The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group

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There are urgent reports from Germany that military toxicologists of the Federal Republic of Germany were allegedly able to accurately identify "the poison with which the Russian opposition figure Alexei Navalny was poisoned."

Let us remind you that after being sent from Omsk to the German clinic "Charite" practically nothing was reported about Navalny. There were even statements on the network that Navalny could have been transferred from Charite to another place. Now it suddenly turns out that military toxicologists managed to work with Navalny, which already raises many questions.



Reports coming from Germany say that poison from the Novichok "group" was allegedly found in Navalny's body. This was reported by an official representative of the German government.

According to the representative of the German Cabinet, Berlin will inform its partners in the European Union and NATO about the results of the analysis.

These statements have already provoked a reaction both in Germany itself and abroad. Experts note that the assumptions about the favorable position of Alexei Navalny as a sacred victim are actually justified. For obvious reasons, no one, as in the case of Skripal and his daughter, will provide any evidence of the presence of poison in Navalny's body. But for the collective West there is a new reason to spin the flywheel of anti-Russian sanctions. At the same time, in the same West, hardly any of the politicians is going to ask a reasonable question: what kind of military poison is this, which is supposedly "poisoned" by the opponents of the Kremlin, if it is not even capable of taking a person's life ... And what kind of "poisoning" such, "beneficial to the Kremlin", if the Russian authorities give the go-ahead for the treatment of the "poisoned" abroad, where they can make up any unsubstantiated diagnosis.

It should be noted that earlier the Czech professor stated that even the poison that is used in the fields against rodents can be suitable for the sounded group of poisons.
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  1. +52
    2 September 2020 17: 08
    laughing laughing laughing well we expected that laughing laughing
    1. +19
      2 September 2020 17: 10
      Has it been banged yet?

      Will he live in a coma?

      The Germans are wrong with poison.

      The poison is called "Old Man"

      There are witnesses who have heard how his associates proposed;
      - let's go roll on a sotochku, old man. laughing
      1. +18
        2 September 2020 17: 13
        He tweets straight from the coma!
        1. +10
          2 September 2020 17: 59
          Quote: El Dorado
          He tweets straight from the coma!

          Take more ... from Hell. They say he is no longer in the clinic ...
          earlier, a Czech professor stated that even a poison that is used in the fields against rodents can be suitable for the sounded group of poisons.

          Navalny is a liberal, twitter hamster, just at the risk of deratization.
          1. +6
            2 September 2020 18: 09
            Quote: Wend
            well we expected that

            So are you him?
            Shame on you. feel

            Sisyan was hounded by the inhabitants of Russia.
            We need to announce sanctions to all residents of Russia.

            There are suspicions that the body of the shisyan began to reject Russian air.
            "There is a Russian spirit, there is a smell of Russia," one old woman used to say when she started to be sausage. wassat
            1. -20
              2 September 2020 18: 55
              As much as liberal patriots and leavened patriots would not want to, but they will have to because of the sanctions:
              1. Tighten the belts.
              2. Support United Russia, as all the leaders and businessmen are in it.
              3. Pay even more from the budget for the maintenance of commercial patriots, since there will be even more bad comments.
              1. Aag
                -6
                2 September 2020 22: 21
                It is strange that you are so enthusiastically minus. As if they haven’t been through something like that. Minusators: the character (Initial) is not at all attractive, especially his goals, objectives ... But! I am even more careful with the subjects of his criticism. For them goals are more veiled with patriotic slogans, and are strongly supported by administrative resources ... There is a suspicion ( laughing ), that neither the first nor the second, - not about the country, not about the people ... - no way! ...
              2. +1
                3 September 2020 07: 39
                don't you need to tighten your belt?
              3. 0
                3 September 2020 08: 18
                Quote: Civil
                will have to because of the sanctions:
                1. Tighten the belts.
                Who exactly? Personally, I do not feel the impact of sanctions on myself.
                2. Support United Russia, as all the leaders and businessmen are in it.
                How this is related to the sanctions is not clear. Who is a businessman in United Russia? Surnames in the studio.
                3. Pay even more from the budget for the maintenance of commercial patriots, since there will be even more bad comments.
                This is not paid from the budget.
              4. 0
                3 September 2020 09: 57
                Quote: Civil
                As much as liberal patriots and leavened patriots would not want to, but they will have to because of the sanctions:
                1. Tighten the belts.
                2. Support United Russia, as all the leaders and businessmen are in it.
                3. Pay even more from the budget for the maintenance of commercial patriots, since there will be even more bad comments.

                And who are liberal patriots? And these are those who are ready to flush their country down the toilet for Western handouts laughing
      2. +34
        2 September 2020 17: 14
        The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group

        Yes, you will finally perform the autopsy ...
        1. +22
          2 September 2020 17: 34
          Interestingly, and the henchmen accompanying Ololosha will be burned from a flamethrower, like the Skripals cat?
          Although everything seems to be clear with shisyan, the project is closed, now they will pull out some new Guaido and spin it by the year 24
          1. +14
            2 September 2020 17: 37
            Quote: K-612-O
            Interestingly, and the henchmen accompanying Ololosha will burn the flamethrower like the Skripals cat?


            The ghost of a cat is haunting Europe ...
            Did the pussy go to Alyoshenka?

          2. +36
            2 September 2020 17: 54
            Quote: K-612-O
            and the henchmen accompanying Ololosha will be burned from the flamethrower, like the Skripals cat

            The cat was sorry. The cat is not guilty of anything. But about a newcomer from the lips of Germany sounds very silly.
          3. +8
            2 September 2020 18: 55
            Quote: K-612-O
            Although everything seems to be clear with shisyan, the project is closed, now they will pull out some new Guaidó and will be promoted by the year 24

            It will be difficult now to pull out the new Guaidó. now potential "candidates" are convinced with their own eyes that for some time you can eat grants until you are full, but you can not live very long. their foreign owners, depending on political necessity, can kill (shoot, poison) them ahead of schedule, like rabbits.
        2. +10
          2 September 2020 17: 38
          How can only one person be gassed on the plane? There are also darkness witnesses
          1. +12
            2 September 2020 17: 51
            Quote: seregatara1969
            How can only one person be gassed on the plane? There are also darkness witnesses

            And this is a high-precision poison! Deviation does not exceed 10cm
          2. -10
            2 September 2020 17: 53
            why gas? there is no poison in a liquid state - at the airport they dripped coffee in the airport and a mustache
            1. +18
              2 September 2020 18: 03
              Quote: Charik
              why gas? there is no poison in a liquid state - at the airport they dripped coffee in the airport and a mustache

              A strange idea about BOV. If this mythical "newcomer" is really a chemical warfare agent, as it is positioned in the west, then the requiem should have been ordered by all the cafe staff, visitors and airport employees, passengers and aircraft crew, ambulance and hospital, everyone in general who contacted. In England, over there, according to the statements of their government, a policeman walks past a bench in a park. And then there is such selectivity. Yes, and the poison is difficult to define, but with a noticeable "Russian" name (evoking the idea of ​​recent publications about the terrible program woodcutter). It would have been necessary for ours to shut up this clown's mouth - or he would die quietly, over there in the Omsk intensive care unit, or the plane would have fallen, or that rather would have sat down for a long time under any pretext, and you won't bark too much from the zone. But the funny thing is that he did not represent any threat or interest to Russia today. Elections are not coming soon, there are no serious internal crises, everyone is not up to it now, with the consequences of the crown would rage. But in one overseas country, elections are in 2 months, and many people really need a dead hero, a fighter against a bloody regime, otherwise they began to forget something terrible Russians ...
              1. -10
                2 September 2020 18: 28
                as if you are a specialist in BOV, they are liquid gaseous or in granules
                1. +8
                  2 September 2020 19: 48
                  I'm not an expert. But those guys who shouted in all Western media like a newbie almost died out - they definitely position themselves as experts. If this is such a dangerous volatile neurotoxin, then why use it on one person. There are hundreds of ways to kill a person in a less noticeable and generally dangerous way. And if it is not so dangerous - it works selectively for one goal - then what was it that decontamination was done in London? And the fact that he is alive does not speak in favor of the BOV. If they wanted to kill - well, 50 lethal doses would have been poured. Lord, a couple of grams of lousy juice of a pale toadstool would have been enough so that in the hospital they only threw up their hands and advised who to order the coffin from. And here is a terrible battle poison and nifiga ... I think a deliberate provocation with a rare non-lethal poison specifically so that there is someone to testify ...
              2. -24
                2 September 2020 18: 31
                But where do the truel of rubles go from the supply of oil and gas to America - only the bald one knows - he feeds the Yusa Democratic Party with this money and the Trumpus - so that they gnaw each other
                1. +7
                  2 September 2020 19: 49
                  Right here on the topic they fired ...
            2. +2
              2 September 2020 20: 59
              Quote: Charik
              why gas? there is no poison in a liquid state - at the airport they dripped coffee in the airport and a mustache

              However, dear, you do not just surprise, you delight with your d ...... m! If you don’t understand the concepts of chemical warfare agents, then at least google a little ... Whatever you call d ...... m!
              "...Combat poisonous substances (BOV) - toxic chemical compounds designed to destroy enemy personnel. OM can affect the body through the respiratory system, skin and the digestive tract. "Novichok" is a family of organophosphorus toxic agents of neuroparalytic action, acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. Nerve toxicants.
              By chemical structure, all substances in this group are organic compounds, derivatives of phosphorus acids. FOS cause damage, entering the body by various routes: through the skin, wound, mucous membranes of the eyes, respiratory tract, gastrointestinal tract. The main combat agents - sarin, soman, V-gases - are readily soluble in fats, organic solvents (dichloroethane, gasoline, alcohol) are easily resorbed through the skin.
              ... "Where to drop in tea? If someone trashed him, then the comrades-in-arms who were drinking moonshine with him.
              1. -8
                2 September 2020 22: 50
                google into your crack
          3. +23
            2 September 2020 17: 55
            It's not possible for screenwriters.
        3. +3
          2 September 2020 17: 55
          Quote: Insurgent
          The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group

          Yes, you will finally perform the autopsy ...

          On the BBC, this news passes like burning !!!
          On the first page. laughing
        4. +2
          2 September 2020 19: 53
          Quote: Insurgent
          The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group

          Yes, you will finally perform the autopsy ...

          You shouldn't laugh. If Navalny was really poisoned, no matter how shit he was, if a citizen of the Russian Federation was poisoned on the territory of the Russian Federation, there should be a tough response.
          1. +2
            2 September 2020 22: 10
            Quote: Quat
            You shouldn't laugh. If Navalny was really poisoned, no matter how shit he was, a citizen of the Russian Federation was poisoned on the territory of the Russian Federation, there should be a tough response
            -propose to recall the ambassador from the United States for consultations? Or just zhahnut nuclear weapons?
            1. +2
              2 September 2020 22: 33
              Quote: your1970
              propose to recall the US ambassador for consultations?

              In the quiet find who is poisoning the citizens of the Russian Federation and in the quiet to eliminate.
          2. 0
            3 September 2020 08: 32
            Quote: Quat
            poisoned a citizen of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Russian Federation, there must be a tough response.
            This is an internal affair of the Russian Federation and does not concern other countries. The assassination of J. Floyd in America did not concern other countries ...
      3. +17
        2 September 2020 17: 14
        Eh, it should have been rat poison, you can't take that as a beginner!
        1. +6
          2 September 2020 17: 54
          Quote: Anatoly 288
          Eh, it should have been rat poison, you can't take that as a beginner!

          Even dichlorvos won't take this laughing
        2. +31
          2 September 2020 17: 56
          I agree. "Novice" is some kind of weak poisonous substance. They haven't killed anyone yet.
          1. +1
            2 September 2020 18: 36
            I agree. "Novice" is some kind of weak poisonous substance. They haven't killed anyone yet.

            Kivelidi, his secretary and the autopsy pathologist would disagree with you ...
            1. +4
              2 September 2020 22: 17
              Quote: Rebe Haim
              I agree. "Novice" is some kind of weak poisonous substance. They haven't killed anyone yet.

              Kivelidi, his secretary and the autopsy pathologist would disagree with you ...

              "Spraying only one liter this poison is enough for death 25 million people, and six liters - for the population of all of Russia, of course, subject to the density of residence. "- it too strong to use it to kill a specific person
              In theory, up to 300 people should have died in Salisbury, at least those who could somehow contact the Skripals
              1. +1
                2 September 2020 22: 35
                A beginner is not the name of a single substance, but a rather extensive group of organofluorophosphorus organic compounds. At the moment, the group includes about 60 connections. Some of them are gases or easily evaporated substances, some are liquids, some exist in solid form. Compound A-234 (for example) is a thick liquid that is not subject to evaporation and belongs to the poisons of contact action (transdermal) action.
                1. +1
                  2 September 2020 23: 02
                  in love case
                  1) it is too strong to kill one specific person - there will be more victims
                  2) it is ineffective - WITHOUT antidotes, banal treatment in Omsk - survived
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            2. 0
              3 September 2020 06: 16
              Kivelidi, his secretary and the autopsy pathologist would disagree with you ...

              they were poisoned with emnip ricin. no one had heard of "newbies" then
              1. +1
                3 September 2020 12: 56
                they were poisoned with emnip ricin.

                Alas, your memory changes you greatly - the poisoning of Kivelidi in 1995 is the first documented case of the criminal use of a poison from the Novice group.
                After the death of Kivelidi's secretary and himself, the banker's office was searched. During the search, several employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs lost consciousness, after which the search continued in chemical protection suits (does it look like anything?). The pathologist who performed the autopsy of Kivelidi later died. The investigation established that the poison - a highly toxic phosphorus-containing substance - was applied to the telephone receiver in Kivelidi's office. The full composition of the poison was not disclosed at the trial in 2007, under the pretext of observing state secrets.
                At the same time, the investigation established that the poison used was synthesized and sold by an employee of the GSNIIOKhT, Mr. Rink (yes, thus, one of the authors of the Novice / s, developed / s under the Foliant program). Again, evil tongues were talking that former KGB officers were involved in the Kivelidi case. Whether it is true or not - it is not known for sure, but the Russian Themis "by chance" turned out to be very humane to Mr. Rink and he received only 1 year of imprisonment for his "art" (conditionally). All criminal cases against him were dropped.
                no one had heard of "newbies" then

                Sounds almost like an insult to scientific thought in the USSR belay
                1. 0
                  4 September 2020 04: 59
                  Alas, but your memory changes you greatly - the poisoning of Kivelidi in 1995

                  it is quite possible, I will not argue, I do not want to delve into this)) I have been reading for ten years or so an article about military agents, including ricin. The Kivelidi case was described there as an example of the use of ricin.
                  Sounds almost like an insult to scientific thought in the USSR

                  then you did not live in the USSR. Then there was the concept of state secrets. And the majority of citizens, with the exception of a small circle of those involved, did not know anything other than what was indicated in the propaganda posters of the civil society.
                  1. +1
                    4 September 2020 10: 57
                    then you did not live in the USSR

                    Well, of course he didn’t live, wasn’t it life from 1960 to 1991? lol
                    they were poisoned with emnip ricin. no one had heard of "newbies" then

                    Today's Russia still exploits the stock of knowledge and technology from the times of the USSR.
                    After the collapse of the USSR from the state. "some metamorphoses" began to occur secretly. In the year 92-93, Vil Mirzayanov (one of the leading scientists of the Foliant project) published an article in Moscow News, which exactly revealed the details of the creation of the Novichok OV group.
                    Kiveledi was poisoned in 1995.
                    In summary:
                    1. Newbie (s) - the legacy of the scientific thought of the USSR.
                    2. Even then, in 1995, they had already heard about the Newcomers.
                    1. 0
                      4 September 2020 11: 55
                      Well, of course he didn’t live, wasn’t it life from 1960 to 1991?

                      be careful with such statements - now the patriots of the USSR will shower you with rotten tomatoes
                      In the year 92-93, Vil Mirzayanov (one of the leading scientists of the Foliant project) published an article in Moscow News, which exactly revealed the details of the creation of the Novichok OV group.

                      Yes, now I rummaged in Google - I wonder, I didn't know
                      1. +2
                        4 September 2020 12: 10
                        be careful with such statements - now the patriots of the USSR will shower you with rotten tomatoes

                        Well ... I think (hope) that they will forgive me for defending the "scientific thought of the USSR" ... lol
                        However, let them have fun:
                        - You know, Monya, when you are not, they say this about you here ...
                        - Tell them, when I am NOT, they can even beat me!
      4. +4
        2 September 2020 17: 39
        Quote: Temples
        Has it been banged yet?

        Will he live in a coma?

        The Germans are wrong with poison.

        The poison is called "Old Man"

        There are witnesses who have heard how his associates proposed;
        - let's go roll on a sotochku, old man. laughing

        Quite right! And it was Ivanov and Blanshirov! Skillfully the FSB officers masquerade as Lyokh's druzhbanov, the deadly poison was changed: they confuse the tracks. But you can't fool the Germans, the Germans still figured out and exposed them! True, I had to work hard and sweat!
        1. +2
          2 September 2020 17: 52
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          The Germans cannot be fooled, the Germans have figured them out and exposed them anyway! True, I had to work hard and sweat!

          I do not believe ! No. Show the sweaty German!
          1. +7
            2 September 2020 18: 00
            So that's it already! Gently washed and wiped! And thanks to the Germans, otherwise everyone has already begun to worry: when will the Russian poison be discovered? Thank you calmed down. Now we are calmly waiting for the announcement of sanctions!
      5. +4
        2 September 2020 18: 38
        ..... The reports coming from the Federal Republic of Germany say that poison from the "Novichok" group was allegedly found in Navalny's body. This was reported by an official representative of the German government.
        ..... It should be noted that earlier a Czech professor stated that even a poison that is used in the fields against rodents can be suitable for the sounded group of poisons.

        The comparison with garbage rodents is exactly right.
    2. +12
      2 September 2020 17: 19
      Quote: Wend
      well we expected that

      Interesting news was reported, we knew for two weeks, and they woke up.
      1. +5
        2 September 2020 17: 25
        The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group

        "Absolute Beginner" ("Absolute beginners"), later just" Beginner "...

      2. 0
        2 September 2020 18: 38
        And who would doubt it!
        1. +2
          2 September 2020 18: 44
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          And who would doubt it!

          Yes, we have grandmothers who peel sunflower seeds near the house, on the second day they said "Lyokh was trapped as a Novice, a CIA neighbor said." And the Germans have just installed it.
    3. +8
      2 September 2020 17: 26
      Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group

      It began ... "The best minds of Europe" .. !!!!!!!!
      All I fell under the table .. laughing

      Waiting for sanctions and other things with laughter ..
      1. +28
        2 September 2020 17: 58
        Quote: Husit
        Waiting for sanctions and other things with laughter ..

        Sanctions will not keep you waiting. One of these days we will hear about them Yes
        1. +1
          2 September 2020 18: 49
          Quote: TriA
          Quote: Husit
          Waiting for sanctions and other things with laughter ..

          Sanctions will not keep you waiting. One of these days we will hear about them Yes

          The Western media, as soon as the bulk of the aircraft became ill, the first howl raised about the poisoning .. We still did not know!
          Also with the downed "Boeing" on the outskirts was .. The wreckage was still smoldering, and Obama declared to the whole world "The Russians were shot down" and let's impose sanctions ..))))
          I am in favor of sanctions, of course, and even to prohibit the entry of Navalny's body back into Russia! Let him sit there with Hodor and fiddle with where he spent the money to overthrow the "bloody regime" ... bully
      2. +2
        2 September 2020 19: 37
        Waiting for sanctions and other things with laughter ..
        Merkel has just officially announced that Navalny has been poisoned ̷sh̷m̷u̷r̷d̷ya̷k̷o̷m̷, ̷k̷a̷l̷o̷m̷, ̷ newbie... Most likely, SP-2 will fall under the sanctions (does anyone doubt that they will be?).
        1. 0
          2 September 2020 21: 50
          No, she is firm in this matter: Navalny is one thing, and SP-2 is another.
    4. +10
      2 September 2020 17: 40
      Wow!
      These are Russian barbarians who are inventive!
      Combat Poisoning, and even with a homing head - well, no one else got it in a confined space, only his target was rattled! Super Professionals! Respect!
      At least there were homeless creaks, but the cat with a parrot was written off by the "evil Russians" as collateral victims,
      and here - neither you nor the pilot, nor the passenger, damn it, not even a single overwhelming doctor from Charité!
      Fear the West - we will control anyone in a targeted way, even in the toilet, even in the brothel.
      But we are kind, we do not take too much!
      1. +5
        2 September 2020 17: 46
        This Newbie Lite version was smile
        1. +3
          2 September 2020 17: 56
          Well yes, DNA is the selective version.
          How long the police, the FSB, the GRU, the SVR and personally the private security company "Wagner" have been looking for, well, at least traces of the semen of this "comrade" ...
          Found at the end. And that's all, at once a terrible and terrible, charged specifically on the Leshik "newbie" flew through the hole in the plane's latrine straight into the target. Or by target.
          Alexievich must throw up the plot. You look another shnobelevka will be poured.
          I am even ready to sacrifice my percentage for the idea of ​​a plot for the development of a crappy newbie vaccine.
          1. +2
            2 September 2020 18: 45
            What a Russian is a first, then a German Novichok smile
        2. +3
          2 September 2020 18: 15
          Quote: Pessimist22
          This Newbie Lite version was

          Rather, a demo version.
      2. -10
        2 September 2020 17: 59
        the Russian authorities give the go-ahead for the treatment of the "poisoned" abroad, where they can make up any unsubstantiated diagnosis.

        So I - I sit and think: this is a kind of masochism in the Kremlin, such or just - ordinary stupidity (recently, such, typical ...) ... Yes
        1. 0
          2 September 2020 22: 27
          Quote: Snail N9
          the Russian authorities give the go-ahead for the treatment of the "poisoned" abroad, where they can make up any unsubstantiated diagnosis.

          So I - I sit and think: this is a kind of masochism in the Kremlin, such or just - ordinary stupidity (recently, such, typical ...) ... Yes
          -and here, alas, no options:
          - you won't let it out - "Bloody Mordor"
          - release - draw any diagnosis / travanut to death Leshka - "Bloody Mordor"
      3. +2
        2 September 2020 18: 49
        Quote: Vlad.by
        These are Russian barbarians who are inventive!

        I will not believe ! The Russians step on a rake only once, and here it is the third time in a row.
    5. +1
      2 September 2020 18: 01
      Quote: Wend
      laughing laughing laughing well we expected that laughing laughing


      And they all cackle: "Highly-like, high-like, high-like ..."
    6. +3
      2 September 2020 18: 25
      Pepper is clear! The insidious Putin personally, disguised as a flight attendant, a little out of the general picture, because he was in a kimano, gave Leshenka nastiness to drink ..., but then suffering from bouts of philanthropy and remorse and conscience, forced the pilots to sit in Omsk, called an ambulance, and then personally took the patient to a German clinic ... laughing

      I don't want to offend anyone, but color revolutions happen only because the people are extremely uneducated. There is an exception, the people of the USSR were the most educated people in the world, but they were let down by another trick - discipline ... The Germans have the same problems, all the press from them was bought by the Anglo-Saxons for centuries to come, and the people are just as disciplined as under the Kaiser and Hitler, once they write that Putin sent, then he. Therefore, they chant his name at the gathering ... From sin on further! laughing
    7. +1
      2 September 2020 18: 42
      Quote: Wend
      laughing laughing laughing well we expected that laughing laughing


      The active process of pulling the owl onto the globe started. Shame for the Western grief of politicians. An essay on how Navalny was poisoned. After the summer holidays. Laughter and nothing else.
      Navalny became ill while on board the plane, and German doctors suspect poisoning was the cause.
      Soviet scientist Vladimir Uglev believes that the killers could have inflicted poison on Navalny's clothes.
      According to Uglev, secret service agents could have infiltrated Navalny's hotel room.


      Navalny has been in a coma for two weeks now, and he is now undergoing treatment in a Berlin clinic. He became ill at the moment when he flew on a plane over Siberia, and German doctors suspect that the cause of his condition was poisoning.

      Friends of this critic Vladimir Putin suggested that Navalny may have drunk poisoned tea at the airport, but former Soviet scientist Vladimir Uglev said the killers could have inflicted deadly poison on Navalny's socks or underwear.

      Uglev, 73, believes that agents of the Russian secret services could have infiltrated Navalny's room in a Tomsk hotel and left a drop of poison on the dissident's clothes.

      https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200902/248045736.html
      1. +1
        3 September 2020 05: 46
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Friends of this critic Vladimir Putin suggested that Navalny may have drunk poisoned tea at the airport, but former Soviet scientist Vladimir Uglev said the killers could have inflicted deadly poison on Navalny's socks or underwear.

        Yes, everything is simpler - I bought some nasty stuff in duty free, drank ...
    8. -2
      2 September 2020 22: 52
      The chemical warfare agent was most likely introduced into some military laboratory in the Bundeswehr. Then they gave the antidote. Or maybe there was nothing but an information attack. It does not matter. It sucks that the Russian Federation is a member of various "European structures", but has no voice. And who is our foreign minister? And what is his policy?
  2. +11
    2 September 2020 17: 09
    Poisoned him in a German clinic feel
    1. +12
      2 September 2020 17: 13
      Yeah, the wrong ones were treated for a hangover. There was no pickle.
      1. -8
        2 September 2020 17: 25
        In general, if it's serious, the fact that he was poisoned is perhaps a fact. But who and why is a riddle to which we will probably never know the answer, as there will be propaganda on both sides of the barricade.
        1. +7
          2 September 2020 17: 40
          No delirium. For reference, to kill a person you need 35mg of VX (this is a small droplet, not even noticeable), a newcomer is the next generation, Lct is correspondingly even lower. This is BOV, not rat poison after all. From the very beginning it was clear that this is a performance, which was primarily organized with the help of Ololosha's entourage.
          1. -16
            2 September 2020 17: 41
            So why then he was not exposed by doctors and Nightingale did not sweep the droppings?
            So not everything is quite simple. + we don't know who, why and with what hounded. We see only what is shown.
            1. +2
              2 September 2020 22: 36
              Quote: Fibrizio
              So why then he was not exposed by doctors and Nightingale did not sweep the droppings?
              So not everything is quite simple. + we don't know who, why and with what hounded. We see only what is shown.

              who benefits?
              it would be profitable for the Russian Federation or the oligarchs - he would sit for his two terms and sew mittens. There would be one more (to MBH) "prisoner of conscience." I would really interfere very much-


              and in the current scenario, there is only one interested person - the USA
          2. -16
            2 September 2020 18: 22
            What a bunker doll will not come up with - what to divert attention from the loss of billions of dollars earned on resources belonging to the people of the country where these resources were stolen from the people
            1. +6
              2 September 2020 18: 52
              Quote: Charik
              What a bunker doll will not come up with - what to divert attention from the loss of billions of dollars earned on resources belonging to the people of the country where these resources were stolen from the people

              Horror! And there are no other ways to distract you except to expose yourself?
              You are not writing from Zhmerinka?
            2. +2
              2 September 2020 19: 25
              to divert attention from missing billions of dollars

              Don't be distracted! Keep watching.
        2. +2
          2 September 2020 17: 54
          Quote: Fibrizio
          , the fact that he was poisoned is perhaps a fact.


          Well, if only a cheburek with a cat's meat got caught ...
      2. +2
        2 September 2020 17: 43
        Quote: Fibrizio
        Yeah, the wrong ones were treated for a hangover.


        The more he poisoned himself, the more he got drunk ... Who knew recourse that they have such vigorous moonshine in Omsk ...

        On fly agarics, or what?
      3. +1
        2 September 2020 19: 00
        Quote: Fibrizio
        Yeah, the wrong ones were treated for a hangover. There was no pickle.

        The pickle was found, but for a hangover you need not drink pickle, but "knock out a wedge with a wedge", like in the morning exactly 150 grams, just what I took in the evening. And raassols, cranberry water (God forbid beer) only aggravate the process. (I am writing from experience). And one thing guys, drink only your own, and do not mix beer and wine with vodka.
        Lyokha was young and did not know these axioms. Sorry for the guy, he looks good.
    2. +24
      2 September 2020 18: 04
      Quote: ciujoilu
      Poisoned him in a German clinic feel

      Exactly. Therefore, they demanded to transfer the bulk to them in the clinic. Here are the bastards. laughing
      Seriously though, there is a feeling that the West cannot come up with anything new. Everything they could think of has already been invented as they start to repeat themselves.
  3. +27
    2 September 2020 17: 10
    Oh, how trite, girls! fellow Is the propaganda machine in the West so degraded that it is unable to give birth to something new? wassat
    1. +6
      2 September 2020 17: 16
      Quote: NEXUS
      Oh, how trite, girls!

      As I wrote, they still have Druon poisoning, like in "Cursed Kings." The same thing - Yusch, Skripali, Zavalny. And the poisoners are the same Bashirov and Petrov. Even if they wrote that they poisoned them with mushrooms, there would be more faith.
    2. +4
      2 September 2020 17: 59
      Quote: NEXUS
      Oh, how trite, girls! fellow Is the propaganda machine in the West so degraded that it is unable to give birth to something new? wassat

      Why do they need this?
      The local public is so primitive that it simply does not understand complicated things.
      And they sincerely believe in the veracity and independence of their media.
    3. 0
      2 September 2020 20: 07
      Quote: NEXUS
      Oh, how trite, girls!

      The task there is not to show creativity.
      There, the task is not a carcass, so to wrap a stuffed SP2. Mark my words.
      Well, the Germans do not know what to do to save face. And you can't just refuse GDPR and you can't disobey Uncle Sam.
      Well, it’s so hot that God doesn’t do everything for the better. Maybe he'll finally make it clear to ours that gas and oil should be processed in our country and used in our country ...
      Although it is unlikely ... winked
  4. -19
    2 September 2020 17: 11
    what kind of combat poison is it, with which the opponents of the Kremlin are supposedly "poisoned", if it is not even capable of taking a person's life ...

    It is more reasonable to ask the question, not "what kind of poison?", But "what kind of performers?"
    Whatever one may say, but the Chekists are not the same now.
    1. +18
      2 September 2020 17: 21
      oh, don't write just these nonsense) performers of what? how it never comes that it's not just poison. this is WMD. they do not poison people but destroy them. they do not survive after contact with them. they die very quickly. nobody uses them for such cases. it is a big top for or without a head of people or children. people are poisoned with chemical weapons and they do not die even if you crack. yeah. that Skripali is that this is the usual decision. for which one can only guess.
    2. +5
      2 September 2020 17: 27
      It is more reasonable to ask the question: Who will believe it? wassat
      1. +1
        2 September 2020 23: 36
        They will believe. So they will serve that they believe.
    3. -6
      2 September 2020 18: 26
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFbpj3kch0 забыл покашлять и сказать-Прошу отнестись с пониманием
  5. +16
    2 September 2020 17: 11
    What, "Newbie" again? In the West, the fantasy ended.
    Well, they would say, for example, for a change that Navalny was poisoned by the "Old Man", or something ..
    1. +8
      2 September 2020 17: 15
      Complete degradation ...
      1. +2
        2 September 2020 17: 57
        Quote: cniza
        Complete degradation ...

        Not. They just did not find the necessary video on the U-tube. And Twitter did not provide evidence.
        1. +2
          2 September 2020 18: 21
          Let in other social. the networks will rummage around, otherwise they are completely lazy. lol
          1. 0
            2 September 2020 18: 46
            Quote: cniza
            Let in other social. the networks will rummage around, otherwise they are completely lazy.

            They don't know others. They were not told about others.
            1. +2
              2 September 2020 20: 44
              So these are their problems, but in general this is already beyond the framework of understanding and world sensation ...
    2. +4
      2 September 2020 17: 22
      Quote: Comrade
      What, "Newbie" again? In the West, the fantasy ended.

      And meaning, that is, in their words, now, without a twinge of conscience, you can introduce new sanctions from Europe. The same manual as about the Skripals.
    3. +11
      2 September 2020 17: 26
      Apparently, the "Novichok" poisoning "in the case of Navalny was invented the other day, otherwise people in ordinary masks would not have transported him.

      When Skripal was "poisoned by the Novice", everything was thought out in advance, and there people in special suits staged a show.

      It turns out that when Navalny was taken to Germany, the organizers of this "poisoning" improvised on the move and had not yet decided what type of toxic substance to present.
      1. +6
        2 September 2020 17: 36
        Indeed, the entourage and scenery failed! lol
        1. +20
          2 September 2020 18: 08
          Quote: Turist1996
          Indeed, the entourage and scenery failed! lol

          Wait. Now they will fix everything and the entourage will already be appropriate Yes
    4. 0
      2 September 2020 19: 28
      What, "Newbie" again?

      This is a brand, money is invested in promotion.
  6. +7
    2 September 2020 17: 11

    The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group


    Well, who would have thought !!!! What a surprise!!!
    This has never happened, and now again. (c.)
    Stupid clowns.

    Whatever one may say, but checkmsty are not the same now.


    So this is not security officers, clown.
    1. -1
      2 September 2020 17: 34
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      So this is not security officers, clown.
      These are sacred victims who were destined to portray gay tourists in order to cast a shadow on the methods of the GRU / GU GSh.
  7. 0
    2 September 2020 17: 12
    What editors are great, the source of the photo is indicated under the note.
    1. +1
      2 September 2020 17: 17
      Quote: Fibrizio
      the source of the photo is indicated under the note.

      But at least the source is reliable.
  8. +3
    2 September 2020 17: 12
    The CIA worked on Biden and against Trump. Navalny was supposed to die on the plane, but they forgot that besides Moscow, there are other cities along the way. Thanks to the pilots ...
  9. +12
    2 September 2020 17: 14
    yes, what kind of substance is this, they are poisoned and they will not kill anyone in any way) circus
  10. +8
    2 September 2020 17: 14
    In Russia, they probably do not know about other toxic substances, except for "Novichok" from the point of view of the West. laughing
    1. +6
      2 September 2020 17: 36
      Yes, what a substance that is poisonous in figs - which, according to the account, they cannot shut their eyes ... am To me, too - a combat OV .. With such efficiency - a remedy for mosquitoes, go and even more lethal .. laughing
      1. +1
        2 September 2020 17: 39
        Why only mosquitoes? The author wrote at the end of the article:
        Н
        It should be noted that earlier the Czech professor stated that even the poison that is used in the fields against rodents can be suitable for the sounded group of poisons.

        laughing
  11. +8
    2 September 2020 17: 14
    The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group


    They themselves are not funny?
  12. +8
    2 September 2020 17: 15
    So he kind of got drunk with moonshine? Already a Newbie? request
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    2. -1
      3 September 2020 11: 03
      Quote: El Dorado
      So he kind of got drunk with moonshine? Already a Newbie?

      Newbie - First Choice .... What's the Difference
      For First, he's a Newbie. And for the Newbie, he is no longer the First.
      Come on .... Let them figure it out.
  13. HAM
    +6
    2 September 2020 17: 18
    They don't know "Pervachok" in Germany .... Lyokha tasted it .. now the head is bo-bo ..
  14. +5
    2 September 2020 17: 19
    That's not surprising at all. The theater of the absurd not only does not stop, but also reaches a new level. fool
  15. +3
    2 September 2020 17: 19
    Traitors are nowhere spared ... A bargaining chip ...
  16. +4
    2 September 2020 17: 20
    Absolute nonsense. But more than ever in time ... A remarkably stupid idea to hammer and hollow about this rotten Newbie ... after all, there is nothing else ... Navalny needs to go to New Zealand ...
  17. +7
    2 September 2020 17: 21
    Which was required ... wait!
  18. 0
    2 September 2020 17: 22
    Here is the question who travanul? There are many options to the point of jealousy, a strange story.
  19. +7
    2 September 2020 17: 24
    Yo-mine! Who would have doubted something!
    Obviously, even Petrov and Bashirov changed into stewardesses (naturally bearded) and they forced him into a "newbie". laughing
    Well, maybe the fantasy would be turned on .. And then everything is "beginner" and "beginner"
    Their creativity is tight. "Boring girls" ....
  20. +1
    2 September 2020 17: 25
    "The Cabinet of Ministers of Germany said that Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group."
    Let us train our MFA officers in Kashchenko. It is safer
    1. +1
      2 September 2020 19: 36
      Let us train our MFA officers in Kashchenko. It is safer

      And what has the Foreign Ministry to do with it? Our man, where we want, we poison there. wink
      1. +1
        2 September 2020 22: 47
        Quote: Kerensky
        And what does the Foreign Ministry have to do with it?
        - and the Foreign Ministry is forced to communicate with Kashchenko's clients - either with the Cabinet of Ministers of Germany, then with the Polish Government, then with B. Johnson .......
  21. 0
    2 September 2020 17: 27
    If this is true and our people knew about it and wanted the Germans to confirm the diagnosis, then logically an investigation should begin. And I think it was already going and the ends are already outlined. Otherwise, it made no sense to hand the poor fellow into the hands of the Germans.
  22. 0
    2 September 2020 17: 28
    Apart from dirty tricks and persecution of the Russian people, nothing should be expected from the Germans.
    1. 0
      2 September 2020 17: 40
      They live in the American-British occupation, what is the demand from them?
  23. +8
    2 September 2020 17: 29
    Honestly, as I read the title, I yelled and fell under the table, knocking over a plate of food! This is a permanent, progressive schizophrenia, because it has long ceased to be a mockery of common sense!
    And this nonsense, originally designed for imbits, is still being chased, taking into account the fact that 1) "Novichok" as such in the USSR, in principle, was never developed and was not even planned, because from the 84th a program was launched to get rid of CW, as it is prohibitively expensive for unpromising background of the development of high-precision weapons! The special services of the USSR seems to have launched a special operation "Novichok" in the late 80s, where they simulated the creation of a new OV in order to identify potential traitors, as a result of which about 10 people were spotted, who were convicted. On the other hand, the United States took the bait and began to develop similar agents and antidotes, spending about 10 yards of greenery. That is all that we have connected with Novice. 2) On the other hand, there is a huge number of special means and algorithms (for example, initiating an accident) to eliminate unwanted characters, when death is more natural than the most natural death!
    Indeed, the degradation of the leadership of the Anglo-Saxons reached menacing heights when they become dangerous and unpredictable like animals infected with rabies.
    1. +8
      2 September 2020 17: 37
      Quote: Torak
      because from the 84th a program was launched to get rid of CW


      I participate in it ...

      1. -1
        2 September 2020 18: 44
        Fry the shish kebab incorrectly - the crust is carcinogenic - the cancer can be visited. And the window is not chemistry, but I hope it is a product!
        1. +1
          2 September 2020 20: 14
          Quote: Torak
          Fry the shish kebab incorrectly - the crust is carcinogenic - the cancer can be visited. And the window is not chemistry, but I hope it is a product!


          With a kebab - distracted. On the window - nature.
    2. -5
      2 September 2020 17: 39
      Quote: Torak
      yelled and fell under the table, knocking over a plate of food!

      Careful, this
      Quote: Torak
      permanent, progressive schizophrenia

      Seek help from loved ones and avoid sitting on too high chairs to avoid injury.
  24. +9
    2 September 2020 17: 31
    Lavrov, tell them ... we know you can ... "D ...."
  25. +4
    2 September 2020 17: 32
    What rubbish! 1. To use the "infamous" poison to the whole world ?! ; 2. Why use any poison at all when there are many "undefined" ways?!; 3. The importance of Navalny is not so great to be taken seriously enough to "want" to destroy! 4. The existence "alive" of Navalny is more "beneficial" for the image of the ruling regime than his murder!
  26. +1
    2 September 2020 17: 33
    Go back to the ice axes already. Timeless classics. Reliable, fast, cheap. Well, you understand who I'm talking to.
  27. +1
    2 September 2020 17: 37
    We don't need a "newbie", not suitable, not effective! We get something more reliable from the bins and we carry out a complete DISINFECTION of our entire living space !!!
    let the pests migrate anywhere, but whoever did not have time is late!
    1. +6
      2 September 2020 17: 42
      Maybe they are confusing "Newbie" and "First"? Greetings! hi
      1. +1
        2 September 2020 18: 35
        Hi soldier
        So, they put a shadow on the fence ... that means they need something from us!
        1. +2
          2 September 2020 20: 43
          A more stupid situation than this is difficult to imagine, how they will snatch this to their citizens? ...
          1. +1
            3 September 2020 07: 37
            Hi soldier
            Lie more, lie more often, lie ALWAYS !!!
            nothing superfluous / other stuff is extremely difficult to stuff into the skull of geyropeans !!! there is already a layering of concrete, monotonous .... i.e. Something monotonous is still superimposed, there are no contradictions, consider the correction microscopic. But sho something new, not that, no longer climbs !!!
            There now only knock out with a wedge !!! but the geyropeyskie authorities are watching this ... in the same place, there is NO censorship ...
            1. +2
              3 September 2020 08: 56
              In general, the situation is very interesting, and what next? ...

              Good morning! hi
              1. +1
                3 September 2020 09: 35
                And then the Bundes Frau has elections on the nose and everything is very sour ... for us, including.
                There will definitely be green people in the government !!! and this is an international structure, consider it under the control of striped moneybags !!! I will not just shit, they will really PRESS on everyone who is not pleasing to the "big brother" !!! they will be POWER.
                It is necessary to prepare already now, there is nothing to wait for when everything will be done, for sure, not according to our scenario !!!
                It is necessary to knock out the grandmothers, take them away from wherever their paws can reach!
                The trend has already started, if you look closely at the economic and political events !!!
                The only thing that is interesting is that the "green mold" is not for prosperity, for the rise of a geyrope !!! they will generate a LOT of problems!
                The case with "our mini Fuhrer" would have been pf-e, but as a pretext, a preliminary stage of preparation, in an attempt to run over us, fits inside and out!
  28. +3
    2 September 2020 17: 37
    Ta-dumm, what a surprise, who would have thought.
  29. -2
    2 September 2020 17: 38
    German military toxicologists first poisoned Anal upon arrival in Berlin, and then accurately identified their poison.
  30. +7
    2 September 2020 17: 42
    1. Choose as a victim the one who, if he could harm, has already realized his entire resource. He handed over Russian spies and served his sentence like Sergei Skripal. He traveled to the United States and took part in the adoption by the Congress of the anti-Russian "act of Magnitsky", as Vladimir Kara-Murza. Held elections to the Moscow City Duma, pushing in the right people, and published investigations like Alexei Navalny. Tried to disrupt the World Cup like Pyotr Verzilov. Or he simply began to forget, like Dmitry Bykov. If the object is already working for your benefit, like Navalny - he legitimizes the election of the mayor of Moscow or channels the protest, bringing it to the point of absurdity and schoolchildren on street lamps - all the better and more cynical. It's pointless though.
    2. Trample only those who are branded in the West as a “fighter against the regime”. We put the rest on trial. And we certainly try to eliminate the pop politicians, to the delight of our Western partners. So that any Parkhomenko could hint with an inflated look - well, it's clear who benefits. The bloody regime of TM consumed the fiery fighter.
    3. Attack the victim at the moment when you have all the trump cards in your hands, and you can neutralize her in another, legal and dust-free way (for example, convict Navalny on the completely shameful case of insulting a 92-year-old veteran of the Great Patriotic War).
    4. Always use the same poison as a Category C Hollywood movie maniac. Even if you were taught a dozen courses in toxicology, chemistry, physiology and poisonous substances at the academy, never change your handwriting. No, this is not in order to then take responsibility for the poisoning on yourself. And then to deny their involvement. What is the logic - don't ask, spread. There are other poisons, but you take the one in the dusty box with the inscription "Newbie". Yes, overdue, so what? The manager said he would not write it off. And if we throw it out, it will deduct it from the salary. So until you take this one down, they won't give us new poisons.
    5. Make sure that atropine is administered immediately to the subject at the hospital. And call the best Moscow doctors for a consultation, like Bykov and Navalny. No, to simple, dear to our hearts, Russians, we cannot provide this. Only to enemies.
    6. Never cover your tracks. Grass where the cameras capture you against the spiers. And where the slightest change in the state of an object will be in plain sight - best of all on an airplane. There, side by side with coworkers, family or just the curious, every sneeze will be noticed, and loss of consciousness will lead to an emergency landing. Do not let Felix Edmundovich add poison for the night when the object is about to fall asleep alone. So you don't need to wake up
    7. Never cover your tracks - 2. As many people as possible should know that the object was being removed. No, no one is going to take responsibility as before. But you must prepare all the conditions for the removal of the object to the territory outside the control of the Russian special services. Desirable to Germany. Preferably, to the Charite clinic - we have a contract with them for wholesale supplies. Because the regime, remember, is cruel. We must not only poison, but also pump out the object. And if he has a recognizance not to leave, then rush to the Sledkom, resolve the issue. And then we ran to the Foreign Ministry. Let them write out a stack of visas for German doctors. We always do this when we want to crush someone from the light. And most importantly - hurry up the Ministry of Health. The object must be returned within the first three days so that the "Novichok" would hit the very first German orderly in the nose. No, the rest of the patients who paid for treatment abroad, we cannot release from the country, and in Germany they will not be accepted. We have a pandemic, closed borders and other quarantines. Even in the case of severe oncology. Navalny is another matter of national importance.
    8. Do not think down on the object. Consider his personal circumstances. Take an example from the poisoning of Petya Verzilov. The time was chosen as convenient as possible for the promotion of his investigation. As soon as he received information about “who killed Rastorguev, Dzhemal and Radchenko in the Central African Republic,” he immediately went to a hospital bed in delirium, and then to Charite. Press conferences, loud statements, Khodorkovsky on the podium chants that Verzilov found the killers, and that is why he was eliminated. And it is not our fault that Petya's investigation turned out to be an empty shell and failed. We invested in promotion like a family. And Petya, as always, let us down.
    9. If you didn't manage to etch the object to the light at the end of the tunnel, don't worry. We're not animals, we won't fine. We will give one more chance. And one more. Most importantly, do not be upset. It's always like this with us - an unlimited rate for attempts to poison someone. Couldn't you with Volodya Kara-Murza? Well, try it with Bykov. Misfire again? Let's go to Kara-Murza again. By again? Well, try with the Skripals. And it didn't work out? Come on Sergey Mokhov, the one that Lyuba Sobol's husband. Couldn't? Then take Petya Verzilov. Did not cope? Here's Alyosha Navalny as a bonus. Russia is a country of great opportunities!
    10. Well, the main commandment. Never. Do you hear, never. Do not under any circumstances kill the one you were assigned to kill. Use the "Newbie" you have been entrusted with filigree and masterly, to attract the attention of the whole world, but the victim of the regime must remain alive. Moreover, make sure that the satellites of the object are not poisoned by the volatile poison. How to do this in a confined space, decide for yourself, for that you are in uniform.
  31. +1
    2 September 2020 17: 45
    ahahahahahaha funny already simple! German agent was poisoned in the Russian Federation by a newcomer))))
  32. +1
    2 September 2020 17: 46
    Thanks, laughed.
    Hans are getting smaller.
    Longest word: Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgaben- übertragungsgesetz, well, they can.
    Well, come up with something new, by the way, it was on the news that this juggler is no longer in the clinic.
  33. 0
    2 September 2020 17: 48
    well, who would doubt that Germany states differently.
    I do not believe that Russian specialists, in the country in which the NOVICHOK was created, would not have found
    traces of this poison in Navalny's body. I don’t believe even more that if Russian specialists
    would have found traces of poisoning by NOVICHK on Navalny, so Russia would have released him in
    Germany. Someone should be the fourth in this chain of Russia-Navalny-Germany. And he was already in Germany or on the way to Germany. So that Navalny would really get this NEWCOMING. In Russia, someone from this fourth link in the chain poured a means to Navalny so that there was an excuse to transport him to Germany. and then, either on the plane or in the clinic, they immediately poisoned him with a NEWCOM. Remember the case with 33 Russian citizens who were detained in Belarus. At first, there seemed to be a chain of three links: Russia, the detainees and Belarus. And then the most important thing came out, the fourth link of the chain - a specialist. services of Ukraine ...
  34. +2
    2 September 2020 17: 49
    Okay, I somehow don't give a damn about the oval, and any citizen of a foreign country, too.
    But I thought of an unpleasant scenario. drinks Here Biden will suddenly go to the next world (and at his age it is easier than light)
    Such clever men will take and write that Hiley Likely is his GDP, a newbie trampled Trump to be re-elected ...
    And there is one step before the war sad
    1. 0
      2 September 2020 17: 53
      No, there he needs to be caught near the spiers.
    2. 0
      2 September 2020 20: 34
      Quote: bk316
      Okay, I don't care about the oval,

      As the saying goes: - "Died (no) Efim, and with him" hi
    3. 0
      2 September 2020 20: 37
      Quote: bk316
      And there is one step before the war

      What kind of war? With the use of nuclear weapons? They love to live too much .. There are no "resorts" in the bunker.
  35. +4
    2 September 2020 17: 51
    The news is bad. Whether they relate to reality does not matter. But the fact that after this all the unsubstantiated statements about the poisoning of the Skripals sharply acquire a reinforced concrete soil under them is a fact. And they justify the sanctions already imposed. And new ones that will now be.
    The fact that even the last imbecile after Salisbury would not have poisoned Navalny with the same drug, and even in both cases with a non-fatal result, given his weight in the information field ...
    Yes, comrades. I am drawn from modern politics ...
    1. +2
      2 September 2020 19: 48
      The news is bad. Whether they relate to reality does not matter.
      All messages in this topic sparkle with witty jokes and laughter, but no one wrote about the possible consequences that may occur in the near future.
      1. +2
        2 September 2020 19: 57
        What upsets me the most is that the collision comes from Germany. It seems like we are in fairly good terms with them. Both economically and politically. At the same time, the same people are in power for the Germans. Here, either behind the scenes, something has changed a lot, or Navalny was really harassed by this thing. In any case, someone has done very badly. And it is from our side.
  36. 0
    2 September 2020 17: 51
    group of poisons-Novice-Medium-Old man
  37. +3
    2 September 2020 17: 52
    Honestly, as I read the title, I yelled and fell under the table, knocking over a plate of food! This is a permanent, progressive schizophrenia, because it has long ceased to be a mockery of common sense!
    And this nonsense, originally designed for imbits, is still being chased, taking into account the fact that 1) "Novichok" as such in the USSR, in principle, was never developed and was not even planned, because from the 84th a program was launched to get rid of CW, as it is prohibitively expensive for unpromising background of the development of high-precision weapons! The special services of the USSR seems to have launched a special operation "Novichok" in the late 80s, where they simulated the creation of a new OV in order to identify potential traitors, as a result of which about 10 people were spotted, who were convicted. On the other hand, the United States took the bait and began to develop similar agents and antidotes, spending about 10 yards of greenery. That is all that we have connected with Novice. 2) On the other hand, there is a huge number of special means and algorithms (for example, initiating an accident) to eliminate unwanted characters, when death is more natural than the most natural death!
    Indeed, the degradation of the leadership of the Anglo-Saxons reached menacing heights when they become dangerous and unpredictable like animals infected with rabies.
    In addition, even 5 years ago, I said everywhere that Navalny would be liquidated by the Americans, when the CIA began to realize that, first of all, he was working not for nah but for the Kremlin. This is a signature technique, I have been observing since 96, when they get rid of their unnecessary agents by physically eliminating them and then blaming their opponent for this.
  38. -10
    2 September 2020 17: 53
    Well, what can I say ... it is obvious that there are no special services in Russia ... those who have been retired ... and the young are more concerned with filling their pockets than the security of the country.
    Everyone understands (except for our "special services") that this whole story is aimed at the death of stream 2.
    Therefore, they were taken to Germany ... A certain Zimin, he paid for everything .. and has long been supporting everyone who is against the government.
    But FESEBE can only catch bloggers for a couple of songs, or the wrong texts ... But there is a stick, the work was carried out by the extremists. It looks like the Tsar is really tired ... and can no longer do anything. complete paralysis
  39. -4
    2 September 2020 17: 58
    I don’t respect Navalny as a politician, but I don’t understand when they start to persecute him. What are the arguments against his video? Do not offer Zolotov.
  40. -1
    2 September 2020 17: 58
    I don’t respect Navalny as a politician, but I don’t understand when they start to persecute him. What are the arguments against his video? Do not offer Zolotov. As for me, so Navalny is a leech on the ass of power.
    1. +1
      3 September 2020 00: 49
      Alexey Navalny is the most courageous person in Russia.
      Real courage is the courage of a fighter, long-term and daily.
      And not a one-time feat.
      Events in Belarus hastened its liquidation. They were afraid that on the Dalny
      to the east, he will twist something similar to that on the streets of Minsk.
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        3 September 2020 09: 23

        voyaka uh (Alexey)
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        Alexey Navalny is the most courageous person in Russia.
        Real courage is the courage of a fighter, long-term and daily.
        And not a one-time feat.
        Events in Belarus hastened its liquidation. Were afraid that on Dalny
        east
        he will spin something similar to that on the streets of Minsk.
        Personally familiar ??? laughing Thousand times laughing !!! Why not in the tundra in Chukotka? Or in the vastness)) of the sands of the Arabian Sea? NOT BORED? Or are you practicing the METHOD ???? Shame !!!! wassat
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          3 September 2020 10: 00
          Quote: aszzz888
          Do you practice the METHOD ????

          Sarcasm is, "Voyaka" wanted to joke Yes
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      3 September 2020 10: 35
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      I do not respect Navalny as a politician at all.

      Greetings, Vladimir! hi
      From Navalny, a politician, like a prosecutor from a frog, he is a political figure, an oppositionist is a brawler and a hypocrite.
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      What are the arguments against his video?

      Simple, why does all his ebullient activity end with these videos, and not with statements to courts, for example, European ones?
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        4 September 2020 11: 15
        Quote: Dym71
        Why does all his ebullient activity end with these videos, and not with statements to courts, for example, European ones?

        So he wins in European courts.
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          4 September 2020 12: 07
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          So he wins in European courts.

          I’m talking about loud statements like: Chaika, Usmanov, Deripaska, I’m silent for Medvedev, why doesn’t he bring his line to its logical conclusion?
  41. +1
    2 September 2020 17: 58
    Quote: Vlad.by
    Wow!
    These are Russian barbarians who are inventive!
    Combat Poisoning, and even with a homing head - well, no one else got it in a confined space, only his target was rattled! Super Professionals! Respect!
    At least there were homeless creaks, but the cat with a parrot was written off by the "evil Russians" as collateral victims,
    and here - neither you nor the pilot, nor the passenger, damn it, not even a single overwhelming doctor from Charité!
    Fear the West - we will control anyone in a targeted way, even in the toilet, even in the brothel.
    But we are kind, we do not take too much!

    Due to the fact that everyone bypasses Sisyan a mile away, they managed to avoid unnecessary casualties
  42. +1
    2 September 2020 18: 00
    Hmm, it's clear that all this works for politics.
    Ask yourself why, after using BOV, are all alive?
    But because all this is fake, like the Skripals, they are not needed, etc.
    And Bandera is dead.
  43. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 01
    All old man.
    You highley likely gobbled up the "newbie".
    Now you will be morel first.
    Then you whisper who the executioner was.
    Well, and then a kick and silence.
    The same highley like "newbie".
  44. +1
    2 September 2020 18: 01
    World War III, economic, all means are good ..
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  46. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 09
    Quote: Torak
    And this nonsense, originally designed for imbits, is still chasing, taking into account the fact that 1) "Novichok" as such in the USSR, in principle, was never developed and was not even planned

    Yes, you understand ... no one cares, this is an operation by the Western special services aimed at denigrating Russia ... And no one is interested in all the subtleties and truth. The goal is to create an appropriate information background and impose sanctions. Which is successfully done. And the Truth? ... but who needs this Truth now.
  47. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 11
    Quote: agoran
    And Bandera is dead.

    It was the USSR with eggs ... now they are not capable of this .. alas.
    1. 0
      2 September 2020 18: 21
      Well, not a fact, the bus with Turkish pilots took off.
  48. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 11
    They poisoned him with a fool. For a very long time.
  49. +1
    2 September 2020 18: 19
    I won’t read all one hundred answers I don’t understand why it was given to the Germans well, it was clear what would happen
  50. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 22
    Well, is it time for me and the amers to slam each other on consul? After all, Newbie, kids ...
    Where else are the hotbeds of democracy left? In Eburg and Vladik, it seems?
  51. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 37
    scam for suckers. theater purely for the Western man in the street. Russia will now immediately be blamed for everything and screwed in every hole as usual, and the Foreign Ministry will express concern. It would be better if Navalny died then listen to this circus
  52. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 38
    Yes, the Krauts are sick of it! Recall the Russian ambassador to Germany, if Navalny is the “guest” of the chancellor, then Let him remain there with the rank of ambassador. The Krauts want to quarrel with Russia in a heartbeat, well, let them take the risk. Winter is upon us...
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      3 September 2020 02: 44
      And the Krauts have already started selling gas from the second Nord Stream, tickets for December 2020 - February 202, that is, they are already running out. Poland is screaming like it was cut to death... Therefore, the death of Navalny, who was released in Omsk, but who went to Germany to die, is very opportune for the United States.
      But I wonder if they will poison me or not?
  53. 0
    2 September 2020 18: 42
    Well, we must blame the Germans for the fact that at Charite, Navalny was “additionally poisoned” with the assistance of the English. Call the German ambassador, strictly indicate, announce sanctions to the English, ban on entry of 10-15 officials. HighlyLaikiRulit. In short, more crap on the fan, in war as in war.
  54. +1
    2 September 2020 18: 48
    In addition, 5 years ago, I said everywhere that Navalny would be eliminated by the Americans, when the CIA began to realize that he was primarily working not for them but for the Kremlin. I have been observing this signature technique since 96, when they get rid of their spent agents by physically eliminating them and then blaming their opponent for this.
  55. +3
    2 September 2020 18: 50
    There's not much funny here. We are gradually being led to the conclusion that Russian intelligence services are using Novichok left and right. There are a lot of American chemical and bacteriological laboratories near the borders of Russia. And when one “fine” day some region of Russia becomes extinct from “Novichok”, the entire “civilized” world will say that Putin is poisoning his people, and it is quite possible that troops will be sent in to so-called protect the population from “Novichok” and Putin.
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  58. 0
    2 September 2020 19: 00
    They forgot something about polonium and the ice ax)))) ..Well, clowns

    Germany shouldn’t have brought this Navalny to itself.. This is a challenge to Russia!
  59. +1
    2 September 2020 19: 00
    We urgently need to review the recordings from surveillance cameras, in case where Bashirov and Petrov were spotted!
    There are not so many “specialist jewelers” in handling such a specific chemical agent.
  60. 0
    2 September 2020 19: 44
    Well, how can the Nord Stream be completed now, right? )))
  61. 0
    2 September 2020 19: 53
    It was in vain that the Bundeswehr consulted in Porton Down; now the regiment has received clowns.
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  63. 0
    2 September 2020 20: 20
    Petrov and Bashirov will be deprived of their allowance! Well, what is it really? They can’t poison anyone normally anymore! The newbie is kind of defective! It's just a shame!
  64. 0
    2 September 2020 21: 07
    I did not doubt it.
    Sanctions again.
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      3 September 2020 02: 11
      The sanctions have already exhausted themselves. The end is near.
  65. 0
    2 September 2020 21: 14
    It's the Germans in retaliation! Because we have overtaken them in terms of GNP!
  66. 0
    3 September 2020 02: 41
    In Germany, gas from the second pipe has already been put up for sale; there will be deliveries in December-February.
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  68. 0
    3 September 2020 06: 32
    One gets the impression that everything is heading to the point that only “Ten Stalinist Strikes 2.0” can save the world from the monstrous German lie and the coming catastrophe, which is being prepared by crazy old people from the USA at the hands of the same Germans in Europe.
  69. 0
    3 September 2020 09: 53
    Fine. Bulk money will be raised. The United States will raise a new anti-Russian wave. In Germany, perhaps Merkel will be able to push through Nord Stream 2 (and generally carry out a rotation of power in Germany), maybe they will strengthen the US military contingent in Germany, which they were going to withdraw to Poland.
    IMHO, there is a struggle of capitals. The United States wants to enter new markets, but they don’t want to let them in. Once, for the sake of capital, the indigenous population of America was slaughtered and drunken, now they want to repeat the same thing on a global scale.
  70. 0
    3 September 2020 11: 46
    We understand that today a mortal blow has been dealt to the pro-Western group in our elite. After what happened today and will happen as a result of the introduction of sanctions, these people will have neither a political nor an economic basis for existence. If I were them, I would run. As they say: “Run, Uncle Mitya, run!”, as they said in that wonderful film.
    Details from AK: http://actualcomment.ru/posledstviya-dela-navalnogo-na-sotrudnichestve-s-evropoy-mozhno-stavit-krest-2009031038.html?utm_source=politobzor.net

    Very relevant, very objective... it will be so, no need to go to grandma!