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Head of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine: vaccine production in the country was completely destroyed in the 1990s

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In Ukraine, negative trends were reported associated with the actual loss of the vaccine production system. According to the Minister of Health of Ukraine Maxim Stepanov, the production of vaccines in the country "was completely destroyed in the 1990s."


This statement was made by an official of the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers in an interview with Radio Liberty. According to Stepanov, he repeatedly spoke with President Zelenskiy about the possibilities to restore the very system of vaccine production in the country.

The minister said that today the health care system of Ukraine uses foreign vaccines, including influenza vaccines.

Stepanov:

We have all the necessary scientific potential and a good school. But it will take several years for us to have our own vaccine developed by our scientists.

The official said that he had a conversation with representatives of the pharmaceutical business - the heads of enterprises that have special certification for the production of vaccines.

Let us recall that in Ukraine there are serious problems with vaccination for a number of diseases, including measles. Because of this, disease outbreaks occurred in different parts of the country.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 31 August 2020 06: 17 New
    +9
    Foreign countries will help, the US and the EU, the main thing is to believe.
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 31 August 2020 06: 25 New
      +1
      We have all the necessary scientific potential and a good school. But it will take several years for us to have our own vaccine developed by our scientists.

      More precisely, it takes time so that Ukraine has its own scientists who can create a simple flu vaccine.
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 31 August 2020 06: 33 New
        +7
        Where will they come from? From jumping or dampness? Increased state funding, new budget places in institutions, canceled the Suprun reform? Not! Therefore, the problem will only grow, because talking will not help the matter.
        1. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 31 August 2020 06: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: RUnnm
          Where will they come from? From jumping or dampness?

          Well, for several years the concept is loose laughing this is 10 and 20 and 50 belay
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 31 August 2020 07: 38 New
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            Quote: 41 REGION

            Well, for several years the concept is loose laughing this is 10 and 20 and 50 belay

            "What is a lot? Philologists, she-she-she, in all seriousness believe - this is everything that is more than two. Do not believe? Well, see for yourself. The point is called a point, it is one. Two points are a colon. And when I once used the word "ellipsis" in one article, they corrected me. Like, according to the rules of the Russian language, this is called an ellipsis. Fuck, what is it, our humanitarians immediately after two begin to have difficulties with oral counting, and they to avoid confusion, naturally switch to "many"? "

            (c) A. Velichko. "Uncle Zhora"
            1. krot
              krot 31 August 2020 08: 39 New
              +3
              In Belarus, too, everything will be buried if the Poles win!
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 31 August 2020 08: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: RUnnm
          Where will they come from? From jumping or dampness? Increased state funding, new budget places in institutions, canceled the Suprun reform? Not! Therefore, the problem will only grow, because talking will not help the matter.

          Not for that the "friends" of Ukraine have been cleaning this "Ukrainian meadow" for years to give them the opportunity to "grow" something on this meadow. The market of 35 million heads should be under their control and use a product saturated with "democracy".
    2. Hto tama
      Hto tama 31 August 2020 06: 26 New
      +4
      Come on belay who of the civilizers is interested in the health of the natives request , they themselves are all themselves, but they themselves are no longer able to create something, well, then this is monetary investments, who in their right mind will invest in the economy, knowing that at any moment it will collapse, well, or the lads in embroidered shirts will come and squeeze the truncated wassat
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 August 2020 06: 27 New
      -3
      Head of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine: vaccine production in the country was completely destroyed in the 1990s
      biological laboratories, (right now it's called that) are working.
    4. Finches
      Finches 31 August 2020 06: 28 New
      +3
      "We have all the necessary scientific potential and a good school. But it takes several years for us to have our own vaccine, developed by our scientists." - blessed is he who believes, but only the word "is" must be replaced with the word "was" and then the phrase will be more truthful! In the meantime, they only have Ukraine in the tail and in the mane ..., and not without the help of this and similar ministers, together with their chief KVN-shik! laughing
    5. Mouse
      Mouse 31 August 2020 06: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Foreign countries will help, the US and the EU, the main thing is to believe.

      Abroad do not care ... the faster they die out, the faster the area will be released ...
  2. Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 31 August 2020 06: 25 New
    -5
    Important information early in the morning about Ukrainian pharmaceuticals, positioning themselves on the resource as a military-political one, or is it the magazine "Health"?
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 31 August 2020 06: 41 New
      +3
      Is the destruction of the vaccination system, incl. the conscription contingent in a neighboring, Russophobic, aggressive country towards us does not fall under the sphere of military-political interests?
      1. Wwk7260
        Wwk7260 31 August 2020 06: 54 New
        -8
        find out the original source of this copy-paste and understand how low the resource fell.
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 31 August 2020 07: 00 New
          +2
          And where does the source? What, in Ukraine, for several years now, such specialists as Todurov, and even the same Komarovsky literally do not scream about the terrible threat from the failure of the vaccination of children? Or did the cart not warn and urgently deliver measles vaccine? So, the problem is not the source.
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            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 31 August 2020 08: 00 New
              -1
              Excuse me, but do you have statistics on the number of cases per test performed? Or don't you even understand that you can do 10 million tests, or you can do 10 tests and yell, how great they are? And the Russian Federation is in 4th place, but how can one not lie about this, right?
              1. Avior
                Avior 31 August 2020 08: 18 New
                -1
                Statistics are open.
                For 12 tests, one identified.
                A total of 1,5 million tests were done, 120 thousand patients were identified.
                https://www.pravda.com.ua/cdn/covid-19/cpa/
                1. RUnnm
                  RUnnm 31 August 2020 08: 44 New
                  0
                  You don’t understand .... you can do 10 million tests and identify 1.5 million patients and get 4th place, or you can do 100 tests and get 2 patients and shout that we are at the bottom of the list, and the fact that the percentage of examined is 0.00001% - so do not care, right?
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 31 August 2020 08: 57 New
                    -1
                    This is if only once.
                    And if not enough tests are carried out continuously for months, then the undetected patients will affect the statistics. One out of ten was determined by tests - there will be one out of five, out of three, and so on.
                    The fact that one of the twelve is revealed means that it is carried out at the slightest suspicion or wires.
                    All the same it is impossible to check all at once.
                    1. RUnnm
                      RUnnm 31 August 2020 09: 25 New
                      -1
                      )))) Excuse me, but with the accumulative principle, what will change?)))) Nothing. Therefore, from the very beginning, I said - it is necessary to look at the number of identified tests
          2. rich
            rich 31 August 2020 07: 39 New
            +1
            In Ukraine, negative trends were reported associated with the actual loss of the vaccine production system.
            .
            After all, the vaccine can be bought from manufacturers
            This is not Ukraine's biggest loss today.
            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 31 August 2020 08: 04 New
              +1
              Eh, I remember these words from the 90s !!! On figs we have production, if everything can be bought abroad !?
              And the fact that vaccination is a system, and not a situational moment, what to do with it? And where to store, and who will monitor the vaccination schedule, and who will do it in the villages, and who will monitor side effects, tolerance, etc.?
              You cannot ruin an entire system and then "buy" it overnight.
              1. rich
                rich 31 August 2020 08: 11 New
                +1
                Good morning dear RUnnm (nnm)
                I absolutely agree with you. But my comment, if you read it carefully, is only about the production of vaccines, and not about the state vaccination system itself
          3. Avior
            Avior 31 August 2020 08: 22 New
            +1
            Todurov is in a protracted conflict with the ministry, and he won't tell you that.
            He's an excellent specialist, no question, but in Ukraine the institute he runs is known for the fabulous sums that are ripped off patients, despite the fact that operations are carried out for state funding.
            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 31 August 2020 08: 39 New
              0
              Well, yes, it’s Suprun’s business - where does Todurov go to her! There is nothing to listen to him, he just does not understand anything
              1. Avior
                Avior 31 August 2020 09: 06 New
                +1
                Nobody accuses Todurov that he does not understand, on the contrary, no one doubts that he is a first-class cardiac surgeon.
                Another thing is that his view is biased because of the conflict.
      2. Avior
        Avior 31 August 2020 08: 00 New
        0
        ... Is the destruction of the vaccination system, incl. draft contingent

        Vaccination takes place, the vaccine is not of its own production.
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 31 August 2020 08: 08 New
          0
          Strange, but the Ministry of Health of Ukraine thinks differently ..... the first link on request is the answer of the Ministry of Health in the link text: https://112.ua/statji/kor-vs-otkaz-ot-privivok-kto-kogo-503767 .html
          1. Avior
            Avior 31 August 2020 09: 14 New
            0
            Oh, here you are already referring to the statements of Suprun.
            Cool. She will tell you a lot.
            But in fact, we read.
            ... Ukrainians are provided with vaccines. And not Indian, which are extremely unpopular among the population, but made in Belgium and the United States.

            Another thing is that often parents themselves prohibit vaccinating children under a far-fetched pretext - there is such a fashionable trend. And it's difficult to fight it.
            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 31 August 2020 09: 43 New
              0
              Is the function of medical education an empty word for the Ministry of Health?
              1. Avior
                Avior 31 August 2020 11: 13 New
                0
                This is a common problem
                In Russia, the number of cases of whooping cough increased by almost 40% over the year, most of the cases were recorded in Moscow. The chief epidemiologist of the Ministry of Health is sure that one of the main reasons for this is the refusal of parents to vaccinate their children.
                1. RUnnm
                  RUnnm 31 August 2020 11: 20 New
                  0
                  And I wrote somewhere that in Russia the Ministry of Health is working out as it should? It seems to be not! But, thank God, we have not yet reached the epidemics of measles and diphtheria.
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 31 August 2020 14: 14 New
                    +1
                    Matter of chance
                    Actually, it was about the fact that parents refuse to vaccinate children, this is a common problem
  3. RUnnm
    RUnnm 31 August 2020 06: 26 New
    +6
    That's right, vaccine production is completely decommunized! Non-brothers have long known that applying Bandera's portrait to a sore spot instantly heals! Almost the same as a three-time anathema towards Russia or the placement of the Pentagon's biological laboratories in your country!
    But in fact, everything is absolutely logical - since you reject your story, then history, like that Nietzsche abyss, also rejects you, the mindless ...
    ... here we have, for many years now, massive epidemics of measles and diphtheria. As in some kind of Middle Ages! After all, the devastation is not in the pharmaceutical sector, but in Svidomo's heads!
  4. Avior
    Avior 31 August 2020 06: 38 New
    0
    Old as the world.
    Knocks out money.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 31 August 2020 06: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Knocks out money

      That's for sure. Yes, only for future use will not work ...
    2. RUnnm
      RUnnm 31 August 2020 06: 53 New
      +3
      Not certainly in that way. He, as the head of the Ministry of Health, does not even have the right to purchase drugs. These functions are transferred to a special office, which is supervised by foreign "friends" through the supervisory board)))
      This is just a groundwork for the future - so that during a serious epidemic he himself would not be put as a scapegoat
  5. Quadro
    Quadro 31 August 2020 06: 38 New
    +2
    But some here croak that stole something else wow, and we are stupid Russians laughing.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 August 2020 06: 43 New
    0
    "It was completely destroyed in the 1990s."
    After secession from the USSR, they were just beginning to destroy what they believed to be an "independent and rich" state. The peak of destruction of everything, incl. and pharmacology, the Soviet school of virology began after the first orange in 2004, and since 2014 completely went crazy. It is clear that I don’t want to take the blame on myself, it’s easier to blame it on the 90s.
  7. Free wind
    Free wind 31 August 2020 06: 46 New
    +3
    Making a simple flu vaccine is not easy at all, the virus constantly mutates. And if yesterday the vaccine was effective, today it may turn out to be water. Regarding measles, we have canceled the mandatory vaccination. We also have outbreaks.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 August 2020 06: 57 New
    +1
    What did they want? Ask Kuchma, he wanted to be the king of the land, but at least the grass does not grow there. To sell the Soviet heritage, and divide the money between Kuchmyats. fool
  9. Avior
    Avior 31 August 2020 06: 57 New
    -2
    The title seems to be misleading.
    This is not about the production of vaccines, but about the development of new ones.
    According to the minister himself, there is equipment for production.
    ... I have already held several meetings with our entrepreneurs who have appropriate lines. Our enterprises "Farmak", "Likhi", which have corresponding certified vaccine production lines, can produce either a Ukrainian vaccine, if it appears, or another

    I wonder how many countries in the world are developing new vaccines?
    I always thought it was the business of private pharmaceutical companies.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 31 August 2020 07: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Avior
      The title seems to be misleading.

      And the title has something to do with it? This is a statement by the Minister of Health of Ukraine. Is the pan minister himself misleading? ..
      1. Avior
        Avior 31 August 2020 08: 03 New
        -1
        In one place he talks about production, in another about development.
        The quote I quoted is his words too.
        It shows that there are production lines.
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 31 August 2020 08: 05 New
      +1

      Avior (Sergey)
      Today, 06: 57
      -2
      The title seems to be misleading.
      This is not about the production of vaccines, but about the development of new ones.
      Are you serious?!!!? What laboratories do the Ukrainians have in unnecessary? !!!? In the unnecessary laboratory, only the mericatos have it. And it is not known what other vaccines are being developed there. In any case, not to treat people, but just the opposite - to KILL people. Yes, the title has nothing to do with it. hi
      1. Avior
        Avior 31 August 2020 08: 09 New
        0
        Monday morning is a tough moment, but why are you so nervous? Take care of yourself. smile
        From the interview, it is clear that there are lines for the production of vaccines, there are no own developments, which he hints at - give money.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 31 August 2020 08: 14 New
          +1

          Avior (Sergey)
          Today, 08: 09

          0
          Monday morning is a tough moment, but why are you so nervous? Take care of yourself. smile
          From the interview, it is clear that there are lines for the production of vaccines, there are no own developments, which he hints at - give money.
          Let me worry about my health myself. As for the "vaccine production lines" - these are the same lines as the production of tanks, aircraft, missiles, ships, etc., in unnecessary. The usual fornication for cutting the dough.
          1. Avior
            Avior 31 August 2020 08: 35 New
            -1
            Worry, of course, but you are very emotional in the early morning on Monday. smile
            The crux of the matter is that there are production lines and no vaccine developments.
            With tanks and other things, in my opinion, on the contrary smile
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 31 August 2020 07: 03 New
    0
    Most worlds, skip ahead.
  11. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 07: 17 New
    -2
    When the United States or Japan finishes creating a vaccine, then most likely Ukraine will receive it as humanitarian aid.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 31 August 2020 07: 39 New
      +1

      Jack O'Neill (Argon-1)
      Today, 07: 17
      NEW
      -2
      When the United States or Japan finishes creating a vaccine, then most likely Ukraine will receive it as humanitarian aid.
      What naivety! Until they do it !!!!! they will supply their own. And who needs an unnecessary one to be given a vaccine laughing wassat - ATTENTION !!! which does not exist yet, which will be in short supply for many years, which will be expensive. By that time, you will see that the unnecessary sneakers will be put in the corner. bully
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 07: 42 New
        0
        What naivety! Until they do it !!!!! they will supply their own. And who needs an unnecessary one to be given a vaccine laughing wassat - ATTENTION !!! which does not exist yet, which will be in short supply for many years, which will be expensive. By that time, you will see that the unnecessary sneakers will be put in the corner. bully


        Avian flu vaccine was also "scarce", but it was supplied to many countries for thanks. Thanks to WHO.
        If Ukraine was not needed, it would not be helped either financially or militarily.
        And what is terrible, it is not the fraternal people (we, Russia) that helps them, but the United States.
        All the time they called Ukrainians brothers, and when they need help so much, we just laugh at them (thread as a proof).

        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 31 August 2020 08: 01 New
          -1

          Jack O'Neill (Argon-1)
          Today, 07: 42
          ... If Ukraine was not needed, then it would not be helped as financially, and militaryAnd what's scary, it's not the fraternal people (we, Russia) that helps them, but the United States ...
          Is it completely swollen? Help the Ukronazis to kill our fellow citizens in the LPR? angry
          1. Jack O'Neill
            Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 08: 09 New
            0
            Is it completely swollen? Help the Ukronazis to kill our fellow citizens in the LPR? angry

            What kind of fellow citizens are they? They are not part of Russia, but a self-proclaimed republic. In fact, the same Ukrainians.
            And you don't have to help the military. You can help with food, medicines and other necessary things.
            The Ukrainians would see that Russia is helping them and would go for rapprochement, which in turn would solve the problem with the LPR and DPR.
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 31 August 2020 08: 18 New
              -1

              Jack O'Neill (Argon-1)
              Today, 08: 09

              0
              Is it completely swollen? Help the Ukronazis to kill our fellow citizens in the LPR? angry

              What kind of fellow citizens are they? They are not part of Russia, but a self-proclaimed republic. In fact, the same Ukrainians.
              And the living RUSSIAN people in the LDNR? And who received passports of the Russian Federation?
              Ukrainians would see that Russia is helping them and would go to rapprochement, which in turn would solve the problem with the LPR and DPR.
              laughing laughing laughing As your compatriot says - "I dare not detain you any longer!"
              1. Jack O'Neill
                Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 19: 00 New
                -1
                And the living RUSSIAN people in the LDNR? And who received passports of the Russian Federation?

                Let them go home. Che they generally forgot there.

                laughing laughing laughing As your compatriot says - "I dare not detain you any longer!"

                Which one?
        2. Rubi0
          Rubi0 31 August 2020 08: 44 New
          -1
          The question is in what quantity and quality of assistance. As an example, in Ukraine, since 2015, there is no BCG vaccination, they themselves refused the Russian one at a normal price, and they still do not supply foreign ones. Of the latter, it was a scandal with supposedly French but in fact Indian. And with stories that children have paralysis of the legs for 3 days after super duper combined vaccinations in Kiev, you will not surprise anyone. Who is smarter, they simply refuse, or in private clinics by all truth or by crook they are made by foreign ones, including contraband Russian ones.
  12. taiga2018
    taiga2018 31 August 2020 07: 19 New
    +1
    So you are only needed to buy everything ready from your Western owners, now they are trying to drive the Belarusians into the same herd ...
  13. Thrifty
    Thrifty 31 August 2020 07: 26 New
    0
    Colonies don't need production! And, in general, "the sheriff's blacks do not care about the problems" !!! So, pans on your head, and jump on. ..
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 August 2020 07: 36 New
    +1
    the health care system of Ukraine uses foreign vaccines, including influenza vaccines.
    Well, they have the spirit of freedom! laughing laughing Expensive, but because of the hillock. laughing
  15. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 31 August 2020 07: 50 New
    +1
    Who has scientific potential and a good school, Ukraine? It's funny. It is economically unprofitable to develop and produce a vaccine, invest billions of dollars to vaccinate Ukrainians, it is easier to buy an imported one, with a corresponding rollback, and you can buy an expired one at a higher price.
  16. Hagen
    Hagen 31 August 2020 09: 03 New
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    Stepanov:
    We have all the necessary scientific potential and a good school. But it will take several years for us to have our own vaccine developed by our scientists.

    What's the potential? A set of names of graduates of specialized universities? Everything has been destroyed since the 90s. More than 20 years of experience in practical work on the topic. Obviously, the minister wanted to sweeten the pill with a phrase about potential. I should have said that "... the production of vaccines in the country" was completely destroyed in the 1990s, "there is NO chance of recovery."
  17. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 31 August 2020 09: 15 New
    0
    The official stated that held a conversation with representatives of the pharmaceutical business - heads of enterprises with special certification for the production of vaccines.

    Which sent him to hell, because during an epidemic, it is more profitable to sell vaccines to the West than to negotiate something with the poor and corrupt state "404", especially since there are no restrictions on the export of vaccines, and pharmacology in Ukraine (its remnants) probably belongs to senior comrades ...
  18. RUnnm
    RUnnm 31 August 2020 09: 27 New
    -2
    )))) Excuse me, but with the accumulative principle, what will change?)))) Nothing. Therefore, from the very beginning I said - it is necessary to look at the number of identified tests.
    ... One in ten was determined by tests - there will be one in five, three and so on.

    -)))) But how could you diagnose him without a test?))) The diagnosis is confirmed by the test
  19. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 31 August 2020 10: 26 New
    -2
    There is a minister, there is no medicine! Ulianka-death has reached the goal :-)
    But what about the Lugar (Pentagon) death laboratories?
    Why are they located in Myzdobulsk?
    Let them make vaccines against obscurantism, fascism and Nazism, worse than measles and COVID, destroying the remnants of the former luxury of the Ukrainian SSR. Sukhsan just in case.
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 31 August 2020 10: 56 New
    0
    According to the Minister of Health of Ukraine Maxim Stepanov, the production of vaccines in the country "was completely destroyed in the 1990s."

    As always, Maxim Stepanov is brewing!
    In Ukraine, there was a wonderful seller of democracy, Oksana Suprun, who carried out a jewelry reform of the country's health care according to Western patterns. Now she can be smeared instead of brilliant green, pricked like inoculations, or just apply her photo to a sore spot, they will heal instantly!
  21. Prisoner
    Prisoner 31 August 2020 11: 03 New
    +1
    Well, what, why the "independent" Soviet legacy? As part of the rejection of the Soviet past, and fell. Desovetization is yours, so sip a full spoon.