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Zelensky called for an investigation into the events of the "Ilovaisky boiler"

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The first monument to those killed in the Ilovaisk boiler was unveiled in Ukraine. It is noteworthy that now it is the term "Ilovaiskiy pot" that is increasingly used in media reports, although initially the defeat of the Ukrainian army was designated by all sorts of terms, including "withdrawal to prepared positions."


The monument was opened in the homeland of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky - in Krivoy Rog. The opening was attended by those who managed to get their feet out of Ilovaisk. The commander of the Ukrainian security forces unit "Kryvbas" Oleksandr Motriy, speaking at the opening of the monument, said that "he could not return all the guys to their wives, children and mothers."

Motrius:

When we walked, I promised that I would return everyone. But no one then thought that there would be artillery, "Grads", "Hurricanes", mortars.

An interesting statement ... The Ukrainian battalion commander does not mention the fact that the Ukrainian security forces themselves were advancing to Ilovaisk in heavy equipment, but says that the use of artillery against them was a "surprise" for him.

Motrius:

We all had life spinning before our eyes from beginning to end.

The same Motriy said that the Ilovaisk case should be in court.

President of Ukraine Zelensky also called on to investigate what happened near Ilovaisk. From his words:

No matter how bitter the truth is, law enforcement must show the result. I know that the Department of War was created in the General Prosecutor's Office precisely to investigate such high-profile cases. Let's hope that they will step forward in this direction.

To date, the official Ukrainian reports on losses in the Ilovaisk boiler are as follows: 366 dead, 158 missing, 128 prisoners.

Earlier, battalion commander Semenchenko stated that these figures have nothing to do with reality, and the number of losses is at least three to four times more.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 29 August 2020 18: 06 New
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    Zelensky called for an investigation into the events of the "Ilovaisky boiler"
    "green", investigate Odessa casol ...
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 29 August 2020 18: 08 New
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      Quote: Dead Day
      "green", investigate Odessa Kazol ...

      Yes, and the Maidan would not be bad, finally, to investigate.
      1. viktor.
        viktor. 29 August 2020 18: 14 New
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        There is no one to investigate Odessa with the Maidan.
        1. KAV
          KAV 29 August 2020 18: 20 New
          39
          When we walked, I promised that I would return everyone. But no one then thought that there would be artillery, "Grads", "Hurricanes", mortars.
          Ie, were going for an easy walk, to shoot civilians? And it turned out how it happened! That's it! Serves the punishers right!
          I know that the Department of War was created in the Prosecutor General's Office precisely to investigate such high-profile cases.
          I don’t understand, what does the Prosecutor General have to do with it? This should be in the department of a military court, a tribunal. And what is there to investigate? Everyone except them has long been clear.
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 29 August 2020 18: 35 New
          11
          Quote: viktor.
          There is no one to investigate Odessa with the Maidan.

          And they need it ??? With an impartial investigation, half of the National Guard will have to be imprisoned, and the oligarchy will be lowered to poverty ...
          1. Just Alexander
            Just Alexander 29 August 2020 22: 03 New
            +1
            The oligarchs, as always, will escape punishment, and that half of the National Guard will simply get drunk.
            1. Just Alexander
              Just Alexander 29 August 2020 22: 58 New
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              The most important thing is that in the Ilovaisk cauldron the scum got what it deserved.
          2. viktor.
            viktor. 30 August 2020 01: 51 New
            +3
            hi I say, no one, all the scum participating in the destruction of the people of Ukraine at the helm in Ukraine.
          3. Pathos
            Pathos 31 August 2020 08: 29 New
            0
            Everyone will have to be imprisoned, starting with the organization of the Maidan, who poured money and weapons into the National Battalions, as well as those who gave criminal orders to the army and the National Battalions. There, everyone is smeared and tied tightly, jumping off this train will not work. So this piano won't have a nifigale.
            1. jncnfdybr
              jncnfdybr 31 August 2020 10: 49 New
              0
              And also those who carried cookies.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 29 August 2020 18: 22 New
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        Zelensky called for an investigation into the events of the "Ilovaisky boiler"

        Today is the anniversary of the liquidation of the boiler.

        The first monument to those killed in the Ilovaisk cauldron was unveiled in Ukraine.


        Open whatever you want in your Fatherland.

        In Donetsk, on the anniversary of the liquidation of the ukrogroup, we opened a bust to Hero of the DPR Mikhail Tolstykh, call sign "Givi", a native of Ilovaisk, on the Alley of Heroes next to the monument "Your liberators, Donbass" in the park of the Lenin Komsomol.

        "When necessary, I will die on my land and for my land."



        1. depressant
          depressant 29 August 2020 18: 53 New
          40
          I remember Givi. I can still see his face. He seemed very young to me. Everlasting memory!
          1. Just Alexander
            Just Alexander 29 August 2020 22: 04 New
            +9
            Eternal memory nationwide.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 30 August 2020 09: 50 New
            +4
            Quote: depressant
            Lyudmila Yakovlevna

            Lyudmila Yakovlevna, Givi seemed to me unkillable, like Motorola, Zakharchenko ... But somewhere it didn't grow together ...
        2. Machito
          Machito 29 August 2020 18: 53 New
          38
          Eternal memory of Givi and Motorola !!! And other heroes of Novorossiya !!!
      3. vVvAD
        vVvAD 30 August 2020 11: 49 New
        -1
        Quote: Dead Day
        "green", investigate Odessa casol ...

        Quote: Victor_B
        Yes, and the Maidan would not be bad, finally, to investigate.

        It's easier to do hara-kiri.
      4. orionvitt
        orionvitt 30 August 2020 12: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor_B
        Quote: Dead Day
        "green", investigate Odessa Kazol ...

        Yes, and the Maidan would not be bad, finally, to investigate.

        What is there to investigate, everything has long been investigated. Everyone, everything, they know very well about everyone, by name and by second. And about the Maidan, and about Odessa, and about the Donbass, about everything. By the way, the perpetrators of this do not hide it, they think that they have come to power forever. Naive. On the other hand, they cannot plant themselves.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 29 August 2020 19: 08 New
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      And about the "atomic explosions" at the Donetsk airport, according to the atomic-leteyskiy forgotten ??? fool It was easy to fight against the people in words, and when they snatched them, they showed the whole world how the invaders from the Armed Forces and the National Battalions know how to lie about their peremogs, which are not there! !!
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 30 August 2020 07: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: Thrifty
        And about the "atomic explosions" at the Donetsk airport, according to the atomic-leteyskiy forgotten ???

        You are wrong, Geletay announced the use of TNW at the Luhansk airport ...

        Russia has used tactical nuclear weapons at Luhansk airport, the Ukrainian defense minister suggested.

        20 September 2014
        During the return of the Ukrainian delegation from Poland, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Valeriy Geletey said that Russia had used tactical nuclear weapons against the Ukrainian military, the journalist of the Inter TV channel Roman Bochkala said on Saturday, September 20.

        Quote: Geletay
        In particular, the forces of the Russian Federation delivered two strikes from a self-propelled mortar 2S4 Tulip on the Luhansk airport. It is for this reason that our military left it. The blows were so powerful that they "completely destroyed buildings from the fifth floor to the basement.


        Used projectiles of the 3VB4 and 3VB11 type in TNT equivalent with a capacity of up to two kilotons - that is, two thousand kilograms of TNT.


        Quote: Geletay
        If it weren't for Tulips, we could have stayed at the airport for at least a few more months and no one would have knocked us out of there
    3. vVvAD
      vVvAD 30 August 2020 11: 57 New
      +1
      No, well, let them play like an adult - as usual, Russia will be blamed for everything without substantiation, and the whole world will giggle quietly. And we will not remain in debt - and will send the collected materials to international authorities. bully
    4. private person
      private person 30 August 2020 18: 40 New
      0
      Zelensky called for an investigation into the events of the "Ilovaisky boiler"
      "green", investigate Odessa casol ...

      What's there to investigate? Everything is clear there and it is clear who is to blame. And the "Ilovaisky Cauldron" is another reason to reproach Russia.
      "
  2. Andrea
    Andrea 29 August 2020 18: 15 New
    +6
    How can you investigate something if you do not investigate but still come out on yourself?
    Those who seized power in a criminal way, give criminal orders, brainless performers carry out them, becoming accomplices.
    1. Wwk7260
      Wwk7260 29 August 2020 18: 33 New
      -20
      Yeah, it will go straight to Kvartal95 and itself. probably K95 in 2014. replaced the functions of the General Staff and Zelensky Commander. think when you write.
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 30 August 2020 10: 40 New
      -1
      How can you investigate something if you do not investigate but still come out on yourself?

      This is if you really investigate, and if you imitate and falsify, then you can go to the reptilians, which will be officially announced.
  3. PSih2097
    PSih2097 29 August 2020 18: 22 New
    -25
    This is from the same opera as we had, they overtook the troops in Chechnya and the "mon-generals" from the General Staff thought that this was enough for the general surrender of everyone and everything, and the result was a disaster with a bunch of dead soldiers and officers in Grozny and two wars. As one figure from GB Palmerston (IMHO) said - "How bad it is to live in the world when Russia is not at war with anyone" or something a little different, but the meaning is the same ...
    Nobody wants to learn from their mistakes (Great Patriotic War, World War I and other conflicts of the Republic of Ingushetia / USSR), or from strangers (GB, USA, France), and is not going to do it along the way.
    1. tatarin1972
      tatarin1972 29 August 2020 20: 50 New
      +6
      Not respected, and you were there? Or were you planning to enter a grouping? Do you generally have any relation, as a direct participant, to those events? Or are you one of those who think of themselves as a strategist, seeing the battle from the outside?
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 29 August 2020 21: 04 New
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        Quote: tatarin1972
        Not respected, and you were there? Or were you planning to enter a grouping? Do you generally have any relation, as a direct participant, to those events? Or are you one of those who think of themselves as a strategist, seeing the battle from the outside?

        I knew those who died there, who did not take into account the experience of the Afghan and what the storming of the city is, but I am a jacket, but from a military dynasty. so your sarcasm is not defended.
        1. tatarin1972
          tatarin1972 29 August 2020 21: 51 New
          +2
          "Native", you judge by word of mouth, there is no need to evaluate those events in which you did not participate. Otherwise, we have a bunch of experts, especially in the latest Caucasian conflicts, the Great Patriotic War, who know everything. So in the Ukrainian events as well.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 30 August 2020 00: 48 New
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            Quote: tatarin1972
            "Native",

            dear - you will call your wife, I didn’t drink with you and didn’t share rations so that I could talk to you, you understand ... And where I was, it doesn’t concern you at all ...
            1. KAV
              KAV 30 August 2020 02: 14 New
              +4
              Quote: PSih2097
              dear - you will call your wife, I did not drink with you and did not share rations

              How can you divide the ration here if you are a "jacket"? Yes? Therefore, there is no need to accelerate. You just have to keep silent and not run into a reply.
              Quote: "PSih2097"
              I knew those who died there
              - this is roughly similar to the statement of the mayor of Kiev ... Not everyone can, only not everyone can ...
              In addition, if you are from the MILITARY DYNASTY, then you should be trained to read and write. And not to expel this from yourself:
              Quote: "PSih2097"
              so your sarcasm is not defended
              It is a shame to make so many gross mistakes in a simple text.
            2. tatarin1972
              tatarin1972 30 August 2020 06: 44 New
              +1
              "Dear", you are a "jacket", quotation marks are sarcasm. Yes, I didn’t sit in the trench with "you", I didn’t share rations, and thank God.
          2. nickname7
            nickname7 30 August 2020 10: 43 New
            +5
            you judge by word of mouth, do not evaluate those events in which you did not participate

            And what is wrong, the first campaign was a miserable failure, very stupid and rude, this is a well-known fact.
            1. tatarin1972
              tatarin1972 30 August 2020 11: 03 New
              -4
              Another "sofa theorist" ...
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  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 August 2020 18: 23 New
    +6
    When we walked, I promised that I would return everyone. But no one then thought that there would be artillery, "Grads", "Hurricanes", mortars.
    Well yes. The guys were promised a walk. And there they even shot, horror. When they design a war, they drill holes for future awards and titles, and then not even everyone has enough toilet paper. repeat
  5. viktor.
    viktor. 29 August 2020 18: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: PSih2097
    This is from the same opera as we had, they overtook the troops in Chechnya and the "mon-generals" from the General Staff thought that this was enough for the general surrender of everyone and everything, and the result was a disaster with a bunch of dead soldiers and officers in Grozny and two wars.
    Nobody wants to learn from their mistakes (Great Patriotic War, World War I and other conflicts of the Republic of Ingushetia / USSR), or from strangers (GB, USA, France), and is not going to do it.

    Far from Like Us!
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 29 August 2020 18: 36 New
      -10
      Quote: viktor.
      Far from Like Us!

      Where do you have it?
      1. viktor.
        viktor. 30 August 2020 01: 48 New
        +6
        We have It in Russia!
  6. withoutreverse
    withoutreverse 29 August 2020 18: 48 New
    +5
    maybe Zelensky wants to write a scene for Kvartal 95 based on the results of the investigation. otherwise they have a creative crisis with the genre.)
  7. Russ
    Russ 29 August 2020 18: 53 New
    +3
    Appoint the next switchman and business ...
    But then how much pathos ...
    1. Just Alexander
      Just Alexander 29 August 2020 22: 30 New
      0
      They won't even look for the switchman. Just a loud statement (by status, I must blurt out something).
  8. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 29 August 2020 19: 02 New
    +2
    And Petsya Valtsman in those days translated bablosiks to offshore :-)
    And everything was dyakuvav and said goodbye, dyakuvav and said goodbye ..
    Wow ... how gorgeous they had a president, fat and always under the boss. In vain then the militias were stopped. It was necessary to drive Bandera's scum to the Canadian border.
  9. Mouse
    Mouse 29 August 2020 19: 05 New
    +3
    And just target designation can not give?
    called for an investigation

    Ha ha ha ha three times ... laughing
    Prezik ...
    1. Russ
      Russ 29 August 2020 19: 58 New
      +3
      Prezik ...

      Well ... yes ... the number one rubber product ... yes
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 29 August 2020 21: 26 New
        +4
        Used and thrown away ... yes
      2. tatarin1972
        tatarin1972 30 August 2020 14: 57 New
        0
        Where does the gas mask come from ?! About what you wrote is called rubber product No. 2.
        1. Russ
          Russ 30 August 2020 16: 38 New
          +1
          About what you wrote is called rubber product No. 2.

          one fig is a paramount item ... wink
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 29 August 2020 23: 29 New
      +5
      Yes its these
      Ukrainian President Zelensky also called on to investigate what happened near Ilovaisk
      I don't even want to comment. It's like he will call on some Ukrainian airfield to urgently fly to the moon.
  10. fn34440
    fn34440 29 August 2020 19: 19 New
    +3
    There is such a garden-medicinal plant "burnet". These ukropresidents, in my opinion, oppose this tincture. Manage to ruin so many Ukrainians, drive the country into a deep default, debt hole and sit in this Kryvyi Rih, waiting for Avakov's command to put you in a trash can !?
    Nobody will allow an idiot to investigate the shoals of Turchinov and Poroshenko and their puppeteers.
    Cheap, so rotten rating will not rise.
    A new, modern slogan in Ukraine: "Zelensky's face".
    1. Nestor
      Nestor 29 August 2020 19: 39 New
      -6
      I read, I read how the ATO officers met Petrukha laughing
  11. Nestor
    Nestor 29 August 2020 19: 35 New
    -8
    "North wind, north wind"
  12. boss
    boss 29 August 2020 19: 38 New
    +7
    It is never too late to investigate, especially interesting is the moment that the commander with the closest escort (?) In several vehicles left unharmed along the provided corridor, and launched the main column "for a breakthrough."
    Since he was not ready to fulfill the condition of the militia - a free exit without captivity, but also without weapons.
    This is how the ukrovoyaks exchanged the boys' lives.
    Recently, by the way, a Ukrainian journalist now living in the states who participated in covering the Ilovaisk operation and who left with the commander (if I am not mistaken, muzhenko), published a video showing that the militias provided a corridor and the commander quietly dumped, and threw his subordinates into a meat grinder. ..
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 29 August 2020 19: 39 New
    +3
    Ha, ha, there seems to have already hung medals for all the generals! Shaw now, will they shoot?
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 29 August 2020 20: 18 New
      +3
      I don't think they want the truth. They investigate a little, find new "heroes" and declare the "cauldron" an event that will go down in the history of "independent" Ukraine as an example of "unparalleled courage" and "heroism". As for the guilty, "maybe somewhere high in the mountains, you know, this is ... but not in our area, you will find something ...". winked
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 August 2020 20: 23 New
        +1
        And so it will be ... the bitter truth is nowhere loved.
  14. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 29 August 2020 19: 51 New
    +3
    So there was no boiler, there were only troubles, Geleta Ilovaisky would not let him lie.
  15. Radius
    Radius 29 August 2020 19: 59 New
    +3
    Let them investigate. Maybe they will understand that it is impossible to attract people into their arms by force of arms. At the same time, let them take a close look at the role of the Natsik. Only it seems that it is unlikely that Kiev will become clear ... They have not grown up with their wits yet, even if you investigate, even if you don't investigate.
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 29 August 2020 20: 07 New
    +3
    "The Ukrainian battalion commander does not mention the fact that the Ukrainian security forces themselves were moving towards Ilovaisk on heavy equipment, but he says that the use of artillery against them was a" surprise "for him ..." (c) what The set sore "and we are for the SHO" and here is the place to be. They went to kill and, moreover, were absolutely not ready for the fact that they could break off. Classic Punishers, EPRST!
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 29 August 2020 20: 10 New
    +3
    ... The commander of the Ukrainian security forces unit "Kryvbas" Oleksandr Motriy, speaking at the opening of the monument, said that "he could not return all the guys to their wives, children and mothers."

    It was necessary to hang him there in front of the monument, but he still plucked up courage and speaks! Paradoxically, all the commanders of the subunits who got into the cauldrons managed to get out of the encirclement in an amazing way. They simply threw their fighters and scrambled, and now the shirt is being torn on the chest for Nenka Ukraine !!!
    1. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 29 August 2020 22: 49 New
      0
      He should be given a reward, like Poroshenko, well done.
  18. Coconut
    Coconut 29 August 2020 20: 43 New
    0
    Zelensky called for an investigation into the events of the "Ilovaisky boiler"

    What's there to investigate ...? slapped on cabbage soup, period .. am 15 thousand dead ... it hurts ... but unfortunately there are no victories without deaths ...
  19. Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 29 August 2020 20: 47 New
    +2
    When we walked, I promised that I would return everyone. But no one then thought that there would be artillery, "Grads", "Hurricanes", mortars.

    I was counting on "Blitzkrieg". The result was the same as that of Hitler.
  20. Egoza
    Egoza 29 August 2020 21: 14 New
    +2
    How can you not investigate, but this vile tribe will die out. So there will be no memory of them either. Together with the name, Ukraine will disappear
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 30 August 2020 05: 06 New
      +2

      Fidget (Elena)
      Yesterday, 21: 14
      NEW
      +1
      How can you not investigate, but this vile tribe will die out. So there will be no memory of them either. Together with the name, Ukraine will disappear
      Helen, hi ! But how long will it take before they "die out"? The Ukronazis will bring so much more trouble!
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 30 August 2020 08: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: aszzz888
        Just how long will it take before they "die out"

        see here https://znaj.ua/ru/society/229411-ostannye-peredbachennya-dlya-ukrajini-legendarnij-molfar-zalishiv-prorotstvo-yake-vzhe-pochalo-zbuvatisya
  21. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 29 August 2020 22: 48 New
    +3
    Why did you give birth only now? Oh yes, elections, and after them you can forget everything. Clown, why didn't Petya sit down? It is necessary to investigate the blown up "air conditioner", Odessa, what Kolomoisky's mercenaries were doing in the Donbass, the creation of terbats, etc. You need to plant in thousands and you need to start with your patron and sponsor.
  22. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 30 August 2020 01: 11 New
    +3
    When we walked, I promised that I would return everyone. But no one then thought that there would be artillery, "Grads", "Hurricanes", mortars.

    What about us?
  23. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 30 August 2020 02: 24 New
    0
    And what hinders, and there is strength and will, but there is no will power
  24. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 August 2020 05: 04 New
    0
    Motrius:

    When we walked, I promised that I would return everyone. But no one then thought that there would be artillery, "Grads", "Hurricanes", mortars
    He, this Motry, thought that the Ukronazis would fight with the same gates, like a nemchura with flowers in Europe in 41? angry But no, let him say thanks to the LDNR fighters for releasing their remnants and not killing every one of them.
  25. shinobi
    shinobi 30 August 2020 05: 28 New
    +2
    Amazing logic. This is the same we are correct! We came to kill you, you have no right to resist! In the same way, the German soldiers thought at 41. And full of idiocy bewilderment, Why?
  26. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 30 August 2020 07: 59 New
    +2
    What is the investigation for? Yes, not to punish their boobies. And in order to inflate another libel against Russia. Like the Poles with their drunken president who died near Smolensk. These and the use of nuclear weapons will find other confusion.
  27. German Titov
    German Titov 30 August 2020 11: 56 New
    0
    Why look there for a long time. Serega, Taras, Misha, Sanya, Akhmet, Armen ... are guilty, those who defended Ilovaisk and poured luli. Misha then defended the station area. It was impossible to look at Ilovaisk in 2014-2015 without tears. They beat me with tanks. Well, then, the prisoners told, - "I was very lucky to be taken prisoner. Arms, legs, heads were flying" ...
  28. iouris
    iouris 30 August 2020 12: 21 New
    0
    Comedian: "Investigation in Ukraine" is very funny.
  29. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 30 August 2020 12: 33 New
    0
    Zelensky called for an investigation into the events of the "Ilovaisky boiler"

    Well yes. Something, no, but the president called, and he was sent ...
    Motrius:
    When we walked, I promised that I would return everyone. But no one then thought that there would be artillery, "Grads", "Hurricanes", mortars

    Well yes. It didn't work out for an easy, fun looter ... request
  30. NF68
    NF68 30 August 2020 15: 48 New
    0
    It is possible to erect a monument to those who drove units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into this boiler by their orders. Whatever one may say, but these miracle generals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine also noted in those events.
  31. Old Man
    Old Man 30 August 2020 20: 41 New
    0
    a good battalion commander, otherwise he went out for a walk, out of the tanks, and to shoot at civilians.
  32. uav80
    uav80 31 August 2020 09: 27 New
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    The first monument to those killed in the Ilovaisk cauldron was unveiled in Ukraine.