives)

      the fact that he is no longer his own boss and the money he earned will not be useful to him, he will be screwed up, and this, in my opinion, is the most logical end of this story, blaming the Russians to finish the story with the Nord Stream.

      One thing I can't understand, why did the Russians let him go? only one thing comes to mind that it was all written in advance and your leadership is controlled by a third force.
  • Temples
    Temples 4 September 2020 09: 59 New
    14
    Silence Shisian ...
    But why?

    He was talking nonsense. Absolutely harmless to power
    He lived off the west.
    Convenient for power.

    Rather, he played into the hands of the authorities.
    Oppositionist hamsters.

    .
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 4 September 2020 10: 10 New
      +2
      It was he who was pasturing, and now he was "played".
    2. gurzuf
      gurzuf 4 September 2020 10: 44 New
      +6
      That's right! good Such "oppositionists" as in Russia are the dream of all governments in the world. drinks
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 4 September 2020 10: 01 New
    11
    According to the German journalist V. Sergienko, Navalny disappeared from the Charite on the third day of his stay there.
    It seems that he flew to Skripal for a consultation on the topic "How does the poisoned Novice live?"
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 September 2020 10: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      It seems that he flew to Skripal for a consultation on the topic "How does the poisoned Novice live?"

      He will not fly alone
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 4 September 2020 10: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      It seems that he flew to Skripal for a consultation on the topic "How does the poisoned Novice live?"

      Skripal is just right to write survival instructions yes
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 4 September 2020 10: 31 New
        +3
        It's time for the Skripals to appear with loud statements about the hand or trace of the Kremlin.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 4 September 2020 10: 39 New
          +5
          Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
          It's time for the Skripals to appear with loud statements about the hand or trace of the Kremlin.

          no no no A business "Newbie Navalny"the West did not burn out ... After an epic flight personally Frau Chancellor with "Lukashenka's films", no longer up to loud statements ...

          Here you have to think about something else yes "Who can save yourself" ...

          From such a scandal, "United Europe" can crack "at the seams" yes

        2. tandem
          tandem 5 September 2020 11: 35 New
          0
          Skripal didn’t seem to believe that GRUs were hounding him
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 September 2020 11: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Skripal is just right to write survival instructions

        there is no postal connection with hell yet
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 4 September 2020 13: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          there is no postal connection with hell yet


          I have not seen the obituary for Skripal Sr. no

          The British did not report his death, but on the contrary, convinced everyone that he survived.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 4 September 2020 17: 26 New
            -2
            well, provided that it is not shown to anyone, I think it's already in hell
    3. novel66
      novel66 4 September 2020 10: 31 New
      +2
      how is Navalny's cat doing?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 4 September 2020 10: 42 New
        +6
        Quote: novel xnumx
        how is Navalny's cat doing?

        Alexei does not have a cat, he does not like animals. He doesn't love anyone.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 4 September 2020 10: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: novel xnumx
          how is Navalny's cat doing?

          Alexei does not have a cat, he does not like animals. He doesn't love anyone.

          That's not true. Sisyan loves himself ... as best he can ...
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 4 September 2020 11: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            That's not true. Sisyan loves himself ... as best he can ...

            Well, "flower disease"narcissism, narcissism, I do not even consider Navalny's "virtues" as something new and unknown to the public.
      2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 4 September 2020 10: 46 New
        +1
        If he was, then everyone shits in slippers.
        1. novel66
          novel66 4 September 2020 10: 47 New
          0
          and meows vile
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 4 September 2020 10: 49 New
            +1
            if there is, then he has a rather wildly screaming cat
  • paul3390
    paul3390 4 September 2020 10: 02 New
    +5
    Just for every moronic provocation - you have to hurt your paws! Merkelikha belched out another crap - German business lost contracts for, say, a billion. And so - every time. The price is this - every nonsense is a billion. Or reciprocal filth in another area .. The main thing is that the punishment must be inevitable so that the bourgeoisie develop a persistent reflex. But alas - our big ones suffer from some kind of epic fatness, over and over again allowing them to wipe their feet on our country. Somehow already fed up, no?
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 4 September 2020 10: 06 New
      +1
      Merkelikha belched out another crap - German business lost contracts for, say, a billion.


      everything is planned years earlier
    2. Sergey Morev
      Sergey Morev 5 September 2020 03: 21 New
      0
      When our authorities have the citizenship of an EU country, money is there, children study and live, a villa in Italy, how can you tear your throat out for your country?
  • avia12005
    avia12005 4 September 2020 10: 04 New
    +4
    Western intelligence works disgustingly. Russia already has a chemical warfare agent "Old Man". It is not detected by any method. And does not do any harm to health.
    1. RealPilot
      RealPilot 4 September 2020 10: 08 New
      +5
      Yes! From the substance "old man" mortality is 100% ... From old age!
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 September 2020 10: 10 New
      +6
      Quote: avia12005
      Russia already has a chemical warfare agent "Old Man". It is not detected by any method. And does not do any harm to health.

      1. FenH
        FenH 4 September 2020 10: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: avia12005
        Russia already has a chemical warfare agent "Old Man". It is not detected by any method. And does not do any harm to health.


        They read my commentary on August 20, and adopted it. Next time I'll be more careful. repeat
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 4 September 2020 10: 55 New
          +1
          HILEY-LIKELY

          [img] www.yandex.ru/search/?lr=45&clid=9403&oprnd=2209118107&text=hiley-likes&src=suggest_B [/ img]
    3. Roman070280
      Roman070280 4 September 2020 12: 03 New
      -1
      Belarusian intelligence works best of all.
      They even hear Berlin and Warsaw discussing a "provocation" with Navalny so that "Putin does not poke his nose into Belarus" ..))
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 4 September 2020 10: 04 New
    +9
    Traces of CWA can only be "detected" in the blood of the terminator. An ordinary person is not allowed to live to the stage of detecting traces
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 September 2020 10: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Traces of CWA can only be "detected" in the blood of the terminator. An ordinary person is not allowed to live to the stage of detecting traces

      Naive people, these Westerners, you yourself must try to smell the "newbie", maybe it takes away stronger than the crap called "Norwegian forest". Maybe you will like it.
  • tatra
    tatra 4 September 2020 10: 05 New
    +3
    So, what do the enemies of the communists do? That Putin ordered the poisoning of Navalny, and when his health deteriorated sharply, he almost immediately gave Navalny to the West, waging an information war against Putin, so that traces of Navalny's poisoning could be found there, and Putin was blamed for this. Some kind of surrealism.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 4 September 2020 10: 12 New
      +3
      So, what do the enemies of the communists do? That Putin ordered the poisoning of Navalny, and when his health deteriorated sharply, he almost immediately gave Navalny to the West, waging an information war against Putin, so that traces of Navalny's poisoning could be found there, and Putin was blamed for this. Some kind of surrealism.

      Tatra in its repertoire. Again he zombies about the enemies of the communists. Well, yes, Carthage must be destroyed. laughing

      True, there is a discrepancy, Putin is not yet (or already) not the leader of the communists.
      It turns out some kind of surrealism. laughing
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 September 2020 10: 06 New
    +3
    Who is interested in the truth beyond the hill?
    If we assume that someone here considered himself a helluva lot clever, he has a KOL, in many subjects, sciences that he seems to have studied in passing! Dropouts f f f imagining themselves as someone, with something !!!
    They will now shake test tubes with analyzes that may be quite true to themselves, but THERE FOR THE BULL, nobody is interested!
    We can only regret that because of the face, to which the price, a ruble per pack, our country will again be tilted in all directions.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 4 September 2020 10: 16 New
      +3
      And what is not clear that this is the planned work of the special services?
      Moreover, the strike is a complex target 1 - sevpotok2, target2 - Putin, target3 - Russia.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 10: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Campanella
        And what is not clear that this is the planned work of the special services?
        Moreover, the strike is a complex target 1 - sevpotok2, target2 - Putin, target3 - Russia.

        Whose specialists, it is clear ... the question is, who played along with them HERE ???
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 4 September 2020 11: 11 New
          +2
          And that there are few people in Russia who hate the country, the authorities? So they are used, some in person, some in absentia.
          Bodies and analysts must work, although the result does not guarantee, too many "dissidents" are divorced.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 September 2020 11: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Campanella
            And that there are few people in Russia who hate the country, the authorities?

            I divided the COUNTRY and POWER, and then I counted who and how much there is !!! the number will be different.
            Quote: Campanella
            Bodies and analysts must work, although the result does not guarantee, too many "dissidents" are divorced.

            In those structures, not their own, there is not much! piece copies.
            But for those who are very much in the way of OWN politicians, who are from bottom to top ... yes, they are also protégés of the bosses who were pushed onto them by those politicians ...
            Everything is complicated \ simple ... at least wait, at least cry!
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 4 September 2020 12: 03 New
              0
              In fact, for the CIA, it doesn't matter who they dislike, everyone can be used
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 4 September 2020 12: 14 New
                0
                Quote: Campanella
                In fact, for the CIA, it doesn't matter who they dislike, everyone can be used

                You can \ want EVERYONE, but not everyone will agree to it! Not everyone can be lured, deceived.
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 4 September 2020 12: 25 New
                  0
                  And a lot is not necessary. The main focus!
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: Campanella
                    And a lot is not necessary. The main focus!

                    In different ways ... in our case, you need a LOT ... however, you can only seduce / bribe / use capital letters!
                    1. Campanella
                      Campanella 4 September 2020 13: 45 New
                      0
                      So they got burned in capital letters .. they turned out to be kittens in a doghouse.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 4 September 2020 14: 32 New
                        0
                        The bet was made on the wrong "breed" ... however, the one that .... and bought that. And in the sheepfold, to us, sticking your fox / pig nose is fraught ... for the nose, at least! Ours do not yap, but are accustomed to growl and RIP !!! this is their essence!
    2. Vladimir Demyanov
      Vladimir Demyanov 4 September 2020 10: 59 New
      +4
      Colleagues, I believe he was poisoned.
      - So what was poisoned with or do you think?
      -Well, how can I tell you ..
      - If you don't know what, you can't say, but the poisoning must be confirmed - write: "Newbie" and everyone will believe you who needs it
      believe, they will not check, and if the patient survives, he is not the first ..
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 September 2020 12: 46 New
        +2
        Yes, the operation was prepared very well, everything was taken into account and used ...
    3. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 12: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Who is interested in the truth beyond the hill?


      Nobody, they are only interested in their position and money ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Nobody, they are only interested in their position and money ...

        Everything is mixed, as always ... but the ultimate goal is always the same! Profit, or better mega profits and for a long time!
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 September 2020 13: 25 New
          +2
          Yes, and everyone else should be built and made to do what they need ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 37 New
            +1
            Maybe they are still strong ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 4 September 2020 16: 41 New
              +2
              They are still strong, but not like 20 years ago ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 4 September 2020 18: 56 New
                +1
                Trump can make the minke whales stronger .... I'm not angry, but the bickering that they are now engaged in, among themselves, for the rest of the world there is a chance to start up and build their own life, without the direction of the "big brother" !!!
                1. cniza
                  cniza 4 September 2020 21: 10 New
                  +2
                  Yes Trump is smart, but he was swaddled hand and foot ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 4 September 2020 22: 18 New
                    +1
                    In general, striped events are not only interesting, but also important.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 5 September 2020 08: 33 New
                      +2
                      I would say it is paramount, because a lot is tied to them and God forbid they will collapse ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 5 September 2020 09: 11 New
                        +1
                        Well, yes, the broads can be great.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 4 September 2020 10: 08 New
    10
    German Chancellor Angela Merkel claims that the Russian authorities tried to poison the opposition politician Alexei Navalny by using "combat-grade" poison against him

    And what prevents us from accusing Merkel of the poisoning of Navalny by the personnel of the plane on which Navalny was brought in in a sharia? If we begin to assert that this villain was poisoned on the personal orders of Merkel, then how will she prove that this was not. And I affirm that if they did not find poisons in our country, but they found them in Germany, then Germany has poisoned them. There is no reason for this? Neither does Merkel & Co. have them. I understand that Putin cannot press charges directly. But we also have the media. And a certain journalistic investigation has the ability to develop this version.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 September 2020 10: 33 New
      -1
      Listen to how LF Rink clearly explained what and how you can "hide" even in the human body, and those who do not know where to look for this "hidden" will not find anything !!! And the one who will be prompted how to find this hidden, WILL FIND and DECLARE publicly !!
      We will not rush to draw conclusions, but what we hear makes us think KREPKO!
      1. Vladimir Demyanov
        Vladimir Demyanov 4 September 2020 11: 09 New
        +1
        If you can hide BOV in a person, and this is still WMD, then what can we say about covid? According to this logic, it was necessary to surround a friend of the heart with infected, breathe tightly, ourselves to the bed, and him to his native Germany. And then the expired "Newbies" ..
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 4 September 2020 11: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir Demyanov
          If you can hide BOV in a person,

          You can hide the COMPONENTS, MATERIALS, which will be defined as a SPECIFIC SUBSTANCE, in fact, it is not !!! which has passed the stage of decay / decomposition! DON'T FUNNY it's all up to you !!! And our, servicemen, need to listen to THOSE WHO KNOWS, and not managers with degrees, treated kindly by the upper ones!
          Where the object of provocation was released, they will find something they need! they were prompted by those who know! A subtle, clear game of EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS, against .... like taking candy from a child and not from the one who is a super karate!
          MALASY !!!
          1. cniza
            cniza 4 September 2020 12: 44 New
            +2
            Unfortunately, yes, they won this round outright ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: cniza
              Unfortunately, yes, they won this round outright ...

              They did not win, it was someone who put a paw on us, so that ours would not win!
              1. cniza
                cniza 4 September 2020 13: 24 New
                +2
                We can only guess, I hope the situation will be straightened out and something tells me that there will still be a number of events in the world to link them with Russia and attack us in full ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 36 New
                  +1
                  Quote: cniza
                  I hope the situation will be rectified

                  I don’t want to follow Stanislavsky, but it’s not working differently .... boom to look again.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 4 September 2020 16: 40 New
                    +2
                    We will watch, but I want to see our opposition ...
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 4 September 2020 18: 51 New
                      +1
                      Everyone is doing what they can ... so far, nothing in common is visible.
                      So you can point out something in common, what ideas are close to us and it is worth fighting for them together ???
                      Where is our Danko?
                      Because the campaign for Susanin, as it does not pull.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 4 September 2020 21: 09 New
                        +2
                        Danko will not help here, his times have passed and Susanin is not our choice, but the everyday approach should work, everyone in his place should do his own thing, and not pretend and not wait for someone to come and do something like this .. ...
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 4 September 2020 22: 15 New
                        +1
                        This is also an option, but you should not refuse from social life, activity, because it will not go, will not happen, you have to be present, and sometimes push!
          2. Trotil42
            Trotil42 4 September 2020 15: 49 New
            0
            Quote: cniza
            Unfortunately, yes, they won this round outright ...

            With such stupidity .. it's not difficult .. stupid denial of poisoning .. to call the Chancellor's statement funny and empty is generally an insult .. refusal to initiate a criminal case .. and then a request for investigation materials to the Germans .. well, really ... somehow decided ..
            1. cniza
              cniza 4 September 2020 16: 45 New
              +3
              They call it what it is, and keep Merkel in check.

  • Trotil42
    Trotil42 4 September 2020 10: 08 New
    -10
    Quote: Temples
    Silence Shisian ...
    But why?

    He was talking nonsense. Absolutely harmless to power
    He lived off the west.
    Convenient for power.

    Rather, he played into the hands of the authorities.
    Oppositionist hamsters.

    .

    Yeah .. harmless ... ROSSGVARDIA was created at whose filing? A force group of 300 thousand? Let me remind you ... after the demonstrations under the slogan Putin is out ... Dimon is a thief ...
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 4 September 2020 12: 01 New
      +2
      the National Guard was not created anew, the internal troops were simply renamed
      1. Trotil42
        Trotil42 4 September 2020 15: 37 New
        -1
        I beg of you..
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        the National Guard was not created anew, the internal troops were simply renamed

        Added heavy weapons .. functions .. made it a separate structure .. not renaming .. read the law.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 4 September 2020 15: 43 New
          0
          the number is about the same
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 4 September 2020 10: 10 New
    +3
    the usa made a special operation against northern molasses 2 and sanctions against the Russian Federation
    1. Trotil42
      Trotil42 4 September 2020 15: 41 New
      -1
      Quote: opuonmed
      the usa made a special operation against northern molasses 2 and sanctions against the Russian Federation

      Nonsense ... the same as the inspection by two intelligence colonels of the spire of the Cathedral in Soldbury ... even Putin admitted that intelligence was working there ...
  • set of sets
    set of sets 4 September 2020 10: 13 New
    +8
    This is not a circus. It's just that they are waging a war with us.
    And here any means are good. And they don't care what it looks like. If they could, they attacked and physically destroyed them long ago. I am convinced of this.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 September 2020 10: 35 New
      +2
      Only well-trained and motivated professionals can resist this ... yes, the most important thing !!! No politicians should interfere with them!
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 September 2020 12: 43 New
        +2
        And they are very well prepared, we will see ... Greetings! hi
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 17 New
          +1
          Hi soldier
          They prepared, but what did we do ???
          I'm sure that we have specialists who can defend the country, there are professionals !!! Unfortunately, we have those who are ready for their selfish interests, will interfere with everyone ... they are very high, judging by the events that often happen in our country, with a minus sign, for all of us, the whole country in overall!
          1. cniza
            cniza 4 September 2020 13: 22 New
            +2
            Yes, we have real professionals, but all our politicians do not like them and are even afraid of them, hence such blunders ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: cniza
              hence such bloopers ...

              We can have bloopers ... at their level, this is, at least, the harm done to the country!
              1. cniza
                cniza 4 September 2020 16: 39 New
                +2
                Harm is putting it mildly, but no action will be taken towards them, and if there is, then we will not know ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 4 September 2020 18: 49 New
                  +1
                  That is why I write in such a streamlined way ... they are mostly gingerbread, but they can fall on us! And so I wrote already for three ...
                  However, there are many of us here like that, the company will be cheerful!
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 4 September 2020 21: 06 New
                    +2
                    Much more fun, but worried and not so ...
  • BAI
    BAI 4 September 2020 10: 13 New
    +4
    God bless him, pesticide. Today is the day of the nuclear support specialist. Happy Holidays to all those involved.
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 4 September 2020 10: 16 New
    0
    We have one "theme": we like to refer to "marginal" journalists ... whose articles are seen at best by 1% of the population. And we form an agenda that they "understand" us there. And most journalists throw mud at us!
    But you still need to seek and quote, promote reasonable opinions, get in touch wink

    But to be fair, "partners" do the same! All sorts of Sables, Navalny, Yashins and other Kasparovs are perceived there as our entire people.

    The only thing is that they write nasty things about us, and we are looking for reasonable people!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 September 2020 10: 20 New
    +4
    We laugh ourselves, bro. In addition to the fools and the corrupt in the Western media, there is also Paula Steigans. It is encouraging.
  • Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 4 September 2020 10: 23 New
    -9
    a good reason for Merkel to abandon SP2 while saving face in front of the citizens of Germany, and the newcomer or the old man does not matter. those who persecuted Navalny in Russia probably pursued other goals, but it turned out how it happened. if this is really a newbie, then the whole Russian system of protection of chemical weapons is worthless.
    1. FenH
      FenH 4 September 2020 10: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Wwk7260
      a good reason for Merkel to abandon SP2 while saving face in front of the citizens of Germany, and the newcomer or the old man does not matter. those who hounded Navalny in Germany probably pursued other goals, but it turned out, how it turned out
      .
      Quote: Wwk7260
      if this is really a beginner, then it's not worth the whole European the system of protection of chemical weapons.

      Didn't correct your comment much, just a couple of mistakes, otherwise it didn't sound right.
      1. Wwk7260
        Wwk7260 4 September 2020 11: 42 New
        -7
        after examining the "spire" in Salisbury, the "Petrov and Bashirov" decided to visit the graves of the Decembrists in Omsk.
        1. FenH
          FenH 4 September 2020 11: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Wwk7260
          after examining the "spire" in Salisbury, the "Petrov and Bashirov" decided to visit the graves of the Decembrists in Omsk.

          Yes, yes, yes, and now they are punching your address
    2. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 4 September 2020 11: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Wwk7260
      a good reason for Merkel to abandon SP2 while saving face in front of the citizens of Germany

      Merkel expressed her point of view on SP-2
      one should not link the incident with Russian opposition blogger Alexei Navalny and the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.
      “I think we should share. From our point of view, Nord Stream 2 should be completed. This is a project carried out by economic actors from Russia and Europe "
      1. Wwk7260
        Wwk7260 4 September 2020 11: 55 New
        -5
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        Merkel expressed her point of view on SP-2

        Well, she had such an opportunity at least. means the compromising evidence on Merkel from the Kremlin is more significant than the attacks from Trump.
        1. FenH
          FenH 4 September 2020 11: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Wwk7260
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Merkel expressed her point of view on SP-2

          Well, she had such an opportunity at least. means compromising evidence on Merkel from the Kremlin is more significant than attacks from Trump.

          Of course, Germany poisoned a citizen of the Russian Federation with Novichok and burned
          1. Wwk7260
            Wwk7260 4 September 2020 12: 19 New
            -3
            You probably exist in a parallel reality.
            1. FenH
              FenH 4 September 2020 12: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: Wwk7260
              You probably exist in parallel reality.

              And why is my reality worse than yours, why did you decide that your reality is the most correct?
        2. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 4 September 2020 12: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Wwk7260
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Merkel expressed her point of view on SP-2

          Well, she had such an opportunity at least. means the compromising evidence on Merkel from the Kremlin is more significant than the attacks from Trump.

          "compromising evidence on Merkel from the Kremlin" - these are just your assumptions. Don't rely on them. Merkel's point of view on SP-2 is based on pure pragmatism.
          1. Wwk7260
            Wwk7260 4 September 2020 12: 39 New
            -3
            Quote: Vladimir_6
            Merkel's point of view on SP-2 is based on sheer pragmatism.

            what pragmatism made the FRG abandon nuclear energy? strange pragmatism is not it?
            1. FenH
              FenH 4 September 2020 12: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Wwk7260
              Quote: Vladimir_6
              Merkel's point of view on SP-2 is based on sheer pragmatism.

              what pragmatism made the FRG abandon nuclear energy? strange pragmatism is not it?

              Because gas is not only heat and light, but also chemistry.
            2. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 4 September 2020 13: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: Wwk7260
              Quote: Vladimir_6
              Merkel's point of view on SP-2 is based on sheer pragmatism.

              what pragmatism made the FRG abandon nuclear energy? ..

              It's written so specifically
              Merkel's point of view on SP-2 is based on sheer pragmatism.

              There was no talk about nuclear power in the FRG.
  • yfast
    yfast 4 September 2020 10: 24 New
    +2
    Soon the covid ones will be blamed on the newcomer. Watch in cinemas.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 4 September 2020 10: 25 New
    +2
    BOV type "Newbie", very toxic !!!
    Who among the passengers of the plane, the hotel staff, and the accompanying persons were still injured?
    And no one ......................... lol lol lol , so where did you find a newbie type BOV?
  • Blue fox
    Blue fox 4 September 2020 10: 26 New
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    I would not be surprised if these stupid people also drag Stirlitz into the poisoning of Navalny as proof of the actions of the Russian special services. After all, he also appeared in the Charité clinic when Kat went for the radio operator.

  • Alien From
    Alien From 4 September 2020 10: 35 New
    +2
    Navalny can be proud, now he is a "newbie" "))
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 4 September 2020 10: 40 New
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    A command came from the top - Newbie ... though the circus left, but the clowns remained ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 12: 41 New
      +1
      The promoted brand, the layman perceives, the noise is growing ...
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 4 September 2020 10: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Wwk7260
    a good reason for Merkel to abandon SP2 while saving face in front of the citizens of Germany, and the newcomer or the old man does not matter. those who persecuted Navalny in Russia probably pursued other goals, but it turned out how it happened. if this is really a newbie, then the whole Russian system of protection of chemical weapons is worthless.

    Who persecuted? If the question is about me, I would shoot. So who was hounding? There are many options, maybe you hounded? What? A sacred sacrifice ... will do. Really newbie? Do not make me laugh.
  • A.K.
    A.K. 4 September 2020 11: 12 New
    +2
    This is the fate of all Western puppets. They are allowed to spend nezadumyvaya to extract their own benefits.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 12: 38 New
      +2
      Yes, they understood that he could no longer be used as the leader of some kind of revolution in Russia, now they are using his remnants to the end ...
      1. A.K.
        A.K. 4 September 2020 14: 46 New
        +1
        I completely agree with you. But in this circus, even in the west, almost no one believes except for those who organized this circus. As children by God.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 September 2020 16: 42 New
          +1
          Yes, many understand everything, but the layman takes it for the truth and politicians use it ...
  • tacet
    tacet 4 September 2020 11: 16 New
    +2
    Years later, Navalny A.A. , upon returning to the Russian Federation by order of V.V.P. will be awarded and conferred outside the next title, and publicly. laughing
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 12: 36 New
      +1
      What is your version for? lol
      1. tacet
        tacet 4 September 2020 17: 06 New
        +1
        For why should you destroy your creatures? As for the assignments and awards, this is a desire to see the reaction of Europeans to a similar case.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 September 2020 17: 19 New
          +1
          There is a version that he works on a special. service ...
  • Boris63
    Boris63 4 September 2020 11: 25 New
    0
    I wrote on Twitter about this ... what we need to offer the Germans and the hedgehog with them, synthesize this newbie somewhere in Switzerland and "jump" to his mice or pigs ... See the result ... of the application.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 4 September 2020 11: 28 New
    0
    Old grandma Merkel farted, so here's a newbie.
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 4 September 2020 11: 31 New
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    According to Paul Steigan, the use of a chemical warfare agent would not give Navalny a chance to stay alive for so long after Novichok got into his body. And, in addition to the oppositionist, the crew and passengers of the plane that transported the Russian blogger to Berlin would inevitably suffer.

    How beautifully the play with the poisoning of the Skripals 'Novichok' was arranged in Britain

    And they did not bother with Navalny in Germany
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 September 2020 11: 33 New
    +2
    Navalny is now either a corpse or a defector.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 12: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: Pavel57
      Navalny is now either a corpse or a defector.


      Or a plant and then thrown away ...
  • newcomer
    newcomer 4 September 2020 11: 34 New
    +2
    Little Boy Paul. As he noted that there are thinking people over the hill, even overseas. At least it’s good that the statements of thinking journalists, analysts, etc. and so on, induce vague doubts in the heads of the brainwashed Western people. This means that food appears for the digestion of information, then the bish_ brain does start to work, however.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 4 September 2020 11: 51 New
    -3
    We intercepted the conversation. We understand that Warsaw is talking with Berlin.


    Well done .. as it should, I understood ..))


    Intercepted by our electronic military intelligence, <...> we, of course, are waging a confrontation with NATO in the radio sphere.




    What kind of confrontation between Belarus and NATO? My grandfather is completely crazy ..))
    Well, it's still clear about Russia .. America wants to seize our resources .. And since when has RB been fighting there ..))


    And we intercepted an interesting conversation

    "To discourage Putin from sticking his nose into the affairs of Belarus." I quoted this conversation.



    -Hello, Berlin ??
    -Yes, in touch ..
    -This is Warsaw, as you can hear ??
    -We hasten to inform you that the poisoning of Navalny is a falsification to discourage Putin from poking his nose into the affairs of Belarus ..
    -Accepted, thanks !!



    In general, NATO members are stupid .. Belarus is waging a confrontation with them at their side .. and they broadcast such things ..
    Intelligence of the Republic of Belarus - respect .. Lukashenka is a good psychiatrist ..))
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 5 September 2020 10: 22 New
      -1
      <<< What kind of confrontation between Belarus and NATO? My grandfather is completely crazy ..)) >>>>
      Since after Luca's election when he cheated on protests ..
      Before the elections, he shouted that Russia wants to capture Belarus, deployed troops to the border with the Russian Federation and swore to defend sovereignty with a machine gun
  • prior
    prior 4 September 2020 12: 06 New
    +2
    Of course, the last descendants of Heinrich Himmler, with his racial theory, know best how the "Novice" works!
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 September 2020 12: 35 New
      +3
      They are more the last of Goebbels, so lying and not blinking an eye, I think this is the end of Merkel, even though she herself leaves ...
      1. Husit
        Husit 4 September 2020 15: 58 New
        0
        Quote: cniza
        They are more the last of Goebbels, so lying and not blinking an eye, I think this is the end of Merkel, even though she herself leaves ...

        Before leaving, he wants to shit on Russia at last! And she also headed the "Friendship with the USSR" society and apparently knocked on the Stasi .. She brought a lot of troubles and humiliations to Germany.
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 4 September 2020 12: 07 New
    +1
    Nobody died from this gas. He's probably a new humane weapon.
  • cniza
    cniza 4 September 2020 12: 13 New
    +3
    And how can Russia now prove its innocence? Could Stoltenberg himself have convincingly proved that he did not?

    - Paul Steigan asks quite logical questions.


    Paul, you are a brave man, now hold on and they will peck you mercilessly ...
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 4 September 2020 12: 16 New
    -1
    Oh everyone! This is now our favorite Western journalist!
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 4 September 2020 12: 26 New
    -2
    And where are the proofs for the Norwegian article? And was there a boy at all?
  • Xenofont
    Xenofont 4 September 2020 12: 36 New
    +1
    It's time to rename the Sharite to Shapito.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 September 2020 12: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: evgen1221
    And was there a boy at all?


    Definitely not a girl -
    Paul Steigan
    https://steigan.no/
  • bumerang.
    bumerang. 4 September 2020 13: 56 New
    +1
    The speed at which the Americans transferred the incident with Navalny to the plane of pressure on the FRG in terms of abandoning Nord Stream-2 suggests that Lesha was merged by the Anglo-Saxon owners, hoping in this way to kill two birds with one stone: to oust Russia from the gas market in the EU and weaken Putin's position on the international arena.
    How could this be, you ask?
    Easy. On August 11, his girlfriend, Maria Konstantinovna Pevchikh, born in 1987, flew in from London, who has connections in parliamentary circles in Great Britain and has her own network of bookstores. She accompanied Navalny on a trip to Novosibirsk and Tomsk, and on August 22 she returned back to London. And so Lesha himself is funny, right? Directly a terrible threat to the regime.
    Who is Maria Pevchikh? https://aif.ru/society/people/kto_takaya_mariya_pevchih
    Maria Pevchikh is a 33-year-old Russian woman who has lived in the UK for a long time. Recently, she has often attracted the attention of the public and the media.

    What is known about Maria Singers?
    In 2010, Maria Pevchikh graduated from the Sociological Faculty of the Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosov. During her senior year, she led the Russian national student delegation to the GXNUMX Youth Forum in Canada.

    For a long time, Maria has been living in London. She leads an active lifestyle: she enjoys sports and trains under the program of "Navy Seals", an elite US military unit. Pevchikh is also engaged in business: she owns a chain of bookstores in the UK and Australia.
    Maria has close ties with Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Yevgeny Chichvarkin, in 2009 she unofficially joined the Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK), which was headed by Alexei Navalny. At that time, the 22-year-old Singers worked as an assistant to one of the British parliamentarians.
    According to the newspaper, Maria comes to Russia two or three times a year and at this time she lives with her mother. However, she tries to keep her movements secret: on the trips of the Singers, she allegedly uses VPN services.

    Maria Pevchikh is not registered in any social network, at least under her own name.


    Cherche la femme. Navalny was on a trip with a secret fellow traveler ...
    https://compromat.group/main/investigations/33266-shershe-...
    Navalny's secret companion

    The editors found out that a 33-year-old young woman, who had recently flown in from London, went to Tomsk with Navalny on the plane. On August 15, the beauty celebrated her birthday and went with Navalny on this kind of a working trip. ......
    Photo by Maria Pevchikh https://compromat.group/uploads/posts/2020-08/1598159753_17582829481_74346.jpg

    Cherche la femme. Navalny was on a trip with a secret fellow traveler ...

    Navalny's secret companion

    The editors found out that a 33-year-old young woman, who had recently flown in from London, went to Tomsk with Navalny on the plane. On August 15, the beauty celebrated her birthday and went with Navalny on this kind of a working trip. ......

    On August 11, his girlfriend, Maria Konstantinovna Pevchikh, born in 1987, flew in from London, who has connections in parliamentary circles in Great Britain and has her own network of bookstores. She accompanied Navalny on a trip to Novosibirsk and Tomsk, and on August 22 she returned back to London. And so Lesha himself is funny, right? Directly a terrible threat to the regime.
    Who is Maria Pevchikh?
    Maria Pevchikh is a 33-year-old Russian woman who has lived in the UK for a long time. Maria has close ties with Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Yevgeny Chichvarkin, in 2009 she unofficially joined the Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK), which was headed by Alexei Navalny. At that time, the 22-year-old Singers worked as an assistant to one of the British parliamentarians.
    According to the newspaper, Maria comes to Russia two or three times a year and at this time she lives with her mother. However, she tries to keep her movements secret.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 September 2020 14: 58 New
    0
    Quote: bumerang.
    Who is Maria Pevchikh?


    So she also brought poison?
  • razved
    razved 4 September 2020 18: 22 New
    0
    So the norgi turned on their brains ...
  • meandr51
    meandr51 4 September 2020 22: 03 New
    0
    Why come up with something new? The Western public eats the usual chewing gum much more willingly.
  • Sergey Morev
    Sergey Morev 5 September 2020 03: 31 New
    0
    A beginner is not a beginner. You can joke endlessly, BUT !!! Something happened to Navalny after he began collecting materials in Siberian cities to expose corruption associated with buildings, land, etc. And he was poisoned, without the knowledge, sanctions and wishes of Putin. It's one thing when it's a provocation from outside. The worst is when the local elite solve their petty problems at the expense of the state. This means that the local prince, not even the governor, the United Russia business deputy, having felt the threat to his dough, crossed the line. This means that we do not have a vertical of power and the manual regime is starting to fail. By the way, what will our law enforcement system say about this?
  • Tarasios
    Tarasios 5 September 2020 05: 08 New
    0
    "demanding that Russia conduct an investigation and prove its innocence."
    that is, the presumption of innocence is no longer in trend;)
    The grin of democracy, we understand))
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 September 2020 09: 47 New
    0
    We have bad chemists ..... have spent a lot of money, but a chemical warfare agent cannot send anyone.
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 5 September 2020 10: 18 New
      0
      Why are they bad .. The result is excellent for those who hounded ..
      The patient is neutralized when it is unknown when he will recover, except for him no one was hurt (ugh ugh, do not jinx it)
  • Mishanya 74
    Mishanya 74 5 September 2020 10: 08 New
    0
    *** German Chancellor Angela Merkel claims that the Russian authorities tried to poison the opposition politician Alexei Navalny by using "military-grade" poison against him to silence him ****



    You're lying ... She didn't say that ..
  • 123456789
    123456789 5 September 2020 19: 46 New
    0
    that in his body there are traces of a chemical warfare agent of the "Novichok" type.

    can of type "Pervachok"
    demanding that Russia conduct an investigation and prove its innocence.


    Did you confuse anything, for example, "the presumption of innocence?"
    On the territory of the Russian Federation, a terrorist attack was committed against a Russian citizen with the use of weapons of mass destruction, and Russia has the right to respond with the use of weapons of mass destruction (for example, nuclear weapons against Germany), and then decide whether it is or not. How long did Trump figure out after the "use" of chemical weapons in Syria?
    IMHO
  • 123456789
    123456789 5 September 2020 21: 46 New
    0
    Quote: FenH
    In the case of Navalny's "poisoning", the British and American special services simply framed Merkel and set her on Putin, and Putin on Merkel - knocked their heads off.

    German writer and publicist Jean Paul once said: “An intelligent person will find a way out of any difficult situation. The wise will not be in this position. "