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"The danger of Wrangel is becoming enormous ..."

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"The danger of Wrangel is becoming enormous ..."

Wrangel is still alive, finish him off without mercy. Artist D. S. Moor (Orlov). 1920


In the face of defeat on the Polish front, large-scale insurgent, peasant and bandit uprisings throughout Russia (Caucasus, Ukraine, Central Russia, Volga, Siberia and Turkestan), a breakthrough of the Wrangelites from the Tavria region to the north could lead to a new increase in the scale of the civil war.

"To recognize the Wrangel front as the main one ..."


On August 5, 1920, the plenum of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) recognized the priority of the Wrangel front over the Polish one. This was due to the "dizziness from the successes" of the Soviet military-political leadership. It was believed that Poland had almost fallen, that Warsaw would be red. On August 19, the Politburo made the decision "To recognize the Wrangel front as the main one ..." At that time, Tukhachevsky's armies were defeated and were retreating from Warsaw. However, Wrangel's army was considered the main threat.

Why? The answer is in the internal situation in Soviet Russia. The country was covered by a new wave of uprisings and riots. The Bolsheviks destroyed the main centers of resistance of the White Army. However, a large-scale peasant war was still raging in Russia. Failed to suppress the criminal revolution. Various insurgents, the remnants of the defeated White Guards, deserters of various armies, chieftains, fathers and crime bosses raged everywhere. Peasant uprisings engulfed the provinces of Siberia, where, until recently, the red partisans became one of the main reasons for the defeat of Kolchak's army. Now the same peasant leaders rose up against the Bolsheviks, the atrocities of the Cheka and the surplus appropriation system.

In Bashkiria, in the spring, one peasant uprising was suppressed (the uprising of the "Black Eagle"). In the summer, a new uprising began. One of its leaders was Akhmet-Zaki Validov. After the 1917 revolution, he advocated "autonomy" (in fact, independence) of Bashkiria with the inclusion of part of the territories of the Orenburg, Perm, Samara and Ufa provinces. Then he opposed the Kolchak government, received the support of the Bolsheviks. The Bashkir Soviet Republic was established. When Moscow began to restrict the autonomy of the Bashkir Republic, Validov and other members of the Bashkir Revolutionary Committee resigned and headed the anti-Soviet movement. Then Validov fled to Turkestan, where he was organizing the Basmach movement.


The leader of the Bashkir national and Basmach movement in Turkestan, publicist, historian and orientalist-Turkologist Akhmet-Zaki Validov

Sapozhkov's uprising


The Greens operated on the border of the Perm and Chelyabinsk provinces. The Samara province was seized by the Sapozhkov uprising. Alexander Sapozhkov was a participant in the German campaign. At first he supported the Left SRs, then went over to the side of the Bolsheviks. He was a member of the Samara provincial committee, formed Red Guard detachments from revolutionary-minded peasants and former front-line soldiers. The Red Guard brigades of Sapozhkov and Chapaev entered the 1918th Army of the Eastern Front, created in June 4. The brigade defended Uralsk from the White Cossacks and the Komuch army. Sapozhkov proved to be a talented commander. He headed the 22nd Infantry Division, which successfully fought back in the surrounded Uralsk from the Ural White Cossacks of General Tolstoy. The division held the defense for 80 days, it was removed by Chapaev's group. The heroic defense of Uralsk glorified the 22nd division: three of its regiments were awarded the Honorary Revolutionary Red Banners, another regiment and over 100 people were awarded the Orders of the Red Banner. The division commander himself received a telegram of greetings from Lenin.

Then the 22nd division was transferred to the Southern Front, but Sapozhkov was sent to the rear to form a new division "for inept command and for a corrupting policy". The 9th Cavalry Division was formed from former soldiers of the 25th Chapayev Division (mainly peasants) and the Ural Cossacks, who went over to the side of the Reds. There were many Left SRs among the commanders. Discipline was weak, violence against local residents and anti-Soviet sentiments flourished. The command of the division did not suppress these sentiments, rather, on the contrary. The reason for the uprising was the removal of Sapozhkov from the post of division commander. In response, on July 14, 1920, Sapozhkov and the commanders of his division revolted. They created the 1st Red Army, Pravda. The Sapozhkovites opposed the commissars and old military experts, demanded the reorganization of the Soviets, the abolition of the policy of war communism (the abolition of the surplus appropriation system, food detachments, the return of free trade, etc.).

The rebels took Buzuluk, but on July 16 the Reds recaptured it. Sapozhkov retreated from the city to the southeast. In this regard, Fedorov, the chief of the operational department of the Zavolzhsky military district, reported: “The further he moves south, the more sympathy among the population Sapozhkov meets, and the more successful his mobilization. Sapozhkov is rejoiced here, we are feared and hated. The further Sapozhkov moves, the more difficult it will be to fight him. " The command of the military district acted very unsatisfactorily. Therefore, the fight against the rebels continued throughout August. The Sapozhkovites even tried to take Uralsk and Novouzensk. Only under pressure from Moscow, where they feared the growth of the rebellion, the uprising was suppressed. The forces of the rebels were melting, and they were forced to retreat to the Trans-Volga steppes. On September 6, Sapozhkov died, the remnants of his forces were scattered and captured.

Caucasus. Ukraine. Tambov


The North Caucasian highlanders in Dagestan were again raised by Imam Gotsinsky. The highlanders of the Gunib, Avar and Andean districts overthrew the power of the Bolsheviks under the slogan "imam and sharia". The uprising spread to Chechnya, where Gotsinsky fled in 1921 when the rebels were suppressed in Dagestan.

The remnants of Denikin's defeated troops were walking in the Kuban. Not all White Guards and White Cossacks were able to evacuate to Crimea. Many hid in the villages, fled to the mountains and coastal swamps. Several large detachments were created, which consisted of hundreds of fighters. In the summer of 1920, the former commander of the 2nd Kuban Division formed the "Army of the Renaissance of Russia" and occupied a number of villages of the Batalpashinsky department. By the time of the Ulagayev landing in the Kuban, Fostikov's army numbered about 5 thousand fighters. After the defeat of the landing Ulagaya, the Red Army was able to crush the troops of Fostikov. In September, the remnants of the White Cossacks fled to Georgia, from where they were taken to the Crimea.

Makhno still reigned in the Left-Bank Ukraine. He was on his own at that time. Wrangel tried to win over the willful dad to his side, but did not succeed. The Makhnovists considered themselves enemies of the White Guards. Right-bank Ukraine, where the front lines of the Polish and the Red had just swept through, was again teeming with detachments, gangs, daddies and chieftains.

In August 1920, a powerful uprising engulfed the Tambov province, neighboring districts of the Voronezh and Saratov provinces. It was headed by the commander of the United Partisan Army and the chairman of the Union of Working Peasants (STK) Pyotr Tokmakov and the chief of staff of the 2nd Insurgent Army, a member of the Socialist-Revolutionary Party Alexander Antonov. The number of rebels reached 50 thousand people. The precondition for the uprising was the policy of war communism (against the background of drought and crop failure).


Partisan army of the Tambov province

A new attempt to destroy Wrangel's army


Wrangel's army could become the center of the organization of a powerful anti-Soviet movement (as in his time Denikin managed to raise the Kuban and Don). In the face of defeat on the Polish front, large-scale insurgent, peasant and bandit uprisings throughout Russia (Caucasus, Ukraine, Central Russia, Volga, Siberia and Turkestan), the breakthrough of the Wrangelites from the Tavria region to the north could lead to a new increase in the scale of the civil war. In early August 1920, Lenin wrote to Stalin: "In connection with the uprisings, especially in the Kuban, and then in Siberia, the danger of Wrangel becomes enormous, and within the Central Committee there is a growing desire to immediately conclude peace with bourgeois Poland ..."

As soon as the Wrangelites began an operation in the Kuban, the Soviet command again decided to repeat the offensive in Tavria - from Kakhovka and Aleksandrovsk. Gorodovikov's 2nd Cavalry Army was to strike from the eastern flank, from the Aleksandrovsk region to Melitopol. On the right flank, Blucher's strike group from the 51st and 52nd rifle divisions was preparing for the offensive. This time, the right-flank group inflicted the main blow not on Perekop, but on Melitopol, in order to join up with Gorodovikov's cavalry. Only one division, the Latvian, was advancing on Perekop.

Thus, as before, the red command planned to encircle most of Wrangel's army in Tavria, to prevent the enemy from leaving for the Crimea. In addition, there was a hope that if it did not come out to destroy the enemy's army, then at least the threat from the northern direction would prevent the White Guards from transferring additional forces to the Kuban, or even force the White command to transfer the landing units of the Ulagaya group to the north.

To be continued ...
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Articles from this series:
Smoot. 1920 year

Battle of Rostov
The disaster of white Odessa
How Slashchev Crimea defended
Dono-Manych battle
The death of the Northern Army Miller
Why Western agent Kolchak is turned into a hero and martyr of Russia
The defeat of the army of Denikin in the battle of Tikhorets
How did the Ice Siberian campaign end
The fall of the White Kuban
Agony of White Novorossiysk
The death of the Kuban army
Denikin's resignation
Far Eastern Republic and the Japanese threat
Polish "liberation" campaign in Kiev
Baku “Blitzkrieg” of the Red Army
The battle for Belarus. May operation of the Red Army
War of the Russian Army Wrangel
The first victories of the Wrangel army
The defeat of the 13th Soviet Army in Northern Tavria
Our Kiev!
The battle for Rivne. How Budyonnovtsy smashed the Polish defense
Minsk is ours! The defeat of the Polish army in Belarus
Battle for Lviv. The failure of the Red Army in Galicia
The death of the cavalry group Rednecks
The fierce battle for the Kakhovsky bridgehead
The defeat of the landing group Ulagaya
"Miracle on the Vistula"
How Tukhachevsky destroyed his armies on the Vistula
Battle of Komarov. Defeat of the 1st Cavalry Army
Bukhara Blitzkrieg Frunze
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  1. Olgovich
    Olgovich 2 September 2020 06: 45 New
    -17
    The provinces of Siberia were engulfed in peasant uprisings. Now the same peasant leaders rose up against the Bolsheviks, the atrocities of the Cheka and the surplus appropriation system.

    The words of Alexander Vasilyevich Kolchak to them at one time turned out to be prophetic: "Fight for your freedom while you have cannons, machine guns, an army. Then come forward anyway, but you will have to fight with your bare hands."

    Caucasus. Ukraine. Tambov, Ural, Siberia


    Russia fought stubbornly for its freedom with the usurpers for many years.

    In 1991, the power of the Bolsheviks collapsed instantly - with complete indifference of all
    1. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 2 September 2020 07: 49 New
      17
      Olgovich (Andrey)
      In 1991, the power of the Bolsheviks collapsed instantly - with complete indifference of all
      Do not flatter yourself, the monarchy collapsed in the same way, and the bourgeois provisional government even faster. Moreover, it is the interim government of liberals, chatterboxes and demagogues of all powers that is a copy of the modern government, which, apart from empty chatter and demagoguery, cannot offer anything else.
      And the civil war continues, it just passed into a colder phase, but you and your like have not yet won. The Bolsheviks created a system of justice for everyone and it lasted 70 years, the bourgeoisie created a society of justice only for their loved ones. Stretched out 30 years, let's see how much you have enough ... However, the current system has already been born rotten, so I think I'll still see the collapse of your rotten capitalism!
      Russia fought stubbornly for its freedom with the usurpers for many years.
      Yeah, Bulavin, Razin, Pugachev, salt riot, copper riot, etc. etc.
      How you love to write to everyone, "hack your nose" - THE TRUE USURPATORS IN RUSSIA WERE AND WILL BE THE OPERATORS OF THE LABOR PEOPLE!
      1. Soho
        Soho 2 September 2020 09: 53 New
        -8
        The Bolsheviks created a system of justice for all and it lasted 70 years

        Build justice? This "justice" was very well appreciated by those who were shot or rotted in Kolyma on the basis of triplets. Stop carrying this revolutionary nonsense. There was equality under the Bolsheviks, but who was always more equal than others, according to Orwell
        1. The comment was deleted.
          1. Soho
            Soho 2 September 2020 12: 20 New
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            Why did you fart there?

            It is your prerogative to use your butt for mental activity and for expressing your thoughts.
            were all the inmates innocent sheep?

            You, dear chatterbox, tell us how Korolev, Tupolev, Likhachev, Vavilov, Meyerhold, Mandelstam were guilty? Why were the physicist Walter, the academician in the field of electronics Vekshinsky, the academician in the field of rocketry Glushko, the physicist academician Lukirsky, the academician in the field of heat engineering Mikheev and many, many others destroyed ???? You are not a Varyag, you are a pea yap
            1. place
              place 2 September 2020 14: 28 New
              +3
              Quote: Soho
              You, little respected chatterbox, tell us how guilty were Korolev, Tupolev, Likhachev,

              --------------

              You, not at all respected, tell us how it is in your head even the obvious crimes against the Soviet law and the state (for example, the condemnation of innocent people, believers, etc.) suddenly become crimes of the Soviet state itself ?

              However, for those whose brains have been turned inside out by the efforts of our media and inserted into their skulls "upside down" - it is unlikely that anything will help ... A striking example of "patriotic" idiocy is the attitude towards Validov, the leader of the Basmachi, who successfully took his place in the "pantheon of the white saints" next to his allies and friends of the Entente - Kolchak and Wrangel.
              1. place
                place 2 September 2020 14: 30 New
                +5
                I will add that the monument to Zaki Validov, the enemy of Russia, now stands on the square in Ufa and pleases the eye of modern "creative" nerds.
                1. Sergey Oreshin
                  Sergey Oreshin 2 September 2020 22: 44 New
                  -5
                  From the fact that you call Validov "enemy of Russia" 100500 times, the monument to him in Ufa will not fall by itself))) It seems an obvious truth, isn't it?
                  Are you afraid for the revival of the Ufa province, on whose territory there will be monuments to Russian statesmen - and if you don’t want / cannot / don’t know how to fight, then what is the point of shaking the air?
              2. Soho
                Soho 2 September 2020 16: 33 New
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                You, not at all respected, tell us how it is in your head that even obvious crimes against Soviet law and the state (for example, condemnation of innocent people, believers, etc.) suddenly become crimes of the Soviet state itself?

                For you ladies with low social responsibility, it is quite excusable not to know that the judges of the triplets were in the status of state representatives. They included representatives of party bodies and the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs. If it seems to you from the roost that the state system that gave rise to such a practice of bringing charges, considering a case and passing a sentence has nothing to do with it, then you are deeply mistaken. You have a very clumsy attempt to blame this on specific individuals who allegedly killed the citizens of the country on a massive scale on their own initiative, without orders from above.
            2. Free wind
              Free wind 2 September 2020 15: 47 New
              +4
              Let's just say that the title of academician was officially approved in 1945, that is, in 1937-1938, the destroyed academicians were not academicians. The annihilated academician Glushko, happily lived to a ripe old age, in fact, other academicians you mentioned. Most were arrested as a result of anonymous letters, a common human meanness. According to Tupolev, the story is, of course, murky. Having visited the United States to study and possibly buy planes, I went with my wife, well, I bought there documentation for a couple of planes, which turned out to be absolutely unacceptable. He was accused of embezzling millions of dollars, and was shot for less waste.
              1. DrEng527
                DrEng527 2 September 2020 17: 07 New
                -3
                Quote: Free Wind
                the title of academician was officially approved in 1945, t

                How interesting! bully I understand that for you, scientific life in Russia began under the USSR? wink I will enlighten you - before the Academy of Sciences of the USSR there was SPB AS request
                for example: shipbuilder A.N. Krylov - Academician of the Petersburg Academy of Sciences / RAS / USSR Academy of Sciences (since 1916; Corresponding Member since 1914); and the mathematician Chebyshev is an academician since 1859 ... hi
              2. Soho
                Soho 2 September 2020 17: 43 New
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                Yes, you wag with your tongue, that with a broom. You storytellers gathered here one more beautifully. For one it is the scientists themselves who are to blame, for the other the bummer it is the fault of individual NKVD members, for the third it is an accident, the academicians are not academicians (and this probably, according to the twisted logic of this Wind, probably justifies their destruction) ... by this logic, the NSDAP is a harmless political party, the blame for the death of tens of millions lies with only a few psychopaths and scum.
                It’s always interesting how rot takes over in people's brains. And they begin to reason like the Free Wind commentator.
                The annihilated academician Glushko, happily lived to a ripe old age, in fact, other academicians you mentioned.

                In your alternate universe
                1. Free wind
                  Free wind 2 September 2020 18: 18 New
                  +3
                  Destroyed in 1937-1938. Glushko - died 1989, Vekshinsky-1974, Lukirsky-1954, Mikheev-1970. The title of academician in the USSR began to be awarded in 1945.
                  1. Ka-52
                    Ka-52 3 September 2020 07: 19 New
                    -2
                    lying how you breathe
                    Viktor Grigorievich Glushkov (March 10 [March 23, new style] 1883, Verny (Alma-Ata) - 1937, prison in Leningrad) - Russian scientist-hydrologist, specialist in the field of hydraulic engineering and hydrodynamics. Corresponding member of the USSR Academy of Sciences in the Department of Mathematical and Natural Sciences (Hydrology) since March 29, 1932. Academician of the VASKhNIL.

                    Vekshinsky Sergey Arkadievich (1896-1974) - a specialist in the field of electronics and vacuum technology. Corresponding member Academy of Sciences of the USSR since 1946, academician since 1953. Shortly before his arrest, he was removed from the post of chief engineer of the Svetlana plant, transferred to the designers of the Branch Vacuum Laboratory (Leningrad). His colleague ZI Model described what happened: "Vekshinsky had the misfortune of being a very young man to visit abroad: as a polytechnic student, he was sent to buy weapons and ammunition in the USA. He was arrested at the end of the Yezhov war. stand until you confess. "-" What? "-" I don't know, confess! "He confessed that he was spying for Germany, England, France and America." Something's a bit too much ... Well, write. " shortly after Yezhov was replaced by Beria. Admitted to the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks. At the plant he was left as a consultant. " Vekshinsky spent a year and a half - from the beginning of 1938 to the second half of 1939

                    not shot, but from the "fair" government picked up pies
                    But on my own I will add to your karma
                    Fedorovsky Nikolai Mikhailovich (1886-1956) - a prominent scientist in the field of mineralogy. Corresponding Member of the USSR Academy of Sciences from 1933 to April 29, 1938 (excluded by the General Meeting). At the time of his arrest, he was director of the All-Union Institute of Mineral Raw Materials (VIMS, Moscow). Arrested on October 25, 1937 on charges of counter-revolutionary sabotage activities, received a 15-year sentence. First I got to Vorkutlag. In 1942 he was transferred to Moscow, worked at the Institute of Fertilizers. In 1945 he was sent to Norilsk, where he taught mineralogy at the Geological College, and later worked at the Norilsk Combine. For some time he was unconvoyed, two years before liberation he was again placed in the zone and transferred to general work. He was rehabilitated on April 24, 1954. When the news of the rehabilitation reached him, he suffered a stroke, was brought by his daughter to Moscow in a serious condition, but never recovered from his illness.

                    Parnas Yakub Oskarovich (1884-1949) biochemist. One of the founders of the USSR Academy of Medical Sciences, full member of the USSR Academy of Medical Sciences, member of the German Academy of Naturalists, Corresponding Member of the Polish Academy of Sciences, Honorary Doctor of the Sorbonne and the University of Athens. Laureate of the Stalin Prize (1942). He was awarded the Order of Lenin and the Order of the Red Banner of Labor. Major works on tissue metabolism of carbohydrates and enzymatic processes underlying muscle contraction. In 1935, in co-authorship, he discovered the process of cleavage of glycogen with the participation of phosphoric acid. Gave a theoretical analysis of the mechanism of glycolysis and alcoholic fermentation and the relationship between the reactions of glycolysis and other transformations in muscles. One of the pioneers of the application of the isotope method in biochemistry in the USSR. Until 1948 - Director of the Institute of Biochemistry of the Academy of Medical Sciences. Arrested on January 29, 1949 on charges of espionage, died in custody. Rehabilitated in April 1954.

                    Likhachev Nikolai Petrovich (1862-1936) Outstanding historian, art critic, corresponding member of the St. Petersburg Academy of Sciences, academician of the USSR Academy of Sciences, member of the Archaeographic Commission of the Academy of Sciences, professor of Leningrad State University, director of the Museum of Paleography of the Academy of Sciences. Author of many works on the history of Russia. Arrested on January 28, 1930, charged with participation in a counter-revolutionary conspiracy of the monarchists. After exile he was released. He was deprived of his livelihood due to confiscation of property, non-issuance of food ration cards, inability to get a job and receive a pension. He died in 1936. He was rehabilitated by the VK Armed Forces on July 20, 1967. He was reinstated in the Academy of Sciences by a decree of the Presidium of the USSR Academy of Sciences of April 5, 1968.

                    get rid of at least these, amateur-Leninist
                    1. Free wind
                      Free wind 3 September 2020 08: 06 New
                      +2
                      Firstly, not Glushkov, but Glushko. I wrote about the note, and the names indicated in it. Where am I wrong?
                      1. Ka-52
                        Ka-52 3 September 2020 10: 54 New
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                        What am I wrong?

                        here in this:
                        Most were arrested as a result of anonymous letters, a common human meanness.

                        you speak of repression as an element. Like an earthquake, a blind force of nature, which is stupid to blame. In fact, the repression was a systemic act. The struggle for the power of the top, its defense mechanism, an element class fight. Therefore, it is impossible to separate the system, the party, leaders and leaders from this bloody mechanism.
                      2. Free wind
                        Free wind 3 September 2020 11: 07 New
                        +1
                        Now what? Anonymous letters go in wagons. these faithful citizens just get everyone. Ask the district police if the dog barked incorrectly, then the eggs were cut off for the cat, the grass is mowed in the morning, then a pancake in the evening ............ laughing
                      3. Ka-52
                        Ka-52 3 September 2020 12: 12 New
                        -2
                        Now what? Anonymous letters go in wagons. these faithful citizens just get everyone. Ask the district police, then the dog barked incorrectly, the eggs were cut off for the cat, then the grass is mowed in the morning, then a pancake in the evening ............ laughing

                        who get it ???? What nonsense? If they cut their ears, they will not come right away. In the 30s of the last century, for such "creativity" your cold corpse would have been eaten by worms in a mass unmarked grave. And now you also collect huskies in clusters as a faithful Leninist and a fighter with a redhead laughing not ashamed to lie?
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 2 September 2020 11: 59 New
      -4
      Quote: Soho
      Build justice?

      do not argue with the blue-blouse. He has a coloring book "My Motherland - USSR" and a pink felt-tip pen. Don't interfere.
  2. Sergey Oreshin
    Sergey Oreshin 2 September 2020 11: 26 New
    +3
    Do you know what is the difference between the Bolsheviks of 100 years ago and you (as well as many other commentators on this site)? You all sit, virtually swear with political opponents, give regular minuses to Olgovich and think that "I will still see the collapse of your rotten capitalism."
    And the Bolsheviks (no matter how we treat them) did not sit, did not wait and did not think. They acted! They went to factories and factories, went to villages, went to the soldiers' barracks, they went on strike, they organized the publication of newspapers and illegal literature, they created military detachments. They ACTION They actively fought against the tsarist regime. They died on the gallows, died in casemates, fled from penal servitude and from exile. In a word, they waged an active political struggle.
    Well, you - wait. Maybe you will really wait for the collapse of capitalism)))
    1. place
      place 2 September 2020 16: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Sergey Oreshin
      And the Bolsheviks (no matter how we treat them) did not sit, did not wait and did not think.


      How many were there? Until 1917, fewer than a hundred delegates attended the conventions of various parties. Therefore, I think you can talk about thousands of activists. In our time, thousands of people go out to political actions ... Do you think that now no one goes to jail "for an idea"? ... You will not be shown them on TV, these are not pop stars... And here the bazaar is not activists, but simply ordinary people like me or you, who a hundred years ago did not possess any information at all ...

      In addition, the activation of the inhabitants in Russia at the beginning of the 20th century did not take place "just like that" and not because of their great consciousness - the Great War was going on, there were objective conditions for the growth of activity.
    2. BAI
      BAI 2 September 2020 16: 56 New
      +2
      Do you know what is the difference between the Bolsheviks of 100 years ago and you

      Very much like an anecdote from the 80s.
      What is the difference between the Komsomol members of the 20s and 80s? The Komsomol members of the 20s could do everything, and the Komsomol members of the 80s did everything "below the belt, above the knee." Literally, the moderators will not miss.
      1. Avior
        Avior 2 September 2020 18: 55 New
        0
        There is a completely correct miner "to the light bulb"
        The horse race was worn on a belt, on a special hook, it was she who then migrated onto her helmet on her head.
        1. BAI
          BAI 2 September 2020 19: 14 New
          0
          Not. Not "before ...", but "by ....". The light bulb has nothing to do with body parts. And the moderators have nothing against her.
          1. Avior
            Avior 2 September 2020 21: 21 New
            +1
            This is a persistent idiom.
            "Until the bulb" in the meaning fully corresponds to what the moderators will not miss smile
    3. DrEng527
      DrEng527 2 September 2020 17: 11 New
      -5
      Quote: Sergey Oreshin
      and didn't think

      controversial dignity of a manager ... request that is why they made a coup in 17g and got GW, hunger ... they introduced military communism and destroyed the economy - they had to introduce the NEP ... request Then they started industrialization and collectivization - as a result, famine and 30 years did not increase the yield in the USSR ... request In 1941, they formed 29MK, had 20 tanks, and the Germans reached Moscow ... hi
      Quote: Sergey Oreshin
      They actively fought against the tsarist regime.

      with the money of Japanese, American, German and Russian bourgeois ... request It's like now in Ukraine ... hi
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 3 September 2020 15: 52 New
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        Quote: DrEng527
        that's why they made a coup in 17g and got GV
        Which coup was the result of this? If you don't know - in 1917 there were two... The bourgeoisie could not offer anything worthwhile and lost power.

        Quote: DrEng527
        Then they started industrialization and collectivization - as a result, famine and 30 years did not increase the yield in the USSR ...
        As a result? And do not enlighten us about the periodically coming hungry years? Don't know about this? Find out!
        But what about the objective causes of hunger? Was not the low mechanization of the village the reason?
        Would you like to tell us about the reasons for the need for collectivization? Or is all this not convenient?

        Quote: DrEng527
        In 1941, they formed 29MK, had 20 tanks, and the Germans reached Moscow ...
        How many wars has the monarchy won in its last years? But wars became more and more a war of mechanisms! What was the level of industrialization in RI? What about trends?
        I think that by the 40s, RI could not have opposed anything militarily.

        Quote: DrEng527
        for money ... and Russian bourgeois ...
        So the Bolsheviks are not bourgeois ... or bourgeois?
    4. mat-vey
      mat-vey 5 September 2020 06: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Sergey Oreshin
      Do you know what is the difference between the Bolsheviks of 100 years ago and you (as well as many other commentators on this site)?

      What's the difference between you and "the feet of other commentators on this site"?
      1. Sergey Oreshin
        Sergey Oreshin 5 September 2020 09: 07 New
        +1
        Well, I don’t say that I “dream of seeing the collapse of capitalism,” I don’t arrange various srachs on the topic “was there socialism in the USSR” from scratch, and I don’t put any minuses to Olgovich)))
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 5 September 2020 09: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Sergey Oreshin
          Well, I don’t say that I “dream of seeing the collapse of capitalism,” I don’t arrange various srachs on the topic “was there socialism in the USSR” from scratch, and I don’t put any minuses to Olgovich)))

          And what, is it fundamentally what distinguishes you from other commentators on the entertainment resource? You here already deign to mentor - what about "shkolota" you say - just like a classic YouTube troll ..
          1. Sergey Oreshin
            Sergey Oreshin 5 September 2020 14: 07 New
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            I will say briefly: I do not like balabolov
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 5 September 2020 14: 42 New
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              Quote: Sergey Oreshin
              I will say briefly: I do not like balabolov

              And you are not a relative of Khrushchev? ... This is the Internet - there are two opinions here, one of mine, the other is not correct ... It is better then to keep it with you ... In someone's eyes you can also look like a balabol ...
              1. Sergey Oreshin
                Sergey Oreshin 5 September 2020 16: 55 New
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                One thing is a well-reasoned opinion with which you can debate, another is empty talk and provoking srachs out of the blue
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 6 September 2020 06: 18 New
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                  It is one thing when a historian or a specialist who has devoted his whole life to this, who has studied a bunch of documents and has lived half of his life in the archives, is another - some kind of Sergei, who cannot be counted with his own on the Internet, to put it mildly, an ambiguous "reasoned" opinion ...
                  1. Sergey Oreshin
                    Sergey Oreshin 6 September 2020 17: 25 New
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                    I explain it on my fingers. An article about Wrangel and his war with the RSFSR. A reasoned discussion is when commentators begin to analyze the tactical decisions of the red and white commanders, discuss the actions of certain units, discuss the foreign policy of Wrangel and Lenin, and compare their internal policies towards peasants, workers, and Cossacks.
                    Empty nonsense is when some commentators (let's not point fingers) begin to argue about serfdom, the role of Ivan the Terrible and Stalin in Russian history, whether there was socialism in the USSR or not, why the Union collapsed, who is to blame. That is, the dispute (turning into srach and insults to individuals) begins on issues that have not the slightest relation to the topic of the article
                  2. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 7 September 2020 05: 18 New
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                    Hopefully you don’t need to explain on your fingers that the discussion of the agrarian reform in the article about the Turkmen units is inappropriate?
                    Quote: Sergey Oreshin
                    Empty nonsense is when some commentators (let's not point fingers) begin to argue about serfdom, the role of Ivan the Terrible and Stalin in Russian history, whether there was socialism in the USSR or not, why the Union collapsed, who is to blame.

                    and once again about the "fingers" - the old-timers of the site have known each other for a long time and communicate based on their previous disputes and, so to speak, discussions and to intermeddle with them into long-established "relations" is, as it were, "in a strange monastery with its own charter" ... ... shkolota in one word ...
  • DrEng527
    DrEng527 2 September 2020 16: 53 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    the monarchy collapsed in the same way

    By no means - in February 17, there was a summit coup, and in 1991 there was a lot of things before Gorby's resignation, incl. gigantic rallies in Moscow in August request
  • DrEng527
    DrEng527 2 September 2020 16: 58 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    The Bolsheviks created a system of justice for everyone and it existed for 70 years,

    you have an extremely peculiar understanding of justice ... request
    I recall:
    when the VIL people were starving, and this lived in Gorki ... request
    at the temporary detention center the people were starving, and this lived in dachas - - the Near, Far, Caucasus ...
    under the National Union of Artists, the people lived from hand to mouth, and this had the same dachas, and also in Pitsunda ...
    under LIB, the people did not live richly, and they additionally had their own garage of expensive cars and an estate in Zavidovo ...
    even Gorby managed to build himself a dacha in Foros for 0,5 billion rubles - now it is several yards of greenery ...
    request
  • Simargl
    Simargl 3 September 2020 15: 40 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    The Bolsheviks created a system of justice for everyone and it existed for 70 years,
    The Bolsheviks were almost completely over by the end of the 30s.
    The system changed several times (5, sort of).
    Justice was also interpreted in different ways.
    There has never been equality.
  • ayh
    ayh 3 September 2020 17: 58 New
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    What does the current system dislike - the flesh of the flesh of the Soviet regime? All the elite come from the valiant Komsomol, VVP is a direct descendant of the "Leninist cook" :), Shoigu is the former secretary of the regional committee, and so on. Do not be discouraged, the communists-Stalinists will soon come to power, crap as usual, then it will be possible to build a normal rotten capitalism.
  • ayh
    ayh 3 September 2020 18: 08 New
    +1
    By the way, for the Russian Empire, whites fought for at least 3 years in an almost hopeless ratio. And for the USSR after 91, somehow no one rose.
    1. Sergey Oreshin
      Sergey Oreshin 4 September 2020 15: 49 New
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      In fairness, it should be noted that not all whites were monarchists.
  • DPN
    DPN 3 September 2020 20: 58 New
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    And now they mostly remember J.V. Stalin and the fertile times of L.I.Brezhnev before his old age and curse Gorbachev and Yeltsin, it's about the people, the elite, of course, not, they became millionaires.
  • rich
    rich 2 September 2020 07: 16 New
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    In Bashkiria, in the spring, one peasant uprising was suppressed (the uprising of the "Black Eagle"). In the summer, a new uprising began. One of its leaders was Akhmet-Zaki Validov.

    Thank you for the article. But it is a pity that the respected author dwelled on the personality of Akhmet-Zaki Validov so briefly. All the same, the branch is "history"
    Doctor of History and Philosophy, Professor Validov is considered by world historians to be a recognized authority on Turkology and Arabology. Published about 400 papers in 11 languages. In the USSR and modern Russia, his scientific works "History of the Turks". "History of the Tatars", "History of the Bulgars and the Kazan Khanate", "Türkic peoples in antiquity", "Desht-i-Kipchak or the state of the Golden Horde", "Bulgaria after the Tatars. Kazan Khanate "," Bukhara Khanate "are considered fundamental in this topic.
    Validi signed Arabic works published in Russia as Akhmetzaki, Akhmetzaki Validi, A. Validi. Works published in Russian were signed by him as A.-Z. Validov, Akhmet Zakiy Validov. Editions published in Europe are signed as A. Zeki Validi. Used the pseudonyms Soklykayoglu, A.T. Kahyaoglu, Suyargul
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    1. Free wind
      Free wind 2 September 2020 15: 56 New
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      Barmaley, he is barmaley, whatever he writes there. And according to Wrangel, she's still darling. His words, even with the devil in his arms, if only against the Bolsheviks. And his New Year's greetings are worth something, "you must fight the" seseseer "as long as there are forces ready to support them. And already Hitler and Mussolini have come to power, and have already declared that how much. Actually, the last of this pi ... ... showed themselves in all their glory in the GREAT PATRIOTIC.
      1. DrEng527
        DrEng527 2 September 2020 17: 14 New
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        Quote: Free Wind
        His words, even with the devil in his arms, if only against the Bolsheviks.

        Churchill said - if Satan goes against Hitler, I will find good words for him ... request
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 2 September 2020 08: 51 New
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    On September 6, Sapozhkov died, the remnants of his forces were scattered and captured.


    The author puts an end to the history of the Army of Pravda early)
    It did not end with the defeat of the Borisoglebsk cadets at the Khan's headquarters. The Sapozhkovsky brigade commander Serov continued to bandit for another two years - until August 1922! In the tradition of the time, Serov gave his army a rather florid name - "1st Ataman Division of the group of insurgent troops of the Will of the People." In general, Serov was the chief chieftain, under his command a dozen or so non-commissioned chieftains like Maslov, Pyatakov, etc. were raided.
    1. Sergey Oreshin
      Sergey Oreshin 2 September 2020 11: 29 New
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      The author just stupidly copies and pastes Wikipedia and a couple of popular brochures about the Civil War. Well, why wait any longer? Such are the authors today went ...
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 2 September 2020 11: 54 New
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        yes, you are right, such neglect is upsetting.
    2. DrEng527
      DrEng527 2 September 2020 17: 15 New
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      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      brigade commander Serov continued to bandit for two more years

      the usual practice of red commanders is that Mishka Yaponchik, that Kotovsky ... bully
  • iva12936
    iva12936 2 September 2020 11: 14 New
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    In 1920 Mironov Philip Kuzmich commanded the 2nd cavalry;
    1. Sergey Oreshin
      Sergey Oreshin 2 September 2020 11: 28 New
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      And the reason is simple. For modern "whites" he is an enemy and they will not promote him. But for the modern “red” he is also not his own (they themselves spanked him in the 21st). He is not his own either for modern liberals (because he fought for the Soviets), or for anarchists (because he fought for the Bolsheviks).
      In general, tragic loneliness really is. As in that song by Igor Talkov
  • kostik1301
    kostik1301 2 September 2020 16: 00 New
    +2
    I come to the conclusion (this is my personal-IN this shit, working out the envelope .................................... .................. not at all reflecting the opinion of the majority .......................... .... ONE CONTINUOUS ORDER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
  • BAI
    BAI 2 September 2020 17: 20 New
    +2
    Gorodovikov's 2nd Cavalry Army was to strike from the eastern flank, from the Aleksandrovsk region to Melitopol.

    About these events here, it is somehow more interesting described:
    1. Avior
      Avior 2 September 2020 19: 12 New
      +1
      With checkers on an armored train-
      Poles were not the first to come up with.
      ... The red cavalrymen were already galloping along the embankment. Tsymbalenko was the first to fly along the armored cars. He knocked the hilt of a checker on the steel walls, shouted in a hoarse voice:

      - For iron grabbed, white rats! Get out!

      The soldiers fired revolvers into the observation holes, poked their blades there.

      Chapter "Red sabers".
      http://militera.lib.ru/prose/russian/zharikov_lm/index.html
    2. BAI
      BAI 3 September 2020 09: 34 New
      0
      Pros from those who read the book?
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 2 September 2020 20: 59 New
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    The provinces are engulfed in uprisings, in the north - the Yankees, in the east - the Japanese, in Central Asia - the Basmachi, in the west - the White Poles, in the south - Wrangel, in the country there is famine, the Spanish woman and chaos. How can you defeat all this? Who is the genius who did this? belay
    1. Sergey Oreshin
      Sergey Oreshin 2 September 2020 22: 38 New
      -1
      The Bolsheviks had more material and other resources (they controlled the most developed Central Industrial provinces and both capitals + the main reserves of the tsarist army + a considerable number of military experts), as well as a centralized command of the army and the economy, which allowed the Reds to maneuver and transfer forces from one threatening direction to another. And beat the enemies in turn.
      By the way, Wrangel writes well about this in his memoirs: the Reds were not afraid to concentrate the best and most efficient forces on one front against the strongest enemy, sacrificing territories on other fronts. And having defeated the strongest enemy, they immediately began to transfer resources to another front, against the second most important enemy, etc.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 3 September 2020 19: 05 New
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        So who is the author of the Civic victory? I asked about it.
        1. Sergey Oreshin
          Sergey Oreshin 4 September 2020 15: 52 New
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          It is difficult to single out one "author of victory". I would assign a decisive role in the political plan to Lenin, and in the military one to the former Major General of the Imperial Army Pavel Pavlovich Lebedev, the chief of the Field Headquarters of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic. It was under his leadership that the main operations of the Red Army were developed during the decisive period of the Civil War.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 4 September 2020 19: 09 New
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            Quote: Sergey Oreshin
            It is difficult to single out one "author of victory". I would assign a decisive role in the political plan to Lenin, and in the military one to the former Major General of the Imperial Army Pavel Pavlovich Lebedev, the chief of the Field Headquarters of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic. It was under his leadership that the main operations of the Red Army were developed during the decisive period of the Civil War.

            Well, there was no "Imperial Army" in Russia, it seems. This is so, for the sake of form laughing But thanks for Ilyich - few people remember his role in preserving the "Russian lands" drinks
            1. Sergey Oreshin
              Sergey Oreshin 4 September 2020 19: 43 New
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              Russian Imperial Army, of course. This was the name of the ground forces of the Russian Empire
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 5 September 2020 19: 33 New
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                Quote: Sergey Oreshin
                Russian Imperial Army, of course. This was the name of the ground forces of the Russian Empire

                Well, that's probably more accurate drinks
  • Sergey Oreshin
    Sergey Oreshin 2 September 2020 22: 32 New
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    Quote: Free Wind
    whatever he writes there

    He wrote in 11 languages ​​(!!). 400 scientific works, some of which have not yet lost their scientific significance among historians and ethnologists.
    Sorry, but how many languages ​​do you know and how many monographs and articles do you have? And who after that "barmaley"?
  • Sugar Honeyovich
    Sugar Honeyovich 4 September 2020 08: 10 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    In 1991, the power of the Bolsheviks collapsed instantly - with complete indifference of all

    And in 1995-96 they received the majority of votes in the elections hi
    1. Sergey Oreshin
      Sergey Oreshin 4 September 2020 15: 54 New
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      But since instead of Lenin, the party was headed by Zyuganov, then there was no sense from this, "grandfather Gena" stupidly merged his victory, preferring a comfortable and most importantly safe life as "forever second"
      1. Sugar Honeyovich
        Sugar Honeyovich 5 September 2020 18: 12 New
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        That's it.
  • Sergey Oreshin
    Sergey Oreshin 7 September 2020 09: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: mat-vey
    in the article about the Turkmen units, the discussion of the agrarian reform is inappropriate?

    But here I disagree, because the author in his article directly opposed the "decayed" Russian units and the Tekinsky Cavalry Regiment, which had preserved its combat effectiveness, but did not analyze what was the reason for this difference. IMHO, the agrarian question here played an important role!
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 7 September 2020 16: 01 New
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      Quote: Sergey Oreshin
      But here I disagree,

      Well, who disagrees with you ... Or what again - "There are two opinions: one is mine, another is stupid."