India explains why the Chinese Air Force gives preference to the Russian Su-30 when moving to Ladakh

One of the masters of Indian parliamentarism, Subramanian Swami, spoke quite harshly about the build-up of the Chinese military presence in the Indian border area in the Ladakh region. According to S. Swami, referring to the data of the Indian military intelligence, China has transferred "a large number" of Russian-made Su fighters to the border region. What specific modifications of the aircraft are being discussed, Subramanian Swami does not report.

Indian Parliament Steering Group Member:

The movement by Chinese troops of a large number of Russian-made Sukhoi aircraft to the border area with India should be taken as a signal that we too should be ready for retaliatory actions.

According to other sources in India, the Chinese Air Force deployed one fifth-generation J-20 fighter and several Su-30 fighters (modification of the Su-30MK2) to one of the high-altitude airfields in the Ladakh region.

At the same time in India they say that the Chinese military prefers to use Russian-made aircraft - the same Su-30, since "they have experience of not quite successful patrolling with J-20 fighters near Indian borders."

In India:

If everything was in order with the J-20, China, without hesitation, would have thrown them.

Earlier in the Indian media, citing military sources, it was announced that the Indian Air Force Su-30MKI fighter radars had detected a Chinese "stealth" aircraft of the new generation J-20. That is why, according to Indian experts, China decided to give preference to the Su aircraft at the high-altitude airfield.

Comments

[Voltsky]

Earlier in the Indian media, citing military sources, it was announced that the Indian Air Force Su-30MKI fighter radars had detected a Chinese "stealth" aircraft of the new generation J-20.

station "irbis" - this is not khuhry muhry for you;)

[Borik]

In the event of a conflict, there will be SU-30s on both sides, and the skill of the pilots will decide everything.

[Voltsky]

Quote: Borik

In the event of a conflict, there will be SU-30s on both sides, and the skill of the pilots will decide everything.

Check out the joke - it's funny :)
we have now the beginning of the 20th century, when it is skill that decides, and not the competition of "state machines" which have a bunch of stations, radars, reconnaissance and others.

[hrych]

The Irbis is on the Su-35, and the Bars radar is on the Su-30

[Voltsky]

Yes, sorry there is a leopard, but it seems that the Indians asked for an improved brls and it seemed like they went to a meeting, but that there I xs, and everywhere there is no information about it.

[donavi49]

In Chinese, there is a penny with a ground work channel and a partial transfer to new electronics. +/- as on the Su-27SM without digits.

Here are the Barsiki Indians.

Also, the Chinese have aircraft without OVT and are generally primitive, like all Komsomol ones (for example, the VKS uses them as Su-27UB for new types of aircraft).
The Indians have advanced aircraft from Irkut, there are OVT and foreign avionics (France and Israel).

[Voltsky]

dya dya :) You are a bit knowledgeable, but I just remembered that I read that once; I shared my knowledge, if you can cover anything from the holy fools :).

ps they have not grown together with someone, in my opinion Rosoboronexport did not allow the Jews to do something, but this is not certain.

[silver_roman]

Su-30mk2 is very different from su-30mk for the worse. The Indians have not only our stuffing there, but also French, like the rocket in-in, there are also French ones

[Hexenmeister]

station "irbis"

And where does the "Irbis" ??? The Su-30MKI has the Bars, and if the Irbis does appear in that area, then the Chinese Su-35s!

[Voltsky]

irbis and leopards - tick / tok :) if you are familiar with this term .... But yes, I admit I made a reservation; it happens:)

[Cyril G ...]

Maybe the Indians are confused. And they transferred just the Su-35 and it was with the Irbis.
But on the Chinese Su-30 was originally N-001VP, I don’t know whether they were modernized for something Chinese from the AFAR type ...

[URAL72]

What is Irbis? On the Su-30MKI radar Bars. Irbis on the Su-30 power engineering does not pull. It is necessary to change the engine and generator. This has already been discussed, and this option is in the modernization plans.

[Voltsky]

Quote: URAL72

Need to change engine

?!

[silver_roman]

The entire aircraft is powered by the engine. Al-31f does not give enough for the Irbis radar. But the al-41f (I don't remember the engine indexes) is already just.

[RUnnm]

Dear friends, tell me, please, what was the "... experience of not quite successful patrolling with J-20 fighters near the Indian borders", otherwise, apparently, I missed something?

[Voltsky]

it depends on what enema to look through.

[RUnnm]

Through the Indian. Something the Chinese have enema as it is not very good ...)))

[Voltsky]

Quote: RUnnm

Through the Indian.

we will shower with hats :)

[NIKN]

Quote: RUnnm

..the experience of not quite successful patrolling with J-20 fighters near the Indian borders ", but then, apparently, I missed something?

There it seems that they (the Indians) were able to detect him not so long ago with their own means and, as it were, put his invisibility under a big question .. Well, this is according to India ... and what is the point of throwing an invisible-visible plane. I get it that way.

[Russ]

So contrast them with Rafale ... business ...
And you will have "happiness" ...

[nks]

So already.
https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/indian-air-force-readying-rafales-for-ladakh-deployment-carries-out-night-sorties-in-himachal-mountains-2

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Hindus - how to buy "rafali" like that, how to fight like that Drying. The Chinese - how to sell so G-20, how to fight like this Drying ... Everyone wants to live))) Glory to the Russian aviation industry !!!

[Husit]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

Hindus - how to buy "rafali" like that, how to fight like that Drying. The Chinese - how to sell so G-20, how to fight like this Drying ... Everyone wants to live))) Glory to the Russian aviation industry !!!

Speak the truth !!!! Russian weapons do not need advertising ..
Here it is an advertisement, when it smells of fried, immediately Russian weapons come into action ..
A few years ago, the Hindus also opposed the F-16 of Pakistan on the old MiGs and even shot down one .. Laughter and sin with these Chinese and Indians .. I hope the mind is not enough not to grapple with each other for the joy of the United States.

[nks]

In reality, just the opposite - how to fight, so the mirages-2000 (Rafali have just arrived) and they are deployed just in the north, and the su-30MKI bases in the southern part. Well, plus on MKI, the French MICA airborne devices integrate

https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/odisha/2020/aug/19/iaf-test-fires-air-to-air-missiles-ahead-of-rafale-integration-2185422.html

"Defense sources said anti-air multi-target MICA missile fired from Sukhoi-30 MKI for the first time successfully destroyed expendable aerial targets (EATs), demonstrating its stealth capabilities"

[APASUS]

What kind of vinaigrette has India tossed?

[Trapp1st]

What kind of vinaigrette has India tossed?

[Husit]

Quote: APASUS

What kind of vinaigrette has India tossed?

Better not to remind, otherwise the laughter will last all night ..

[Husit]

If everything was in order with the J-20, China, without hesitation, would have thrown them.

Interesting remark from the Indian military ..! Why really? And we offered our fighters to the Indians and it was not expensive .. So we waited!

[Trapp1st]

Interesting remark from the Indian military ..! Why really?

And what is the general sense of airlifting modern jet fighters so close to the border?

[Voltsky]

well, probably strike in tactical depth

[Trapp1st]

well, probably strike in tactical depth

Then there are even more questions. The first is a strange desire to turn the border conflict into a regional one. The second opportunity to lose 3-4 fighters, and get a full response in their tactical and not only depth.

[Voltsky]

Quote: Trapp1st

Then there are even more questions. The first is a strange desire to turn the border conflict into a regional one.

what ?!

Quote: Trapp1st

The second opportunity to lose 3-4 fighters, and get a full response in their tactical and not only depth.

as ?!

[Husit]

Quote: Trapp1st

Interesting remark from the Indian military ..! Why really?

And what is the general sense of airlifting modern jet fighters so close to the border?

China Sushki throws, but not their "PROSPEROUSED" .. That is the question?
They scare and show off .. If the dismantling begins with them, then Russia will be against and will find leverage to calm down the fighters ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Husit

then Russia will be against it and will find leverage to calm down the fighters ...

Same for, but common sense against. Where are the "levers" and where are the "proposals for assistance"

[Zaurbek]

In this case, China also has Su35S .....

[Husit]

Quote: Zaurbek

In this case, China also has Su35S .....

Something you often praise China here .. Alarms! Generally a strange general on the Russian site

[yfast]

One J-20 will smash the columns of the Indian SU-30s, the Chinese SU-30s will hold the candles and cheer them up.

[Husit]

Quote: yfast

One J-20 will smash the columns of the Indian SU-30s, the Chinese SU-30s will hold the candles and cheer them up.

Well, you have a fantasy .. Laugh!

[strelokmira]

How to define a good plane, the more couch "experts" spit on it, the better it is ...
They spit on all foreign fifth-generation fighters, so we draw conclusions

[nobody111body]

Yes, Messrs. Jews tried Lukashenko's teeth, and nothing came of it; they tried to hang Assad again with a bummer; Well, now we are trying to inflate articles about a certain "conflict" between India and China; Well, for such a handful of American Jews, money is not a pity; although there are a lot of fools, after all, once both "the voice of america" ​​and "free Europe" they drove the same bullshit about the USSR and that everyone fell for it

[Carib]

Quote: Zaurbek

In this case, China also has Su35S .....

Yes, they are not visible anywhere. Most likely, the disassembled ones are standing, being studied, copied ...
They didn't buy to scare the Indians on the border and bear losses from the MiG-21 ...;)

[Hexenmeister]

incur losses from the MiG-21 ..

One J-20 will disperse all the Indians, the other Mig-21 will knock all the Chinese ... So think about who to believe?

[Butchcassidy]

I think that the matter is in specific high-altitude conditions. Our military equipment is made with serious reserves of strength and endurance.

[Magmax]

They could be right. Chinese are proud of J 20 if it was that good they would have used it more.