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Turkey outraged by US decision to lift arms embargo to Cyprus

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The American decision on Cyprus has sparked outrage in Turkey. We are talking about the decision of the American administration to abandon the previously imposed embargo on the supply weapons Cyprus.


Washington's decision to lift the embargo was announced by the head of the US Department of State Mike Pompeo. The ban on the supply of weapons to Cyprus by the United States of America has been in effect for more than 30 years - since 1987.

Then the embargo imposed by the United States was associated with the need to promote the unification of the island after the Turkish occupation of its northern part. The very introduction of Turkish troops into the northern part of the island took place in the 1970s. Northern Cyprus declared independence from the rest of Cyprus and today Ankara supports this independence.

In Turkey, they say that the very emergence of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus occurred after the Greek population of the island attacked the areas of compact residence of Turkish Cypriots.

An attempt to unite the administrative divisions of Cyprus has been under way for decades. In 2004, a referendum was held in Cyprus on the unification of the island based on the principles voiced by the UN. Voting by the Greek Cypriots turned out to be a protest. While in the Turkish part of the island the majority of residents voted in favor, the Greek part of Cyprus voted against - about 75%.
To date, the independence of Northern Cyprus is recognized only by Turkey, which does not recognize the legitimacy of the authorities of the rest of the island.

The United States says that if during the long-term embargo on arms supplies to Cyprus, no progress has occurred to de-escalate the conflict between the South and the North, then the ban on arms supplies is meaningless. And so the ban is lifted.

In Turkey, such a step is considered capable of leading to incitement of an armed conflict on the island, where the situation has remained calm recently.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 2 September 2020 09: 47 New
    +3
    Greece and Cyprus are now in the US pack.
    1. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 09: 54 New
      -3
      Quote: Livonetc
      Greece and Cyprus are now in the US pack.

      Not for the first time. History repeats itself. Turkey will repeat history along the way. Greece Can't Get It!
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 2 September 2020 10: 01 New
        +8
        Well, of course) you think in the region everyone stands up for Greece. and Turkey has turned itself against everyone there) everything will be exactly the opposite. Turks walk on the edge of a knife.
        1. Sefevi2020
          Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 11: 09 New
          -7
          Quote: carstorm 11
          everything will be exactly the opposite. Turks walk on the edge of a knife.

          Greeks are not warriors. Turks are warriors. These people can be killed but not broken. Believe me!
          1. Liam
            Liam 2 September 2020 11: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: Sefevi2020
            Turks are warriors

            Over the past 200 years, only the lazy has not hit these warriors
            1. Sefevi2020
              Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 11: 45 New
              -4
              Quote: Liam
              Over the past 200 years, only the lazy has not hit these warriors

              Before that, look how much they beat. So your arguments are not entirely appropriate. We'd better wait and see how it ends.
              1. Liam
                Liam 2 September 2020 11: 49 New
                +3
                Fuck what arguments ... Since the Roman Empire beat everyone for a thousand years, then the Italian army is the coolest in the world))
                1. Sefevi2020
                  Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 12: 00 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Liam
                  Fuck what arguments ..

                  that's exactly to go nuts. you gave an example 200 years ago, not me. And if you are not aware of 100 years ago, the battle of Cankala, then the whole world attacked the Turks and what could they do? ))))))))))))) They lost. All the Atalanta countries lost to Turkey alone.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 2 September 2020 12: 05 New
                    +4
                    And as a result of these mighty victories, the Ottoman Empire disintegrated into dozens of fragments.
                    1. Sefevi2020
                      Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 13: 05 New
                      -5
                      Quote: Liam
                      And as a result of these mighty victories, the Ottoman Empire disintegrated into dozens of fragments.

                      And Tsarist Russia collapsed and? By the way, plus or minus the same years.
                      1. Liam
                        Liam 2 September 2020 13: 21 New
                        +4
                        It disintegrated ... but rather quickly over the course of several years it was recreated back and fought several more wars after that, winning the most important of them in 1945.
                        Tell us about the military successes of the Turkish troops in the wars with the world powers for the last 100 years, say. Feats in the form of regular (once every 10 years) military coups in your own country and punitive operations against Kurdish peasants should not be offered
                      2. Sefevi2020
                        Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 18: 07 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Liam
                        punitive operations against Kurdish peasants

                        Крестьян? Террористы с оружием и устраивающие теракты уже крестьянами называются? Это уже так называется? Проект СССР "Рабочая партия Курдистана " против Турции это уже крестьяне называются? Вот так и все ваши доводы и история.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 2 September 2020 12: 11 New
          +3
          you are very inattentive. for the Greeks everything. no one behind the Turks. warriors can they are so-so, but they are not alone. no one will allow them to win purely because of geopolitics. both Israel and Europeans will fit in. one way or another, but they will definitely fit.
    2. GrigK
      GrigK 2 September 2020 15: 32 New
      +3
      Turks are strong when everyone else is weak. History cannot repeat itself. It's not 1974 now.
  2. borberd
    borberd 2 September 2020 10: 00 New
    +8
    Rather, Turkey has played out. The Turks' favorite game lately is to pull the big and strong by the tails. Soon, not only the USA and Europe, but also Russia will get tired of it.
    1. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 11: 13 New
      -6
      Quote: borberd
      Rather, Turkey has played out.

      How did you end up badly?) What did they do?

      Quote: borberd
      Soon, not only the USA and Europe, but also Russia will get tired of it.

      :) The loss of Turkey in the person of the United States will cost a lot. In all respects. It's just that the Turks will close 2 bases and say dosvidos. And there are a lot of things in 2 bases. Supplement .... does the US need the 2nd army after the US to be friends with Russia?
      What will Europe do? Have you been to Turkey? If they open the door and tell millions of Arabs to emigrants go to Europe, then what will happen to Europe?)))))))
      Force cannot take Turkey. Not only that, Pakistan is uniquely Turkey's nuclear shield. Don't forget this. And she can beat. Next, who was left, Russia ..... is it necessary to quarrel with Turkey, ask yourself a question?
      1. borberd
        borberd 2 September 2020 11: 41 New
        +4
        If the Turks continue to be impudent, they will lose both Europe and the United States. And these are factories of European and American manufacturers in Turkey. They will be denied access to European and American technologies. They will cut in sanctions, an embargo on the military, the borders will be closed. The Greeks, if there is a conflict with the Turks, will not be left alone. Because with the Turks - because of Erdogan, all European leaders do not get along.
        Если турки откроют границы для беженцев , то европейцам ничего не останется как закрыть их военными и депортировать всех кто их попробует пересечь . Это уже делали в прошлом венгры и греки . Соответственно турки лишатся миллиардов евро на содержание бешенцев , получат ещё больше санкций . Американцы по любому закроют свои базы в Турции . Это вопрос времени . В своё время с Инджерлика ушли немцы с "Патриотами" , из-за хамского отношения турков , которых они защищали . Американцы следующие на очереди . У паков свои проблемы с индусами , лезть ещё в конфликт с европейцами и американцами из-за турков ? - Очень сомнительно .
        1. Sefevi2020
          Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 11: 54 New
          -5
          Quote: borberd
          If the Turks continue to be impudent

          What do you mean by the word impudent?

          Quote: borberd
          then they will lose both Europe and the USA

          Do you think that friendship with Europe is important to the Turks, which has been throwing them for 20 years with joining the Eurozone, blackmailing genocide, and so on, or is it important for them to have friendship with the United States, which also throws them, either with an airplane, or with the Kurds, or are they still interested in national interests? I think the answer is obvious

          Quote: borberd
          They will be denied access to European and American technologies

          Did I miss something. That they were given access?))))))))))))

          Quote: borberd
          Packs have their own problems with Indians

          100.000 army of Pakistan is waiting for only 1 call from Azerbaijan to come to the rescue. Do you know about this? The President of the country and the military establishment openly stated, I quote ... Let the enemies of Turkey not frighten brotherly Turkey with nuclear weapons, their brother in the person of Pakistan has. Understand that moving the base from Turkey is not profitable. Not in terms of territories. Not in terms of logistics. And a billion dollars for the millions of refugees in Turkey does not make the weather. Why? and YOU read how much the international bank gives dough for the Euro zone for 1 refugee. You will understand me.

          Quote: borberd
          The Pak have their own problems with the Indians, to climb into a conflict with the Europeans and Americans over the Turks? - Very doubtful.

          In vain doubt.
          1. borberd
            borberd 2 September 2020 13: 31 New
            +7
            Quote: Sefevi2020
            What do you mean by the word impudent?

            Interference in the internal affairs of many countries, intimidation, unmotivated aggression, etc.
            Quote: Sefevi2020
            Do you think that friendship with Europe is important for the Turks, which has been throwing them for 20 years with joining the Eurozone, blackmailing genocide, and so on, or is it important for them to have friendship with the United States, which also throws them, either with an airplane, or with the Kurds, or are they still interested in national interests?

            Not just important, but necessary. All their technologies are European, American. Europe is a huge market for Turkish products. If the Americans and Europeans move their factories from Turkey, then the Turkish economy will be covered with a copper basin. If, in addition, Israel blocks the transit of Turkish goods to the Arabian Peninsula through the port of Haifa, then the Turks will bend completely. The Turks now have troubles with all the countries of the region, except maybe Qatar and half of Libya.

            Quote: Sefevi2020
            Did I miss something. That they were given access?))))))))))))

            Sure . They freely buy technologies and equipment from Europeans.
            Quote: Sefevi2020
            100.000 army of Pakistan is waiting for only 1 call from Azerbaijan to come to the rescue. Do you know about this?

            I wonder where the packs were when the Armenians seized Karabakh from Azerbaijan? And why, if there is such support, is Karabakh still Armenian? Something you are dark dear. laughing
            Quote: Sefevi2020
            Understand that moving the base from Turkey is not profitable.

            Seriously ? But how are the Americans relocating their bases from Germany to Poland? The Turks played too much - they didn't get the F-35. They will lose everything else that is.
            Quote: Sefevi2020
            And a billion dollars for the millions of refugees in Turkey does not make the weather. Why?

            During this time, the Turks received more than one billion. And they still keep an army of rabies on the border to terrorize Europe with them. Eventually Europe will get tired of it.
          2. GrigK
            GrigK 2 September 2020 15: 39 New
            +3
            Let's who will wind up more))) packs for the Turks, the Indians against the packs, the Chinese and the Indians against each other and together against the Turks .... and so the 3rd world smelled. So it is better for the Turks not to harakhoris))) Because of them, the kopeck will come to everyone.
        2. avib
          avib 2 September 2020 12: 42 New
          +3
          It seems that Greece has already allocated several islands to NATO (USA) for the creation of military bases. And even the construction of infrastructure has begun.
      2. Liam
        Liam 2 September 2020 11: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        Losing Turkey in the face of the United States would be very costly. In all respects. It's just that the Turks will close 2 bases and say dosvidos. And there are a lot of things in 2 bases

        For rogues, the base is worth it. For NATO-2 kopeks. Moreover, after the closure the Turks will have empty hangars and a concrete runway.
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        2nd army after USA

        Perhaps in terms of numbers. In terms of equipment and funding, at the end of the top ten, God forbid
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        If they open the door and tell millions of Arabs to emigrants go to Europe, then what will happen to Europe?)))))))

        One figure has already played these games ... Gaddafi was called. He ended up badly like that. And for such games the undersultan will receive such a fan of sanctions that the half-dead Turkish economy will give its soul to God in a couple of months. And the grateful people will raise the undersultan to a pitchfork.
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        Pakistan is uniquely Turkey's nuclear shield.

        ))) little honor for the alleged second NATO army... by the way .. and the packs themselves know that they cover the Turks?
        1. Sefevi2020
          Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 12: 05 New
          -3
          Quote: Liam
          ))) little honor for the alleged second NATO army ... by the way .. and the packs themselves know that they are protecting the Turks?

          Carefully study the meeting of Erdogan with Mamnun Hussein)))))))

          Quote: Liam
          One figure has already played these games ... Gaddafi was called. He ended badly like that.

          Are you comparing Gaddafi and his army with the Turkish one?))))))
          1. Liam
            Liam 2 September 2020 12: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Sefevi2020

            Carefully study the meeting of Erdogan with Mamnun Hussein)))))))

            With the heads of what other tribes has Erdogan met recently ... so that he could study everything at once and not go twice)
            Quote: Sefevi2020
            the army

            ))) The army does not really help with economic sanctions.
            1. Sefevi2020
              Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 13: 06 New
              -3
              Quote: Liam
              With the heads of what other tribes has Erdogan met recently ... so that he could study everything at once and not go twice)

              in fact, he was the president of Pakistan)
              1. Liam
                Liam 2 September 2020 13: 12 New
                +3
                Naturally, the truth is, Pakistan and its former head are so important in world affairs that no one except the Turkish propagandist on the website has heard about them and their negotiations with Erdogan.
                Country-scale geopolitics is not a joke.former the president of a beggar Pakistan allegedly promised the undersultan that he would fit into a nuclear war, by old friendship, with ... who by the way? NATO? China? Russia? ... the whole world shuddered from this epochal event ... by the way, what kind of income is there for Pakistan From this?
                1. GrigK
                  GrigK 2 September 2020 15: 43 New
                  +3
                  Как же. Сам "Султан похлопает по плечу и повесит медаль сутулого бывшему племенному вождю"
                  1. Sefevi2020
                    Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 18: 09 New
                    -1
                    Quote: GrigK
                    Сам "Султан похлопает

                    If Erdogan is the Sultan, who is Putin?
                    1. GrigK
                      GrigK 2 September 2020 19: 04 New
                      +3
                      Putin is a chess player who moves several hundred sultans like Erdogan on the chessboard.
          2. pytar
            pytar 2 September 2020 12: 59 New
            +4
            Study the meeting of Erdogan with Mamnun Hussein carefully)

            Mamnoon Hussein - Pakistani statesman, politician, former President of Pakistan from 2013 to 2018. Here is the key word former! hi
            1. Sefevi2020
              Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 13: 06 New
              -3
              Quote: pytar
              The key word here is ex!

              and what changes from the word ex?)
              1. borberd
                borberd 2 September 2020 13: 38 New
                +6
                In principle, everything. The former are not responsible for anything. They can say whatever their interlocutors expect from them. They don't have to keep their promises.
              2. pytar
                pytar 2 September 2020 14: 11 New
                +3
                and what changes from the word ex?)

                Captain obvious: Nothing depends on Hussein! He has no I.O.!
      3. pytar
        pytar 2 September 2020 12: 26 New
        +5
        Go gambling, the stakes go up! But not everything is as simple as you imagine it!
        The loss of Turkey in the person of the United States will be very expensive ... It's just that the Turks will close two bases and say dosvidos. And there are a lot of things in 2 bases.

        Turkey gets a lot of money from the United States for renting bases! Turtsaya is important for the USA, but not so much that it is irreplaceable!
        What will Europe do? Have you been to Turkey? If they open the door and tell the million Arabs to emigrate go to Europe, then what will happen to Europe?

        Turkey receives from the EU billions of euros per year for the maintenance of migrants! And the money is for sure, the Turks know how to count!
        Force cannot take Turkey.

        Nobody needs it. And so, it is enough to start helping the Kurds and Turkey, there will be very serious problems! In addition, the Turkish economy is so dependent on the EU and the United States that even a slight gesture of the latter will cause a collapse, from which Erdogan will not emerge.
        Not only that, Pakistan is uniquely Turkey's nuclear shield.

        Completely wrong hardening! Torn away from reality! Pakistani military doctrine provides for the use of Ya.O., only with an extreme threat to the existence of Pakistan itself! Nobody will be bombed with I.O. Pakistan over Turkey!
        Russia ..... is it necessary to quarrel with Turkey, ask yourself a question?

        It is not necessary, as Russia absolutely does not need a new Ottoman Empire on the border.
      4. businessv
        businessv 3 September 2020 23: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Sefevi2020
        If they open the door and tell millions of Arabs to emigrants go to Europe, then what will happen to Europe?)))))))
        А кто Вам сказал, что Европа эту самую дверь изнутри шваброй не подопрёт? В Германии давно были? Там уже не только "наши" немцы арабам морды чистят, но и местные, коренные. Арабы своей местечковой тупостью умудрились достать всех, поэтому их не примут без договорённости.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 2 September 2020 11: 31 New
      +3
      Jews sold offshore gas rights to an American company. The Turks prevent the EU and Cyprus and Israel from conducting intelligence there. Now let's see how they will hinder the Americans.
  3. Finches
    Finches 2 September 2020 10: 07 New
    +3
    Вся фишка в этом споре, который закончится войной, мне кажется, что это практически неизбежно из-за найденных здесь богатых нефтегазовых ресурсов. В схватке за контроль над ними никто не хочет отступать. Стремясь "застолбить" свои права на богатые газом морские шельфы, Турция договорилась с Ливией, а греки, с Египтом. Но Турция не признает греко-египетский договор о разграничении границ, а греки не признают договор турок... Всполошились немцы - бросились их помирить, но пока не очень получается! Там еще и турецкие исторические амбиции, которые издревле считали, что границы не справедливо нарисованы... А американцы и здесь действуют по классической схеме - разделяй и властвуй! Особенно им нужно, подогревая этот конфликт, воздействовать через него на Меркель...Короче "Англосаксы гадят", это не просто мем ("Англичанка гадит"), а постоянно, исторически подтверждающее действо!
    1. Sefevi2020
      Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 11: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Finches
      There are also Turkish historical ambitions, which from ancient times believed that the borders were not fairly drawn ...

      the whole carousel is precisely because of this.

      Quote: Finches
      And the Americans here, too, act according to the classic scheme - divide and conquer!

      I agree. From and to. But this scheme fails after a certain time. Serious failure.
    2. businessv
      businessv 3 September 2020 23: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Finches
      There are also Turkish historical ambitions, which from ancient times believed that the borders were not fairly drawn ...
      Fairly noted! good
  4. Civil
    Civil 2 September 2020 11: 19 New
    0
    The Turks were deceived and not taken into the EU, this was the beginning of the alienation of the Turks from Europe ...
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 2 September 2020 11: 35 New
      +2
      Nobody called them there, and they try to remove the Turks from themselves.
      1. Sefevi2020
        Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 11: 56 New
        -4
        Quote: Free Wind
        Nobody called them there, and they try to remove the Turks from themselves.

        Italy, Britain called. Enough?
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 2 September 2020 12: 45 New
          +5
          What were their names? Nobody called them, this is possible only at the General Council of Europe. And there they were given demands that the Turks, or rather the government, are not very willing to fulfill. Well, there is also a territorial conflict. The EU does not shine for them.
        2. GrigK
          GrigK 2 September 2020 15: 46 New
          +4
          Poor Italians and British. They did not wait (((. And Britain in general, as a sign of solidarity with the Sultan, left the EU.
        3. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 6 September 2020 18: 00 New
          -1
          Italy, Britain called. Enough?


          Turkey was given a chance to start negotiations on entering the EU. But no one in Europe will tolerate a medieval under-sultanate. And therefore turn from the gate. And so Turkey has broken relations with absolutely all significant states of the world and it has no unconditional friends. There the Azeri sixes do not count ... but will quarrel with Russia, Shtami, the EU, Jews and Saudis - this talent must be had ... and if Erdogan starts a serious war, then this time Turkey will disappear altogether and the Russians will have a chance again to take Constantinople as a contingent of peacekeepers, which is very joyful for me. In general, I will give a banquet for joy ...
  5. halpat
    halpat 2 September 2020 11: 58 New
    -3
    Quote: Livonetc
    Greece and Cyprus are now in the US pack.

    when people get used to the fact that there is no US pack.
    There is the USA and the rest - "inferior races".
    1. The United States absolutely does not care who supplies weapons - if only the money goes. In addition to real opponents (Russia, China).
    2. It is very good if at the same time a bloody booze flares up - you can sell more.
    3. In steeped porridge, muddy water, you can catch tasty fatty additional fish - Afghan drug trafficking, Syrian oil.
    4. Along with clause 3, you can distribute sanctions, create coalitions, then change / reformat them. today some "allies", tomorrow others, who were yesterday's enemies.

    The noble goal is to stay on top of this fetid, self-made pile for as long as possible.
  6. RealPilot
    RealPilot 6 September 2020 22: 12 New
    -1
    Trumpusha is breaking a harmonious policy, eroding the foundations of the world order built by the Americans. One can only rejoice laughing

    It's just that the system of sanctions, international law in general, arms control are the dictates of the powerful.
    And those who have strong positions, long-term planning and inevitable punishment for violating their will.

    And then everything starts to crumble, even the allies do not understand where to go to sail in the channel of the United States. Impulsiveness and inconsistency, loss of moral and value orientations are alarming symptoms for the United States. In many ways, manifested recently ...
  • yfast
    yfast 2 September 2020 09: 51 New
    +6
    To date, the independence of Northern Cyprus is recognized only by Turkey, which does not recognize the legitimacy of the authorities of the rest of the island.
    Here's how to admit the DPR, LPR, Ukraine - no.
  • Sefevi2020
    Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 09: 57 New
    +1
    I enjoy how the United States is doing everything to get Turkey out of NATO. Well done! Along the way, the days when the American base will be kicked out of Turkey are not far off.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 2 September 2020 11: 04 New
      10
      So it will be, I think. Turkey has ceased to meet NATO criteria,
      and she will be forced to leave the block. And the base, of course, will be moved to another location.
      1. Sefevi2020
        Sefevi2020 2 September 2020 11: 17 New
        -6
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Turkey has ceased to meet NATO criteria and will be forced to leave the bloc.

        Who thinks so?

        Quote: voyaka uh
        And the base, of course, will be moved to another location.

        Do you know how much it costs? Where will they move?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 2 September 2020 11: 23 New
          10
          The base will be transferred to one of the Greek islands.
          It's not as expensive as it sounds.
          The Americans are rapidly building new bases and just as
          quickly dismantle old ones (Iraq, Germany).
          1. gorenina91
            gorenina91 2 September 2020 11: 51 New
            +1
            The base will be transferred to one of the Greek islands.
            It's not as expensive as it sounds.
            The Americans are rapidly building new bases and just as
            quickly dismantle old ones (Iraq, Germany).

            -Ha ... so why would the Americans remove their base from Turkey at all ???
            -Они просто создадут ещё одну новую базу ... -да хоть на "греческих островах"...
            -Это как раз и для обнаглевшего Эрдогана будет "уроком-противовесом"...
            - Yes, and it is unlikely that Turkey will be expelled from NATO in the coming decades ...
            -It might someday ...
            It is a pity only - to live in this wonderful time
            I don’t have to - neither to me, nor to you.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 2 September 2020 18: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        So it will be, I think. Turkey has ceased to meet NATO criteria,
        and she will be forced to leave the block. And the base, of course, will be moved to another location.

        There is no problem to leave, it is more difficult to return, and therefore they will use every chance to keep their base in Turkey. Erdogan will not last forever, and Turkey will remain in the same place and it is too wasteful and shortsighted to close the base because of one person, even the mattresses understand this. They are like cockroaches, if they start up, then you will bring out the figs, and it remains only to either poison them all without exception with dichlorvos, or burn them together with the hut, otherwise there is no other way. But to stick in another base in Greece, under this noise, they can quite.
  • askort154
    askort154 2 September 2020 10: 05 New
    +2
    Turkey is outraged by the US decision to lift the embargo on arms supplies to Cyprus.

    Useless indignation. Now the United States will begin supplying its weapons there, or will deploy its base.

    The United States says that if during the long-term embargo on arms supplies to Cyprus, no progress has occurred to de-escalate the conflict between the South and the North, then the ban on arms supplies is meaningless. And so the ban is lifted.

    Mind-blowing, purely American logic. fool
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 2 September 2020 10: 10 New
    -2
    Still, the Trump administration must be rewarded in full !!!! So to quarrel with their key allies - Germany, France, Turkey, instead of rapprochement, to start squabbles with China - this also pulls the Hero's Golden Star. Yes, and the ranks can be raised, I think.
    1. askort154
      askort154 2 September 2020 11: 09 New
      0
      RUnnm /// Still, the Trump administration needs to be rewarded in full !!!! this also pulls the Hero's Golden Star. Yes, and the ranks can be raised, I think.

      What are you doing! negative CNN - constantly grazes on VO. Tomorrow the whole world will know that Trump is an FSB agent, and this is not just HALI LIKLI, but a reliable source from VO! crying
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 2 September 2020 11: 22 New
        +1
        good It will be just an ideal option - let them devour each other there: Trumps, Biden, Pompeos, Clintons ... let it be like with scorpions in a bank - it will only make the world easier.
        But in order not to issue Trump's command like this, the Democrats also need to be rewarded. Biden, twice. One of which is CAM, personally!)))
  • Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 2 September 2020 10: 12 New
    -2
    Разделяй и властвуй. США даже своими "союзниками" не гнушаются манипулировать ради собственной выгоды. С курдами не вышло - США кинули курдов под турецкий каток. С мятежом Гюлена не получилось - подойдем с боку Греции.Что-то мне подсказывает,что греки были в курсе,если приняли беглых мятежников, осудили за нарушение границы на 2 месяца,но отказали Турции в выдаче. Если здесь не выгорит нагнуть Эрдогана то что? Очередная балканская заварушка, как всегда приводящая к мировой войне!?
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 2 September 2020 12: 47 New
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      Ours also kissed the gums with the Kurds.
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 3 September 2020 08: 57 New
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        Quote: Free Wind
        also kissed the Kurds on the gums

        There was a case under the USSR. But then the EBN gave the PKK chairman Abdullah Ocalan to the Turks and the friendship with the Kurds ended, but with the Turks it did not start. What is happening now is a purely ad hoc alliance.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 2 September 2020 10: 15 New
    +1
    Желаю им хорошей зарубы, дабы хвалёное "единство" этого блока по всем швам затрещало. Пусть лучше натовцы друг с другом разбираются, чем к нашей поляне прицеливаются.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 2 September 2020 10: 26 New
    +8
    I have already asked several times on VO:
    Почему россияне так топят за Эрдогана несмотря на то, что он уже всеми четырьмя ногами в Сирии, в полый рост в Ливии, воду варит в Ливане, "втыкал нож" в спину (сбил российский штурмовик), голосовал в ООН "ЗА" принятие санкций в отношении России после крымских событий, перебивает оружейные сделки и поставляет беспилотники Украине?

    No one answers anything intelligible, apparently they themselves do not know, but they minus regularly. lol
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 September 2020 10: 41 New
      +4
      no one drowns for him. it's like in sports - someone is sick of someone. that's all.
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 September 2020 11: 05 New
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      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
      Today, 10: 26
      NEW
      +1
      I have already asked several times on VO: .... No one answers anything intelligible, apparently they themselves do not know, but minus regularly ..
      And everyone rushed to explain and report! laughing And minus means doing the right thing! bully
    3. Polymer
      Polymer 2 September 2020 11: 41 New
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      Почему россияне так топят за Эрдогана несмотря на то, что он уже всеми четырьмя ногами в Сирии, в полый рост в Ливии, воду варит в Ливане, "втыкал нож" в спину (сбил российский штурмовик), голосовал в ООН "ЗА" принятие санкций в отношении России после крымских событий, перебивает оружейные сделки и поставляет беспилотники Украине?

      А что тут непонятного? "Топят" вовсе не за Эрдогана, а за то, чтобы он как можно больше наделал гадостей США, и как можно больше внес раздора в НАТО. Вот и вся "любовь". Сам по себе неосултан никому не интересен как союзник, тем более друг. "Полезные дураки" называл таких персонажей В.И. Ленин.
      1. borberd
        borberd 2 September 2020 11: 47 New
        +5
        So far, he doesn't shit a lot to Americans. But you in Syria shit on a large scale. The Idlib viper has not been cleared.
      2. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 2 September 2020 12: 07 New
        +5
        Quote: Polymer

        А что тут непонятного? "Топят" вовсе не за Эрдогана, а за то, чтобы он как можно больше наделал гадостей США, и как можно больше внес раздора в НАТО. Вот и вся "любовь". Сам по себе неосултан никому не интересен как союзник, тем более друг. "Полезные дураки" называл таких персонажей В.И. Ленин.

        In other words, it doesn’t matter that he beats you in both hands, it is important that he shows the staff a fig in his pocket.
        Well, what can I say, a wise policy.
        No objection.
        Continue in the same spirit. hi
        1. Polymer
          Polymer 2 September 2020 12: 14 New
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          Quote: A. Privalov
          In other words, it doesn’t matter that he beats you in both hands, it is important that he shows the staff a fig in his pocket.

          Ну, кому он больше "серит" - вопрос текущего момента. Когда вы стреляете из винтовки, пороховые газы, не очень полезные для здоровья, остаются рядом с вами, так или иначе вы их вдыхаете. А пуля при этом летит во врага.
      3. Free wind
        Free wind 2 September 2020 12: 50 New
        +1
        Lenin never said anything of the kind. But, obliging, worse than the enemy, there is such an expression, only it is rather a popular proverb.
        1. Polymer
          Polymer 2 September 2020 13: 12 New
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          Quote: Free Wind
          Never, nothing like V. And Lenin did not say

          Ленин такого не писал - это доказано. Но вот Карл Радек утверждает, что он это говорил. Правда, изначально "полезные и-диоты".
    4. GrigK
      GrigK 2 September 2020 15: 27 New
      +6
      Maiden memory; - that's why.
      They are our pilot; - we give them a gas pipeline so that later they can blackmail them, and they took gas at our discretion.
      They are our ambassador; - we give them a nuclear power plant (on credit for ..... twelve years). And then either the donkey dies or the donkey owner ...
      The list goes on ...
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 2 September 2020 18: 26 New
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      он уже всеми четырьмя ногами в Сирии, в полый рост в Ливии, воду варит в Ливане, "втыкал нож" в спину (сбил российский штурмовик), голосовал в ООН "ЗА" принятие санкций в отношении России после крымских событий, перебивает оружейные сделки и поставляет беспилотники Украине?
      Well, not with four legs, but one, with which he kicks the Kurds, and the other got stuck in Libya. But we are not officially present in Libya. Prime Minister Jovushoglu stuck a knife in his back (he himself admitted), hoping to move the Sultan off the throne, but he himself flew from the prime minister's post. On Crimea, he has the same position as we have on Crete - we do not recognize Turkey's protectorate over its northern part, and Turkey does not recognize Crimea as ours. The fact that he put 6 Bayraktars on the dill, they don't make much of the weather, moreover, we are not at war with Ukraine. Even Bulgarians are now throwing off weapons there, not to mention mattresses. One Bayraktar ukrovoiny already stuck into the ground with their own crooked hands, transferring to the category of donor for the remaining five.
      Quote: A. Privalov
      I have already asked several times on VO:
      Why are the Russians drowning so much for Erdogan ... No one answers anything intelligible, apparently they themselves do not know

      Не то что бы топят, но то что делает Эрдоган в плане расшатывания "внутриНАТОблоковой трубы" нас вполне устраивает.
    6. Shraik
      Shraik 2 September 2020 21: 55 New
      -1
      Because at the moment Erdogan is the main irritant in the NATO camp. It's enough.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 September 2020 11: 02 New
    -3
    American decision on Cyprus caused outrage in Turkey.
    Look at it live. laughing
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 September 2020 14: 24 New
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    Gentlemen, what are you breaking the stakes over the bonal tactics of amers, namely, trade with your opponent's opponent? Nothing will lead to anything - maximum verbal battles of diplomats.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 2 September 2020 21: 05 New
    +1
    The American decision on Cyprus has sparked outrage in Turkey. We are talking about the decision of the American administration to abandon the previously imposed embargo on the supply of arms to Cyprus.

    Che the Turks from the oak tree collapsed all the Armed Forces of Cyprus seem to be armed with Russian weapons ... and until recently, many of our military rested in Cyprus ...
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 3 September 2020 08: 40 New
    +1
    Решением госдепа американские фирмы смогут в течение года поставлять Кипру "нелетальное" военное оборудование. Вот и вся "отмена" эмбарго. Шума много.
    You might think that Cyprus has not bought such equipment for 30 years.