"We are forming a conscious and responsible Belarusian society": the opposition of the Republic of Belarus announced the creation of a new party

Representatives of the Belarusian opposition made a statement regarding the unification of their forces. One might think that before the elections the idea of ​​unification did not enter their heads for some reason, but now the unification process has been proclaimed. But, as it turns out, the decision was made, in fact, back in June.

The then contender for the presidential post of the Republic of Bashkortostan Viktor Babariko made a video message in which he stated the need to create a new Belarusian political force. The video message was allegedly recorded prior to Babariko's arrest.
According to him, "the time has come to announce the continuation of the struggle, but with the presence of an organizational form that unites supporters."

According to Babariko, who was arrested before the elections, the main goal of creating a unifying opposition platform is to carry out constitutional reform in the Republic of Belarus.

Meanwhile, the head of Viktor Babariko’s campaign headquarters, Maria Kolesnikova, announced that the united party would be called Together. According to Kolesnikova, the Belarusian public has done more in 3 months than in 26 years.

Kolesnikova:

We are forming a new, conscientious and responsible Belarusian society.

Does this mean that until now the Belarusian society was irresponsible and irresponsible?

Maria Kolesnikova:

In the near future we will submit documents for registration (of the party). Together we will win!

Comments

[Deniska999]

At least Lukashenko himself began to understand that the country would not be able to exist within the framework of a system tied to one person.

[Finches]

You don't even need to be a tough physiognomist and a fan of Lombroso's theory in order to clearly determine from one photo of Babariko that he sold himself long ago, and is now actively selling Belarus ... Polish euros and American dollars, if you look closely, appear right through the skin! Only very dark or very stupid people can believe in the sincerity of his words!

[Pravodel]

Lombroso's theory is correct. Add to this what was stolen from the state and its citizens, and the type immediately becomes clear.

[Finches]

For me, everything is clear anyway - the opposition bought by the West is playing a pro-American scenario of the collapse of Russia's ally under delusional slogans about democracy and denigration of Lukashenka - this is not about justice or the welfare of the Belarusian people - the people have not resisted anyone, but the people themselves do not understand this and how rams will be introduced to such rascals as this Babariko!

I will soon write a poster - "Uncle Vova, bring Russian tanks into Belarus - otherwise we will lose another brotherly people and tomorrow American tanks will be standing near Vitebsk!" and go out under the walls of the Kremlin!

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Finches

the good of the Belarusian people

Have you watched the cutlet fry interview? She openly stated there that "if Seryozha (husband) had $ 900 thousand, he would never have stood up for the well-being of some kind of people"!
This is a complete debunking of their goals and a fiasco as politicians.

[Insurgent]

Quote: adam khomich

This is a complete debunking of their goals and a fiasco as politicians.

Not for the West ... They will simply close their eyes to it.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

A sweet couple: a fat, fat tail, cunning ram and a bright girl from the German LGBT.

But seriously, the puppets in the paws of the puppeteers - Babariko (the bastard finally uncovered) and Kolesnikov - are twitching with might and main, trying to ignite a fire and throw Belarusians into it against Russia, falsely claiming that they are not at all against and for dialogue. Their masters act primitively, impudently and straight ahead. Only suckers are becoming less and less, and militants are being detained at the border ...

[mole]

I will soon write a poster - "Uncle Vova, bring Russian tanks into Belarus - otherwise we will lose another brotherly people and tomorrow American tanks will be standing near Vitebsk!" and go out under the walls of the Kremlin!

Maybe it's better "Uncle Vova finish with your corrupt friends - once again we will lose our power!" ?

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: The Truth

the type immediately becomes clear.

Reincarnation of Birch 2.0.

[voyaka uh]

"The theory of Lombroso - correctly suggests" ////
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Does Lombroso's theory tell you anything here?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: voyaka uh

Does Lombroso's theory tell you anything here?

And here is an exception to the rule.

[Finches]

The guard prompts! And it performs the corresponding functions - and what's the problem?

[Insurgent]

Quote: voyaka uh

Does Lombroso's theory tell you anything here?

A “well-captured moment” of burst-time shooting?
So you can "catch" anyone and everyone with a grimace and in a comical perspective

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"Official photo" of General of the Army V.V. Zolotov

[Quadro]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: voyaka uh

Does Lombroso's theory tell you anything here?

A “well-captured moment” of burst-time shooting?
So you can "catch" anyone and everyone with a grimace and in a comical perspective

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"Official photo" of General of the Army V.V. Zolotov

Better let our Israeli comrade, a soldier, tell me how Netanyahu rules over them when the trial goes on.

[halpat]

..Polish euros and American dollars ...

In Poland, zlotys, not euros.
And Baba Rico does not inspire any confidence, yes

[Finches]

I meant that Poland is an intermediary in the transfer of cash!

[Grits]

Quote: Halpat

In Poland, zlotys, not euros.

And when did Poland leave the EU?

[hydrox]

Do not find fault: apparently, the boy has already created the Pshekistan Coordination Committee for the transfer of power, and the State Bank was in a hurry to take it - and there is no money, only debts, but numismatics ...

[cat Rusich]

Alexander, Poland was NOT part of the "euro zone".

[Grits]

Quote: cat Rusich

Alexander, Poland was NOT part of the "euro zone".

Pancake. This is news to me. If so, then I apologize for my mockery.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Finches

from one photo of Babariko, it is clear that he sold himself long ago, and now he is actively selling Belarus ... Polish euros and American dollars

The currency was wrong. Russian rubles are visible there. He is clearly a creature of the Kremlin and the future president of Belarus. The weekend finally made a similar agreement with Luka and launched the project.

[Finches]

Who agreed with whom?

[solzh]

Quote: Grazdanin

Russian rubles are visible there

Even close our rubles are not visible there. But the euro and the dollar are very clearly visible.

Quote: Grazdanin

He is clearly a creature of the Kremlin and the future president of Belarus.

It's not serious at all ...

[tandem]

maybe Babariko sold out, only for rubles. For 20 years he headed a Russian bank and worked for the West. Not too tricky?

[Finches]

So what? Poroshenko even had a business in Russia - but he sold something far from Russia!

[cat Rusich]

Eugene, no matter where your factories and ships are located and operate - it is important where you STORE the proceeds, through which banks you carry out the sale and purchase, where you keep the "egg-box for a rainy day" ...

[cat Rusich]

Eugene, the currency of Poland is ZLOTY, Poland has NOT entered the "euro zone" ... Babariko is sold for Polish ZLOTY, and the euro is sent to him from Germany or Brussels.

[Finches]

These are, in fact, nuances - for what currency a person sold his Motherland - francs, zlotys, rubles ... He is still a traitor! So he has it written on his forehead!

[antivirus]

a lot of interesting things in the world --- in 98 he had an agreement with Amkodor - a guest came, in the evening for a cup: "Unfortunately Lukashenko turned out to be a trainee, and the dem opposition quarreled." And that was right after the first elections.

The united people will not share the money again.

and Babarik will have to turn off the gas ... and Kolesnikova's oil to feed 9 million for personal grants studied

[tandem]

You are wrong. We have to wait for what D. Vova will say to him at the meeting

[Vend]

Finally it came to the opposition that it was necessary to make changes in the country by means of the law. However, they realized it too late, none of them will be able to jump into the presidency of Belarus. They violated the law, a criminal case will be opened against them, and criminals will not sit in the presidential chair.

[hydrox]

Nicely noticed about criminality!

[Thrifty]

Well, yes, this belly in the photo has already "won" a lot of products !!! ..

[abrakadabre]

Quote: Thrifty

Well, yes, this belly in the photo has already "won" a lot of products !!!

This is how a professional trader in the Motherland looks like Check it out, Minister of Lithuania Linkevicius:

Are they cloned there?

[Thrifty]

abrakadabre-With one State Department, the bowls are fed!

[abrakadabre]

Quote: Thrifty

From one State Department, the bowls are fed!

The second, which is a human female, is very similar to Latynina. Exactly - attack of the clones.

[parusnik]

It is clear that they decided to combine registered and unregistered political opposition parties into one ...

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: parusnik

opposition parties in one ..

And when we see the creation in Belarus of a truly pro-Russian party with a strong leader, which would promote Russian interests, would fight against such a pro-Western opposition. I am sure there would be many people in Belarus who would support such a party.

[truck driver]

In principle, there can be no pro-Russian party, since Russia loses in attractiveness to Europe. What the 45+ generation understands is somehow uninteresting to young people. Luka understands this and the only way out for him is to disperse the crowd, just to hold out for one more term, but if he goes too far, then the Yanyk will have a new neighbor in Rostov ...

[stalki]

In principle, there can be no pro-Russian party, since Russia loses in attractiveness to Europe. What the 45+ generation understands is somehow uninteresting to young people. Luka understands this and the only way out for him is to disperse the crowd, just to hold out for one more term, but if he goes too far, then the Yanyk will have a new neighbor in Rostov ...

Yes, Europe is very attractive, especially for the Slavs, whom they spread rot all the time. Well, about Russophobia, and so the whole world knows. In Europe, there are attractive jobs, I agree, high-level plumbing, it will probably be interesting to repair and scrub And they also love to feed other people's mouths there, with crumbs from the table. The main thing is to fulfill all the requirements, to carry out social and pension reforms (that is, to reduce payments as much as possible), to join the ranks of the united ranks of NATO, buying their weapons, or, more precisely, buying used ones. And the most important thing is to forget your history completely.

[truck driver]

The main thing is to believe in this - in the Slavs in their spread rot by Europe, stay at home and feed the oligarchs, thieves, bribe-takers, work for a penny, resent the power on the couch. There is nothing to earn normal money in Europe, the main thing is to believe in your bright future, in your main friends - the army and navy with videoconferencing, to earn a penny pension and most importantly to believe that everything is fine with you / us, and in Europe only to wash the toilets, this is humiliation , and for a penny plowing for oligarchs is super patriotic!

[stalki]

The main thing is to believe in this - in the Slavs in their spread rot by Europe, stay at home and feed the oligarchs, thieves, bribe-takers, work for a penny, resent the power on the couch. There is nothing to earn normal money in Europe, the main thing is to believe in your bright future, in your main friends - the army and navy with videoconferencing, to earn a penny pension and most importantly to believe that everything is fine with you / us, and in Europe only to wash the toilets, this is humiliation , and for a penny plowing for oligarchs is super patriotic!

What a wonderful Europe, it accepts everyone, loves everyone, feeds everyone. Human, fair, selfless. I never touched anyone, did not wish anyone harm, the standard of virtue and perfection, now everyone ran to bow and ask for hands, just a mother of the peoples of the world. And there is also a sister, rather run and hug her, she lives across the ocean and is also waiting for everyone, she has already been tired of waiting. The main thing is to always carry vaseline with you and smile. Happiness to you. They will solve all problems for you, at your expense, their own

PS And I only believe in our army, in our land, and our own people. Everything else, well, you understand in what place.

[truck driver]

And I don’t believe in my people, or in the army, or in my land. I believe in myself, in my hands and in my brains, and therefore I go to Europe and earn money for my family, for my children. And I do not believe in children's fairy tales and horror stories - how Europe spreads rot on the Slavs and gives them only to wash the toilet bowls, comfort yourself with this thought further. The main thing is to believe in the enemy and rejoice at the crumbs from the lordly table of your own oligarchs and blaze with righteous anger against the overseas bourgeoisie!

[stalki]

And I don’t believe in my people, or in the army, or in my land. I believe in myself, in my hands and in my brains, and therefore I go to Europe and earn money for my family, for my children. And I do not believe in children's fairy tales and horror stories - how Europe spreads rot on the Slavs and gives them only to wash the toilet bowls, comfort yourself with this thought further. The main thing is to believe in the enemy and rejoice at the crumbs from the lordly table of your own oligarchs and blaze with righteous anger against the overseas bourgeoisie!

Yes, I understand what you believe you don't have to voice it.

[Alex Nevs]

This is until they began to quietly and peacefully democratize you by means from under the wings of aircraft.

[Grits]

Quote: LKW Fahrer

And I don’t believe in my people, or in the army, or in my land. I believe in myself, in my hands and in my brains, and therefore I go to Europe and earn

It seems that the state in vain invested in your education and training. Preparing a guest worker for Europe. Thank you for the Motherland, a cut piece Worthless and unnecessary.

[hydrox]

Don't swear: the chunk is moldy - we don't need these either, all chickens will die from such chunks!

[truck driver]

The state that invested - rested in the Bose, to today's Ukraine I gave my duty as a soldier and learned for my own. And the fact that migrant workers are purposefully trained is almost an official policy, I have nothing to be ashamed of. I myself have to think about the future and the future of my children, and I don't see this future in Ukraine. And I don't see it in an alliance with Russia and Belarus either. I see in Europe, Canada, the USA - 42 years will be enough to plow in the hope of a bright future, while I have the strength to try to provide it for my children. And in Ukraine, let the young people in pink glasses raise the future or the believers.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: LKW Fahrer

I gave my duty as a soldier to today's Ukraine and learned for my own. And the fact that migrant workers are purposefully trained is almost an official policy, I have nothing to be ashamed of. I myself have to think about the future and the future of my children, and I don't see this future in Ukraine.

Understood ... Broke down ... Hold on, hold on anyway .. And love your homeland ..

[Dart]

Well, pralno-typically "I'll hide my hut, it's time to bring down!"

[Orkraider]

... And I do not believe in children's fairy tales and horror stories - how Europe spreads rot on the Slavs and gives them only to wash the toilet bowls, comfort yourself with this thought further.

Life is such a thing, sooner or later it writes out such tricks and shows such tales .... Do you want to believe in a dream and a fairy tale that you are welcomed in Europe with open arms and everything depends on the person and there is no patronage - believe. But nowhere is it manifested as brightly as in Europe - as long as you can plow - you are still considered and given to earn where there are vacancies, should you, God forbid, get sick or a European citizen covet your workplace in a crisis - you will wipe the floor and thrown out like a rag. And yes, they don't choose their homeland, I'm sorry that this happened with Ukraine, but it's time for the Slavs to learn a lesson in history - only together, separately - death

[Quadro]

Quote: LKW Fahrer

The main thing is to believe in this - in the Slavs in their spread rot by Europe, stay at home and feed the oligarchs, thieves, bribe-takers, work for a penny, resent the power on the couch. There is nothing to earn normal money in Europe, the main thing is to believe in your bright future, in your main friends - the army and navy with videoconferencing, to earn a penny pension and most importantly to believe that everything is fine with you / us, and in Europe only to wash the toilets, this is humiliation , and for a penny plowing for oligarchs is super patriotic!

It's not for you to write about the oligarchs to dill-fascists.

[DenZ]

Quote: LKW Fahrer

In principle, there can be no pro-Russian party, since Russia loses in attractiveness to Europe.

That is why it loses that there is no party. You are confusing cause and effect. What is there to attractiveness, is it enough to look at Tribals, what is the attraction there if their young people leave the country themselves?

[truck driver]

And our (Ukrainian) and Belarusian youth for some reason travels to the Baltics to work, probably because of their attractiveness or to hunchback at home for a penny and unwillingness to build a bright future in their countries, a bright future for oligarchs, thieves and scammers ?!

[stalki]

And our (Ukrainian) and Belarusian youth for some reason travels to the Baltics to work, probably because of their attractiveness or to hunchback at home for a penny and unwillingness to build a bright future in their countries, a bright future for oligarchs, thieves and scammers ?!

From weakness, your youth runs there, because they cannot decide anything on their own, even so they must decide themselves. Why build your own "home", there are no drawings, no space, no materials, and no one needs a house. The new free generation has grown up, called "I fly wherever I want."

[truck driver]

That is why the authorities of the clamoring oligarchs and thieves missed the moment when it was necessary to create the idea of ​​an attractive Russia with a high standard of living. Young people do not need high ideals, they need to feed their families. And if there is an opportunity to go to work with the opportunity to stay there, then the smartest and most able-bodied people will leave, in Ukraine, for sure, no one wants to hunch over for a new car, yacht, villa for oligarchs, etc.

[stalki]

That is why the authorities of the clamoring oligarchs and thieves missed the moment when it was necessary to create the idea of ​​an attractive Russia with a high standard of living. Young people do not need high ideals, they need to feed their families. And if there is an opportunity to go to work with the opportunity to stay there, then the smartest and most able-bodied people will leave, in Ukraine, for sure, no one wants to hunch over for a new car, yacht, villa for oligarchs, etc.

Do you still think that all the authorities should do?

[truck driver]

In Ukraine, no one thinks about this for at least 15 years, no one hopes for the government.
The conversation was about the pro-Russian orientation of Belarus, so I am sure that this orientation is a priori impossible, you missed your time, the last hope is for the generation 45, who still studied in Soviet times and remember the friendship of peoples.
Today's youth is very difficult to deceive with slogans like - in Europe the Slavs are spreading rot, they are preparing a stab in the back, the work of a plumber is to clean toilets, etc. etc.
Nowadays, people go there to work and do not worry, they see everything with their own eyes and the propaganda of your level no longer works.

[stalki]

In Ukraine, no one thinks about this for at least 15 years, no one hopes for the government.
The conversation was about the pro-Russian orientation of Belarus, so I am sure that this orientation is a priori impossible, you missed your time, the last hope is for the generation 45, who still studied in Soviet times and remember the friendship of peoples.
Today's youth is very difficult to deceive with slogans like - in Europe the Slavs are spreading rot, they are preparing a stab in the back, the work of a plumber is to clean toilets, etc. etc.
Nowadays, people go there to work and do not worry, they see everything with their own eyes and the propaganda of your level no longer works.

For some reason, it is easy to deceive with slogans that in Russia only the oligarchs rule, the Russians are evil, the country is a gas station, there are all thieves, everything is bad here and we are poor. And I am not engaged in propaganda, you are now free as the wind, the Nazis now feast on your ruins and make nonhumans out of the youth. Have you ever read Sukhomlinsky (Vasil Oleksandrovich Sukhomlinsky)? Read, such people are not born in a bad country and they cannot think like him in a bad country. And we are still the same. It's just that many have betrayed themselves and us. But we remained standing. So propaganda is inappropriate here, it is a reality and it is a reality on Mars.

[truck driver]

I have not read Sukhomlinsky, but thanks for the tip, I do. About Russia, I have enough to read the comments on the site, how good you are ... Honestly, I am interested in your news, but I am not interested in Russia as a country for life and an alliance with you. Regarding betrayal, then take courage and admit that the USSR destroyed the RSFSR itself in the first place and only after you did the parade of sovereignty begin.
And now it's too late, I'm already silent about the Crimea and Donbass, this is not forgiven. You are destined to stand, I thought we were your shoulder to rely on, but after the betrayal, each chose his own path, I chose the road to the west.

[stalki]

I have not read Sukhomlinsky, but thanks for the tip, I do. About Russia, I have enough to read the comments on the site, how good you are ... Honestly, I am interested in your news, but I am not interested in Russia as a country for life and an alliance with you. Regarding betrayal, then take courage and admit that the USSR destroyed the RSFSR itself in the first place and only after you did the parade of sovereignty begin.
And now it's too late, I'm already silent about the Crimea and Donbass, this is not forgiven. You are destined to stand, I thought we were your shoulder to rely on, but after the betrayal, each chose his own path, I chose the road to the west.

Crimea, Donbass? Yes, apparently you have studied the history of the issue poorly. You what the Austro-Hungarian propaganda planted, then it rose. I confess, guilty, it was necessary to burn out with a red-hot iron. You confused the banks. They took pity on you during the Soviet Union, fattened you up and gave you the territory, and you mean your shoulder. Who was who on the shoulder ?. Yes, and Russia was Ancient, and not Kiev, as they now write by inertia (I'm the same sinner). And nobody heard about Ukraine in those distant times. Until Mikhan Grushevsky soaked it off. Now go to the west, no one is holding you, only to the east you are no longer expected. And if they are waiting, then it is no longer with bread and salt.

[truck driver]

Since the 17th century, Ukraine has been under Muscovy, what kind of Austro-Hungarian propaganda did you dream about ?! Under the USSR, they gave something that was already inhabited by Ukrainians, or do you think, if they drove Russians to factories, the region immediately became Russian? Most of the population of Slobozhanshchina, Novorossiya, Donbass is so settled by Ukrainians. Thank you for telling us where to go, we will do without advice.

[stalki]

Since the 17th century, Ukraine has been under Muscovy, what kind of Austro-Hungarian propaganda did you dream about ?! Under the USSR, they gave something that was already inhabited by Ukrainians, or do you think, if they drove Russians to factories, the region immediately became Russian? Most of the population of Slobozhanshchina, Novorossiya, Donbass is so settled by Ukrainians. Thank you for telling us where to go, we will do without advice.

In the 17th century, there was no official name for Ukraine and the states did not know this, but there were outskirts of the principalities. Everything for everything. And there were neither Ukrainians nor their lands. Learn a real story. Not fairy tales.

[truck driver]

What was not officially, so the Muscovy was not interested in the independence of Ukraine, Bohdan Khmelnitsky passed everything in 1654. Or was there no Ukraine then? Aa understood from your logic that the Russians fought with the Poles, and then united with other Russians, right?))))
And how we did not immediately understand for sho with the Poles we were slaughtered, we were not there, there was no Zaporozhye Sich either, there was no language, everything was invented for us and the name and the state were cut for us, we were not there, but we are!

[stalki]

What was not officially, so the Muscovy was not interested in the independence of Ukraine, Bohdan Khmelnitsky passed everything in 1654. Or was there no Ukraine then? Aa understood from your logic that the Russians fought with the Poles, and then united with other Russians, right?))))
And how we did not immediately understand for sho with the Poles we were slaughtered, we were not there, there was no Zaporozhye Sich either, there was no language, everything was invented for us and the name and the state were cut for us, we were not there, but we are!

You are, but it is not clear to whom you are now ranked. The whole world already knows that the language is artificially assembled from words as little as possible resembling Russian. The fact that you were blinded from what was at hand of Western civilization is clear to everyone. The fact that you are now half Russian, and half do not understand who is beyond doubt. You ask yourself the main question, why are you needed? For what? Did you really believe that you will be given to be an independent state? A person starts a sabaku for anything, either to enjoy communicating with a furry friend, or for more practical purposes. Your people was created with only one purpose, to protect the borders of NATO, the border strip between the west and east, and, if the opportunity arises, to let go of the chain, more and more, this piece of territory has no meaning. Yes, at least a thousand times there sing your anthem, at least ten thousand times dance a hopak, at least grow a million forelocks, this will not make you Europe, and even more so no one will let you decide what to do and why you should live. I really look at all this with pain and wild melancholy takes from this whole monstrous situation. Yes, I do not want to hate any of you, but this is exactly what is expected of us.

[truck driver]

The third time I am writing an answer, I accidentally deleted it twice).
Ukraine is the region, owning which you can become a full-fledged empire - the Commonwealth or the Russian Empire, without Ukraine, neither you nor the Lyakham can become great. The Poles missed their chance by deciding to pollinate the Orthodox people, running into the uprising of the Ukrainians with B. Khmelnitsky. I think you missed it twice, the first time in 1991, the second and final in 2013-2014 by annexing the Crimea and Donbass. The fact that our people are corrupt and thieves is used by both your special services and the Western ones. I perfectly understand the weakness of our position, but being in the orbit of Western influence, ordinary people will get more buns than in an alliance with you, who do not even understand and do not recognize the right of Ukrainians to a state and a nation. Do you really think that I am repeating the mantra - there is no such people, state, language, you will gain the trust of Ukrainians? Well, if you are preparing the ground for aggression and seizure in the future, then everything is logical, go on and on.

[stalki]

The third time I am writing an answer, I accidentally deleted it twice).
Ukraine is the region, owning which you can become a full-fledged empire - the Commonwealth or the Russian Empire, without Ukraine, neither you nor the Lyakham can become great. The Poles missed their chance by deciding to pollinate the Orthodox people, running into the uprising of the Ukrainians with B. Khmelnitsky. I think you missed it twice, the first time in 1991, the second and final in 2013-2014 by annexing the Crimea and Donbass. The fact that our people are corrupt and thieves is used by both your special services and the Western ones. I perfectly understand the weakness of our position, but being in the orbit of Western influence, ordinary people will get more buns than in an alliance with you, who do not even understand and do not recognize the right of Ukrainians to a state and a nation. Do you really think that I am repeating the mantra - there is no such people, state, language, you will gain the trust of Ukrainians? Well, if you are preparing the ground for aggression and seizure in the future, then everything is logical, go on and on.

What aggression? I said I didn't want to think bad of you. The influence on you from the West pushes you to this. And what buns will you and your compatriots get? Where they are good, they let you go, you won't be able to sit on two chairs. And who doesn't recognize you? In fact, you are already Ukraine, but historically I don’t think so, but why should I insist on this when everything has already changed. If you want to be Ukraine, then under the USSR you were Ukraine and received more than everyone else. Want to go west? Go, but then you will be on the front line and you won't be able to sit out. And this is by no means a threat or intimidation. This is a fact that all reasonable people understand. We will be played off and provoked. Our peoples are doomed to war, in any format. Maybe you think that you will get from this? Nope, not an option and everyone feels it in their gut. Two kindred peoples with a sufficient degree of perseverance and resilience, this is a nuclear mixture, which is what the West needs. And the Angloskacuas are going to feast on the remains, not you and not us. So why listen to Western freaks and their clown junta? No need to be afraid of the Natsiks and all this riffraff, we need to put things in order.

[truck driver]

That rare case when I agree almost completely with an opponent!)
Only there is a nuance - the likelihood of a direct clash is small, and Donbass and Crimea are constantly kept in good shape, hence there will be no reconciliation, everything suits everyone, we are sawing money in the war, you "returned your" territories, under such conditions, Ukraine's accession to the EU and NATO is impossible. The conclusion at the moment is this - to voluntarily abandon the lost territories in order to get as close as possible to the West. Example Poland - even though an outpost and a tame mongrel, but already a high standard of living.

[stalki]

That rare case when I agree almost completely with an opponent!)
Only there is a nuance - the likelihood of a direct clash is small, and Donbass and Crimea are constantly kept in good shape, hence there will be no reconciliation, everything suits everyone, we are sawing money in the war, you "returned your" territories, under such conditions, Ukraine's accession to the EU and NATO is impossible. The conclusion at the moment is this - to voluntarily abandon the lost territories in order to get as close as possible to the West. Example Poland - even though an outpost and a tame mongrel, but already a high standard of living.

Here is how the card will fall. But I definitely don't want to fight you. Not only because the war is monstrous, but also because I do not want to betray the historical memory. "People who do not know their past have no future"

[hydrox]

They said correctly: if they don't want to build a house, they will die under someone else's fence!

[Alex Nevs]

Where? to the baltics? to ports?

[Arthur73]

So your Central Europeans stood for the overthrow of Yanukovych. So what? Poroshenko came with his retinue, filled their pockets, and left the population a choice - to work for Poroshenko and for a penny or to blame for picking strawberries, selling the body and cleaning the premises in Europe. Are you satisfied? With such citizens, Ukraine deserves what it currently has. You deserve it. You can freely serve the Panamas.

[Adam Khomich]

So do not "pro-Russian"!
We need "pro-Belarusian"!
But ... if Belarus and Russia have legalized relations, then this "opposition" hired by the West not only lacks its own position, but also its own opinion, since it is much more profitable to fight from Lithuania, Warsaw or Washington. Kotletozharka said in her interview without hesitation. who they (zmagars) really are and what they "fight" for!

[rocket757]

Quote: Anatol Klim

And when will we see the creation in Belarus

A question to the AHL, and our leaders, too! One shot, it all leveled, while others looked from the side .... why?

[rocket757]

It is clear that the "sponsors" do not intend to retreat! Now, just, real specialists, from afar, can connect ...

[abrakadabre]

It is clear that the "sponsors" do not intend to retreat! Now, just, real specialists, from afar, can connect ...

This is where the main task of the KGB is: to cut off their funding from abroad. Or it can be brought under registration as a foreign agent. With all that it implies.
This hydra must first of all not chop off its heads. Although it is necessary. The main thing is to break her connection with the stomach. Then the heads themselves dry out.

[rocket757]

Servicemen always have the same tasks, to protect the PEOPLE and the COUNTRY !!! And they will never be able to fulfill them if the very top ones will generate all sorts of different problems with supersonic speed.

[Victor_B]

Dolls with an American finger in the ass!
If they are allowed to power, then there will be a second Sumeria with wild capitalism, banditry, privatization and the division of state property.
Well, and another NATO country right under the Moscow windows.

[Wolverine]

Can you reveal, dear, what can Russia offer Belarus? Well, besides the same wild capitalism, privatization and derbanism by the growing oligarchs and the importation of hordes of Central Asians into the country.

[RUnnm]

Quote: Wolverine

the importation of hordes of Central Asians into the country

- Excuse me, who are you so affectionately calling? Actually, we already have the same migration legislation with Belarus, it seems.

[Wolverine]

And even these comrades:
https://www.mk.ru/incident/2020/08/05/vygnat-russkikh-iz-rossii-zhurnalistka-rasskazala-o-lozungakh-migrantov-v-moskve.html.
Maybe the same, but I did not come across something of the pictures of Minsk, similar to the celebration of Ramadan in Moscow. Probably because Belarusian employers prefer to hire locals rather than import migrant workers in herds, depriving local jobs

[Varyag_0711]

Wolverine (Andrey Uvarovsky)
Can you reveal, dear, what can Russia offer Belarus?

Well, if you are really that I mean, not in myself, I can disappoint you, the entire Belarusian economic miracle is based on the processing of Russian oil, which until recently the Russian Federation supplied to the Republic of Belarus at cheap prices. And the Republic of Belarus then sold ready-made gasoline, including to the EU and Ukraine, at quite market prices, which is why it had no small profit. But Lukashenko, with his interesting position, jumped to the point that the Kremlin was not interested in continuing to support him.

[Wolverine]

Do not be rude to a stranger, dear. If you cannot conduct the discussion normally, you should not even start.
Maybe the Belarusian economic miracle is based on processing Russian oil, but what do you know about what the opposition can offer them. That's just not necessary for the EU and their quotas drown. Education Poland + Ukraine + Belarus + Lithuania may well be economically viable outside the EU.

[aszzz888]

Wolverine
Wolverine (Andrey Uvarovsky)
Today, 07: 22
Education Poland + Ukraine + Belarus + Lithuania may well be economically viable outside the EU.

Does this mean that the other three will be plowed for psheks?

[Wolverine]

Who knows ... Tea is not the 17th century in the yard. It may be possible to succeed this time in Poland to act as the center of unification of the Slavs without undue noble ambition.

[aszzz888]

Wolverine (Andrey)
Today, 07: 32

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Who knows ... Tea is not the 17th century in the yard. Maybe this time Poland will succeed in becoming the center of the unification of the Slavs without excessive gentry ambition.

Oh well. Under the roof of the Merikatos?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Wolverine

without excessive gentry ambition.

And in history there were applicants when the gentry abandoned their ambition for the sake of common interests?

[Wolverine]

As a matter of fact, they had one chance in 1610-1612, but they missed

[Ingvar 72]

Then on what basis is your confidence that psheks simply do not use you as slaves, as has repeatedly happened in history?

[Wolverine]

Everyone deserves a second chance. You believe the Russian government, and you constantly give them new chances, despite the fact that they flush previous promises down the toilet. And I'm not a Belarusian if that.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Wolverine

Everyone deserves a second chance

Maybe Hitler's party also failed, maybe the Nazis need the same second chance?

Quote: Wolverine

You believe the Russian government, and

I do not believe.

[Wolverine]

As for Hitler, this is overkill. You should not draw a parallel between Nazi Germany and the Time of Troubles, when the Poles themselves were invited by the Moscow boyars

[hydrox]

Well, let's say, they were not invited, but let in (the status was different from the beginning!), But how they did it!
And there are still many such "invitations" in Russia today: as in 611, they are latifundists on the one hand, but sovereign people on the other. And how does this 400-year-old situation differ from today's Moscow situation - the same merger of owners and authorities!
But Pshekia, with his national debt of $ 30 billion, is unable to unite anyone, much less lead - with such servile manners as the beloved wife of the white master ...

[Arthur73]

And the people in Russia did not expect them either then or now, except for Susanin!

[Armored beast]

Dreaming is not harmful. Only Poland is dancing to the amer's tune. And what is the center of unification of the Slavs? Do you even believe in it yourself?

[Diana Ilyina]

aszzz888 (sheriff)
Does this mean that the other three will be plowed for psheks? bully

This he means that it is necessary to revive the Rzeczpospolita, but, of course, only Poles will panu there, the rest will be slaves or in Polish bydło, as it was in the Rzeczpospolita.
Indeed, it is an "excellent" prospect for Belarusians.

[aszzz888]

Diana Ilyina (Diana)
Today, 07: 33

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aszzz888 (sheriff)
Does this mean that the other three will be plowed for psheks? bully
This he means that it is necessary to revive the Rzeczpospolita, but, of course, only Poles will panu there, the rest will be slaves or in Polish bydło, as it was in the Rzeczpospolita.
Indeed, it is an "excellent" prospect for Belarusians. belay

! This is exactly what I meant. Lithuania and unnecessary are no longer at the expense of independent states.

[Servisinzhener]

But so far the Ukrainian economic miracle is not very visible.

[Wolverine]

Dear, I already wrote in another topic. But I will repeat - only 6 years have passed since the Maidan, it is too early to draw conclusions. Our leader, whimpering about breakthroughs, has been leading us for over 20 years in search of paradise, and nothing, this stable wandering does not bother you. Why should Ukraine show some outstanding results in a much shorter time? We're like an older brother, aren't we? That means they should be smarter, more adventurous, etc. When, taking into account the next national projects, the next term for a bright future has been set? Year 2030, no? Well, it means that for us the approximate period of reaching a bright (relatively) future is about 30 years. For Ukraine, let's add 5 years on top. conclusions about the incapacity of the Ukrainian economy. it makes no sense to do a miracle earlier than 2049.

[Diana Ilyina]

Wolverine (Andrey)
But I will repeat - only 6 years have passed since the Maidan, it is too early to draw conclusions.

Yes, there has been one continuous Maidan since the collapse of the USSR, they will not have time to choose someone, as you can already hear the gondba and the gang get out. Their energy would be in a peaceful direction. One of the richest republics of the USSR slipped into poverty and prostitution, and their prostitution is on a national scale. The country is a prostitute who is always looking for someone more profitable to lie under, but the trouble is, everyone is trying to fuck her for free.

[Servisinzhener]

Doesn't bother me. Because I remember what life was like in 1999. And I can compare what was before him and now. And this comparison is not in favor of 1999.
I also remember the expectations from the last Maidan not from our media. And from the forum "Ukrainian Truth" and Ukrainian television. Ukrainians sincerely believed that Yanukovych was against Ukraine's accession to the EU. And they didn’t want to hear that the European association is not like joining the EU. And not even a step towards it. The statements of the Maidan supporters that the only obstacle to obtaining the European standard of living is the current president. Not about three decades before the rise in the standard of living of speech did not go, at most a year. In the worst case, two.

[Wolverine]

Well, of course, the comparison of the current moment is not in favor of 1999, since 1999 is the starting point, like 2014 for Ukraine. But have we reached the point where we can say yes: we have a developed, economically strong, social and legal state with a developed civil society?

[Servisinzhener]

For me it is quite. And what are your criteria for reaching this point.

[Wolverine]

You see, I am a resident of the Far East and it is difficult for me to assess your optimism - in such a matter, subjectivity plays a very important role. China and the Republic of Korea are close at hand, so there is something to compare with.

[Servisinzhener]

It depends on what to measure and what to measure. And to what extent these indicators reflect the real state of affairs. For example GDP per capita. Germany and Sweden are very developed countries, but both are twice inferior to Luximburg and 2,5 times behind Qatar, in which Sharia law and the ideas of Wakhabism are at the head. South Korea is inferior to Brunei. China is inferior to such world giants as Gabbon, Dominican Republic and Mauritius. But if these three WFP giants stop completely exporting manufactured goods, then no one will notice, but if China stops exporting to the whole world, it will be bad.
It is also important who measures. And sometimes such ratings give you wonder. When for the comfort of living in the country of equatorial Africa. With the incessant wars of local tribes and one paved street in the capital, they are higher than Russia.

[Polymer]

Quote: Wolverine

Those. conclusions about the incapacity of the Ukrainian economy. it makes no sense to do a miracle earlier than 2049.

Interestingly, if in 2013-2014 the citizens of Ukraine were told this, would they support Euromaidan? No, they were told: as soon as you throw off Yanukovych, you will immediately heal, well, just rivers of milk with jelly banks from Europe to Ukraine will immediately flow!
And now let those same Belarusians who oppose Lukashenka, say that if they throw him off now, then by 2055 it will be possible to talk about the results. May be. Likely. Probably...

[Servisinzhener]

And by that time, either the donkey, or the padishah, or the promiser ...

[Servisinzhener]

By the way, I remembered the conversations of the period of the end of the USSR, it also seemed to people that they only needed to remove the communists from power and live ...

[Arthur73]

Well, well, your curators said that it takes 20-30 years to reach the level of the economy of the times of Yanukovych, and to Poland, all 70! And was it worth spilling blood for this ???

[Diana Ilyina]

Servisinzhener (Andrey)
But so far the Ukrainian economic miracle is not very visible.

Well, why immediately with the trump cards? Don't upset the troll, he sincerely believes into Eurogean crap values.

[Egoza]

Quote: Wolverine

Education Poland + Ukraine + Belarus + Lithuania may well be economically viable outside the EU

Can! Only one in this formation will be panami snapping the whip, and the rest will be BADLOM, which will plow without straightening his back.

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Wolverine

what the opposition can offer them.

Priority actions (until 2021)
1. In the political sphere:
Withdrawal from the “Union State”, the Eurasian Union, the Customs Union and other integration entities dominated by Russia;
-prohibition of pro-Russian organizations whose activities are contrary to national interests, as well as Russian funds and organizations that finance such structures;
... there is a lot of text, I will not copy and paste all Russophobia here.

[Wolverine]

This is certainly bad for Russia. But we are now speaking for Belarus. How bad are these measures specifically for Belarus?

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Wolverine

How bad are these measures specifically for Belarus?

As one aunt used to say in G. Danelia's film "Heads and Tails" - "Do you know why there is a mess in the country? Because no one observes agreements"!
One hundred billion dollars invested by Russia in the economy of Belarus over the past 10 years is it good or bad for Belarus?
And how did the Poles help Belarus?

[Wolverine]

Well what can I say ... Obviously money cannot buy love.

[DenZ]

Quote: Wolverine

what do you know about what the opposition has to offer them. That's just not necessary for the EU and their quotas to drown

And what is there to know, everything is according to the well-established scheme from the United States - "Buy Russian oil to risk your economic security" - that's what they will say. Well, of course they will tell you from whom and, most importantly, how much you need to buy this very oil. Everything is elementary and fits into already erased schemes. Whether it will be profitable for Belarus, no one in the West cares because it will definitely be beneficial for them to derail Belarus in this way.

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: DenZ

"Buying Russian Oil Risk Your Economic Security"

Over the past year, the United States became the largest buyer of Russian oil :-)
And LNG too. Resell to Europe under the guise of their own. Facts are darkness.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Wolverine

Education Poland + Ukraine + Belarus + Lithuania may well be economically viable outside the EU.

It cannot from the word in general that it will be aggravated by the fact that the Poles (and this formation is POLAND at the time of its heyday) will keep others for

[Grits]

Quote: Wolverine

Education Poland + Ukraine + Belarus + Lithuania may well be economically viable outside the EU.

I think that Education Russia + Belarus will be economically much more viable without any EU

[stasimar]

OK. If so, where is the Russian miracle from oil refining !? And how many more natural resources ... Where is the miracle !?

[Diana Ilyina]

stasimar
OK. If so, where is the Russian miracle from oil refining !? And how many more natural resources ... Where is the miracle !?

Where, where, in Karaganda ... And then you do not know the names of whom this "miracle" settles in the pockets? Can you list them or guess yourself?

[Polymer]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Where, where, in Karaganda ...

Please specify the address. Otherwise I don't know that we have a "miracle" here ...

[Servisinzhener]

Oil and gas at prices lower than those at which they are sold. As well as other resources. Sales market for finished products of agriculture and industry. The sale of military equipment is not at export prices, as is the purchase of products from Belarusian defense enterprises.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Servisinzhener

as well as the purchase of products from Belarusian defense enterprises.

Does the MZKT 8-axle special transporter really cost more than 2/3 of the cost of a modern IS Su-30cm? Or did they twist our legs?

[Servisinzhener]

Not aware of the pricing of this car. But I doubt very much that someone else besides Russia will need it. And if Belarus moves on pro-Western rails, then MKZT products will have to be abandoned.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Servisinzhener

Not aware of the pricing of this car. But I doubt very much that someone else besides Russia will need it. And if Belarus moves on pro-Western rails, then MKZT products will have to be abandoned.

I found the price of a special transporter in the tyrnet. A special landing gear for an ICBM launcher costs 1 billion 50 million rubles for 2018. Su-30cm about 1.5 billion rubles.
We are working on a special transporter project at Kamaz. For a long time everything went neither shaky nor shaky. The last couple of years of work has accelerated

Lesson learned. We cannot even buy military equipment that is critical for us from our allies. Otherwise, it's clear ...

[Alex777]

Can you reveal, dear, what can Russia offer Belarus?

Everything that we have had so far (largely on our money), plus an improvement in political life without revolutions and associated losses.
Nobody else will offer Belarus to this day.
And don't forget about restitution, which is very common in Europe.
As for wild capitalism, in the Czech Republic now even the producers of local dumplings are owned by the French.

[Winnie76]

Quote: Wolverine

Can you reveal, dear, what can Russia offer Belarus?

Investments, a huge domestic market, protection from external threats, education in Russian, cheap energy resources

Counter question: What can Belarus offer Russia? Again the nipple system?

[Wolverine]

Well, let Belarus itself determine with whom it is on the way. Why all these initiatives to create reserves of security officials, etc.

[Slipper 2]

One has a fat face like a glutton and the other is like Lisa from LGBT
... apazization

[kartalovkolya]

Yes, dirty trick got out of the sewer! We got out, shit, and now it's time to cleanse the Belarusian society of this shit! And the people of Belarus have long "figured out" and understood the essence of these supporters of pro-Western crap!

[Thrifty]

Says as if it reads the text! Where will the funding sources come from? Is that from those who are eager to embroil Belarus and Russia forever! The impression is that the Jews opened the recruitment for the courses of Christ-sellers, the thesis "the west is with us, the west will help us" is literally written on the forehead of this woe-politician. ...

[rocket757]

Pike in the pond then, Schaub did not sleep! especially since the crucian carp had a LARGE reserve of time, shob feed up to a great size, when he had a lot of pikes !!! And the pike, for now, are small, they still grow and grow ... and if the crucian carp PROTECTS its offspring, the pike will remain a skinny cord .... no, external feeding WILL NOT HELP! she doesn’t use any complementary foods, she needs various little things, she needs to feed herself to the right size!
So let's see who is king in the pond and who is so-so.

[rocket757]

opposition of the Republic of Belarus announced the creation of a new party

rational decision. Fight in the legal field and you will be rewarded according to your deserts.

[RUnnm]

This photo should be placed on all billboards of the party - "The starving victim of the regime and the dissatisfied man-hater. Together (sic) we will win!"
I think there are two goals:
1. To create a party that will be able to consolidate the protest masses with the aim of the maximum possible entry into power in possible elections.
2. Cutting off various opposition parties from the Western trough - all cookies are only for us, our loved ones. Especially this victim on the left in the photo.

[Arthur73]

And his ryakha will not crack from cookies ??

[g_ae]

As the author of the song "Changes" sang, "in the place", but they do not specify in what.

[g_ae]

By the way, you can't fool me. I immediately saw that they were sworn Lukashists in order to tarnish the bright face of the peaceful revolution. (Banter if that).

[rotmistr60]

According to Kolesnikova, the Belarusian public has done more in 3 months than in 26 years.

It is an opposition and opposition in Africa. Therefore, "spiritualized" faces, admiration for oneself, bright (in their opinion) slogans, an attempt to force the authorities to something by means of chaos and forceful actions can be traced in all color revolutions. Somewhere it really happens almost at a time.

[RUnnm]

Quote: rocket757

opposition of the Republic of Belarus announced the creation of a new party

rational decision. Fight in the legal field and you will be rewarded according to your deserts.

From 10 to 15 years of strict ... because in the legal framework, such Vlasovites are doomed to failure. And they have long gone beyond the legal framework.

[rocket757]

Quote: RUnnm

in legal terms, such Vlasovites are doomed to failure.

Do not consider their "sponsors" to be complete fools. They know how to play, almost by the rules ... they win much less often, that's for sure, but they EVOLVE, LEARN and become even more dangerous!
The one who has slowed down in development or jerks back and forth, for them the most favorite enemy, the easiest !!!
So sho, real experts, can take up the AHL and seriously ... that sho was before, this is the shtetl exercises of DILETANTS who imagined themselves to be something with something.
Nothing IS ENDED yet!

[RUnnm]

Nobody considers them fools, but there is one nuance - the legal field is formed by only one side. And if we forget about “multi-vectoralism”, listen less to the democratic public, then it is not so difficult to drive all kinds of NGOs into a corner.

[rocket757]

External ones can be limited, of course ... how do the ambassadors of Poland and the troops feel in Minsk? Are they sitting on suitcases or what ??? Or vectors have not gone anywhere?
So, these vectors, one specific figure has spawned and the servicemen will not be able to do ANYTHING with it, even if they are turned inside out!
And to disperse only the locals, because, you see, they sold themselves to someone there ... even when, in part, it will be true, IMPOSSIBLE and will anger a significant mass of citizens even more!
Time will tell who is a dundu and who knows how to act smart.

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: RUnnm

driving all sorts of non-profit organizations into a corner is not so difficult

To deprive them of Western food and disperse to get their daily bread or go to grub to the owners. Cutlet frying is an example of this :-)

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: rocket757

So sho, real experts, can take up the AHL and seriously ...

Real experts at this time are preparing the bow revolution in the USA

[rocket757]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Real experts at this time are preparing the bow revolution in the USA

I can't say for sure, but earlier, the activities of specialists, services focused on the external vector were not welcomed inside the country and were seriously limited ...
As it is now, it’s not straightforward to say .... they have overkorned a lot everywhere and everywhere.
But all the same, they had a lot of services, organizations, sharpened for all sorts of destruction outside ... True, quantity is not necessarily quality.
In short, we'll see.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: rocket757

they have overwhelmed a lot everywhere and everywhere.
But all the same, they had a lot of services, organizations, sharpened for all sorts of destruction outside ... True, quantity is not necessarily quality.
In short, we'll see.

We will see, but I dare to note that the "Velvet Revolution" is an extremely double-edged weapon, the slightest inaccuracy will pierce the owner's groin. It is clear that at first this instrument was greeted with wild enthusiasm and looked like a real panacea and an alternative to a hot war. But the question is that now the situation in the world has reached such an extreme - that everyone, forgetting about what a real big war is, with a kind of enthusiasm from the possibilities are already thinking about a big hot one. It is clear that this is not about ordinary people, but about the big blood that has gone crazy from the smell and the even greater power of the Anglo-Saxon ilite, similar to the power of the gods of the ancient world ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Cyril G ...

It is clear that this is not about ordinary people, but about the great blood that has gone crazy from the smell and the even greater power of the Anglo-Saxon ilite, similar to the power of the gods of the ancient world ...

Just yesterday there was a speech by an expert, an Americanist .... he expressed a lot of interesting, strange things and said so seriously that those elites who have made a mess all over the world have completely lost control over what they have muddied themselves in order to fight the "boy bad guy "sitting in the oval office !!!
So he claims that the "boy" in that office will remain and with a high degree of probability, the mess, after the elections, will reach its climax !!! afterwards, he really doesn't say anything ...
It's a boom to wait for the development of events, as the echoes will ripple across the world.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: rocket757

It's a boom to wait for the development of events, as the echoes will ripple across the world.

I agree. The wave will go. And the scenarios can be very different ...

[anjey]

We are forming a new, conscientious and responsible Belarusian society.

What kind of consciousness we are talking about, this is the fiction of the next, but already pro-Western grabbers, striving for power, look against the background of the same covid, crowds without masks gather and spread the infection across Belarus in the literal and figurative sense, even if Lukashenka added something to himself, but there is no alternative, Tikhanovskaya is a simple puppet, this is clear and understandable, there was no her superiority in votes, simple false manipulations of the people, and they have nothing to offer, only what Western political strategists will write, and they have in the first place the political and economic confrontation with Russia, so think syabry, horseradish radish is not sweeter, and maybe even bitter to get caught many times ...

[rocket757]

Quote: anjey

What kind of consciousness are we talking about, this is the fiction of the next, but already pro-Western grabbers, striving for power

So that is correct, BUT, what will be the difference later, when they convince the layman that they carry something a lot and all the best !!! The main thing is the result! Champagne will be drunk by the WINNERS!
No need to delude yourself, the country is already reared, not very eager for ... although against, then it is not very trying ...
most stressful time, neither here nor there.

[cniza]

An explosive time and God forbid to keep from chaos ...

[rocket757]

The hope that we just manage to hold out .... is not rational.
It is necessary to work, to carry out various actions that will help smooth out the contradictions in society ... it will not dissolve by itself.
In general, according to the mind it is necessary, otherwise it will be .... but fig knows how it will be.

[cniza]

Yes, maybe you need to drop it and work a lot, otherwise everything ...

[rocket757]

We are not extras, we just sit on the block.
Of course, things are straight, right on the next street, but behind the FENCE!

[cniza]

And the fence is not high, they rehearse for us there ...

[anjey]

I would like to say once again that in our time there are no completely independent states, and if the Belarusians choose a pro-Western vector and continue the split of the Slavic world under the western timpani, it will be in the end, and everything goes to this, WW3, I don’t know if there will be a winner in it, but already now the Belarusians will move into the trenches of our eternal geopolitical enemy, as the people of Kraints have already done, I would not like to write the Syabrian people as traitors, especially when I remember that my grandfather died in 1943 near Mogilev, freeing the Belarusian brothers, my heart simply squeezes, we one people, do not let the Western enemies split us!

[rocket757]

Quote: anjey

, we are one people, do not let the Western enemies split us!

Unfortunately, "our" elites, remember ABOUT THE MAIN, when it is beneficial to them!
With the national, responsible elite, we have NO ICE!
And we, ourselves, behave very differently, even in words, and in fact, for the cause, few people are ready to sacrifice the personal, for the sake of the public.
Let's take a break, those who remember, keep and try to pass on to descendants ... what will happen next, I don't even want to imagine ...

[anjey]

Yes, indeed, many of our owners of Bubble secretly dream of full integration with the West, it’s just that many people were ordered to go there for various reasons and registered as competitors (they, our oligators, apparently forgot that Russia, in many respects, retained the status of a superpower and destroyed it it is to lose their profits) and as a result, an economic confrontation began, and the geopolitical one did not stop, even after the change of the ideological course by a pack of EBN ...

[rocket757]

The capitalists of all countries do not necessarily dream of uniting ... at least as long as their primordial enemy slumbers and does not unite. Here's how just so immediately, which has been demonstrated more than once or twice !!!
Those. A "palace coup" is acceptable and even desirable for them if it is in their favor ... and the thief is a real revolution, the change of the ruling class to a socially different one, it is like death for them and will unite, fight to the end !!!

[anjey]

Imperialist competition is like death The last argument of competitors is guns.

[rocket757]

Quote: anjey

Imperialist competition is like death

Here are just WHOSE DEATH ???
Who of the serious capitalists suffered as a result of the wars that killed millions ???
But to list those who got rich "on blood" such a list is endless !!! although the most "fat cats" have long been the same!

[anjey]

It is not Hitlers who kindle wars, but these fat super-rich cats, Hitlers are only an instrument of enrichment and redistribution of the World for them, and this is scary, because these cats often come out really dry with bags of super-profits earned on blood and millions of corpses.

[rocket757]

Quote: anjey

cats often come out really dry with bags of super-profits earned on blood and millions of corpses.

It's a well-known fact, but ... nothing changes.

[anjey]

Marxism-Leninism tried to change something, but at the moment it has suffered a temporary fiasco.

[rocket757]

Want to neigh or be surprised ... listen to Andrey Bezrukov on Vesti FM for 31.08. in the cycle "formula of meaning", a very interesting analysis. The assessments of the situation largely coincide with the statements of other serious "guys" such as Satanovsky, Evstafiev, etc.
So, they are seriously discussing that a wave was born in the USA that supports the socialist path of development !!! and it’s in vain that old Sanders stepped aside, and the youngsters like Cortez hadn’t really fledged yet. Those. THE REQUEST IS ALREADY IS !!! In their own way, in a peculiar way, many EDUCATED young people believe that it is time to end capitalism and move on to the next stage of development!?!?!?
Here's WHAT IT IS, WHERE IS IT FROM ??? such serious "guys, whom I have listed, can joke !!! but we do not have April 1, so it's worth taking the words seriously.

[anjey]

Again, everything comes from who controls us and what ideas invade their restless and looking for good or bad ideals, brains, so perhaps a socialist-world chipping is coming

[rocket757]

It is possible to fight against partial control, but then into the taiga, into the desert, into the oceans to the islands, and even then, deliberately not taking with you the means of both communication and control, on the other hand.

[anjey]

Yes, we are still under control, internet, gadgets, jps, gsm, social networks, digitalization of everything and everything, that's just positive or negative it will bring a person, that's the question.

[rocket757]

Either control or into the taiga, that is the question.
What is already there ... the majority simply shrugs off the annoying advertising. At least those who don't post their pictures and other data on social networks. Although, passport and other data are already chatting somewhere, for the time being, until they become of interest to anyone.
Such is the time now, so we already exist .... this is already an inevitable evil.

[anjey]

Probably the taiga is canceled, I’m talking with you and at the same time digging potatoes at the dacha, taking a small dose of Syabra vodka (relevant, isn't it?) And I have time to communicate on a gadget. That seems to have lit myself from all sides, but who needs it? There are millions of us, we all want Napoleons

[anjey]

By the way, the slogan "All for the Bulba!" Is not bad for Belarus now.

[anjey]

Damn, in Belarus it is bigger, probably

[anjey]

In order not to be unfounded, I sink to the ordinary with the help of a gadget

, advertising is not

[rocket757]

We have a heat, in the garden it would have been useless to dig into scrap ... and with potatoes, thank God, it's not all right. Plant her, just feed the bear.
Here we go fishing, there is no connection, and accordingly there will be no control, temporarily ... and we will take the little white one with us! Under the ear and barbecue, it will be the most.

[anjey]

I also love fishing, and so we have mushrooms, if I don’t go through with "Syabrami", then in the morning I will rush for mushrooms

[rocket757]

We have dry, not a rain, full address with mushrooms.

[anjey]

It's clear, but there is probably something that we do not have

[rocket757]

Come to think of it .... winter will come here, God forbid, in January, and even then not necessarily.
We will swim until October at least! Today +36, by the way, is NOT a RECORD!

[anjey]

In everything, if you are able and willing, you can find happiness

[Sergej1972]

Well, why did he add himself? Doesn't have enough mind, doesn't understand that it is stupid?

[Ka-52]

the united party will be called "Together"

what a convenient name. As events develop, you can always substitute any force through the preposition "c": "Together with the EU", "Together with NATO", "Together with Alpha-Centauri" ... and if it squeezes, then you can "Together with Russia"

[cniza]

Quote: Ka-52

and if it squeezes, then you can "Together with Russia"

No, the owner will not allow them ...

[Ka-52]

No, the owner will not allow them ...

there is an eastern wisdom: "who sold once will sell again." So don't renounce

[cniza]

I'm talking about the fact that all their body movements are only at the behest and a step to the side or a turn will lead to suffocation ...

[rocket757]

A clever politician is a cunning politician !!! A chameleon needs to take a master class from them, how to change the "color", for any color and taste!

[cniza]

All politics is dirty work and whoever manages not to get carried away in the mud wins ...

[rocket757]

Some are anointed with all sorts of different ... but manage to convince the average person / voter that they are honest, clean, fluffy !!! There are such "talents".

[cniza]

There are, but they stink a mile away ...

[rocket757]

So the famous French perfume was invented for this purpose, to drown out all sorts of scents, mask ... and now washerwomen, washing, cleaning and other, deodorizing.

[cniza]

What is happening in life now - the French, the Germans "disguise" people who are comfortable for them in Montenegro and do not notice his amber ...

[rocket757]

Politicians are so promiscuous now, you won't be embarrassed by anything if it's for them!
Now, if against, tady oh, immediately such a face of the face will sour, no ee.

[cniza]

Yeah, omnivores and one egg ...

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: cniza

, the owner will not allow them ...

Master - who? Gazprom?
I think the "master" is playing a chess game. And I think the "master" is not in the West.

[Mountain shooter]

We chose an unsuccessful angle ... you can only join such party leaders from a big hangover, but when you sleep it off, you run away, breaking your legs ... Probably, the desire to "channel" considerable financial aid into your pocket because of ... knocked out all other considerations ... It is worth adopting a law on dispersal and criminal liability of parties, which are financed from foreign funds.

[Servisinzhener]

The angle is normal. I was amused by the hipster style of clothing. The only thing missing is the beard.

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Unsuccessful angle chosen

You need to photoshop it :-)
He should have done liposuction of fat per centner. The convicts fed such pigs and took them with them when they escaped :-)

[solzh]

Quote: Adam Khomich

You need to photoshop it :-)

Tanunafig, where to find an amateur for his photoshop)))))

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Representatives of the Belarusian opposition made a statement regarding the unification of their forces. One might think that before the elections the idea of ​​unification did not enter their heads for some reason, but now the unification process has been proclaimed.

"Time is money. When you see money, do not waste time. Forge iron without leaving the cashier." (Film "The Diamond Arm")

[tralflot1832]

Jackals, not even wolves, wear sheep's clothing.

[cniza]

Quote: tralflot1832

Jackals, not even wolves, wear sheep's clothing.

She is too small for them and bursts at all the seams ...

[Oleg133]

Quote: Anatole Klim

a truly pro-Russian party

The pro-Russian party is already everywhere ...
What pro-Russian values ​​in power exist in the Russian Federation?
I sawed off a piece from my homeland, sold it, took it to the conditional London-Nice-New York.
I have not seen any other values ​​yet.

And a pro-Russian party cannot be created either in Belarus or in Ukraine. Because the Russian Federation is against the Russians.
The same LDNR, for example, was created as full-time as possible, so that not a single Russian on the planet would want anything ...
And look at the money, to whom the Russian Federation forgives debts and gives new ones.

Does the Russian Federation personally forgive you debts?

[Egoza]

How do I "like" when someone starts to say: "To the stake? - the progressive public is indignant"! As soon as the "public" sounded - that's it! Get ready for the Maidan, the "quiet attack" of the CIA .... in short, immediately call the riot police

[Mimino]

What soulful, simple faces! I already believe them!

[solzh]

Quote: Mimino

What soulful, simple faces! I already believe them!

It is immediately clear that these types will be defend the rights of the people stuff your pocket

[Livonetc]

The creation of new parties, with the setting of far-reaching goals, is the right thing to do.
Let them develop a full-fledged program.
Prepare their proposals on constitutional reform and submit them for public discussion.
Then they prepare for a referendum on the constitution and carry out preparatory work for the next elections.
They will not repeat the mistakes of the maydanut neighbors.

[sleeve]

Exactly ... And it would not be bad to stretch the schedule. A referendum on the constitution for half a year, elections after ratification in half a year. After the referendum, immediately re-elect the parliament in three months. Then it will be straightforward.

[sleeve]

Does this mean that the opposition is preparing to go over to parliamentary confrontation?

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: sleeve

go to parliamentary confrontation

And what should they do with the prepared Molotov cocktails and other attributes of the opposition?

[sleeve]

Vooot. And this is interesting to me. This is the preparation of a political platform (not force) for the continuation of the coup (such as with whom the interested parties "talk")? Or is it a preparation for a "rollback" in connection with the not particularly positive development of events in the context of the rebellion?

[forest1]

Pro-Western Babariko, before going to prison, was the chairman of the Belarusian balgazprombank, a subsidiary bank of Gazprom and Gazprombank.
It is necessary to drive all these Gazprom so that their heels sparkle only.

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: forest1

Pro-Western Babariko, before going to prison, was the chairman of the Belarusian balgazprombank, a subsidiary bank of Gazprom and Gazprombank.
It is necessary to drive all these Gazprom so that their heels sparkle only.

Is your logic all right? 20 years of work in Gazprom and "pro-Western"?
Just some kind of Stirlitz.

[forest1]

This is trolling. It's hard to hold on after reading the comments.

[Kart]

What disgusting faces ...
Typical Opposition Eras.

[solzh]

Quote: Carte

What disgusting faces ...

In a popular proverb about people like them they say: "Head with a basket, but not a crumb for the brain"

[Nestor]

Neither one nor the second is "drawn" to the role of opposition leader, they are not particularly popular!
THC tried to cover her activities, but somehow without a spark, she lacks charisma.
Another thing Latushko, read about him, talked with brothers-Belarusians, ordinary people in chats. Respected in the opposition "popular environment", the former Minister of Culture, at the moment the popular sympathies (of those with whom he spoke) is on his side. note!

[zulusuluz]

The ex-director of Belgazprombank deliberately goes to the "elections", the result of which is known to Lukashenka's opponents in advance - prison. And this is without an order or support?
I don’t believe it, oh I don’t believe it ... And Sergei Tikhanovsky is very suitable for this multi-walk - he excited the people, took them to the streets. Yes, only someone miscalculated, the people of Belarus did not burn cars and shops ...

[cniza]

Quote: zulusuluz

Yes, only someone miscalculated, the people of Belarus did not burn cars and shops ...

The provocateurs did not work, and thank God.

[solzh]

Quote: zulusuluz

Yes, only someone miscalculated

The one who started all this was the one who miscalculated. The main mistake was that the provocateurs expected that the people of Belarus would take to the streets against Lukashenka. But the people of Belarus do not want to plunge their country into chaos. The people of Belarus chose the stability and prosperity of their country instead of chaos.

[cniza]

The then contender for the presidential post of the Republic of Bashkortostan Viktor Babariko made a video message in which he stated the need to create a new Belarusian political force.

A real Teletubby and his appetites are appropriate ...

[north 2]

In the new hybrid war against the Russian World, information strategy is of prime importance. But in Belarus they freely watch and listen to what is broadcast and shown from Russia by ECHO of Moscow, RTVi, MEDUZA, RAIN, etc. According to Russian laws, there are obvious calls for a change in the state system in Russia and for the overthrow of the government in almost every program. Shenderovichi does not get out with RTVi,
Svanidzi, Gozmans, Ilarionovs, Belkovsky, Demarsky, Kasyanovs and pours mud on Russia on the Russian World, distorts the entire history of Russia and the Russian World from the times of the Rurikovichs to the times of the late USSR. And they do not invite opponents to the studio, so that they can refute this lie and
distortion. The presenter asks leading questions, and these liars-provocateurs pour out a portion of lies and propaganda against Russia and the Russian World, and both shine in boundless happiness that there is no one to object to them here. On RTVi, Vitaly Demarsky, the son of the famous sports commentator Naum Demarsky, played the first violin against the Russian World. And no one in Russia these voices, which hates both Russia and the Russian world and threatens the state system, no one stops their throats. Like, demokaratia.
So after all and in Belarus this scum looks. So even in Belarus, probably there are Demar and Gozmans, and they also have their own radio and TV channels there. So also the Polish and Lithuanian and Ukrainian
Demarskie, Kuchary and Svanidzi broadcasts to Belarus ...
In my opinion, Russia has created excellent systems with unsurpassed IT in new missiles and electronic warfare systems in the army, and has forgotten about civil communications on the Internet, on television and radio. And the prosecutor's office forgot about the articles in the Criminal Code for calls for coups or for public lies against a giant group of people, who is Russkiy Mir. So who is there to look up to and who should Belarus take an example from, how to fight against those whom the West puts in a hybrid war against Russia and against the Russian World, to which Belarus must undoubtedly belong ...

[grandfather_Kostya]

The guys are strong in demagogy. In such long speeches, nothing was said!

[solzh]

Not surprising. In recent decades, politics has been dominated by demagogues ...

[BAI]

In the near future we will submit documents for registration (of the party).

As a foreign agent?

[solzh]

Quote: BAI

As a foreign agent?

Where are they going to register the batch? in the Baltics? Or where else?

[ddmitrij]

It's time for Lukashenka to retire, if only because he believed that this Babarik was working for Russia. Certainly not now, not under these conditions! And it is worth checking who poured it into his ears.
And this jogging woman is best neutralized from politics as quickly as possible. She will drink a lot of blood from Belarus.

[iouris]

Lukashenka's model of the state, of course, has exhausted itself. Ours too. But this does not mean that a "responsible" society emerges the next day. Alternative: either a revolution "from above", or reformatting the territory to zero.

[solzh]

Quote: iouris

Lukashenka's model of the state, of course, has exhausted itself. Ours too.

Time does not stand still, it moves forward. So it is with the state. The state must move (develop), for this it is necessary to carry out the necessary reforms in a timely manner (oh, and I do not like this word reform after everything that was previously connected with "reforms"), otherwise everything may end badly for the state (historical examples when the state slowed down its development, which ultimately led to the destruction of states, I will not cite, because there are a lot of them)

[Ax Matt]

You can see in her eyes: this uchka will go far if no one stops ... Not that that sheep ...

[iouris]

Quote: Ax Matt

that uchka will go far if

... the police won't stop. And "that sheep", ex-presidential candidates, like the one who won the elections, will apparently go to speak at the UN. She no longer belongs to herself.

[solzh]

Quote: iouris

She no longer belongs to herself.

There was nothing to get into politics. Now all the rights to it belong to, whether the Poles, or the Americans, in short, FIG knows who.

[solzh]

Quote: Ax Matt

will go far

Where her masters send her, there she will go.

[1536]

As Comrade Mayakovsky: "The party is a million shoulders / pressed tightly to each other. / We will throw a construction site into the sky, / holding and lifting each other."
Something is somehow far from the concept of "party" today "parties", appearing like mushrooms after rain in different parts of the planet Earth. Often, indeed, to search for truffles in the ground, because these different parties are created. Well, from these, at least, there is some benefit. And here right on the proverb: "there is nothing to wave fists after a fight." What kind of "construction projects in the sky" are there?

[Kostadinov]

Babariko is a wonderful surname for the Reichskommissar.
Reichskommissar Ostland Babariko - how good it sounds.

[solzh]

Quote: Kostadinov

Reichskommissar Ostland Babariko - how good it sounds

There was such a commissar-general (head of the occupation administration) of the General District of Belarus Wilhelm Kube. He was liquidated by the Hero of the Soviet Union Elena Grigorievna Mazanik.

[agoran]

Here, kmk, is not a far-sighted policy of the Russian leadership.
Lukashenka began to play in a multi-vector approach - please, supply energy carriers at commercial prices. Well, would a lot of fuel from his refinery go to the Outskirts?
I want the price as in Bryansk, in fact Bryansk is a subsidized region, and why should the Russian Federation need to subsidize an independent state?
Some media reported that the pension for two in the Republic of Belarus was growing 38-40 thousand. rubles, but in the Russian Federation this is not always the case. Belarusians, correct if not.
Why am I saying this, but to the fact that we need to help the population, and not the ruling elite, which we saw on the outskirts, well, where is 3 billion dollars?

[Reserve buildbat]

Apparently, over the past three months, the amount of grants has exceeded the amount of all grants for the previous 26 years.
And, as I understand it, this "matchmaker baba babariko" in a white shirt with red suspenders symbolizes the tattered flag of the fascist henchmen? Well, he looks very much like a policeman.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Yes, "batko" is all Belarus, and he turned out to be an idiot and a balabol. , pah on him because FATHER who is my own one.

[Slon_on]

The positive thing about this action is that there is a split in the camp of the Zmagars. And this is good! Tihanovska screamed.

[solzh]

Quote: Slon_on

The positive in this action is that there is a split in the camp of the Zmagars.

As soon as it comes to currency, the pro-Western protesters start to split in their "friendly and united" ranks.