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Stalin's secrets - will they ever be revealed?

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Hardly among historical personalities who have left a significant mark on the fate of our Fatherland, there is a figure about whom as much has been written as about Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. A whole library - from more or less serious scientific research to a heap of fiction. With all this, it is he who is a statesman and leader, regarding whom to this day there is, perhaps, the greatest number of questions, riddles and secrets.

Most likely, the roots of this paradox lie in the fact that in our country (and in the world as a whole) there are several not just different, but, rather, mutually exclusive views on Stalin, his life and work. Alas, within the framework of each of them, his actions, decisions, words and even thoughts are given a completely unambiguous interpretation, under which its adherents manage to "fit" everything and everyone. Here is one of them: "Stalin is a bloody tyrant, paranoidly obsessed with power!" Consequently, everything that he undertook both while occupying the highest posts in the Soviet Union and on his way to them was dictated only by the desire to exercise his will over millions of people and the desire to stay “at the top”. The point of view is not just simplistic, but squalid - but how many people hold it!

However, for someone, Joseph Vissarionovich is a great Leader, a kind of embodiment of omniscience and omnipotence, an infallible and inaccessible to human understanding giant. The trouble with this view of Stalin (as well as the previous one) is that, at the same time, he is perceived not as a living person with his own beliefs and delusions, virtues and weaknesses, sympathies and antipathies, but as a kind of abstract superhuman Power. It's just that some consider this power black and evil, while others - good and radiant.

I am convinced that it is precisely such extremely primitized approaches that have generated a situation as a result of which much more lies and frank inventions are said and written about Stalin than truth. It would seem that his life passed surrounded by many associates, subordinates, members of the "inner circle". Many of them were very intelligent people who left behind memoirs and other literary works. And what? All the same thick fog in which only the general outlines of the titanic figure are dimly seen.

As soon as you start to peer more closely, everything becomes unsteady and deceiving, details are lost and, more often than not, turn out to be not at all what they originally saw. I remember very well how my path to the book "Comrade Stalin is a Person without a Cult" began. From the desire to see a person in this person, to try to comprehend and comprehend his true motives, motives, aspirations. And, first of all, to figure out what is the share of truth in the "well-known" and "absolutely reliable" statements about him.

Well, and, of course, try to get closer to solving at least the main mysteries associated with Stalin and his time. Why did the catastrophe happen on June 22, 1941, is there a personal fault of the Supreme Commander, and what could it be? In the pre-war "purges" of the Red Army, or in the fact that they were not brought to an end? What was behind the "struggle against the enemies of the people" that unfolded in the USSR - "Stalin's desire to destroy political opponents", as some are trying to assert, or a sober, pragmatic calculation aimed at the benefit of a huge country and, moreover, justified by very specific reasons?

Why did Stalin trust the allies so much in World War II, and what did he feel when his trust was betrayed by them in the most insidious way? What did he intend to do in the mid to late 50s of the last century? To deliver a crushing military blow to the West, or simply to force it to reckon with the Soviet Union as an equal, forever abandoning the plans to conquer our country? What could our world have become if the Stalinist plans of that period had been fully realized?

Generally speaking, the last years of Iosif Vissarionovich's life are one continuous mystery, an equation with many unknowns, delving deeper into which, you come across more and more Xs. How could he have missed a conspiracy being prepared against him? Why was his murder possible - and was it a murder? What happened in these years, months and days between Stalin, his closest associates, his own son Vasily? What were they preparing the country and the whole world for? But this is far from a complete list of mysteries that have remained unsolved to this day.

I will not even try to assert that the book, which has developed as a result of reflections on these topics, the search for answers to the above and many other questions, contains some kind of absolute truth, some discoveries that “finally shed light” on something. Like any author who respects my readers and their right to personal opinion, I simply shared with them my own conclusions and conclusions, leaving the right for anyone who picks up another book about Stalin to think, doubt and independently continue to further search for answers. I just tried to substantiate each of my own assumptions with arguments, facts, figures, quotes and excerpts from real documents.

"Comrade Stalin is a person without a cult" in no way is it the key to unraveling the secrets of the person about whom it was written and his time. This is just an attempt to take one more step towards their comprehension.
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  1. Clear
    Clear 3 September 2020 09: 41 New
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    For me, everything is simple and clear.
    Russia's enemies say
    "Stalin is a bloody tyrant, paranoidly obsessed with power!"


    Friends of Russia (and personally I) affirm that
    Joseph Vissarionovich - the great Leader
    1. Far B
      Far B 3 September 2020 09: 52 New
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      And our current helmsmen give quite negative assessments to Comrade Stalin. So who are they - our current helmsmen?
      1. Clear
        Clear 3 September 2020 09: 55 New
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        Quote: Far In
        And our current helmsmen give quite negative assessments to Comrade Stalin. So who are they - our current helmsmen?

        I don’t know who your helmsmen are. Ours are calm.
        1. Ragnar Lodbrok
          Ragnar Lodbrok 3 September 2020 09: 59 New
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          For me, the historical role of Stalin lies in one well-known phrase-
          "Stalin accepted Russia with a plow, and left with an atomic bomb"
          1. Temples
            Temples 3 September 2020 18: 01 New
            -1
            A Russian person cannot live without faith.
            Jesus is the head of our church.
            He said don't make yourself an idol ...

            The Tsar was God's protege on the Russian land.
            So the Russian people thought.

            Therefore, the kings were loved and deified.

            The Russian people treated Stalin like a tsar, like an autocrat. Who he was in fact.

            And those who pour dirt on our rulers are nits.

            Our autocrat Stalin did a lot for the revival of Russia.

            There were also repressions.

            And where are they not?

            And the first Russian satellite.
            And the apartments are free, the first Russians.

            And the Russians broke the Germans with the Europeans.

            So much for Stalin.
            1. DPN
              DPN 3 September 2020 19: 38 New
              +7
              I don't believe in God, but here it is entirely on YOUR side, Stalin saved the country, and JUDAS - Gorbachev and Yeltsin destroyed it
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 3 September 2020 22: 08 New
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                JUDAS - Gorbachev and Yeltsin destroyed it

                Politically correct so. As if "accidentally", they forgot to remember their political "son of a bastard", who bestowed the first with awards and boarding houses, and the second immortalized in epic "centers". As the saying goes, "moth in the closet" was not noticed. Or they pretended to be. The "Judas affair", meanwhile, is only gaining momentum.
              2. Vilensky
                Vilensky 5 September 2020 08: 58 New
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                I don’t believe in god

                This is your personal tragedy.
                And about Stalin and other great people in the Bible more than two thousand years ago it was written:
                -Do not rely on princes, on the sons of mankind, in them there is no salvation (Do not rely on princes [rulers], in the sons of men in whom there is no salvation).
                -Is his spirit come forth, and he will return to his land: on that day all his thoughts will perish (Psalm 145: 3,4).
                NOBODY has yet refuted these words, they are strictly fulfilled, and everything that is written in the Bible is TRUE.
        2. Far B
          Far B 3 September 2020 10: 01 New
          10
          Ours are calm
          Uh-huh: “Stalin and his entourage really deserve many well-founded accusations. We remember the crimes committed by the regime against its own people, and the horrors of mass repressions "(c) VV Putin. About" These are not our methods "remind?
          1. Clear
            Clear 3 September 2020 10: 11 New
            -1
            Quote: Far In
            Ours are calm
            Uh-huh: “Stalin and his entourage really deserve many well-founded accusations. We remember the crimes committed by the regime against its own people, and the horrors of mass repressions "(c) VV Putin. About" These are not our methods "remind?

            If you are talking about Putin, then yes, earlier he spoke about the severity of Stalinist repressions and their consequences for Russia, although he noted his successes in the industrialization of the country, but at the same time, Putin recently said that "excessive demonization of Stalin" is nothing more than one of the ways to attack Russia.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 3 September 2020 11: 04 New
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              This was said by two different Putin.
              1. sergo1914
                sergo1914 3 September 2020 11: 38 New
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                Quote: Pereira
                This was said by two different Putin.


                How about pension reform?
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 3 September 2020 17: 34 New
                  +3
                  It is not excluded.
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 3 September 2020 20: 05 New
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              Quote: Clear
              ...... earlier he spoke about the severity of the Stalinist repressions and their consequences for Russia, although he noted his successes in the industrialization of the country, but at the same time, Putin recently said that "excessive demonization of Stalin" is nothing more than one from the ways of attack on Russia.
              recently also talked about the importance of remembering history and the inadmissibility of rewriting. Although it was not directly about Stalin, it was about Stalin's time.
              When will it be clear that it is impossible to take advantage of the achievements of the USSR and blame the USSR and Stalin at the same time.
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 3 September 2020 22: 16 New
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                Dmitry, welcome! hi

                recently also talked about the importance of remembering history ...

                Carried a "thought" and did not convey. Gave a "bunch", accusing the damned "galoshes" of this.

                When will it be clear

                When the legs stop reaching the stool. They say that at this moment "all life flashes before my eyes." I guess right after the "skater" flashed by.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 3 September 2020 22: 49 New
                  +1
                  And good evening to you hi ! We must look for a plot. There the beginning was such that I thought, now it will condemn, denounce the 90s, when it began specifically ..... but everything was impersonal so far.
                  ...... about. galoshes not this time
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 4 September 2020 13: 36 New
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                Quote: Reptiloid
                recently also talked about the importance of remembering history and the inadmissibility of rewriting.

                I would like the truth, otherwise we are learning the History rewritten by Khrushchev, then described by Solzhenitsyn. He himself drapes the Mausoleum, is this not a rewriting ??
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 4 September 2020 14: 50 New
                  +3
                  There is a contradiction in these actions, which they stubbornly refuse to notice at the top, as well as many others who feel sorry for the lost Russia. I keep hoping that the epiphany should come. But no! With prihvatizatory it is clear - they have everything prepared over the hill, if anything - they go there instantly. But with this ambiguity, there is no development for Russia.
            3. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 36 New
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              But the demonization according to Putin seems to benefit this country?
          2. CSKA
            CSKA 7 September 2020 15: 22 New
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            Quote: Far In
            Uh-huh: “Stalin and his entourage really deserve many well-founded accusations. We remember the crimes committed by the regime against its own people, and the horrors of mass repressions "(c) VV Putin. About" These are not our methods "remind?

            ))))))) And where is there even one word of untruth?
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 September 2020 10: 05 New
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        Quote: Far In
        So who are they - our current helmsmen?

        The capitalists.
        1. Van 16
          Van 16 3 September 2020 10: 41 New
          +6
          "Capitalists"
          If. For the most part, these are just officials who have seized on cash flows. And selected mainly on the basis of personal loyalty.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 3 September 2020 11: 23 New
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            Quote: Van 16
            For the most part, these are just officials who have seized on cash flows.

            You are right. But officials are also capitalists. Only their work is different, "servicing capital".
          2. Alf
            Alf 3 September 2020 18: 38 New
            +4
            Quote: Van 16
            "Capitalists"
            If. For the most part, these are just officials who have seized on cash flows. And selected mainly on the basis of personal loyalty.

            And WHO selects officials? WHO says every year that the work of the government is satisfied?
            1. Van 16
              Van 16 3 September 2020 21: 01 New
              +6
              Weird question. President Putin, of course. Who is fully responsible for the actions of their ministers and other leaders. Accordingly, the conclusion that it is he who is the main official-capitalist. Something like this.
              1. Alf
                Alf 3 September 2020 21: 05 New
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                Quote: Van 16
                Weird question.

                This, as you said, "strange question" is not really strange at all. There are still many people, including those in VO, who, foaming at the mouth, prove that the president is not responsible for the ministers and that all the troubles come from them, and the president simply does not know anything and in general, he is white and fluffy.
                1. Van 16
                  Van 16 3 September 2020 21: 13 New
                  +3
                  Ah, got it. Yes, many people say that "the tsar is good, the boyars are bad," for various reasons. I believe that everyone should be "responsible for those whom he has tamed."
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 3 September 2020 22: 36 New
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                    ... everyone should be "responsible for those they have tamed"

                    hi Have you ever held a talking parrot? If not, then ask the lucky ones about its influence on family decisions. bully
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 4 September 2020 14: 33 New
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                    Quote: Van 16
                    Yes, many people say that "the tsar is good, the boyars are bad," for various reasons.

                    Peter the Great was a bad tsar because he beat the boyars.
                2. Lexus
                  Lexus 3 September 2020 22: 24 New
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                  Ave, Alfus! You didn't understand anything! laughing The "organism" is paralyzed. "The talking head soars in the clouds." If you do not praise the "hands", they, before scratching the "nose" or filling the "mouth", can easily dig deeper into the "ass". bully
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 3 September 2020 23: 25 New
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                    Quote: lexus
                    Ave, Alfus! You didn't understand anything!

                    Ave! I didn't understand anything ??? Well, thank you, I will remember this opinion about me forever!
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 4 September 2020 01: 25 New
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                      I will remember this opinion about me for a century!

                      This means that we will also hoist Scarlet Aquila over the palace complex on Palatinus Hill and restore the supreme authority and power of the Forum! soldier

                      Do not bother, so break through
                      We will be alive - we will not die.
                      The deadline will come back
                      What we gave - we will return everything. (FROM)
                      "Vysily Tyorkin", poem, A. T. Tvardovsky
                    2. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 4 September 2020 14: 36 New
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                      Quote: Alf
                      I didn't understand anything ??? Well, thank you, I will remember this opinion about me forever!

                      So always, someone does not understand anything, but there are those who understand everything. Why should we naive Chukchi youths.
          3. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 38 New
            0
            What does this have to do with it? The capitalist is the owner of the means of production who exploits hired workers. And everything else is lyrics.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 4 September 2020 14: 17 New
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              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              The capitalist is the owner of the means of production

              bowels are means of production ?? wassat
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              exploiting employees

              skilled employees, and forced to finance their training and qualifications - i.e. the reproduction of labor is also capitalism, we have very little of it. In our country, only the TYPE of production relations is capitalist but not the economy.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 10: 32 New
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                Quote: aybolyt678
                Is the subsoil a means of production?

                Почему нет?
                Quote: aybolyt678
                skilled employees, and forced to finance their training and qualifications - i.e. reproduction of labor is also capitalism

                And actually what?
                Quote: aybolyt678
                we have very little of it.

                What is it like? The banana republics are also not very good at skilled workers. Does this mean that there is little capitalism? No, it doesn't. It's just that in the global division of labor, for one reason or another, they have fallen into the niche of banana production.
                Quote: aybolyt678
                In our country, only the TYPE of production relations is capitalist but not the economy

                This is sheer nonsense. Which is very fond of telling all sorts of olezha makarenka and other snotty adepts of capitalism. In principle, any economic system carries the remnants of the previous and the beginnings of the next.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 5 September 2020 20: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Is the subsoil a means of production?

                  Почему нет?

                  very simple why smile A commodity is a product of labor intended for exchange. Oil is a raw material, it exists, it is not produced but extracted, it is possible to call it a product of labor only with a stretch, in the part that is for exchange.
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  It's just that in the world division of labor, for one reason or another, they fell into the niche of banana production.
                  Can you please tell me who regulates this very global division of labor? Is it there voluntarily, forcibly, or should it be earned? laughing I would be grateful for the answer to this question smile

                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  those. reproduction of labor is also capitalism

                  And actually what?

                  And the fact that academic science is 30 years behind the leaders, and the capitalists of the banana and oil republics do not pull it
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 3 September 2020 11: 05 New
          +4
          For such people, a special word has long been invented - coompradors.
        3. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 4 September 2020 14: 09 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          So who are they - our current helmsmen?

          The capitalists.

          no need to call thieves and traitors a good word
      3. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 3 September 2020 10: 10 New
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        Quote: Far In
        And our current helmsmen give quite negative assessments to Comrade Stalin. So who are they - our current helmsmen?

        Traitors to the working people, accomplices of the overseas capitalists.
        1. novel66
          novel66 3 September 2020 11: 19 New
          -1
          bourgeois Trotskyists
      4. CSKA
        CSKA 7 September 2020 15: 19 New
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        Quote: Far In
        And our current helmsmen give quite negative assessments to Comrade Stalin.

        Examples in the studio.
        Quote: Far In
        So who are they - our current helmsmen?

        And who told you that your soviet opinion is true and only she alone is true?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 September 2020 10: 04 New
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      Quote: Clear
      For me, everything is simple and clear.
      Russia's enemies say
      "Stalin is a bloody tyrant, paranoidly obsessed with power!"


      Friends of Russia (and personally I) affirm that
      Joseph Vissarionovich - the great Leader

      Think right. But the enemies of Russia and the enemies in Russia, who destroyed and plundered the Union, Stalin is their enemy for them.
      1. depressant
        depressant 3 September 2020 11: 55 New
        +8
        The lot of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin fell not just an era of change, but a change in the socio-economic doctrine to one that had no prerequisites for social and production relations - a change unprecedented in history. For example, feudal relations arose in the depths of the slave-owning formation, and there were economic prerequisites for the change of the feudal side to the bourgeois in the form of a multitude of industries, their owners, collectives of workers, as well as banking capital gaining strength. The bourgeois revolution was natural. But the change of the feudal-bourgeois system, which has not yet managed to reach the peak of developed capitalism, which is purely conditionally capable of leading to the cultivation of elements of the socialist system in its depths (and this is impossible), to a sharply socialist system with a swing towards communism - history has never known such thought it was possible. Despite the works of utopians, the books of the classics of Marxism, the sentiments of the intelligentsia, the discontent of the workers and peasants, propaganda, etc. - all these are not economic prerequisites, grown in the depths of the old system. There were simply no economic prerequisites for socialism, and even more so for communism.
        As a result, Stalin had to deal with two layers of people. The first layer consisted of those who sincerely shared the ideas of communism, admitting socialism as a transitional form to it. I think there were not so many convinced people, real communists. The second layer was mentally far from the communist idea. This stratum of people was petty-bourgeois and, unlike the first, it was numerous and therefore offered serious resistance to the authorities even after the end of the Civil War. Stalin's tasks included the need to numerically increase the first, ideological layer and do everything to neutralize the resistance of the second - when secret, when obvious resistance of varying degrees of intensity, intensity and consequences for the state, as well as to convince those who doubt and hesitate in the justice of even a socialist idea. Expand the first layer by narrowing the second. With these two incredibly difficult and interrelated tasks, I.V. Stalin coped brilliantly. This was confirmed by the results of the Great Patriotic War.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 3 September 2020 20: 24 New
          +4
          ...... the results of the Great Patriotic War ...
          Good evening, Lyudmila! no Yes, before the war the fifth column in the country was destroyed, thanks to this, they won the Victory.
          But 20 years after the revolution, Trotsky wrote. that the bureaucracy will become an instrument of imperialism sooner or later, ... and Stalin knew about it. That is why there were purges and repressions.
          However, after the war, the nomenklatura and bureaucrats began to gain strength.
          Already in the 60s, alarming assessments of what was happening appeared in films and books ...
          1. depressant
            depressant 3 September 2020 21: 01 New
            +3
            Dmitry, I lived in Abkhazia. There, the Gorbachev era took on an awesome form: the party nomenclature openly merged with bandits, corrupt officials and openly fascist elements. Openly. Including local police and KGB. You, residents of Central Russia, did not see this, everything was veiled here. Therefore, Russia was deceived. Belovezhskaya Pushcha was a shock for the RSFSR, and the residents of the outskirts already knew that something like this would happen. There was no shock. And now I, living now in Central Russia, think: what am I not seeing? It is bad with the choice of the point of view.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 3 September 2020 21: 08 New
              +2
              ..... bad point of view ....
              probably worse. But, reading your big comments, I always note how much you notice, think about, share with us. For which I am grateful to you. love
        2. Motorist
          Motorist 3 September 2020 23: 39 New
          +1
          Depressant, hello! hi Make paragraphs in your long comments, please (once, or better - twice Enter) - it's hard to read.
          1. depressant
            depressant 3 September 2020 23: 51 New
            +3
            Colleague, thanks for reading)))
            I will consider your remark for the future. Sometimes I make paragraphs, but today I missed this moment, I confess))
            1. Motorist
              Motorist 4 September 2020 00: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: depressant
              thanks for reading

              I try to read all the thoughts of members of the forum under the article (news) that I chose. Alas, there is no time to read everything on the site. Your comments are especially interesting because there is a desire to look for alternative sources of information (it also takes time!). By the way, I have not yet understood the President's family tree, but I remember your request.
      2. Doctor
        Doctor 3 September 2020 14: 48 New
        -11
        Think right. But the enemies of Russia and the enemies in Russia, who destroyed and plundered the Union, Stalin is their enemy for them.

        You need to think consistently, as dialectics teaches.

        And when assessing the personality of Comrade Stalin, one must clearly remember that

        Stalin and other comrades destroyed Russia earlier,

        than the enemies of Russia and enemies in Russia destroyed the Union.
        1. zenion
          zenion 3 September 2020 15: 50 New
          +6
          Arzt. Neither Lenin nor Stalin destroyed Russia. Russia was destroyed by the bourgeoisie and everything went to the point that Russia could not exist. And Russia and almost all of its territory were saved by the Bolsheviks. They drove the foreigners out of the territory of Russia and returned to Russia its borders. The Bolsheviks did what neither the empire nor the bourgeoisie could do. It is a pity that you are reading history skipping many pages.
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 3 September 2020 17: 43 New
            -2
            Arzt. Neither Lenin nor Stalin destroyed Russia. Russia was destroyed by the bourgeoisie and everything went to the point that Russia could not exist. And Russia and almost all of its territory were saved by the Bolsheviks. They drove the foreigners out of the territory of Russia and returned to Russia its borders. The Bolsheviks did what neither the empire nor the bourgeoisie could do. It is a pity that you are reading history skipping many pages.

            The bourgeoisie forced the tsar to abdicate. This is bad, but legal. Any king can renounce.

            And then it was created Temporary Government and the process of forming the Parliament began. A normal representative body with the participation of major populations.

            But the Bolsheviks rudely interrupted this process by carrying out the October Revolution.
            It illegal an action like the dissolution of the Reichstag or the Ukrainian Maidan.

            As a result of the actions of the Bolsheviks, Russia received the Civil War instead of the Parliamentary Republic.
            1. Sergey Zhikharev
              Sergey Zhikharev 4 September 2020 21: 27 New
              0
              The bourgeoisie forced the tsar to abdicate. This is bad, but legal. Any king can renounce.

              During the war, and not at the time of defeats - then it could still be justified, we remove the commander-in-chief. What is not treason?
              So the king himself, voluntarily abdicated, or was he forced?
              1. Doctor
                Doctor 4 September 2020 22: 27 New
                +1
                So the king himself, voluntarily abdicated, or was he forced?

                Forced. More precisely, convinced. Of course, there was a painful struggle with myself. But there is no crime in the very fact of renunciation.
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 3 September 2020 20: 28 New
            +2
            ..... Russia was destroyed by the bourgeoisie. ...
            And not only that. Even relatives were against the weak-willed Tsar and rejoiced in the Provisional Government, negative incapable of anything. Among other things, the hierarchs of the Church sent congratulatory telegrams, which are now preserved.
          3. CSKA
            CSKA 7 September 2020 15: 26 New
            0
            Quote: zenion
            And Russia and almost all of its territory were saved by the Bolsheviks. They drove foreigners out of the territory of Russia and returned to Russia its borders.

            Yeah, but for one thing, they created washed out states, which included the ancestral lands of Russia.
            Quote: zenion
            The Bolsheviks did what neither the empire nor the bourgeoisie could do.

            What did they do?
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 42 New
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          Quote: Arzt
          You need to think consistently, as dialectics teaches.
          Stalin and other comrades destroyed Russia earlier,

          What was this? Grass, mushrooms or other substances?
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 4 September 2020 00: 04 New
            0
            What was this? Grass, mushrooms or other substances?

            There was such a country - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
            And then comrades Gorbachev and Yeltsin came and this country was gone.

            But BEFORE that ...

            There was such a country - the Russian Empire.
            And then comrades Lenin and Stalin came and this country was gone.
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 3 September 2020 11: 23 New
      -7
      For me, everything is simple and clear.
      Russia's enemies say
      "Stalin is a bloody tyrant, paranoidly obsessed with power!"


      Friends of Russia (and personally I) affirm that
      Joseph Vissarionovich - the great Leader
      Reply


      And the Truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.
      It is quite possible to be a Great Leader and at the same time a tyrant.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 September 2020 15: 51 New
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        Quote: Arzt
        It is quite possible to be a Great Leader and at the same time a tyrant.

        I knew such, but only a little leader, and not quite a tyrant who sat on the throne for 26 years, but half the country has been holding meetings against him for two weeks, but J.V. Stalin ruled for 29 years, and all the rallies were only for him.
        That is the answer to the question who Stalin was.
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 3 September 2020 16: 16 New
          -2
          I knew such, but only a little leader, and not quite a tyrant who sat on the throne for 26 years, but half the country has been holding meetings against him for two weeks, but J.V. Stalin ruled for 29 years, and all the rallies were only for him.
          That is the answer to the question who Stalin was.

          The throne is small. If he had the resources of Russia ...

          And the fact that a rally against him proves that he is not quite a tyrant.
          Would someone try to go to an unauthorized meeting at Comrade Stalin's ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 September 2020 15: 39 New
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            Quote: Arzt
            The throne is small. If he had the resources of Russia.

            Since the throne is small, it's time to figure out with whom and where. And so they gobble up, do not frown, and the appetites of the neighbors grow.
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 7 September 2020 15: 40 New
              +1
              Since the throne is small, it's time to figure out with whom and where. And so they gobble up, do not frown, and the appetites of the neighbors grow.

              This is yes. It looks like he already understood.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 7 September 2020 15: 48 New
                0
                Quote: Arzt
                This is yes. It looks like he already understood.

                I would like to, otherwise I have a lot of relatives in Belarus.
        2. CSKA
          CSKA 7 September 2020 15: 28 New
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          but J.V. Stalin ruled for 29 years, and all the rallies were only for him.
          That is the answer to the question who Stalin was.

          Are you delusional? If under Stalin someone would have tried to go to the rally, they would have shot everyone. Lukashenka does not do just that.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 43 New
        -2
        Quote: Arzt
        And the Truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.

        The truth is where it is, and in the middle there is a donut hole.
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    5. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 3 September 2020 14: 37 New
      -4
      Quote: Clear
      Joseph Vissarionovich - the great Leader


      Destroyed the color of the high command of the Red Army and the Navy - 65% - more than 400 people! From brigades to marshals
      As a result, in WWII, former brigades / division commanders of the Red Army commanded amiyas! With the well-known results of 1941-1942.

      People's Commissar of the Navy Kuznetsov (former commander of the cruiser),
      on purges in the army and navy:
      In November 1937, the commander of the Pacific Fleet G.P. Kireev was summoned to Moscow. But before Kireev, MV Viktorov and G.S. Okunev also left and ... did not return. The presentiment did not deceive Kireev. Rumors soon reached me that he had been arrested.

      Grigory Mikhailovich did not even say his favorite "Salud, amigo", only silently handed me a telegram from Moscow. It reported on the arrest of M.N. Tukhachevsky, I.P. Uborevich, I.E. Yakir and other major military leaders. These were the people at the helm of the Armed Forces. What could have prompted them to commit the monstrous crimes of which they were accused?

      When I returned to Moscow from Spain, I learned about new arrests. On the first day, on the way to the People's Commissariat, I met K.A. Meretskov on Gogolevsky Boulevard. We met him back in Spain. - Where are you in a hurry? - he stopped me. - Yes, you need to report to your superiors. - If Orlov, you can take your time, he was arrested yesterday.


      And the comrades told all about the new arrests. N. Moralev, A. Zeling, A. Rublevsky were arrested on the Black Sea ... I considered them honest Soviet commanders who gave all their strength to the fleet. I still had no doubts about them. How so?

      “If it's a mistake, they'll figure it out,” a friend reassured me, with whom I carefully shared my bewilderment.

      And then I accepted this convenient formula, not yet deeply thinking about what was happening. But now, in Vladivostok, when people, subordinates to me, for whom I was responsible, were arrested, I could no longer reassure myself that they would sort it out somewhere.

      in February 1938, a new wave of arrests swept through. Again, I found out about them retroactively. Once the commandant of coastal defense A.B. Eliseev phoned and asked if I knew what had happened to the commander of the artillery battalion on Russky Island. I didn't know anything.

      - Three days does not come to the service, - said Eliseev. - Apparently arrested.

      The assumption was confirmed. Then I sent a telegram to the Central Committee of the party. I wrote that I consider it wrong to practice local authorities, which arrest commanders without the knowledge of the commander, without even informing him of what happened. I received no answer.
      1. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 3 September 2020 14: 44 New
        -4
        Here is how the fate of those arrested was decided:
        At the appointed hour, P.A. Smirnov, a member of the Military Council Y.V. Volkov, the head of the regional NKVD Dimentman and his deputy for the fleet Ivanov, gathered in my office. Diementman looked askance at me and seemed to stop noticing. In conversation, he pointedly addressed only to the People's Commissar.

        For the first time I saw how the fate of people was decided then. Dimentman took out a sheet of paper from the folder, read the surname, name and patronymic of the commander, named his position. Then it was reported how many testimonies there were against this person. Nobody asked any questions. Neither a business profile, nor the opinion of the commander about the named person was interested.
        If Dimentman said that there are four testimonies, Smirnov, without hesitation for a long time, wrote on the sheet: "I authorize." This meant: a person can be arrested. At t6, I still had no reason to doubt that the materials of the NKVD were serious enough. The names that were called were familiar to me, but I had not yet had time to get to know these people closely. I was surprised, worried only by the ease with which the sanction was given.

        Suddenly I heard: "Kuznetsov Konstantin Matveyevich." It was my namesake and an old acquaintance from the Black Sea. And then I first thought about the error.

        When Smirnov took the pen to apply the fatal visa, I turned to him:
        - Allow me to report, Comrade People's Commissar! Everyone looked at me in surprise, as if I were doing some strange, unlawful act.
        - I have known the captain of the first rank Kuznetsov for many years and I cannot imagine that he would be an enemy of the people.
        I wanted to tell you more about this man, about his service, but Smirnov interrupted me:
        “If the commander is in doubt, check it again,” he said, returning the sheet to Dimentman.
        He threw a quick, unkind glance at me and read the next name.
        .
        Another day passed. Smirnov visited ships in Vladivostok, and in the evening they gathered again in my office.
        “There are two more testimonies against Kuznetsov,” Dimentman announced, barely crossing the threshold. He looked at me triumphantly and handed the papers to Smirnov, who immediately imposed a resolution, instructively remarking:
        - The enemy is cleverly disguised. It is not easy to recognize him. And we have no right to act.
        It sounded like a reprimand. Frankly, he confused me. I thought I was wrong. After all, Kuznetsov's wine has been proven by authoritative bodies!
        KM Kuznetsov was arrested, as were all the others. There were many of them. It is not for nothing that a short examination of these "indictment" sheets required three evenings. I walked under the heavy impression of arrests. Were tormented by the thought of how the people who served nearby could become sworn enemies and why we did not notice their rebirth? It still did not occur to the state security agencies to act incorrectly. Moreover, I did not admit the thought of any unusual ways of obtaining evidence.
        1. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 3 September 2020 14: 46 New
          -4
          On the day of P.A. Smirnov's departure, we gathered to listen to his remarks. As soon as we sat down at the table, they again reported that Dimentman had arrived.
          “Here is the testimony of Kuznetsov,” he announced, addressing Smirnov.
          Smirnov scanned the piece of paper and handed it to me. There was only one phrase, written in the hand of my namesake: "Not considering it necessary to resist, I confess that I am an enemy of the people." - Do you recognize the handwriting? - asked Smirnov. - I will.
          “You are not yet politically mature enough,” the People's Commissar said angrily.
          I was silent. Diementman did not hide his pleasure ...
          I must also say about Konstantin Matveyevich Kuznetsov. In the spring of 1939, I came to Vladivostok from Moscow together with A.A. Zhdanov. We were sitting in my former office. Its owner was already I.S. Yumashev, who took command of the Pacific Fleet after my appointment to the People's Commissariat. The adjutant reported:

          - The captain of the first rank Kuznetsov is asking for you.
          - Which Kuznetsov? Submariner? I asked in amazement. - He is.
          This interested me so much that I interrupted the conversation and, without even asking the permission of A.A. Zhdanov, said: - Let me go immediately!
          Konstantin Matveyevich immediately entered the office. During the year he had changed a lot, looked pale and haggard. But I knew where he came from.
          - Allow me to report, the freed and rehabilitated captain of the first rank Kuznetsov has appeared, - he reported.
          Andrei Alexandrovich looked at him in bewilderment, then at me. "Why such a rush?" - I read in his eyes.
          - Did you sign a statement that you are an enemy of the people? I asked Kuznetsov.
          - Yes, you can sign it there. - Kuznetsov showed his mouth, in which there were almost no teeth left.
          “That's what's going on,” I turned to Zhdanov. Everything connected with this case came to life in my memory.
          - Yes, indeed, a lot of disgrace was revealed, - Zhdanov responded dryly and did not continue this conversation.

          http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/kuznetsov-1/27.html
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 September 2020 16: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
        Destroyed the color of the high command of the Red Army and the Navy - 65% - more than 400 people! From brigades to marshals

        Especially "such a color" as Tukhachevsky, Dybenko and Frinovsky. Comrade Stalin managed to "throw off the ballast" in time.
    6. Cop
      Cop 3 September 2020 16: 39 New
      -3
      Quote: Clear
      For me, everything is simple and clear. Friends of Russia (and personally I) affirm that Joseph Vissarionovich is a great Leader
      With great pleasure I would send you at the end of 1932 to Ukraine ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 September 2020 15: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Cop
        With great pleasure I would send you to the Ukraine at the end of 1932.

        Why in 1932, go now.
        1. Cop
          Cop 8 September 2020 12: 28 New
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Why in 1932, go now.
          I was there a couple of years ago. Believe it or not, I did not observe hungry faints there.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 8 September 2020 14: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Cop
            I was there a couple of years ago. Believe it or not, I did not observe hungry faints there.

            In my opinion, in the former USSR, they do not die of hunger anywhere, and they do not faint. I worked for Ukraine for many years, although only that was Kerch (now Russia) Odessa, Ilyichevsk, Nikolaev, Mariupol. The most unpleasant imprint remained from Kerch nine years ago, here, although people did not fall, they were on the verge of this, when the light was turned off after 8 pm, and one day they gave hot water, when the soldiers, along with the grandmothers, stood at the stores and asked not for money, but something to eat. Shadows walked the streets, not people.
            1. Cop
              Cop 9 September 2020 08: 55 New
              0
              I didn't understand your message. I was talking about a different time. The leader of the country who has brought the country to hunger three times, is this his greatness? You have compared it with our time. But even in your opinion, it turns out that our time is better than that. Further, if you go into the depths of Russia, then the situation there is not much better than the one you described in Ukraine.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 9 September 2020 12: 32 New
                0
                Quote: Cop
                I didn't understand your message. I was talking about a different time.

                Well, you said, "I was there a couple of years ago," and I also answered at the same time.
    7. Husit
      Husit 3 September 2020 19: 36 New
      -2
      Quote: Clear
      For me, everything is simple and clear.
      Russia's enemies say
      "Stalin is a bloody tyrant, paranoidly obsessed with power!"


      Friends of Russia (and personally I) affirm that
      Joseph Vissarionovich - the great Leader

      Sholokhov very to the point answered the journalist's question "How do you feel about the cult of Stalin's personality?"
      To which Sholokhov simply replied .. There was a cult! But the PERSONALITY WAS!
      There is nothing more to add .. The parade (45th) was watched today in the full version on TV .. It was PERSONALITY that was Such power and energy beat from these newsreel frames .. A close-knit people, a breaker over a terrible world threat!
      And now Ugh damn liberda with the fleaurs are teaching us about life ..
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 September 2020 15: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Husit
        And now Ugh damn liberda with the fleaurs are teaching us about life ..

        Worse than liberda, the adherents of the State Department.
    8. CSKA
      CSKA 7 September 2020 15: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Clear
      Friends of Russia (and personally I) affirm that

      Who are these so-called friends and who are you personally so that we would listen to your opinion?
  2. apro
    apro 3 September 2020 09: 59 New
    +6
    I think that there is no secret of personality ... IVS Stalin devoted his whole life to the service in the practice of building a just society, and on this path there were struggles, mistakes, and victories. To know what he wanted and through this it would have been easier to examine his actions. and not invent for him.
    1. WIKI
      WIKI 3 September 2020 11: 38 New
      +8
      Quote: apro
      I think. That there is no secret of personality ..

      You think so. And for those in power, it is a big mystery that there are no vested interests, with unlimited power. And the reason for this is his deep ideological spirit, which does not provide for the enrichment of the personal and those around him. This principle of justice does not fit in the heads of the modern rulers of Russia.
      1. depressant
        depressant 3 September 2020 13: 48 New
        +7
        I will continue, colleagues, your and my thoughts. For the era of Stalin is directly related to the present. I believe that after the death of Joseph Vissarionovich, his era was thoroughly analyzed by traitors to his ideas, as well as by foreign enemies of our political system, and appropriate conclusions were drawn about how to destroy it, the Soviet system.
        Stalin, together with his army of 8 million soldiers who perished on the battlefields, went to Slav forever. The death of such a number of his associates was a huge loss, a blow to the ideological content of current life. From all the dark corners, from the gloomy backyards of the general mentality of the population, petty-bourgeois sentiments, which had not been completely destroyed, began to creep out. In the era of Khrushchev and Brezhnev, they began to gain strength and took ugly corruption and gangster forms. But those who returned from the front were still alive, and they resisted as best they could. Alive, but gradually aging, leaving life, losing the opportunity to influence the ideological and political situation in the USSR. And when the bulk of the ideological ones finally got old and retired, which led to the narrowing of the general layer of ideological ones to small values, then the Gorbachev era began, the meaning of which was the revival of capitalism in the USSR. By default, the cultivated petty-bourgeois sentiments of a corruption-criminal kind, which engulfed a fairly significant segment of the population with the dull indifference of the undecided, became fertile ground for Gorbachev, and it took a very short era of Perestroika and hungry electric trains to give capitalist relations in our country at least a semi-legal look. Thus, in the depths of the socialist system, elements of capitalist relations were grown, which became the basis for the collapse of the USSR with the degeneration of the Soviet system in the emerging countries into pseudo-capitalism.
        It turns out that after 1953 the population of our country was still divided into two layers, of which the first, highly ideological, gradually faded away, and the second, petty-bourgeois, increased its numerical strength at the expense of wavering - again two ideologically opposite layers!

        What do we have in the current era? Yes, the same thing - two ideologically opposite layers! Soviet and petty-bourgeois mentality.
        President Putin took into account their presence. He sent the first and second post-war generations to retirement on time, depriving them of the opportunity to nostalgic for the great Soviet past, occupying positions of responsibility and thus influencing the minds of those who were undecided in their attitude to the present and the past. And he lowered the rest to the state of pre-retirees, for it was the passivity of these people that overthrew the Soviet system. And this is not revenge - this is all the sisters on the earrings. You were young, but did not resist, so you wanted capitalism, well, get it and sign it! He knows that few of the pre-retirees will stand up for the restoration of the Soviet system, because their youth and youth passed in an unattractive era of dying general secretaries, the growth of corruption, crime, and then in Gorbachev's Perestroika. And it is unlikely that there will be a sufficient number of those among them who will give their lives for the restoration of socialism.

        This is my theory of two layers. Since 1917, we have been divided by a new type of ideological confrontation. We are pioneers in this, pioneers. Will our ideological stratum, which has lost it now, ever gain strength? A strength worthy of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin and his Holy Host who fell in the Second World War?
        History - she can hide her face behind a veil, but she never forgets anything.
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 3 September 2020 09: 59 New
    12
    Who will reveal the secrets of Stalin, if even on "Victory Day, the Mausoleum is draped so that the people do not see it."
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 3 September 2020 10: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: tihonmarine
      The mausoleum is draped so that people do not see it.

      fool What did the people not see? The people see the mausoleum every day. And if you open the mausoleum at the parade, then the government needs to rise to the mausoleum and stand in the place of Stalin and Brezhnev over the name "Lenin" and recognize itself as their heirs. request And to start pouring a positive about them ... ... is not possible. no
  4. atos_kin
    atos_kin 3 September 2020 10: 03 New
    +5
    The further from Comrade Stalin, the closer to Hitler and vice versa.
    1. Cop
      Cop 3 September 2020 16: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: atos_kin
      The further from Comrade Stalin, the closer to Hitler and vice versa.
      Yes, how simple it is for you .... but maybe there is still a third way? laughing
      1. atos_kin
        atos_kin 3 September 2020 19: 15 New
        -1
        The third way is religion - opium for the people.
        1. Cop
          Cop 5 September 2020 09: 50 New
          0
          Quote: atos_kin
          The third way is religion - opium for the people.
          But what a rich choice. Don't you want variety in your life?
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 50 New
        -1
        Quote: Cop
        Yes, how simple it is for you .... but maybe there is still a third way?

        To Hitler?
        1. Cop
          Cop 5 September 2020 09: 52 New
          0
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          To Hitler?
          Well, I understand that this is the second, or, on the contrary, the first. I was talking about the third ...
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 10: 36 New
            0
            Well, actually the third way to him and led.
            1. Cop
              Cop 5 September 2020 10: 53 New
              0
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Well, actually the third way to him and led.
              And why, in the second case, did he not bring him to him?
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 12: 42 New
                -1
                Brought. Because the third way is actually the second.
                1. Cop
                  Cop 7 September 2020 12: 11 New
                  0
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Brought. Because the third way is actually the second.
                  Then why not the first one?
  5. Pavel57
    Pavel57 3 September 2020 10: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: Far In
    And our current helmsmen give quite negative assessments to Comrade Stalin. So who are they - our current helmsmen?


    Our helmsmen try to rely on the history of Russia / USSR, bypassing the question of who was at the head of the victories.
  6. Maks1995
    Maks1995 3 September 2020 10: 16 New
    -2
    ABOUT! Advertising of their kngig has already gone!
    Knowing the posts of Necropny, you can predict in advance what will be in the book.
  7. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 3 September 2020 10: 19 New
    +2
    It is best to read Golovanov's memoirs.
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 3 September 2020 10: 20 New
    -4
    It is unlikely that among the historical figures who have left a significant mark on the fate of our Fatherland there is a figure about whom as much has been written as about Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.
    At once, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. Less secrets, more common sense.
  9. Pavel57
    Pavel57 3 September 2020 10: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. Less secrets, more common sense.

    There are enough secrets too.
  10. Doccor18
    Doccor18 3 September 2020 10: 54 New
    +6
    Many of them were very intelligent people who left behind memoirs and other literary works. So what...

    These works and memoirs later “ruled” well during Khrushchev's tyranny. I remembered an article about how Khrushev asked Rokossovsky to write a libel about Stalin. And the marshal replied that he would not do this, since "Stalin is a saint for me." I think that there were few such daredevils who could refuse Khrushchev's eyes ...
  11. Mhpv
    Mhpv 3 September 2020 10: 54 New
    +1
    And my acquaintance began with this book: About the book "Generalissimo"
    Historical and documentary research "Generalissimo" by the famous Russian writer V.V. Karpov is dedicated to I.V. Stalin, one of the most outstanding figures in world history, who made a colossal contribution to the strengthening of the USSR and the victory of the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War. The author pays special attention to Stalin's military leadership talent, his activities as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. The writer, according to him, does not pretend "to be an epic canvas: this book is not a novel or a story." It is a mosaic assembled from those found by V.V. Karpov and other authors, known and little-known, of Stalin's deeds. The main concern of the writer is to recreate the most complete objective picture of I.V. Stalin.

    Vladimir KARPOV is a famous Russian writer, laureate of State and international prizes, academician, author of many books, including those popular in our country and abroad - "The Commander", "Marshal Zhukov". His works are distinguished by high artistry and research depth based on documents. Karpov, a war veteran, twice Hero of the Soviet Union, graduated from two military academies and the V.I. Gorky, worked in the General Staff (even under Stalin). This weight gave him the opportunity to create a fundamental, objective work (without embellishment and denigration) about the largest historical personality of the XNUMXth century, Generalissimo IV Stalin.

    Last impression of the book

    “In January 2010, an outstanding, worthy man, Volodya Karpov, passed away. I knew him well, he is a real Soviet man, a patriot, a communist. an open person. Faithfully served our Motherland, our people, has always been an example worthy of imitation. Bright memory and eternal Glory! (Colonel Dmitry M. Larionov, 2010) "

    And now I read:
    Articles and speeches about Ukraine
    Stalin I.
    The reader is invited to a book that contains articles and speeches by I.V. Stalin from 1917 to 1934, dedicated to Ukraine. Among them are reports on the national question in the context of Ukraine, on relations and negotiations with the Central Rada, which ruled in Ukraine for some time, on national issues in party and state building, on the policy of the Soviet state on the national question. The book also contains the texts of telegrams sent by I.V. Stalin in the summer of 1920, when he was a member of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Southwestern Front. The book is recommended for historians, social scientists, political scientists, philosophers, undergraduate and graduate students of the relevant specialties, as well as for a wide range of readers interested in the history of the USSR, theory and history of Marxism and socialism
    Everything collected in this book gives an idea that what is happening now was 100 years ago, but then Russia had something to offer the outskirts at the head of the Bolsheviks, and therefore they retained both power and the country. Today's capitalist Russia has nothing to offer, so it loses the former Soviet republics.
    1. zenion
      zenion 3 September 2020 16: 20 New
      0
      MCHPV. Many do not understand Stalin, do not understand and no one thinks how it was for him to participate in the combination of the front and rear, and also not to lose sight of the policy of both allies and enemies. He managed to do this and remained the USSR, even stronger than before the war. It is also surprising how many traitors there were in Russia, both during the tsarist and socialist times. My mother used to say - if you want to have an enemy, feed him.
  12. BAI
    BAI 3 September 2020 11: 01 New
    +3
    Well, why is this ad about anything? It would be better to have a few extracts from the book or briefly in the form of an article - one chapter.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 52 New
      -1
      In short, Stalin is our everything. (Sorry Pushkin)
  13. Van 16
    Van 16 3 September 2020 11: 07 New
    +4
    By the way, about books. Vladislav Krapivin died yesterday. This is very, very sad news. He was a wonderful writer.
  14. iouris
    iouris 3 September 2020 12: 04 New
    0
    There is no secret. The publication of the text of Ukropny is another attempt - to make the doctrine, activities and main results of the life of a revolutionary, the leader of the oppressed, an element of modern mass culture, to turn everything into a scandal, so that intellectual work on the critical and creative comprehension of the revolutionary doctrine and our history is replaced by "information", knowledge of secondary and often false facts.
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    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 September 2020 13: 04 New
      +8
      Quote: 3rd-09
      Secrets, of course, over time, need to be revealed. There should be no secrets in the history of the country, but with time. For example, the dry figures of statistics of cases of the use of the death penalty on their soldiers during the Second World War.
      USA: 146
      France: 102
      Britain: 40
      Germany: 7
      USSR: 157 (These are only tribunals, excluding executions by detachments, SMERSH, etc.)



      But is it correct that these data are being published now, just 75 years after the Great Victory? The answer is of course not. Such data should be published 200 or 300 years later, when these facts cannot upset the fans of the USSR and Stalin so much.

      And a photo from a 2000s feature film should somehow strengthen the "emotional component" of your comment?

      Taking into account the fact that the execution of captured Red Army soldiers is commanded by a German officer? belay
      1. zenion
        zenion 3 September 2020 16: 24 New
        +1
        Insurgent. As soon as they left the territories that could not wait for Hitler, and retreated to Russian lands, the shootings and retreats stopped. The Russians are not backing down. Stalin turned out to be very good in matters where it was necessary to show severity, and Khrushch did everything to spite the people who won.
        1. Cop
          Cop 5 September 2020 10: 02 New
          0
          Quote: zenion
          ....... and retreated to Russian lands, the executions and retreats stopped. The Russians are not backing down.
          When you read this, you think, but did the person go to school? Or PMC “Lakhta” began to recruit just about anyone. Order No. 227 on which lands came into force? And how many were shot at him?
    2. iouris
      iouris 3 September 2020 13: 08 New
      +5
      Began. Why hasn't Poland been tied up here? Britain was at war, but somehow limited. France fought for two months and surrendered. There, according to the laws of wartime, very many should be shot. The USSR defeated Europe. Almost all of them, including Eastern Europe. But from the modern "European" point of view, this is, of course, wrong. They fought against the rules, frost ... Millions of Soviet people were destroyed by the Nazis and their accomplices. Are they also victims of Stalinism?
      Nazism is revived in propaganda materials.
    3. Cop
      Cop 3 September 2020 16: 47 New
      -3
      Quote: 3rd-09
      Such data should be published after 200 or 300 years, when these facts cannot upset the fans of the USSR and Stalin so much.
      Do you think this will upset them? They will simply say that it is right for them.
  16. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 3 September 2020 12: 46 New
    +1
    Psychics literally pulled up. Wishing to
    From the desire to see a person in this person, to try to comprehend and comprehend his true motives, motives, aspirations.
    literally a dime a dozen. Of course, when "trying to peer" into reality, they all "blur the details." Why not blur when, instead of analyzing and synthesizing, people try to discern what, in principle, cannot be discerned!
    It’s bad if a cake-maker starts making boots and a shoemaker bakes pies. Are you trying to discern the motives-aspirations? Write a poem. To understand something about a real historical figure, you need to analyze his ACTIONS. Chronopsych telepaths who are trying to get into people's heads through time should not be read. Wasted time.
    1. Cop
      Cop 3 September 2020 16: 50 New
      -3
      [quote = mikhail3To understand something about a real historical figure, you need to analyze his ACTIONS. [/ quote] Yes, it is not the actions that need to be analyzed, but the results and how much was paid for them ....
  17. place
    place 3 September 2020 15: 55 New
    +1
    The attitude to Stalin, as to the Emperor, testifies NOT to Stalin, but to the preservation of the slave spirit in the society of the descendants of serfs. For some reason, no one is interested in the fact that from 1923 to 1941 Stalin did not hold any positions in the Government at all.

    He was a leader in the ruling party of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, which did not have the position of "chairman" (as in China), but according to the charter there was a principle of democratic centralism. That is, the positions were elective and accountable. Nobody could become "Tsar" - by birthright or "be appointed successor". In short, the most important thing is that the public is not interested ... and that says a lot.
    1. depressant
      depressant 3 September 2020 20: 14 New
      +4
      I'm wondering why the desire of the Russian people to have a worthy leader is interpreted as an inescapable habit of slavery?
      How many American films have I watched, where episodes of elections - either the city mayor, the senator, the congressman, or even the president - are flickering. And everywhere there are huge crowds of voters, crowded into huge halls to meet their candidate, ovations with which they greet him, reaching out to shake hands with him, good wishes, expressions of hope for his success ... Are they slaves? No, they are free Americans. Free in their imagination and that of the entire Western world. Free, choosing their leader. For some reason, these free people can have a leader, but for some reason we cannot.
      Or maybe everything is simple? Because we do not have and cannot have a leader, since there is no one to choose from. And the one who is positioned as the leader of the nation is no longer such, but is appointed by law. Therefore, if we start shouting: "Leader! .. Leader!" - the competent authorities may also come to us because of the legislative obscenity of our demand, and the liberals, in their own way, playing up to the competent authorities, will smile subtly, intelligently and very publicly: "Again, the memory of their serf ancestors has awakened in these Russians!"
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 3 September 2020 21: 24 New
        +2
        ...... their serf ancestors ...
        Yeah interesting. And whoever smiled at the Poles remembered them as serfs. ? negative and even in a divided country, by agreement of strong countries, at the Congress of Vienna, for courtesy to Napoleon. I don’t remember what anyone would remember? And it should be! am
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 3 September 2020 23: 56 New
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        Quote: depressant
        I'm wondering why the desire of the Russian people to have a worthy leader is interpreted as an inescapable habit of slavery?

        What does this inescapable habit of slavery have to do with it? The usual inertia of public consciousness.
        1. depressant
          depressant 4 September 2020 00: 05 New
          +1
          What kind of consciousness, colleague? Ours? I tried to remember at least one country with an anarchic system, but no, it doesn't work. Can you tell me? ))
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 10: 24 New
            0
            And what does the anarchic structure have to do with it? Is it okay that communism eventually comes to abolish the institution of the state as unnecessary?
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 4 September 2020 09: 31 New
          +1
          All these "habits of slavery", and the "inertia of social consciousness." Oh ho ho ...
          Firstly, the right of fortress has nothing to do with slavery. Absolutely. At all. This is a completely different social phenomenon. It is not surprising that the humanities do not understand the difference. They don't understand much at all. To our great regret, when in 1812 the nobles massively betrayed the right of the fortress, it became virtually slavery. And it existed in Russia for less than a century.
          Secondly. A worthy leader? Let's leave aside the question of why it is bad to have a worthy leader. It is useless to convince those who think so, since there is nothing to convince, there are no corresponding mechanisms in the brain. The question is - why does the state need a strong authoritarian leader? And the answer is that such a shlider is badly needed surrounded by enemies. As the supreme combat commander. Or real slavery, violence, death awaits everyone. That's all.
          Stalin, by the way, really did not have any supreme position up to the rank of Supreme Commander-in-Chief. It was his absolutely outstanding technique that pushed him far out of the ranks. Stalin was a brilliant organizer, practically unseen in history. Only what he organized worked in the country. From the moment Lenin was shot, there was simply no person who looked like Stalin. So he became the most important. Strange story, isn't it?
  18. nikvic46
    nikvic46 3 September 2020 16: 04 New
    -1
    Stalin, of course, is not a saint. He is a man. In many ways he was influenced by his surroundings. And there is no way of repression. And Victory too. We are looking at everything from the height of our time. Our descendants will also consider us. And there will be a lot of strange things for them. in our behavior. Stalin can not be considered in isolation from politics. Stalin gave instructions, and the servants were incredibly zealous to prove their commitment. This is how we are arranged. We see what is happening around us, but when the leader says about it, we applaud. And officials rush to write down the obvious. Whatever we say about this time, everything will be untrue. In this time we must live.
    1. place
      place 3 September 2020 16: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: nikvic46
      And repression won't go anywhere

      -------

      About which repression speech? Can you indicate in the history of mankind a state in which there is no Ministry of Internal Affairs, courts or a system for the execution of sentences?

      Or maybe it's all about the very word "repression"? They say it was invented in the 50s in Great Britain especially for the USSR. In all other countries of the world there are no "punitive" ones, but there are law enforcement agencies, there are no "repressions", but there is a system of punishing criminals ........ Maybe it's not about repression, but about the fact that in Russia, the first of the two main troubles is idiocy?
      1. agond
        agond 3 September 2020 18: 02 New
        0
        I dare to assume that Stalin was greatly impressed by the work of Karl Zeiss, a German physician and scientist, in the Soviet Union he was on the Trans-Baikal expedition, was engaged in the treatment of drug addiction and syphilis in 1927-29, in 1930 he returned to Germany, in 1945 he was brought to the Union, died 1948 According to his theory, it is not important which society (Germans, Russians, Mongols, Chinese) consists of four (phenotypic) types of categories of people:
        10% - Aristocrats: warriors, chiefs,
        20% - Producers: workers, peasants,
        30% - Clever people: scientists, teachers, doctors, writers, priests
        40% - Parasites: merchants, financiers, lumpen; thieves
        - each type has its own characteristic bouquets of diseases associated with the overload of certain organs; for example in Parasites - sexual diseases due to the most unbridled sexual behavior are more common
        During his work on the expedition, Zeiss observed the exiles and concluded that if a member from the first category falls into the fourth, then he cannot, in principle, improve and it is better to shoot him, so his appearance negatively affects the rest, which he wrote to Stalin, and he did not answer, but remembered the name of the scientist.
      2. nikvic46
        nikvic46 4 September 2020 06: 34 New
        -1
        Yesterday. I read your opinion with interest. I will say even more that the experience of the USSR was not useless for the world. And some country will take it into service. But seeing only one good thing in the past means making mistakes in the future. human shortcomings. And all this did not bypass the leadership of our country. This is nepotism, and the Bai attitude towards subordinates. And to this day they say that which caresses the ear of the leader. A song from a cartoon will say it better than me. " , he will receive sweet candy. "Health to you.
  19. Husit
    Husit 3 September 2020 19: 26 New
    -1
    Stalin's secrets - will they ever be revealed?

    The question for many in Russia-USSR is this .. Who? When? Why they vulgarized the name of Stalin and trampled it into the mud ..

    History is already sweeping the trash at Stalin's grave and screeching begins from all holes ..
    You will have to answer in front of those who were killed in the liberal sabbath of the 54th, 93rd, etc.
    1. Cop
      Cop 5 September 2020 10: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Husit
      You will have to answer in front of those who were killed in the liberal sabbath of the 54th, 93rd, etc.
      And who was ruined, read out the entire list please ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 10: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Cop
        And who was ruined, read out the entire list please ...

        Shcha Vital will roll a glass and give you the first number ...
        1. Cop
          Cop 5 September 2020 10: 25 New
          0
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Vitala will roll the glass and give you the first number ...
          Wow, so Vitalya still prefers ... the third way ... laughing Yes, talent is not .... you spend on drink.
      2. Husit
        Husit 5 September 2020 10: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: Cop
        Quote: Husit
        You will have to answer in front of those who were killed in the liberal sabbath of the 54th, 93rd, etc.
        And who was ruined, read out the entire list please ...

        A large list of true patriots and comrades loyal to the Motherland ..
        But people like you remained with malice and now ask such questions, realizing that there are not many of us left hi
        1. Cop
          Cop 5 September 2020 10: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Husit
          But people like you remained with malice and now ask such questions, realizing that there are not many of us left hi
          Well, you would answer them, all the more if you are not enough ... you have to ... fight for the minds and hearts of people like me ...
          1. Husit
            Husit 5 September 2020 10: 42 New
            -1
            Quote: Cop
            Quote: Husit
            But people like you remained with malice and now ask such questions, realizing that there are not many of us left hi
            Well, you would answer them, all the more if you are not enough ... you have to ... fight for the minds and hearts of people like me ...

            Well, with such we usually have a different conversation madam .. love

            We accept everyone! wink
            1. Cop
              Cop 5 September 2020 10: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Husit
              We accept everyone! wink
              Look, wasn't that what they fought for? See for yourself, she can find lace panties in the EU? Can. Can you work as an actress in Russia? Can. So what they fought for, they got it ... laughing And we, Russian women, do you think it turns out .... do not need lace panties? :))).
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  20. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 3 September 2020 22: 38 New
    0
    Until today, I thought that Kharaluzhny's articles were the "bottom" of this site ... I was wrong. I'm sorry
  21. imobile2008
    imobile2008 4 September 2020 21: 19 New
    -2
    With a tongue!
  22. Radikal
    Radikal 5 September 2020 00: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Van 16
    "Capitalists"
    If. For the most part, these are just officials who have seized on cash flows. And selected mainly on the basis of personal loyalty.

    And WHO selects officials? WHO says every year that the work of the government is satisfied?

    Probably Eltsin ... laughing lol wassat hi
    1. Cop
      Cop 5 September 2020 10: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      Probably Eltsin ... laughing lol wassat hi
      Or maybe Gorby? laughing
  23. Radikal
    Radikal 5 September 2020 17: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Cop
    Quote: Radikal
    Probably Eltsin ... laughing lol wassat hi
    Or maybe Gorby? laughing

    Or Khrushchev ... bully hi
    Are we all ashamed to give a name? Russian President Putin is responsible for the selection and placement of government personnel and key departments! More questions? sad
    1. Cop
      Cop 7 September 2020 12: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      Are we all ashamed to give a name?
      Not a boy's words .... One can immediately feel .... combat experience, which was clearly not obtained in the "Arbat military district", but apparently in the war itself ... laughing
      Quote: Radikal
      Russian President Putin is responsible for the selection and placement of government personnel and key departments!
      Well, we have identified the main culprit.
      Quote: Radikal
      More questions? sad
      So should you expect questions from me? In my opinion, I should wait for your suggestions, for example, what to do with the culprit? Said A, say B.
  24. CBR600
    CBR600 7 September 2020 10: 33 New
    0
    I did not read all the comments, neither in the note (article) nor in the comments there is a word - sovereignty.
    Those. blah blah again. And there are facts about Stalinism - genocide, industrialization, World War II, the struggle for this notorious sovereignty of the country. Authoritarianism, with the development of any system, the same is inevitable, which is also a fact. But what a price. It seems to me - a feast victory for all this. And certainly not a paranoid tyrant. No, not how!
    1. place
      place 8 September 2020 13: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: CBR600
      And there are facts about Stalinism - genocide, industrialization, WWII, the struggle for this notorious sovereignty of the country. Authoritarianism, with the development of any system, the same is inevitable, which is also a fact. But what a price. It seems to me - a feast victory of all this


      1.! The word "Pyrrhic" is written with two "R".
      2. To equate industrialization and flagrant crimes against the law and the state in the USSR is the lot of complete Coetins. The descendants of serfs are fundamentally unable to distinguish between "crimes of power" from crimes against the state and power. For for them "power" = "tyranny of the master".
      3.- Condemnation of the country's sovereignty is the idiocy of the layman who thinks that "if we lost the war to the Germans, we would live like the Germans", and if "we lost to the Japanese, we would live like the Japanese." There are simply, but there are - the descendants of idiots - serfs of the 18th century, dreaming of a good master - a German or a Japanese ...
      1. CBR600
        CBR600 10 September 2020 10: 20 New
        0
        You to a psychiatrist ... I did not condemn sovereignty, it's time. Two, it is impossible to equate industrialization and crime.
        Three-
        The descendants of serfs are fundamentally unable to distinguish between "crimes of power" from crimes against the state and power. For for them "power" = "tyranny of the master".

        Simply, I will not list all the mistakes. You should pass the exam.
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 9 September 2020 01: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Cop
    Quote: Radikal
    Are we all ashamed to give a name?
    Not a boy's words .... One can immediately feel .... combat experience, which was clearly not obtained in the "Arbat military district", but apparently in the war itself ... laughing
    Quote: Radikal
    Russian President Putin is responsible for the selection and placement of government personnel and key departments!
    Well, we have identified the main culprit.
    Quote: Radikal
    More questions? sad
    So should you expect questions from me? In my opinion, I should wait for your suggestions, for example, what to do with the culprit? Said A, say B.

    You said - we, I understood correctly that you share some of my thoughts, did I really understand you correctly? Then - Madame / Mademoiselle (although I could be wrong, maybe you are a gentleman love ) this question should be addressed to the hero of the day - the Chief of the General Staff, General of the Army Gerasimov, (who is congratulated every 30 minutes by Zvezda throughout the day on this sad holiday, and they do not seem to know the measures) since the remnants of the Soviet Army are subordinate to him , we are just a support service. lol
    1. Cop
      Cop 9 September 2020 09: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      You said - we, I understood correctly ...
      Well, we have a dialogue, right? It means We. Only now it was you who made the conclusion .... :))).
      Quote: Radikal
      .... that you share some of my thoughts, did I really understand you correctly?
      Well, if they agree with my .... civil position, then why not separate them? :).
      Quote: Radikal
      ... this question should be addressed to the hero of the day - Chief of General Staff, Army General Gerasimov ..
      Well, he's high, and you are next to me. :). And then in your report you .... reflect the opinion of the people hopefully ... :).
      Quote: Radikal
      ... we are just a support service. lol
      Well, you are not that kind of auxiliary, judging by the funding. But in any case, I wish you success in combat and political .... :).
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 9 September 2020 18: 34 New
    0
    Quote: Cop
    Quote: Radikal
    You said - we, I understood correctly ...
    Well, we have a dialogue, right? It means We. Only now it was you who made the conclusion .... :))).
    Quote: Radikal
    .... that you share some of my thoughts, did I really understand you correctly?
    Well, if they agree with my .... civil position, then why not separate them? :).
    Quote: Radikal
    ... this question should be addressed to the hero of the day - Chief of General Staff, Army General Gerasimov ..
    Well, he's high, and you are next to me. :). And then in your report you .... reflect the opinion of the people hopefully ... :).
    Quote: Radikal
    ... we are just a support service. lol
    Well, you are not that kind of auxiliary, judging by the funding. But in any case, I wish you success in combat and political .... :).

    Instead of "reflecting" the opinion of the people (here) - let them express themselves. bully hi
  27. Danila46
    Danila46 11 September 2020 07: 59 New
    0
    eh! Serf tribe. Will you wiser? Probably when, under torture, you are caught confessing that you are a grandmother, but you will have all the attributes of a grandfather ...