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Ukrainian company received a patent for a helicopter with a hybrid power plant

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The Ukrainian company "Vector" has received a patent for a helicopter with a hybrid power plant. The helicopter engine is capable of running on both hydrocarbon fuel and electricity. The company says that the helicopter will be equipped with backup batteries, which will be used in certain cases during piloting, which will ensure safety in the event of emergency situations.


From the statement of a company representative:

In the case of using small backup batteries and automatic emergency landing systems, the reliability of such helicopters will exceed all current safety standards.

Noteworthy is a further statement from representatives of the Ukrainian "Vector". It says that the company is now looking for an investor who could finance the creation of a hybrid helicopter. It was announced that the investments "will be invested in the development of Ukrainian production."

It is added that the company "Vector" is also engaged in the creation of a 4-seater multipurpose helicopter VM-4 "Bumblebee" and other modifications of rotary-wing vehicles, including helicopters for the police and medical services. The director of the company, Yegor Shishenko, speaks of "looking for opportunities to enter foreign markets and foreign investments."

The company says it is striving to create a helicopter that could compete with the Robinson R44 helicopter.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 30 August 2020 09: 58
    +4
    They will be supplied to Europe and the USA.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 30 August 2020 10: 27
      +8
      Quote: Pessimist22
      They will be supplied to Europe and the USA.


      These chtoli?
      http://ak-vector.com/conn.php


      Where will they collect? Svyatoshinskaya st. 125, 3rd floor. At this address?
      1. 210ox
        210ox 30 August 2020 10: 36
        +1
        Reincarnation of "Research Institute" of the national battalion "Azov"
        1. Husit
          Husit 30 August 2020 10: 47
          -13 qualifying.
          Quote: 210ox
          Reincarnation of "Research Institute" of the national battalion "Azov"

          Like a new "tourist tour", shelling of "Russian villages" from helicopters ..
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 30 August 2020 11: 56
            0
            Quote: 210ox
            Reincarnation of "Research Institute" of the national battalion "Azov"


            Quote: Husit
            Like a new "tourist tour", shelling of "Russian villages" from helicopters ..


            "Research Institute" of the national battalion "Azov" is not at all that, and not about that No.




            The development of the armored vehicle began on its own initiative in April 2015, the design and construction was carried out by the engineering group of the Azov NSU regiment (head of the engineering group, designer Bogdan Zvarich; chief designer of the engineering group S. N. Stepanov; chief consultant - former chief engineer and chief designer Kharkov Armored Repair Plant N.M.Stepanov, who had experience working at the Malyshev plant; adviser Zaur Berianidze), as well as servicemen of the armed forces of Ukraine who took part in hostilities in eastern Ukraine.

            The project was financed using extrabudgetary funds, donations and sponsorship. The construction of the armored vehicle took place on the territory of the training base of the Azov regiment - in the shops of the Kiev ATEK plant, which had been producing tractors and excavators before bankruptcy.

            The source of the chassis for the Azovets armored vehicle was a bulldozer, previously made from a demilitarized T-64 tank. The GSh-23 guns for installation in tower modules were brought from the combat zone.
    2. RUnnm
      RUnnm 30 August 2020 10: 53
      0
      Yeah ... in the intervals between the deliveries of "Maria" and "Azovets", unless the workforce chooses export quotas earlier.
      1. Just Alexander
        Just Alexander 30 August 2020 11: 14
        0
        Yes, it is natural that they will not move beyond a project that is stupidly done on a computer.
        1. iConst
          iConst 30 August 2020 15: 08
          +1
          Quote: Just Alexander
          Yes, it is natural that they will not move beyond a project that is stupidly done on a computer.

          We are not talking about the project at all - they only patented the solution.
          Anything can be patented. Even a quantum reducer for ant-man. Nobody will check the performance. The main thing is that the described method is not previously patented by someone else.

          The project (as a set of documentation) is later, which is also not super difficult. And even R&D only implies that the output should be a result. Including the negative one - "Well, I didn't, I didn't!"

          As I understand it, the key point is the hybrid power plant (engine). And to make the shell at the level of modern technologies - like two fingers on the asphalt (send two bytes).
          1. Old Man
            Old Man 30 August 2020 21: 50
            0
            the overweight shell will not fly far, or you will have to throw out a couple of passengers before takeoff.
    3. Mouse
      Mouse 30 August 2020 12: 08
      +2
      It would be that ....
      Mriya ???
      1. Husit
        Husit 30 August 2020 13: 18
        +1
        Quote: Mouse
        It would be that ....
        Mriya ???

        Don't rub salt on the wound .... What happened and what happened on the outskirts!

        Shame in the fall of EVERYTHING, which no other country in the world has experienced and such betrayal of fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers, in the name of grub and slavery ..
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 30 August 2020 13: 39
          +3
          in the name of grub and slavery ..

          I would say ... kneeling ... but the fact is that no one forced them ...
          chose for yourself, decide for yourself ...
          to be or not to be ... or under whom to be?
          that is the question...
          1. Husit
            Husit 30 August 2020 14: 55
            -1
            Quote: Mouse
            in the name of grub and slavery ..

            I would say ... kneeling ... but the fact is that no one forced them ...
            chose for yourself, decide for yourself ...
            to be or not to be ... or under whom to be?
            that is the question...

            The minority chose the "zapadnenets goat herders" in Kiev, all gathered on the Maidan, and the majority were silently afraid, except for Donbass and Odessa which they simply burned and beat them with bats in the corners under the silent observation of firefighters and police with security officials (Berkut was soaked)
            But they were afraid to go to Crimea with their "friendship" train, they jumped out, they say, and the train came empty with bottles of moonshine and vomit, they would have been met there, even before the polite ones appeared ..
            Is my hut on the edge? Well, let them endure and hide the fat))))

            Here it is the second powerful Army in Europe was, after the collapse of the USSR .. And what has become? Ugh damn it.
            Debriefing will definitely be with the "brothers" .. According to Sudoplatov's method! soldier
          2. Clear
            Clear 30 August 2020 15: 00
            +3
            Quote: Mouse
            to be or not to be...?
            that is the question...

            Their answer - sell out!

            Greetings, Vasily love
            1. Mouse
              Mouse 30 August 2020 15: 13
              +1
              Clear! Kisses to the hands! love
              Glad to see you!
              Their answer is to sell!

              Not their option ...
              wink
        2. user1212
          user1212 30 August 2020 15: 16
          +1
          Quote: Husit
          What happened and what happened on the outskirts!

          Was that? Respecting the glorious history of the Antonov Design Bureau and many other aviation enterprises of Ukraine, let's not forget that the same Mriya is the result of the work of the entire aircraft industry of the Union, and not of Ukraine alone. Ukraine alone could NEVER design and build such an aircraft, and the Antonov Design Bureau itself is Ukrainian only in terms of geographical location, but not in essence
          1. Husit
            Husit 30 August 2020 15: 36
            -1
            Quote: user1212
            Respecting the glorious history of the Antonov Design Bureau and many other aviation enterprises of Ukraine, let's not forget that the same Mriya is the result of the work of the entire aircraft industry of the Union, and not of Ukraine alone. Ukraine alone could NEVER design and build such an aircraft, and the Antonov Design Bureau itself is Ukrainian only in terms of geographical location, but not in essence

            That's it ! the same "Motor Sich" All stopped communicating with the damned, ruined under amerskim control, etc. The space industry, IT'S GENERAL tears that they did to it for the evil of Russia !!!!!!

            Take the example of Belarus! They kept production and even increased production to the world level .. The same Belaz quarry 10% of world production and this is a state with a population of 10 million. .Well, tractors and so on all over Russia are hard workers, simple repair and mobile, etc.
            Armaments are also participating in space programs in Russia ..! And as food products from Belarus gost to the provinces rarely reach the provinces, in Moscow EVERYONE eats, and we have the remains ... from the master's table and other Polish artifact ..
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    4. vVvAD
      vVvAD 30 August 2020 16: 26
      -1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      They will be supplied to Europe and the USA.

      Yes Yes.
    5. venik
      venik 30 August 2020 20: 35
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      They will be supplied to Europe and the USA.

      ========
      There will be! ..... Maybe ..... Then ...... If they manage to establish a serial production ......
      1. vVvAD
        vVvAD 31 August 2020 23: 11
        0
        And Europeans will queue up to finance a competitor laughing
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 30 August 2020 09: 59
    -1
    It’s not that hard to find an investor in half-impoverished Ukraine ... So, the maximum is a prototype!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 August 2020 10: 22
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      It’s not that hard to find an investor in half-impoverished Ukraine ... So, the maximum is a prototype!

      Wow what ... "Leader", is it you belay belay belay ?
      Where is your traditional - " In Ukraine, not everything is as unambiguous as they write in VO, because ..."And"bury early"(posts about shovels)?

      What happened to your puppy death? Something big died?
      1. Maverick78
        Maverick78 30 August 2020 14: 48
        +1
        The leader has long since recovered his sight) In Ukraine, really, not everything is as bad as they write on some Russian resources. But in terms of high-tech production, the scribe is complete ... and the prospects are not yet foreseen
    2. Husit
      Husit 30 August 2020 13: 06
      -5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      It’s not that hard to find an investor in half-impoverished Ukraine ... So, the maximum is a prototype!

      And drawings with documentation to China .. laughing And then they can return it, it seems that they already exist))))
  3. mat-vey
    mat-vey 30 August 2020 10: 03
    +2
    How much will such a battery weigh? Will there be room for passengers-cargo?
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 30 August 2020 10: 22
      -11 qualifying.
      Quote: mat-vey
      How much will such a battery weigh? Will there be room for passengers-cargo?
      You have a very old idea of ​​the modern capabilities of batteries. This is not an akamulator with a KAMAZ of the 80s. laughing So for example, two friends bought them on their bikes. Only even more modern than what is on the video. Now at work they drive on one charge all day long on detours in the Sochi mountains good
      So their development is really interesting.
      the helicopter will be equipped with backup batteries, which will be used in certain cases during piloting, which will ensure safety in the event of emergency situations.
      It is very interesting and a plus for flight safety.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 30 August 2020 10: 30
        +7
        Quote: Observer2014
        You have a very old idea of ​​the modern capabilities of batteries. This is not an akamulator with a KAMAZ of the 80s.

        For a helicopter, a propeller is both a supporting element and a propeller - what kind of power is needed, what current ... and the gearbox will add more weight ...
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 30 August 2020 10: 36
          -13 qualifying.
          Quote: mat-vey
          Quote: Observer2014
          You have a very old idea of ​​the modern capabilities of batteries. This is not an akamulator with a KAMAZ of the 80s.

          For a helicopter, a propeller is both a supporting element and a propeller - what kind of power is needed, what current ... and the gearbox will add more weight ...

          I posted a video for you. Have you seen it? You could have imagined this even 20-15 years ago? I am silent about the cordless electric tool. And the Tesla car? laughing Yes, I personally spent years running on battery-powered little cars in Krasnaya Polyana for work, even as I was doing 60 km per hour in light! 5 people comfortably pull their heads from the mountains. All day long on charging. So here.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 30 August 2020 10: 39
            +1
            Quote: Observer2014
            So here.

            As you please ...
          2. dauria
            dauria 30 August 2020 11: 16
            +9
            I am silent about the cordless electric tool. And the Tesla car?

            specific characteristics: Li-ion accumulators 360-648 kJ / kg
            Kerosene 43500 kJ / kg
            Even with a turbine / electric motor efficiency ratio of 30 to 90%
            the battery loses 40 times ... As soon as the required power (and for a helicopter it is 1 horse per two and a half kg of flight weight) exceeds 5 horses, the electric engine loses its weight and price advantages. It is used only there, where you can't smoke laughing
            And about the reliability is ridiculous. Private traders are not fighting because of engine failure,
            but because of a combination of ignorance and self-confidence.
            As an example - a miniature turboshaft English gas turbine engine for helicopter models under 20 kg.
            2 kg, 10 horses, carrying diameter 3 meters, Fuel consumption: about 180-220 ml / min (at full load)
            Fuel: Kerosene Jet A1, TC 1
      2. Husit
        Husit 30 August 2020 13: 09
        -3
        Quote: Observer2014
        So for example, two friends bought them on their bikes. Only even more modern than what is on the video. Now at work they drive on one charge all day long on detours in the Sochi mountains

        I've seen such wheelchairs, dear ones, but something quickly disappears when the battery runs out completely .. Bukalno enough for a couple of months. Pure show-off !!!!
        And it's already expensive to buy a new one.
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 30 August 2020 13: 38
          -6
          Quote: Husit
          Quote: Observer2014
          So for example, two friends bought them on their bikes. Only even more modern than what is on the video. Now at work they drive on one charge all day long on detours in the Sochi mountains

          I've seen such wheelchairs, dear ones, but something quickly disappears when the battery runs out completely .. Bukalno enough for a couple of months. Pure show-off !!!!
          And it's already expensive to buy a new one.

          When will you start reading the article? What is the article about? About a patent for an invention! Moreover, the article says in black and white that
          company "Vector" received a patent on a helicopter with a hybrid power plant. The helicopter engine is capable of running on both hydrocarbon fuel and electricity. The company says that the helicopter will be equipped with backup batteries, which and will be used in certain cases during piloting, which will ensure safety in case of emergency situations.
          The helicopter will not fly on electric energy. It will not. And it will not "land" on autorotation. Although it will be able to if the batteries are closed. And on electricity to make a controlled smooth landing. This is the whole point of the article and the invention is. Is it a scratch when everything in its place was not scary or is not a joke, all these delusional comments on this article? Not yours specifically. hi Look around and re-read all the HYIP nonsense. We are on VO. And not on second-rate sites. And what's the difference whose invention it is. Ours or not ours. Ukrainian or Japanese.
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 30 August 2020 10: 25
      +3
      Ah, the batteries will roll on the cart after the helicopter ... yes or dragging along ... in a balloon ... what
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 30 August 2020 10: 50
        -4
        Quote: Snail N9
        And, the batteries will roll on a trolley after the helicopter ... or drag them along ... in a balloon ...


        Don't reinvent the wheel. Everything was invented a long time ago.

  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 August 2020 10: 04
    +4
    Well, well ... I remember the Ukrainian "guintocril" proudly presented some years ago. A very impressive piece. Because of him, I reviewed all the episodes of the MES Hospital in one day. laughing
    And then the batteries and the electric engine just for landing? What's the point in this case? How much will the weight of the helicopter increase and, accordingly, will the weight of the payload decrease?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 August 2020 10: 52
      -1
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      And then the batteries and the electric engine just for landing? What's the point in this case? How much will the weight of the helicopter increase and, accordingly, will the weight of the payload decrease?

      Just like an anecdote about a steam locomotive in which all the steam went to the whistle yes
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 30 August 2020 13: 35
        -7
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: Stroibat stock
        And then the batteries and the electric engine just for landing? What's the point in this case? How much will the weight of the helicopter increase and, accordingly, will the weight of the payload decrease?

        Just like an anecdote about a steam locomotive in which all the steam went to the whistle yes

        How are we different? Where does all the steam go? Or are the troops already packed with supplies of new weapons? Also, only prototype and exhibition samples, and some are not even in metal, only loud statements and animation, and the projectors are even more incredible.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 30 August 2020 13: 41
          +3
          Quote: lis-ik
          How are we different? Where does all the steam go? Or are the troops already packed with supplies of new weapons?


          Reminds - " we have one rifle for five"

          Differ yes , and strikingly yes ,for the better.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 30 August 2020 14: 02
            -5
            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: lis-ik
            How are we different? Where does all the steam go? Or are the troops already packed with supplies of new weapons?


            Reminds - " we have one rifle for five"

            Differ yes , and strikingly yes ,for the better.

            Don't be unfounded. Give an example of the delivery of Su-57, T-14, "Boomerang" to the troops, and much of what they talked about (I can't say any softer) in the news and from the high stands. About all sorts of "Poseidons", "Petrel" and "Peresvet", it is better to keep silent altogether, the real situation there is very bad. They cannot even build for themselves (their own needs) the atomic icebreakers "Arktika" (there should already be three codes for how to surf the open spaces), "Siberia", "Ural".
            1. BDRM 667
              BDRM 667 30 August 2020 15: 26
              0
              Quote: lis-ik
              They can't even build nuclear icebreakers for themselves (their needs)

              "They"? Are you writing from some near abroad, or do you simply not consider yourself involved in the processes taking place in the country?"
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 30 August 2020 15: 43
                -6
                Quote: BDRM 667
                Quote: lis-ik
                They can't even build nuclear icebreakers for themselves (their needs)

                "They"? Are you writing from some near abroad, or do you simply not consider yourself involved in the processes taking place in the country?"

                I do not consider myself involved in the ruling gang of thieves. And I love and respect my country and people, moreover, having the means, I basically rest only within my country. Tomorrow I'll go to Crimea by car again. But your community cheers for patriots, and did not bring the facts of the arrival of new technology in the troops, and not the fragments of the USSR.
                1. BDRM 667
                  BDRM 667 30 August 2020 15: 52
                  +3
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  Tomorrow I'll go to Crimea by car again.

                  On the Crimean bridge, which was built by "Oni", along the highway "Tavrida", which was built by "Oni", to the Russian Crimea, which "They" returned, and some "peoples of Russia" have nothing to do with it ???

                  Are they blowing themselves up with the last grenade in Syria, so as not to surrender to the enemy, are they also, not flesh of the people, pilots?
                  1. lis-ik
                    lis-ik 30 August 2020 16: 02
                    -5
                    Quote: BDRM 667
                    Quote: lis-ik
                    Tomorrow I'll go to Crimea by car again.

                    On the Crimean bridge, which was built by "Oni", along the highway "Tavrida", which was built by "Oni", to the Russian Crimea, which "They" returned, and some "peoples of Russia" have nothing to do with it ???

                    Are they blowing themselves up with the last grenade in Syria, so as not to surrender to the enemy, are they also, not flesh of the people, pilots?

                    Yes. All you can do is juggle. Remind me what else did "they" do? Or look on the Internet yourself, about the real sector of the economy, about useless pipelines, about the fishing and oil tanker fleet, which was no longer sold under Yeltsin. About the optimization of medicine (I know not by hearsay), about the chatter at the international level and not fulfilling their own ultimatums, about the white flags of the Olympics. Probably enough already. And about the pilots. Tell me, who are we really fighting with there, just don't talk about international terrorism. I think again for their interests!
                    1. Boris Chernikov
                      Boris Chernikov 31 August 2020 00: 15
                      -1
                      most importantly, do not forget to roll the boyars ... and then later you will have to remember about the S-400, and about the su-35, and about the third Buki ... because it's always easier to tell from the sofa what they are all bad and what they did not do ... by the way , and someone's in "their Crimea" and across "their bridge" and along "their route" ... Or is it something else?)
                      1. BDRM 667
                        BDRM 667 31 August 2020 08: 23
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris Chernikov
                        and someone's in "their Crimea"

                        Quote: BDRM 667
                        to Russian Crimea

                        "THEIR Crimea"Whose is this, in your opinion? I clearly marked Crimea Russian, and nobody else yes
                      2. Boris Chernikov
                        Boris Chernikov 31 August 2020 12: 22
                        +1
                        and Fox has someone else ... maybe there is a forelock sticking out at all
  5. Masha
    Masha 30 August 2020 13: 50
    +5
    Ukrainian "guintocryl"

    but where is he to the Mirny Soviet tractor ... wassat
    1. Clear
      Clear 30 August 2020 15: 09
      0
      Quote: Masha
      Ukrainian "guintocryl"

      but where is he to the Mirny Soviet tractor ... wassat


      Hello Masha love

      Russian Warriors do not stand still in equipment yes
      1. Masha
        Masha 30 August 2020 15: 33
        +3
        Hi, Yasnaya! love
        Forward! And only before !!!

        In spite of failures, in spite of turmoil,
        Whatever happens to you - do not lose heart.
        It happens that the nose, knees, belly,
        Well, everyone should be discouraged, but don't be discouraged !!! yes
        1. Clear
          Clear 30 August 2020 19: 48
          0
          Quote: Masha
          Hi, Yasnaya! love
          Forward! And only before !!!

          In spite of failures, in spite of turmoil,
          Whatever happens to you - do not lose heart.
          It happens that the nose, knees, belly,
          Well, everyone should be discouraged, but don't be discouraged !!! yes

          Golden words good
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 30 August 2020 10: 04
    +2
    Ours make a coaxial in this size. Robinson's laurels keep anyone awake
    1. Wwk7260
      Wwk7260 30 August 2020 11: 18
      -3
      This is the layout of which was announced at MAKS2019 as an air taxi? since then there has been silence about him. For air taxi, the coaxial scheme is successful in terms of compactness, but the noise from it is increased.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 30 August 2020 13: 26
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Ours make a coaxial in this size.

      Ours, and not only ours, in this case (emergency landing) use the autorotation mode. But Ukraine is going its own way.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 August 2020 10: 12
    +3
    In the krai, there are universities that train specialists for aircraft and helicopter structures. Tomorrow we will create such a project to replace it, the ventilation wing does not need to fly, the most important is the project. drinks
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 30 August 2020 10: 32
      -3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      In the krai, there are universities that train specialists for aircraft and helicopter structures. Tomorrow we will create such a project to replace it, the ventilation wing does not need to fly, the most important is the project. drinks

      Do not forget to post it on topvar.ru, you will look for investors yes
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 30 August 2020 10: 35
        +3
        Already to the master, I will have a pedal emergency drive for the screw. They are "pedal horses". If you want to live, turn the pedals! drinks
        1. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 30 August 2020 10: 43
          +5
          good You ... be careful, with innovative ideas in open sources, there are a lot of "observers", descendants of Kozat horses, they will change the patent, and your pedal drive cried.
    2. Russ
      Russ 30 August 2020 12: 33
      +1
      the fan wing does not need to fly, the most important thing is the project.

      Excuse me, but ... knock out money for the project ... IMHO hi
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 30 August 2020 10: 23
    +3
    Who needs a useless payload?
    The main thing is to stir up the movement.
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 30 August 2020 10: 28
    0
    the company is now looking for an investor who could finance the creation of a hybrid helicopter. It was announced that the investments "will be invested in the development of Ukrainian production."

    Their ruins of the Nikolaev shipyards, empty workshops of Yuzhamash, Antonov, etc. do not teach them anything. Nobody needs competitors !!!! They will devour and not choke. They will buy for a pittance and kill all production on the outskirts.
  • iouris
    iouris 30 August 2020 10: 42
    +1
    Write on the question on sho kankretna issued (received) a patent?
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 30 August 2020 10: 49
      +2
      Yak on sho, on guntocril, with rokhs and hoards, on batteries. Pennies e?
  • Husit
    Husit 30 August 2020 10: 42
    -2
    The company says it is striving to create a helicopter that could compete with the Robinson R44 helicopter.

    Well, they will buy them with giblets .. They do not need competitors!
    It was announced that the investments "will be invested in the development of Ukrainian production."

    There is no production in Ukraine anymore .... Don't tell the people!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 August 2020 10: 55
    +2
    The idea is, in principle, sound, but how much will the electric / engine with batteries weigh?
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 30 August 2020 11: 01
      0
      Teslovsky weighs about the same as the Robinson R44 ..
  • Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 30 August 2020 11: 06
    0
    I saw in the UT video a helicopter of this company (not a hybrid) very interesting, with a spass system. if the price is 10-15% lower than Robertson, success is possible. A hybrid is not yet relevant.
    It is customary here to laugh over Ukraine and not to discuss seriously any technical news from there objectively, meanwhile in Kiev they are building (not An) very successful light aircraft Aeroprakt, in a good series. They are very common at Russian airfields.
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 30 August 2020 11: 28
      -3
      Quote: Wwk7260
      It is customary to laugh over Ukraine here

      And rightly so, for skakuas.
      Quote: Wwk7260
      in Kiev they are building (not An) very successful light aircraft Aeroprakt, in a good series. They are very common at Russian airfields.

      I don't believe (© Stanislavsky)
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 30 August 2020 15: 16
      0
      Quote: Wwk7260
      I saw in the UT video a helicopter of this company (not a hybrid) very interesting, with a spass system. if the price is 10-15% lower than Robertson, success is possible. A hybrid is not yet relevant.
      It is customary here to laugh over Ukraine and not to discuss seriously any technical news from there objectively, meanwhile in Kiev they are building (not An) very successful light aircraft Aeroprakt, in a good series. They are very common at Russian airfields.

      Well, that's why they pass off old Soviet helicopters as "newest" developments and bought decommissioned Canadian (sort of) helicopters. The hypocrisy of the VO - the bastards are shelling the Donbass. They make military equipment and so on - well done. Ugh.
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 30 August 2020 11: 25
    -3
    The name of the company is symbolic: http://lurkmore.to/Vector
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  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 30 August 2020 11: 43
    -2
    They are looking for an "investor" and immediately think about "entering international markets." My little girl said in such cases, "Get off the mare - you will break your back")
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 30 August 2020 11: 46
    0
    Yeah, in addition to fuel, they will also carry a huge weight of batteries. Aren't they tired of inventing empty things?
  • Mouse
    Mouse 30 August 2020 12: 03
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    The Ukrainian company "Vector" has received a patent for a helicopter with a hybrid power plant.

    the company is now looking for an investor who could finance the creation of a hybrid helicopter.

    Sur ... just sur ... yes
  • Avior
    Avior 30 August 2020 12: 16
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    A good idea for light helicopters to ensure a safe landing in the event of engine failure and other problems.
    The batteries will not be heavy - you only need to land the helicopter, it is a matter of minutes, especially if a map of the city with possible landing sites has been drawn up in advance, for air taxi this is important, an emergency happened - he pointed his finger and the navigator took him to the nearest accessible site for an emergency landing.
    The engine will also be compact and light - it is for short-term operation, which means it can work with overload.
    Modern synchronous motors can take a compact form, they can operate at different speeds while maintaining torque, it is possible to put it after the helicopter gearbox to ensure maximum reliability.
    The electric motor will also help in other cases - when climbing, gusts of wind, and so on. This is fuel economy, by the way.
    It seems more logical, it seems, to be produced not in the form of a helicopter, but in the form of an additional device for conventional helicopters, which is relatively easy to integrate into existing helicopters.
    In Ukraine, it is clear that there will be no demand, this is money.
    But in the west it is quite, if it is efficient, of course.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 30 August 2020 13: 30
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      A good idea for light helicopters to ensure a safe landing in the event of engine failure and other problems.
      Read about autorotation and don't torture yourself with projections. The parasitic weight of the additional engine and batteries is only negative there.
      1. Avior
        Avior 30 August 2020 13: 47
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        I know about autorotation.
        But there are many limitations.
        In height, at the place of landing, you will not land to the side, but for air taxi over the city it is important, and not only over the city.
        And the weight of the lines is negative, of course, but the safety will increase, here you can choose what is more important.
        For a helicopter built from scratch, options are also possible - one or two engines, which will save weight.
        It depends on the weight of the batteries and the engine, you need to look in detail.
  • vladimych
    vladimych 30 August 2020 12: 18
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    Quote: Wwk7260
    I saw in the UT video a helicopter of this company (not a hybrid) very interesting, with a spass system. if the price is 10-15% lower than Robertson, success is possible. A hybrid is not yet relevant.
    It is customary here to laugh over Ukraine and not to discuss seriously any technical news from there objectively, meanwhile in Kiev they are building (not An) very successful light aircraft Aeroprakt, in a good series. They are very common at Russian airfields.

    With a motor from a moped or snowmobile? This is a homemade club.
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 30 August 2020 12: 22
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    Hmm ... I have mixed feelings about this project. I am piloting the Robinson R 44 directly, I will share a couple of points.

    1. First, they have a three-bladed main rotor with a diameter of 8,25 m, while Robinson has a two-bladed main rotor with a diameter of 10 m. This is a different mass of the main rotor, obviously. The three-bladed one is more complicated and more expensive, but also safer (in the sense that it is less likely to cut off the tail boom during maneuvers with unloading the propeller, which are prohibited on this machine). The fatigue characteristics of the two-bladed one are worse (after the fools who, spitting on the airplane transmission line, twist almost "dead loops" on them, can break, this happened), but with proper operation, timely maintenance and replacement, everything is fine.

    Robinson has practically reference weight characteristics for this class (although there are objections, including those flying on them wink ). There is nothing superfluous in it, the effectiveness has been tested by time.

    2. Maximum takeoff weight and payload.
    Robinson has 1089 and 380 kg.
    The "competitor" has 1000 and 480 kg.
    Think, correlate ...

    I dare not believe it! More than 100 kilos added for investors, at least bully

    2. The question of engines.
    Robinson:
    Lycoming O-540 with 260 hp - good engine. Trusted him with my life wink
    He is there alone, carburetor or injection (Raven I and II). Fuel
    100LL.

    The vector "miracle":
    Demand for dviguns, candidate 2 x 145 = 290 ...
    At the same time, they write about both 100LL and diesel - they are different, with different weights. There is no certainty.

    That is, it is twin-engine according to the project!
    This is taking into account the declared take-off weight and dimensions ... DOSVIDOS! Their parameters are unrealistic.

    Plus, there is no hybridity on the site. So what can be with investments.

    3. Pleased with the doors opening upward in the form of a horizontal plane! lol Right under the rotor! This is a bomb laughing
    A blow to the head is assured ... The pilot introduced a correction, who did not leave the evil Pinocchio himself.
    Well, with such doors, you cannot evacuate and do not jump with a parachute - in flight they will not be opened, you will have to overpower the flow from the main rotor.


    In general, there is more to say, but enough for now. It is damp and somehow amateurish things are there.
    Although this is the first attempt, it is usually not very successful for everyone.
    1. Old Man
      Old Man 30 August 2020 22: 06
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      with such a "first attempt" the matter will not reach the second, and thank God, this is necessary, - to destroy a potential investor on landing, but it seems like they were going to save :)
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 30 August 2020 12: 24
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    As always, loud and magnificent statements, in fact, a couple of pieces will build and calm down
    1. RealPilot
      RealPilot 30 August 2020 12: 53
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      It is important not even to build, but to achieve competitiveness and efficiency. And the question is the price.
      Well, plus what kind of avionics to install - the price / quality ratio strongly depends on it.

      This was one of the problems of the Soviet aircraft industry (which I am, of course, proud of, and which I value and respect).
      Penny kerosene, its own closed system of flights and services, very high internal standards - everything worked like a clock.

      But competition in secondary (!) Parameters, such as noise, efficiency, comfort of a three-class cabin layout (where serving on good dishes, French cognac, champagne, etc.) turned out to be a problem for our aviation industry. I'm not talking about collusion with foreigners to break it down negative

      And in the post-Soviet space, it can be done efficiently, efficiently and inexpensively, but for our market (the experience of China once again confirms this).
      The An-2 and Mi-2, for example, were good, but not so glamorous.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 30 August 2020 13: 35
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        These are all words, in the bottom of the horseradish they will put this product on the stream.
  • Eug
    Eug 30 August 2020 12: 38
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    Reliability will be increased at the cost of increasing the weight of the power plant .. what's so innovative?
  • Nestor
    Nestor 30 August 2020 12: 50
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    Once a patent was received, it means there was something to patent! There is such crap as patent law and if you use something from this patent, you must unfasten the copyright holder of this patent
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 30 August 2020 13: 45
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      It looks like you've never dealt with patents. On 95% there is patented rubbish and inoperative delirium. What is voiced in these percentages just falls.
      1. Nestor
        Nestor 30 August 2020 14: 58
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        I didn't have, but I read that the use of patented solutions, nodes, etc., is allowed only with the consent of the author and with appropriate remuneration or direct and indirect deductions (ideally) laughing
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 30 August 2020 15: 01
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          Well, this is if the patent is workable, and they are there with gulkin (a word of three letters). The nose, that is.
  • thinker
    thinker 30 August 2020 13: 14
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    Quote: iouris
    has a patent been issued (received) for sho?

    Utility model patent! yes
    A utility model is a legal concept that characterizes a technical device that does not always have an inventive step (which is one of the indicators of the patentability of an invention), but is capable of contributing to the development of the prior art for the same purpose, i.e. possess novelty, and be industrially applicable.

    https://viafuture.ru/sozdanie-startapa/poleznaya-model
  • rocket757
    rocket757 30 August 2020 13: 20
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    Until it flies, there's nothing to talk about.
    If, suddenly, it flies, then it will be possible to assess the feasibility of building this pepelats.
  • Saint
    Saint 30 August 2020 14: 14
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    [/ quote] The helicopter engine is capable of running on both hydrocarbon fuel and electricity. The company says that the helicopter will be equipped with backup batteries, which [quote]

    I even remembered a bearded anecdote:
    A man walks down the street and drags two huge suitcases, they ask him:
    - Man, what time can you tell me?
    The man put his suitcases on the ground and looked at the watch on his hand:
    - 15 hours 38 minutes, 44 seconds, 56 microseconds, 16 nanoseconds.
    - Eh, you have a good watch!
    - The watch is good, but the batteries for them are too heavy, inconvenient
    carry!
  • Alien From
    Alien From 30 August 2020 14: 21
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    Give them only investments, then everything will be as usual ....)))
  • Campanella
    Campanella 30 August 2020 14: 37
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    What does it mean got a patent? The first or what? )))
  • APASUS
    APASUS 30 August 2020 19: 38
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    The company says that the helicopter will be equipped with backup batteries, which will be used in certain cases during piloting, which will ensure safety in the event of emergency situations.

    If the car and the screws are not damaged, then even at the school they teach to plant the car by the autorotation method, and if damaged .................... no fucking hybrids will help
  • agoran
    agoran 30 August 2020 20: 02
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    Well, it's stupid.
    Look, the power from the turboshaft engine is transmitted through the gearbox to the screws.
    Next, you need something like a clutch in order to switch traction, the email itself. dv-l and this is the weight and plus the battery, you can forget about the payload.
    1. Avior
      Avior 30 August 2020 20: 55
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      No, it is not necessary.
      The electric motor can be directly on the shaft
      1. agoran
        agoran 30 August 2020 21: 00
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        Apparently not email. the engine, and the rotor.
        But not the essence, but this is the mass, which the engine needs to be turned in the normal mode.
        Then, in emergency mode, again you need to twist the no longer working mass.
        As I said - stupidity.
        1. Avior
          Avior 30 August 2020 21: 07
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          In comparison with the mass of the gearbox and the main motor, given to this shaft, it will be very small.
          The main part of the mass - the copper of the windings and the iron of the stator, is outside the rotor and will not affect the moment of inertia.
          In fact, there will be only magnets with attachments on the shaft.
          1. agoran
            agoran 30 August 2020 21: 21
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            // The main part of the mass - the copper of the windings and the iron of the stator, is outside the rotor and will not affect the moment of inertia.
            In fact, there will only be magnets with attachments on the shaft.
            That's what I'm talking about too.
            All this crap you need to constantly carry with you, plus the battery.
            And what's left for the payload?
            Now it's lazy, tomorrow at work I can calculate, but even offhand - nonsense, well, there is no point in making the structure heavier.
            1. Avior
              Avior 30 August 2020 22: 05
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              If half the engine power - 130 HP is enough for landing, in fact I am sure that less, let the experts correct me, this is 100 kW ,.
              In short-term operation, a synchronous machine provides an overload 3 times, and sometimes more.
              That is, you need a motor with a continuous power of 30 kW.
              A general industrial synchronous motor of this power weighs 40-45 kilograms, a special one will not be worse, but clearly better in terms of performance.
              What batteries are needed?
              We consider 100 kW of power to be provided for three minutes, that is, you need 5 kW * h.
              A good 35000 mAh powerbank is 100 W * h. (I do not propose to power the helicopter with powerbanks, just for clarity of calculating the capacity, volume and weight of the required batteries). That is, to provide 100 kW of power, three minutes for an emergency landing requires energy equivalent to 50 power banks.
              As in my opinion not so much, it is quite realistic if security requirements are met.
              And how it really will be, we'll see, time will tell.
              hi
  • Old Man
    Old Man 30 August 2020 20: 38
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    have seen enough of quadrocopters)) much more efficient wings like a glider to "sprinkle" the weight is the same as that of the batteries, and the chances of flying away from their collective farm are much greater ...
    To carry an electric motor and a heavy battery instead of an additional tank and a second engine is not only useless, but bordering on insanity - everyone is fighting for fuel efficiency, and then it is voluntarily eliminated. At the same time, the reliability of the main units does not change, but rather completely decreases.

    In general, the patent is similar to another 100501th toothbrush