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Lukashenka said that he “sculpted” Belarus on the ruins of the empire

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Alexander Lukashenko made a statement regarding his tenure in the main post of Belarus. According to the head of state, he is in the presidency not in order to hold on to power for his own sake, but for the sake of not coming to power by "lords and scoundrels".


Lukashenko:

There are hundreds of thousands, millions of people behind me.

During his speech, Lukashenka said that “some in Russia say that he (Lukashenka) is holding onto power with blue fingers”.

Lukashenko:

It's not about the power, I just don't want to cut the country to pieces.

According to the President of the Republic of Belarus, he “sculpted Belarus on the ruins of the empire”.

Alexander Lukashenko said that if the "urks" come to power, then in Belarus "there will be such a massacre that even the Ukrainian events will seem like flowers."

Those who take to the streets to protest, Lukashenka once again did not even try to somehow hear and calm down with relatively diplomatic statements, but again called "fools who play with fire." For obvious reasons, such an epithet, to put it mildly, did not add Lukashenka's credibility on the part of those protesting against his policies.

Meanwhile, representatives of the Belarusian opposition are demanding that Lukashenka give a specific date for the constitutional reform.
It is noted that if Lukashenka names this date and holds new elections in accordance with the new constitution in the near future, the situation in the country will calm down. Lukashenka himself does not intend to name any specific dates at the moment.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 September 2020 07: 59
    -14 qualifying.
    Lukashenka said that he “sculpted” Belarus on the ruins of the empire
    Thank you, of course, but what to sculpt if everything was. Army, government, oh yes, the LAW. Oh well.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 2 September 2020 08: 03
      16
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Thank you, of course, but what to sculpt if everything was. Army, government, oh yes, the LAW. Oh well.

      Well, not well, but how some other "fragments of the empire" have "blinded" themselves.
      And the head of state, as a "sculptor", is not at all the last element of this process ...

      Is it not fair that all of us, practically from scratch, had to learn to live in new, wildly unusual conditions, with the collapse of the USSR, to "fit into the system"?

      Is it different with the state?
      1. Temples
        Temples 2 September 2020 08: 08
        +8
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Thank you, of course, but what to sculpt if everything was.


        Everything was already a pro-early predecessor.
        Shushkevich has already reached the Russian language.

        Lukashenka answered you too. Read carefully.
        so that "lords and scoundrels" do not come to power.


        Lukashenko initiated the creation of the Union State.
        In essence, he wanted to rebuild the Empire.

        Lukashenko retained both the KGB and the Police - state structures.
        Lukashenka has kept many of his production facilities.

        Russia cannot boast of this.
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Thank you, of course, but what to sculpt if everything was.

        It seems that we had everything, but what is not left.
        It was the crooks and the scammers who came to power in our country.
        And there are hundreds of thousands of them.
        They sit in offices in all types of administrations.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 2 September 2020 08: 17
          -6
          Quote: Temples
          Russia cannot boast of this.

          Russia can boast that it contains this item
          collective farm chairman
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 2 September 2020 08: 49
            +2
            Thanks to the opposition, Belarus will be pulled apart like that. For example, in Poland they offered to help Tikhanovskaya in exchange for the transfer of "primordially Polish lands."
            1. Temples
              Temples 2 September 2020 10: 03
              -2
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Russia can boast that it contains this item
              collective farm chairman

              If not for this "chairman of the collective farm", then Belarus would have ended before it began.

              And the big question would have remained Russia within its current borders.
            2. Terrible GMO
              Terrible GMO 2 September 2020 10: 54
              +1
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              For example, in Poland they offered to help Tikhanovskaya in exchange for the transfer of "primordially Polish lands."

              And of course, apart from your comment, there is no confirmation?
              1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 2 September 2020 11: 21
                +1
                Polish writer and public figure Wojciech Tsejrowski said that the democratization of Belarus would lead to chaos and did not reflect the true interests of Poland, Telewizja Republika reported.

                The publicist did not rule out that Warsaw could assist Svetlana Tikhanovskaya in gaining recognition from the international community. But for this one "thank you" from her will not be enough. If she promises to return to Poland "primordially Polish lands", then she will be helped with the legitimacy and democratization of the country.
                1. Terrible GMO
                  Terrible GMO 2 September 2020 13: 30
                  -1
                  Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  Polish writer and public figure

                  Oh yeah, well, that changes things radically. And one public figure at the VO forum suggested that the government of the Russian Federation return stability to Belarus and include the "lost territories" in its composition.

                  So who to believe? Where to drive the tanks? West or East?
                  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    Nikolay Ivanov_5 2 September 2020 13: 35
                    +1
                    Read the comment below.
              2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 2 September 2020 12: 53
                +2
                In 2019, the Polish media already published the material "We'll be back!" (Wrocimy!), Reminiscent of the borders of Poland in 1921-1939, when Grodno, Brest, Pinsk, Lvov and Vilnius were part of it. Similar maps appear in Polish periodicals, tabloids and banners regularly, gently reminding neighbors that the restoration of Polish independence and Polish borders has not yet been completed. And all these regions may well repeat the path of the Bialystok region of the BSSR, given in 1944 to Poland and whose population was forbidden to remember the Belarusian identity.

                More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/08/25/brestskoe-i-grodnenskoe-voevodstva-polshi-uzhe-zavtra
            3. TriA
              TriA 2 September 2020 18: 28
              21
              There are no "primordially Polish lands" in Belarus. Poland can forget about Belarus. Otherwise, their ambition may fail them.
          2. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 2 September 2020 08: 54
            15
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Russia can boast that it contains this item
            collective farm chairman

            It is better to keep the collective farm chairman than Bandera Ruin.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 2 September 2020 09: 18
              +5
              No, well, for the "sculpting", thanks, of course. Thank you and for the "work of art" not to be dragged away by thieves, the "sculptor" did not allow. But ... it's time to find a WORTHY successor sculptor! yes lol
              1. Temples
                Temples 2 September 2020 10: 07
                +4
                There is no need to continue.
                You need to unite.
                Otherwise - ass to ass and who will fly further.

                Belarus will not have an independent state.
                It's impossible.

                Either it is part of Russia, or it is part of some other country.

                And Ukraine will not be a state. It's a question of time. And I think not for a long time.
          3. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 2 September 2020 09: 21
            11
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Russia can boast that it contains this item
            collective farm chairman

            Please explain your statement exactly how it contains, preferably with numbers. And then we got such unfounded statements already. By the way, here's to you enlighten.
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 2 September 2020 09: 42
              +4
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Please explain your statement exactly how it contains, preferably with numbers.

              - Russia has always stood for the development of the Union State. For this, the Union Treaty was signed, which to a certain extent was implemented over the years.
              But when, from 2000 to 2010, the level of annual financial support of Belarus or the shortfall of income of the Russian Federation in our economic relations ranged from hundreds of millions of dollars to 2-3 billion, and now it is 5-6 billion per year, legal and there were enough financial resources to ensure the level of economic and industrial integration that we have.
              But at this stage in the development of the Union State, our partners raised questions about domestic Russian gas prices, compensation for the tax maneuver (and, in fact, distribution of the negative excise tax on Belarusian refineries, as stipulated by Russian law for Russian refineries), an increase volumes of subsidies from the Russian budget for Belarusian industrial enterprises on a par with Russian ones, consolidation of the share of Belarusian agricultural products on the Russian market, the possibility of allocating even cheaper reditov (in Russian budget allocated loans at an interest rate of 1%) and so on.

              As for export indicators, our position is very simple - the more favorable economic opportunities our ally finds for itself, the better for us. Another thing is that the increase in export indicators to the EU to $ 10,2 billion, by $ 4,6 billion is the sale of petroleum products made from duty-free Russian oil on the London and Dutch exchanges. If these oil products, together with the supply of Russian coal, are excluded from these statistics, then the share of the Russian Federation will again account for more than 50% of exports, and for the EU - about 20%. By the way, in the volume of exports to the countries of the "distant arc" there are 2,1 billion dollars - the same oil products and 600 million dollars - coal to Ukraine. But for the beauty of the account, you can leave everything as it is. Without any irony, we are glad of any success of our friends.

              - You know, in sport there is such a term - a habitual dislocation. Such a “dislocation” has been going on for many years in the assessments of individual leaders of Russia's real contribution to the development of the Belarusian economy, including by opening their markets for Belarusian goods.
              Someone really does not want to admit completely obvious facts. And the numbers. And they are as follows: out of 5,13 billion dollars of Belarusian agricultural products export, which our friends are so proud of, 4,1 billion falls on the Russian Federation, that is 80%. In milk, of the total exports of Belarus in 2018, this is 85%, butter - 72%, cheese and cottage cheese - 84%.
              © Mikhail Babich
              ICHH, did not refute a single figure from an interview with the Belarusian Foreign Ministry - and began to put pressure on emotions, calling Babich an accountant who does not understand the essence of relations between fraternal peoples. smile
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 2 September 2020 10: 09
                17
                Quote: Alexey RA
                ICHH, did not refute a single figure from an interview with the Belarusian Foreign Ministry - and began to put pressure on emotions, calling Babich an accountant who does not understand the essence of relations between fraternal peoples.

                The key word here is tax maneuver. A large share of the Belarusian budget is made up of revenues from the processing of crude Russian oil. If Belarus is our strategic ally and partner, it is obvious that energy prices for it should be lower than for Germany, for example, or Poland. Here is the first stumbling block. And the second stumbling block is the privatization of Belarusian enterprises in the event of the creation of a union state.
                1. Ryazan87
                  Ryazan87 2 September 2020 10: 31
                  +8
                  Here's the key:
                  If Belarus is our strategic ally and partner,

                  From the actions of Lukashenka over the past 10 years, it follows strictly the opposite, except for the empty chatter about "brotherhood". Even the deployment of a military base was refused.
                  As for the numbers .. Well, here's something fresh:
                  https://ria.ru/20200901/belorussiya-1576580993.html
                  The ministries of finance of the Russian Federation and Belarus are starting a technical study of the conditions for refinancing debt to Russia, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told reporters.
                  "We are negotiating at the level of the finance ministries, and our leaders were also negotiating about this, so now we will work out the terms of this loan and the volumes at the technical level ..."
                  Last week, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that he had discussed the issue of refinancing the Belarusian debt $ 1 billion with Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin. Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov later confirmed that Moscow and Minsk continue contacts on this topic.
                  Those. the guardian of the BSSR mummy keeps his entire economy on Russian loans, purchases (ask why Russian state-owned companies are forced to buy products of the same MAZ, for example) and cheap energy sources and boasts of "multi-vectoralism", sabotages the union state and constantly rolls out claims.
                  "Such friends - for ... and a museum!"
                  It was necessary not to lick this figure, but to consistently cultivate the pro-Russian opposition. So that people come out not white-red, but with white-blue-red flags. Change the regime to the one that is needed by Russian interests and achieve unification. Well, you need to learn at least something, and not throw money at all the local dictators.
                  1. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA 2 September 2020 12: 34
                    +2
                    Quote: Ryazanets87
                    Last week, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that he had discussed the issue of refinancing the Belarusian debt of $ 1 billion with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

                    This is only part of the debt. The total debt of Belarus to the Russian Federation is $ 7,5 billion.
                    1. Ryazan87
                      Ryazan87 2 September 2020 13: 35
                      +1
                      Well, you understand that this is only current debt. If we add to it all the write-offs and restructuring that have already been carried out over the past 20 years, if we add lost profits from non-market energy tariffs, a special customs regime, compulsory state purchases of Belarusian products (the same MAZ and BelAZ), investments in the Belarusian economy (from 2001 to 2018 Russian companies invested $ 11,9 billion in this country) - the numbers will become completely indecent. The price of this collective farm "miracle" with the cockroach king at its head is immediately clear.
                      1. Alexey RA
                        Alexey RA 2 September 2020 14: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: Ryazanets87
                        Well, you understand that this is only current debt.

                        I understand perfectly.
                        Quote: Ryazanets87
                        If we add to it all the write-offs and restructuring that have already taken place over the past 20 years, if we add lost profits from non-market tariffs for energy carriers, a special customs regime, compulsory state purchases of Belarusian products (the same MAZ and BelAZ), investments in the Belarusian economy (from 2001 to 2018 Russian companies invested $ 11,9 billion in this country) - the numbers will become completely indecent.

                        I met data that the amount of financial support to the Republic of Belarus from the Russian Federation during the rule of the AHL is estimated at 90-100 billion in total.
                2. boss
                  boss 2 September 2020 21: 04
                  +1
                  And you also need to calculate how many Belarusian lobsters and oysters are imported, pseudo-Belarusian vegetables and fruits.
                  To estimate how much fuel from our oil has been sold for the needs of the Ukrainian army, which is fueled by the equipment firing at Donbas.
                  The Crimea does not recognize it as a bratski.
                  Normally there is also a stigma in the cannon.
                  And Babich is handsome!
            2. dragy52rus
              dragy52rus 2 September 2020 11: 37
              +3
              the video that you attached clearly shows that the RF contains the chairman. + a little bit of manipulation.
        2. viralig
          viralig 2 September 2020 09: 03
          +4
          And yes to power under him came the urks and pimples.

          Under Shushkevich, the bus went to the village 2 times a day, and now in those villages that remained, once on weekdays and a couple of times on weekends. The entire infrastructure was completely ruined, and as a result, the villages were ordered to live long.
          Medicine is more or less only in large cities. But the number from the city is declining every year. I'm leaving young and promising.
          Education. An average out of the ordinary bad level of knowledge falls dramatically. Universities or children close to it for free for the rest of the competition. Higher education received in Belarus is not quoted, as it does not correspond to the current level.
          As they say, nothing can be said about science. She died dear.
          He slowly destroyed the industry. It remains to finish off the main giants. Where is the Technopribor plant? Like a bunch of other businesses. Where are the televisions Horizon and Vityaz? Why did Stroymashina auction off the administrative building?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 2 September 2020 09: 19
            -5
            Quote: viralig
            The entire infrastructure was completely ruined, and as a result, the villages were ordered to live long

            Something you are not carrying. Lukashenko not only preserved the villages in the Republic of Belarus, he also made them better than under the Union. Compare with Russia for example.
            1. viralig
              viralig 2 September 2020 09: 32
              +3
              Dear Ingvar, come to Belarus, we will take a map of 1997 with you and drive through the trees and you will see that there are 80 percent of them left and in place of the rest a plowed field. And even in these 20 there are no young people, and often only pensioners, or generally just dachas. An example is the village of Ozerishche, Mogilev region, Osipovichi district. The indigenous population is 2 pensioners, the length of the village is about a meter, the rest of the houses are summer cottages. And there are a lot of such villages. The only place in the village where you can find young people is in the central farmsteads of farms, but people are fleeing from there too. For from leisure only moonshine, medicine in the regional center.
            2. Terrible GMO
              Terrible GMO 2 September 2020 10: 56
              +3
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Lukashenko not only preserved the villages in the Republic of Belarus, he also made them better than under the Union. Compare with Russia for example.

              Why should I compare with Russia? I can compare with Belarus ten years ago. From Russia, you obviously see the situation much better than from here good
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          3. alexmach
            alexmach 2 September 2020 09: 35
            +3
            Under Shushkevich, the bus went to the village 2 times a day, and now in those villages that remained, once on weekdays and a couple of times on weekends. The entire infrastructure was completely ruined, and as a result, the villages were ordered to live long.
            Medicine is more or less only in large cities. But the number from the city is declining every year. I'm leaving young and promising.
            Education. Out of the ordinary bad, the level of knowledge drops dramatically

            So this is not only in Belarus. This is a general situation. It is so everywhere in the post-Soviet space. We are still living in a phase of regression.
            UNIVERSITIES or close children for free for the rest of the competition

            Competition in universities? Oh no no no. How can that be?
            Higher education received in Belarus is not quoted, as it does not correspond to the current level.

            Who has it not quoted? The fools who did not pass the competition in the universities? I had a girl from Belarus at work. Especially by eye, her level of training is very decent. The diploma was also quite suitable for immigration purposes.
            He slowly destroyed the industry

            This is an outright lie. Just look at the structure of employment of the population and compare, well, with neighboring Ukraine.
            Stroymashina auctioned off the administrative building?

            Forgive me, but in my hometown, all the former plant territories within the city were already stuck 10 years ago. And the sale of office buildings has ended for 20 years already. Your regressive process is at least 20-25 years behind. And this is still an achievement, even though it is about regression. In Russia, for example, only 10-15 years.
            1. viralig
              viralig 2 September 2020 10: 09
              +7
              Dear Alexmach. I don’t argue that a competition in a university is needed, but again the number is free of charge every year and is often given to the children of officials for "beautiful eyes" (by no means the most gifted because who will study better abroad) ... For poorer families there are leftovers and it does not matter that a young man is promising as a specialist, and his parents simply will not pay for his education.
              As for the girl at your work, maybe she has already returned to Belarus? No, alas, those who are headlong and not tied to certain statuses leave abroad. And yes, apart from the former USSR countries, their diplomas are Filkin's diplomas. There are, of course, a couple of exceptions, but in any case, confirmation of knowledge will be asked (and this is normal) for the rest of them to unlearn the place as well.
              As for the industry, in fact, only the refinery was modernized. The machines have not been updated since Soviet times, but they seem to have their own resource. And this affects the cost, etc. As a result, the products are not competitive and work at the warehouse, as a result, enterprises are often bankrupt. You need to look for qualified personnel during the day with fire. And it is better for them to go to work for the family.
              If you do not consider this to be the destruction of industry, then we live in parallel worlds. And if you think that it is only the head of the enterprise's fault, you are mistaken. Since the directors of large enterprises will agree with him personally. And he, with his own hand, makes them take the lead after unprofitable collective farms ... That is, to bury money in the place of modernization.

              Regarding regression, this already resembles not regression, but torture with a fatal outcome. Only the torment continues. For often it will be easier not to modernize but to build a new one.
          4. iouris
            iouris 2 September 2020 11: 41
            +2
            Quote: viralig
            Under Shushkevich, the bus went to the village 2 times a day,

            It was also a Soviet bus. The USSR did not disappear immediately: inertia. And Batka's conquests (if we give slack) will not disappear the next day, but those ghouls who are now shaking the state will not leave anything. I do not mean "ordinary people" who are "for all the good", but the agents who are now showing their hearts to you. If you let them get to power, it will be worse than in Odessa.
            1. viralig
              viralig 2 September 2020 12: 24
              +3
              So you rightly said - inertia. So the whole merit of the AHL is "Inertia".
              In fact, he practically did not create anything, and is slowly living out the Soviet past, taking loans for crutches in the economy. And then what? Where to get money from? Where to get jobs? The statistics are classified because the further the higher the age of the average Belarusian. Young people try to leave either to the capital or even from the blue-eyed. (Oh, what bastards. They want both a decent salary and proper social benefits. And they do not want to pay for an economic "miracle" with "voluntary" labor. Which is swollen and hinders the economy from going.) He does not state the experience of involving prisoners in the harvest campaign. Apparently once it was enough that this year they no longer attract. I emphasize once again that he will start to do everything in dust.
              Regarding svyadomy. So he himself with his policy led to this situation. Do you think those who are demonstrating support the movement to the west? No and no again. The entire bulk is against a specific person. And yes, everything will be lost not without him, but with him. Without it, it is possible and there is a chance. His policy is window dressing and creating conditions for him and a handful of people close to him. While he is in power, he will not give it to anyone. As soon as the hype dies down, it will return to its multi-vector nature. So let's see what you say then.
              1. iouris
                iouris 2 September 2020 13: 48
                -2
                Quote: viralig
                And then what? Where to get money from?

                Everything is very simple. Poland and the "Baltic Tigers" are deprived of funding from the EU (from Germany). The infrastructure created for the needs of NATO will have to be maintained by ourselves. Without the absorption of Ukraine and Belarus (purely to colonize), they are practically dead. RF and Belarus are Russia.
              2. alexmach
                alexmach 2 September 2020 18: 03
                +2
                So you rightly said - inertia. So the whole merit of the AHL is "Inertia".
                In fact, he practically did not create anything, but is slowly living out the Soviet past, taking loans for crutches in the economy

                Yes, and this is his achievement. He preserved the USSR there as much as possible and slowed down its disintegration.
                And then what? Where to get money from? Where to get jobs?

                Do you know someone who has an answer to this question? Or God forbid a rosary plan? Maybe he is in Russia?
                Young people try to leave or to the capital

                This is a global trend actually
                or even blue-eyed

                And this is at least a regional trend. They leave from Ukraine and from Russia, and from the Baltic states and from Poland. - from everywhere .. From certain locations faster than others, of course.
                And yes, everything will be lost not without him, but with him.

                And there is at least some intelligible forecast on the topic and what will happen if he is toppled? Who will take power and where exactly will he lead Belarus? You are now repeating one to one the judgments of the Ukrainian Svidomo-Yanukovych is no president (confirmed in practice), now we will get rid of and live, it couldn't be worse anyway. Dumped and healed.
        3. alexmach
          alexmach 2 September 2020 09: 19
          +3
          Everything was already a pro-early predecessor.

          It is not true. There was a Soviet state about it, yes, but very, very much has remained of it, something is still alive, not like in the 90s.
          In essence, he wanted to rebuild the Empire.

          What has ceased to desire so sharply? He wanted a warmer place for himself, and nothing more.
          Lukashenko retained both the KGB and the Police - state structures.
          Lukashenka has kept many of his production facilities.

          Russia cannot boast of this.

          I mean, can't? Doesn't Russia have police or FSB? The production base in Russia also remained whatever it is.
        4. Kart
          Kart 2 September 2020 09: 34
          -4
          Quote: Temples
          Lukashenka has kept many of his production facilities.

          Russia cannot boast of this.

          Maybe not only this.
          https://sdelanounas.ru/
          Comrade Stalin built factories at about the same pace.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 September 2020 10: 12
            +3
            Quote: Carte
            Comrade Stalin built factories at about the same pace.

            fool
            1. Kart
              Kart 2 September 2020 11: 04
              -3
              What, the template is breaking?
              It's not hard to count.
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 September 2020 14: 39
                +4
                Quote: Carte
                It's not hard to count.

                Not difficult. And you obviously did not succeed even after direct indication that you are delirious
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 2 September 2020 18: 05
            +2
            Comrade Stalin built factories at about the same pace.

            How else is that? Has someone quietly built 10000 factories in Russia?
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 3 September 2020 07: 32
              0
              Quote: alexmach
              In Russia, has someone quietly built 10000 factories?

              Yes, there is statistics here that in 2011-14 we built more than 1000 production facilities, it was considered "doneunas". True, 2 facts are somehow missed
              1) The statistics include not only newly built factories, but even individual workshops and production lines.
              2) In the USSR, only large industrial facilities, plants and factories in 1938-41. 543 were built, including, for example, 40 power plants
              And in total, in the pre-war years, yes, about 9 large industrial facilities were built
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 3 September 2020 13: 12
                0
                And in total, in the pre-war years, yes, about 9 large industrial facilities were built

                9000? well .. well, it means a little wrong.
                But in general, the fact that something is being built in general, even if it is in separate lines and workshops, is very positive. The rates of industrial construction that were in the USSR in the pre-war years can not be repeated in modern Russia in principle for a variety of objective reasons. And to compare with the Stalinist five-year plans is stupid.
        5. Nemo
          Nemo 2 September 2020 09: 58
          +1
          He did not want to recreate the empire, but not to lose the market for products and production ties. Without all this, the enterprises of the Republic of Bashkortostan would not have recovered. So do not confuse pragmatism and lofty ideas.
        6. Antagonist
          Antagonist 2 September 2020 16: 52
          12
          Quote: Temples
          Shushkevich has already reached the Russian language.

          How would someone not get to his tongue. And what, anything can be. Another "great Sumer" Yoli-Pala.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 September 2020 08: 10
        0
        Well, it should be admitted that "blinded" the most correctly. But the liberal rubbish was not swept out of the hut, it was swept under the rug. He diligently raised the nationalists, hoping that they would help cope with the pro-Westerners, and they united against him ... request
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 2 September 2020 08: 13
          +5
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Well, it should be admitted that "blinded" the most correctly. But the liberal rubbish was not swept out of the hut, it was swept under the rug. He diligently raised the nationalists, hoping that they would help cope with the pro-Westerners, and they united against him ... request


          Eh hehe recourse ... Where did you see the ideal in the post-Soviet space request ?
      3. cost
        cost 2 September 2020 08: 41
        +4
        Lukashenka said that he “sculpted” Belarus on the ruins of the empire

        Well, how can you not remember A. Apin - I sculpted him from what was (c) wink
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 2 September 2020 08: 45
          +7
          Quote: Rich
          Well, how can you not remember A. Apin - I sculpted him from what was (c)

          Moreover, I have already written that not only Lukashenka "molded" his country practically from scratch.
          But the creations of each of the masters came out different.

          Someone has Russia, and someone has Ukraine ...
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 2 September 2020 09: 38
            +3
            But the creations of each of the masters came out different

            So the initial data were different for each.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 2 September 2020 09: 54
              +5
              Quote: alexmach
              So the initial data were different for each.

              Different yes
              Comparing the possibilities of Ukraine (the Ukrainian SSR, at the time of secession) and Belarus (BSSR), at least as neighbors and predominantly Slavic republics, which has now completely lost its subjectivity "independent" - had much greater prerequisites and chances for flourishing ...
      4. halpat
        halpat 2 September 2020 11: 46
        -1
        Well, just Alena Apina, and not the first person of the state wassat
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 2 September 2020 08: 06
      -4
      What was it all? Belaruskaliy, a couple of refineries, MAZ, BELAZ, MZKT and agricultural? Over time, the IT sphere has developed, nuclear power plants have been built. And since there are no sales markets, how can the economy develop?
      1. halpat
        halpat 2 September 2020 16: 26
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        What was it all? Belaruskaliy, a couple of refineries, MAZ, BELAZ, MZKT and agricultural? Over time, the IT sphere has developed, nuclear power plants have been built. And since there are no sales markets, how can the economy develop?

        The nuclear power plant was built entirely at the expense of Russia, from the money of the project and technology, to the last screw.
        VSK are talking about the mighty Belarusian IT sphere. Enlighten what is so powerful there?
        We know tanks - a cool game. We also know that Belarusian IT specialists have now become the 5th column.
        And where is something more substantial? Belarusian "Windows", for example? Or at least the storage facilities of the "bigdata" ... which the Chinese promised to invest, but they never got it.
    3. RoTTor
      RoTTor 2 September 2020 08: 10
      +5
      everything was in Ukraine, well ... ???
      The proiebalts lived better than anyone else under the USSR, now they have returned to their native state of the squalid backyard of the European community, beggars and gatherers.

      So BATSKA is a HEAD and an EAGLE: he saved all enterprises, mineral resources, land, did not allow oligarchophrenics and organized crime groups to appear, social guarantees, etc.

      And speaks Russian!
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 September 2020 08: 18
        +5
        Who can argue that all the squabbers messed up and destroyed their economies, but this will not justify the dad if the BR follows their path 30 years later. request But he blinded the conditions for this. angry
      2. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 2 September 2020 08: 22
        +3
        Everything was in Ukraine as long as it was part of the USSR and the local elites had the goal of developing the republic, set from Moscow, because it was one country and it was interested in its development. Now Ukraine is governed from Washington, for which the main goal is to oppose Moscow, and also destroy the industry of Ukraine, turning it into a sales market for their goods, following the example of Romania, Bulgaria and other sales markets conquered by the West. Hence the command of Washington to deindustrialize the Ukrainian elite ruling the country. It's just that everyone has their own interests.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 2 September 2020 10: 29
        -2
        did not allow oligarchophrenics and organized crime groups to appear

        Just gave it, now they are jumping across the squares with Nazi rags, I would have crushed it in the bud and there would be no racing.
      4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 September 2020 10: 48
        +3
        Quote: RoTTor
        The proiebalts lived better than anyone else under the USSR, now they have returned to their native state of the squalid backyard of the European community, beggars and gatherers.

        Agas. Only now the average salary in Lithuania today is 850 euros with a minimum rate of 550 euros, and in the Russian Federation - the average is about 516 euros
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 2 September 2020 12: 33
          0
          what are the costs? 80% of the Baltic population work in Europe
    4. Deniska999
      Deniska999 2 September 2020 08: 43
      +5
      The main reason for all the upheavals that began in the post-Soviet space 15 years ago is the complete exhaustion of the main social contract of the early nineties.

      And this agreement was "we do not ask, you do not ask, and no one says anything."
      We do not ask you, bosses, where did the humble Soviet deputy ministers, lieutenant colonels, sports coaches, Komsomol workers and the sons of district committee secretaries suddenly come from "factories, steamers", as well as oil rigs, ore-dressing plants, steel-rolling mills, and so on.
      And you do not ask us, people, how we live and how we earn. You took "public property" for yourself, we got apartments and shopping centers without queues, and the opportunity to live by our own mind. Some have succeeded, some have not, but that's another story.
      It was quite a deal thirty years ago - but a generation has changed, and people want to live like people. Constant stories “what do you want like ...? and so on ”is no longer enough. It is clear that you, the citizens of the bosses, want to sit here forever, because otherwise you cannot save your billions - well, you can talk about this too, but the terms of the deal must be discussed anew.

      It's just that each country gets it at different times, for the Russian Federation this conversation was postponed thanks to oil, but it will still have to be conducted.

      And all the same, bosses will have to share with people. Will not go anywhere.
      1. Kart
        Kart 2 September 2020 09: 38
        -1
        Quote: Deniska999
        And all the same, bosses will have to share with people. Will not go anywhere.

        Well, if you're lucky, you will take away from these bosses for yourself.
        And you will be the new bosses.
        Of course, of course, much better than these old ones. After all, you are for justice and for all good.
        And if even one of the people whines about injustice, declare him an accomplice of the old criminal regime, and of the whole business.
        This is the whole essence of the struggle for justice for the people.
    5. Svetlana
      Svetlana 2 September 2020 08: 48
      +6
      The collapse of the Union broke management and destroyed ties. A single whole turned into small fragments. And it was these fragments that Lukashenka got from which he sculpted the economy. The same fragments went to Putin, and the main difference between them is only that Putin allowed the private owner to develop. Lukashenka turned out to be more Soviet and did not give the private owner much rights.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 2 September 2020 09: 02
        +1
        Quote: Svetlana
        turned out to be more Soviet and did not give a private owner much rights.

        I have a lot of acquaintances - private traders from Belarus. They don't tell anything particularly terrible. Something like ours. The same rights.
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 2 September 2020 09: 09
          +4
          I also have many acquaintances there. But that's not the point. Lukashenka's private traders are "Ice Cream Sellers", Putin's private traders are "Manufacturers." And that's exactly what I meant. All large production facilities in Bellorussia, in contrast to Russia, belong to the state.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 2 September 2020 09: 17
            0
            Quote: Svetlana
            All large production facilities in Bellorussia, unlike Russia, belong to the state.

            Well, hardware makers aren't exactly ice cream sellers. But you are right, they are small. True, state corporations in Russia can hardly be called private. It is not at all clear what it is wassat
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 2 September 2020 11: 14
              +3
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              True, state corporations in Russia can hardly be called private

              It's hard to call it state-owned, did you mean? wink
              1. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 2 September 2020 12: 34
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                It's hard to call it state-owned, did you mean?

                Rather, the state, all the same.
    6. Civil
      Civil 2 September 2020 09: 15
      -1
      Lukashenka won't give up power just like that, he will have to be kept in this form.
      1. Kart
        Kart 2 September 2020 09: 42
        0
        Who should he give it to now?
        And most importantly, for what purpose?
        Is it the very same opposition?
        By the way, about her:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVhj_2zbiQ


        Watch from 11.09 (Everything else is off topic)
        1. Plastmaster
          Plastmaster 2 September 2020 23: 21
          0
          Quote: Carte
          about her:

          I wonder who will say what now? Cool setup, democracy.
    7. Basil50
      Basil50 2 September 2020 09: 35
      +3
      They blinded Belarus, and now they demand to recognize * the centuries-old culture * of Belarusians.
      RB exists only AT THE EXPENSE OF RUSSIA. On TV they mentioned that there, in the Republic of Belarus, they live better than in RUSSIA, without mentioning that money is torn from the citizens of RUSSIA and Belarusians are fed.
      Resentment in RUSSIA only for the fact that Belarusians take it for granted that they are selling their * loyalty *. It turns out that Belarusians can be * fraternal * and just decent ONLY FOR MONEY.
    8. Vend
      Vend 2 September 2020 10: 16
      -3
      called "fools who play with fire."
      Rough, but true.
    9. Baloo
      Baloo 2 September 2020 16: 36
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Lukashenka said that he “sculpted” Belarus on the ruins of the empire
      Thank you, of course, but what to sculpt if everything was. Army, government, oh yes, the LAW. Oh well.


      During his speech, Lukashenka said that “some in Russia say that he (Lukashenka) is holding onto power with blue fingers”.
      Lukashenko:
      It's not about power, I just don't want to cut the country to pieces
      [Quote] [/ quote]
      And I believe Lukashenka, because he is. Who are these three aunts, who proclaimed themselves the "leaders" of the position, what do they live on, the source of income? Belarusians, remember the tales of Hoffmann? There are many similar characters. And the history of the February Revolution of 1917. in Russia, who were the leaders? For whom did General Alekseev work, who forced the tsar to relinquish power? And Kerensky? And where was Trotsky when the February revolution happened, why did he live luxuriously in American hotels and whose grandmother he returned to Russia? And on whose grandmother Sverdlov's brother opened a bank in America in 1916, which was covered with a copper basin immediately after Sverdlov's death? Ask what these three aunts have been doing since 2013, what was the source of their income.
      It didn't work with Russia:
      I hope Beloru will not falter either.
      1. Plastmaster
        Plastmaster 2 September 2020 23: 29
        +1
        Quote: Balu
        And the history of the February Revolution of 1917. in Russia, who were the leaders? For whom did General Alekseev work, who forced the tsar to relinquish power? And Kerensky? And where was Trotsky when the February revolution happened, why did he live luxuriously in American hotels and whose grandmother he returned to Russia? And on whose grandmother Sverdlov's brother opened a bank in America in 1916, which was covered with a copper basin immediately after Sverdlov's death? Ask what these three aunts have been doing since 2013, what was the source of their income.
        It didn't work with Russia:

        I would also add our fighter for human rights, academician Sakharov, according to whose precepts the USSR was destroyed and according to the same precepts we now live.
  2. Ka-52
    Ka-52 2 September 2020 07: 59
    -1
    he "sculpted Belarus on the ruins of the empire"

    just like in a fairy tale: "she ripped along the bottom of the barrel, swept the barn and made a bun by grandma" laughing and this bun from the grandmother (from Old Man) strives to dump everything to the fox. Looks like I have not read fairy tales and does not know how that voyage ended for a confectionery tongue
  3. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 2 September 2020 08: 00
    +4
    Alexander Lukashenko made a statement regarding his tenure in the main post of Belarus. According to the head of state, he is in the presidency not in order to hold on to power for his own sake, but for the sake of not coming to power by "lords and scoundrels".

    Sounds like he's getting ready to step down in the next two years. Hinting at a compromise new president?
  4. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 2 September 2020 08: 03
    +2
    Quote: ... again called "fools who play with fire."
    This is how Lukashenka told the pure truth, although with a delay he himself realized the multi-vector perspective of his policy for Belarus.
    He tore his pants himself trying to sit on two chairs, sew it yourself!
  5. Campanella
    Campanella 2 September 2020 08: 05
    -1
    Directly said. I believe him.
    And to give concrete promises is utter nonsense. Elkin promised to lie down on the rails if the people began to live worse ... And put the people on them.
    Putin also promises and maneuvers all his life ... as he can. And Luka is an honest man, but flaws ... and who doesn't?
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 2 September 2020 08: 19
      +4
      Directly said. I believe him ... Luka is an honest man ...

      faith in the promises of any politician is in the same row as the question of a girl taking off her panties: "Are you sure to marry me?" laughing
  6. Romanenko
    Romanenko 2 September 2020 08: 12
    -2
    And he blinded well. We didn’t work that way, because of this, it seems, and the whole booch.
  7. tatra
    tatra 2 September 2020 08: 12
    +4
    On the example of Ukraine, where Yanukovych agreed to hold early elections, and the Maydanuts staged a coup d'etat anyway, one cannot believe the Maydanuts in Belarus. Even if Lukashenka holds early elections, they will not like the result again. Their "democracy" is only when they win the elections.
    1. vasek5533
      vasek5533 2 September 2020 10: 10
      +4
      He will not cheat, because the real result of these is known. If even now about a hundred polling stations counted their votes evenly, everybody will honestly count in the repeated elections ... therefore there will be no more elections.
      1. Plastmaster
        Plastmaster 2 September 2020 23: 37
        0
        So for our last constitution there was no more, for certain interests. And when you ask specifically whether you went to vote or not, the answer is no. For the sake of interest I asked my acquaintances. So I believe in our last voting results. I do not exclude that in Belarus as well.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 2 September 2020 23: 44
          +1
          Quote: Plastmaster
          So for our last constitution there was no more, for certain interests. And when you ask specifically whether you went to vote or not, the answer is no.

          And what was there to vote specifically for, can you explain?
          1. Plastmaster
            Plastmaster 2 September 2020 23: 49
            0
            Selected items. About a good life, which should be present anyway. I wrote not about good things, but about the fact that everyone is ready to criticize something, but at the same time do nothing.
  8. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 2 September 2020 08: 13
    +3
    In general, daddy is good, for 25 years he has been singing to Russia songs about brotherly love and the union state, and under this hit he pulls resources (natural and financial) from our country, practically giving nothing in return. Moreover, if Lukashenka does not like something, or simply for the sake of momentary political gain, he may also show his teeth.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 2 September 2020 08: 59
      +2
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Moreover, if Lukashenka does not like something, or simply for the sake of momentary political gain, he may also show his teeth.

      He does not show his teeth very much, so he will bark from around the corner, but substitute his ass to the west, he did it well. And so, by and large, a petty blackmailer.
  9. Woodman
    Woodman 2 September 2020 08: 20
    +1
    During his speech, Lukashenka said that “some in Russia say that he (Lukashenka) is holding onto power with blue fingers”.
    How long can you "nod" at Russia? Not tired?
  10. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 2 September 2020 08: 25
    -5
    Meanwhile, representatives of the Belarusian opposition are demanding that Lukashenka give a specific date for the constitutional reform.

    They have no right to demand something. Opposition without polit. course and ideas of state development is a common bandit formation, "lessons" are an excellent definition for them.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 2 September 2020 08: 35
      +1
      Many "urks", during the Second World War, asked to go to the front and defended their homeland to the last drop of blood.
      So one should not insult even criminals with such a comparison.
      There is a corresponding term for such subjects.
      Extremists.
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 2 September 2020 08: 44
        -1
        Quote: Livonetc
        Many "urks", during the Second World War, asked to go to the front and defended their homeland to the last drop of blood.
        So one should not insult even criminals with such a comparison.
        There is a corresponding term for such subjects.
        Extremists.

        Have you seen this in the movies or have you yourself witnessed it? Personally, I use modern realities, I have enough information on reports from Donbass. What did the criminals of the national battalions get up to when weapons fell into their hands .. And how they were made heroes of Ukraine after the robberies of the peaceful people, the shots of the villages with tanks. So, you can remember the Second World War, and I will live in our reality, excuse me.
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 2 September 2020 08: 56
          0
          These types do not need to have a criminal status.
          I haven't been to Donbass.
          Passed in the nineties in full.
          This is a breed of people who are naturally non-humans from birth.
          At 89 I returned from the army to another country.
          Many of my classmates and courtyard friends became reciters and bandos.
          Moscow and Moscow region cemeteries are filled with my generation.
          They brutally killed each other.
          Spared no one.
          They were then complete outrageous.
          In the mid-nineties, I had a lot of overlap with the "classic" underworld.
          And these were people quite sane and negotiable.
          So I studied the science of people and animals not through films and textbooks, but in real life.
          Good luck to you!
          hi
          1. Senka naughty
            Senka naughty 2 September 2020 09: 09
            0
            People are different and treat everything in different ways, you can't argue with that. But elements accustomed to breaking the law look at life and people from a special angle. They can be compared to oligarchy in a certain sense. Any person living according to social and constitutional laws for them is a lower caste (loch). And the most important thing is lack of morality and honor. Such people are not taken into the army after convictions. This is how I see it. Have a nice one you too! hi
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 2 September 2020 09: 09
            0
            Quote: Livonetc
            I haven't been to Donbass.

            Quote: Livonetc
            In the mid-nineties, I had a lot of overlap with the "classic" underworld.
            And these were people quite sane and negotiable.


            Were not, intersected...

            Here is a "portrait" of a classic urkagan, on which even before the war there were no articles measured, the former deputy commander of the punitive battalion "Shakhtersk", and he does not dare to call his "fellow countryman" ...



            Article, photo and video: https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/5078900/post356650483
            1. Livonetc
              Livonetc 2 September 2020 09: 41
              -1
              I've seen such people too.
              I did not communicate with such people.
              I also saw representatives of the Chinese triads.
              He was familiar with many thieves "in law".
              They showed me, among other things, photos from the zones, how they provide the inmates with life in the zone.
              Real "thieves in the laws" live according to concepts that are largely correlated with normal human ones.
              They even managed to negotiate compensation for accidentally injured people.
              Again, talking about people and animals.
              The fact that you are not referring to the classic "urkagans" and the category of living according to the so-called "thieves' laws".
              Apparently, the "legalists" are a departing "nature".
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 2 September 2020 09: 57
                +1
                Quote: Livonetc
                Real "thieves in the laws" live according to concepts that are largely correlated with normal human ones.

                The article for the propaganda of "AUE" is crying for you ...
                1. Livonetc
                  Livonetc 2 September 2020 09: 58
                  -1
                  Decrypt.
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 2 September 2020 10: 09
                    +2
                    Quote: Livonetc
                    Decrypt.

                    I am not Russian and I know that what .

                    "Google-Yandex." yes , learn something new for yourself, and why it is prohibited in the Russian Federation.
                    1. Livonetc
                      Livonetc 2 September 2020 10: 22
                      +1
                      I have nothing to do with this organization.
                      And life should be viewed objectively, in all its manifestations.
  11. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 September 2020 08: 30
    -3
    It's not about the power, I just don't want to cut the country to pieces.
    And they are already trying not to cut the country, but to tear it apart like animals, into pieces. Look at the predatory faces of the Belarusian neighbors from Lithuania and Poland.
  12. Shuttle
    Shuttle 2 September 2020 08: 37
    -2
    The last romantic. Collective farmer? Yes. Grabber? Maybe. Usurper? It is not excluded. But he knows for sure that in Belarus there cannot be, there must not be a comprador bourgeoisie. He builds and preserves the national bourgeoisie with all his might and leads it.
    1. Shuttle
      Shuttle 3 September 2020 09: 50
      0
      In addition to myself.
  13. Olgovich
    Olgovich 2 September 2020 08: 45
    +4
    Those who take to the streets to protest, Lukashenka once again did not even try to hear and calm down with relatively diplomatic statements, but again called "Fools who play with fire"... For obvious reasons, such an epithet, to put it mildly, did not add Lukashenka's credibility on the part of those protesting against his policies.

    Question to the author: do the protestors speak about him ANYWHERE? Better.

    And he is entitled to YOUR grade. With which millions of people in Moldova and Ruin agree, who have already passed the "victories" of these enthusiastic ladies.

    I propose to all protestors to communicate with their FUTURE: the youth of Moldova, who achieved a victory for 11 years over the annoying "everyone" "dictator-president, over" rigged elections, who put their "honest" idols on display, although they are aging, are still available on social networks.

    So ask them: WHAT did they want and WHAT .... happened in real life, why do they live (for the most part) not in Moldova, why corruption, theft, lawlessness, devastation, poverty have grown at times as a result of their such bright, beautiful movement
    1. Liam
      Liam 2 September 2020 09: 01
      -2
      ))))
      According to the National Bureau of Statistics of the Republic of Moldova in 2009 year, the average salary in the national economy amounted to 2747,6 lei ($ 218,5.)


      Average salary in Moldova 7634 MDL / month (460.796 USD/ month) in the first quarter 2020 g.


      How much is the average salary in Belarus right now? 500 or less?
      1. tatra
        tatra 2 September 2020 09: 14
        -7
        According to the National Statistical Committee of the Republic of Belarus (Belstat), the average accrued wages in the country, as of July 2020, amounted to 1287,5 rubles, at the current exchange rate, the average salary for May was 533,6 US dollars.
        1. Liam
          Liam 2 September 2020 09: 18
          +2
          Awesome achievements for 26 years of "stability" Salary at the level of Moldova, 3 devaluations. And on the threshold of the 4th with a default on the state debt.
          In 2008, when the salary in Moldova was 200 dollars, in Belarus it was 400.
          1. tatra
            tatra 2 September 2020 09: 36
            -2
            If without the stupid verbiage, the average salary in Belarus is higher than in Moldova. AND THE OFFICIAL SALARY IN THE REPUBLIC OF MOLDOVA IN 2020 IS:

            The average salary is 7 Moldovan lei per month (813,1 dollars).
            1. Liam
              Liam 2 September 2020 09: 44
              -4
              Quote: tatra
              If, without the stupid verbiage

              Even these scanty results Lukashenka "achieved" only thanks to the infusion of tens of billions of dollars from Russia, semi-free receipt of gas and oil and subsequent resale to the West with margin and games with sanctioned shrimps. The state debt of Belarus-in 2019 -35% of GDP, Moldova-28 % Of GDP. And in Moldova there has not been a single devaluation since the introduction of the leu in 1994. Over the past years, 15 euros has cost 18/20 lei and is still worth with minimal fluctuations
              1. tatra
                tatra 2 September 2020 09: 57
                -2
                Firstly, there is no need to brag about the free raw material income that the Russian enemy of the communists got hold of. Secondly, the enemies of the communists see nothing wrong with the fact that your entire beloved West is mired in external and internal debts, which, on average, amount to about 100% of the ERP.
                And since the beginning of the year, the gross external debt of the Republic of Moldova has increased by 0,5% and as of March 31, 2020 amounted to $ 7,58 billion, which is 63,1% of GDP (+ 0,1% compared to March 31, 2019).
                1. Liam
                  Liam 2 September 2020 10: 02
                  -3
                  Quote: tatra
                  gross external debt of the Republic of Moldova

                  You are economically illiterate and confuse gross external debt with national debt.

                  Gross external debt of Belarus in 2019 increased by 3,7%
                  The gross external debt of Belarus as of January 1, 2020 amounted to $ 40,75 billion (64,5% of GDP
            2. Liam
              Liam 2 September 2020 09: 51
              -4
              Quote: tatra
              Average salary - 7 813,1 Moldovan lei per month (427 dollars).

              You are bad at math.
              Central Bank of the Russian Federation on 02.09.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX

              1 USD 16.6000 MDL


              7.813: 16.6 = 470.66.

              as of July 2020 amounted to 1287,5 rubles

              Central Bank of the Russian Federation on 02.09.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX

              1 USD 2.6355 BYN

              1287: 2.63 =489.35
              1. tatra
                tatra 2 September 2020 10: 01
                -2
                What does my math have to do with it? I took the official statistics of Moldova.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 2 September 2020 10: 10
                  -3
                  And that you are desperately trying to deny the obvious. That after 26 Lukashenka’s "order" and hundreds of billions of subsidies from the Russian Federation, Belarus is an economic bankrupt that is not able to pay off debts and is asking Russia right now for debt restructuring, and this is a measure applied to borrowers who are in a state of Default, i.e. unable to service their debt.
                  And economic indicators and salaries - at the level of Moldova, which no one gave hundreds of billions, oil and gas buys at world prices, but has not slipped to default
            3. Terrible GMO
              Terrible GMO 2 September 2020 11: 01
              +1
              Quote: tatra
              If without the stupid verbiage, the average salary in Belarus is more than in Moldova

              No longer wassat And it's not evening yet. Throughout July, that same "average" thousand rubles was held by the titanic efforts of the National Bank, which was holding back the dollar rate at least. And now everything
          2. vasek5533
            vasek5533 2 September 2020 10: 20
            +3
            Moreover, the average, and according to the same committee more than 1000 rubles. ($ 400) is received by less than 50% of the population ... that's been guided for 26 years.
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 2 September 2020 17: 57
        +1
        Quote: Liam
        According to the data of the National Bureau of Statistics of the Republic of Moldova, in 2009 the average salary in the national economy amounted to 2747,6 lei (218,5 dollars).


        Average salary in Moldova 7634 MDL / month (460.796 USD / month) in the first quarter of 2020

        ) In the first quarter of 2009, the average retail price of gasoline in Moldova (including VAT) was 8,57 lei sa 1 l

        Today 16lei / l.

        Got it, no?
        1. Liam
          Liam 2 September 2020 18: 14
          -3
          Quote: Olgovich
          In the first quarter of 2009, the average retail price of gasoline in Moldova (including VAT) amounted to 8,57 lei per 1 liter

          Today 16lei / l.

          And what does this have to do with the comparative growth of salaries in the Republic of Moldova and Belarus?
          PySy.In the oil-bearing RF in 2009 gasoline cost 19, and now how much? 45?
          Ymperets)
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 2 September 2020 18: 40
            +1
            Quote: Liam
            And what does this have to do with the comparative growth of salaries in the Republic of Moldova and Belarus?

            didn't get it? ... fool
            didn’t get it ....
            1. Liam
              Liam 2 September 2020 18: 51
              -3
              Got it ... the emperor screwed up again ...
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 2 September 2020 19: 28
                +1
                Quote: Liam
                Got it ... emper screwed up once again ..

                oblite-wear a diaper mask.

                So that those around you, do not breathe ... Fi ...
                .
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 2 September 2020 08: 46
    +3
    He sculpted Belarus as the chairman of a collective farm and at a certain moment it saved the country, but as the chairman it was not enough to understand the global trends in time. It was necessary to change in place with the country, and not bend it under him.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 2 September 2020 08: 53
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      It was necessary to change in a place with the country, and not bend it under yourself

      Change? Do you mean to be like? I do not understand why? Who invented this and when? Change of power every 4 years, why? Just because this is how they live in Europe? Nonsense. The people of the BR do not complain about life, everyone around them complains about the life of the BR people, since they live like everyone else .. Fantastic.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 2 September 2020 09: 09
        +4
        Quote: Senka Mad
        Change? Do you mean to be like? I do not understand why? Who invented this and when?

        He saved Belarus and this is his merit, but there is no further progress! The economic situation of Belarus is becoming more and more dependent on Russia. There is no economic or political program, and with his throwing dad only aggravates the situation
        1. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 2 September 2020 09: 14
          -3
          Belarus is becoming more and more dependent on Russia.

          Note that this suits both Russia and Belarus, but does not suit the "West". Does nothing bother you in this situation?
  15. Graz
    Graz 2 September 2020 08: 47
    -1
    why was it to be sculpted, to know do not waste the foundation and gradually build it up, another thing is that the majority could not even do this
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 September 2020 08: 52
    -1
    Someone's dad is driving again. Sculptor, damn it! laughing Looks like he realized that Moscow does not drain it. Until.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 2 September 2020 08: 59
      -4
      Quote: Captive
      Someone's dad is driving again. Sculptor, damn it! laughing Looks like he realized that Moscow does not drain it. Until.

      He speaks in a language accessible to the people. We are just accustomed to the convoluted epotages of modern politicians. After the speeches of which there is a feeling that you have been promised a lot of noodles on your ears. And you yourself are to blame for this. As long as I remember him, he always communicated with the people on you, maybe that's why he has been ruling for so many years.
    2. Graz
      Graz 2 September 2020 08: 59
      +5
      for a good year, another year should be given for the transition and preparation of a normal shift, but categorically put the question squarely, fatigue from him is present both there and here. and then even if I'm tired like Yeltsin, I'm leaving, the best option
      1. cniza
        cniza 2 September 2020 09: 13
        +3
        Unfortunately, he will never do it.
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 2 September 2020 13: 09
        0
        EBNu such a decision to make "helped". Who will help daddy?
    3. cniza
      cniza 2 September 2020 09: 14
      +3
      Quote: Captive
      Someone's dad is driving again. Sculptor, damn it! laughing Looks like he realized that Moscow does not drain it. Until.


      It looks like he will merge himself ...
  17. evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 September 2020 08: 53
    +1
    Considering the complete collapse of industrial and cultural ties of a single country and the product sales market on which the enterprise was originally built. And abroad and their bison are enough, then Luka did his economy as correctly as possible, and 2 chairs are justified here. We would also build our economy, it is not a fact that we would live worse than today, not taking into account the oligorks and their servants. And the opposition, here dialogue and compromises are needed, and not indiscriminate, you are all animals, etc., etc.
    1. Graz
      Graz 2 September 2020 09: 12
      -3
      What 2 chairs are you talking about? What could the West buy from Lukashenka other than our oil refined products? There was no financial support from that side, not to mention the provision of a good part of the sales markets
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 2 September 2020 10: 03
        +1
        About the same 2 or more chairs as from time immemorial, all countries have been practicing-milking a sucker and the resale is sick of the rich to live. Nothing is new, but try to crank it up with the starting conditions and hammered idiology from the west, which was in the 90s, and see the collapse of everything and everything, try to save what is and it is desirable not to bring down the life of the population, realizing that your products are not really who will buy? The task is not very frail. I was able to do what I could and given the lack of resources I was able to do well. But he was the only one who kept it with an eye to the fact that the rest would be, and here it didn’t brace, the rest of the scoop went along the way I’ll sell and buy a button accordion, I don’t know but cool. The two three countries Ukraine, the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, had gone the same way in concert and immediately would have achieved better results today than what we have. And today the question already arises about the fact that the next ones, or at first still in Kazakhs, will try to polish the technology.
  18. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 2 September 2020 09: 07
    +3
    He needs to be careful with expressions. After all, he, in fact, recognizes the somewhat artificial nature of the Belarusian state.
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 September 2020 09: 12
      +6
      "My tongue is my enemy" is about him and it seems he does not quite understand ...
  19. Polymer
    Polymer 2 September 2020 09: 10
    -1
    Those who take to the streets to protest, Lukashenka once again did not even try to somehow hear and calm down with relatively diplomatic statements, but again called "fools who play with fire"

    He does the right thing, we need to call a spade a spade, and not be liberal with those who cover him up and down.
    They imposed this very "political correctness" on all of us ... as a result, now finding a politician who says what he thinks is not a real task. And outright lies are also covered by "political correctness".
  20. cniza
    cniza 2 September 2020 09: 11
    +2
    Those who take to the streets to protest, Lukashenka once again did not even try to somehow hear and calm down with relatively diplomatic statements, but again called "fools who play with fire."


    He's not stupid, what does he want?
  21. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 September 2020 09: 19
    +3
    Well it is. So he did - he fashioned the country as best he could. There was a unique historical moment for this. And what happened in the end bears the full imprint of his mind and talent. Unsurprisingly, the resulting cadaver sticks out its creator ...
    1. tatra
      tatra 2 September 2020 09: 43
      -4
      Well, yes, as always, the enemies of the communists - and you are not responsible for the seizure of the USSR by you, but those from whom you took the country away, for your "color coups" you are not responsible, but those against whom you are making coups ... If the people who seize the country have only stupid, evil AGAINST the existing government, as it was in Libya and Ukraine in 2014, then a priori these people can only ruin the country.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 2 September 2020 15: 46
        +1
        Something will attack me for the second inadequate in a week. You, too, are hovering somewhere in your separate universe. Who is there, in your separate world, who whispered to you that I am an anti-communist? And where did you get the absolutely fantastic conclusion that Lukashenka is a communist ?!
        The country-sized enterprise he built is intended solely to satisfy the wishes of a certain Lukashenka. Moreover, the Wishlist were so completely satisfied that the poor man completely lost his sense of reality, and, goggling his eyes, drove to one of his visible jelly shores, forgetting to look back - whether the "Blue-eyed Belarus" holdnig was following him. I was very surprised ...
        Chat with people more often. Less with imaginary friends ...
  22. JD1979
    JD1979 2 September 2020 09: 33
    +4
    The urks and the haunters are already near the mustache, they all gathered. From all imagination, it was only enough to remake the constitution for yourself and draw 3% each time. Immediately from the conversation, it is clear who is the main urk in the country.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 2 September 2020 09: 57
      0
      Urks and hangers-on are already near the mustache, all collected.


      Exactly..

      "According to the law, he will answer, he crossed the red line," Lukashenka said.

      According to the head of the republic, Latushko begged for all his posts from him.

      “I was on my knees, trembling:“ Send me to the government. ”Became the minister of culture. He worked as a minister.“ I want to be an ambassador. ”-“ Where? ”-“ To France. ”-“ Okay, go to France. ”How- then tried to be fatherly", - said the president.


      As I understand it, to appoint as ambassadors and ministers people who, in his opinion, are not very worthy of this - this is "paternal"
  23. Free wind
    Free wind 2 September 2020 09: 38
    -3
    It wasn't a fountain that I sculpted out of it. And if in certain circles surgeons are called sculptors, it is rather a horseman, this does not only apply to him.
    1. Kart
      Kart 2 September 2020 10: 12
      0
      Konovals overseas are excellent.
      And this one, on the contrary, preserved the maximum of the legacy of the USSR.
  24. Roman070280
    Roman070280 2 September 2020 09: 54
    -1
    The more I read Lukashenka, the more I understand that there are only two people left in the world who are saving their empires and not holding on to power - he and Putin ..
    The world will fall apart without them ..
  25. volf
    volf 2 September 2020 10: 21
    +2
    How tired of listening to the delirium of a sick person. Here you don't even have to be a doctor. Just listen to a person speaking at factories, in collectives and just in front of people. It's strange that people in the Russian Federation believe his words. Can you analyze the problem or do the nightingales rule?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 2 September 2020 11: 51
      0
      Soloviev, in fact, constantly criticizes him.
  26. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 2 September 2020 10: 23
    -2
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Russia can boast that it contains this item
    collective farm chairman

    Thanks for the content, bow to the ground.
    And they could contain the European Commissioner Shushkevich or Babariko for the glory of Russia. And Russia itself can boast that it has not yet entered the thousand-year European reich.
  27. iouris
    iouris 2 September 2020 11: 36
    -1
    "I blinded you out of what was." Lepo, Old Man, lepo!
    In fact, an interesting experiment was carried out in Belarus. But this model has exhausted itself for reasons beyond Lukashenka's control. Now it must be quickly and efficiently transformed into a single transformed state. And then all of us are transkluked nafig.
  28. strelokmira
    strelokmira 2 September 2020 12: 37
    +2
    Those who take to the streets to protest, Lukashenka once again did not even try to somehow hear and calm down with relatively diplomatic statements, but again called "fools who play with fire." For obvious reasons, such an epithet, to put it mildly, did not add Lukashenka's credibility on the part of those protesting against his policies.

    I left here, can you tell me when "VO" turned into "Voice of Lithuania"?
  29. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 September 2020 15: 28
    0
    During the year, Gazprom withdrew almost all the money that was in Belgazprombank. By the time of the presidential elections, 77 million rubles remained on the accounts of the financial institution, which is 202 times less than a year ago. 49,8% of Belgazprombank belongs to Gazprom and the same amount to Gazprombank. In fact, the largest bank in Belarus which was once headed by Viktor Babariko. Unlike the majority of wealthy Belarusians, Viktor Babariko never hid from the press, willingly gave interviews, often without hesitation in assessing. For example, the ex-banker noted that “Belarus is a country of learned helplessness,” meaning the inability of fellow citizens to improve their lives and the eternal shifting of responsibility onto others. And I am in favor of Russia defending its national interests, and not helping some freaks to their own detriment, for the sake of making them forget perestroika. laughing
  30. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 September 2020 15: 39
    -2
    I repeat more than once: in 1995 the Belarusians expressed their opinion in a referendum wherever they want. The swaying of modern Great Lithuanian princes and princes under the white-red-white flag is seasonal. The elections showed that the government was ready for this connecting rod, albeit with some confusion. Khe-khe ...
    Syabrov persistently and consistently leads the path trodden by the neighboring country in the letter U.
    The mustachioed will finish badly. laughing
  31. NF68
    NF68 2 September 2020 16: 22
    -1
    Not badly blinded. In comparison with all other 14 states in the territory of the former USSR.
  32. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 September 2020 16: 44
    -1
    Quote: NF68
    Not badly blinded. In comparison with all other 14 states in the territory of the former USSR.

    At the expense of Russian grandmothers, grandfathers, and grandchildren, grandchildren laughing
    1. NF68
      NF68 2 September 2020 18: 24
      -1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Quote: NF68
      Not badly blinded. In comparison with all other 14 states in the territory of the former USSR.

      At the expense of Russian grandmothers, grandfathers, and grandchildren, grandchildren laughing

      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Quote: NF68
      Not badly blinded. In comparison with all other 14 states in the territory of the former USSR.

      At the expense of Russian grandmothers, grandfathers, and grandchildren, grandchildren laughing


      In other states, they did not manage to do this, although they also milked Russia not badly.
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 September 2020 16: 51
    -1
    Some sort of carousel, Chinese tovaristchi have been drooling for a long time on Belaz. After that, the Belaz brand will certainly not be.
    [img] http: // https: //youtu.be/3nN_KRYHwUM? t = 6 [/ img]
    laughing
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  36. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 2 September 2020 17: 12
    0
    I read all the articles on VO on this topic. I have never expressed myself, and even now I cannot say anything concrete.
    However, I had a clear feeling that a little more and Lukashenka will have no choice but to throw himself into the open arms of the Russian Federation ...
    Do not laugh. What if this is a chance to start restoring the Union ...
    1. Husit
      Husit 2 September 2020 18: 31
      -2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Do not laugh. What if this is a chance to start restoring the Union ...

      Well, they love you in Israel, but we have no laughing matter here .. Ukraine and the Baltics alone are enough for the most not wanting .. hi
  37. Husit
    Husit 2 September 2020 18: 29
    -2
    he is in the presidency not in order to hold on to power for his own sake, but for the sake of not coming to power by "lords and scoundrels".

    In this I believe Old Man! Name me at least one Belarusian oligarch? THERE ARE NO SUCH !
    And Lukashenka once noticed that our businessmen started their business from scratch, and not like in neighboring countries with "privatization" .. And after all he is right! It is not for nothing that he has been cheated for so many years, controlled by "our bigwigs", "our media" .. They take malice, since such a tasty fragment of the USSR has not yet been plundered .. Boys are constantly sent with suitcases of money trying to organize raider seizures, etc. ... Well, what happened to them, everyone knows, Old Man kicked them out and, with the words, once again, I’ll put you in prison for a long time
    The moment has come when Belarus cannot exist in this capacity (Russia is tired of covering up and paying) ..
    There is only one way out, it is joining Russia, then something can be saved ..
  38. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 September 2020 20: 18
    -1
    Quote: NF68
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: NF68
    Not badly blinded. In comparison with all other 14 states in the territory of the former USSR.

    At the expense of Russian grandmothers, grandfathers, and grandchildren, grandchildren laughing

    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: NF68
    Not badly blinded. In comparison with all other 14 states in the territory of the former USSR.

    At the expense of Russian grandmothers, grandfathers, and grandchildren, grandchildren laughing


    In other states, they did not manage to do this, although they also milked Russia not badly.

    So that the Belarusians that the Okraintsy confused the budget of the RSFSR with their own pocket, Belaz, Maz were built at whose expense? laughing
  39. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 September 2020 20: 23
    -1
    Quote: Husit
    he is in the presidency not in order to hold on to power for his own sake, but for the sake of not coming to power by "lords and scoundrels".

    In this I believe Old Man! Name me at least one Belarusian oligarch? THERE ARE NO SUCH !
    And Lukashenka once noticed that our businessmen started their business from scratch, and not like in neighboring countries with "privatization" .. And after all he is right! It is not for nothing that he has been cheated for so many years, controlled by "our bigwigs", "our media" .. They take malice, since such a tasty fragment of the USSR has not yet been plundered .. Boys are constantly sent with suitcases of money trying to organize raider seizures, etc. ... Well, what happened to them, everyone knows, Old Man kicked them out and, with the words, once again, I’ll put you in prison for a long time
    The moment has come when Belarus cannot exist in this capacity (Russia is tired of covering up and paying) ..
    There is only one way out, it is joining Russia, then something can be saved ..

    Oili laughing Top 10 richest people in Belarus
    Andrey Melnichenko is a philanthropist and the richest person in Belarus.
    Andrey Klyamko is a modest and wealthy Belarusian.
    Victor Kisly is the youngest and the richest.
    Dmitry Mazepin - charity and non-publicity.
    Vladimir Peftiev is a business in Belarus by profession.
    Mikhail Abyzov is one of the most successful people in the country.
    Vyacheslav Zarenkov is a businessman and a generous person.
    Vitaly Arbuzov is a well-to-do specialist in Belarus.
    Alexander Moshensky is a rich and literate businessman.
    Pavel Topuzidis is a modest entrepreneur in Belarus.

    laughing Andrey Melnichenko is a Belarusian billionaire living in Russia
    Despite the fact that the businessman lives in the territory of the Russian Federation, he is included in two lists of the richest people at once: Russia and Belarus. The richest man in Belarus was born in Gomel, he is more engaged in entrepreneurship in Russia. He is the owner of a fortune of $ 15 billion, he owns the bulk of the shares of EuroChem, the energy company SGK, coal mining company SUEK. Mikhail started his entrepreneurial activity in the distant 90s, then he opened several currency exchangers, successfully sold the business, and became seriously interested in industry.

    Andrey Klyamko is an active and wealthy entrepreneur
    A very non-public person, he also belongs to the richest people in the Russian Federation and Belarus. He founded his first business in the 90s together with Vladimir Novinsky. In Ukraine, they founded Smart-Holding, which later acquired Inguletsky GOK. There are shares in the company "Metal-Group", "YaregaRuda". Among Klyamko's partners were Chernomyrdin and his son. Andrey's fortune in 2019 is $ 1,9 billion.
    laughing Proceed? In our time, you can't trust anyone at all, I can.
  40. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 September 2020 21: 21
    -1
    As for imports from Poland, I can explain that smuggling is rushing in a huge flow. There is a worked out scheme and in Western Ukraine, people on this make money who crosses the border.

    We have a program on TV, "The Inspector General" is called, the wife is watching. There, journalists check cafes, restaurants, hotels and retail chains. So they show live from Zap.Ukrainets. the shelves of large stores are littered with smuggling. And no one cares, or rather, they all have it. Figures and analytics are good things, they help to understand the ongoing processes.

    BUT ... for zmagars and Ukrainians, numbers and analytics have no meaning ... for them the West is an image of a bright future that they dream of ...

    Gaster's cherished dream is to become a native of the host country ... 

    People do not learn from the mistakes of others, and the sad experience of Ukrainians will not teach zmagars anything, they hope that they will succeed and integration with the West will bring them nothing but goodies. The most important thing is that the younger generation of Zmagars dreams of this. 

    It is necessary to let the zmagars float freely and stop dating the RB ... the food is not in the horse ...

    The fate of the Republic of Belarus is to become a zhrachka for the West, it is pointless to keep them, they will always see an enemy in Russia who did not allow them to live dear and boHato in the West ... It was Luka who, with his policy of bogo-vectorism, planted a bomb under the future of his country ...  laughing
  41. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 2 September 2020 22: 23
    0
    Who sculpted?
    This is an official. Cunning,
    I cannot say otherwise.
    The worst thing is that no one won in his game.
    So the game was mediocre.
    1. iouris
      iouris 2 September 2020 23: 17
      -1
      Quote: DKuznecov
      The worst thing is that no one won in his game. So the game was mediocre.

      The main thing is that no one has lost. I don't think Lukashenka has offshore accounts. The Belarusians lived relatively calmly and stopped adequately assessing what they have. But you can lose everything very quickly. And what can even a whole president of a separate Belarus do? He could only keep the situation. He kept it until all sorts of very bad processes were going on in the Russian Federation. But these processes are decisive for Belarus too. Of course, no one says that he is an ideal politician, but he has merits before the population or people. And this population or people should understand that the country and the state (including the Russian Federation) are hanging over the abyss, there are no simple solutions. These issues are not resolved by meetings. Ahead is either death or development.
  42. Iskazi
    Iskazi 3 September 2020 04: 20
    0
    Dad told the truth ..., sculpted from what was ..., everyone, from the Kremlin to Washington, interfered, but unfortunately Dad did not take into account the deadlines, and did not acquire worthy assistants and successors of the modeling process ..., sadness, dad will merge. ...., and it's a pity such prospects.