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Travel of a Soviet schoolchild to Bulgaria in 1968

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View of Golden Sands today


Remember the eyes of hazel
Quiet talk, ringing laughter ...
Nice country is Bulgaria,
And Russia is the best.
M.V. Isakovsky


Memories of the past. This material would have appeared on "VO" without fail, but its appearance was accelerated by one article that appeared on the Internet on one of the sites: "Impressions of a Soviet schoolchild who first traveled abroad of the Indestructible Union" (August 23, 2020). Its author, Dmitry Mogilevsky, talks about how he visited Berlin shortly before the destruction of the Berlin Wall. A small, but very interesting material, in my opinion, which may well serve as ... a preface to my material already.

The events that I will tell you about took place in the spring and summer of 1968, that is, quite a long time ago, at a time when no one even suspected what exactly awaited our country in the future. I was then supposed to turn 14 in the fall, so I was not yet a member of the Komsomol, but wore a pioneer tie, although my height and build was oh-oh!


Here it is, "Instruction for foreign tourists". Preserved since 1968 ...

And it so happened that at the end of 1967, my mother defended her Ph.D. thesis on stories The CPSU at Moscow State University and in the spring of its defense was approved. And once they were approved, they recalculated the entire salary from the day of defense and on the day of approval. And she got on her hands a hefty sum for that time, and even solid vacation pay for the summer loomed. What should I do? Go to the sea to relax! But where?


At one time I had the opportunity to get acquainted with an interesting document: "A memo to a pioneer and a schoolboy", written in the 20s. And it was, in general, a shock: what was written there seemed so wild and ridiculous to me!

Do not take into your mouth what has been in the mouth of another.
Cover your mouth with your hand when coughing.
Do not eat up other people's scraps.
Do not drink from a spring or stream with your mouth to the water.
Wash my hands before meals and after the restroom.
Do not spit on the floor or throw scraps and cleanings on it.
Don't eat unwashed vegetables.
Make sure insects don't get in bed.

So this memo is somewhat similar to her, isn't it? And then all her friends began to talk about the fact that suits and coats made of jersey are now in fashion (the fabric is so pleasant to the touch), but they are very expensive in the flea market: a coat - 300 rubles, and a suit - 150. But for across the border, that is, in the fraternal countries of the socialist community, they cost just a pittance! She went to the Regional Council of Trade Unions (Regional Council of Trade Unions), and there they told her that yes, of course, go, but go to Bulgaria. The first ever group with children is being created in Penza - to have a rest in Golden Sands. And you have a direct benefit to take your son, since currency exchange is also provided for him, however, only 50% of the amount for an adult, but this is also bread. The voucher, however, cost 150 rubles, both for an adult and for a child, regardless of age. It's funny, isn't it? Whatever it was, but my mother figured everything out and the vouchers for herself and for me!


Hotel Berlin in 1968. It exists now, but it has grown a lot ...

The fact that at the beginning of the history of the USSR we had to pay attention to elementary, in general, things, speaks of what kind of "raw materials" in the form of human material we inherited from the tsarist time. And the fact that we managed to overcome this obvious savagery in everyday life rather quickly, during the life of one generation, does honor to our society of those years. But, reading the memo to the Soviet tourist, you involuntarily come to the conclusion that, having risen to the first stage in the field of culture, our citizens were quite late in the second, that is, they needed to be reminded of the most banal things and rules of behavior! In any case, everything that was written about in the "Instruction for foreign tourists", in my opinion, even everything in the same 1968 should be the norm of behavior for any educated person.

And right there, already having vouchers in her arms, my mother faced considerable difficulties. We needed characteristics both for her and for me, and for me not only from the class teacher, but also from the pioneer organization and the party organization of the school !!! When I collected them all, I just grunted ... And again, I would have understood their need before buying a ticket. But here everything was the other way around: purchase first, performance later. And if it turned out that I am an inveterate hooligan, pulling girls by the pigtails, and studying from two to three, then what? We rewind everything: we return the ticket, and they give us money?


Reading this memo, I was very surprised. It seemed to me that everyone knows this, and it is simply indecent to repeat this to adult uncles and aunts.

Anyway. They left my three characteristics with the attachment of grades in all subjects, and gave us a foreign passport, one for two with a joint photo. And the foreign tourist's memo - a very funny little book, reminding that the fork on the table lies on the left (and, therefore, you need to take it with your left hand, and the knife, respectively, with your right and right. And not just given out, but ordered to study everything in it written, remember it well, because we will have an "interview".

There was an "interview", but there is no point in describing it. Vysotsky did it much better. The main thing there was this: “There are spies with a strong body, you are at the door - they are at the window! Say that we have finished with this case long ago. " Or you can even shorter: "Be quiet - the enemy is listening to you!"


For some reason, there were no sun loungers on the beach. Big umbrellas only! It's different now

- So this is Bulgaria! - Someone exclaimed, but received in response the cold gaze of the "comrade from the organs" conducting the interview and a frightening answer:

- That's where they catch such people!

I don’t know how to others, but then I was even scared ... Suddenly I met such a disguised spy - and then what to do?

Before the trip, we were ordered to add up money and buy gifts "from the group" to the guide and the hotel. We bought our Serdobsky cuckoo clock and some kind of table clock with a crystal case. We were warned that we can take with us two bottles of vodka per person, but not more ... Suitcases - only new, and no covers. So we had to work hard to equip ourselves properly and not disgrace the country.

Travel of a Soviet schoolchild to Bulgaria in 1968

Here it is, this crystal gift watch in a crystal case. The top of luxury and elegance at the time

But everything goes away. This too has passed. We got on the train first to Moscow, and in Moscow on the international express Moscow - Sofia and drove off. Everyone immediately got to know each other, made friends and drove merrily. There were only two children of my age, the rest were "big-bellied trifles," so we were all in the carriage.

Then I saw for the first time international class carriages and their passengers, among whom there were other types: wrinkled aunts in beads and with cigarettes in mouthpieces, and respectable men with cigars in their teeth. Everything is like in a movie in the decaying West or in the cartoons of the Kukryniksy. But on the other hand, the curtains are velvet with tassels, the panels are decorated with mahogany ... Who these people who were traveling on the Moscow-Sofia train, I, of course, did not recognize.


The town of Nessebar is a historical monument in Bulgaria. Modern look

At the Ungheni station, we changed the wheels, and while they were changing, all our mothers ran to the local market. But they didn't buy anything, they just asked the price to buy on the way back. They immediately changed our money. Moreover, they demanded to hand over ALL cash, except for the reserve 40 rubles in case of illness. For carrying cash, the head of the group explained to us, you will be punished: the money will be taken away and no more will be released from the country. It is clear that they all passed, but ... some money was nevertheless brought in bras and leggings and then they told their friends about it. And I opened my ears and heard. However, he did not tell the head about this.

We crossed the border at night, and our border guards almost dismantled the whole carriage for nuts, so they were looking for everything. They did not rummage in things, but some were asked to open their suitcases, and one woman was found to have 80 rubles unaccounted for and confiscated. So there was no need to let her tongue loose. For it is said: what two know, the pig also knows!


Houses in Nessebar have not changed at all since that time!

We didn't like the Romanian border guards who replaced ours. In black uniform, they speak abruptly, they demand to do everything quickly. Moreover, the whole train at the border was doused with some smelly disinfectant liquid. “We are with them with soul, and they are with us? - they said in our carriage. - And after all they spray only there, when we go back, they will not spray! "

The country itself did not like it either. All the poor, "bad" men in shabby jackets, boots and caps - most of all looked like our gypsies. Women are generally in black from head to toe. But it was funny to watch their boys running after the train and shouting: "Badges, badges!", And we throw them badges, and they pick them up, and immediately fight, taking them away from each other.
There was an hour parking in Bucharest, but we were not allowed to leave the station, and we did not have any Romanian money.


The Pirateska Frigata restaurant is very popular in the Sunny Beach resort. For some reason, in 2013 it was burned ...

But on the Bulgarian border we were greeted by a pancake-shiny smiling border guard in a green cap, white (!) Tunic and green trousers with stripes - just some kind of operetta type. I checked our passports and wished us a happy holiday.

We had to go not only on a narrower track, but also on a locomotive traction. And since there were only three Moscow-Varna carriages left of our entire train, we drove entirely in smoke. Where is the electric locomotive or diesel locomotive? And there are none!


Or this: "Do not try to put food on the plate of your neighbor or neighbor that they refuse." What is this? From the experience of our citizens' stay abroad, it became known that they do this? "You need to chew with your mouth closed." Oh, really someone did not know this in 1968! And it turns out that he did not know ...

We arrived in Varna in the evening. We were met by a girl Ivanka, a student at the Sofia University who studied Russian philology, and in the summer she worked as a guide. And immediately the first unusual impression: all our suitcases were thrown on the roof of the Pautalia bus and taken to Golden Sands, or Zlatni Piasts in Bulgarian. From above in the twilight they looked fantastic: a horseshoe-shaped bay, leaving, like an amphitheater, into the mountains, everything is flooded with lights, and on the shore there are "candles" of hotels: "Moscow" (glowed red), "Astoria" (gold), "Starfish" (emerald green) and in the distance - a bluish-cold "Berlin". It is clear that we hoped to get into one of these hotels, but Ivanka brought us to the two-story hotel "Iglika" ("Flower"), all entwined with grapes and located in a pine forest. “It's noisy in there,” she said. - The elevators are buzzing all the time. And we have a group with children - have a rest! " And then she took us through the forest to the restaurant "Cherven Rak" to have supper. Recently I read on the Internet that it is considered the best restaurant in Golden Sands, but many visitors from Russia did not like it: the steps of the stairs are broken, and inside there is a “Soviet” interior and inattentive staff.


In Varna, where we went on an excursion, I really liked the Naval Museum. Small (like the Bulgarian naval history itself!), But very interesting. But most of all - their "legendary" destroyer "Daring" standing in dry dock (mind you, don't write about it to anyone - it's swept away!)

However, then they did not even think about anything like that. They put our entire group in a separate room and began to feed, and in a way that I had never eaten anywhere before. Firstly, on the table, served for four, there was a liter bottle of dry wine "Byalo Vinny", then dishes with vinegar, olive oil, and something else ... And secondly, we were served one whole tomato together with salad and served like this the same in the future. Huge, I have not seen such! And it was necessary to cut it, equip it with oil and vinegar, salt, pepper and eat. Then the French fries langette and the absolutely amazing coffee cake were served. By the way, for all 14 days of our stay there, we received the same cake again only twice. And so every evening there was a new one! But the bread was only white, reminiscent of our roll!


These cannons were fired from him! And today they let him in! And they are allowed to go down inside. What a pity that this was not possible in 1968

We got a room on the first floor. It was a large room with a writing desk, secretaire and two beds with bedside tables and table lamps. The window is huge, the entire wall, and there is a door to the balcony. Conveniences - behind the wall, including the bidet, which I saw for the first time, but there was no bath. There was a shower. For today it would have been a 3-star room, no more, but then it seemed to us just gorgeous.


My first material souvenir from Bulgaria. I bought it for my mother in Nessebar. An exact copy of the head of Aphrodite found there

In the morning I was surprised by the breakfast. More salad from a huge tomato, scrambled eggs from two eggs right in a sizzling pan, no wine and a cup of coffee along with some kind of dry biscuits. “It’s accepted! - Ivanka explained to me. "They eat well for dinner!"


It seemed to me that it was possible and necessary to warn Soviet citizens "there" about giving a tip, since it is not customary for us, about how to eat spaghetti, at that time I did not even know what it was ... But to remind adults that a fork hold in the left hand, and the knife in the right ...

We returned to the hotel to go to the beach, and there our ladies were in satin robes over swimsuits. Ivanka saw this, was frightened, waved her hands at them:

- Take it off, it's only at home! Go like this ...

It was very surprising and interesting for us, but we got lost and went. Ahead is Ivanka in a white blouse, black skirt and stockings, and then all of us, including our rather strong aunts in swimsuits, and separate ones. But look, people around are dressed the same way. "How about the store?" - "And!" - "How to measure clothes?" - "And there are fitting samples!" But you must dress for lunch in a restaurant. You can't even wear shorts! In general, there were many surprising things.

She took us to the beach and pointed out our fungi. Only here, nowhere else!

There were no sun beds then. You could lie right on the sand, which was cleaned every early morning with a special machine. By one o'clock in the afternoon we were so hungry that together we ran to change for lunch. We were served with bell pepper soup, which I have cooked regularly at home since then, and a pot of meat and porridge. Again, mineral water and wine. I was lucky that as a couple two strange girls were put at our table as a couple, who were shy and were more silent than talking. They refused to drink "Byalo blame", and the whole liter bottle began to go to my mother and me. Both for lunch and dinner!

We ate, and we were so tired that everyone went to their rooms to sleep and slept until four or five o'clock. And then, of course, we ran to the shops. And what was not there! Souvenirs, dishes (I really liked the painted clay service in the national style, but it cost 24 levs, and we did not buy it). By the way, a lion at that time was worth more than a ruble. For 100 rubles we were given 70 leva, so for two we had 105 leva for everything - both pleasure and shopping.

To be continued ...
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  1. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 05: 06
    +7
    Why, Shpakovsky fell into nostalgilia ...
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 5 September 2020 05: 53
      13
      Ага.

      They refused to drink "blame", and the whole liter bottle began to go to my mother and me. Both for lunch and dinner!

      With my mother, I swelled!)))

      By the way, watches were completely ordinary, and did not constitute any luxury then. My grandmother had exactly those. Now I took them (memory of my grandmother). I can show you a photo.

      In general, given the negative attitude of Shpakovsky to the USSR, praises about some kind of good life in the Union should not be expected from Shpakovsky.

      But, overall, I like this author for his historical articles.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 08: 09
        +5
        The USSR gave out millions of watches for export.
        1. bandabas
          bandabas 5 September 2020 16: 37
          +3
          By the way, in the USSR they made quite good and reliable watches. Both tabletop and wrist.
        2. BAI
          BAI 5 September 2020 18: 28
          +3
          A lecturer on Marxism-Leninism, officially stated to us: The Swiss buy watches from the 2nd Moscow Watch Factory ("Slava"), the cases are thrown away, and the watch mechanisms are inserted into their watches and sold like theirs.
    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 5 September 2020 10: 21
      +1
      is getting old ..... this property of the elderly, apparently, that it was yesterday poorly remembers, and that in 1968 in detail)))
  2. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 5 September 2020 05: 39
    +6
    Interesting reading for the weekend.
    It's just funny to read about the difficulties and adventures of Soviet citizens. It was not for nothing that V.S. Vysotsky's song appeared at that time:

    The most unpleasant episode of pre-trip turmoil is
    And right there, already having vouchers in her arms, my mother faced considerable difficulties. We needed characteristics both for her and for me, and for me not only from the class teacher, but also from the pioneer organization and the party organization of the school !!! When I collected them all, I just grunted ...

    I remember how all these characteristics not only "gave the right", but also "fundamentally broke" the fate and future of people.
    Everything has been said, and there will be a continuation ... I will only express my own opinion, which was formed during the reading.
    Sometimes the impression was created that: "The mice cried, injected, but continued to eat the cactus."
    Once, three mice got tired of hiding from the fox, who strove to have supper with them, and they decided to become hedgehogs. They went for advice to a wise owl. ... They found a miracle cucumber and began to eat it. The cucumber was pricked, but they knew that they would soon become hedgehogs ... The cunning owl deceived them and the poor mice cried, injected, but continued to eat the cactus ...

    I remember with what sense of superiority Soviet citizens shared with their "inexperienced views of foreign countries" their compatriots their memories of ... and knowledge of the customs of the peoples of the CMEA countries. Singling out at least something from the "gray" life of society gave great self-satisfaction. Even an episode in the film "Office Romance" about what Samokhvalov saw there and that he smoked, only emphasizes the envy of his colleagues for the opportunities they do not have.
    Uncle traveled to Poland in the early 70s and concluded that visiting is good, but home is better.
    It was different. And the question: "Why did they have everything (shower, bidet), and we were content with a washstand and a hole in the wooden floor?" - did not dare.
    BUT!!! Today this can be remembered with a grin ... If there are enough banknotes.
    1. Unknown
      Unknown 5 September 2020 13: 06
      -4
      the same, already having vouchers in hand, my mother faced considerable difficulties. We needed characteristics both for her and for me, and for me not only from the class teacher, but also from the pioneer organization and the party organization of the school !!! When I collected them all, I just grunted ... ...... yes they know how to breach, at first they gave vouchers, but only before leaving, they asked for the characteristics ..... yeah. it was a cool school if there was a party organization in it. I wonder who was it? Well, let's say the director, the head teacher, maybe, and who else? would have written from the party organization rono, it would have been more truthful.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 7 September 2020 09: 54
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        Quote: Unknown
        Yeah. it was a cool school if there was a party organization in it.

        Come on, the primary party organizations in Soviet times were in ordinary general education schools. You can type in Yandex "Primary Party Organizations of Secondary General Education Schools"- a list of archival cases for different regions will immediately drop out.
        Quote: Unknown
        I wonder who was it? Well, let's say the director, the head teacher, maybe, and who else?

        Director, head teacher, history teacher - 100% should have been. In our school, the teacher of history and social science was the party organizer. For partisanship in science belongs to historical science to the greatest extent, and only a faithful member of the party, sincerely devoted to the cause of Marxism-Leninism and proletarian internationalism. smile
        1. Unknown
          Unknown 7 September 2020 14: 36
          -2
          I repeat, do not lie so brazenly. I also studied at the Soviet school in 1971-79, and did not see it as a party organization. pioneer, Komsomol, and that's it. the teachers were all young and could only be members of the Komsomol. director, but a physical education instructor, here are all the party members. and where was it at school taught social science with its "three whales": "Foundations of Marxist-Leninist philosophy", "Foundations of Marxist political economy" and "Foundations of scientific communism"? I really went to vocational school after school, but the curriculum was the same at school and there. so I don’t remember that we studied the foundations of Marxism-Leninism. But on the other hand, I remember well the political commanders in the army, and the party organizers in production, there were different good ones, and those who said one thing, but made a completely different name for them - shape-shifters. Where the wind blows there and they. and so, the author of the article is one of them. all writing is designed for those who have not lived in the union. only former party functionaries hate the party they were part of. how does is called?
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 7 September 2020 18: 38
            0
            Quote: Unknown
            the teachers were all young and could only be members of the Komsomol. director, but a physical education instructor, here are all the party members.

            Well. Most of our teachers were over forty.
            Quote: Unknown
            and where was it at school taught social science with its "three whales": "Foundations of Marxist-Leninist philosophy", "Foundations of Marxist political economy" and "Foundations of scientific communism"?

            9-11 grade. We also studied the materials of the XNUMXth Party Congress. smile
            1. Unknown
              Unknown 8 September 2020 10: 03
              -1
              what do you say, so all over 40? and everyone was in the party? Well, probably, too, like the author's, the school is special, so to speak with a party bias. The materials of the congress were studied, this is in 1986 with a hunchback? tell such things to young people who know life in the USSR from the fables of Solzhenitsyn, they will believe it, but I don't need it. to us in the vocational school the materials of the congress, which was in 1981, I don’t remember which one was not included in the training program at all, although in your opinion they should have been, because the working class was trained, there was a young shift, so to speak. but there was not, and there was a congress for 5 years later, with a good Leonid Ilyich, they heard, decided, accepted, that's the whole story, but we need to learn, to master professions. 1986, the hunchback was already driving, and everything went to hell. what materials of the congress, if smoke and vodka disappeared from the shelves, what are you talking about. Who needed them then. for us hard workers, yes the hunchback went, along with them, in three letters. but you have a special school, all the same they taught.
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 September 2020 05: 51
    +7
    Oh, thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    I thought that the trip to “Artek” was not enough for me to "complete stuffing" in childhood. But I didn't even think about Bulgaria. If I had gone to the "golden sands", I probably would not have dreamed of an international camp!)))
  4. Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 06: 24
    -1
    Great story.
    I was also in Bulgaria for the first time abroad in 1990. But only in a student construction brigade collecting tobacco at the Obnova state farm near Plovdiv. And it turned out to be on the sea. I was very worried about this. In 1991, even before the State Emergency Committee, he managed to visit Italy as part of a student exchange.

    Then he managed to repulse everything. Already visited over 190 countries, including colonies, partially recognized countries, overseas departments and territories. It is good that socialism has come to a "cap" and you can go anywhere! After all, the coordination of trips in Soviet times was a real test. After all, trips to the capital country were made out much more difficult than, for example, to Bulgaria. Therefore, if the collapse of the USSR is upsetting, then the demise of the CPSU only pleases.

    In this sense, the story about childhood impressions of a trip to Bulgaria is very indicative. Thanks to the author, and we look forward to continuing.
    1. apro
      apro 5 September 2020 06: 27
      +9
      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      It is good that socialism has come to a "cap" and you can go anywhere!

      Is everyone good?
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 06: 33
        -13 qualifying.
        Those who feel bad from the death of socialism are enemies of the people. Let them feel bad both in this world and in that world.
        1. apro
          apro 5 September 2020 08: 16
          +8
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          Those who feel bad from the death of socialism are enemies of the people. Let them feel bad both in this world and in that world.

          If you think this is normal, then I think let it be bad for the enemies of socialism.
        2. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 5 September 2020 10: 23
          +7
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          Those who feel bad from the death of socialism are enemies of the people. Let them feel bad both in this world and in that world.

          Have you thought well about what you wrote? Maybe you can read it again and think about it?
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 5 September 2020 13: 36
            +6
            There is nothing to think with. There is a bone.
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 September 2020 12: 51
          +3
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          Those who feel bad from the death of socialism are enemies of the people. Let them feel bad both in this world and in that world.

          So frankly? laughing good Good for you!
        4. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 5 September 2020 13: 35
          +3
          Those who feel bad from the death of socialism are enemies of the people.

          Naturally, enemies. But what kind of people?
        5. kalibr
          6 September 2020 12: 15
          +1
          Alexander! Judging by the + and - for their articles, the number of those who are "for" and those who are "against" is about 50% to 50. Aren't there many enemies of the people? Every second? Maybe the "enemies" are just these, and not "those", eh? Think ...
        6. Roman070280
          Roman070280 7 September 2020 10: 14
          0
          Society, or society, is a human community, the specificity of which is the relationship of people with each other, their forms of interaction and association ..
          Society cannot a priori be an enemy of itself ..
          But those Losers who do not know about this, or know, but deliberately distort the facts - these are the very enemies of the people / society ..
      2. kalibr
        6 September 2020 12: 13
        +2
        Oleg! EVERYONE WILL NEVER BE GOOD! 80% of people feel bad about themselves!
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 7 September 2020 10: 20
          +1
          Law of energy conservation..))
          There are 20 "points" .. You can distribute to 10 people .. and everyone is good .. Although someone will say that they all feel bad .. But this will only say either a fool or someone who wants him to get half of it. . a couple more confidants a decent part .. and the rest of the people are not important ..
          And then those who feel good are much less .. but they are sooo good .. Which, when multiplied, gives the initial level of happiness ..
          You can also remember about stuffed cabbage ..))
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 5 September 2020 06: 43
      12
      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      It's good that socialism has come to its "cover" and you can go anywhere!

      Well, the priorities in your life! What is the most important thing not to get out of the border? In China, Xi and the Communist Party officially announced that they were building socialism... The Chinese do not have any restrictions in terms of travel. Therefore, Socialism is not equal to self-isolation. It's just an exaggeration in a single country.
      There were various excesses in the USSR (now they are not there?), But, as we see from the article, it was possible to leave.

      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      Already visited over 190 countries

      Did you find happiness? Or what were you looking for there?))

      Personally, I have only visited a dozen countries. You know, further collecting does not even pull. It's better at home.

      Yes. You forget the main point. The poor population (by world standards) of the Russian Federation has a limited opportunity to enjoy touring. And in the USSR they went to the sea more often. And longer.
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 08: 27
        -2
        By the way, about happiness - many people understand it differently. But for me, happiness is not only health, a house full of a bowl, a good job or a profitable business, kids and recognition in society, but also the ability to have a pleasant, full-fledged rest. Constant travel up to old age and weakness - I would like to keep this for myself.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 September 2020 12: 54
          0
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          By the way, about happiness - many people understand it differently. But for me, happiness is not only health, a house full of a bowl, a good job or a profitable business, kids and recognition in society, but also the ability to have a pleasant, full-fledged rest. Constant travel up to old age and weakness - I would like to keep this for myself.

          Happiness is freedom. Incl. movement hi
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 5 September 2020 15: 29
            +3
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Happiness is freedom. Incl. movement

            ===
            happiness is family, friends. well-being and health of one's own and loved ones
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 5 September 2020 15: 33
              +5
              I agree - incl.
              And absolutely successful, independent children
            2. Victorio
              Victorio 5 September 2020 15: 46
              +2
              Quote: Victorio
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Happiness is freedom. Incl. movement

              ===
              happiness is family, friends. well-being and health of one's own and loved ones

              ======
              I will add that the USSR was a kind of big family, which is why we, many, remember it with warmth.
              1. Aleksandr1971
                Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 17: 02
                +3
                Both my grandfathers and both grandmothers were dispossessed in this large family, although they were simple, not very rich peasants and completely outside politics, who did not understand a damn thing about it. But only politics came to them in this large family, took away their poor property and evicted them to Siberia, to the Krasnoyarsk Territory in 1937. At the same time, half of my relatives, also peasants, simply died of hunger. And my grandparents were lucky, they survived. For example, one of the grandmothers worked as a raft runner on the Angara. This gave her a piece of bread and salvation from hunger. True, her shoulder was broken with a log, and after exile and until the end of her life, she could not raise her right hand. This was probably happiness in the USSR! Probably this is what health is, these are absolutely successful children, these are travel!
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio 5 September 2020 17: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: Aleksandr1971
                  Both my grandfathers and both grandmothers were dispossessed in this large family, although they were simple, not very rich peasants and completely outside politics, who did not understand a damn thing about it.

                  ===
                  So what!? vilify everything and everyone, be responsible for yourself, not for everyone.
                  ps great-grandfather, along the line of his grandmother, and his five brothers with their families were exiled to Siberia during the dispossession of the Cossacks, only the grandmother returned with her little brother.
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                3. BAI
                  BAI 5 September 2020 18: 32
                  +4
                  Mother-in-law, as a child, as a member of the family of an enemy of the people, was expelled from the Moscow region to Kazakhstan. But nevertheless, he has no claims to the USSR. Although she did not have a weak journey.
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                      1. Aleksandr1971
                        Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 18: 07
                        -1
                        Actually an article about travel. And travel is not possible without money. Big travel requires a lot of money. For a salary of 17 thousand rubles. - not enough for travel.
                      2. Victorio
                        Victorio 5 September 2020 19: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Aleksandr1971
                        Actually article

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                        there is also about the article [at] / Victorio (Victor) 1 Today, 14:51 /[/ U]
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                1. Aleksandr1971
                  Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 18: 03
                  +1
                  Rather than scattering insults, it is better to learn how to make money, and not envy successful people. Then there will be travel for you. Capitalism is a system in which smart, courageous people achieve results, and the weak and lazy go down.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 18: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: Aleksandr1971
                    better learn how to make money, and not envy successful people.

                    Are you successful? Well ... fool
                    1. Aleksandr1971
                      Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 18: 11
                      +1
                      Judging by the fact that your finances are dumb, and despite the fact that I allow myself to teach my daughter in the USA, first in a private school, and now in college .... The conclusion is clear.
                    2. Rosko
                      Rosko 8 September 2020 15: 06
                      0
                      The conclusion is that you are just another huckster or an amateur to cut the gos.bablo .. successful. Such "successful" destroyed all factories, factories, etc. and so on so that their "stubs" could study in their favorite capital countries. Judas deserving their aspen bitches.
                2. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 7 September 2020 10: 29
                  0
                  smart, brave

                  I would say - arrogant and adventurous .. as well as - close and thieving ..
                  If we were in power smart and brave - there would not be a country in such a cesspool ..
                3. Rosko
                  Rosko 8 September 2020 15: 03
                  0
                  That is why you would go ... hucksters ... with your capitalism away, and leave us our dear socialism ..
                  1. Aleksandr1971
                    Aleksandr1971 8 September 2020 15: 11
                    -1
                    Life gave socialism a kick in 1991. So now all the adherents of socialism are kicked in the ass.

                    Now is the 21st century, the century of capitalism. Judging by the photo, you are still a young man. I ask you not to stay in the past and do not descend in the race of life. With power and money, those who do not sit idly by, but work hard and compete for a place in the sun.

                    There is only one life. It’s bad to spend your whole life with a penny in your pocket. The article was about travel. You yourself understand that good travel costs good money. And you can't earn good money for an average salary.
                  2. Esoteric
                    Esoteric 8 September 2020 17: 01
                    +1
                    Well, since the age of capitalism, you want salaries as well as under capitalism. Something I think that a simple hard worker on the same "Boeing" can afford to go to any. country of the world, and educate your children.
                    For this he does not have to "undertake", it is enough for him to do the work on the machine.
          2. BAI
            BAI 5 September 2020 18: 34
            +4
            1971 - how do I understand the year of birth? The younger the blogger, the worse his life under Stalin.
            1. Aleksandr1971
              Aleksandr1971 6 September 2020 04: 51
              +1
              These are the grandmothers who say that under Stalin they lived well, because men loved them, and because their backs did not hurt.

              Let me remind you that we are discussing an article on travel. The author of the article brought back pleasant memories from his trip to Bulgaria in 1968. And it allows readers to make comparisons with the present. Now in our capitalist Russia, traveling can be even more frequent and even more pleasant.
              1. kalibr
                6 September 2020 12: 21
                +1
                Quote: Aleksandr1971
                These are the grandmothers who say that under Stalin they lived well, because men loved them, and because their backs did not hurt.

                And they were also famously rolled around the hayloft, because where else? But still the thrill!
              2. Esoteric
                Esoteric 8 September 2020 17: 04
                +1
                And we have capitalism?
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 6 September 2020 12: 36
          +1
          Quote: Victorio

          I will add that the USSR was a kind of big family, which is why we, many, remember it with warmth.

          A very weak family, as it turned out
    3. kalibr
      6 September 2020 12: 17
      0
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Happiness is freedom. Incl. movement

      Exactly! "And when freedom is around, everyone is his own king!" (Cain 18)
      1. Aag
        Aag 6 September 2020 21: 59
        +1
        According to some of your publications, you were sympathetic to me ... However, childhood and youth memories also deserve respect, but the social gap is already noticeable ... hi
        1. kalibr
          7 September 2020 06: 13
          +1
          Quote: AAG
          But, the social gap is already noticeable ...

          There is always someone who breaks away. And the rest are attached to the back. And there are those who leave the race. It has always been and will be!
          1. Aag
            Aag 7 September 2020 07: 39
            0
            I agree ... Only with an addition, clarification: separation does not always mean forward. Unfortunately, with the current "braces", we are all ... who are where ... crumble.
          2. Esoteric
            Esoteric 8 September 2020 17: 08
            +1
            Your answer inspired thoughts of a certain lady with "cakes".
    4. Captain45
      Captain45 6 September 2020 21: 38
      +5
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Happiness is freedom. Incl. movement

      As I remember: "What is happiness, everyone understood in his own way, but everyone knew that you need to love and protect your homeland, which is called the Soviet country." A. Gaidar "Chuk and Gek"
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 6 September 2020 22: 38
        +2
        They knew. Not saved. For they wanted freedom. Incl. movement.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 08: 16
    10
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    It is good that socialism has come to a "cap" and you can go anywhere!

    In the USSR, I refused a free trip to Crimea. Now I can't go anywhere, because finance is dumb.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 08: 23
      -9
      If finance is dumb, then they need to be earned.

      Finance is such a thing that exists now, but not tomorrow. But the day after tomorrow, after successful work, finances are back. The general economic situation is not conducive to earning money now. But this does not mean that it will always be so. I am 50 years old, I work, travel, read the press and see that millionaires appeared yesterday, appear now, and I understand that millionaires will appear tomorrow. I would not like to be among the poor when there are opportunities to become a millionaire.

      Why not become one of the millionaires, if not now, then tomorrow? Then all countries will be open to you, and Crimea and everything else.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 08: 26
        10
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Why not become one of the millionaires, if not now, then tomorrow?

        Maybe because I have a conscience? And I never licked anyone's ass.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 09: 28
          -6
          There is not conscience, but laziness.
          Laziness interferes with doing business, making good money, and all sorts of derivatives from laziness - lack of initiative, cowardice, irresponsibility, lack of will, etc.

          And in business, nobody needs to lick their ass. Business is not a civil service, where you have to bend over to your boss. You are confusing business with government service. Although, unfortunately, many people in Russia think that the civil service is a business.

          In business, other qualities of character are required - hard work, initiative, the ability to see opportunities, responsibility, willpower, etc.

          As a child, in 1980, my parents gave me a wonderful collection of "Countries and Peoples" in 20 volumes. I reread it constantly so that I almost remembered it by heart. And I dreamed that when I grow up, I will visit all these countries. It is clear that with a scoop, this dream would not have come true, for a boy from a simple family from Siberia.

          In the 90s, I did not take part in the thieves' privatization. I made money with my mind. I also taught, because I like not only to acquire knowledge, but also to share knowledge. The business made it possible to earn both a home and a good supply of children and travel. This opportunity was provided not only to me, but also to a host of other good people.

          Surely many in childhood have dreams of long journeys and other good deeds. It is important to be able to fulfill these childhood dreams.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 09: 35
            +5
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            There is not conscience, but laziness.
            Laziness interferes with doing business, making good money, and all sorts of derivatives from laziness - lack of initiative, cowardice, irresponsibility, lack of will, etc.

            Shit! Are you so justifying, or what?
          2. Rosko
            Rosko 8 September 2020 15: 10
            0
            Aleksandr1971
            You're just another underground Koreiko ...
            1. Aleksandr1971
              Aleksandr1971 8 September 2020 17: 09
              -1
              I'm not rich at all. And because of my age, I probably won't be, although I see examples, including among my close friends, when older people also became ruble billionaires. I would like to become a rich man myself in the full sense of the word. But I am glad at least that I was not among the poor.
              Why live? For the sake of happiness, which is not in money, but it is impossible without money.
              I travel 100-200 days a year. It is impossible without money.
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            3. Aleksandr1971
              Aleksandr1971 9 September 2020 11: 25
              0
              I looked at all of yours, Rosko, 28 comments.

              However, you do not have a single article.
              All your comments are flooding or insults in plain text. Insults and flooding - this is the purpose of your stay on the forum. I'm waiting for the moderator's reaction.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 September 2020 12: 58
          0
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          Why not become one of the millionaires, if not now, then tomorrow?

          Maybe because I have a conscience? And I never licked anyone's ass.

          What is the conscience? Doom loved ones to exist instead of life? Not licked, you say? They just understood that it was unprofitable for the boss to heat the premises, providing you with human working conditions, and calmly swallowed such an explanation - but did not lick lol
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 18: 03
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Doom loved ones to exist instead of life? Not licked, you say?

            You can not understand.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 5 September 2020 18: 12
              0
              Of course not to understand. But why should other people hang labels? For the fact that they fit, unlike you, into a new (almost thirty years old, for a minute) reality? Vodka merchant - so ...? At least condoms - how are you better than him?
              1. Victorio
                Victorio 5 September 2020 19: 16
                +6
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Of course not to understand. But why should other people hang labels? For the fact that they fit, unlike you, into a new (almost thirty years old, for a minute) reality? Vodka merchant - so ...? At least condoms - how are you better than him?

                ===
                he's just not a vodka seller, and not a condom seller
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 5 September 2020 19: 53
                  0
                  And still not a trainer in a circus and not a cellist fellow
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 22: 40
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            They just understood that it is unprofitable for the boss to heat the room, providing you with human conditions

            Fig you guessed it. He did not heat the room. In the morning he warmed up the machines with a cutter. Human conditions? From gloves, steam fell at minus twenty, and
            legs like wooden. With three pairs of socks. I sent this freak in three letters.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 5 September 2020 23: 24
              -1
              Good boy! And now you've found yourself a good boss?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 23: 29
                +2
                I've already sent three bosses in three letters. I respect myself. I wonder, Krasnodar, what would you do if you were offered a salary of four thousand rubles a month?
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 6 September 2020 00: 10
                  +4
                  Just like you - I would thank you for the generous offer and offer yourself a month to live on five thousand rubles laughing
                2. Esoteric
                  Esoteric 8 September 2020 19: 16
                  +1
                  It looks like my case. Then the question arose of what, in fact, exist. Helped to create a site, I write there on the topic reflected in the nickname. I even have a little more than at that job. On the plus side, I don't see the face of modern entrepreneurs and employers. Of the minuses - I like to work with my hands, on my favorite machine.
                3. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 29 September 2020 07: 03
                  +1
                  Did you do it if you were offered a salary of four thousand rubles a month?

                  again this wretchedness Mordvin moans that her low-skilled "work" is low paid by the employer. Everything seems to him that his work lazy nose-picking should be well paid. And how much - he himself has no idea.
        3. kalibr
          6 September 2020 12: 22
          -1
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Maybe because I have a conscience? And I never licked anyone's ass.

          Conscience can and is. No mind!
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    2. BAI
      BAI 5 September 2020 18: 37
      +5
      In the USSR, I refused a free trip to Crimea.

      And I was planning a trip to Yugoslavia, From the Komsomol. But the USSR collapsed and the trip was covered.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 5 September 2020 10: 48
    +2
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    It is good that socialism has come to a "cap" and you can go anywhere!

    Just the same bad. Yes, and we have not really built socialism. Unfortunately.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 07: 10
    -4
    [quote = Stas157]
    Well, the priorities in your life! What is the most important thing not to get out of the border? In China, Xi and the Communist Party officially announced that they were building socialism... The Chinese do not have any restrictions in terms of travel. Therefore, Socialism is not equal to self-isolation. It's just an exaggeration in a single country.
    In the USSR there were various excesses (now they are not there or what?), But, as we see from the article, it was possible to leave. [/ Quote]

    The USSR is a big inhuman exaggeration, although one cannot but admit that there were good things in the USSR. As the grandmothers say, under Stalin it was good, because men loved them and their back did not hurt.

    And Xi Qin Ping is lying about socialism and does not take money. There is no socialism in China. I hope that you too understand that this is a lie.

    [quote = Alexander1971] Already visited more than 190 countries [/ quote]
    Did you find happiness? Or what were you looking for there?))

    Personally, I have only visited a dozen countries. You know, further collecting does not even pull. It's better at home.

    Yes. You forget the main point. The poor population (by world standards) of the Russian Federation has a limited opportunity to enjoy touring. And in the USSR they went to the sea more often. And longer. [/ Quote]

    Now the population of the Russian Federation can at least get out of poverty by creating their own business. I, too, was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, but earned money on travel for myself and not only for travel. And I do not live in Moscow, where the standard of living is quite European, but in the modest Altai Territory. So you are wrong in this thesis as well.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 5 September 2020 07: 37
      +2
      Yes. You forget the main point. The poor population (by world standards) of the Russian Federation has a limited opportunity to enjoy touring. And in the USSR they went to the sea more often. And longer.
      What are you saying) we have buses and pleasure boats dashing to China. vouchers cost a penny. people just rode there for the weekend. for 15 mowers you can hit the road for 5 days somewhere on the peach hills. a bunch of tours to Europe for 300-500 bucks. this damn unbearable money just to take a rest to go. you spend three times more on beer a year. to go to the sea more often? what nonsense? I can now do this at will and not by the availability of permits at a certain moment.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 5 September 2020 08: 22
        12
        Quote: carstorm 11
        what a nonsense?

        This is not delusion, but reality.

        In the USSR, sea recreation for people was much more affordable. Travel, meals. We went not for a week, as now, but for a whole month. And more people traveled. If then a trip to the sea (Black) was available for any family in the middle lane, now this is far from the case. Those who find funds for this have to work for this for a whole year. This is the general picture, no matter what examples (about China) you slip.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 5 September 2020 08: 31
          -1
          I spent my childhood at sea with my parents twice. TWO!!! in Evpatoria in late autumn and in Sochi. my daughter, born in 11, has been on the seas and oceans twice a year for 9 years of her life. every year I will notice. starting from Guam and ending with Crimea. the trip is available now much more. I repeat that vouchers and tours are dark and they cost very little. let's mark this year of course viral. normal people are planning a vacation. buy in advance to make it even cheaper. and someone just takes hot tours for a penny. in the Soviet Union the only choice was Black Sea for a normal holiday. well, we also have Japanese in the season. Now the whole damn world. physically impossible to rest in the Union was often at sea. there are no rubber possibilities. limited. as herring in a barrel, the rest was called in the Union in the season. it's not just awful, it's stupidly ugly.


          is it your vacation? Seriously? for me this is survival in wild discomfort.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 5 September 2020 11: 03
            11
            Quote: carstorm 11
            I am for all my childhood I was at sea with my parents twice. TWO!!!

            And this means that in the USSR, vacation at sea was not available? What is the objection, do not understand? Do you think the whole USSR lived according to your template? And here you are, Dmitry? To listen to you like that in the USSR, you had a solid black band, but now just manna fell from heaven! If this is true, believe me, the majority had exactly the opposite.

            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            Consequently, recreation in the USSR was less affordable than it is now.

            Not. See statistics. In the USSR, people rested at sea more often than they can now afford in Russia. Travel a penny. Food too. Compared to the highly speculative resort prices at the moment.
            And at the expense of resting abroad, you are of course right. But, a person with an average salary or pension cannot afford all this. An essential point. It is about the possibilities of people in our present country.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 5 September 2020 11: 47
              -2
              I judge by what I know. father with a decent salary of the military stupidly could not take us to the sea every year. I just couldn't get a ticket. which in itself sounds crazy. So explain to me how, with a population of 250 million, the country managed to make recreation available to people? it is even mathematically impossible. Crimea and the Black Sea coast in general are not rubber enough to accommodate everyone. which means that there can be no question of any accessibility in principle. in view of the limited possibilities. often also disagree. I have a lot of friends who travel to the seaside at least once a year. almost everything. some twice a year. I know the prices because every year I buy tours for my wife and children.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 5 September 2020 13: 19
                +9
                Quote: carstorm 11
                father with a decent salary of the military stupidly could not take us to the sea

                This is a lie, I refuse to listen. Was his salary not enough for the train? Tu-134 plane ticket with any city central Russia then cost 25-30 rubles to Simferopol! Total!!! And the nursery is even cheaper. How could he not have enough salary (the military also has travel benefits) ?? Did he drink it, or what?

                Dmitry, you are just doing a slander here, as it was in the USSR and on your own father.

                And any Soviet pensioner could have rolled south on a train, let alone an officer! It has now become, if you are a pensioner, then almost a bum. The incomes are very close.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 5 September 2020 13: 24
                  -2
                  what are you saying? ) yeah. a person from Khabarovsk has to buy tickets there for the whole family. take to settle somewhere and even hope that he will find such a place?) you might have taken your family into the unknown, but my father was not that kind of person. I just booked it on an Internet and go and then excuse me this could not be. tickets, too, in the summer by the way, it was almost impossible to buy just like that.
                2. U-58
                  U-58 5 September 2020 17: 39
                  +5
                  And that's true. Until 1991, I visited the Black Sea itself every year. I won't be lying if I write that 30% of the people on the beaches were pensioners.
                  By the way, after 1992 I spend ALL my holidays at home, in the Urals.
                  Either the wife was pregnant, then the dashing years dragged on, then there was a complete "Anschluss" at work - we went on vacation for a week in a week.
                  Now - health ...
                  So I remember with great nostalgia about the rest of the savage of the times of the USSR.
                3. Rubi0
                  Rubi0 5 September 2020 20: 36
                  +2
                  You write the game. About every family in the middle lane, judging by the mother-in-law with the father-in-law, both from the villages of the Kursk region, have never been to the sea in the USSR. After reading about the inconveniences on the train to friendly Bulgaria, yes, you and your USSR, right now I took a ticket and flew off. But yes ... you need to plow, and in addition to plowing, you also need to find a place for yourself, and not by distribution, and even if you did, you need to be able to pinch the eggs of management and knock out a salary, and here there are purely human qualities, without charisma anywhere.
              2. Victorio
                Victorio 5 September 2020 18: 27
                +1
                Quote: carstorm 11
                I judge by what I know. father with a decent salary of the military stupidly could not take us to the sea every year. I just couldn't get a ticket. which in itself sounds crazy. So explain to me how, with a population of 250 million, the country managed to make recreation available to people? it is even mathematically impossible. Crimea and the Black Sea coast in general are not rubber enough to accommodate everyone. which means that there can be no question of any accessibility in principle. in view of the limited possibilities. often also disagree. I have a lot of friends who travel to the seaside at least once a year. almost everything. some twice a year. I know the prices because every year I buy tours for my wife and children.

                ===
                ) you read this, well ?! in general, so, but what prevented your decently earning father from simply taking you to the sea or wherever else (to relatives, to a children's pioneer camp). Some vouchers could have been bought, or a savage might have gone to a resort place and stayed with private traders ?!
                from personal. the factory bus from the parents took those who wanted and signed up to the sea on weekends, almost 500 kilometers, and this was already in the 50s. every summer I went from Kazakhstan, where I lived with my mother, to the Kuban, to my father. at the airport and at the railway / bus stations you will not be crowded, so many people. and all this transport runs one by one. and you will take even hellish tickets, because everything is packed with passengers. I drove a small board from below between the chairs, so happy that you are already going.
            2. kalibr
              6 September 2020 12: 27
              -2
              Quote: Stas157
              To listen to you like that in the USSR, you had a solid black band, but now just manna fell from heaven! If this is true, believe me, the majority had exactly the opposite.

              "Oh you, the eternally right majority! You stink like a pile of dung!"
              1. Esoteric
                Esoteric 8 September 2020 17: 30
                +1
                Do you know how the common majority, workers in factories, treated the teachers of "Marxism-Leninism"? True, then these teachers changed their colors, and without understanding a damn thing in production, with some magic whim, they became the owners of these very industries, and proved themselves well, just great. Only the attitude towards them remained the same. Although there is a saying that there is something about smoke and eyes.
                1. kalibr
                  8 September 2020 17: 42
                  -1
                  How did this attitude affect their salary? It is proven that there are 20% of the leading and 80% of the led people. And it is clear that the latter do not really approve of the former. But the horse also obeys the bridle, the spurs and the whip, and only people ... obey even beautiful words!
                  1. Esoteric
                    Esoteric 8 September 2020 17: 52
                    +1
                    This is all true. Another thing is not clear. With what fright did they become owners? Did they build this plant, or maybe their relatives started their own business in this area and it was inherited by them? It seems to be not. Moreover, not understanding anything in production, only being able to glorify the party line.
                    1. kalibr
                      8 September 2020 17: 57
                      -1
                      Oh, that's a question! And here is your answer: these hard workers of yours are not used to taking responsibility, although under socialism they were considered the masters of everything. And the party workers ... are used to it. The system forced. Just a little - "you will answer with your party card!" And when the 91st year happened, “these” again began to wait for the manna for them. And "those" quickly explained to them that they would do everything for them. Bought, privatized, nothing, yes, without understanding the production. I knew many who just got up. He took the initiative, the team sighed with relief - "the owner is found!" And it became as it was.
                      1. Esoteric
                        Esoteric 8 September 2020 18: 07
                        +1
                        It's good that you took the initiative and bought. The question is what? If, as stated, the salary of a hard worker was higher than that of the same deputy. director. Maybe the party bought it? The party got tired of communism, and in truth this doctrine is not for today's centuries and society, it was dead, well, human nature is such, it is for a certain ideal. And the party decided to become capitalists. In the end, what's wrong with a house on the Cote d'Azur, with advice, he did not shine there. Well, it started spinning.
                      2. Esoteric
                        Esoteric 8 September 2020 18: 13
                        +2
                        What masters they were. Those who from the rostrum of the congresses broadcast about this probably inside themselves with laughter. The owner does not live in the barracks, and his "servant", the regional committee worker, does not travel on the black Volga to the regional committee's dacha. It always seems to be the other way around.
                      3. kalibr
                        8 September 2020 18: 18
                        -1
                        Yes, that's right. But they bought it ... often it was like this: a person said - let's add up vouchers, I will open a company and we will work as before. And without money he became the owner. Then ... then everyone who started with him, fired and became a complete master.
                      4. kalibr
                        8 September 2020 18: 19
                        -1
                        We have such an ardent communist here, Alexander Grin ... everyone criticizes me for betraying the ideas of communism. Look, don't write this to him. Immediately, in response, you will receive about your owners, to whom you sold yourself for a pair of sneakers!
                      5. Esoteric
                        Esoteric 8 September 2020 18: 26
                        +1
                        God forbid, I am not criticizing you. If he seriously believes in the possibility of a society based on the principles of Marxism - Leninism, where everything is ideological, where there are no "lies, envy and anger", where butterflies shine with the colors of the rainbow, I will immediately make a reservation, I am not one of these, rainbow ones ... have lived, you will write about the rainbow, and may misunderstand, then this is his right. Again, in my opinion, at this stage of human society. Who knows how the mentality will change in a thousand years, if we live, and suddenly the impossible now becomes possible then.
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 10: 48
      -6
      I am almost 50 years old, and I did not go to the sea during the USSR because I did not have the opportunity. And my parents did not have the opportunity to go to the sea.

      But now I go abroad to have a rest 6-8 times a year and to countries where Soviet people never dreamed of getting, if only not out of great luck. I don't have a home abroad, but many Russians do. Now our people travel to the Caribbean, the Seychelles, the Maldives, buy themselves villas in the Canary Islands or Catalonia, Florida or Great Britain, Cyprus and Provence. Could a Russian afford it 30-40 years ago? Not! In Bulgaria alone, Russians have bought up to 40 thousand apartments and houses. And these are not oligarchs, but ordinary people. Russians now own a lot of real estate in Western Europe, China, Turkey, etc.

      Consequently, recreation in the USSR was less affordable than it is now.
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 5 September 2020 15: 05
        0
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        I am almost 50 years old, and I did not go to the sea during the USSR because I did not have the opportunity. And my parents did not have the opportunity to go to the sea. ....
        Therefore, rest in the USSR was less available than it is now.

        ===
        rest was without any doubt more affordable in the USSR, but within the country. and was less accessible when traveling abroad on vacation.
      2. albert
        albert 5 September 2020 21: 18
        +1
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Now our people travel to the Caribbean, the Seychelles, the Maldives, buy themselves villas in the Canary Islands or Catalonia, Florida or Great Britain, Cyprus and Provence. Could a Russian afford it 30-40 years ago? Not!

        Chubais pereloginsya.
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 6 September 2020 21: 58
          +3
          Quote: albert
          Chubais pereloginsya.

          And what does Chubais have to do with it?
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          In Bulgaria alone, Russians have bought up to 40 thousand apartments and houses. And these are not oligarchs, but ordinary people.

          Quite right, in 2010-12. four of my colleagues have purchased one-two-room apartments in Bulgaria. At that time, such an apartment in Bulgaria was cheaper than a similar one in Krasnoyarsk. And I could buy myself an apartment in the same place, finances allowed, but: “I don’t need the Turkish coast And I don’t need Africa!” (C) I am modestly along the Volga or Yenisei on a steamer, to Baikal, Solovki. I like Russia. But our colleagues with real estate in Bulgaria started having problems, it turns out that housing and communal services there are not like ours. These prices are breaking, mom don't worry.
  • BAI
    BAI 5 September 2020 18: 49
    +6
    Yes. You forget the main point. The poor population (by world standards) of the Russian Federation has a limited opportunity to enjoy touring. And in the USSR they went to the sea more often. And longer.

    Poverty is a relative concept.
    I remember the performance of the Moscow Art Theater "Old New Year". (1986).
    Dialogue between the "homeless man" (Evstigneev) and the "new Soviet" (Innocent):
    Innocent - Is that what you got?
    Evstigneev - And all that is needed.
    Innocent - What do you need?
    Evstigneev - And what is is what is needed.
    I still have the layout of a kayak trip in Siberia in 1989. Interfluve of Podkamennaya and Lower Tungusok. 50 days - 247 rubles, including tickets (from Moscow). Impressions - no foreign country can compare (there was then an opportunity to compare).
  • Stas157
    Stas157 5 September 2020 07: 47
    10
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    Now the population of the Russian Federation can at least break out of poverty by starting your own business

    Compare GDP, economic strength, USSR and Russia. Economic opportunities to give all people had a good life in the USSR were great.

    The total wealth of citizens cannot be greater than the economy of the entire country. The poor population of Russia is doomed to endure such a life also because of the unfair redistribution of the final product of labor. Although, of course, the ability to get rich for a few (at the expense of others) is embedded in the current system. But take advantage of it all cannot, by definition.

    By the way, small and medium-sized businesses in Russia (as you write about) are in a very undeveloped and deplorable state in comparison with other countries. Moreover, it is only decreasing according to statistics. People flee (go broke) from such happiness. Making a career in large enterprises or getting a good job in state structures is easier. This is the average for the hospital.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 07: 56
      -5
      I will not argue with you about this. Yes. Indeed, the economy is going badly. Yes, the GDP of the USSR was larger than the GDP of Russia, relative to our share in the world economy. Yes. The current situation in Russia is the result of the oak economic and personnel policy of the times of the USSR and + the undoubted fault of the country's current leadership.

      But that's not the topic of the article. The topic is about what it was like to travel in the days of developed socialism and about what we have to compare - what was and what became in the field of travel.

      And you, Stas157 (Stas), do not take the topic of discussion of the article aside.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 5 September 2020 08: 20
      +6
      Quote: Stas157
      By the way, small and medium-sized businesses in Russia (as you write about) are in a very undeveloped and deplorable state in comparison with other countries.

      Whom do you write to? He's a vodka merchant.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 5 September 2020 11: 51
        +2
        if you're talking about me then I do not sell vodka. we sell everything. just my direction is the wholesale supply of alcohol. mostly foreign. exclusive. I have the most recent employee speaks at least two languages ​​and half of the candidates writes in various fields.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 5 September 2020 15: 00
          +4
          Quote: carstorm 11
          the most recent employee speaks at least two languages ​​and half of the candidates writes in various fields.

          ===
          ) artistic whistle
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 5 September 2020 15: 46
            -1
            too great opportunities and prospects. plus working with wholesalers is difficult in itself. huge sums and big risks could not but influence the selection of personnel. everyone leads their clients and gets a percentage. This is not a shopping item to push through.
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 5 September 2020 15: 52
              +3
              Quote: carstorm 11
              too great opportunities and prospects. plus working with wholesalers is difficult in itself. huge sums and big risks could not but influence the selection of personnel. everyone leads their clients and gets a percentage. This is not a shopping item to push through.

              ===
              and that, in this case, in large companies and in high government positions, people with PhD and Doctorate degrees work entirely?
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 5 September 2020 16: 35
                -1
                Well, how would it be easier to explain ... in order to stay, you have to study all the time. expand your resume. a Ph.D. is a huge bonus for employers. MBA. other degrees. languages ​​. it all affects your height and your prospects. and of course for your well-being, of course. well, and the fact that you will never be left without work in the future.
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio 5 September 2020 17: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  Well, how would it be easier to explain ... in order to stay, you have to study all the time. expand your resume. a Ph.D. is a huge bonus for employers. MBA. other degrees. languages ​​. it all affects your height and your prospects. and of course for your well-being, of course. well, and the fact that you will never be left without work in the future.

                  ===
                  There is no need to explain how to lie too.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 5 September 2020 23: 53
                    +2
                    Your business. probably for this reason, some earn while others discuss how much.
                    1. Esoteric
                      Esoteric 8 September 2020 18: 41
                      +1
                      I don't know if you will agree with me, but business needs talent. It is either there or it is not. Everyone studied mathematics, but only a few can enter and graduate from mechanics and mathematics. It's the same in music, writing, but don't take it. But this does not mean that a person working with his hands, on the same machine, should drag out, frankly, a half-miserable existence. Is there something wrong. A skilled worker in the "bourgeoisie" earns, earns well, and all of the above can easily afford.
            2. kalibr
              6 September 2020 12: 36
              0
              Dmitry! They don't understand. My daughter is Ph.D., associate professor, she worked at the university for 18 years. Tired of begging, she left, finished the courses, began to work as a realtor, sell commercial real estate, after three months I bought a car. Over the past 5 years, I changed 5 jobs, and each time I got more or more, or spent less on travel, or some other benefit. And twice a year he rests abroad. And also + from earned. But if you earned 2 million. Then. % is great ... So everything is possible, it would be skill, desire, hard work and ... brains.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 6 September 2020 13: 04
                0
                I sometimes think that such elementary things, if not clear, then why be surprised that little in life turns out ... it seems like just invest in yourself and it will all pay off ...
        2. BAI
          BAI 5 September 2020 18: 51
          +7
          and half of the Ph.D. writes in various fields.

          Therefore, the level of candidates and fell below the baseboard.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 6 September 2020 00: 04
            +2
            here I do not know. I'm not to judge. never a candidate and so on were not included in my plans. although the buns from her are really big.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 6 September 2020 13: 59
              +1
              Quote: carstorm 11
              here I do not know. I'm not to judge. never a candidate and so on were not included in my plans. although the buns from her are really big.

              I have an unfinished tower at all - I worked part-time as a security guard during my studies, was run over by a toad to work for my uncle, I opened my office. In the course of the play, he switched to another business. Then on the third laughing
              That's how we live fellowIgnoramuses crying
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 6 September 2020 14: 02
                +1
                sooner or later knowledge will be needed. well, or the team that has them)
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 6 September 2020 14: 53
                  0
                  There is knowledge. Both specialized and general - three languages, marketing and trade skills, incl. international, SEO and other useful laughing Of the courses that I myself took voluntarily, not for the "crust" - statistics, introduction to macro- and microeconomics, management of industrial enterprises, etc.
                  As for the personnel - this is natural, only here there is a rule - "a low-paid employee always costs more" wink
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 6 September 2020 15: 24
                    +1
                    just good advice, do not spray. what you called it is cool of course, but in my opinion you as an owner would be worth the time to spend on general management to begin with. then to the profile one. and definitely on HR. but for the CEO of specialists for your age, there will be enough already) you apparently love to control everything yourself) I probably got rid of it for about 5 years))) so much time was freed later) MBA helped)
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 6 September 2020 15: 55
                      0
                      I agree - there is a sin laughing
                      But I took all this at the very beginning of the path - and it is very difficult to find SEO specialists in some topics, because who know professional terms in English, Hebrew, German and are able to compose a readable text with keys in literary Russian - only units in the world))
                      I also agree about personnel management - it is necessary to improve skills. Everything looks like this for me - I typed a team, distributed the work, let me get on with it - they are not effective - I fire everyone laughing
                    2. kalibr
                      6 September 2020 18: 43
                      0
                      Do you take the "stupid" one into the team, so that the rest of you have fun?
                    3. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 6 September 2020 19: 00
                      0
                      A person can be an absolutely ineffective intellectual with an excellent education and an excellent theoretical base.
                      An uneducated person can quickly and safely deliver a product / person from point A to point B, which, in principle, is required of him.
                      My best employee told me in all seriousness about the war between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. ))
                    4. kalibr
                      6 September 2020 19: 54
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      My best employee told me in all seriousness about the war between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds.
                      I didn't mean that a little ...
                    5. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 6 September 2020 19: 59
                      +1
                      A team that is stupid in performance usually survives - I present it to everyone.
                      HR - yes, the basis
            2. kalibr
              6 September 2020 19: 55
              0
              Quote: carstorm 11
              and certainly on HR

              An extremely IMPORTANT component of the business. Anyone!
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 5 September 2020 13: 05
    -4
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Stas157
    By the way, small and medium-sized businesses in Russia (as you write about) are in a very undeveloped and deplorable state in comparison with other countries.

    Whom do you write to? He's a vodka merchant.

    Who are you? You work for an uncle who does not consider you a person ... justifying this with conscience, pride and it is not clear what
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 10: 40
    -4
    Can you speak about travel, or at least about this article?
  • kalibr
    7 September 2020 06: 17
    -1
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    The USSR is a big inhuman exaggeration, although one cannot but admit that there were good things in the USSR.

    And there were good things in Germany under Hitler and in Italy about Mussolini: the roads, for example, are still used today. There is always good! But there is also a bad thing. And if there is a lot of it, countries cease to exist, and their leaders feel bad ...
  • Van 16
    Van 16 5 September 2020 07: 45
    15
    During my school years, I did not go anywhere further than my grandmother's village. But then we corresponded with the same students in socialist countries. In the magazine, not that Pioneer, not something else, the addresses of such interested persons were printed. So we wrote, I'm to Hungary, my friend is just to Bulgaria. My correspondence quickly died out, but with Bulgaria it went on for a long time. And not only letters were, but also parcels were exchanged. I am grateful to that Bulgarian, he sent many records, two were especially memorable, one of the Hungarian group General, the other - as much ABBA, Mamma Mia.
    1. kalibr
      6 September 2020 12: 37
      +3
      Quote: Van 16
      My correspondence quickly died out, but with Bulgaria it went on for a long time. And not only letters were, but also parcels were exchanged.

      About it will also be!
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 5 September 2020 08: 23
    10
    In 1968 my mother and I went to Moscow - on our own, without vouchers. So I don't remember that my mother would go shopping in search of "rags", although at that time we lived (my father was an officer) in the small town of Ayaguz in Kazakhstan. In Moscow, I remembered (I was 9 years old) a corner of Durov, VDNKh with the Vostok rocket and a visit to the Cosmos pavilion, the Kremlin with a bell and a cannon .... and the Vietnamese military who lived in the next room (we lived in the Moscow hotel) and who gave me a Vietnamese (!!!!) badge ... and Rokosovsky's funeral. So dear author, not everyone went in those days to buy foreign goods ... today they like to say that everyone "was in pursuit of rags", there were those who simply learned new and interesting things, not paying attention to household shortcomings. ..
    1. kalibr
      6 September 2020 12: 38
      +1
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      So dear author, not everyone went in those days to buy foreign goods ... today they like to say that everyone "was in pursuit of rags", there were those who simply learned new and interesting things, not paying attention to household shortcomings. ..

      Happy for you! But at 68 I was with my mother, and not she was with me, so I did not get to the CA museum, but I ended up in GUM.
  • Operator
    Operator 5 September 2020 08: 37
    +3
    During the Soviet era, he was abroad only once in Poland in 1987 on a tour from work. I was struck by the wretchedness of urban housing in Warsaw, Krakow and other settlements - old, dilapidated buildings, poor plumbing. City transport - creaking rusty trams and buses. It was as if I got into a Russian film dystopia of the early 1990s. Grocery stores have a rationing system and empty shelves (after martial law). Youth hostels - with bunk beds (we got rooms with half filling). At least the clothes of the passers-by differed from ours, but only in style, not quality.

    After pouring saliva and snot on the concept of "abroad" in Soviet films, it was a real surreal understanding of the standard of living of the majority of the population there, especially in terms of the most expensive component - real estate.
    1. kalibr
      6 September 2020 18: 41
      -1
      In the Czech Republic, Andrei, the restoration of the Hluboka and Cesky Krumlov castles began only after 1991. Regarding the restoration of the Old Town in Warsaw, as early as September 2, 1980, at the 4th session of the UNESCO World Heritage Committee in Paris, the Old Town of Warsaw was inscribed (under No. 30) on the World Heritage List as an example of restoration. And if this place is beautiful now, then ... it was beautiful in 1987 too. And what about a Stalinist skyscraper in the center of Warsaw? It was already then and the building is very impressive. Although ordinary buildings ... especially where there are buildings from the Soviet five-story buildings, they still do not decorate the city.
      1. Operator
        Operator 6 September 2020 21: 09
        0
        I was referring not to the small Old Town, not the Stalinist skyscraper and not the five-story Soviet-style buildings, but the most typical residential buildings in Warsaw of the pre-revolutionary and post-revolutionary period, restored after the war - gray, with peeling plaster, common facilities on the floor, courtyards, wells and etc.
        1. kalibr
          7 September 2020 06: 19
          0
          Quote: Operator
          restored after the war - gray, with peeled plaster, common facilities on the floor, courtyards, wells, etc.

          See "All-Bank" (1-2), right ?! It is well shown there.
  • U-58
    U-58 5 September 2020 09: 46
    +1
    What's this! My friend in '90 went on a tour of Western Ukraine. With a day trip from Chop to Hungary. The day before, the guide said: dress decently, do not take Soviet money in any case. I advise women to stock up on Corvalol ...
    - What, what is it?
    -Yes joke ...
    In the morning they put on a bus, passed the border (according to the list, with Soviet passports), the Hungarian customs literally x-rayed everyone's eyes (a friend remembered that there were 40 kopecks in his pocket, which he had previously forgotten, but cost) and after 1,5 hours they were Hungarian border town. Half-day excursion and free time 3 hours.
    Everyone went shopping.
    This is where the Corvalol joke became an ominous truth. In the shops of a small provincial town there were so many goods, grub and SUCH that Moscow was resting, nervously smoking on the sidelines.
    And denekh is not a penny, not a forint ...
    In the evening, already in the Union, even the most respectable sober women at dinner got drunk to a pig squeal and pestered my friend, offering well, the most indecent things)))
    So the memories lasted for years.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 10: 36
      -1
      Your post is additional evidence to the fact that in terms of travel in our country there have been great changes for the better - from the USSR to modern Russia. I remember even cooler comparisons because the first trip to a capital country - to Italy, I made in 1991 before the collapse of the USSR. That was an adventure!
      But judging by the estimates for my posts, many readers of this thread do not share the opinion that the situation has improved in terms of travel. They probably think that things have gotten worse now. laughing
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 5 September 2020 13: 03
        0
        Of course, for the better, there were significantly more cars, respectively, and wild tourism around the country gathered in a group and drove off.
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 5 September 2020 14: 56
        +3
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        But judging by the estimates for my posts, many readers of this thread do not share the opinion that the situation has improved in terms of travel. They probably think that things have gotten worse now.

        ===
        the geography has become larger, the service sector is wider and higher, but more expensive and inaccessible for many. I'll add more. that the number of untouched / little-visited places has decreased
  • garri-lin
    garri-lin 5 September 2020 09: 53
    11
    As a resident of the resort region, I want to say about the memo. I would give these to modern tourists. Malottoy was forced to memorize and took exams before boarding the plane. A lot of people behave on vacation, not just awful but not at all human. The notorious "TaAAaaAagiIil !!!!!!" In action. Like prioichny people and on the 2-3 day they begin to swine, to plump. Such clients spoil the rest of those around them. One gets the impression that the brain and conscience are not taken to rest. The houses are locked in the safe.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 5 September 2020 10: 39
      -1
      People gradually improve when they start traveling more. This applies to both Russians and foreigners. For example, what kind of Chinese tourists were boors in the zero years. And now, among the Chinese boors, one can find only old people who speak loudly, laughing and spitting. And the Chinese youth are behaving well.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 5 September 2020 11: 19
        +4
        I haven't noticed any big changes in 20 years. Sometimes there are more boors. Sometimes less. When they travel in groups and now sometimes they distribute reminders of good behavior. Good practice.
      2. Avior
        Avior 5 September 2020 21: 25
        +5
        Was in St. Petersburg four years ago, was shocked. You won't see so many Chinese in China. They behave very unceremoniously. If you take a photo, then ours will slow down so as not to spoil the frame, or bypass, the Chinese will trample directly, not paying attention, and even just stand in front of your nose. The guide in the Hermitage said in plain text, allegedly as a joke, "I didn't tell you, but we are crushing the Chinese."
        In Europe, by the way, the Chinese behave more decently, but there are also fewer of them.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 6 September 2020 12: 45
          +3
          Quote: Avior
          Was in St. Petersburg four years ago, was shocked. You won't see so many Chinese in China. They behave very unceremoniously. If you take a photo, then ours will slow down so as not to spoil the frame, or bypass, the Chinese will trample directly, not paying attention, and even just stand in front of your nose. The guide in the Hermitage said in plain text, allegedly as a joke, "I didn't tell you, but we are crushing the Chinese."
          In Europe, by the way, the Chinese behave more decently, but there are also fewer of them.

          Switzerland is full. Behave - yes, decently
      3. kalibr
        6 September 2020 12: 42
        +1
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        And the Chinese youth are behaving well.

        Yes!
    2. kalibr
      6 September 2020 12: 41
      +1
      Quote: garri-lin
      One gets the impression that the brain and conscience are not taken to rest.

      And most of them do not ... One social training keeps in check. And then everyone around is strangers, well, it started ...
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 6 September 2020 17: 38
        +1
        Quite possible. From the outside, this behavior looks terrible.
        1. kalibr
          6 September 2020 17: 41
          +1
          This is not only for our people. Germans! Which are disciplined, which ... at home in Germany. They get to Cyprus - drunk people lie in the bushes ... In Croatia, at the Bella Kamik hotel on the island of Krk, drunken German women wandered around the hotel on the last day of their stay and vomited in the elevators. We're on vacation! We ... nobody knows!
          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin 6 September 2020 18: 26
            +1
            It's good that they just vomited.
          2. EvilLion
            EvilLion 7 September 2020 08: 30
            0
            And with the Japanese after work, you can get drunk even to the pigs and stuff your boss in the face, the main thing is that the next day you are at work like a cucumber. The more the rules put pressure on people at home and at work, the more frostbitten they come off after work and at resorts.
            1. kalibr
              7 September 2020 08: 31
              -2
              Quote: EvilLion
              The more the rules put pressure on people at home and at work, the more frostbitten they come off after work and at resorts.

              Undoubtedly!
          3. basal
            basal 9 September 2020 22: 33
            +2
            You were not on the Turku-Stockholm ferry this weekend. That's where the Europeans are drinking ... Where are we going. They take tickets without a cabin there and back and don't even go ashore. They drink for two days without drying out. After alcohol treatment, they carry trolleys of packs of beer and gin and tonic with them (it is cheaper in tax fries). So they add until next weekend. Well, we, yes, are the most drinking nation. Here are just Russians, drunk to a bestial state, I have never seen there ...
            1. kalibr
              10 September 2020 10: 56
              0
              By the way, yes. Although I saw a funny couple in Loriet de Mar in Spain. I go - in front of him and she. He carries two bottles of mineral water under his armpits. And is silent. She walks and scolds him: "Two for in Spain, but I haven't seen Spain - she sits in the room and thumps on black ..." I told her: "Well, why are you so. A man sometimes needs to have fun ..." She measured me with an unkind look: "You are walking dry, but this one ... barely moves his legs. It's five minutes to the beach, and we have never been ... And after all, she only turned away a little, and this bastard managed to get drunk in the bar ... "These are the peculiarities of rest our people have.
  • Victorio
    Victorio 5 September 2020 14: 51
    +1
    And the foreign tourist's memo - a very funny little book, reminding that the fork on the table lies on the left (and, therefore, you need to take it with your left hand, and the knife, respectively, with your right and right. And not just given out, but ordered to study everything in it written, remember it well, because we will have an "interview".
    ===
    it would not hurt the majority now, if not to say more - necessary. wow, we saved the brochure


    Then the French fries langette and the absolutely amazing coffee cake were served.
    ===
    in such details, memory, however, is perhaps a creative invention


    in general, thank you, interesting and informative.
  • BAI
    BAI 5 September 2020 18: 24
    +7
    1.
    And once they were approved, they recalculated the entire salary from the day of defense and the day of approval. And she got a hefty sum for that time on her hands,

    After all, people lived under the Union. When I defended myself in a democracy (candidate), my salary increase was 2 kg of doctoral sausage.
    2.
    The Pirateska Frigata restaurant is very popular in the Sunny Beach resort. For some reason, in 2013 it was burned ...

    Well, we have the same son of the Hungarian minister burned down "Shelter 11" on Elbrus (I still managed to visit before the burning). The orphanage survived under the Germans, but under democracy it burned down.
    There must be some kind of system in this.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 7 September 2020 08: 27
    -1
    It is still much easier to master in which hand to hold the fork and write the rules than to build some BAM. I wrote instructions and you already feel like a white person, not like those from the Union.
    1. Icelord
      Icelord 7 September 2020 18: 23
      +1
      Duc, after all, comrades from the union wrote these memos. In free time from the construction of BAM
  • Dedok
    Dedok 7 September 2020 09: 03
    0
    I remember Bulgaria at 76 by other signs:
    the harvested prunes were exchanged for "plum brandy",
    I ordered lunch in the dining room nearby, come in time and the pots with 1, 2, and sous were already waiting ...
    I also handed over cans from under "kisselo mlyako" for exchange, as well as with us - milk, kefir in a returnable container.
  • Dedok
    Dedok 7 September 2020 09: 06
    0
    Quote: Krasnodar

    Quote: Avior was in St. Petersburg four years ago, was shocked. You won't see so many Chinese in China. They behave very unceremoniously. If you take a photo, then ours will slow down so as not to spoil the frame, or bypass, the Chinese will trample directly, not paying attention, and even just stand in front of your nose. The guide in the Hermitage said in plain text, allegedly as a joke, “I didn’t tell you, but we’re pushing the Chinese.” In Europe, by the way, the Chinese behave more decently, but there are also fewer of them. In Switzerland, there are plenty. Behave - yes, decently


    ... the Chinese bought up half of Vasilievsky Island (real estate) ...
  • place
    place 7 September 2020 14: 00
    0
    Descendants of the serfs of the 18th century, who they were, remained so. Both the article and many comments boil down to the reasoning of the slaves about which master is better. Some for the red master, others for the white master ......... The Papuans, who have already been "allowed into Europe", arrogantly laugh at their ancestors, the Papuans, who were just beginning to be "allowed into Europe" A normal person will vomit ...

    By the way; The USSR has nothing to do with it at all, because even at the beginning of the 19th century, after the company of 1812-1813, more than 40 thousand soldiers of the victorious Russian army "fled" - deserted from their units to settle in the West. It was, in fact, the first wave of mass Russian emigration. .Because even a special decree, the Emperor, demanding a return to their homeland, they did not stop ... Not only Pushkin wrote to Vyazemsky in 1826, "I will never return ..." Yes ... s, bln .. how long and how hopeless everything is running ...
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 8 September 2020 14: 52
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      more than 40 thousand soldiers of the victorious Russian army

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      // As you can see, "hot" information is not based at all on "reports of regimental commanders", but on rumors and speculation. Although memoirs are an important historical source, it is nevertheless necessary to treat the information contained in them with caution, comparing with data obtained from other sources. Moreover, in this case, in the memoirs of A.M. Baranovich, information about 40 thousand deserters has already been defined as a rumor.
      1. kalibr
        8 September 2020 18: 22
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        I had an article here, THE ARMY OF DEASTERS, just about that. Take an interest. There is detail ...
  • Icelord
    Icelord 7 September 2020 17: 44
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    The huge number of "neo-communists" is striking, because they simply do not exist in life. I can imagine if someone in a company or at work started to light this. Asylum provided
    1. kalibr
      8 September 2020 18: 25
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      People, Igor, are offended that they seem to have both a head and a diploma ... but it didn't come together to have an oil derrick. And before ... no one had and that's why the toad strangles them. Well, they find a splash of bile here, where everything is safe and safe. Why did our grandfathers die on the barricades? For freedom of speech as well. But it is the same for the smart and for the fools.
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  • Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 8 September 2020 19: 30
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    At the beginning of the 90s he was a partner with the former Czechoslovakia. All billboards have a privatization coupon. The opinion of colleagues, near Prazr (in the Czech Republic) or Velki Saris (in Slovakia), made these students in PraZ revolution. More recently - he got married, in the city - an apartment, on a collective farm - a house. I come in a year, how are you? Personalized coupon books, take shares of Skoda, Kosice, or the nearest brewery. Both crowns are like a glove, there is no inflation, there is an abundance in stores, there are no oligarchs either ... You can buy 200 marks a year in a bank, with a mark in your passport. When importing - payment after the goods have crossed the customs border, when exporting after payment is received in the country. Who prevented us from doing the same?
  • basal
    basal 9 September 2020 22: 17
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    Vyunosh of pioneer age drank wine with his mother in front of everyone? In 1968 ?? Abroad??? Oh, not ve-e-e-ryu))))