Rostec named the likely brand of the Russian sixth generation fighter

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Rostec named the likely brand of the Russian sixth generation fighter

The Russian sixth generation fighter will probably be created under the joint brand of the MiG and Sukhoi companies. This was stated in an interview with RBC by the industrial director of the aviation complex of Rostec Anatoly Serdyukov.

Answering the question under which brand the sixth generation fighter will be created, Serdyukov noted that the creation of a new aircraft is currently under discussion, there are no specific details yet. However, it is possible that the aircraft could be created under a joint brand.



Perhaps it will be so - a fighter produced by MiG - Sukhoi. But while everything is under discussion, it is too early to talk about the details.

- said Serdyukov.

Earlier, the general director of the MiG and Sukhoi companies Ilya Tarasenko said that the companies would jointly create a sixth generation fighter.

Our competitors are American and European aircraft manufacturers. And to maintain a confident leadership in the industry, we need to consolidate the best competencies that exist today in the MiG and Sukhoi companies and create new sixth generation aircraft. Uniting potentials within the framework of common tasks and common goals is a colossal opportunity to make a major leap forward. Foreign companies no longer have such opportunities

- he said in mid-July this year.

Note that the creation of a sixth generation fighter is not a matter of the near future; its creation may take more than a dozen years. Under what brand the aircraft will be released in the final form - it does not matter, the main thing is that it was created.
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    1. +5
      1 September 2020 10: 26
      "Perhaps will be created" are the main words.
      1. +37
        1 September 2020 10: 52
        Quote: Pessimist22
        "Perhaps will be created" are the main words.

        Anatoly Serdyukov, it seems to me, is the main word here, with all the ensuing consequences.
        1. +10
          1 September 2020 11: 48
          Advertising and branded merchandise departments in the company work better than the design department.
          The advertising campaign is ready and already requires immediate funding. And idlers - designers play the fool and drink vodka during working hours.
          We need to expand efficiently working departments by increasing the salaries of their heads.
          And to cut badly working designers. Leave one of the three, increasing his salary from 12 to 15 thousand.
          1. +15
            1 September 2020 12: 23
            Quote: Pereira
            Advertising and branded merchandise departments in the company work better than the design department.

            You are absolutely right, the departments of advertising and branded souvenirs should be expanded, salaries increased, and design departments should be reduced as unnecessary. All enemies will then be afraid of us.
            1. +14
              1 September 2020 15: 00
              Rostec named a probable brand

              Colleague hi There is a typo in the article. Something, but in "Raspiltech" only frank delirium learned to carry. Here is the main brand of "smerdyukovschina". Remove the "extra" letter - and everything will fall into place.
              1. +17
                1 September 2020 15: 21
                Quote: lexus
                Colleague hi There is a typo in the article. Something, but in "Raspiltekh" they only learned to carry outright nonsense. Here is the main brand of "smerdyukovschina". Remove the "extra" letter - and everything will fall into place.

                Hello Kamrad. How tired of all this hurray-patriotic nonsense. Everywhere you spit, everywhere there are some victorious reports, and if you look closely, you can see with the naked eye that we are on the verge of a "big nix". I'm afraid that very soon the Khabarovsk protests will seem like children's toys to us.
                1. 0
                  1 September 2020 18: 02
                  Rosgvardia is ready for this nix.
                  1. +17
                    1 September 2020 18: 10
                    Quote: Pereira
                    Rosgvardia is ready for this nix.

                    Everything does not depend on the National Guard or some other security structure. The tsar, in February 1917, had no one to rely on, although the police were not bad at that time.
                  2. 0
                    1 September 2020 22: 52
                    In the same way, how will the people in Belarus be bludgeoned for the benefit of the authorities and those involved?
                  3. -3
                    3 September 2020 03: 30
                    In retirement, I have a pension ... ... I will stand up for the PEOPLE ... The actions of the supposedly guardsmen are known, but the counteraction to them, they are forgotten ...
              2. +1
                7 September 2020 11: 23
                We found someone to appoint as an industrial director (what kind of position is this? - a communications specialist, that is, did you decide?). I am afraid that it will drain ... "valuable" information, which is not in vain.
          2. +1
            1 September 2020 22: 48
            Quote: Pereira
            Leave one of the three, increasing his salary from 12 to 15 thousand.

            Enough and 14. Otherwise, they will be spoiled. Russian patriots must work for the idea.
        2. -6
          1 September 2020 12: 11
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: Pessimist22
          "Perhaps will be created" are the main words.

          Anatoly Serdyukov, it seems to me, is the main word here, with all the ensuing consequences.

          This one doesn't understand how important competition is ...
        3. -2
          2 September 2020 09: 03
          For anyone else, Rogozin should be involved, with his outstanding achievements in Rosskosmos.
          Then you can immediately talk about the 7th generation.
      2. +5
        1 September 2020 12: 29
        As long as Russia exists, mankind is waging wars, and lift is used for flights, aircraft of new generations will continue to appear.
        So the appearance of a 6th generation fighter in our country is a matter of time, appearance and capabilities.
      3. 0
        1 September 2020 15: 47
        Quote: Pessimist22
        "Perhaps will be created" are the main words.

        ===========
        "...The Russian sixth generation fighter will probably be created under the joint brand of the MiG and Sukhoi companies..."
        ----------
        And it will be called "MiS" or "Sum" ???? lol
        1. +3
          4 September 2020 09: 50
          Quote: venik
          And it will be called "MiS" or "Sum" ????

          SuiMi!
    2. +7
      1 September 2020 10: 26
      First you need to create, and then you can think about brands! What kind of fashion has gone across all areas? Business for a penny, noise for a gold piece. And they plan everything, they plan, they promise everything, so we will do it. Previously, they did it in silence and a lot, and the result was still.
      1. +2
        1 September 2020 10: 29
        Quote: Captive
        Answering the questionUnder which brand the sixth generation fighter will be created, Serdyukov noted that the creation of a new aircraft is currently under discussion, there are no specific details yet.

        Serdyukov was asked a question, he answered it. What are you nervous about?
        1. Aag
          -1
          1 September 2020 18: 17
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          Quote: Captive
          Answering the questionUnder which brand the sixth generation fighter will be created, Serdyukov noted that the creation of a new aircraft is currently under discussion, there are no specific details yet.

          Serdyukov was asked a question, he answered it. What are you nervous about?

          I'm nervous because the question was asked to Serdyukov, and because the prosecutor's office has run out of questions for him. am
          1. -1
            3 September 2020 02: 06
            Do you have any materials on the basis of which you can again initiate a criminal case? So why are you silent and hiding them? Here is where the zrada nestles! laughing laughing
            1. Aag
              0
              3 September 2020 05: 41
              Quote: garik77
              Do you have any materials on the basis of which you can again initiate a criminal case? So why are you silent and hiding them? Here is where the zrada nestles! laughing laughing

              Do you think the old materials are not enough?
              Or "all friends, enemies of the law"?
      2. +6
        1 September 2020 10: 32
        Quote: Captive
        What kind of fashion has gone across all areas? Deals for a penny, noise for a gold piece.

        Well, a lot of commentators said that our producers do not know how to PR as effectively as Western ones, and lose in PR. Here, manufacturers have listened to the recommendations and wishes.
    3. 0
      1 September 2020 10: 28
      the name is the main thing. as you name the ship so it will float above the waves ... and pieces of paper of the Burocrats. where is more likely to bury yourself and not reach the series?
      1. -2
        1 September 2020 11: 06
        "Sukhumi"? Nothing else comes to my mind from letters!)) laughing
        This is, of course, a joke of humor. And in fact, I join the commentators who consider branding in this case premature.
        1. +2
          1 September 2020 14: 02
          "MiGukh", "SumiG", "MiSu", "SMiG", "Mukh" .... laughing
          1. +1
            1 September 2020 15: 38
            MiSu 6 is the most appropriate name.
        2. +6
          1 September 2020 15: 16
          Colleague hi
          There were two wonderful world-class design bureaus. And there will be only one "GUMUS", because the current "naughty monkeys, donkeys, goats, and clubfoot bears" (C) are not capable of producing anything else. They will mask their "products" with "nano-packages".
      2. -1
        1 September 2020 12: 04
        Quote: antivirus
        the name is the main thing

        "Dry Moment"? good
        1. 0
          1 September 2020 15: 18
          already from the beginning of 00, it was dried by Pagosyan.
          kimono will be introduced into the army sooner than the MiG will be closed
    4. +9
      1 September 2020 10: 29
      Bedtime stories for hurray
      patriots
      1. +11
        1 September 2020 10: 37
        Su-57s are not yet in the army, but these have already begun to dream of MiGs ...
      2. -3
        1 September 2020 11: 15
        Quote: Runoway
        Bedtime stories for hurray patriots

        What kind of fairy tales? That the creation of the future aircraft is under discussion?
        Or maybe fairy tales are that there are no specific details yet?

        "I go nuts, dear edition! .."
        They spread a shield storm from scratch.
        1. +3
          1 September 2020 13: 46
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          Quote: Runoway
          Bedtime stories for hurray patriots

          What kind of fairy tales? That the creation of the future aircraft is under discussion?
          Or maybe fairy tales are that there are no specific details yet?

          "I go nuts, dear edition! .."
          They spread a shield storm from scratch.

          Everything is so simple, they take the news from the finger, change the terms, and the "sensation" comes up. Here are some headlines specially gifted by the media
          Anatoly Serdyukov will soon shake Russia with a new fighter
    5. -3
      1 September 2020 10: 32
      Perhaps it will be so - a fighter produced by MiG - Sukhoi.
      Or perhaps - "MiG" - "Sukhoi-Semisweet-name of the nullified-having no analogs-blah-blah-blah-m1m2m3m54674". You will at least decide on the concept, otherwise you have already come up with so many projects that storytellers are resting ...
      1. +1
        1 September 2020 10: 50
        And this is a general tendency in Russia now to create powerful, necessarily monetary, blue-eyed places. In the 90s, I worked in companies with only one director, who was also the owner of the company. Now, in the company where I now work directors like dogs are not cut: chief, executive, commercial, first, economic, and directors "for personnel", "for communications", "for supply", etc. None of them there is no time at the workplace, all for them "deputies" and decide and do. This is the answer to the post below, put it in the wrong place.
    6. +2
      1 September 2020 10: 34
      This was stated in an interview with RBC by the industrial director of the aviation complex of Rostec - Anatoly Serdyukov.

      Strange positions appear in our state - specialized for individuals.
      "Industrial director" - what kind of animal is this?
      The same as - "Deputy President in the Security Council" (Medvedev). Previously, there was no such position.No.
    7. +2
      1 September 2020 10: 36
      To the company "MiG" + "Sukhoi" add "Yak" + "Tupolev" + "VAZ" for a full set of "best competencies" headed by Serdyukov.
      1. +1
        1 September 2020 13: 01
        Quote: atos_kin
        To the company "MiG" + "Sukhoi" add "Yak" + "Tupolev" + "VAZ" for a full set of "best competencies" headed by Serdyukov.

        And why was Uralvagonzavod ignored? He is really ahead of the rest of the world in the production of advanced technology!
        1. -1
          1 September 2020 16: 01
          Quote: Sergey Medvedev

          And why was Uralvagonzavod ignored? He is really ahead of the rest of the world in the production of advanced technology!

          That is why I did not include it, but defective managers will reach UVZ, the amendments will not let you lie.
      2. 0
        1 September 2020 16: 18
        Exactly, there are also "Two Balls", "Red October" and "Gelendzhik Winery". It should be a hundred times more promising than competitors.
    8. -3
      1 September 2020 10: 37
      The trend is set ..... UAVs in conjunction with 5th generation somolets and AWACS. UAV slave and stealth options for different functions. Reconnaissance, refueling, control center, drums.
    9. -1
      1 September 2020 10: 38
      Our competitors are American and European aircraft manufacturers. AND to maintain strong leadership in the industry we need to consolidate the best competencies that exist today in the MiG and Sukhoi companies and create new sixth generation aircraft

      And then I thought - to maintain the falling pants and in order not to lag behind completely. The first 5th generation fighter appeared 20 years ago. As we did not have a single Su-57 in the troops, there is still none. Maybe take care of this? - She, it is better to "maintain a confident leadership" we will project 6th generation aircraft at once! Well, at least not a death star ... something is now divorced in the state corporations of Rogozin's followers ...
      1. 0
        1 September 2020 12: 41
        Quote: Freemason
        The first 5th generation fighter appeared 20 years ago. As we did not have a single Su-57 in the troops, there is still no one. Maybe you will attend to this?

        It doesn't seem to you that trying to catch up with the striped ones in the 5th generation is useless - you need to make a knight's move and go straight to the 6th. Moreover, no one really knows what an aircraft of this very 6th generation should be, and this is a plus: whoever is the first to create and designate his aircraft with a new generation will become the leader and will set the standards.
        1. 0
          1 September 2020 14: 07
          Call of Duty Infinity War had aerospace planes (or spaceplanes). Here they were quite pulling on the sixth
        2. 0
          1 September 2020 22: 56
          Then immediately on the 7th, and better on the 8th. So that immediately check and checkmate to the Americans.
    10. +4
      1 September 2020 10: 39
      Rostec named the likely brand of the Russian sixth generation fighter
      Handsome men! Profanity with imitation on the march! lol
    11. +1
      1 September 2020 10: 43
      Are you planning a cabin for Vasilyeva on the plane? If Th I want to be the pilot of this plane!
      1. +4
        1 September 2020 11: 37
        Quote from DiViZ
        Are you planning a cabin for Vasilyeva on the plane? If Th I want to be the pilot of this plane!

        Vasilyeva is no longer a cake!

        And in thirty years, when perhaps the prototype of the 6th generation fighter takes off, there won't even be mold ...
    12. -1
      1 September 2020 10: 44
      And perhaps, under the strict guidance, no moment will remain dry by this time.
    13. +1
      1 September 2020 10: 50
      Foreign companies do not have such opportunities, but what are they? When the need arises, they will create any alliance.
      1. 0
        1 September 2020 11: 10
        Quote: Free Wind
        When the need arises, they will create any alliance.

        Are you talking about the Franco-Europeans who never shmagli agree on the creation of a 4th generation fighter ...?
        1. +3
          1 September 2020 11: 40
          What then is the Eurofighter Typhoon?
          Not a Euro-fighter?

          No francs, but they did the same.
          How Tornado and others did it ...
          1. -1
            1 September 2020 11: 42
            Once again, the French and Europeans will not agree on the creation of a single Euro-fighter. The Franks made the Rafale, the Europeans made the Typhoon. At the same time, not everyone in Europe began to buy it, some continued to buy aircraft made in the USA.
            1. +2
              1 September 2020 11: 49
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Once again, the French and Europeans will not agree on the creation of a single Euro-fighter. The Franks made the Rafale, the Europeans made the Typhoon. At the same time, not everyone in Europe began to buy it, some continued to buy aircraft made in the USA.

              Well, you just have to remember that situation

              The Euro-fighter was always planned by only 4 NATO countries.
              Angles, Franks, Germans, Italians.
              That's all.
              The rest were always hesitant.
              Moreover, the Dutch and the Belgians always went with American weapons and did not even participate in the negotiations on the Euro-fighter.
              Spaniards, Portuguese? It would be cheaper.

              The Franks wanted to dominate, the Germans and the Angles, the Italians did not agree with this position.
              So they didn't agree.
              Moreover, Panavia's experience was not bad, so it was repeated on Typhoon. Without any francs ...
    14. 0
      1 September 2020 10: 53
      another brand
      ===
      and "trademark" ?! well you can't use
    15. -3
      1 September 2020 10: 57
      I suspected that the abbreviation would be "Flies" ... It's good that not vice versa.
      1. -3
        1 September 2020 11: 11
        There will be MiSuSer - Serdyukov will be added to the name
    16. 0
      1 September 2020 11: 09
      At the stage of discussion, is it being discussed through the prism of glasses?
      1. -1
        1 September 2020 11: 48
        What are the glasses? Wouldn't switch from coke to gerik
    17. +1
      1 September 2020 11: 10
      Is it a fundamental question under which brand to create a 6th generation aircraft? What nonsense
      1. 0
        1 September 2020 22: 59
        Of course, principled. See the example of Roscosmos.
        1. 0
          2 September 2020 08: 35
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Of course, principled. See the example of Roscosmos.

          It was this dragging of the blanket that led to the fact that in space we are now lagging behind the Americans
          1. -1
            2 September 2020 08: 45
            Something else has led to the fact that we are lagging behind in space.
    18. +1
      1 September 2020 11: 11
      This was stated in an interview with RBC by the industrial director of the aviation complex of Rostec Anatoly Serdyukov.
      Vague doubts overwhelm me, since Vasilyeva was in prison, it means she deceived her boss (something that was not proven in the share), and if so, his trusting subordinates can again deceive and present the development of the USSR as their know-how. Maybe it's time for the leaders who have nakosyachivshih to remove from the leadership? Otherwise, we will never get out of the hole.
      1. Aag
        0
        1 September 2020 18: 31
        Quote: Alex66
        This was stated in an interview with RBC by the industrial director of the aviation complex of Rostec Anatoly Serdyukov.
        Vague doubts overwhelm me, since Vasilyeva was in prison, it means she deceived her boss (something that was not proven in the share), and if so, his trusting subordinates can again deceive and present the development of the USSR as their know-how. Maybe it's time for the leaders who have nakosyachivshih to remove from the leadership? Otherwise, we will never get out of the hole.

        What an innovator you are!)) I don't even know who will stay ... By the way, a topic for discussion! Whom, where will we leave?
    19. +3
      1 September 2020 11: 12
      Without touching Serdyukov - I myself, to put it mildly, do not dislike him. The development of new types of weapons should go on without stopping - they created a su-57, immediately take on a more advanced one ... Well, do not sit and rest on our laurels. An engine of the second stage will appear to allocate the n-th amount of resources for revision, and the main direction should be directed to the future. This is the only way if we want to be competitive. So let them make sketches, layouts and don't know what else is there.
      1. +2
        1 September 2020 11: 43
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        Without touching Serdyukov - I myself, to put it mildly, do not dislike him. The development of new types of weapons should go on without stopping - they created a su-57, immediately take on a more advanced one ... Well, do not sit and rest on our laurels. An engine of the second stage will appear to allocate the n-th amount of resources for revision, and the main direction should be directed to the future. This is the only way if we want to be competitive. So let them make sketches, layouts and don't know what else is there.

        To take on something more perfect, you need to have a huge store of knowledge and experience in technical production, operation, maintenance, tactics of application, efficiency, and many other indicators.
        And this is not and will not be for another twenty years.
        This is how much time is needed to consolidate all the required knowledge.
        1. 0
          1 September 2020 17: 58
          And how do you accumulate knowledge, etc. etc? Stumbling in place? Only the desire to do something more perfect will give you what you need. Yes, by stumbling, making mistakes and correcting them, we get what we are looking for. How do you want? So it usually happens ... Maybe even in 20 years (but I would not be so categorical).
    20. +1
      1 September 2020 11: 19
      Foreign companies no longer have such opportunities

      Yes ...
    21. -1
      1 September 2020 11: 32
      You are the fifth massively start releasing and then you can dream about the sixth, Serdyukov needs to be shaken off by someone
    22. 0
      1 September 2020 11: 43
      Most likely there will be a joint design bureau that will work on various modifications (light / heavy, manned / drone) with a high degree of unification. Earlier it was said that there will be one engine for all. And each of them will be engaged in production with his own modification under his own name, some light front-line, some heavy.
    23. -1
      1 September 2020 11: 46
      "Migosuh" or "Sukhomig"?
      1. 0
        1 September 2020 12: 44
        Quote: Angelo Provolone
        "Migosuh" or "Sukhomig"?

        SuG
        1. +1
          1 September 2020 13: 08
          Quote: Narak-zempo
          SuG

          Then it's better to goose. Really a bird. Besides, amphibious. Has the ability to use the entire World Ocean as a jump airfield!
    24. 0
      1 September 2020 12: 09
      and what will it be? Mihoy-01? and so for a start it would be necessary to bring the Su-57 to mind
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    26. 1_2
      0
      1 September 2020 12: 38
      The 6th generation may well be a su-57, for this you need to install ROFAR, AI, and a fiber-optic defense laser to burn incoming missiles
    27. 0
      1 September 2020 12: 48
      Under what brand the aircraft will be released in the final form - it does not matter, the main thing is that it was created.

      Exactly! And the main thing is not to fight in the process for supremacy and control of finances ...
    28. +2
      1 September 2020 14: 03
      What is there, the fifth generation is already completely on the wing and in combat units? It's time to think about the sixth
    29. +1
      1 September 2020 14: 59
      Su 57 has not yet been launched into series, and they are already dreaming of some new project. Yes, and Pan Serdyukov is doing this, so we are talking about "drinking" the budget, do not dream ...
    30. 0
      1 September 2020 16: 11
      Perhaps they will immediately swing at the 7th generation. It is clear that no one will sit idly by. It’s only good if real results appear that way by 2040.
    31. 0
      1 September 2020 16: 53
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      How tired of all this hurray-patriotic nonsense.

      At the moment, the company led by Serdyukov already owes 530 billion rubles. What is the sixth generation, if the fifth fighter is not known when it will enter service?
      To bankrupt such a company - where will people go, many thousands of work collectives? It's not their fault that the bosses have wide pockets. You don't have to carry on, you have to do business, if you supply half a hundred planes, then you plan. But I think the debts will already be over a trillion.
    32. 0
      1 September 2020 17: 11
      Quote: venik
      Quote: Pessimist22
      "Perhaps will be created" are the main words.

      ===========
      "...The Russian sixth generation fighter will probably be created under the joint brand of the MiG and Sukhoi companies..."
      ----------
      And it will be called "MiS" or "Sum" ???? lol

      No - MiSu!
    33. 0
      1 September 2020 20: 19
      Here are some not funny comments and an article. Good will not come of this merger ....!
    34. 0
      1 September 2020 21: 27
      what kind of uninteresting bored comments ... and this is a military site ... or already a "military" one?
    35. +1
      2 September 2020 07: 39
      What are the requirements for the sixth generation?
    36. 0
      2 September 2020 08: 32
      The namesake thought. And it turns out that this is the one who should cut the forest. And here they saw. No luck in sight!
    37. 0
      2 September 2020 09: 16
      Nothing will come of it. That is, in general. Judging by the composition of the speakers, aviation in Russia has finally stopped its course. Since you can't throw on Soviet developments, THESE are absolutely hopeless. However, a couple of sovereign trillions will be spent confidently.
    38. +1
      2 September 2020 19: 19
      What is it like?! "SumiG" or "MiGSu" ???
      1. +1
        4 September 2020 11: 02
        There is a remedy for migraine (a terrible headache) called sumig.
        Sumig - apt name for the sixth generation machine, contrary to the "migraine" from Western counterparts?
    39. 0
      3 September 2020 20: 41
      Rostec named the likely brand of the Russian sixth generation fighter

      MiG-Sukhoi-Semisweet
    40. +1
      4 September 2020 09: 24
      The message about the beginning of the "development" of budgetary funds .. "Perhaps it will be" ... Well, after all, it might be, or maybe not .. But the money will be mastered ...
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    42. 0
      4 September 2020 12: 28
      It seems to me that while Serdyukov is taxiing there, there will be no plane. In general, the possibilities of its creation will be lost, because he is now engaged in optimization as usual.

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