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India explains why the Chinese Air Force gives preference to the Russian Su-30 when moving to Ladakh

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One of the masters of Indian parliamentarism, Subramanian Swami, spoke quite harshly about the build-up of the Chinese military presence in the Indian border area in the Ladakh region. According to S. Swami, referring to the data of the Indian military intelligence, China has transferred "a large number" of Russian-made Su fighters to the border region. What specific modifications of the aircraft are being discussed, Subramanian Swami does not report.


Indian Parliament Steering Group Member:

The movement by Chinese troops of a large number of Russian-made Sukhoi aircraft to the border area with India should be taken as a signal that we too should be ready for retaliatory actions.

According to other sources in India, the Chinese Air Force deployed one fifth-generation J-20 fighter and several Su-30 fighters (modification of the Su-30MK2) to one of the high-altitude airfields in the Ladakh region.

At the same time in India they say that the Chinese military prefers to use Russian-made aircraft - the same Su-30, since "they have experience of not quite successful patrolling with J-20 fighters near Indian borders."

In India:

If everything was in order with the J-20, China, without hesitation, would have thrown them.

Earlier in the Indian media, citing military sources, it was announced that the Indian Air Force Su-30MKI fighter radars had detected a Chinese "stealth" aircraft of the new generation J-20. That is why, according to Indian experts, China decided to give preference to the Su aircraft at the high-altitude airfield.
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  1. Voltsky
    Voltsky 3 September 2020 16: 44
    +8
    Earlier in the Indian media, citing military sources, it was announced that the Indian Air Force Su-30MKI fighter radars had detected a Chinese "stealth" aircraft of the new generation J-20.

    station "irbis" - this is not khuhry muhry for you;)
    1. Borik
      Borik 3 September 2020 16: 53
      11
      In the event of a conflict, there will be SU-30s on both sides, and the skill of the pilots will decide everything.
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 3 September 2020 16: 53
        -14 qualifying.
        Quote: Borik
        In the event of a conflict, there will be SU-30s on both sides, and the skill of the pilots will decide everything.

        Check out the joke - it's funny :)
        we have now the beginning of the 20th century, when it is skill that decides, and not the competition of "state machines" which have a bunch of stations, radars, reconnaissance and others.
        1. hrych
          hrych 3 September 2020 16: 59
          18
          The Irbis is on the Su-35, and the Bars radar is on the Su-30
          1. Voltsky
            Voltsky 3 September 2020 17: 03
            0
            Yes, sorry there is a leopard, but it seems that the Indians asked for an improved brls and it seemed like they went to a meeting, but that there I xs, and everywhere there is no information about it.
          2. donavi49
            donavi49 3 September 2020 18: 04
            +3
            In Chinese, there is a penny with a ground work channel and a partial transfer to new electronics. +/- as on the Su-27SM without digits.

            Here are the Barsiki Indians.

            Also, the Chinese have aircraft without OVT and are generally primitive, like all Komsomol ones (for example, the VKS uses them as Su-27UB for new types of aircraft).
            The Indians have advanced aircraft from Irkut, there are OVT and foreign avionics (France and Israel).
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 3 September 2020 19: 01
              -2
              dya dya :) You are a bit knowledgeable, but I just remembered that I read that once; I shared my knowledge, if you can cover anything from the holy fools :).

              ps they have not grown together with someone, in my opinion Rosoboronexport did not allow the Jews to do something, but this is not certain.
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 4 September 2020 14: 35
        0
        Su-30mk2 is very different from su-30mk for the worse. The Indians have not only our stuffing there, but also French, like the rocket in-in, there are also French ones
    2. Hexenmeister
      Hexenmeister 3 September 2020 16: 56
      +2
      station "irbis"
      And where does the "Irbis" ??? The Su-30MKI has the Bars, and if the Irbis does appear in that area, then the Chinese Su-35s!
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 3 September 2020 17: 13
        -3
        irbis and leopards - tick / tok :) if you are familiar with this term .... But yes, I admit I made a reservation; it happens:)
    3. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 3 September 2020 17: 59
      +1
      Maybe the Indians are confused. And they transferred just the Su-35 and it was with the Irbis.
      But on the Chinese Su-30 was originally N-001VP, I don’t know whether they were modernized for something Chinese from the AFAR type ...
    4. URAL72
      URAL72 3 September 2020 18: 09
      +2
      What is Irbis? On the Su-30MKI radar Bars. Irbis on the Su-30 power engineering does not pull. It is necessary to change the engine and generator. This has already been discussed, and this option is in the modernization plans.
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 3 September 2020 19: 05
        +2
        Quote: URAL72
        Need to change engine

        ?!
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 6 September 2020 10: 06
          +1
          The entire aircraft is powered by the engine. Al-31f does not give enough for the Irbis radar. But the al-41f (I don't remember the engine indexes) is already just.
  2. RUnnm
    RUnnm 3 September 2020 16: 46
    +3
    Dear friends, tell me, please, what was the "... experience of not quite successful patrolling with J-20 fighters near the Indian borders", otherwise, apparently, I missed something?
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 3 September 2020 16: 49
      -2
      it depends on what enema to look through.
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 3 September 2020 17: 03
        +3
        Through the Indian. Something the Chinese have enema as it is not very good ...)))
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 3 September 2020 17: 06
          -4
          Quote: RUnnm
          Through the Indian.

          we will shower with hats :)
    2. NIKN
      NIKN 3 September 2020 18: 04
      +3
      Quote: RUnnm
      ..the experience of not quite successful patrolling with J-20 fighters near the Indian borders ", but then, apparently, I missed something?

      There it seems that they (the Indians) were able to detect him not so long ago with their own means and, as it were, put his invisibility under a big question .. Well, this is according to India ... and what is the point of throwing an invisible-visible plane. smile I get it that way. winked
  3. Russ
    Russ 3 September 2020 16: 56
    +6
    So contrast them with Rafale ... business ... wink
    And you will have "happiness" ...
    1. nks
      nks 4 September 2020 14: 01
      0
      So already.
      https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/indian-air-force-readying-rafales-for-ladakh-deployment-carries-out-night-sorties-in-himachal-mountains-2
  4. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 3 September 2020 16: 58
    47
    Hindus - how to buy "rafali" like that, how to fight like that Drying. The Chinese - how to sell so G-20, how to fight like this Drying ... Everyone wants to live))) Glory to the Russian aviation industry !!!
    1. Husit
      Husit 3 September 2020 17: 18
      +6
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      Hindus - how to buy "rafali" like that, how to fight like that Drying. The Chinese - how to sell so G-20, how to fight like this Drying ... Everyone wants to live))) Glory to the Russian aviation industry !!!

      Speak the truth !!!! Russian weapons do not need advertising .. hi
      Here it is an advertisement, when it smells of fried, immediately Russian weapons come into action ..
      A few years ago, the Hindus also opposed the F-16 of Pakistan on the old MiGs and even shot down one .. Laughter and sin with these Chinese and Indians .. I hope the mind is not enough not to grapple with each other for the joy of the United States.
    2. nks
      nks 4 September 2020 14: 04
      0
      In reality, just the opposite - how to fight, so the mirages-2000 (Rafali have just arrived) and they are deployed just in the north, and the su-30MKI bases in the southern part. Well, plus on MKI, the French MICA airborne devices integrate

      https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/odisha/2020/aug/19/iaf-test-fires-air-to-air-missiles-ahead-of-rafale-integration-2185422.html

      "Defense sources said anti-air multi-target MICA missile fired from Sukhoi-30 MKI for the first time successfully destroyed expendable aerial targets (EATs), demonstrating its stealth capabilities"
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 3 September 2020 17: 01
    +1
    What kind of vinaigrette has India tossed?
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 3 September 2020 17: 05
      +5
      What kind of vinaigrette has India tossed?

    2. Husit
      Husit 3 September 2020 17: 20
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      What kind of vinaigrette has India tossed?

      Better not to remind, otherwise the laughter will last all night ..
  6. Husit
    Husit 3 September 2020 17: 14
    +3
    If everything was in order with the J-20, China, without hesitation, would have thrown them.

    Interesting remark from the Indian military ..! Why really? And we offered our fighters to the Indians and it was not expensive .. So we waited!
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 3 September 2020 17: 19
      -1
      Interesting remark from the Indian military ..! Why really?
      And what is the general sense of airlifting modern jet fighters so close to the border?
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 3 September 2020 17: 45
        +1
        well, probably strike in tactical depth
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 3 September 2020 17: 52
          0
          well, probably strike in tactical depth
          Then there are even more questions. The first is a strange desire to turn the border conflict into a regional one. The second opportunity to lose 3-4 fighters, and get a full response in their tactical and not only depth.
          1. Voltsky
            Voltsky 3 September 2020 19: 08
            -1
            Quote: Trapp1st
            Then there are even more questions. The first is a strange desire to turn the border conflict into a regional one.

            what ?!
            Quote: Trapp1st
            The second opportunity to lose 3-4 fighters, and get a full response in their tactical and not only depth.

            as ?!
      2. Husit
        Husit 3 September 2020 19: 04
        -2
        Quote: Trapp1st
        Interesting remark from the Indian military ..! Why really?
        And what is the general sense of airlifting modern jet fighters so close to the border?

        China Sushki throws, but not their "PROSPEROUSED" .. That is the question?
        They scare and show off .. If the dismantling begins with them, then Russia will be against and will find leverage to calm down the fighters ...
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 4 September 2020 06: 22
          0
          Quote: Husit
          then Russia will be against it and will find leverage to calm down the fighters ...

          belay Same for, but common sense against. Where are the "levers" and where are the "proposals for assistance" request
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 September 2020 17: 58
    +1
    In this case, China also has Su35S .....
    1. Husit
      Husit 3 September 2020 19: 08
      -4
      Quote: Zaurbek
      In this case, China also has Su35S .....

      Something you often praise China here .. Alarms! Generally a strange general on the Russian site wink
  8. yfast
    yfast 3 September 2020 18: 36
    -2
    One J-20 will smash the columns of the Indian SU-30s, the Chinese SU-30s will hold the candles and cheer them up.
    1. Husit
      Husit 3 September 2020 19: 05
      +2
      Quote: yfast
      One J-20 will smash the columns of the Indian SU-30s, the Chinese SU-30s will hold the candles and cheer them up.

      laughing Well, you have a fantasy .. Laugh! good
  9. strelokmira
    strelokmira 3 September 2020 20: 50
    -5
    How to define a good plane, the more couch "experts" spit on it, the better it is ...
    They spit on all foreign fifth-generation fighters, so we draw conclusions hi
  10. nobody111body
    nobody111body 4 September 2020 05: 45
    -2
    Yes, Messrs. Jews tried Lukashenko's teeth, and nothing came of it; they tried to hang Assad again with a bummer; Well, now we are trying to inflate articles about a certain "conflict" between India and China; Well, for such a handful of American Jews, money is not a pity; although there are a lot of fools, after all, once both "the voice of america" ​​and "free Europe" they drove the same bullshit about the USSR and that everyone fell for it
  11. Carib
    Carib 4 September 2020 09: 06
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    In this case, China also has Su35S .....

    Yes, they are not visible anywhere. Most likely, the disassembled ones are standing, being studied, copied ...
    They didn't buy to scare the Indians on the border and bear losses from the MiG-21 ...;)
    1. Hexenmeister
      Hexenmeister 4 September 2020 09: 21
      0
      incur losses from the MiG-21 ..
      One J-20 will disperse all the Indians, the other Mig-21 will knock all the Chinese ... So think about who to believe? winked
  12. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 4 September 2020 13: 14
    +1
    I think that the matter is in specific high-altitude conditions. Our military equipment is made with serious reserves of strength and endurance.
  13. Magmax
    Magmax 4 September 2020 21: 44
    0
    They could be right. Chinese are proud of J 20 if it was that good they would have used it more.