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"I set an example with myself." History of the Russian vaccine

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How tired of us the enlightened West! Tired in every way. And for a long time. For a thousand years, the Russians, or rather the Russian state, have been destroying the ingenious plans of Europe, and later the United States. Attempts to show the Russians their place by military force have successfully failed since the days of Prophetic Oleg, not to mention the tsars and emperors. I don't even want to write about the Soviets. To wring the neck of a united Europe under the leadership of Hitler - it had to be able to.


Attempts to prove that the Eastern barbarians can do nothing and can do nothing without Western brains, Western scientific and engineering thought, also did not bring any dividends. Technology and science in Russia developed even in conditions of complete isolation from the West. Space alone was enough for everything to be understood by those with a brain.

Today the Russians have sniffed the West again with their coronavirus vaccine. Again the first and again independently, in the conditions of complete secrecy of Western developments. That is why Western politicians are furious. Therefore, information on the Russian vaccine is carefully hushed up. Therefore, they come up with different versions about the impossibility of such a development in Russia.

I have been asked questions about the vaccine for a long time. I'm not a virologist. Therefore, I answered in fairly general terms. And then I decided that the best answer to all questions of this kind could be ... an excursion into history... Into our past. I have always affirmed and affirm that history is not so much the past as the future, but in a different setting, in different circumstances. Like classic literature. Timeless plots, transferred by writers to their contemporary environment.

These wild Russian empresses ...


Those who are familiar with history at least at the level of the school curriculum remember well the dark times of the Middle Ages, when diseases mowed down entire countries. For several centuries, infectious diseases claimed millions of lives practically throughout Europe. The echoes of these events are present even today in European countries. And the famous mask of the plague doctor has already become so popular that it is kept in families of tourists all over the world.

Even the methods of dealing with the same medieval plague and other diseases remained the same. Remember the village huts in the west of Russia, in Belarus or in the Ukraine. Those famous braids of garlic and onions, which are an attribute of most rural houses. In more remote places, even conspiracies and spells have been preserved, which supposedly protect against diseases.

Scientists around the world have been looking for ways to combat the disease. The British were the luckiest. During the colonization of China, it was the British who discovered a strange way of treating infectious diseases with Chinese doctors. The Chinese used ... the biomaterial of sick people for treatment. They took a small part of this biomaterial and introduced it into the body of a healthy person. At the beginning of the 18th century, such techniques were already being developed in Britain and Germany.

Russia also suffered from smallpox. Affected by the presence of Peter's "window to Europe." The disease did not spare anyone. Let me remind you of the death of Emperor Peter II. In 1730, the 14-year-old emperor died of smallpox. The disease did not distinguish between classes and ages. And there was practically no protection from it. The beginning of the end of smallpox in Russia was laid by Empress Catherine II. So, we can assume that President Putin and his daughter, who experienced the vaccine, partially repeated what the Russian empress did.

The Russian empress, realizing that it was necessary to somehow fight the disease, decided to try the newfangled remedy on herself. She invited a specialist from Great Britain, Thomas Dimsdale, who secretly inoculated the empress herself and the future emperor Paul. It happened on October 23, 1768. The biomaterial was taken from a little boy, the son of the sergeant major Alexander Markov.

A very limited circle of people knew about the illness of Catherine the Great. She herself and her son were hiding in Tsarskoe Selo. Catherine's illness lasted a week. The fact that Dimsdale's life-doctor treated the vaccine as an experiment and could not guarantee the final result is evidenced by the entries in his diary:

Many other pockmarks appeared, and the smallpox was full, at will, to great pleasure.

Here's a story. By the way, Catherine the Great never forgot any of those who participated in this dangerous experiment. Thomas Dimsdale received the title of Baron and the title of Life Medic, the rank of acting Councilor of State and a life pension. The son of Alexander Markov became a nobleman and received the surname Ospenny.

A special silver medal was instituted for doctors, on which the Empress herself was depicted and the inscription "She set an example by herself." And on the reverse side: "For inoculating smallpox." This medal was awarded to doctors throughout the 19th century.

Yes, there was one more award, which many considered their highest award and about which, to my regret, few people know. This award was ... pockmark from the Empress! According to historical documents, there were about 140 high officials and representatives of ancient families of Russia "awarded with pockmarks from the empress". From a letter from Catherine the Great to the Ambassador to Great Britain, Count Chernyshev:

Now we have two conversations only: the first is about the war (Russian-Turkish. - Ed.), And the second is about vaccination. Starting from me and my son, who is also recovering, there is no noble house in which there were not several vaccinated, and many regret that they had smallpox and cannot be fashionable. Count Grigory Grigorievich Orlov, Count Kirill Grigorievich Razumovskaya and countless others passed through the hands of Mr. Dimsdal, even to beauties ... Here is an example.


Louis Pasteur's admirer of the Romanov family


Today everyone knows about animal rabies. They even know about the danger of bites from these same animals for humans. More precisely, they heard something, but nothing serious in particular. And why should you know? Such knowledge is necessary for specialists. Yet a hundred years ago, quite a few people died of rabies. The disease was spread by animals, it was almost impossible to predict where the next outbreak would be.

The great French scientist Louis Pasteur went down in history as the creator of the rabies vaccine. Meanwhile, the range of his interests was huge. From fermentation and spontaneous generation and the art of preparing paints, primers and oils for artists to the method of pasteurization of products, from silkworm diseases to anthrax, chicken cholera and rabies.

In 1885 Pasteur discovered the rabies vaccine. A center for the treatment of rabies patients was established in Paris. People from all over Europe went to be treated by Pasteur. Including from Russia. Just at this time in the Smolensk province, a mad wolf was "atrocities". He attacked people in the most unexpected places. According to historians, 16 out of 19 Russians sent to Paris were cured in the center of Pasteur.

Here is an interesting resolution of Emperor Alexander III in a letter from Chief Prosecutor Konstantin Pobedonostsev. Very indicative, by the way, in terms of the attitude of the top of the Russian government to the common people:

Get 700 rubles from Taneev. It is highly desirable to send at least the most dangerous ones to Paris to Pasteur, who is very interested in the bites of a mad wolf, since he has not yet had such a patient with him.

By the way, the same Emperor Alexander later helped Louis Pasteur a lot when he opened the Pasteur Institute in Paris. The emperor donated almost 199 thousand francs of his own funds for this. At the insistence of the emperor, on June 11, 1886, a Pasteur station was opened in Odessa. The first in Russia and the second in the world. In July, a month later, the third station in the world was opened in Moscow.

Running a little ahead, we can name one more figure that appeared, including thanks to Emperor Alexander III. Before the Great Patriotic War, 80 such stations and several hundred of their branches operated in the USSR, thanks to which thousands of lives were saved.

The Soviets defeated the illness that disabled the US President


In the 20th century, Russians became Soviet. I myself am Soviet. Therefore, a story about the fight against diseases would be incomplete without a description of at least one disease, which we, the Soviets, defeated. It will be a question of a disease, the name of which is known to any parent already because many treat the vaccination against this disease as a usual reinsurance of doctors.

It's about polio. The disease is terrible. Suffice it to say that every tenth patient dies during infection. And in general, only 50% of patients live without consequences after transferring this disease. And the consequences ... Suffice it to cite a few examples of surviving patients. From among those who are known all over the world. US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, science fiction writer Arthur Clarke, director Francis Ford Coppola.

Poliomyelitis did not spread in the USSR for a long time. The first epidemic happened in our country only in 1949. The first foci of the epidemic were seen in the Baltics, Siberia and Kazakhstan. The disease claimed up to 12000 people annually. You can calculate the number of cripples that appeared in the USSR every year.

There was no vaccine for this disease in the Soviet Union. But there was a vaccine in the USA - the Salk vaccine. It appeared in 1955. Quite dangerous, but effective. One of the virologists, Albert Sabin, created his own vaccine. But it was unrealistic to introduce it into production. The market dictated its terms. Rebuilding production was simply unprofitable.

Two Soviet virologists were sent to the United States: Mikhail Chumakov and Anatoly Smorodintsev. Ultimately, Chumakov persuaded Sabin to continue working in Moscow. Several thousand doses of the vaccine were exported to the USSR. Work has begun on this vaccine. What caused, oddly enough it sounds today, protests in the USSR Ministry of Health.

Today we often talk about some kind of awe for the West. On the constant comparison of our achievements and the achievements of Americans, Germans, French, British ... In the late 50s, the Ministry of Health demonstrated approximately the same approach. The main argument for banning vaccine work was the rejection of the American source material.

What was happening then in the families of vaccine developers is quite similar to the actions of Empress Catherine the Great. Virologists instilled in each other, their relatives, children, grandchildren. It was necessary to recruit as many vaccinated as possible. But the Ministry of Health was relentless. Permits were not given anyway. Incidentally, none of the vaccinated protested. Everyone understood the danger of illness for children.

And then Chumakov acted in the style of "Stalinist times". Seeing the government telephone number left unattended, Chumakov directly called Anastas Mikoyan personally. It was he who at that time was in charge of Soviet health care. Do you know how the vaccination permit was obtained? According to Chumakov's recollections, it sounded like this: "Is this a good vaccine?" - "Good!" - "Vaccinate!"

In 1963, Chumakov and Smorodintsev were awarded the Lenin Prize. And the vaccine has been purchased by over 60 countries, including the United States. The scale of vaccination is also impressive. For a year and a half of use (by 1960), 77,5 million people were vaccinated in the USSR alone! The epidemic was over!

Again the Russians are ahead


A vaccine against coronavirus (COVID-19) has been created in Russia. A patent for a Russian vaccine is already being considered by 150 countries. However, WHO is in no hurry to recognize this development. Cause? The vaccine has not passed the stage of mass clinical trials. Here is what Interfax reports about the vaccine:

Sputnik V (aka Gam-Covid-Vac) is a genetically engineered vector vaccine. For such a vaccine, a virus that is safe for humans is selected, and the gene of the virus against which the vaccine is being made is inserted into its genome. The product of this gene, a protein, is supposed to induce immunity against the virus that causes the disease. It consists of two serotypes of adenovirus, in the genome of which the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus gene is inserted, which encodes a protein responsible for the production of protective immunity.

Why is WHO so reluctant to admit a vaccine? Again the intrigues of our "partners" or "race"? I also have a third option. It is no secret that today there are many people who have had some degree of coronavirus disease. And, as it turned out, after an illness, immunity is not developed. And the second wave of the epidemic for those who have recovered is likely to be fatal. So the doctors are in a hurry ...

Note, we are not waiting for international recognition of our vaccine. We are not waiting for the end of all tests. We will vaccinate people at will. At the same time, special attention is paid to people of those professions that are in the greatest danger. These are doctors, teachers, trade workers, transport workers, etc.

The creators of the vaccine claim that there are not many side effects and contraindications. Here is what the director of the Center for them. Gamalei Alexander Gunzburg:

Contraindications include serious chronic autoimmune diseases: arthritis, arthrosis, acute stages, pollinosis, food allergy. In order not to exacerbate them, you need to seriously consult with an immunologist - this is the same as with other vaccinations, there are no exceptions.

Other contraindications are possible, even likely to exist. Any vaccine during use is overgrown with many additional, previously unknown contraindications. Only now we are talking about a global threat to Russia. About the danger to the whole world.

Perhaps we should also think about Catherine the Great and the future Emperor Paul. About Emperor Alexander the Peacemaker. Finally, about President Putin. Someone has to be the first again. So that on the medal, which, perhaps, will appear in our country, there were the same words as on Catherine's one: "I set an example with myself."

I hope it doesn't come to that, but still ...
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  1. Roman1970_1
    Roman1970_1 4 September 2020 04: 58 New
    +1
    There are so many words about what is not there. The vaccine, tested in fewer than 50 healthy volunteers, has not passed all stages of testing.
    Of course, it's good that the side effects didn't show up in a couple of days, but if they show up in a couple of months?
    Does the author want a medal? In the souvenir shop let him buy
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 4 September 2020 05: 20 New
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      However, WHO is in no hurry to recognize this development. Cause? The vaccine has not passed the stage of mass clinical trials.
      (...)
      Why is WHO so reluctant to admit a vaccine? Again the intrigues of our "partners" or "race"? I also have a third option.
      And why not pay attention to what the WHO says in a completely direct and open text before once again starting to search for enemies and conspiracies?
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      2. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 4 September 2020 06: 06 New
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        Quote: military_cat
        And why not pay attention to what the WHO says in a completely direct and open text before once again starting to search for enemies and conspiracies?

        Why? After all, it's easier to look for external enemies, so that they rally around the leader and don't look around, otherwise they will see how the Putriets are plundering the country on the sly. All to fight an external enemy! Atu WHO!
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 4 September 2020 06: 55 New
          +7
          . Why is WHO so reluctant to admit vaccine availability?

          To hell with him, this WHO! And why are you so worried about what Americans think of us? You vaccinate your citizens!

          Why do we need these scribbles, as in the world who treats the new Russian vaccine? Welcome Russians, get results, stop Covid in Russia. Then everyone will be jealous! And urya shout, what a cool vaccine we have, it is not necessary ahead of time.

          Therefore, the best article would be on the topic: when will all Russians be vaccinated? And most importantly, no Americans can prevent this.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 September 2020 07: 22 New
            +5
            Any vaccine will help the body in case of real infection with a specific disease !!! It's like with the GRIP !!!
            The disease is not going anywhere now !!! the consequences will not be so tragic ... in short, this NEW FLU !!
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 4 September 2020 07: 38 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              Any vaccine will help the body in case of real infection with a specific disease !!! It's like with the GRIP !!!
              The disease is not going anywhere now !!! the consequences will not be so tragic ... in short, this NEW FLU !!

              I would be very happy to share such optimism with you, but the head and leader of the prostrate movement died from the virus back in March, alas ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 4 September 2020 07: 54 New
                +5
                Quote: A. Privalov
                the head and leader of the prostrate movement died from the virus back in March, alas ...

                Did you find my OPTIMISM ???
                I just agree with the opinion of professionals that this disease WILL ACCEPT humanity until .... but until what time, it is not yet known! There are not many really "defeated" diseases, and even then, outbreaks are here and there, because preventive measures are not observed everywhere, not always!
                Vaccine, if \ when, She will be efficient and safe, will reduce the serious consequences of this disease and .... in short, you need to read the articles of professionals, my retelling could. be inaccurate!
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        2. rocket757
          rocket757 4 September 2020 07: 19 New
          +5
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          Atu WHO!

          So sho, the president of America is exactly an agent of GDP ??? Judging by the way he trampled on the WHO ... and other world organizations too !!!
        3. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 4 September 2020 07: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          otherwise they will see how the Putriets are plundering the country on the sly.

          Or they will see that in the beacon of democracy and an exclusive nation, 187 have already formed from the crown.
        4. sniperino
          sniperino 4 September 2020 10: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          it's easier for enemies to look for external ones, so that they rally around the leader
          It's quite simple for you: you have learned one rhyme "The cat abandoned the kittens ..." and you don't need to look for the culprit of everything and everything in general, you already know him in advance.
          Yes, Russia has enemies, and Putin has made society more cohesive. You are united only by hatred of him and the people who support him, and everything else divides. Take away Putin - you will devour each other like spiders in a bank, or in the State Department ... In short, you will devour where there is a shortage of resources and competition.
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich 4 September 2020 10: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: military_cat
        And why not pay attention to what the WHO says in a completely direct and open text before once again starting to search for enemies and conspiracies?

        The vaccine is registered in full compliance with the Legislation Russia.

        Others may have different procedures.

        And yes, a scandal erupted in Moldova the day before yesterday: the United States is testing its Covid medicine on experimental Moldovan rabbits. And the WHO is silent here, like a fish: amerskaya, this is already, according to her, normal ...
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 4 September 2020 11: 46 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          And yes, a scandal erupted in Moldova the day before yesterday: the United States is testing its Covid medicine on experimental Moldovan rabbits.


          There is no "US testing" - testing pharmaceutical companies. they experience in different countries. And if the subjects are warned, what are the problems?

          By the way, you did not provide a link to the "scandal".
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 4 September 2020 12: 18 New
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            Quote: Eye of the Crying
            There is no "US testing" - pharmaceutical companies are testing. they experience in different countries.

            AT...SSCHA experience these American company?
            Quote: Eye of the Crying
            By the way, you did not provide a link to the "scandal".

            belay lol

            "By herself, by herself!" (from)
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 4 September 2020 12: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: Olgovich
              .V ... Are these American companies testing US?


              I don’t know about "USCHA" and "American", but AstraZeneca is testing its vaccine in the USA: "The trial will enroll approximately 30,000 adult volunteers at 80 sites in the United States". Moderna too. I think everyone else.

              Quote: Olgovich

              "By herself, by herself!" (from)


              Naturally, I looked. There is nothing. So far, I think you lied.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 4 September 2020 13: 04 New
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                Quote: Eye of the Crying
                I don't know about "SSCHA" and "Amerin", but AstraZeneca is experiencing their vaccine in the USA: "The trial will enroll approximately 30,000 adult volunteers at 80 sites in the United States "

                You should still learn the word "will".

                Then and let's talk.


                Quote: Eye of the Crying
                Naturally, I looked. There is nothing. So far, I think you lied.

                request
                Why don't I give a damn?
                1. Rebe haim
                  Rebe haim 4 September 2020 14: 14 New
                  +2
                  You should also learn the word "will".
                  Then we'll talk.

                  Well, let's talk about the modal verb will. What doesn't suit you? Depending on the context, it can be used to express both the future and the present. Simple future tense (Future Simple) in general is often used to express future intentions / actions, the decision about which was made at the time of speech.
                  In addition, this phrase is taken from a press release dated 31.08.2020/3/04.09.2020 by the National Institute of Allergology and Infectious Diseases (USA), stating that the XNUMXrd phase of trials of the AstraZeneca vaccine has begun in the USA. Today is XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Thus, tests have already begun and are being carried out in the United States. Links are attached for those wishing to participate.
                  Too fresh for you? Well, no problem - there it was also officially announced that the 27.07.2020-phase trials of the vaccine developed by Moderna in collaboration with the National Institute of Allergology and Infectious Diseases began on July 3, XNUMX.
                  So yes, Phase 3 testing is being conducted by American companies in the United States.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 4 September 2020 14: 26 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Rebe Haim
                    Well, let's talk about the modal verb will. What doesn't suit you?

                    Satisfied with everything. What?
                    Quote: Rebe Haim
                    Future Simple is often used in general. to express future intentions / actions, the decision about which was made at the time of the speech.

                    FUTURE, Yes. Got it, didn't it?
                    Quote: Rebe Haim
                    In addition, this phrase is taken from a press release dated 31.08.2020/3/04.09.2020 by the National Institute of Allergology and Infectious Diseases (USA), stating that the XNUMXrd phase of trials of the AstraZeneca vaccine has begun in the USA. Today is XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Thus, tests have already begun and are being carried out in the United States. Links are attached for those wishing to participate.

                    Will doesn't mean already. fool Submit a press release about ALREADY GOING, yes.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 4 September 2020 14: 38 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      Submit a press release about ALREADY GOING, yes.

                      Monday, July 27th, 2020

                      Phase 3 clinical trial of investigational vaccine for COVID-19 begins
                      Multi-site trial to test candidate developed by Moderna and NIH.
                      https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/phase-3-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

                      Biotech
                      Pfizer, BioNTech start their COVID-19 vax phase 3, squaring off with Moderna
                      by Ben Adams | July 28, 2020 3: 34am

                      https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/pfizer-biontech-start-their-covid-vax-phase-3-squaring-off-moderna
                      1. Liam
                        Liam 4 September 2020 14: 50 New
                        0
                        An inside look at Pfizer's Phase 3 COVID-19 vaccine trial - YouTube
                        https://youtu.be/qDFJXdu0w2k


                        Ymperets)
                      2. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 5 September 2020 09: 42 New
                        0
                        Quote: Liam
                        An inside look at Pfizer's Phase 3 COVID-19 vaccine trial - YouTube
                        https://youtu.be/qDFJXdu0w2k

                        Ymperets)


                        So what, washer of italian n?)
                  2. Rebe haim
                    Rebe haim 4 September 2020 15: 31 New
                    0
                    Depending on the context, it can be used to express both the future and present tense.

                    examples:
                    In fine weather, he will often sit in the sun - In fine weather, he often sits in the sun.
                    I like it and I will buy it! - I like it and I will buy it!
                    Will doesn't mean already. fool Submit a press release on the GOING already, yes.
                    lol
                    Well, that is, when they tell you in the release that the tests have begun, then these are not "GOING" at all, but do not understand which ones in the future ... Originally, you will not say anything, keep it up good
                    Well, then let's once again deal with the release (which, as I understand it, you did not read from the principle):
                    "A multi-site, Phase 3 clinical trial evaluating an investigational COVID-19 vaccine known as AZD1222 has begun. The trial will enroll approximately 30,000 adult volunteers at 80 sites in the United States to evaluate if the candidate vaccine can prevent symptomatic coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). "
                    So:
                    1. has begun - "classic" Present Perfect. Since the 3rd phase began, then this is the "GOING" (c) tests.
                    2. 30000 volunteers is the minimum target for a reliable assessment of vaccine efficacy. The vaccine is not tested at a time on all 30. Today it may be 000, tomorrow 3000, but the trials will not end sooner than reaching the number of 5000 trials. That is why the modal verb is used will .
                    https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/phase-3-clinical-testing-us-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-begins - вот и ссылка на релиз, почитаете на досуге.
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 5 September 2020 09: 41 New
                      0
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      I like it and I will buy it! - I like it and I will buy it!

                      WILL BUY, got it, no? This is FUTURE time.
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      Well, that is, when they tell you in the release that the tests have begun, then these are not "GOING" at all, but do not understand what in the future ...

                      For the tanker: it was written:
                      "The trial will enroll approximately 30,000 adult volunteers at 80 sites in the United States

                      WHERE has begun?
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      Today it may be 3000, tomorrow 5000, but the tests will not end sooner than reaching the number of 30000 tests. This is why the modal verb will is used.

                      Used to indicate that there will be 30000 testers in the FUTURE after testing begins. There is no trace of a breakdown of 5000,3000.

                      Got it, no?
                    2. Rebe haim
                      Rebe haim 5 September 2020 11: 16 New
                      -1
                      I love it and I will buy it!
                      Buy it (now), PRESENT - "Got it, don't you?" (from)

                      WHERE has begun?
                      - and here he is:
                      A multi-site, Phase 3 clinical trial evaluating an investigational COVID-19 vaccine known as AZD1222 has begun... The trial will enroll approximately 30,000 adult volunteers at 80 sites in the United States to evaluate if the candidate vaccine can prevent symptomatic coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

                      "Got it, didn't it?" (from)

                      Used to indicate that there will be 30000 testers in the FUTURE after testing begins. There is no trace of a breakdown of 5000,3000.

                      The breakdown is for you only, as an example, for ease of understanding.
                      "Got it, didn't it?" (from)

                      Of course it's not your problem that you think exclusively by the rules of grammar of the Russian language, in which there are only 3 tenses - past, present and future. But in English there are 24 ...

                      Submit a press release about ALREADY GOING, yes.

                      Introduced, and? Judging by the "silence", with the fact that the phase 3 clinical trials to evaluate the vaccine have begun, it is being conducted by an American company in the United States, have you already reconciled?
                    3. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 5 September 2020 12: 02 New
                      0
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      Buy it (now)

                      BUY is the future.

                      Past time ....... future
                      I bought; bought; bought ........ I will buy
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      A multi-site, Phase 3 clinical trial evaluating an investigational COVID-19 vaccine known as AZD1222 has begun.

                      fool
                      WHERE is here:
                      "The trial will enroll approximately 30,000 adult volunteers at 80 sites in the United States
                      -has begun? fool
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      The breakdown is for you only, as an example, for ease of understanding.
                      "Got it, didn't it?" (from)

                      Stupid breakdown has nothing to do with the text
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      Of course it's not your problem that you think exclusively by the rules of grammar of the Russian language, in which there are only 3 tenses - past, present and future. But in English there are 24 ...

                      Non-Russian, rules use (it is a tool), not thinking with them.

                      The above sentence-WILL be carried out

                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      Introduced, and? Judging by the "silence", since the phase 3 clinical trials to evaluate the vaccine have begun, it is being conducted by an American company in the United States, you have already reconciled?

                      I fought with this ....? fool belay

                      I have rightly pointed out that in the above sentence tests are assumed in the FUTURE.

                      Finally, didn't it?
                    4. Rebe haim
                      Rebe haim 5 September 2020 13: 09 New
                      0
                      BUY is the future.

                      In the case of the offer "I like it and I will buy it!" - this is the present - I will buy (now).
                      That's why you missed the 2nd example I gave: "In fine weather, he will often sit in the sun" - In good weather, he often sits in the sun. For this does not fit into the picture you are used to.
                      I ... fought with this? fool belay

                      Exactly:
                      Submit a press release about ALREADY GOING

                      Provided a link to the full release text, and? And silence...
                      Stupid breakdown has nothing to do with the text
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      Stupid breakdown has nothing to do with the text

                      Well, so smart - "smart breakdown", and the rest - what is left ...
                      Non-Russian, rules are used (this is a tool), not thought by them.

                      And here, my Aryan friend, you are right. But this does not negate the fact that there are 24 times in English, and not the three you are used to.
                      "Finally, didn't it?" (from)
                    5. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 5 September 2020 16: 01 New
                      0
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      In the case of the offer "I like it and I will buy it!" - this is the present - I will buy (now).

                      BUY IN THE FUTURE
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      That's why you missed the 2nd example I gave: "In fine weather, he will often sit in the sun" - In good weather, he often sits in the sun. For this does not fit into the picture you are used to.

                      Please: In good weather, he will often sit in the sun
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      Submit a press release about ALREADY GOING

                      Provided a link to the full release text, and? And silence...

                      Submitted at my suggestion - and well. What is going to happen?
                      Quote: Rebe Haim
                      And here, my Aryan friend, you are right. But this does not negate the fact that there are 24 times in English, and not the three you are used to.

                      Yes, even a hundred. So what? belay
  • krops777
    krops777 4 September 2020 14: 32 New
    +1
    And why not pay attention to what the WHO says in a completely direct and open text before once again starting to search for enemies and conspiracies?


    Whose WHO? I think the answer is clear, there is a lot of money at stake, transnational pharmaceutical companies do not want to lose profits, the catch is that they do not have time and Russia is ahead of the whole answer.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 4 September 2020 14: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: krops777
      Whose WHO? I think the answer is clear

      USA? And Trump thinks it's Chinese.

      https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5ec30f859a7947c36f567647
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 4 September 2020 15: 03 New
        0
        Quote: military_cat
        And Trump thinks ...
        Do you read Trump's thoughts, or are you just sure: does the politician have what is on his mind - then on the tongue?
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 4 September 2020 16: 33 New
          +1
          Well, Trump argued why WHO was acting against US interests.
  • Far B
    Far B 4 September 2020 05: 37 New
    14
    After the author's introduction, it was a sinful thing to think that he would then talk about the achievements of Russian / Soviet medicine (and there are a huge number of them, suffice it to recall Pirogov, Pavlov, Mechnikov, Sechenov, Botkin, etc.). But no - he talked about how the Russian rulers patronized new medical developments (surprise - all the examples given came from the West!), Catherine even tested the vaccine herself. Well, and the cherry on top - Putin and his daughter, it turns out, repeated her feat. Actually, I think, for the sake of mentioning Putin, everything was written.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 September 2020 05: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Dalny V
      Well, and the cherry on top - Putin and his daughter, it turns out, repeated her feat. Actually, I suppose, for the sake of this phrase, everything was written.

      let them continue ...
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 4 September 2020 12: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Dalny V
      Catherine even tested the vaccine herself. Well, and the cherry on top - Putin and his daughter, it turns out, repeated her feat. Actually, I think, for the sake of mentioning Putin, everything was written.
      Did Catherine find many followers of her feat among the rulers? Thousands of pages would have been written about each of them in any self-respecting society. For you, this is not a feat or even a selfless act, but nothing; some people can only see stupidity in such actions. Whether it's patch pockets and a tapered sleeve ...
    3. Rebe haim
      Rebe haim 4 September 2020 16: 35 New
      +3
      So this is a classic feature of Mr. Staver, he has almost all his articles purely for the sake of the mentioned "cherry" laughing
      A large part of the article is plagiarism from the site of the Russian Rospotrebnadzor, "somewhat modified" to please the "correct" ideological line (the situation with the "Ministry of Health" especially "smiled"). Those who wish to compare - http://cgon.rospotrebnadzor.ru/content/33/45/3706/
      I will add my own "cherry": the live vaccine of Chumakov / Saperstein is vaccinated only after two vaccinations with the inactivated Salk vaccine, while in Russia IPV is still purchased abroad ...
      Someone has to be the first again.

      Hmm ... I don't see Mr. Staver in the forefront. request
  • snake
    snake 4 September 2020 12: 55 New
    0
    Why do we need this untested vaccine? The author, however, showed us a "special path" for which Russia is so famous.
    Those famous braids of garlic and onions, which are an attribute of most rural houses. In more remote places, even conspiracies and spells have been preserved, which supposedly protect against diseases.

    That's it, guys, I ran for garlic and onions. Plus, I’ll look for a witch doctor. Like this:

    And the author's thinking is so non-standard! I, he says, am not a virologist, but now we will go back in time (where we did not know about viruses yet), and we will receive answers to all questions. At least stand, at least fall ...
  • Eugen alpine
    Eugen alpine 4 September 2020 05: 04 New
    +1
    Good article. Good business. The fact that the creation of a vaccine is being snooped upon is quite logical and expected. As a physician working with covid patients, I am very excited about the vaccine. Of course, I myself use the vaccine as soon as it is available in Vladivostok. Regular vaccination against viral hepatitis and tick-borne encephalitis has entered our lives, and I am sure it will be the same with covid.
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 4 September 2020 07: 03 New
      +6
      How do you like the "patients" from the site that have negatively affected you? Apart from the word "Putin", it seems that they did not see anything from the article. I think they are relatives of those who threw themselves foaming at the mouth in righteous anger at Pirogov, who removed the kissing cross to which thousands of people from Moscow were kissed during the epidemic.
      After reading their comments, I understood one thing - they simply have to work at Vector, because the virologists there are uneducated collective farmers in comparison with them. After all, it's scary to think, but the Vectorists don't even pray every morning, facing the WHO headquarters, but stirring the bottles with bast shoes, breathing on the test tubes with fumes from moonshine and turnips, they try to create something with their meager mind! DIKARI - in one word! There is no way to ask advice from the great WHO, who slept through the epidemic, and then rushed from side to side with recommendations, or from local all-fledged people.
      I will say more: just yesterday they offered (!!) those wishing to sign up for vaccination against covid. About 45% of our employees agreed to go through it in the first wave.
      Some commentators hide a covid, others are credited with it, and still others either have a biologist or have no covid at all. And here I am listening to my employee, who was ill and who was simply dragged out of the other world by the Kommunalka doctors, and I understand that with such "friends" we are not far from that vicious, wild mass, which a century and a half ago wanted to almost quarter Pirogov.
      And yet - thank you so much for your work, which saves our lives in such a difficult situation, and thanks to the specialists of "Vector", who once again showed the whole world that Russia is not depleted of minds.
      And in general, I am satisfied with the hysteria of the all-propals! So we are doing everything right.
      1. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 4 September 2020 07: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: RUnnm
        And in general, I am satisfied with the hysteria of the all-propals! So we are doing everything right.

        Bile and gases torment them, but they attacked the vaccine! repeat
      2. sniperino
        sniperino 4 September 2020 12: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: RUnnm
        No to ask advice from the great WHO
        There is a shorter way: write immediately to B. Gates (winduz, on demand). And then with advice, a "damaged phone" can happen.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 4 September 2020 07: 58 New
      0
      Any good deed can be spoiled by disgusting propaganda. The article is a vivid example. But it's a good thing!
    3. sniperino
      sniperino 4 September 2020 12: 36 New
      +2
      ре
      Quote: Eugen Alpine
      Good article. Good deal. The fact that the creation of a vaccine is being snooped upon is quite logical and expected.
      VO in this regard is like Wasserman's reaction: only a positive result indicates a problem.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 4 September 2020 05: 21 New
    +8
    Your pretentious nonsense, mister author, is disgusting to read, especially in the part of the epilogue.
    You somehow cheerfully announced to us the successes of the past, the achievements of Russian and Soviet epidemiologists. But we passed through the problem (COVID-19) in passing.
    You are probably not aware that in the regions (ALL OVERALL !!!) they overestimate (ARTIFICIAL !!!) the rates of coronavirus disease in order to receive federal subsidies ... Did you know? I am reporting directly to you. You must be entering the "royal apartments".
    Have you heard that re-infection with coronavirus takes place?
    But here you are describing a vaccine whose results are practically unknown. You are telling us about a small number of side effects. Are you aware that:
    Side effects of drugs by location can be systemic and local, by occurrence - indirect and direct.
    By severity:
    - Lungs. In this case, complete withdrawal of the drug or special therapy is not required. The positive effect is achieved by reducing the dosage of the drug.
    - Medium severity. Treatment is carried out and the patient is selected for another drug.
    - Heavy. There is a threat to the patient's life.
    - Leading to death.

    But, having shown remarkable agility, you immediately summarize:
    Perhaps we should also think about Catherine the Great and the future Emperor Paul. About Emperor Alexander the Peacemaker. Finally, about President Putin. Someone has to be the first again. So that on the medal, which, perhaps, will appear in our country, there were the same words as on Catherine's: "I set an example with myself."

    How disgustingly predictable:

    Especially, against the background of the death of medical workers, infected and died as a result of infection ...
    But, is the medal more important for you? Or the words on its reverse? Or you can be trusted, because:
    I hope it doesn't come to that, but still ...

    Oh, really, these - "but still ..."
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 September 2020 05: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      But, having shown remarkable agility, you immediately summarize:

      the author pushed norms -> author -> author ... norms.
    2. Far B
      Far B 4 September 2020 06: 05 New
      +2
      You probably are not aware that in the regions (ALL OVERALL !!!) they overestimate (ARTIFICIAL !!!) the rates of coronavirus disease in order to receive federal subsidies ... Didn't you know? I am reporting to you directly.
      My sister works in a COVID-infectious disease, yeah ... Three died. 68-year-old grandmother - awesome high sugar, but, of course, the insidious coronavirus is to blame; Grandfather, 78 years old - no, not from old age, if not for the coronavirus, he would have trampled the earth for fifty years and spoiled the young man; bum 76 (76, KARL !!!) years old - he asked to be released, to the pampas, where the sewer pipes were making noise, etc. They did not let go - and he completely surrendered to the coronavirus.
      No, I do not argue - there is some kind of coronary infection. But its danger is incredibly high. For some reason, protest rallies in Khabarovsk did not cause an explosion of infections, on the contrary, there is a constant decline: the peak (131 infected) fell on July 25, the day before yesterday - 49 cases of infection.
      I suspect that someone simply benefited from this corona-hysteria. The question is - to whom? and for what purpose? The year 2020 is not over yet ...
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 4 September 2020 12: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Dalny V
        Grandpa, 78 years old - not, not from old age


        They don't die of old age. Die of disease.
      2. zwlad
        zwlad 4 September 2020 21: 15 New
        +1
        And at our factory, a few people died. One was 30 years old.
    3. BAI
      BAI 4 September 2020 09: 37 New
      +4
      regions (ALL OVERALL !!!) overestimate (ARTIFICIAL !!!) rates of coronavirus disease in order to receive federal subsidies ... Didn't know? I am reporting to you directly.

      And I am reporting directly to you - they underestimate. The entire hospital is crammed with covid patients, all diagnosed with pneumonia with suspected covid. This is at best, at worst, just pneumonia. Security measures - as with covid. But doctors do not need to pay.
      Moreover, the king said that the virus was almost defeated. Those. who did not win - does not know how to work, with all that it implies.
    4. sniperino
      sniperino 4 September 2020 13: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      You probably are not aware that in the regions (ALL OVERALL !!!) they overestimate (ARTIFICIAL !!!) the rates of coronavirus disease in order to receive federal subsidies ... Didn't you know? I am reporting to you directly.
      Directly? Draws on sincere ...
    5. zwlad
      zwlad 4 September 2020 21: 10 New
      +1
      I do not know how they overstate in your regions. And in ours, all hospitals are crammed with patients with covid. Except for one republican.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 4 September 2020 05: 41 New
    0
    Even so, I am leaning towards the version of a very uncooked combat virus or an artificially modified strain. Plus the passion of the amers to the pussies and their statements about the braking of China at any cost, because with the Japanese they once stepped on this rake and the Yapas knocked out 30% of the markets from them. And what communism is capable of is well known. Envy is a very dangerous thing. As for the vaccine, here we would sell the vaccine and not give it as usual with the slogans of Leopold's cat and other universal nonsense, I have no doubt that if the Americans made their own, they would sell it. And God himself ordered us to support the collapsed economy with this.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 4 September 2020 05: 56 New
      +5
      Conspiracy theory, I'm wondering what you think of who made the Spanish flu strain, America or Spain itself?
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 4 September 2020 07: 07 New
        0
        And then, in general, did they know anything about controlled synthesis of biomaterial? Your reproach is extremely stupid.
    2. WIKI
      WIKI 4 September 2020 08: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: evgen1221
      I have no doubt that if the Americans made their own, they would sell it.

      "The third, final stage of trials of the coronavirus vaccine of the American biotechnology company Moderna began in the United States on July 27. The third stage of post-registration trials of the coronavirus vaccine at the Gamaleya Center will begin next week. On September 3, Moscow clinics will receive the drug."
      Quote: evgen1221
      For the vaccine, here we would sell the vaccine

      Russia on Friday, July 17, announced an agreement with AstraZeneca for the production of the Covid-19 vaccine developed by the pharmaceutical giant. “AstraZeneca already has an agreement with RDIF to fully localize and manufacture Oxford vaccine in Russia,” Dmitriev said. while we are purchasing.
      1. BAI
        BAI 4 September 2020 09: 38 New
        +2
        Russia will not sell the vaccine, they said they would sell technology to be done locally.
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 4 September 2020 14: 21 New
          +1
          "The head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund Kirill Dmitriev said that they have entered into an agreement with Indian companies to produce more than 300 million doses per year. Dmitriev also said that Russia has received a request for more than a billion doses of coronavirus vaccine from different countries. RDIF has shown a large global interest in the vaccine and plans to conduct phase 3 clinical trials in various countries, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Brazil, India and the Philippines. "The technology will be bought so far only for the production of the required number of doses for further trials.
  • sergo
    sergo 4 September 2020 06: 09 New
    +9
    The development of a vaccine is Putin's PR for cattle. How can you believe a person that his daughter was vaccinated if he has been lying for 20 years !? Did the author vaccinate Putin's daughter himself or was he present? Even if there was, was there a vaccine in the syringe, or maybe vitamins?
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 4 September 2020 09: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: sergo
      Did the author vaccinate Putin's daughter himself or was he present? Even if there was, was there a vaccine in the syringe, or maybe vitamins?

      This logic ... Is the Earth flat or round? And then suddenly everyone lies and photoshop?
      Quote: sergo
      The development of a vaccine is Putin's PR for cattle.

      Well, yes, well, yes ... you, as a true intellectual, should know that surnames in Russian are written with a capital letter ...
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 4 September 2020 21: 50 New
      0
      Quote: sergo
      Vaccine development is Putin's PR for cattle
      For cattle - PR, for sane - a good tip.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 4 September 2020 06: 32 New
    +1
    even I poorly understood the author, well, except that he is a complete layman in medicine ... and he writes about Western achievements secretly or explicitly brought to Russia in the past.
  • thinker
    thinker 4 September 2020 06: 49 New
    +2
    Today the Russians have sniffed the West again with their coronavirus vaccine.

    At present, we must look back to the East. The price of the vaccine in China is interesting -
    The Chinese pharmaceutical corporation Sinopharm ("Sinopharm") will launch its inactivated coronavirus vaccine in December this year. According to the chairman of the board, secretary of the party committee of the company Liu Jingzhen, the drug will cost about $ 144.
    https://life.ru/p/1340565
    Well, about vaccination -
    Such data were given on Saturday by the head of the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM) Valery Fedorov at the forum "Territory of Meanings". "The new Russian vaccine" Sputnik V ". Will we be vaccinated or not? 42% say:" Yes, most likely, "and 52%: "No, we will not be vaccinated", - he said.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 4 September 2020 06: 51 New
    -3
    Ah, "These wild Russian empresses ...", (solely for the sake of historical justice):

    Catherine I - Marta Samuilovna Skavronskaya
    Catherine II - Sofia Augusta Frederica of Anhalt-Zerbst
    Maria Feodorovna (wife of Paul I) - Sophia Maria Dorothea Augusta Louise of Württemberg
    Elizaveta Alekseevna - Louise Maria Augusta of Baden
    Alexandra Feodorovna (wife of Nicholas I) - Frederica Louise Charlotte Wilhelmina of Prussia
    Maria Alexandrovna - Maximiliana Wilhelmina Augusta Sofia Maria of Hesse and Rhine
    Maria Feodorovna (wife of Alexander III) - Maria-Sophia-Frederica-Dagmara Danish
    Alexandra Fedorovna (wife of Nicholas II) - Alice Victoria Elena Louise Beatrice of Hesse-Darmstadt

    Ah, these "Russians who wiped their nose to the West with their coronavirus vaccine" (solely for the record of fact):
    Royak, Rodendorf, Rappoport and Zuckerman, under the guidance of Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Gunzburg.
    lol hi
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 4 September 2020 07: 06 New
      +4
      Guess which of the people listed above belongs to the quote: "" I am German by birth and Russian in soul! "?
      And then, I see, you are still a lover of eugenics.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 4 September 2020 07: 26 New
        -1
        Quote: RUnnm
        Guess which of the people listed above belongs to the quote: "" I am German by birth and Russian in soul! "?
        And then, I see, you are still a lover of eugenics.

        Look in the wrong direction. And eugenics is no sideways here.

        On the second part of my post, we have no disagreements with you?
        Have you noticed Russian souls in an hour? lol
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 4 September 2020 07: 36 New
          +6
          No, you did not understand it. I could answer you by asking you to list the names of those who invented and used chemical weapons, who "scientifically proved" that some nationalities somewhat interfere with life for enlightened people, who invented weapons and decided to use them in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but I think there is no point in this, because a person does not understand that measuring the purity of blood, believing that some are smarter from this, others are more stupid, in the 21st century - this is the Middle Ages. Do you want to tell me that Russia has not brought anything into medicine? Neither a three-tier healthcare system, which no one has even been able to duplicate, nor military field surgery, nor the use of anesthesia in the field, and so on, and so on ....?! Well, don't try, because your medieval ideas about good and bad nations are not interesting to me at all.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 4 September 2020 07: 43 New
            0
            Quote: RUnnm
            ! So don't try

            And you, still try to catch sarcasm in my posts. Maybe then there will be no need for this kind of fiery rebuffs. hi
            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 4 September 2020 07: 54 New
              +3
              Got it. I apologize, after the stream of other comments in the thread, at first I did not catch your sarcasm. I apologize. hi
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 4 September 2020 07: 57 New
                -2
                Everything's Alright. Let's go. drinks hi
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 4 September 2020 13: 31 New
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Russian souls were not noticed, for an hour
          Do you believe in the soul? For those who remained in the era of ancestral consciousness, there is no difference between soul and blood. Russians don't care much about the blood of Pushkin, Yekaterina or Putin; this is your headache.
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    2. BAI
      BAI 4 September 2020 09: 41 New
      -1
      Russian empresses

      I totally agree. I have already here raised the question of the "Russianness" of Nicholas 2.
    3. zwlad
      zwlad 4 September 2020 21: 22 New
      0
      This is yes. This is you to the point.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 4 September 2020 06: 55 New
    +6
    Something irreparable has passed in the world. Previously, doctors and scientists dictated conditions. Now politicians and corporations. It doesn't matter where the best comes from. From the West or from the East. The main thing is that people are healthy. This applies not only to vaccines, but also to drugs. helped Japan. The United States helped us in the treatment of tuberculosis. All the best should work for the people. Doctors must have their say. Not officials.
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    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 4 September 2020 07: 13 New
      +5
      RUnnm (nnm) Today, 06:57

      the only sensible comment of all. The rest are the same faces in their repertoire, standing with their spoon of shit and "niveryu" posters
  • misti1973
    misti1973 4 September 2020 07: 03 New
    -2
    But in the enlightened West, vaccines are tested as expected (however, not only vaccines). And wherever you look, we have only show-off! We can think of it, but we cannot start production :) And instead of a well-established production, established lies! From the very first lines, it became clear that populist clichés were coming! I'm already tired of reading such "pearls." -Putin is with them :)
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 4 September 2020 07: 06 New
    -1
    and in this article they are trying to introduce Putin into the "glorious" family of the Romanovs, so to speak, the continuer of traditions, a pitiful Napoleon
  • Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 4 September 2020 07: 28 New
    -1
    A vaccine against coronavirus (COVID-19) has been created in Russia. A patent for a Russian vaccine is already being considered by 150 countries. However, WHO is in no hurry to recognize this development. Cause? The vaccine has not passed the stage of mass clinical trials. Here is what Interfax reports about the vaccine:

    And then you write:
    We are not waiting for the end of all tests. We will vaccinate people at will.

    And what will happen to the willing test subjects, are you all right?

    The vaccine must pass all tests first, so as not to kill the patient corny!
    There is no need to look for enemies where there are none.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 September 2020 07: 44 New
    +3
    Quote: ROSS 42
    You, for sure, do not know that in the regions (EVERYWHERE !!!)

    Question WHY ???
    If, in order to compensate for the underfunding of many previous years, what would be organized, to provide normal services to the population at an acceptable level !!! God bless them ... did we immediately decide that the main doctors of the regions want to buy new yachts for themselves, build villas?
    1. mark2
      mark2 4 September 2020 11: 47 New
      +5
      we immediately decided that the chief doctors of the regions want to buy new yachts for themselves, build villas

      We are not, and who writes - yes. Stop the thief the thief himself yells. Such people even have a logic built in such a way that everything that happens around them is seen only from the perspective of the corruption component, in which they do not take part. And this makes them especially angry.
      All of them with great pleasure would integrate into all these "steals", but do not have the slightest opportunity.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 12: 02 New
        +6
        Quote: mark2
        We are not, and who writes - yes.

        We have built a new infectious disease center !!! instead of the old ... and the old one, I hated and there was a reason for that.
        In hospitals, something appeared that was not there when it was born! Of course, not everything was fixed, but something really got better.
  • BAI
    BAI 4 September 2020 09: 29 New
    +2
    at least one disease that we, the Soviets, conquered.

    Why is it difficult to mention that typhus, plague, cholera, anthrax were eliminated in the USSR?
  • AleBors
    AleBors 4 September 2020 09: 35 New
    -3
    Too many letters. Was the author paid to advertise? Let's be honest: it is difficult to call what our virologists have done so far as a vaccine. And to apply it on people, to put it mildly, is premature. There are rules by which vaccines must be tested before they are widely used.
    https://new-science.ru/skolko-vremeni-nuzhno-chtoby-razrabotat-novuju-vakcinu/
    And to be honest: how deadly is coronavirus? All the frenzies around him are very similar to a staged performance, with specific goals. I myself will not be vaccinated, my family will not and I do not advise anyone.
    In the end, there is a Constitution, some kind of no ... And there in black and white:
    Article 21 "No one can be subjected to medical, scientific or other experiments without voluntary consent."
    Article 51, paragraph 3 “Human and civil rights and freedoms may be limited by federal law only to the extent necessary in order to protect the foundations of the constitutional order, morality, health, rights and legitimate interests of others, to ensure the country's defense and security state. "
    No law, no vaccination ... Something like that ..
    1. mark2
      mark2 4 September 2020 11: 53 New
      +1
      And to apply it on people, to put it mildly, is premature. There are rules according to which vaccines must be tested before they are widely used.

      And they will be tested in public, as I understand it. No contradictions?
      And there in black and white:

      So no one forcibly vaccinates anyone. You may not need to be vaccinated. While this is a voluntary matter. And as they will oblige everyone, so will the law be for you. It won't rust behind it. And yes ... the high incidence of seasonal illness fits well with the article 51 safety wording. Each patient drops out of economic benefit, the state spends resources on his treatment. In general, some losses.
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 8 September 2020 09: 10 New
        0
        So I won't. I wish you health and confidence.
    2. zwlad
      zwlad 4 September 2020 21: 36 New
      +1
      How dangerous is it?
      How to say.
      My brother's whole family has been ill. Father-in-law with mother-in-law with bilateral pneumonia. He himself has bronchitis, his wife is a little easier. Children are like ordinary ARVI.
      An employee in my department. Recently, the university finished a month on sick leave. I was very sick.
      Several people died at the plant.
      Think about whether covid is dangerous or not.
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 8 September 2020 09: 11 New
        0
        I have over 2000 employees. Asymptomatic (according to idiotic tests) 5 people were ill. Think about who is deceiving whom.
        1. zwlad
          zwlad 8 September 2020 09: 36 New
          -1
          And at our plant, out of 2,5, about a hundred were ill. With symptoms. Many have bilateral pneumonia.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 4 September 2020 10: 07 New
    -2
    About nothing. If only to crumple abroad.

    WHO shouldn't be recognized until all the tests have passed. At least quickly.
    If you want, inject yourself. The Chinese inject themselves with something, the Japanese, the French, the Germans - they passed it on. But at your own risk.

    This is in the southern republics registration of medicines - 2-3 months, if there is money. And in Russia - up to 3 years ...
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 4 September 2020 11: 38 New
    -1
    For a thousand years, the Russians, or rather the Russian state, have been destroying the ingenious plans of Europe, and later the United States.


    You won’t praise yourself ...

    The creators of the vaccine claim that there are not many side effects and contraindications.


    The side effects need to be multiplied by millions, potentially hundreds of millions.

    Any vaccine during use is overgrown with many additional, previously unknown contraindications.


    Generally, there are tests to clarify contraindications, the full cycle of which "Sputnik 5" did not pass. By the way, the effectiveness of the vaccine is also found out only in the full cycle of tests.
  • mark2
    mark2 4 September 2020 12: 25 New
    0
    BAI and ROSS42 you need to be brought together to agree to overestimate or underestimate)))
    As it is in the style of the Russian opposition. They cannot agree on anything, views on the same problems are opposite, ideas are zero, they do not offer solutions to problems. At the same time, the state forever owes them and it is Putin and his comrades who are to blame for everything.
    1. BAI
      BAI 4 September 2020 13: 34 New
      0
      I am not a Putinist. Right. But he was never a liberal either. What is the opposition?
    2. CBR600
      CBR600 7 September 2020 12: 19 New
      0
      really ... ".... the opposition must be strong"
      Only in some way all this opposition is discredited. Especially nationally oriented.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 4 September 2020 23: 16 New
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    The creators of the vaccine claim that there are not many side effects and contraindications
    Read the SIDE EFFECTS and with CARE decide for yourself whether it is little or not.



  • Incompetent
    Incompetent 7 September 2020 07: 26 New
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    Staver, drunk, wrote nonsense, what the hell are "windows to Europe", what Catherine the Great, and "again the Russians are ahead." fool
    We just need to register the vaccine before starting the 3rd stage of testing, which is now underway! Here is a cool article for the educational program
    https://naked-science.ru/article/medicine/rossijskaya-vaktsina-ot-koronavirusa-opasna-dlya-vvedeniya-ili-eshhe-odna-antivaktsinatorskaya-isteriya
    And how many such amateurish articles even on such a narrowly focused military resource as VO and what then can we know for sure?
  • EVDmitri
    EVDmitri 11 September 2020 19: 58 New
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    For half a thousand years, the Russian mentality, incomprehensible to the local minds of the Eurogeans, and the vitality of Russia unattainable for them, drive the West crazy. The West is unnerved by the realization that its tradition of leading a pleasant life at the expense of robbing the rest of the world is morally losing to the Russian tradition of helping backward peoples who joined the empire. The Baltic sprats sat like mice under a broom, no one suspected them. The USSR, at its own expense, built factories, power plants, universities, and so on and so forth among their mossy farmsteads, made them equal to civilized Europeans. And now they, choking with hatred, demand compensation from us for this. To hate someone who is more decent than you is so European, didn’t it?
    Geopolitics was not born yesterday and will not die tomorrow. The moral torment of the West, of course, is not the reason for the desire to rip apart the empire into specific republics, but they greatly contribute to the setting of a geopolitical goal and its implementation in the minds of the European community. But this is so, by the way, to the question of the subconscious, like ...
    What has Europe and the West as a whole richer in their entire history? Colonial plunder since the Crusades. Now robbery has not disappeared anywhere, it just acquired other forms - economic, in particular credit.
    Russia in this sense is not just a tasty morsel. This is such a tidbit that you cannot gobble up without first chopping it into small pieces. And she doesn’t like to be swung at her with an ax. Or with a sword. Or they try to stab them around the corner.
  • Nikolay Migashkin
    Nikolay Migashkin 28 September 2020 05: 11 New
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    In their quest to impose vaccinations, pluralists do not tolerate opposition. Opponents of the use of an unfinished vaccine are offered to prosecute, they do not stop in organizing outright insults through their plenipotentiaries and causing material damage to persons who demand a scientific understanding of immunity and vaccines. Here is just one example, from repeated actions of persecution, manifestations of aggression on the part of the Administrator of resource 74. ru on the forums Health, Religion and Philosophy. Here is my answer

    Odmin

    You that, pluralistic scum, itching to just pour slop over everything? Half an hour ago, someone threw a piece of brick out the window. The facade of the house is viewed from three video cameras. The man is identified. At the end of May he threatened, "You will die." Death was accepted by a neighbor's dog by eating a poisoned thrown bone. The neighbors will now look at the pictures. Wait for the interrogators.

    Read more Manual Nikolay Gasha "Intellectual capital, immunity and health. 290 pp.

    intellektualnyj-kapital-zdorovje.docx