Boroday reacted to Strelkov's words about Donbass as a "garbage dump of the Russian world": an interview with the former head of the DPR

The journalist Diana Kadi recently interviewed the former head of the Donetsk People's Republic Alexander Borodai. The interview touched upon many topics, including the current situation in Donbass, the politics of Vladimir Putin, Belarusian protests, and the possible future of Ukraine.

Alexander Boroday was asked about his attitude to Igor Strelkov's statement that “Donbass is a garbage dump of the Russian world”. In response to this, the former head of the DPR called Strelkov Igor and added that for him he himself is in the "garbage dump of the Russian world", and therefore allows himself such statements.

Former head of the Council of Ministers of the DPR:

Donbass life is not easy. We can say bad. There are great difficulties. But Donbass, like Crimea, wanted and wants to go to Russia. Only Crimea wanted and got such an opportunity, but Donbass wanted and wants, but did not get such an opportunity. Therefore, what are called the republics of Donbass are superstructures, temporary huts, huts, if you like.

Boroday, explaining his point of view, cites the example of a city dweller who was stuck in a forest in bad weather. The former head of the DPR says that this person has to wait out the bad weather where she caught him by surprise. For this, he builds himself a temporary shelter - a hut.

Full version of Alexander Borodai's interview with Diana Kadi:

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[Ross xnumx]

I have a firm conviction that the situation with the entry of the LPNR into Russia depends only on the order of the Kremlin group - otherwise I cannot name the composition of the power structures of Russia that settled (settled, nestled, trapped) by the will of fate in this very Kremlin.
Why do they rule there? For the welfare of the Russians? Horseradish! Can all the "I" be dotted in the alliance agreement with Belarus? Celery in your liver! Probably the Kazakhs decided that the language of the nation that gave and presented them with statehood and sovereignty is more important than the "Latin alphabet"? Celery for your armpit!
Something, probably banal selfish (purely selfish !!!) interests, contribute to the manifestation of a disregard for all the hardships and deprivations of its own Russian population, which has created many problems that cannot be solved at the level of subsistence economy. Listen, the authorities only think about how to increase salaries and pensions, how to provide every citizen of Russia with possible prosperity and a decent living wage, how to improve the quality of medical care and create conditions for the development of regions and replenishment of the ranks of compatriots in a natural way for demography ... Again, carrot in the ear ...
A great achievement was the emergence of a "hero of labor", who received not only the title, but also the opportunity to acquire $ 5. Most importantly, this guy looks not at all haggard. And on the hands of bloody labor calluses are not visible. What can I say, our Russian "heroes of labor", who are able to accumulate millions of dollars around themselves and their own families, have no faces at all disfigured by their intellect ...
I cannot name the exact reasons for such unfriendliness towards the Russians who have found themselves on the wrong side due to administrative forgeries and criminal conspiracy. I do not see absolutely no reason to hinder the admission of these republics to the RF as subjects. But, all my thoughts will remain only in the lines of the site's post.
Declarative documents are accepted elsewhere, from which recently, for any acute problems, one can hear more frequent:

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[BDRM 667]

Quote: ROSS 42

I have a firm conviction that the situation with the entry of the LPNR into Russia depends only on the order of the Kremlin group - otherwise I cannot name the composition of the power structures of Russia that settled (settled, nestled, trapped) by the will of fate in this very Kremlin.

I would define that the delay in the decision to admit the republics to Russia lies in the plane of strife several Kremlin groups, each of which, having their own interests and visions, pulls, tears the Donetsk "blanket" each in their own direction.

A common and key reason why the DPR and LPR have not yet been included as subjects in the Russian Federation is to look back at the "reaction of the West."

[Stas157]

. Crimea wanted and received such an opportunity, and Donbass wanted, wants, but did not receive such an opportunity.

Why is Donbass heavily watered with (Russian) blood not received such an opportunity?

Why, there was no official entry of troops even like Syria (let alone annexation)! Donbass that the Russian base refuses to place or there is absolutely no one to defend, and Russia destroys terrorists exclusively on distant approaches?

Who can answer these simple questions? Probably only the Swiss Burhalter.

... Therefore, what is called the republics of Donbass is superstructures, temporary buildings, huts, if you like.

This is the most interesting thing. Boroday calls the depressive and gray territory of Donbass just a temporary house! Well, why should people wait and how long?

We have heard the Russian answer from the highest official lips. It is one and has not changed for years: there is no alternative to the Minsk agreements. And the Minsk Agreement is a plan to return Donbass to Bandera's Ukraine. And nothing else.

So what Borodai is telling us is not clear. Strelkov's opinion looks more realistic.

[Temples]

Quote: ROSS 42

the entry of the LDNR into Russia depends only on the order of the Kremlin group

Quote: BDRM 667

the decision to admit the republics to Russia lies in the plane of the strife of several Kremlin groups

Quote: Stas157

The Minsk Agreement is a plan to return Donbass to Bandera's Ukraine. And nothing else.

The communists ripped the country apart.
We did it systematically.
The beginning was laid by Kerensky and his shobla, with the support of the British, Germans, and French.
The latter were united in spite of the war among themselves.

The division of Russia along ethnic lines began just then.

The communists, taking the power, continued the business.

New republics were invented.
Who is on the steam locomotive - the republic is the state.

Stalin slowed down the disintegration of Russia a little. Rather, the war forced.

But at the end of the war, Poland and Finland were not returned to Russia.
The straits of the Black Sea, which should have become Russian, were not annexed to Russia either at the end of the First World War or at the end of the second.
Although Stalin could have demanded this and no one could justify the refusal.
Constantinople remained Istanbul.


Only the autocrats strengthened our Rus.

Democracy is a system of the collapse of Russian civilization.

There is a monarchy in England.
In the United States, the power of financial clans. The President of the United States is an appointed member. Elections are a show for cattle.

What will happen next, only God knows.

Donbass should not be accepted into Russia. All Ukraine must be returned.
These are Russian lands. They were washed with Russian blood several times.

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

Quote: BDRM 667

A common and key reason why the DPR and LPR have not yet been included as subjects in the Russian Federation is to look back at the "reaction of the West."

Were all the sanctions imposed early? We imposed them. Then what was in the way, it’s not clear. How the people of Donbass differ from the Crimeans, what kind of segregation is this, I don’t know ...

[Mishanya 74]

What is there not to know?
Political benefit ...
And people are hostages of this

[Insurgent]

Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok

Were all the sanctions imposed early? We imposed them. Then what was in the way, it’s not clear. How the people of Donbass differ from the Crimeans, what kind of segregation is this, I don’t know ...

The question is rhetorical, and I am also "suspended in the air", because I can not answer anything definite.

The correct answer is in the Kremlin.

[Mishanya 74]

What's rhetorical here ..
Also to me, binomial of Newton ..
Everything is just like a white day ..
They made you tolerate, so that our Russian propaganda would point a finger at you and say- * What do you want like in Ukraine? *

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mishanya74

They made you tolerate, so that our Russian propaganda would point a finger at you and say- * What do you want like in Ukraine? *

So we are not the outskirts, we are the Republic! Yes, it's hard, sometimes there is not enough guardianship, but we do not lose heart

* Do you want something like in Ukraine? * - this is about what was once a state , and now it is not understand what.

[Mishanya 74]

To each his own

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mishanya74

To each his own

Here we will agree on this , without your stuffing about "interference" and "shootings".

[Arthur73]

Yes, not everyone!

[Stas157]

Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok

Were all the sanctions imposed early? They imposed them. Then what was in the way is not clear.Than the people of Donbass differ from Crimeans

If they differ, then only in that they defended their land with weapons in their hands. The real Russian world, the Russian Spring, could have started precisely from Donbass and went further across Ukraine (in the South-East for sure, right up to Odessa). It seems to me that the people's aspirations and the socialist nature of the insurgents' sentiments frightened the Kremlin celestials. It was not just that later, the entire "people's freemen" was cleaned up to the bone, eliminating all the people's commanders of Donbass.

Why did they not force the Donbass, I see two options:
1) Frightened will not pull.
2) Just not needed.

[Roman 57 rus]

It seems to me that the adoption of the LDNR into Russia will be postponed until the end of the term of the darkest, and there ... a new state ..., a "new" president, respectively.

[7,62x54]

Do not add, do not take away

[Bersaglieri]

The only question is: why does Russia need the DPR? This same "ballast" will turn out.

[Bersaglieri]

And which "ram" minus? :)

[kris_67]

"depends only on the order of the Kremlin group" - did you just get it? Moreover, Russia LDNR with their killed and plundered industry, flooded mines do not need nafig (freeloaders), only as a bargaining chip in negotiations on the supply of water to Crimea, etc. It is beneficial for the Kremlin to shove all this burden back into Ukraine on its own conditions.

[Mishanya 74]

This is fine of course ..
Two citizens of Russia, have done business on the territory of a neighboring state, and now dumping from there and sitting in comfort and safety in Moscow, they disdainfully pick their offspring with a stick and argue what happened to them - a garbage can or a hut in the forest ..

[Mishanya 74]

And now they will comment and no one will hint about interference in the affairs of another country ..
When the riot police of Belarusians beat and shoot thousands, it is clear that these are all agents of the West and the influence of the West.
And here no ..

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mishanya74

And now they will comment and no one will hint about interference in the affairs of another country ..

You did not mention the name of the country ... But I can assume that it is about the territory of ex-Ukraine.
And if so (am I not mistaken?), What facts of the Russian Federation's intervention at the official level in the case of the lost, can you cite as documentary evidence?
Leave the "facts" about "armored-hoofed hordes", "landings of state officials of the Russian Federation in the DPR and LPR" for domestic use, for it is a whim and manipulation.

What do you think ?

Quote: Mishanya74

That's when the riot police of Belarusians beat and shoots by the thousands- it is clear there, these are all agents of the West and the influence of the West

"Shoots by thousands", I see, you have / will find something to lie

[Mishanya 74]

I wrote-Lupit and shoots ..
I can add, and the pre-trial detention center is sending ..
Do you want to say that all together thousands will not be typed?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mishanya74

I wrote-Lupit and shoots ..
I can add, and the pre-trial detention center is sending ..
Do you want to say that all together thousands will not be typed?

Yasnenko Manipulation of numbers and facts, this is yours

But you also did not answer the question about the facts of Russia's interference in the affairs of ex-Ukraine.

Will you answer, or will we also accept your statements as manipulations and lies?

[Mishanya 74]

No, I won't answer ..
What is the point?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mishanya74

No, I won't answer ..
What is the point?

I assumed you had nothing to cover.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Mishanya74

And now they will comment and no one will hint about interference in the affairs of another country ..

This is yes. I have to stutter. If mattresses and their European sixes did not get into the affairs of Ukraine, then everything would be fine there, without tens of thousands of dead and injured, and, which is important, without territorial losses.

Quote: Mishanya74

That's when the OMON Belarusians beat and shoot thousands- there it is clear, these are all agents of the West and the influence of the West.

Well, finally, you understand that these are not peaceful people, but pro-Western agents are trying to undermine Belarus. Only you were mistaken in terms of thousands of those shot, because even the conditional "heavenly ten" was not shot there. Well, and the fact that the agents of influence of the West in Belarus have not yet been completed is a fact. It is necessary to fill up.

Quote: Mishanya74

And here no ..

What isn't there?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Have two citizens done business on the territory of a neighboring state? Just two? Well, then the neighboring state has no right to exist - two others will come, and then another (which, in principle, we observe) and another ... and everything will be in business. Turd is not a state. It must be dismantled.

[Mishanya 74]

You cannot read or you have difficulty understanding.
I wrote about two citizens who have done deeds AND CONSIDER about what they have done.
One invites people who believed them to live in huts while (most likely the rest of their lives) the other calls them a trash heap.
And mind you, they are not about Ukraine ..

[Sergey Averchenkov]

You wrote one thing, I wrote another. I already wrote, but I will repeat - with any change of power (formation, etc.), scale, dirt, scum will come out. State structures are weakened (if they do not disappear at all) - this is where the freemen for such ... Do you think the Russian Empire in the 17-20s was not a trash heap? And in the 90s, too, not a trash heap? Give them time and everything will settle down. Although you may think that Donbass was in vain? Well, I can’t disagree with the statements here, the Kremlin went nuts, I don’t know what reasons it has for not integrating Donbass into Russia, but it should have been done for a long time. Let it not officially join, but integrate as much as possible. Strelkov and Borodai are revolutionaries, they are people of rallies, troubles - I would not entrust them to organize life in the republics.

[Mishanya 74]

*** with any change of power (formation, etc.), scale, dirt, scum will come out. State structures are weakened (if they do not disappear at all) - this is where the freedom for such ...
Are you talking about Borodai and Girkin right now?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

No, I'm talking about the general situation in the republics since 14.

[Mishanya 74]

*** Well, I can’t disagree with the statements here, the Kremlin went nuts, I don’t know what reasons it has for not integrating Donbass into Russia, but it should have been done a long time ago ***
I can repeat my opinion - because that's why
--->
Everything is just like a white day ..
They made you tolerate, so that our Russian propaganda would point a finger at you and say- * What do you want like in Ukraine? *

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I don't think it's too petty. Besides, I don't like the word terpily in relation to the LPNR.

[Mishanya 74]

I just think .. If you stop thinking in terms of * your stranger * and look objectively, the picture appears unsightly ..
Ukraine had to take revenge ... that's Donbass and take revenge ..
Therefore, they do not take him away, and therefore the people there are terpily-classic * the gentlemen fight and the forelocks of the slaves crack *

[vomag]

Forgive me, I don’t understand, but what should become part of Russia? Two stubs? Until they restore their territorial administrative boundaries, no one will include them anywhere ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: vomag

Forgive me, I don’t understand, but what should become part of Russia? Two stubs? Until they restore their territorial administrative boundaries, no one will include them anywhere ...

The idea is generally correct, but it makes no sense to express it, because most of the "stern-browed" and "all-around-the-minute-minded" stuck at you cons only because, unlike them, you demonstrate the presence of common sense and geopolitical understanding, after which, with a sense of accomplishment, they whirlwind away "swinging swords" in other topics. Now, when half of the territory of Lugansk and Donetsk regions is under the occupation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the recognition of the independence of the remaining territories does not meet the interests of either the republics themselves or Russia, because after the recognition of what exists, it will be daunting to return the rest of the territory under its jurisdiction - they have legally recognized themselves. But this circumstance is absolutely not taken into account by them, as well as the fact what's in the LDNR unlike Crimea, they held a referendum for independence from Ukraine, Crimea for joining Russia, which has different legal and legal consequences. The introduction of troops into the territory of Donbass, on the basis of the results of that referendum, under international law would unequivocally be regarded as an invasion of the territory of an independent state. Only now, when Russia is actively issuing passports of Russian citizens to residents of the LPNR, does it objectively have a reason for a reasonable input of troops to protect them. It is clear that the introduction of troops will not be limited to the part that is controlled by the militia and will be carried out within the boundaries of the administrative territorial division, after which the recognition of full-fledged republics will follow. BUT, apparently, until the time has come for this, although given the fact that the West has arrogantly climbed to dismantle Belarus, it would be possible in response to pinch its interests in the Ukrainian direction, for it is "non-fictitious."

[Avior]

What is there to bend the soul - Strelkov in assessing the situation as of today is much closer to the truth. The republics did not take place as a role model, the standard of living has fallen dramatically, and the prospects are not visible. The industry is decaying over the years, no one will invest, since the status is not defined, it will end with the gradual collapse of everything and everyone. By the way, joining Russia is another question whether it will correct the situation. It is now that the republics have a free hand due to the fact that they are not recognized by anyone, and you cannot impose sanctions against them for this reason, and against Russia, claims and lawsuits will immediately arise in international courts on many issues, including the ownership of enterprises. And how much private traders will invest with the risk of getting similar claims, which in fact severely cut off the possibilities of entering the international market, is another question. In fact, everything will fall on the budget, and the numbers will be very large, and how much it will pull them is also a question. Raise the retirement age for another 5 years and explain to people why? It is doubtful that anyone will agree to this. Rather, they will simply give passports to those wishing to leave, which we are observing in order to alleviate the problem. For the holder of a Russian passport, who has a popular profession and receives 10-15 thousand, moving to Russia is a matter of time. As for the LDNR, pensioners will gradually remain.
So the question arises, what's next?
A hut for 6 years without an intelligible perspective? Isn't it too much for life in a hut, people have one life, they will spend it all their lives in a hut? Did they strive for this? There is no real solution to the problem, so Strelkov's skepticism, although unpleasant, is understandable. It was not for this that everything began to see what happened.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Quote: Mishanya74

I think ... if you stop thinking

No need to run up ... I can add for you that the expression "I do not think" is just a phraseological phrase that means that I do not agree with you (short for "I do not think so"). I can also show you your logical mistake - the LDNR are pro-Russian republics, and point a finger at them, arguing that everything is bad for Russia’s dividends. On the contrary, it is more profitable for us if everything goes well there.

[Mishanya 74]

*** On the contrary, it is more profitable for us if everything goes well there.
Well, it depends on what the task is ..
If we shove them into Ukraine on our own terms, why do we need them well?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

To be honest, I do not believe in the official version of "push on your own terms". But even if the LDNR will become part of Ukraine with a special status, then again it is more profitable for us if Donbass flourishes and the rest of Ukraine sees that it is better with Russia. I saw and made a choice.

[Mishanya 74]

Exactly the same thing I once thought, but now ...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Well ... this is not a tragedy, what you think differently - the truth is born in an argument. :) Goodbye.

[Mishanya 74]

It's not a tragedy for you and me ..
But for those whom these two doomed to choose between a garbage dump and a hut ...

[Jaromir]

Donbass is a lever of pressure on the whole of Ukraine and "EU partners". Therefore, according to the "plan" it needs to be shoved back to Ukraine. Putin categorically - this will not change. Personality trait, I can’t bend my line. This is beneficial for Russia and does not threaten anything. This is the main thing. "Interests of the state". A "turn of the wheel" is awaiting the coming to power in Ukraine of an adequate politician from the South-East, capable of radical measures. Then there will be a treaty on "brotherhood and cooperation" with Russia, more or less acceptable relations. For the current government, death is like that. Then the "peremog" will come, not Ukraine, but Russia. The fuss will take a long time.

[Amba412]

And what is there to attach? Remnants of the territories of the regions that were defended by Russian soldiers at 14? In Donetsk then they thought that in the morning they would drink coffee on the boulevards and read in the newspapers how Russian boys are dying for freedom. From

[Mishanya 74]

That's it, our dear Donetsk residents ..
Nobody needs you ..

[Amba412]

If the Donetsk residents wanted to, then they recaptured their region and held a referendum on joining. And so to rake in the heat with someone else's hands!?!? How many of those Donetsk residents were in the battalions? Until they began to pay money?

[Mishanya 74]

And how many of those Donetsk residents were there?

[Maks1995]

Just recently, the FSB, as it were, prevented an attempt to kidnap former DNR members in Moscow.
And remembering these leaders, as you can see that all these leaders now live, lived in Msskva.
Someone even died on Rublevka, in a restaurant ... The former Head of the LPR is also somewhere in Russia

[private person]

I do not see absolutely no reason to hinder the admission of these republics to the RF as subjects.

And what prevented these republics from staying with Russia during the collapse of the USSR? You can search Wikipedia how they voted, more than 83% for joining Ukraine and 54% for Crimea.

[Plastmaster]

Quote: Temples

Only the autocrats strengthened our Rus.

Strengthened, strengthened and further strengthened. The decay of the elite and the intelligentsia began. Everything is like in the USSR. And it is not Russia that is to blame for this, not the USSR, but the snickering, provoked top. The same is happening with our, present-day Russia, but with complications now the tops are rotten and the intilegence stinks and, in addition, the lower classes are smelling.

[Valter1364]

Unfortunately, we are all in the rubbish dump of the "Russian World". Now I looked at the news about the former governor of the Khabarovsk Territory. Our problem is not in the thousands of Furgals in power. The trouble is that the power itself protects criminals with money. Imagine that Furgala would be prosecuted for participating in the killings after they were committed. But there were witnesses, evidence, etc. Not when the criminal became something not pleasing to the authorities, but when he had to go to jail. Who is scarier, Furgal, or the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor's Office, which took him away from responsibility for money? Where are the names of these non-humans? They are not and never will be! Much worse is not a criminal, but a corrupt government! And how should one despise her in order to go to rallies for a criminal, against this corrupt government? There is no future for the Russian world until the problem of obligatory and inevitable responsibility for what has been done for everyone, no matter what, is solved.

I know that well. On September 4th my son would have turned 25 years old. He died on December 21, 2011 at the age of 16, in our apartment, protecting his mother from robbers. Some of them were graduates of the Novorossiysk branch of the Krasnodar University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. They were ransomed, and the killers escaped responsibility. The fact that I went through all these circles of hell, including the Supreme Court on appeals and cassations, did not affect anything. In the sun sat the same unprincipled and corrupt creatures that covered, at one time, and Furgala.

Someone may think that I'm not in the subject. In the subject, believe me. In the DPR and LPR, the same guild is now running the show.

Those of whom I speak are in every city of our Motherland! They are killing us on the sly.

[Valter1364]

And do not cling to the words of Strelkov. Do not! He's not a poet, not a blogger, or an effective manager. He is a Warrior.

[Oleg133]

THEY hate Russians to the point of pain in their eyes. If this is taken into account, then all the actions of the Russian Federation are quite logical

[Oleg133]

Quote: Valter1364

There is no future for the Russian world until the problem of obligatory and inevitable responsibility for what has been done for everyone, no matter what, is solved.
.

The idea of ​​responsibility of the authorities of the Russian Federation was recognized by the court of the Russian Federation as extremism.

People are already in prison for this ...

[Dedok]

Is there anything else in our politics besides selfish interests?