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We are toothless. Where does the addictive effect come from?

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We are toothless. Where does the addictive effect come from?

Well, again. They sent Navalny to Germany, and there it was determined that they had hounded him. And in order not to bother choosing a reason, they remembered "Novichok". For Russia, this will do. Again a cry to heaven. It is unlikely that this campaign will end in zilch, but if so, the average person will have a bad opinion of Russia. As in the joke: "Spoons were found, but the sediment remained." And I wonder why they didn’t invite foreign doctors to Omsk, why they didn’t take control tests from Navalny in a foreign presence, why they didn’t take the necessary actions with his attendants, why, why ... What, the first time such a provocation?


NATO next to Russia. In 2004, the Baltic states joined NATO. Why were not economic ties with them severed as far as possible for the country back in 2000? Apparently, because it is impossible to destroy some business. Why not? Why is private interest higher than public interest? Where else is that in a major power? Would Georgia try to shoot at ours in 2008, if it knew that Russia would immediately cut off all economic ties and give it away? But it turned out the other way around, Georgia stood in a proud pose, while Russia babbled that it did not want to break ties with the aggressor. I don’t buy Georgian wines because of the statement of the Georgian on "Rustavi-2" that it is necessary to pour the waste of Georgian life into wine for Russia. And who of the authorities banned food supplies from Georgia, citing the lack of a tough reaction from the Georgian leadership? Or at least prohibitively toughened the tests of wines for ammonia? Why not teach many, neighbors first, that the response to hostility will be harsh? Why are we embarrassed to tinker with our faces on the table of our “partners” in advance, remember the shooting of sepoys by the British, and the lousy blankets for Indians from the Anglo-Saxons?

Only metallurgists have benefited from the WTO. No one needs statements that we are on a par with the Americans ... Russia lost: its authority in the eyes of Belarus and Kazakhstan fell. It turned out that for Moscow accession to the WTO is more important than relations with its neighbors, because at first Moscow announced that it would join with these countries. How did the WTO help Russia?

IOC and WADA. An abbreviated quote from FSB Major General Alexander Mikhailov: “What task will we solve by participating in the Olympics as a rootless brute, humiliated and insulted? No. We sent the IOC in 1984. And what have you lost? The position of the IOC is purely American and fits into the principle of sanctions. The ban on the flag, anthem, symbols of Russia is a political insult to the country. Our further actions: 1. Refuse to participate in the Olympiad. 2. To impose sanctions on the IOC members. 3. Stop payments to the IOC. 4. Initiate a criminal case against members of the IOC for insulting the symbols of Russia. And the last thing: it's time to live with your own mind, and not be slaves under international public organizations. "

With regard to international organizations, the quote should be attributed to many organizations. Take PACE. Why does the country need it? Officials need it, but the country does not. And why caved in, having paid for the time of absence?

A little about WADA. In light of all the infamy with WADA, deal with top sports officials. The state recognizes failures with doping and promotes those responsible for it in positions and awards. What conclusion will others draw? Can you imagine that Stalin approves General Pavlov as the Deputy People's Commissar of Defense for the defeat of the Western Front?

Kenya was unable to pay off loans to China, and China took the port of Mombasa. That's how it should be, not forgiving debts! And the displacement of Morales in Bolivia? And the coming to power in Brazil and Argentina of US friends? Even before the 2014 coup, on the margins of VO, I was surprised at our toothless policy in Ukraine, including the lack of distribution of printed materials about Russia's achievements and what awaits Ukraine when it breaks with Russia. This was to be done by Rossotrudnichestvo as a division of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, engaged in the promotion of Russian interests, and it gave money to the Westerners of Ukraine for the Western cultural program! Yes, and ask about Rossotrudnichestvo's failures on the Internet. For Ukraine, you can only cite our and American costs. America said it spent $ 5 billion. For 30 years, Ukraine has taken from us in one way or another (including theft of energy resources, low prices, etc.) about $ 300 billion, of which about two hundred - until 2000, see the president's statements. And who got what from Ukraine?

And economic policy. In foreign trade, we have had a huge positive balance for a long time: we sell more than we buy. What do we do with income? And we spend almost half of the income where we sell it, and we call it a safety cushion. The pillow is a pillow, but it seems that for the people this pillow is only a pillowcase!

We have a negative balance in terms of currency movement: we export much more than we receive investments. So who benefits from our foreign economic policy?

Offhand, I remember foreign policy successes only in Crimea and, at first, in Syria.

Someone disagrees with the author? Argument, just don't need statements like: "You can't understand", "This is a multi-move." Connivance to a bully, criminal, aggressor has never led to the correction of the bully, criminal, aggressor. Rather, it will be different: the addictive effect will work and people around will not be surprised, but resent a normal, adequate policy. Four years ago it was still possible to show that we can snap back. In response to the closure of our offices in the United States, close their offices with us, and even impose sanctions on the supply of titanium and rocket engines until the US policy is clarified. But no, they vaguely noted "counter-productivity", and that's it. And everyone around us is accustomed to Russia's weak position. So we are reaping the benefits of toothlessness and thoughtlessness.
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  1. Leha667
    Leha667 4 September 2020 10: 10 New
    -32 qualifying.
    Are you not afraid that they will come for you?)))
    1. Vend
      Vend 4 September 2020 10: 21 New
      -59 qualifying.
      Quote: Leha667
      Are you not afraid that they will come for you?)))

      I won't come, nothing clever is written in the article. The next article is all gone.
      1. Johann Klassen
        Johann Klassen 4 September 2020 11: 55 New
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        And what do you think is not true?
        Take sports, even amateur, even professional in the USA and in the rest of the so-called free civilized world.
        Everything is supported by huge capital pumped into the so-called sports business.
        Hence the sweepstakes, and hence the doping that raises the stakes.
        And everything is done in the open.
        For example, West Germany-FRG continues to accuse East Germany-GDR, of state policy on the use of doping, calling for the annulment of all sporting achievements of East German athletes.
        However, how many West German athletes died suddenly from doping drugs is kept in the deepest secret.
        1. Polente the Wanderer
          Polente the Wanderer 4 September 2020 12: 05 New
          -3
          "However, how many West German athletes have died suddenly from doping drugs is kept in deep secrecy."
          So, how much? And who?
          If there is data, then voice it, otherwise it's just slander.
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 4 September 2020 12: 28 New
            +4
            Quote: Wanderer Polente
            If there is data, then voice it.


            To demand this is just despicable.
            1. Temples
              Temples 4 September 2020 14: 52 New
              -29 qualifying.
              Everything is gone, the plaster is removed. laughing

              Russia has become a center of power again. good

              After the humpback poured the country for pizza, our country fell into the abyss.
              Hence the problems in sports and other chukhna.

              Defensive capability restored.
              This was the first priority.

              And mind you at this very time the people were not driven into the camps.
              At this very time, the people en masse moved to foreign cars.
              Of course I would like more. laughing

              We have become a Power again. wink

              I repeat - no reprisals.

              And now is the time to improve life.
              It's complicated.
              But we can handle it.

              Well, the whiners will whine even louder.
              Strong Russia makes it difficult for everyone who writes in Latin to sleep.
              1. Fitter65
                Fitter65 6 September 2020 10: 21 New
                +1
                Quote: Temples

                Defensive capability restored.
                This was the first priority.
                And mind you at this very time the people were not driven into the camps.

                And when were the people driven into camps to improve defensibility?
                Quote: Temples
                At this very time, the people en masse moved to foreign cars.

                The reason is very simple - the issue of disposal was resolved, so they also made a profit from the sale of used cars. By the way, these cans still roam on our roads - for that simple reason - not every Russian can afford to buy a new car. Due to the availability of imported components produced in the Russian Federation, I would hesitate to call them Russian.
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        2. Vend
          Vend 4 September 2020 12: 20 New
          -19 qualifying.
          Quote: Johann Klassen
          And what do you think is not true?

          I meant it
          Quote: Johann Klassen
          Offhand, I remember foreign policy successes only in Crimea and, at first, in Syria.
          and the rest as for Russia.
        3. zenion
          zenion 9 September 2020 21: 20 New
          0
          This is not toothlessness, but a devil-may-care attitude and so will come down. Besides, if they didn’t please, they would find another hole. If you want Navalny, they have piled him up.
      2. AK1972
        AK1972 4 September 2020 12: 21 New
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        Quote: Wend
        I won't come, nothing clever is written in the article. The next article is all gone.

        The article briefly and accurately describes the toothless and defeatist policy of our powers that be. So precise that there is nothing to add, and there is no need to.
        “What task will we solve by participating in the Olympics as a rootless brute, humiliated and insulted? No. We sent the IOC in 1984. And what have you lost? The position of the IOC is purely American and fits into the principle of sanctions. The ban on the flag, anthem, symbols of Russia is a political insult to the country. Our further actions: 1. Refuse to participate in the Olympiad. 2. To impose sanctions on the IOC members. 3. Stop payments to the IOC. 4. Initiate a criminal case against members of the IOC for insulting the symbols of Russia. And the last thing: it's time to live with your own mind, and not be slaves under international public organizations. "

        I will subscribe to every word of this quote from gen. Mikhailova. It is shameful and humiliating to look at the Olympic team under the white flag, so I have not and will not watch this shame. You, as a patriot and statesman, seem to enjoy the shame of your country. So which of us is a patriot? And your endless approval of the actions, or rather the inaction of the authorities, will really lead to the fact that everything will disappear.
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 4 September 2020 13: 04 New
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          Banning the flag, anthem, symbols of Russia is a political insult to the country
          This is a rather disgusting sight, but when the Belarusian unfolded the Flag of the Russian Federation at the parade of teams at the Paralympic Games, I was proud of Belarus, the country in which I now live.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 4 September 2020 13: 28 New
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          I will subscribe to every word of this quote from gen. Mikhailova. FROM

          I agree with you
        3. Vend
          Vend 4 September 2020 14: 11 New
          -29 qualifying.
          So much defeatist policy that Russia comes out on top in many economic indicators. laughing As for the Olympics, let's figure it out.
          1. Refuse to participate in the Olympics. Well, you are not a professional athlete, you do not understand what it means to prepare for the Olympics. For example, in rhythmic gymnastics, girls are destined to get only one Olympiad in general, age plays a big role. But you want not only to get there, but also to win. And then years of training, and the whole child's life in the toilet. A very good solution.
          2. Introduce sanctions against members of the IOC. Which for example? Scare a hedgehog with bare butt laughing
          3. Stop payments to the IOC. And that this is not PACE, withdrawal from the Olympic movement was not considered at all. However, if you did this, you would have to ask back, no one would be in a hurry to call Russia back, again, such a move would send our athletes and coaches to live in other countries.
          4. Initiate a criminal case against members of the IOC for insulting the symbols of Russia. Well, this is generally a delusional pearl. What was the insult. Read article 329 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          However, you have not specified everything. There is still something left
          5. Athletes who wish to participate in the Olympiad without a flag and anthem go at their own expense. Well, this is perhaps a controversial statement.
          6. To revise the attitude to high achievement sports by removing state financing and transferring funds to children's sports. Yeah, well, the children will go in for sports, and then what? Looking for sponsors like in the west? There will be no incentive for children to go in for sports.
          7. To realize that time has shown that the sport of great achievements has nothing to do with a healthy lifestyle. This is a disabled incubator. Well then, the professional army should be banned, that's really where the darkness of the disabled. laughing Just look at Nemov, he has long finished his sports career, or look at former athletes participating in ice performances. Or Karelin. People are not only physically healthy, but they have not lost their sports skills and instill a love for sports in children.
          If these proposals are fulfilled, then the harm to Russia will be much greater. The fact that Alexander Mikhailov is an FSB general does not yet make him a competent politician. The head is needed in order to think, and not only to wear a cap laughing
          1. AK1972
            AK1972 4 September 2020 15: 47 New
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            Quote: Wend
            The fact that Alexander Mikhailov is an FSB general does not make him a competent politician yet. The head is needed in order to think, and not only to wear a cap

            That is, you consider the FSB general to be an illiterate, slow-witted, and his head is an object for wearing a headdress, and also that there is something in it? Don't go anywhere, they will come for you now.
            1. Vend
              Vend 4 September 2020 16: 01 New
              -18 qualifying.
              Quote: AK1972
              Quote: Wend
              The fact that Alexander Mikhailov is an FSB general does not make him a competent politician yet. The head is needed in order to think, and not only to wear a cap

              That is, you consider the FSB general to be an illiterate, slow-witted, and his head is an object for wearing a headdress, and also that there is something in it? Don't go anywhere, they will come for you now.

              Take my word for it, although I think it will be difficult for you to do this, generals and officers in other ranks of the FSB are different.
              1. AK1972
                AK1972 4 September 2020 16: 17 New
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                Didn't understand what to believe? What is Mikhailov stupid?
                Quote: Wend
                although I think it will be difficult for you

                You're right. Why should I take the word of you or anyone else? Life has long taught me to take my word for it, except for the closest people.
                1. Vend
                  Vend 4 September 2020 17: 42 New
                  -16 qualifying.
                  Quote: AK1972
                  Didn't understand what to believe? What is Mikhailov stupid?
                  Quote: Wend
                  although I think it will be difficult for you

                  You're right. Why should I take the word of you or anyone else? Life has long taught me to take my word for it, except for the closest people.

                  The fact that not all smart people work in the FSB. Having personally read Mikhailov's statements, I did not see a far-sighted person. He may be a professional in his field, but in politics he is not so far-sighted. Well, if your nickname is the year of birth, then you and I are the same age, I learned different from experience, trust, but check. By the way, it is close ones who can hit more painfully than outsiders.
                  1. Fan-fan
                    Fan-fan 4 September 2020 18: 21 New
                    -5
                    I also doubt that there are professionals. For example, they couldn’t poison Skripal, they couldn’t poison Navalny, they couldn’t poison Politkovskaya and they simply had to shoot at her. They still manage to shoot, Rokhlin was shot, it worked, Nemtsov was shot - it also worked, but the problem with poisons. Litvinenko was effectively trampled, but they inherited so much that they were instantly identified. Only Platoshkin has not been killed yet, but I think everything is still ahead.
                    They noticed that they are removing exactly those who create a lot of problems for them in their quiet stay at the trough.
              2. Varyag71
                Varyag71 9 September 2020 10: 38 New
                +1
                and who are you to believe your words?
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          2. ccsr
            ccsr 4 September 2020 20: 12 New
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            Quote: Wend
            1. Refuse to participate in the Olympiad. Well, you are not a professional athlete, you do not understand what it means to prepare for the Olympics.

            I also do not understand how Switzerland lives without Olympic victories and takes the leading place in the world in terms of living standards. Maybe they beat the millionaire professionals and think that they should be trained not for budget money, but for sponsors' money like you?
            Well, tell me with what joy ordinary citizens of Russia should pay with their taxes for the successes of millionaire athletes, if, for example, they play in the NHL or live in Europe, Australia or elsewhere, but not in Russia.
            Quote: Wend
            To realize that time has shown that sport of great achievements has nothing to do with a healthy lifestyle. This is an incubator for the disabled.

            I completely agree with this, and therefore I believe that it is time to tie up with the state feeder - let them be kept by those whose business is built on sports topics and the production of sports equipment. But our budget money should be directed only to the development of mass sports of a non-professional level - this is a guarantee of the health of our population.
            Quote: Wend
            Athletes wishing to participate in the Olympiad without a flag and an anthem travel at their own expense. Well, this is perhaps a controversial statement.

            There is nothing controversial in this - let the sponsors pay for everything or through private donations.
            Quote: Wend
            To reconsider the attitude towards high-performance sports by withdrawing state funding and transferring funds to children's sports. Yeah, well, the children will go in for sports, and then what?

            They will be healthy. By the way, do you even know that now in schools training in sections is paid by parents? I think this is outrageous, which is why budget money should be directed only to mass sports and not to sponsoring millionaires.
            1. Liam
              Liam 4 September 2020 20: 27 New
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              Quote: ccsr
              I also don't understand how Switzerland lives without Olympic victories.



              Pages in category "Swiss Olympic Champions"
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              1. ccsr
                ccsr 4 September 2020 20: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: Liam
                Showing 101 pages out of 101 in this category.

                This is for all the Olympic Games, and as I understand it, most of their champions were at a time when professional athletes were forbidden to compete at the Olympic Games. But the question is not even that - at whose expense do Swiss athletes or athletes in the United States train?
                1. Liam
                  Liam 4 September 2020 20: 52 New
                  -3
                  PyeongChang Winter Olympic Games

                  Athletes
                  165 in 7 sports

                  Standard Bearer
                  Dario Cologna (opening)

                  Ramon Zehnhoisern (closing)

                  Medals
                  Place 8

                  Gold 5
                  Silver 6
                  Bronze 4
                  Total 15

                  And they train at the expense of the state too
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 4 September 2020 21: 04 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Liam
                    And they train at the expense of the state too

                    Do not create illusions and do not try to justify the unthinkable spending on our athletes:
                    The glitz and poverty of the Swiss sports elite
                    While Swiss tennis star Roger Federer makes millions, most of the country's other athletes struggle to live on very little money - also earned by sweat and blood. The state, of course, is making efforts to promote and support sports. But many people here believe that it is not a state matter to support sports, because this is just a "hobby". According to Forbes magazine, 17-time Grand Slam winner Roger Federer earned 2013 million francs from June 2014 to June 54, making him the highest paid tennis player in the world. Djerdan Shaqiri, perhaps the most famous Swiss footballer who scored a hat-trick at the last World Cup in Brazil, earns, according to media reports, at his club, Bayern Munich, 3 million francs a year. Most Swiss professional athletes never dreamed of such earnings.

                    Surprisingly, but true: almost half of them earn less than 14 thousand francs a year, which is about 60 thousand rubles a month, and this is just a tiny amount by Swiss standards. According to a report from the Swiss Federal High School of Sports in Magglingen (Eidgenössische Hochschule für Sport Magglingen - EHSM), which is based on information obtained from a survey of nearly 1 athletes and about 700 coaches, income from sports can live on only about a hundred athletes.


                    https://www.swissinfo.ch/rus/society/большой-спорт_блеск-и-нищета-швейцарской-спортивной-элиты/41070404
                    Have our athletes been compared with their salaries?
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 4 September 2020 21: 14 New
                      -8
                      So why don't you copy next?


                      At the end of September 2014, the large chamber of parliament, the National Council, adopted a legislative proposal to the government (postulate) entitled “Finanzierungssicherheit der Karriere von Spitzenathletinnen und —athleten”).

                      Quote: ccsr
                      Have our athletes been compared with their salaries?

                      With what with yours? In Russia, in the same way, there are athletes who receive millions and there are those who live on 30/40 000
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 4 September 2020 21: 20 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Liam
                        With what with yours? In Russia, in the same way, there are athletes who receive millions and there are those who live on 30/40 000

                        So we do not live at the level of Swiss income - we need to measure it for decency.
                        Quote: Liam
                        So why don't you copy next?

                        And why, if it was just a proposal, with which, by the way, not all parliamentarians agree. Read the article to the end.
                2. Liam
                  Liam 4 September 2020 20: 57 New
                  -4
                  Quote: ccsr
                  at whose expense Swiss athletes train

                  At present, the Swiss Olympic organization receives an average of 38 million francs a year in its income, of which 25 million come from Swiss lotteries, a little more than 10 million from the state budget and 3 million from private sponsors.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 4 September 2020 21: 13 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Liam
                    At present, the Swiss Olympic organization receives an average of 38 million francs a year in its income, of which 25 million come from Swiss lotteries, a little more than 10 million from the state budget and 3 million from private sponsors.

                    And here is how we are in addition to the budgetary funds that the government allocates through the Ministry of Sports:
                    ROC as a public organization receives funding from sponsors. The main donor of the Olympic movement in Russia is Gazprom. The company allocated $ 130 million for the Sochi Olympics, and after it ends, in October 2014, pledged the same amount for the next four-year cycle, which includes the Olympics in Rio de Janeiro and Pyeongchang.


                    Read more at RBC:
                    https://www.rbc.ru/society/05/12/2017/5a269f149a7947035c5edde4
                    By the way, Gazprom is a state-owned company, so the sponsorship money, again, did not go to our people, but was taken from their pockets.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 4 September 2020 21: 15 New
                      -10 qualifying.
                      Is sport to blame for the transfer of the entire economy to state-owned companies? You are glad about it
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 4 September 2020 21: 26 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Liam
                        Is sport to blame for the transfer of the entire economy to state-owned companies?

                        Do not distort - I touched upon the issue of financing our professional Olympic athletes, and not financing MASS sports, which should be spent on budget funds.
                        Quote: Liam
                        You are glad about it

                        On the contrary, I am opposed to our millionaire athletes being sponsored by the state or state-owned companies. I think this will stop when the new president does not worry so much about professional athletes - the current one loves them very much. Apparently you forgot how BMW SUVs were presented to them at the expense of the budget - it is interesting that in Switzerland they also receive such gifts ...
                3. Polente the Wanderer
                  Polente the Wanderer 7 September 2020 18: 47 New
                  +1
                  Maria Sharapova.
                  Coaches United States of America Robert Lansdorp (01.09.1998 - 12.09.2005)
                  United States of America Michael Joyce [ru] (19.09.2005 - 09.01.2011)
                  Sweden Thomas Högstedt [ru] (10.01.2011 - 12.07.2013, 24.04.2018 - 2019)
                  United States of America Jimmy Connors (13.07.2013 - 15.08.2013)
                  Netherlands Sven Gruneveld (21.11.2013 - 23.04.2018) [116]
                  Italy Riccardo Piatti (2019-2020)
                  Sharapova has been living in the USA since she was seven
                  At whose expense did you train
            2. your1970
              your1970 5 September 2020 23: 52 New
              -3
              Quote: ccsr
              But our budget money should be directed only to the development of mass sports of a non-professional level - this is a guarantee of the health of our population.
              - and then? here the child is engaged, the money is spent on mass sports, the results are good and?
              Quote: ccsr
              let the sponsors pay for everything or through private donations.
              - that is, go look for a sponsor?
              But what about the money invested in mass sports - to demand their return or what - if the child grows up in Sharapova or Zagitova?
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 6 September 2020 10: 48 New
                0
                Quote: your1970
                - and then? here the child is engaged, the money is spent on mass sports, the results are good and?

                And it will be physically strong and harmoniously developed at the expense of public funds. By the way, many guardians are simply not able to allocate money from the family budget to pay for the section at school, even if the children want to train - is that fair?
                Quote: your1970
                but what about the money invested in mass sports - to demand their return or something

                No, this is an investment in a future healthy nation, not a loan to parents that must be returned.
                Quote: your1970
                if the child grows into Sharapova or Zagitova?

                Let sponsors take care of their growth, especially companies associated with the production of sports equipment or advertising companies that need such people to advertise consumer goods. And the rest of the citizens of Russia need simple sports grounds, accessible sports sections with coaches, the opportunity to go in for sports for a symbolic fee - this is what we should strive for.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 6 September 2020 13: 25 New
                  -2
                  That is, we bury the sport of high achievements ?? !!!!
                  Then a child showing good results in mass sports will be forced to leave the Russian Federation in order to develop further. Our sponsors only work with teams ...
                  So what's next? Rejoice for victories FORMER our children?
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 6 September 2020 17: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: your1970
                    That is, we bury the sport of high achievements ?? !!!!

                    And what does he give to our people, if most of the "high achievements" are achieved through doping and chemical preparations, and this is accompanied by a series of scandals?
                    Quote: your1970
                    Then a child showing good results in mass sports will be forced to leave the Russian Federation in order to develop further.

                    Why so? There are many sports that are low budget and, in terms of entertainment, do not attract huge crowds. Elena Vyalbe even without sponsors won many international competitions without leaving the country, but her fees are hardly comparable to the fees of "outstanding" football players Kokorin and Mamaev.
                    Quote: your1970
                    Our sponsors only work with teams ...

                    So let our private sponsors work in the interests of individual athletes, no one is against. Only the state and its companies should not participate in such events - they should help mass sports, but not millionaires, participants in the Olympic Games or other competitions.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 6 September 2020 21: 45 New
                      -2
                      I understand your position ...
                      We bury the sport of high achievements. Children go with your results - to plow in the field or to the machine ... and do not care what you did well in free sport
                      Quote: ccsr
                      There are many sports that are low-budget and, in terms of entertainment, do not attract huge crowds.
                      - I'm embarrassed to ask - well, what for sponsors such types, on which advertising will not work?

                      Cut off one more social elevator for the children, why is there ...
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 7 September 2020 12: 07 New
                        0
                        Quote: your1970
                        I understand your position ...
                        We bury the sport of high achievements.

                        We do not bury it, but give it to those who earn capital on it.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Children go with your results - to plow in the field or to the machine ... and do not care - what you did well in free sports.

                        Free sports are needed for the development of a harmoniously developed person in the first place, and not to generate income from those who go in for sports. While my son was in school, I paid for the basketball section, but not because I wanted him to achieve outstanding results, but so that he would sit less at the computer and be physically developed. But I could afford it, but most of the guys from his class could not attend the section - I hope there is no need to explain why.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Cut off one more social elevator for the children, why is there ...

                        Since when has professional sports become a social lift for young people? There, only a few achieve something outstanding, and the majority cripple fate and health, and I saw this even on the example of my neighbors, whose son showed great promise in football. But after a game injury, his meniscus was removed, and he will now suffer from this for the rest of his life - do you think this is a worthy payment for the illusion of a "social elevator"?
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 7 September 2020 14: 38 New
                        -3
                        Quote: ccsr
                        But after a game injury, his meniscus was removed, and he will now suffer from this for the rest of his life - do you think this is a worthy payment for the illusion of a "social elevator"?

                        Almost all "loyal Leninists" who occupied any significant posts were shot. Was it a "social lift" or an illusion?
                        Big sport is an elevator for a person who has abilities. Has anyone heard about K. Lewis or about the same Vyalbe - if there was no big sport?
                      3. ccsr
                        ccsr 7 September 2020 18: 01 New
                        0
                        Quote: your1970
                        Almost all "loyal Leninists" who occupied any significant posts were shot.

                        You are making a strange transition - we are discussing real budget money that goes to millionaire athletes now, but you suddenly remembered what we had under Tsar Pea ...
                        Quote: your1970
                        Big sport is an elevator for a person who has abilities.

                        Well, how many people do you know who really made their way in life after they finished their sports career? Just don't talk about the athletes' deputies in the Duma - it's just a discrediting of our higher authorities.
                        Quote: your1970
                        or about the same Vyalbe - if there was no big sport?

                        Did Vyalbe become a millionaire for our money? As far as I know, she is an outstanding coach, and she lives very modestly, so if you measure by money, then she is far from our football players who are arranging drunken fights.
                      4. your1970
                        your1970 7 September 2020 20: 48 New
                        -2
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Did Vyalbe become a millionaire for our money?
                        "Are you only interested in millions? The problem is only in money?"
                        Well - then the new Vyalbe won't appear now - we'll kill big sports.
                        Well, at the same time she will lose her coaching work - there will be no Olympians
  2. zenion
    zenion 9 September 2020 21: 24 New
    +1
    Athletes want, athletes have. When the main thing is money - everything else is nonsense. The West created Hitler and now it is believed that Stalin created him and the West had to kill Hitler. Stalin would not have killed him, but the West would have done it without fail, as with Hess. How they were afraid of him is beyond description!
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 4 September 2020 13: 03 New
    -17 qualifying.
    During the Great Patriotic War, the term "trench psychology" emerged and firmly established itself. This is when a private in his trench confidently examines the actions of marshals and generals, refuting their erroneous actions and indicating the only absolutely correct path. I love to read articles from this extensive series on VO!
    Again, Anton Pavlovich once said: "If people only said what they know, what silence would come in the world!" Do we need it?
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 4 September 2020 19: 45 New
      -10 qualifying.
      Thank you all for the dislikes: you are NICE SPEAKING and wonderfully show WHO is active on VO!
  • snake
    snake 4 September 2020 13: 06 New
    14
    Anatoly, you have been awarded a prize for fighting the liberals!

    ZY And what is it in your picture for the name is: War Witch squad? Is this your organization or what?
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 4 September 2020 13: 36 New
      18
      You have been awarded a prize for fighting the liberals!

      30 silver coins! Nominal aspen - as a gift - just "pull" by the string!
    2. Vend
      Vend 4 September 2020 16: 09 New
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: serpent
      Anatoly, you have been awarded a prize for fighting the liberals!

      ZY

      Well, this denomination is quite digestible for any patriot, not for money, like liberals, but for the state of mind we are glad for the state.
      Quote: serpent
      And what is it in your picture for the name is: War Witch squad? Is this your organization or what?

      Well I'm not surprised by your straightforward association laughing This is a community of girls who not only get sick with rags, but also think about their native country. So I gladly joined from the community. It's nice when girls are not only smart, but also satire is subject to them. Type in a search engine and see.)
      1. snake
        snake 4 September 2020 23: 06 New
        +7
        Quote: Wend
        Well, this denomination is quite digestible for any patriot, not for money, like liberals, but for the state of mind we are glad for the state.

        You are happy for the system that now dominates in Russia. For all the negativity, shame and humiliation of the country that are described in this article. For 20 million beggars and for a couple of hundred richer oligarchs even during the crisis; for reducing the population and for raising the retirement age; for the plundering of mineral resources and the export of billions abroad. You can continue for a long time. State of mind? Do not make me laugh. You were able to succeed with this system - good. It is for the material benefits that you have received during this time that you are happy. The rest did not fit in - they themselves are to blame. The soul has nothing to do with it. Everything is very down to earth ...
        Quote: Wend
        This is a community of girls who not only get sick with rags, but also think about their native country.

        Yes, well done girls. They think about their native country. About Ukraine or what? I thought so. It's all about her, yes about her. Well, what is not about Ukraine, then about the United States. Some branch of the Evening M, God forgive me. By the way, about the Lord ... The girls somehow called themselves not Orthodox. The patriarch will not approve, it seems to me ...
        1. Vend
          Vend 7 September 2020 10: 43 New
          -2
          Quote: serpent
          Quote: Wend
          Well, this denomination is quite digestible for any patriot, not for money, like liberals, but for the state of mind we are glad for the state.

          You are happy for the system that now dominates in Russia. For all the negativity, shame and humiliation of the country that are described in this article. For 20 million beggars and for a couple of hundred richer oligarchs even during the crisis; for reducing the population and for raising the retirement age; for the plundering of mineral resources and the export of billions abroad. You can continue for a long time. State of mind? Do not make me laugh. You were able to succeed with this system - good. It is for the material benefits that you have received during this time that you are happy. The rest did not fit in - they themselves are to blame. The soul has nothing to do with it. Everything is very down to earth ...
          Quote: Wend
          This is a community of girls who not only get sick with rags, but also think about their native country.

          Yes, well done girls. They think about their native country. About Ukraine or what? I thought so. It's all about her, yes about her. Well, what is not about Ukraine, then about the United States. Some branch of the Evening M, God forgive me. By the way, about the Lord ... The girls somehow called themselves not Orthodox. The patriarch will not approve, it seems to me ...

          Well, something like this laughing


          And you won't be able to offend the girls, your mind has not yet grown to them laughing
          1. snake
            snake 8 September 2020 17: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: Wend
            And you won't be able to offend the girls, your mind has not yet grown to them

            The main thing is that you have grown up. Up to the level of transmissions with Solovyov. And this is already a diagnosis, Tolya ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 September 2020 10: 22 New
    17
    The list is too long .... Ali, do you think that most people just clap their hands for the action "hey, you are up there." After all, many people are offended for POWER!
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 4 September 2020 11: 59 New
      -4
      After all, many people are offended for POWER!
      and as soon as they announce on TV a referendum on zeroing and rescue and barge to the polls like zombies
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 12: 05 New
        11
        Well, yes, nobody else is interesed ... as soon as to vote for the eternal father of the king.
        This is no longer interesting.
      2. bayard
        bayard 4 September 2020 12: 20 New
        14
        Quote: Igoresha
        and as soon as they announce on TV a referendum on zeroing and rescue and barge to the polls like zombies

        They promised to obtain Russia's sovereignty by a referendum ... but at the first tsyku dived into the holes (bunkers) and put on muzzles.
        This is not Power, these are actors in the theater of power.
      3. hhhhhhh
        hhhhhhh 4 September 2020 12: 23 New
        -6
        Quote: Igoresha
        go to the polls like zombies

        Didn't you go?
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 4 September 2020 12: 38 New
          +3
          Relatives from Belgorod told me how their last presidential elections were held - a decree from above to teachers so that 85% are clear for whom, meaning?
          1. hhhhhhh
            hhhhhhh 4 September 2020 13: 38 New
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: Igoresha
            Relatives from Belgorod told me how their last presidential elections were held - a decree from above to teachers so that 85% are clear for whom, meaning?

            You're a liar. Lying is a mortal sin.
            The votes of 85% of the teachers cannot influence the election results.
            Stop lying.
            1. evgen1221
              evgen1221 4 September 2020 14: 27 New
              +7
              And now multiply by all the teachers and hard workers of the public sector and the structures controlled by the uncle in power, so the percentage runs up, even if a couple of people do not come, then 80% is guaranteed. And where is the choice? And is it really needed, and was there any?
              1. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 4 September 2020 14: 49 New
                -7
                Quote: evgen1221
                And where is the choice? And is it really needed, and was there any?

                Didn't teachers and hard workers have the right to choose whom you didn't want? Who did you vote for?
              2. Spartanec
                Spartanec 4 September 2020 15: 03 New
                +4
                Do you know, I, too, shall say this as a public sector worker in Russia. And I also heard more than once that we are directly ordered to vote for Vova. Just like you, the percentages showed and told that they themselves were witnesses and that the neighbor's cat, after the call of a familiar dog, told. But I can tell you for sure, we were not forced to vote for anyone, but simply to go and vote for whom we ourselves were forced to. And even then they forced it to be said loudly. Although I believe that this is correct, simply because, for example, I like those states where voting is not a right but a duty of a citizen. I personally do not believe that Lukashenka (although personally he is disgusting to me) set the task of securing 80% of positive votes for him. Another thing is local leaders who dream of holding out at the trough for a longer time and better licking the king's causal place. So they could well put pressure on the voter. But if I personally would be against then I would vote against and no one would be able to stop me. So all this nagging for the poor.
                1. evgen1221
                  evgen1221 4 September 2020 15: 59 New
                  +3
                  I do not argue that with Lukashenka it was in the electoral commissions that the tsiferki plus the people’s were corrected — draw the bosses more beautifully. There is little, there is little in the end 80% which are not in any gate.
              3. Departure
                Departure 4 September 2020 18: 10 New
                0
                There is a choice, though small: come or stay at home. I completely agree with your comment, however, I read it through my prism of perception, it may be wrong.
            2. Igoresha
              Igoresha 4 September 2020 23: 48 New
              +2
              winked
              The votes of 85% of the teachers cannot influence the election results.

              the teacher counted the votes, in the election commission of the village, and they were ordered to provide.
              1. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 5 September 2020 07: 46 New
                -2
                Quote: Igoresha
                the teacher counted the votes, at the village election commission, and they were ordered to provide.

                Have you seen it yourself? She may have misunderstood, invented to curry favor. You don't even know the "provision" took place.

                If you are a citizen. Obliged to go to the polls. So as not to bark later, while never visiting the sites.
                I do not like who I choose myself, go to the polls.
                I do not like how observers think go to the commission.

                Spreading the stories "The Officer's Daughters" is a sin. God has already punished you with wretchedness. Stop lying and you'll find work right away.
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 4 September 2020 10: 40 New
    13
    What Western sanctions are they talking about in Russia all the time?
    Of the real ones - only a ban on the supply of equipment for oil production on the shelf and lending in Western banks. Now, with the decline in demand for hydrocarbons, it has become clear that even without the shelf it is not clear what to do with oil. And without Western loans in Russia, there is money in bulk: 30 trillion rubles are dead weight on deposits. individuals and 30 trillion. legal entities (60 trillion, that's $ 800 billion). And this is not counting the NWF and gold reserves (another 700 billion dollars). Those. the country has $ 1,5 trillion. dollars officially (unofficially - under mattresses, offshore, etc. - hundreds of billions more).
    Ordinary people do not notice these sanctions at all (not counting Russian self-sanctions on the import of Western food)
    In general, we need to stop talking about some kind of confrontation between the West and Russia, this is a single organism in a globalized world. "Insidious NATO countries", for example, make us ballistic missiles at Krasmash, France is now building LNG plants on Yamal, and companies from Germany and Holland have built the Crimean Bridge (and German gas turbines from Siemens have been supplied to the sanctioned Crimea). In response, Russia, year after year, regularly withdraws money from Russia to the "damned West" (over the past twenty years, at least $ 1 trillion has been withdrawn), our elite is growing more and more nests there.
    Mutual enemies do not have such economic and almost families of friendship.
    (Yes, there are still personal sanctions. But evil tongues have written more than once that the same Surkov, according to documents in a different name, traveled to the NATO country Bulgaria, some other sanctioned countries; security officials rush back and forth across the sanctioned countries - that with official visits what with unofficial)
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 September 2020 11: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: Deniska999
      What Western sanctions are they talking about in Russia all the time?
      Of the real ones - only a ban on the supply of equipment for oil production on the shelf and lending in Western banks. Now, with the decline in demand for hydrocarbons, it has become clear that even without the shelf it is not clear what to do with oil. And without Western loans in Russia, there is money in bulk: 30 trillion rubles are dead weight on deposits. individuals and 30 trillion. legal entities (60 trillion, that's $ 800 billion). And this is not counting the NWF and gold reserves (another 700 billion dollars). Those. the country has $ 1,5 trillion. dollars officially (unofficially - under mattresses, offshore, etc. - hundreds of billions more).
      Ordinary people do not notice these sanctions at all (not counting Russian self-sanctions on the import of Western food)
      In general, we need to stop talking about some kind of confrontation between the West and Russia, this is a single organism in a globalized world. "Insidious NATO countries", for example, make us ballistic missiles at Krasmash, France is now building LNG plants on Yamal, and companies from Germany and Holland have built the Crimean Bridge (and German gas turbines from Siemens have been supplied to the sanctioned Crimea). In response, Russia, year after year, regularly withdraws money from Russia to the "damned West" (over the past twenty years, at least $ 1 trillion has been withdrawn), our elite is growing more and more nests there.
      Mutual enemies do not have such economic and almost families of friendship.
      (Yes, there are still personal sanctions. But evil tongues have written more than once that the same Surkov, according to documents in a different name, traveled to the NATO country Bulgaria, some other sanctioned countries; security officials rush back and forth across the sanctioned countries - that with official visits what with unofficial)

      as my childhood friend used to say on TV-Stirlitz: ... burn Bratan !!! and then it's all near-contested whining.
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 4 September 2020 11: 55 New
      15
      Quote: Deniska999
      and the Crimean Bridge was built by companies from Germany and Holland (and German gas turbines from Siemens were supplied to the sanctioned Crimea).

      In my opinion, you are greatly mistaken here, because I constantly visited the Crimea during the construction of the bridge and did not smell of any foreign companies - the entire project, equipment, equipment and specialists were ours and Rotenberg's company was engaged in this. As for the Siemens turbines, they were not supplied to Crimea, and there was a scandal when they were placed in the wrong place where they were planned under the contract. So what about the participation of foreign companies in the life of Crimea, you are clearly misleading people - there are practically none of them there.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 12: 11 New
        +3
        This is such a mixture, thick and cloudy ... it is not clear what the final "product" should have been?
      2. AK1972
        AK1972 4 September 2020 12: 30 New
        14
        Quote: ccsr
        the whole project, equipment, technicians and specialists were ours and Rotenberg's company was engaged in this.

        Why are you so disrespectful about Arkady Romanovich? Now your phrase should sound like this: "... the whole project, equipment, equipment and specialists were ours and the company was engaged in this Hero of Labor A.R. Rotenberg."And certainly - Uraaaaa !!!
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 4 September 2020 19: 59 New
          -1
          Quote: AK1972
          And certainly - Uraaaaa !!!

          Do it for me - I will not be offended ...
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 4 September 2020 20: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: ccsr
        equipment, equipment

        I live in Togliatti, we are building the M-5 junction to Zhig. The sea - imported equipment, the road to Yagodnoye (bridge over the Volga) - imported equipment. Ready to prove at least a photo, at least a video. hi
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 4 September 2020 20: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          I live in Togliatti, we are building the M-5 junction to Zhig. Sea - imported equipment,

          So you write from an imported computer here - which proves that if you bought it for YOUR money, no matter where you earned it and it belongs to you, and you can make money on it online. The question is different - who is building our company or from Germany and Holland, as an ignorant person told here about the Crimean Bridge.
      4. 72jora72
        72jora72 5 September 2020 22: 34 New
        +2
        So what about the participation of foreign companies in the life of Crimea, you are clearly misleading people - there are practically none of them there.
        Yes, to hell with them with foreign companies, we will survive. But there are no our companies either, Russian Railways, Sberbank, Magnit, Gazprom, X5 Retail Group, VTB, Yandex-taxi, Megafon, Beline, Russian Post, VTB .................
        PiSi ......... Our Crimea (c)
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 6 September 2020 10: 35 New
          -3
          Quote: 72jora72
          Yes, to hell with them with foreign companies, we will survive. But there are no our companies either, Russian Railways, Sberbank, Magnit, Gazprom, X5 Retail Group, VTB, Yandex-taxi, Megafon, Beline, Russian Post, VTB .................
          PiSi ......... Our Crimea (c)

          I will answer in order.
          Whose trains have been running to Crimea since 2014, when the ferry service still existed?
          Krasnodar Territory - Crimea - 400 km long gas trunkline. Built in 2016. Who built it and who supplies the gas?
          Several banks operate in Crimea, and Sberbank cards can be ordered and received without leaving even Crimea. They work everywhere in Crimea - what is the problem, even if pensioners have learned to use them?


          Quote: 72jora72
          X5 Retail Group,

          And they will not be allowed into Crimea by local network groups - everything is staked out there, and there is no free space and personnel for these structures. Recently the Dobrocen network has broken through, so they are forced to rent abandoned premises, restore them, because everything is occupied by Silpo, Pud, Lucky and ATB.
          All telecom operators work in Crimea and you can call from your phone, or use Krasnodar Vinmobile - the tariffs are almost the same.
          Quote: 72jora72
          Russian Post,

          The mail works like in the rest of Russia - you probably did not use it.
          So Crimea is ours - planes fly, trains run, people live the same way as in the rest of Russia, although now they have begun to live much better due to improved infrastructure. And this is striking for those who have come to Crimea for a long time - they immediately see improvements.
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 6 September 2020 11: 08 New
            0
            Whose trains have been running to Crimea since 2014, when the ferry service still existed?
            You are funny wink I will answer in order, in July 14, there was 1 (one) Russian Railways flight to Crimea, I don’t remember what date, you can find it on the internet (and there were no sanctions at that time, this is for your information). By the way, my daughter and I went on this flight. ...
            Further, there is no Russian Post in Crimea. Yes Yes. There is the Crimean Post - it basically works on almost the same principle and tariffs as the Russian post, but this is not the Russian post, this is the Crimea Post, legally it is a separate enterprise not connected with the PR
            All telecom operators work in Crimea and you can call from your phone
            There are no our telecom operators in Crimea, their SIM-cards cannot be bought in Crimea, and already existing SIM cards imported from the regions of Russia will work in roaming. I can continue indefinitely, but I will not. And yes, I am in Crimea all the time (the last time I was in Alushta and Kerch from 2 to 22 July this year), and I know the situation.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 6 September 2020 11: 43 New
              -2
              Quote: 72jora72
              You are funny. I will answer in order, in July 14 there was 1 (one) Russian Railways flight to Crimea, I don’t remember what date, you can find it on the Internet (and there were no sanctions at that time, this is for your information).

              You are just verbiage, because Russian Railways, in addition to passenger trains, threw a huge number of transport trains through the ferry crossing. Everyone who stood in line on the Chushka spit will confirm this to you - freight trains were constantly moving there. The passenger flow was not very significant, which is why they limited themselves to a transfer at the station. "Port Caucasus".
              Quote: 72jora72
              Further, there is no Russian Post in Crimea. Yes Yes. There is the Crimean Post - it basically works on almost the same principle and tariffs,

              Do you need mail or your principle? I don’t care - I have sent parcels there many times, and they are accepted by the Russian Post. What is your personal problem? Can't you send a parcel from Crimea or the postmen didn't bring your pension home?
              Quote: 72jora72
              In Crimea, there are no our telecom operators, in Crimea you cannot buy their SIM-cards, and already existing SIM cards imported from the regions of Russia will work in roaming.

              Don't wag - in Crimea, many people have cards of Russian telecom operators, and some of my friends use them. Do you personally come to Crimea to buy a SIM card from a Russian operator or to relax? Once again, I inform you that the Crimeans have long learned to use the services of Russian operators, if it is profitable for them. I have a Vinmobile SIM card in one of the phones, and I use it when I am in Crimea, so there is no need to pedal this topic, it is insignificant for Crimeans.
              Quote: 72jora72
              And yes, I visit Crimea all the time (the last time was in Alushta and Kerch from July 2 to 22 this year), and I know the situation.

              And I was there at that time and even more on time. But that’s not the point, but the fact that you don’t know the real problems of the Crimean people and broadcast like the Ukrainian media. And there is only one problem - it is really difficult to get a Russian passport for a resident of Crimea in order to get to the Schengen countries or the United States, and for this you need to travel to another region of Russia. But Crimeans can easily cope with this - you are simply not in the subject, so you are telling cheap horror stories. Continue to endlessly hang noodles to the trusting public, but not like me, because I know life in Crimea better than you, and not only because I go there more often, but also because my relatives and my school friends, with whom I live there I communicate constantly.
              1. 72jora72
                72jora72 6 September 2020 12: 35 New
                -1
                And there is only one problem - it is really difficult to get a Russian passport for a resident of Crimea in order to get to the Schengen countries or the USA,
                You are really funny laughing , and I doubt your "Crimean relatives", most of the Crimeans still have Ukrov passports, by which they can easily issue visa-free travel ...
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 6 September 2020 17: 33 New
                  -1
                  Quote: 72jora72
                  most of the Crimean people still have Ukrov passports, by which they can easily issue visa-free travel ...

                  You are lying, and it is easily refuted by those who know the life of the Crimean people. Most of them do not go to Ukraine at all, if only because many of them got on the site "Peacemaker" because of the elections, and internal Ukrainian passports are not a guarantee that they will be given "visa-free", and not arrested for being citizens Russia. The only Crimeans with two passports who feel at ease in Ukraine are those who at the time of the referendum were outside Crimea and worked at Ukrainian enterprises. It was they who later secretly received Russian passports, and have a legal excuse for being drafted into the ATO, because have refugee status, and they really have nothing to fear. How Crimeans, former Ukrainian servicemen were caught on the Crimean border, and how they were given terms is known in detail from the official protests of the Russian Foreign Ministry.
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 4 September 2020 12: 08 New
      0
      In mixed, porridge! What did you want to say?
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 4 September 2020 12: 24 New
        14
        I already wrote that when I read that Navalny was allowed to be taken to Germany, and absolutely without any agreements and conditions, I immediately thought: "Hmm .. What was that? This is a kind of masochism in the Kremlin, or hopeless insanity and the stupidity in which, apparently, he has been staying lately ... "As for for Kenya and for the Russian people. Well, for Africa, the Kremlin makes every possible relief, forgiving them all debts for the sake of something "maybe in the future", but for the Russian people ... here, literally today I read it in the mail. ru: "Tax on vacation. How much you have to pay for entry to natural parks" ... to collect dead wood "for free" ....
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 4 September 2020 12: 48 New
          +9
          that Navalny was allowed to be taken to Germany,
          deflection below the baseboard. He was also under investigation for allegedly insulting a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, 15 investigators are conducting (led) 4 of them on especially important cases
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 00 New
            +3
            Quote: Igoresha
            He is under investigation for allegedly

            Who will post him, he's a monument ???
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 4 September 2020 12: 58 New
          +6
          Quote: Snail N9
          This is the kind of masochism the Kremlin has, or the hopeless insanity and stupidity in which, apparently, it has been recently.

          Why only recently? the process has not stopped since .....!
          The only salvation in this case is "fake laws, but oak execution" ...
      2. AK1972
        AK1972 4 September 2020 14: 14 New
        +4
        This is me not for you, Victor, but for the forum member ccsr (see his comment above).
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 4 September 2020 14: 41 New
          +4
          So I did not write to your post ... for Deniska999 Today, 10:40 the definition was.
          it jumped so much.
    4. Not_invented
      Not_invented 4 September 2020 12: 49 New
      13
      Today I suddenly noticed that the dollar in 2014 cost 30, and today it costs 75. And along with it, in the same proportion, everything that is purchased abroad. For example, computer equipment and cars. If you haven't noticed that the conditional Kia Rio in 2014 cost 400 thousand rubles, and today 800+, then I sincerely envy you.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 13: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Not_invented
        I suddenly noticed today that the dollar in 2014 was worth 30, and today it is worth 75.

        They have this one, like her ... enfluence, oh no, INFLATION! yesterday three, but small, today five, but BIG!
        In general, it is not funny.
      2. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 4 September 2020 18: 32 New
        +4
        And in 2005 I bought a new VAZ for 170000 rubles, and now it is not so easy to buy a VAZ with prices.
    5. 72jora72
      72jora72 5 September 2020 22: 24 New
      +1
      What Western sanctions are they talking about in Russia all the time?
      Of the real ones - only a ban on the supply of equipment for oil production on the shelf and lending in Western banks.
      Stop looking at Solovyov and Kiselev at night ...
    6. Antonio_Mariarti
      Antonio_Mariarti 5 September 2020 22: 56 New
      +2
      Yeah, sanctions have noticed it, since 2014 everything has risen in price by 2 times (except for the basics of products: buckwheat, millet) I am already silent that equipment that until 2014 was up to 20k (for example a washing machine) was considered budgetary, now it is budgetary from 30 to 50k. I’m already silent about the filling, how manufacturers began to economize on many things so that the price did not rise higher, as almost everything that is connected for a citizen of the Russian Federation is usually imported.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 4 September 2020 10: 12 New
    -6
    So we are reaping the benefits of toothlessness and thoughtlessness.
    Actually, if you look at the history of Russia, then this "toothlessness" lasts more than one century. And always, with rare exceptions, Russia (I mean officials) looked back at the opinion of the West - no matter how badly they thought about us ... And Russia began to "snap" only when it was completely "driven into a corner" ...
    Kenya was unable to pay off loans to China, and China took the port of Mombasa.
    This is the first time I've heard, sorry about the details. Well, I'll find it myself, since it hasn't been banned in Google yet ... Are there other similar examples in modern history? For example, how did China chop off something for the debts somewhere closer? For example, India, Vietnam or North Korea?
    1. tatra
      tatra 4 September 2020 10: 19 New
      12
      For all the decades after the October Revolution, the West waged an information and economic war against Soviet Russia / USSR. But the communists also created a whole socialist system in the world, and they had a bunch of "friendly regimes". And the enemies of the communists, who seized Russia, and squealed that they were friends with the USSR for the sake of money, and forgave other countries about 150 billion dollars that those countries owed the Soviet Union, and distributed money to other countries, and the result is "all around the enemies."
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 4 September 2020 10: 52 New
        -7
        Quote: tatra
        The West waged an information and economic war against Soviet Russia / USSR for all decades after the October Revolution

        Like hundreds of years before that ...
        Quote: tatra
        which those countries owed the Soviet Union, and they themselves distributed money to other countries, and the result is "all around the enemies

        I would like to clarify how many debts the Union managed to return? Just for fun. And was there any hope at all to repay these debts?

        Quote: tatra
        created a whole socialist system in the world, and they had a bunch of "friendly regimes

        And in difficult times for Russia, all these "friendly regimes" found themselves in the camp of "enemies of the communists." And at the same time, they are hostile to Russia, which was "captured by the enemies of the communists" ...
        Quote: tatra
        And the enemies of the communists who captured Russia


        Quote: tatra
        and the result is "enemies all around."

        This result is always natural when Russia is weakened. As soon as Russia gains strength, allies immediately appear. The "whole socialist system" you mentioned did not arise during the time of industrialization and collectivization, when the Soviet Union put all its efforts into preparing for war, not during a war, when the very existence of the state and the peoples of the Union depended on the outcome of the war. Social the system arose when the USSR destroyed the invaders (in fact, the united forces of Europe) and when Soviet troops were on the territory of each of the future socialist states. Until the USSR was weak, no one dreamed of any socialist system.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 4 September 2020 11: 50 New
          +5
          Quote: Lesovik
          We are toothless. Where does the addictive effect come from?

          You yourself, you understand that it was a "loan" for a long time, and it was not meant to return, what about your education? all "credits" collapsed together with the USSR, who is now with Mighty Russia? scared Lukashenka? ah good ally? you yourself are not smeshite.nikto "businessmen from the state industry does not believe.
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 4 September 2020 12: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Dead Day
            you yourself then, you understand that it was a "loan" for a long time, and it was not meant to return,

            Gorgeous. Loan without return. At the expense of the well-being of its own citizens?
            Quote: Dead Day
            what about your education?

            Quote: Dead Day
            all "credits" collapsed together with the USSR, who is now with Mighty Russia?

            Did I say that Russia is now "Mighty Russia"?
            Quote: Dead Day
            no one "trusts the dealers from the state industry.

            Just the same "businessmen from the state industry" do not have the habit of revising the concluded contracts. This is the manner of transiters and buyers. Not? That is, if you are talking about Gazprom ...
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 4 September 2020 10: 31 New
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      Quote: Lesovik
      Actually, if you look at the history of Russia, then this "toothlessness" lasts more than one century. And always, with rare exceptions, Russia (I mean officials) looked back at the opinion of the West - no matter how badly they thought about us ... And Russia began to "snap" only when it was completely "driven into a corner" ...

      I disagree. Gromyko first-class defended the interests of the USSR .. Anyway, under the USSR, our foreign policy was serious and toothy.
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 4 September 2020 11: 31 New
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        1957-1985: MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS SUPERPOWER
        In the "space" 1957, significant for all mankind, Gromyko was appointed Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR. A long era has begun, during which our country has taken, perhaps, the strongest position in the world in its entire history. The strengthening and expansion of the socialist camp took place, many countries of the world found themselves in the sphere of Soviet influence, including in distant Africa and Latin America. As the head of the Soviet Foreign Ministry, Gromyko remained loyal to the firm position he had tested during his work at the UN.
        The culmination of Gromyko's foreign policy activity was his meeting with R. Reagan, which was held at the initiative of the United States in September 1984 in Washington. These were the first negotiations between an American president and a representative of the USSR leadership in three and a half years. At a meeting with Gromyko, Reagan recognized the status of a superpower for the Soviet Union.

        http://lhistory.ru/statyi/andrej-gromyko-mister-net
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 4 September 2020 13: 27 New
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          Gromyko became well known in international circles for his eternally dissatisfied and gloomy expression on his face, and was also uncompromising, for which he received the nickname "Mister" No. "He himself said about this:" They heard my "no" much less often than I did " know ", because we put forward many more proposals. They called me "Mr. No" in their newspapers, because I didn't allow myself to be manipulated. Those who strove for this wanted to manipulate the Soviet Union. We are a great power, and we will not allow anyone to do this! "

          If you don't want to, you respect it. Leo is no match for rats!
      2. Woodman
        Woodman 4 September 2020 13: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        Gromyko first-class defended the interests of the USSR .. Anyway, under the USSR, our foreign policy was serious and toothy.

        I would say - more toothy than now or during the empire. There are also plenty of examples of the "toothlessness" of Soviet policy. Only is it necessary to lament over this? Politics is not played alone. And therefore often toothiness and toothlessness are determined by the willingness to yield on the part of the "second player". Or the hopelessness of his position.
        With regards to Gromyko, he is just a minister. And the events on Damanskoye took place precisely when he was the Minister of Foreign Affairs. And the so-called "Prague Spring" too. And the introduction of troops into Afghanistan and the subsequent boycott of the 80 Olympics was also with him.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 4 September 2020 18: 38 New
          +7
          Yes, on Damanskoye we cut the Chinese well and defended our islands, and that was under Gromyko, and under Putin, silently and without unnecessary rustle, we gave these islands to the Chinese.
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 7 September 2020 09: 25 New
            -3
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            Yes, on Damansky, we hit the Chinese well and defended our islands, and that was under Gromyko,

            I just want to remind you that it was under Gromyko that we got a situation that led to this conflict, as a result of which we had a very serious enemy in the east. And it was the task of the Foreign Ministry to prevent the transformation of an ally into an enemy. And to prevent this conflict was also the task of the Foreign Ministry. Under the leadership of Gromyko. So China for Gromyko is the same as Ukraine for Lavrov is a 100% failure in this particular direction. With the only difference that under Gromyko, as a result of failure, we DEFENDED Damansky, and under Lavrov, as a result of failure, we acquired Crimea.
    3. Igoresha
      Igoresha 4 September 2020 12: 01 New
      -3
      looked at the opinion of the West - no matter how badly they thought of us ...
      Shirokograd on this topic even overthrew the "iron chancellor" Gorchakov from the pedestal, he was not iron, but a rag ((
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 September 2020 10: 18 New
    +3
    ... And I wonder why they didn’t invite foreign doctors to Omsk, why they didn’t take control tests from Navalny in the foreign presence, why they didn’t take the necessary actions with his attendants, why, why ...

    So it’s interesting for me, what dunduk advised / decided to find problems on fillets here for so many who sit well at the very top?
    So the GOOD MAN !!! Perfectly framed them all!
    We, downstairs, do not care .... WE HAVE NORMALLY HOLDING !!!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 4 September 2020 10: 28 New
      12
      Quote: rocket757
      We, downstairs, do not care .... WE HAVE NORMALLY HOLDING !!!

      Unfortunately, they don’t care, all the mistakes are reflected directly on us .. For they are still getting richer, and the people are getting poorer ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2020 10: 39 New
        0
        Now I'm not touching on the obvious ... capitalism, that says it all!
        But even in such a coordinate system, I am very against our upper ones being such .... losers, even on the information front!
        1. dauria
          dauria 4 September 2020 11: 06 New
          -3
          But even in such a coordinate system, it is very much against our upper ones to be so ... losers


          But what about it? !!!! belay I would neigh, but it's not funny ...
          "The revolutionary class in a reactionary war cannot but wish defeat for its government. This is an axiom. And it is disputed only by conscious supporters or helpless servants of the social-chauvinists."
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 September 2020 11: 40 New
            0
            Quote: dauria
            I would neigh, but it's not funny ...

            Not funny!
            Quote: dauria
            The revolutionary class in a reactionary war cannot but wish to defeat its government.

            This is an axiom !!! but I don’t want new troubles, from the definition AT ALL! Not for the sake of the upper ones, for those who are closer to me, who are near.
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 4 September 2020 12: 48 New
        +7
        What kind of mistake is this ?? If it were the other way around, it would be a mistake on the part of the authorities. And so they have all the way: they banned books to photograph in stores this week. Never did it, but now you can't recourse
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 September 2020 10: 24 New
    21
    Not an article - a cry from the heart! I fully support it.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 4 September 2020 10: 29 New
    +7
    They sent Navalny to Germany, and there it was determined that they had hounded him. And in order not to bother choosing a reason, they remembered "Novichok". For Russia, this will do.
    No, I somehow felt offended for the "Novichek" chemical warfare agent. Everyone knows this "Breathe, cry, death!" and here those two just got banged by the kid, but the cat remained alive, then Lyokha got banged again and alive. And what kind of wrong BOV are these, and why are they needed? More people in our country are dying from "beer with dichlorvos", we would use this tested, reliable tool.
    1. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 4 September 2020 11: 01 New
      +1
      I think everything will be cleared up tonight. This will be the right time for a deep introspection session that will allow you to look at many things from a different angle.
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 4 September 2020 14: 08 New
        0
        This is what you think. Thoughts depend on the thinker. Well, it seems to you, but it's completely different for me
        1. a.hamster55
          a.hamster55 4 September 2020 15: 05 New
          -1
          Totally agree with you. After all, even fiery revolutionaries and ardent patriots love to eat booze, judging by their implemented decisions before ...
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 4 September 2020 18: 15 New
            +1
            Well, I'm not going to fight with pictures. Where did these pictures come from? As far as I remember it was one of our non-brothers. So don't get carried away with this business ...
            1. a.hamster55
              a.hamster55 4 September 2020 19: 00 New
              +1
              Duc tell us dark ones what to do - wider or deeper? And preferably without any such killing.
              1. Sergey Averchenkov
                Sergey Averchenkov 4 September 2020 19: 08 New
                -1
                You are not dark, you are just stupid. I do not know how to explain it to you, this is given with education, even with birth. Good luck to you.
                1. a.hamster55
                  a.hamster55 4 September 2020 19: 19 New
                  0
                  In the deputy for IAS from 218 aircraft they do not take something like that. Yes, you still do not know how to explain - Dunno.
                  1. Sergey Averchenkov
                    Sergey Averchenkov 4 September 2020 19: 33 New
                    -1
                    Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I just kicked up. It happens. Sorry again. Let me be dunno.
                    1. a.hamster55
                      a.hamster55 4 September 2020 19: 44 New
                      -3
                      As a pensioner, the current president suits me. And he himself admits mistakes. So I want to understand how to make people's life better without populist snot.
                      1. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 6 September 2020 09: 30 New
                        -1
                        Strange, me too.
  • apro
    apro 4 September 2020 10: 32 New
    +9
    And everyone around us is accustomed to Russia's weak position.

    This is not a position. This is a choice. At the expense of the interests of the majority of the population. At the expense of destroying the future to solve their purely class interests. The choice of the ruling class, we exchange Russia for money and the opportunity to join the circle of the best families of the west ... naive.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 4 September 2020 14: 15 New
      16
      the choice of the ruling class, we are exchanging Russia for money and the opportunity to join the circle of the best families in the West ...

      Oleg hi The ingratiating Pug will be lisped to as long as she drags "good" from her house to the new owner. When the "flow" dries up, the ending is predictable - at best for her, they will kick in the tail ... and, "God forbid," she tries to steal or shit something from the master's table, out of habit - they won't stand on ceremony, they will bang in any available way. The only surprising thing is why the former household members still haven't gotten rid of it, but resignedly feed them, allow them to "rat", bite themselves, bring "infection" and continue to listen to all this "nonsense". No, this is not tolerance, that is great stupidity. This is nothing new. request

      "Traitors are not loved anywhere. They are only used." (C) Dominique Strauss-Kahn, 10th Managing Director of the IMF
      1. apro
        apro 4 September 2020 15: 23 New
        +7
        Dear Lexus. It's simple. This pug. Has tied its values ​​to the whole apartment. Today most want to be such cool businessmen. To have a bigger bob and to spit on society. Option from the movie kin dza dza ...
  • paul3390
    paul3390 4 September 2020 10: 33 New
    19
    It's just that the main thing for our leaders is to make money, immediately and more. And also - to keep already stolen and pricked in the West. How, in such conditions, can one expect that they will act in the interests of the Motherland, and not their own, so hard-stolen money? Alas, outright enemies of the people and traitors are now in power .. And the sooner we realize all this, the better for us.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 4 September 2020 14: 35 New
      20
      for our tops, the main thing is to gain loot, immediately and more

      It is not enough for them "Kalashny row" - they already want to enter Paradise on someone else's "good". We decided it was time.

      And the sooner we realize all this, the better for us.

      It is regrettable that, often, one cannot do without the "help" of misfortune ...
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 4 September 2020 10: 40 New
    +7
    A cry of despair. And I (the author) understand.
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 4 September 2020 10: 44 New
    10
    Unfortunately, almost the entire power elite in our country is pro-Western, there are no real patriots of Russia, and therefore we respond to every slap in the face, provocation only by expressing concern !!!
  • Alexga
    Alexga 4 September 2020 10: 46 New
    15
    But there is nothing to object to the article. Each point is justified, the reasons may not be fully spelled out, but the words about the airbag stored over the hill explain everything. It is outrageous that the policy of the state and its money are not allies in this war. But there is an open war going on, and not only an economic one. It is beautifully said about the WTO, anyone familiar with the calculator and having read the WTO rules will immediately say that this brings little benefit to Russia. By Russia I mean the state, not the oligarchy.
    1. your1970
      your1970 6 September 2020 00: 07 New
      -3
      Quote: AlexGa
      It is beautifully said about the WTO, anyone familiar with the calculator and having read the WTO rules will immediately say that this brings little benefit to Russia.
      - In what year were the Jackson-Vanik sanctions imposed in 1974 lifted?
      Before writing about the WTO, study the question a little ...
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 4 September 2020 10: 51 New
    +2
    And I wonder why foreign doctors were not invited to Omsk
    What would change? They would have found it anyway.
    1. Asad
      Asad 5 September 2020 08: 13 New
      -1
      So doctors flew in on a German plane, it was not the movers who took him away!
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 4 September 2020 10: 55 New
    +3
    Yes, all the actions of the West have been known for a long time, and they do not differ in variety, everything is according to the "checklist". But it began long ago and not 50 years ago, but much earlier, back in 1848, after the publication of the "Communist Manifesto" in Landon. All the socialists, communists and other "ists" jumped for joy and began to prepare the "World Revolution". Parties, circles, newspapers, rallies - and everything is publicly publicized, and the only conclusion is "capitalism will die." But the capitalists are not fools, and even with a lot of money and resources. And they understood what would happen to them if they did not oppose "communism" with their "anti-communism", which they did and are still doing, quietly and silently, on a scientific basis, but having worked out everything to the smallest detail, and we are communist socialists this round lost.
  • mark2
    mark2 4 September 2020 11: 08 New
    12
    All the questions posed can be answered in one way: proud rulers emerge from a proud nation. If the people have lost their sense of pride, then the rulers will be appropriate.
  • iouris
    iouris 4 September 2020 11: 12 New
    +6
    Quote: "... why did not they invite foreign doctors to Omsk, why did they not take control tests from Navalny in the foreign presence, why did not take the necessary actions with his accompanying persons, why, why ..." End of quote.
    Guys, you already understand that you live in a non-sovereign state, and are already used to the fact that "foreigners" are obliged to control your every sneeze. Congratulations. This is a new quality. Further, the process will go even faster.
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 4 September 2020 11: 14 New
    +4
    Quote: Leha667
    Are you not afraid that they will come for you?)))

    are not afraid that the Country will ask, you to whom ?
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 4 September 2020 11: 18 New
    10
    And what WE wanted, what is the pop, so is the parish. Look at the cadre, a lot of friends, nepotism, sycophancy, kinship, and there is nothing to say about professionalism, thieving, corrupt ministers, governors, heads of agencies, all these people are the president's personnel reserve. Philologists, journalists are engaged in industry, space, there technicians not all can be entrusted with leadership, and even from the humanities, furniture makers in general, the wrong sense. There is no good expectation, all this is chatter, fairy tales, promises without fulfillment.
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  • 1536
    1536 4 September 2020 11: 27 New
    +2
    I completely agree with the author! Only all this will continue until our right hand does not know what the left is doing.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 4 September 2020 11: 43 New
    10
    The toothlessness of our policy is dictated by the conditions of the governments of the countries in whose banks the money of our elites is, while our oligarchs and bureaucrats with dual citizenship do not show their teeth, and who is not interested in the legality of these accounts.
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  • U-58
    U-58 4 September 2020 11: 50 New
    +9
    There is no doubt that multi-moves are described.
    We can only evaluate them. Those who are in power, carry them out, and cut coupons.
    Why people don't get anything from these "operations" is a big question.
    One thing is clear: the authorities are completely unaccountable and with impunity doing their affairs for themselves ["members of the government"], calling them a type of state.
    That's why I don't vote for "these" ....
    1. Gust
      Gust 4 September 2020 12: 19 New
      -8
      Quote: U-58
      One thing is clear: the authorities are completely unaccountable and with impunity doing their affairs for themselves ["members of the government"], calling them a type of state.

      I will tell you a secret that ANY power of EACH state is engaged in this, with no exceptions... So do not reflect on this, this is a harsh reality on our planet.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 4 September 2020 14: 21 New
        +6
        I do not quite agree with you - If the authorities set a vector for the sake of why to tighten their belts, then this is normal (for example Korea and Japan, their vector is high-tech and for the sake of it they made the state a manual dog of corporations, while not forgetting about the people in the country). -vector seems to be a raid without end and then who will further hide and bolt on the population. There is a difference however. Plus, in general, nowhere was our leaders voiced the purpose for which, well, abstract socially oriented business and so on in the style of kindergarten and leopold is not even funny to hear. For years we have been standing still, so the task is to stand and be milked like a cow in cost.
  • Mihail55
    Mihail55 4 September 2020 12: 08 New
    11
    Well done author! Although the next portion of salt on the wound ... Year after year passes, and we have all the new programs ... programs! We already need gas less and less, and in return what is for export? GALOSI ???
  • Private89
    Private89 4 September 2020 12: 31 New
    +9
    I don’t understand that the author is so surprised if the task is not to defend the interests of, okay, the people, the country, where the result will come from, but they are doing well, they have other concerns, Courchevel, Rublevka. 30 years of national betrayal continues.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 4 September 2020 12: 34 New
    +9
    Lies, theft, excessive appetites, the separation of politics from the interests of the citizens of the state, lack of personal responsibility for mistakes and ineffective management, deep-rooted paternalism of thinking, chronic verbiage of the elites. The list could be continued - all this kills and exudes our state abruptly "Novichok".
  • Lysik001
    Lysik001 4 September 2020 12: 51 New
    +9
    There is nothing to object! All the facts are crying out! And Lavrov pushes all concerns! So they will slap us on the cheeks! And all because of the strong ties of our elite with the West! There they have everything! Real estate, deposits, children learn! Therefore, they do not escalate. Turn up your cheeks Russia!
  • Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 4 September 2020 13: 02 New
    +6
    everything is so ... the author is right ... the west understands only strength ... and we have nothing to fear, they have already taken away all assets and resources ... in general, it is clear why we do not answer, this government has accounts, villas, children and the future ... why should they swear)
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 4 September 2020 14: 11 New
      -11 qualifying.
      So what's up? You are not forbidden to buy villas, teach children and build a future in the west. Envy is not a reason to swear. No.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 4 September 2020 18: 58 New
        +5
        What's the matter? And the fact that the people have no money to buy villas and get medical treatment abroad, all the money was seized by those at the trough. For them, power is a source of enrichment, so they will simply kill or imprison anyone who will undermine their power.
  • alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 4 September 2020 13: 18 New
    +7
    Article plus. succinctly and succinctly. only it is necessary to indicate the specific names of who has been in charge of the country for 20 years and for what successes the laurels received a gertrude.
    1. iouris
      iouris 4 September 2020 13: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: Alex aircraft
      for what successes Lavrov also received a gertrude ..

      What's this. Shoigu received the highest military order of the Order of Malta back in 2012. The order is very interesting: it secretly deals with the finances of the Vatican. And who is the Jesuit (this is the Vatican intelligence)?
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 4 September 2020 14: 11 New
    11
    The article correctly poses the problem, and the answer was voiced too. I repeat for those in the tank. Toothless otvetki grows from the fact that business with these countries is a specific source of power for those in power and their business partners. How is it possible, because of some kind of rogue, to a respected person, the dynamics on the accounts can not be spoiled! Hence the bleak conclusion that the authorities wanted to chhat on the population if profit looms here and now. It's not enough for us 61% of the salary, it will be at 70%, and you will still learn how to sew cowards in large quantities yourself, and in the provinces they are already sewing because work and money are yok. As we ourselves allow ourselves to be treated, we will be treated as an axiom from the day of the creation of the world. And I doubt very much that the situation can be corrected in an evolutionary way, there is generally no systemic educational work in this direction, the change is being prepared according to the principles of take here and now. In the Russian Federation, even the Maidan from the outside does not need to be muddied, everything is working well, the right people artificially slow down growth and have rubles, fooling uraodobryams in full swing, the population is decreasing, so even better, we will bring Gaster to pay them less and no rights. And it is naive to expect evolution that these will take over the country, rather mothball the current situation and dump on the booty, leaving the kids to continue the banquet.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 4 September 2020 14: 28 New
    +7
    Everything is correct with PACE .. they cough up money .. to sit there with a smart look ..
    Actually - who had any doubts that our bureaucrats were warmed by the presence there for our money ??

    The IOC and WADA .. at first, they also unlocked, then it turned out that everything in the case was slapped to us .. they themselves admitted in the end .. so there is no one to blame, to the rum themselves ..

    Georgia .. And what about Georgia, when we buy the entire European sanction without palette from Lukashenka .. which he himself recently openly stated .. It's only for the herd, these conversations on TV, how everything will be crushed by a tractor, etc. money makes us ..

    WTO .. ​​metallurgists won / Russia lost ..
    Here again everything is simple .. those same "metallurgists" are associated with the Kremlin organized criminal group .. and then everything goes into the right pocket .. And what there is "Russia" lost - it falls on the shoulders of the people .. Well, the president compensates for it from his own pocket. ...

    And so on all issues in the country ..
    So yes - this is another "multi-move" you know who .. and we are toothless .. because we have been tolerating this (him) for two decades already ..
  • WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 4 September 2020 16: 12 New
    12
    The author, you have written an article and, probably, quite an adult and not stupid person, but truly "for every wise man there is enough simplicity."
    Your questions, Author, is the very simplicity.
    How can you not understand, dear author, that the USSR is over. Together with the USSR, the "self" of my country - Russia ended.
    There is no more of it, I mean not the country, it is, but there is no trace of that exceptional feature that distinguished the RSFSR as part of the USSR from the rest of the world.
    A simple thought will never reach our citizens in general, and many readers of VO in particular - we are residents of a third-rate capitalist state located on the periphery of civilizational development.
    The Peripheral Empire is who we are. And so it has been for centuries. And there were objective reasons for that, which there is neither time nor desire to describe - browse the Web, they will tell you.
    After a passionate explosion, the energy of which was skillfully used by the party led by the smartest man of its era (I'm talking about Lenin, if anything), a "rollback" came, because, as one person said: "In Russia, a lot can change in 50 years, but nothing will change for 200 "(I can not vouch for the accuracy of the quote).
    Hence the following conclusions follow:
    1. Russia slipped safely in its socio-political development somewhere in the beginning of the last century.
    2. The elite of Russia, for the most part, is oriented exclusively towards the West, and this is normal for a country with post-Soviet thinking.
    3. The elite of Russia, for the most part, deeply does not care about its own people, and this is normal for a country with a monarchist mentality.
    4. As a consequence of points 1 - 3, our country begins to dissolve in the global world and lose its identity, because if the country is not needed by those who make decisions, it is the end.

    Why should the representatives of the "elita" fight for the interests of Russia if they plan to live "beyond the hill" - was it not for this that their "relatives" were "agitating" perestroika? It is for this, my dear Author.
    And yet - I assure you - they drink wine without ammonia.

    What countermeasures can we apply?
    Until an ideology is developed, none. That is, absolutely.
    For any struggle without ideology can be boldly likened to a stupid drunkenness with a fight - there is a lot of noise, little sense and the end is a little predictable.

    Who, where and when will develop an integral, consistent and truly popular plan for the development of the country, which will help to push the stop-crane of the cheerful train that is taking us to the destroyed bridge?
    This is a question of questions. An archival question.
    I think so.
  • Valeriy A. Proskournin
    Valeriy A. Proskournin 4 September 2020 16: 15 New
    +4
    in my opinion - the reaction of the Russian Foreign Ministry is absolutely moronic!
    The West arrives, and the Foreign Ministry makes excuses, as if there is still fault ...
    such a line of behavior is absolutely unproductive and vicious!
    simultaneously with the transfer of the patient to Germany, documents were sent, testifying about his condition and about the measures taken, therefore, initially, the "demands of the" Germans "to conduct an investigation" is absurd that it is necessary to DEMONSTRATE, and not call for some kind of dialogue, ask for some data on the current state of the patient, to explain what is informational and what is medical there - this is NOT INTERESTED TO ANYONE! ..
    In response, the Russian side would have to PUBLICALLY provide a complete list of already transferred documents and at the same time INTRODUCT albeit minimal, but still preventive SANCTIONS - not to warn about "possible", but immediately introduce, and if this is not the case, then there is a bad assumption about a very serious dependence of the Russian Federation on the West, one that forces humiliation, why all sorts of Poles there laughingly and say that Russia is not a great country, but a "great problem" ... (((
    in order to prevent humpbacked words addressed to you, you need to act not pseudo-politely-diplomatically, but preventively, tough, uncompromisingly accusing the Germans in this case of working for the public and deceiving ...
    MFA gentlemen, urgently change the rhetoric from justifying to overwhelming! ..
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 4 September 2020 17: 22 New
    +6
    And I wonder why they didn’t invite foreign doctors to Omsk, why they didn’t take control tests from Navalny in a foreign presence, why they didn’t take the necessary actions with his attendants, why, why ... What, the first time such a provocation?


    Everyone is interested. But there is no answer. Or is there? but it is not customary to talk about him ...
    But there are stupid statements by the media, such as "I trawled myself" and "glyke ...... shock"

    And for everything else: the famous words of Putin: "You need to rejoice"
    That is, money does not smell.
    See Endogan, whom we recognized as an accomplice of the terrorists who shot down our plane, and we are selling him gas and C400. And we are ready to sell even more. We'll sell what he wants. Su 35, 57, MI, Armata ....

    This is somewhat true. But then we must at least give a refutation. Or?
    For a zombie population, it will do ...
  • Husit
    Husit 4 September 2020 17: 32 New
    -12 qualifying.
    Someone disagrees with the author? Argument, just don't need statements like: "You don't understand", "This is a multi-move"

    I disagree ! !!! soldier
    I remember before the collapse of the USSR, too, such a topic ran .. Enough to feed anyone, etc. (I think it’s not worth writing what prizoshlo write). ...
    We are Russians! And not the Chinese and not the Jews with the Angosaxons! We are different and maybe that's why God is with us?
    Punishes severely, but even at the most critical moment helps to survive ..!
    Our mission is to see such ridges to break all evil in the world and we are able to create weapons for this and we have the strength of mind to fight and resist. hi
    And whoever does not agree with this is fleeing to sugary Europe, cunning America, etc. And we do not regret it, it becomes easier to breathe!
    It's time to understand EVERYONE in the world and lag behind Russia, trying to figure out and buy us.
    You can't understand Russia with your mind, you can't measure it with an yardstick ... RUSSIA CAN ONLY BE BELIEVED!
  • parusnik
    parusnik 4 September 2020 18: 44 New
    +4
    Toothlessness, ill-conceivedness ... No, everything is thought out ... We wanted to integrate into the Western world, integrated and therefore accepted its rules of the game, according to these rules Russia plays ... with its own variations ...
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 4 September 2020 20: 49 New
    +2
    It’s like a hall with mirrors in front of us, and at the tables we see players playing. Some bluff, others impudently twist. But we only see this, and nothing can be changed. Relax friends and breathe freely.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 September 2020 22: 20 New
    +1
    Wonderful correct pathos of the article! ..But after 1917 Russia does not have an adequate sovereign policy. "Our" tangerines have long merged all the national interests of Russia.
    1. Iskazi
      Iskazi 5 September 2020 06: 17 New
      +1
      her 17th definitely was not ... but there were opportunities that loved
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 5 September 2020 06: 15 New
    +3
    the author correctly puts the accents, unfortunately even such good allies as the army and the navy are completely useless in the absence of friendship with their heads ... Unfortunately, the current leadership of the country is "friends" with other heads, but not with its own ..., of course, you can believe in HPP, Mnogohodovki, etc., etc., but the bottom line is that the country is under control, so there are so many ridiculous gestures .... the entire Russian "elita" is held by ya..tsa, including the guarantor and others like him, the puppet theater. ..., and nothing else can be., there is nothing to bite, and no one
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 5 September 2020 12: 06 New
    +1
    I don't think one should be surprised at Russia's toothlessness. Who drives, he calls the tune. You cannot show your teeth to your teachers and patrons. After all, with our government in the West, kids study and work, apartments have been bought, money has been piled up. If you snarl, they can also take away your favor. Hence this policy. It never surprised me. That's why our weapons are confusing. Why improve them? Indeed, in case of war, people will use them. But whether these PEOPLE will give an order to use them is a big question. The kids can get hurt there!
  • bk0010
    bk0010 5 September 2020 14: 32 New
    0
    Only metallurgists won from the WTO.
    But no! They were indeed among those who pulled us into the WTO. However, almost as soon as we got there, Mitall dropped the prices and Russian buyers began to take Indian metal. How then did our metallurgists "burn out", even something got into the press! And I was happy: there is justice in life: what they prepared for others, felt on themselves.
  • Tarasios
    Tarasios 5 September 2020 18: 26 New
    +2
    According to "Bulk" - what to send it to Germany, or somewhere else there, what not to send - would be the same afterbirth. For in the West, they obviously use magic crystal balls, which makes it possible to instantly and unambiguously determine the cause and the culprit. Sometimes even before the event itself;))
    Here. And so they sent him to Germany - and everything, "all-at once-knowing" put under the rug a variant where Putin, giggling demonically, personally made his way into Navalny's ward at night and "Novichok" processed his panties;)
  • nnz226
    nnz226 5 September 2020 21: 25 New
    +3
    I agree with the author! The Foreign Ministry is chewing snot, - just passed the infa about the poisoning of the Skripals, the Foreign Ministry immediately had to declare small Britain a terrorist state (the fact of poisoning Russian citizens is undeniable) and not recommend visiting this territory, by analogy with Somalia! And in real life ?! The bleating of the Foreign Ministry lambs and the persecution of our diplomats + sanctions! The state turns a blind eye to the tricks of local "businessmen". Crimea is Russia, someone denies ?! Gref - yes! Sberbank's business interests are more important to him than the country's Constitution! Why isn't it exploring the southern coast of the Laptev Sea ?!
    1. Magus
      Magus 6 September 2020 02: 18 New
      10
      Quote: nnz226
      The bleating of the Foreign Ministry lambs and the persecution of our diplomats + sanctions!

      I agree with you. But what can the foreign policy department do if our state keeps its savings in foreign securities? Plus a lot more ...
  • Ryusey
    Ryusey 6 September 2020 09: 35 New
    0
    Successfully misinforming the enemy about your weakness, you will inevitably convince some of your allies ...
  • tochila
    tochila 6 September 2020 17: 50 New
    +1
    Golden words !!! Knock out in granite and install in front of the Foreign Ministry! We have neither allies nor partners !!! There are those who owe us the grave of our lives !!!! It's time to prepare collectors !!!
  • Incompetent
    Incompetent 7 September 2020 07: 36 New
    0
    1. Refuse to participate in the Olympiad. 2. Introduce sanctions against IOC members. 3. Stop payments to the IOC. 4. Initiate a criminal case against members of the IOC for insulting the symbols of Russia.

    Yeah, close the iron curtain and fall apart like the USSR! laughing
    Don't talk nonsense! We cannot go to extremes! Russia cannot break off cooperation with the West because it takes all the necessary technologies from them and it is not profitable for us to spoil relations, and we are still far from self-sufficiency. It's like the situation with Russia and Ukraine! Ukraine closed itself off from Russia and suffered that the IMF is on the needle
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 September 2020 16: 22 New
    +1
    The West is waging a war against Russia, not a declared one. Based on this, they believe that the war is like a war. In Russia, a huge part of the elite who rules, sees their whole existence in the West. Hence it turns out, as in the Odessa song of the century before last, a step forward and two back. This is bad and very dangerous.
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 8 September 2020 23: 18 New
    -1
    Why is private interest higher than public interest? Where else is that in a major power?

    You may be surprised, but EVERYWHERE !!!
    In the United States, in general, the entire state is just a superstructure, which was created in order to hang noodles on the population. a similar situation is in Germany, Great Britain, France, and in South Korea the state is generally 17 families who rule this very country. About African countries, and without my comment, everything is clear - ordinary private shops, just smaller than others.
  • Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 11 September 2020 05: 44 New
    -1
    I do not buy Georgian wines because of the Georgian statement on "Rustavi-2"

    but at the same time around you 90% of other imports are from countries from which the most various, including unpleasant statements are made.

    just ostentatious patriotism allows you to refuse wine, but from imported phones, televisions, household appliances in general, the Internet, hygiene products, clothes, foreign movies and music, etc. etc., does not allow, because you yourself know why.
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 18 October 2020 22: 28 New
    0
    Everyone imagines himself to be a strategist, seeing the battle from the side. Crap !!!