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Top 3 submarines in terms of diving depth

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Diving depth is one of the defining characteristics of submarines. Those submarines that are capable of diving to maximum depth have obvious advantages in performing many combat missions.


As you know, the world record for the depth of diving among submarines in 1985 was set by the Soviet nuclear submarine K-278 "Komsomolets" - on August 4, 1985 the nuclear submarine sank to a depth of 1027 meters. Unfortunately, in 1989 the nuclear submarine "Komsomolets" sank in the Norwegian Sea, 42 crew members were killed, and 27 people were rescued.

3. Northwind


Submarines of project 955 "Borey" are strategic nuclear submarines of the fourth generation. For service with the Naval fleet Russian Federation "Borei" began to arrive in 2013. It was this year that the K-535 Yuri Dolgoruky, launched back in 2008, was put into operation. At present, the Russian Navy includes 4 Borey-class submarines - K-535 Yuri Dolgoruky, K-550 Alexander Nevsky,

K-551 "Vladimir Monomakh", K-549 "Prince Vladimir". Six more boats are under construction. They are expected to become operational during the 2020s, strengthening the combat power of the Russian nuclear submarine fleet.


The submersion depth of the Borey nuclear submarine is on average about 480 meters. Of course, this is far from Komsomolets' record, but the new submarines are leaving behind many British, French, Japanese and Chinese submarines.

2. Virginia


The Virginia-class submarines are fourth-generation, multipurpose nuclear submarines in service with the US Navy. Their design began in the late 1980s, and in 2004 the first submarine of this class SSN-774 Virginia was put into operation. It is expected that in the foreseeable future the US Navy will have at least 30 Virginia-class submarines. The naval department expects that the submarines will replace the Los Angeles-class nuclear submarines, which were produced for twenty years, from 1976 to 1996.


The maximum immersion depth of Virginia class submarines is 488 meters, although some experts call other figures - 500 and even 600 meters. In any case, submarines of this class have the ability to dive to great depths, which makes them a dangerous and insidious enemy.

1. Ash


Russian submarines of project 885 "Yasen" (885M "Yasen-M") are deservedly in the first place. The first submarine of this class, the K-560 Severodvinsk, entered the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy in 2014, and was launched four years earlier.

The submarines K-561 "Kazan" and K-573 "Novosibirsk" have already been launched, but have not yet been enlisted in the fleets. It is expected that Kazan will be commissioned at the end of this year, and Novosibirsk in the next 2021.

Currently, 6 Yasen-class submarines are under construction - K-571 Krasnoyarsk, K-564 Arkhangelsk, Perm, Ulyanovsk, Voronezh, Vladivostok. They should go into service with the Russian Navy during 2022-2028.

The maximum immersion depth of Yasen-class submarines is 600 meters: the new nuclear power plant used on the submarine makes it possible to leave far behind, according to these indicators, all the Yasen's rivals from among the submarines of the countries - potential enemies.
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  1. Cossack 471
    Cossack 471 29 August 2020 17: 32 New
    -38
    very unfortunate
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 29 August 2020 18: 58 New
      18
      You leave the site ...... or ....
    2. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 29 August 2020 20: 17 New
      +5
      Sorry...
      And we are more or less fine))
    3. Subtext
      Subtext 30 August 2020 13: 34 New
      -5
      It seems that according to the aftor, loaves only in the surface position go around the coast of Alaska, - a deep faint: oh (
    4. Grits
      Grits 31 August 2020 06: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Cossack 471
      very unfortunate

      Don't forget to pray. Your grief will not be so depressing
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 31 August 2020 14: 31 New
        +1
        Better roll! wassat
  2. Charik
    Charik 29 August 2020 17: 37 New
    -4
    and in the photo Ash and two American women
    1. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 30 August 2020 10: 53 New
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      Quote: Charik
      and in the photo Ash and two American women

      in photo 1 - "Ash", in photo 2 - "Northwind", in photo 3 - American ...
      "Learn military affairs in a real way" V. I. Lenin ...
      1. Charik
        Charik 30 August 2020 20: 54 New
        +1
        now in photo 2 - Borey, and there was an American in my opinion Elk
      2. Charik
        Charik 31 August 2020 12: 34 New
        0
        initially in the photo there were-Ash, in my opinion Elk and the third one remained, so no need to la-la
  3. Nestor
    Nestor 29 August 2020 17: 51 New
    -2
    I understand that this is from the serial?
    Question: - and the AGS series? Do they write in the tyrnet that 7 pieces were produced?
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 31 August 2020 13: 52 New
      0
      AGS is not a submarine as the name implies. The difference, I think, you yourself will understand by googling a little.
      1. Nestor
        Nestor 31 August 2020 19: 05 New
        0
        What looks like a duck swims like a duck and quacks like a duck ... How not to "call it" will still remain a duck!
        There is a propeller, there are ballast tanks, there is a strong and light body, there are vertical and horizontal rudders? !!
  4. Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 29 August 2020 17: 51 New
    31
    The maximum immersion depth of Yasen-class boats is 600 meters: the new nuclear power plant used on the boat makes it possible to leave far behind, according to these indicators, all the Yasen's rivals

    Zen article again.
    The author, how the power plant is related to the maximum immersion depth7
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 29 August 2020 21: 17 New
      20
      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      how the power plant is related to the maximum immersion depth7

      Bottom intake fittings and mains of the 3rd circuit must be of equal strength PC. But that's not all. Komsomolets climbed up to 800m and fired torpedoes. That's where the trick is ...
      1. Fizik M
        Fizik M 30 August 2020 11: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Komsomolets climbed up to 800m and fired torpedoes. That's where the trick is ...

        Well, what is the "trick"?
        amers have a hydraulic firing system at all from the Thresher,
        moreover, they have at least 1 torpedo shot (remotely controlled product based on MK45) from 1,5 km (from Dolphin)
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 30 August 2020 12: 26 New
          +7
          Quote: Fizik M
          Well, what is the "trick"?

          The trick is that not a single Yankee combat submarine has fired from such a depth.
          Or has something changed since 2010 and I missed it? belay
          1. Fizik M
            Fizik M 30 August 2020 21: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: BoA KAA
            The trick is that not a single Yankee combat submarine has fired from such a depth.

            extremely simple question - WHY?!?!
            they drive the torpedo to this depth
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 31 August 2020 19: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: Fizik M
              Quote: BoA KAA
              The trick is that not a single Yankee combat submarine has fired from such a depth.

              extremely simple question - WHY?!?!
              they drive the torpedo to this depth

              Maxim, this is now, and in 1985, when there was no 48-ADCAP yet (in service since 98), the 685 project from such a depth could only be picked out by the SBP.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 31 August 2020 20: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Fizik M
          they have at least 1 torpedo shot (remotely controlled product based on MK45) from 1,5 km (from Dolphin)

          Maxim, dive record "555" Dolphin - 915 m. How could he shoot from 1,5 km !?
          It has a HY-80 body with a yield point of 56,08 kgf / mm100. A wolf made of HY-70,5 with a yield strength of 487 kgf / mm1,5. , has a swing H of a dive of 1985m. So, Dolphin with his one experimental TA did not shoot from XNUMX km and did not do the weather in XNUMX ...
      2. Grits
        Grits 31 August 2020 06: 22 New
        0
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        how the power plant is related to the maximum immersion depth7

        Bottom intake fittings and mains of the 3rd circuit must be of equal strength PC. But that's not all. Komsomolets climbed up to 800m and fired torpedoes. That's where the trick is ...

        The great depth of immersion may have ruined the ship. To ascend from such a depth, the high-pressure air should not be VVD-400, as on all ships, but VVD-1500. And when there was a fire, coupled with the depressurization of the VVD, all this turned into a hellish burner, which began to melt everything that connected the adjacent compartments and a durable hull with the interbody space
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 31 August 2020 19: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Gritsa
          The great depth of immersion may have ruined the ship.

          Komsomolets destroyed a fire in the 7th compartment at 380m. AZ fell 150 m, thereby depriving the ship of energy and progress. And then the tragedy developed outside the box, with "autogenous" ... and a violation of the tightness of the PC.
  5. Constanty
    Constanty 29 August 2020 18: 00 New
    30
    K-278 "Komsomolets" - Project 685 "Fin". The model is a modern, technically perfect ship - 30 years ago!

    Eternal memory of the fallen!
    1. Train
      Train 29 August 2020 18: 03 New
      12
      Everlasting memory!
    2. Fizik M
      Fizik M 30 August 2020 11: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Constanty
      hit them over the head

      until the early 70s (until the funding was closed in favor of the Vietnam War), the Americans were far ahead of us in deep-sea topics
      it is recommended to remember when they visited the Mariana Trench, and when (in the late 60s) they fired torpedoes for more than 1,5 km
      1. Constanty
        Constanty 30 August 2020 11: 11 New
        +8
        In the Mariana Trench, these were, as far as I understand, bathyscaphes, not warships. K-278 "Komsomolets" in any case, this is the end of the 80s and it holds the absolute record for the depth of diving among submarines - 1027 meters.
        1. Fizik M
          Fizik M 30 August 2020 21: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Constanty
          it owns the absolute record for the depth of diving among submarines - 1027


          You forgot about the American "Dolphin" (which was not just "was" at one and a half times greater depth, but fired torpedoes) and our AGS
          1. Constanty
            Constanty 30 August 2020 21: 09 New
            +3
            The USS Dolphin (AGSS-555) was not strictly a combat unit, but was built and used for scientific and experimental purposes. This submarine set the world record for submarine draft set in November 1968 (not yet beaten by a submarine with traditional engine) equal to 914,4 m, and a year later set a record for the depth of a torpedo launch - the unaccounted value is not given. Komsomolets broke this dive record! AGS are also not combat units. ergo top 1, in my opinion, remains with K-278.
            1. Fizik M
              Fizik M 31 August 2020 00: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Constanty
              set a record for torpedo launch depth - unaccounted for value is not given

              Polmar had EMNIP in the area of ​​1400m (writing from memory)
              AGS are also not combat units

              as you please
              bully
          2. Grits
            Grits 31 August 2020 06: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Fizik M
            You forgot about the American "Dolphin" (which was not just "was" at one and a half times greater depth, but fired torpedoes) and our AGS

            Imagine talking about trucks. And the question is, which of them has the highest speed. And you insist that the Ferrari is faster anyway.
            1. Tektor
              Tektor 31 August 2020 12: 22 New
              0
              AGS AS31 is still a real combat unit, tk. can at any time cut the enemy's submarine cables and deprive him of situational awareness.
              AS-31 "Losharik" is designed for operations on sea soil at a depth of six kilometers, including, in particular, lighting of the surrounding landscapes, manipulation of various external products, such as installing various sensors and cutting underwater cables, and finally, general reconnaissance. To perform such tasks, the deep-sea vehicle is presumably equipped with a manipulator complex, a lifting system, a hydroacoustic station, an optical system and small (uninhabited) drones.

              Losharik
            2. Fizik M
              Fizik M 31 August 2020 13: 12 New
              +2
              Quote: Gritsa
              Imagine that the conversation

              the conversation is not about trucks, but about a spheroconin in a vacuum
  6. Undecim
    Undecim 29 August 2020 18: 36 New
    21
    Top 3 submarines in terms of diving depth
    It is difficult to think of something more stupid than such a rating, since the real maximum submersion depth of submarines is classified. The only thing that can be roughly calculated is the depth of destruction based on the steel grade of the case.
    But this is beyond comprehension for the technically ignorant site authors.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 29 August 2020 19: 01 New
      +7
      It's probably like in yard football:
      - The one who hits higher, he plays better!
      laughing
      1. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 29 August 2020 20: 19 New
        +1
        Whoever hits the ball on his foot more times is cooler))
  7. mark1
    mark1 29 August 2020 18: 40 New
    14
    And 705 pr.?, And 945 pr.? both have a diving depth of at least 700 m. Well, how is that? Oh no no no!
    1. Fizik M
      Fizik M 30 August 2020 10: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      And 705 Ave.?

      400
      this is accurate and official from the developer

      945 I will not comment bully
      1. mark1
        mark1 30 August 2020 12: 25 New
        +3
        And there is no need to comment, I am using the data "The Navy of the USSR 1945-1991" Kuzin V.P., Nikolsky V.I. In my opinion, a highly respected source and very competent.
        1. Fizik M
          Fizik M 30 August 2020 21: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: mark1
          I am using the data "The Navy of the USSR 1945-1991" Kuzin V.P., Nikolsky V.I. In my opinion, a highly respected source and very competent.

          laughing
          it is absolutely not so
          see my article in NVO where I just whipped this couple + Nikolsky's son and drove it with a pug
          True, later knowledgeable people noticed to me that all my correct claims to KiN, as if it would be addressed to Nikolsky, and not Kuzin
  8. Alien From
    Alien From 29 August 2020 19: 25 New
    +2
    On weekends, many authors have shish kebabs ....., so the articles are not very good. Although I respect the author, we will be condescending)))
    1. bar
      bar 29 August 2020 20: 04 New
      +4
      This author does this not only on weekends. Stability is a sign of mastery laughing
    2. bayard
      bayard 30 August 2020 01: 52 New
      14
      This author somehow squeezed the stupidest article about the MiG-31 and put the American ... F-16 on the splash screen !!!
      The bottom view!
      Expert ... lol bully
      But prolific ... yes lol
      Site administration, is it really SO hard with the authors?
      Well, you can't do that ...
      The reader must be treated with respect. love
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 30 August 2020 12: 18 New
        +6
        Site administration, is it really SO hard with the authors?
        don't you understand it yet? they have had a problem with the material for a long time, the site has long since slipped into something dull patriotic
        1. bayard
          bayard 30 August 2020 14: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: _Ugene_
          don't you understand it yet? they have had a problem with the material for a long time, the site has long since slipped into something dull patriotic

          I understood for a long time, but I'm trying to stimulate for the better.
          After all, once it was better ...
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 30 August 2020 14: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: _Ugene_
          Site administration, is it really SO hard with the authors?
          don't you understand it yet? they have had a problem with the material for a long time, the site has long since slipped into something dull patriotic

          Especially lately. By the way, where is the article about demonstration firing of guided missiles (tanks) in Patriot Park? We definitely distinguished ourselves there.
          1. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 30 August 2020 15: 42 New
            +3
            yeah, especially the commentator is great, there is a mistake in the video, but he says hit and that's it, don't believe your eyes
            https://vk.com/video-123538639_456262385
            1. Fizik M
              Fizik M 30 August 2020 20: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: _Ugene_
              yeah, especially the commentator is great, there is a mistake in the video, but he says hit and that's it, don't believe your eyes
              https://vk.com/video-123538639_456262385

              so it is in our smiles (those with "reduced social responsibility") SYSTEM, the ships "fired successfully" (it turns out that the exit was planned but did not take place, that is, they were all the time in the base), show "successful firing" (rEch announcer), and in the "background" the battle broadcast and the data on the indicators
              etc.
          2. Charik
            Charik 31 August 2020 16: 23 New
            +1
            why are there tanks, here about submarines
        3. Fizik M
          Fizik M 30 August 2020 20: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: _Ugene_
          don't you get it yet? they have had a problem with the material for a long time, the site has long since slipped into something dull patriotic

          THIS IS NOT TRUE
          at one time there was a conversation with Glavred on some, let's say "controversial publications", the answer was:
          - We give different points of view
          And it actually makes a lot of sense. In the end, readers should have a head on their shoulders - to think (and not "is in it")
          1. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 30 August 2020 21: 37 New
            +4
            we are not talking about different points of view, this is really welcome if different points are presented in approximately equal proportions, we are talking about the fact that there are very few articles written by professionals, the quality of the material has become at the level of Yandex Zen, and the lack is replaced by pseudo-patriotic nonsense
            1. Fizik M
              Fizik M 31 August 2020 00: 08 New
              +2
              Quote: _Ugene_
              speech about the fact that there are very few articles written by professionals

              this is a common problem for our media
              and here VO stands out noticeably for the better - publishing what other well-known media outlets are openly afraid to publish, for example, about an article about "Status-6", literally, in one TOP media:
              - We will ruin our relations not only with the Ministry of Defense, but also with the Administration of the President

              as a result, the article was published on VO
              and this is far from an isolated example
              for example, 20386, was at the last moment "pulled" (practically out of print) in one respected media outlet, came out here, and had a great response (including in professional circles)
              1. bayard
                bayard 31 August 2020 17: 29 New
                0
                Yes, Maxim, your materials have made a splash. good And now something really seems to have begun to change ... at least the "promising" project 20386 is not shaking the air like that and the contract for a series of 6 and 20380 for the Pacific Fleet is already being prepared ...
                And what is there to hear about "Husky \ Like"?
                Is it really planned in such a monstrous displacement? After all, before it was about a new iteration of the Lyra concept - a light multipurpose submarine with a liquid metal reactor? It seems to me that this topic needs to be stirred up so that it is not too late, as with the carriers of the "Poseidons", which is generally incomprehensible why ...
                And yet, once I heard a stream with your participation, and there they talked about the future of the MPA and the possible role of the Su-34 in it. I think this is a very interesting topic for VO. You can consider the modification of the Su-34 with new - more powerful engines (the same "Product-30" from the future Su-57), an enlarged airframe (wingspan and area of ​​the wing, lengthening of the fuselage) to increase the payload and the volume of carried fuel in the internal tanks ), which will lead to an increase in the combat radius and make possible the suspension of heavy anti-ship missiles (for example, "Zircon"), with which he could not only take off and reach the line of attack, but also land, if the combat mission was canceled, already in the air ...
                I mean that we need publications not only criticizing the decisions already made, but goal-setting in the development of the armed forces.
                ... If your boss is not far off, you shouldn't prove THIS to him, you need to try to make sure that your sensible thought, he perceived as his (exactly - as his) and after that, with all his stubbornness, put this "his" thought into practice , metal, result.
                And for this we need such publications with PURPOSE and a proposal of ready-made solutions ... as if a hint by chance.
                It really works.
                Much better than criticizing the "fine nature of the bosses". yes bully
                Therefore, I suggest that you and your co-author deal with the topic of MAPL (repetition is the mother of learning) and MRA. In the entirety of these problems. yes With the problem of the absence of AWACS aircraft, the lack (almost absence) of reconnaissance, patrol and anti-submarine aircraft. But precisely in the context of goal-setting and options for solving these problems.
                I will gladly take part in the discussion of these topics.
                hi bully drinks
                1. Fizik M
                  Fizik M 31 August 2020 17: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: bayard
                  And what is there to hear about "Husky \ Like"?
                  Is it really planned in such a monstrous displacement?

                  I am thinking how to write
                  because it is necessary to "open" this next scam, but so that "not substitute and substitute"
                  Quote: bayard
                  the possible role of the Su-34 in it. I think this is a very interesting topic for VO

                  everything that could be said is already in the article in "MIC" and its full version in my LJ
                  Quote: bayard
                  will make possible the suspension of heavy anti-ship missiles (for example "Zircon")

                  on Su-34 + suspension of 3 "Zircons" is possible
                  that was my guess and Martirosov confirmed
                  Quote: bayard
                  And for this we need such publications with PURPOSE and a proposal of ready-made solutions ... as if a hint by chance.
                  It really works.
                  Much better than defilement

                  I am aware, but our main problem is ORGANIZATIONAL, more precisely personnel
                  without a kick in the ass to a number of faces, they will put all the honey into the manure
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 1 September 2020 01: 50 New
                    0
                    Quote: Fizik M
                    Quote: bayard
                    And what is there to hear about "Husky \ Like"?
                    Is it really planned in such a monstrous displacement?

                    I am thinking how to write
                    because it is necessary to "open" this next scam, but so that "not substitute and substitute"

                    Yes, you must be able to ...
                    But I think it is necessary not only to "open up" the scam, but to reveal and justify WHAT MAIL the fleet should have. The previous material was very interesting, but the publication should not be single. We need a cycle to properly cover the topic.
                    Quote: Fizik M
                    everything that could be said is already in the article in "MIC" and its full version in my LJ

                    Why not bring this topic up for discussion at VO?
                    The MRA topic is very relevant and building it on the new modification of the Su-34 is not just a sensible thing, but the only one possible ... Moreover, the most easily executable.
                    And this topic requires DISCLOSURE. And preferably too - in a series of articles. With extensive discussion on the forum.
                    Quote: Fizik M
                    on Su-34 + suspension of 3 "Zircons" is possible
                    it was my guess, and Martirosov confirmed

                    The starting weight of the aircraft "Zircon" is about 4500 kg. , together with a reinforced pylon ... yes, three ... even for the Su-34 + with an enlarged airframe and more powerful engines ... it will be about three X-22s for the Tu-22M3 - you can hang it up, and even take off with half-empty tanks ... but if you fly far away with such a load. But the most dreadful thing will be if, due to a technical malfunction or due to the cancellation of an order for use already in the air ... you have to sit down with such good ... by landing weight. Of course, you can take the risk - on the "last bucket of kerosene", and after landing on, leveling and admission to flights only through the KB commission. Therefore, in combat they took off from one. Or in the case of landing with suspensions, one would definitely have to be dropped ... And where - the fuel is poisonous ... And such a toy is worth a lot ... And who will be responsible for it later. Therefore, as a rule, they took off with one, and two or three could be hung up empty - to show off at parades.
                    I'm afraid the same story will happen with the Su-34.
                    One "Zircon" can, perhaps, pull the current Su-34 glider, even with V-V missiles.
                    An enlarged airframe with new engines ("Product-30") will be able to do TWO.
                    But for more - the risk is not justified.
                    Yes, it is unlikely that more will be needed - powerful missiles, at the moment irresistible (at least for now), more than one or two for a large ship will not be needed. On the Aircraft carrier - about four ... So for one AUG and one squadron is enough. And if not enough, then two will be enough.
                    But other suspension options are also possible.
                    Let's say: one "Zircon" and up to 4 X-31 or X-35. Or a combination of them, 1 + 2 + 2, for example, plus 4 - 6 explosive missiles for self-defense.
                    From the first firing line, the Zirkons are launched, and then - rapprochement, additional reconnaissance, finishing off.
                    And all in one flight.
                    Quote: Fizik M
                    but our main problem is ORGANIZATIONAL, more precisely personnel
                    without a kick in the ass to a number of faces, they will put all the honey into the manure

                    That's for sure, but let's along with kicks, we will also "image of the future" - desirable, rational and harmonious ... offer ... wink
                    This is also a very necessary thing. bully hi
                    drinks
                    1. Fizik M
                      Fizik M 1 September 2020 10: 36 New
                      0
                      Quote: bayard
                      I'm afraid the same story will happen with the Su-34.

                      will be gone
                      Martirosov died
                      and besides him, no one needs it
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 1 September 2020 18: 33 New
                        0
                        Now a modernized version of the Su-34 is being prepared for the series (the appearance has not yet been described to the general public), the procurement of a bomber for the Aerospace Forces continues. At the same time, (I hope) the end of the ordeal with the Su-57 is coming (hopefully), but there are still a couple of years left.
                        So why not take advantage of this time?
                        Not to declare the concept of an enlarged Su-34 with engines of the second stage from the Su-57 (engine builders will only say thanks, because they also need serial production) for MRA?
                        After all, such a plane is real - NEEDED.
                        And when it succeeds, it may turn out that this is needed not only for MPA, but also for videoconferencing.
                        And lobbyists for this project can be found.
                        But to make things easier, it is necessary to form public opinion that the revival of the MPA is the only way to establish control over the sea areas adjacent to our landless homeland. It is simply impossible to create either surface or submarine ships for reliable control of such spaces ... especially in modern Russia.
                        But aviation - naval missile-carrying, but on the basis of available samples ... IN THE SHORTEST TIME - POSSIBLE. And this will be much faster and more reliable than the reaction by the ships of the surface fleet ... which still need to be built.
                        If you launch an information wave about the need for such an aircraft (and it really is an edge as needed) and this idea will resonate ... it can turn out like with corvettes for the Pacific Fleet - common sense will triumph over inertia and stupidity.
                        And the interests (and therefore lobbyists) of this project can be like the Irkutsk plant named after Chkalov, as well as manufacturers and developers of Zircon and other anti-ship aircraft, commanders of fleets and manufacturers of the promising Izdeliye-30 engine.
                        Well, and the caring public on the forums of military-technical and military-patriotic sites ...
                        After all, there is a positive example of this.
      2. Charik
        Charik 31 August 2020 16: 26 New
        +1
        just about, I immediately wrote that in the pictures, one of our submarines and two amersky ones, in a day, when the photos have already changed, you write, there are 2 of ours and one amersky and they are molding a minus because they have already changed the picture
  9. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 29 August 2020 21: 15 New
    +1
    all these tops are for not very competent people
  10. Whisper
    Whisper 29 August 2020 23: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Undecim
    Top 3 submarines in terms of diving depth
    It is difficult to think of something more stupid than such a rating, since the real maximum submersion depth of submarines is classified. The only thing that can be roughly calculated is the depth of destruction based on the steel grade of the case.
    But this is beyond comprehension for the technically ignorant site authors.

    Well, if so, then the shape must be considered and the cross-section and 1.5 million other factors ... the steel grade will give nothing. And the brand is not the only one, 100%, and the thickness of the case is uneven, etc.
  11. K298rtm
    K298rtm 29 August 2020 23: 54 New
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    1. A very interesting and informative article.
    2. It is desirable to see a continuation, namely:
    - explain to the public how the working and maximum immersion depths are related to pl pl;
    - what are the advantages in the combat capabilities of the submarine provides a large depth of its immersion.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 30 August 2020 09: 37 New
      +2
      No one knows exactly to what depths modern submarines can dive, this is kept secret. You can only name the officially announced data and the estimated ones, based on structural materials and submarine design. An article of the level of "Popular Mechanics" (maybe from there and slamsen) ....
      "And our bathyscaphe sinks even deeper."
      Why?
      "On water! "...
      1. Fizik M
        Fizik M 30 August 2020 10: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Snail N9
        An article of the level of "Popular Mechanics" (maybe from there and slamsen) ....

        rather "Murzilki" ...
        Quote: Snail N9
        No one knows exactly to what depths modern submarines can dive, this is kept secret.

        yes (except for export projects)
        but "there are nuances", for example, there is good reason to believe a serious leak of information about our 3rd generation in the early 80s to the west (including on the maximum immersion depths)
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 30 August 2020 11: 50 New
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          Absolutely, in the 90s, US agents kicked open the doors in the Kremlin and in various defense enterprises and research institutes. Special flights took out secret documents. And even now, given the poverty of our people employed in the defense industry, they most likely have no shortage of people who want to earn extra money on the drain of information.
          1. Fizik M
            Fizik M 31 August 2020 00: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: Snail N9
            Absolutely true, in the 90s US agents

            I wrote about the early 80s
    2. Fizik M
      Fizik M 30 August 2020 10: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: K298rtm
      what are the advantages in the combat capabilities of the submarine provides a large depth of immersion.

      so the author has already blinked lol - they say whoever has more is thicker laughing
      however, I do not mind the continuation (although April 1, Ulya is long gone) laughing
      - let's laugh fellow
  12. Leha667
    Leha667 30 August 2020 00: 41 New
    +7
    The article is generally nothing.
    To publish this is not to respect yourself in the first place.
    The author, you are somewhere very far from the submarine fleet. Why such articles? For a tick?
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 30 August 2020 01: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Leha667
      The article is generally nothing.

      And the photos are thrown over it is not clear on what basis.
  13. Sailor
    Sailor 30 August 2020 06: 32 New
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    They forgot about the "Sea Wolf", it also dives about 600m.
  14. IC
    IC 30 August 2020 09: 35 New
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    The Komsomolets submarine had a diving depth of more than 1000 m
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 30 August 2020 09: 36 New
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    Why did you miss the AC-12, which is quite a working copy?
  16. Fizik M
    Fizik M 30 August 2020 10: 19 New
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    fool
    This is not an "article", but another nonsense of an absolutely incompetent author. not having even a minimal idea of ​​the issue.
    600 meters for our (STEEL) went from another 3 generations, and this is quite officially and openly wrote "Malachite".
    US PLA "slightly less"
    US Navy PLA "even smaller"
    because, in spite of the author's illiterate nonsense, a great depth of immersion gives not "secrecy", but its significant DECREASE (the means of acoustic protection are compressed by pressure). For example, for our submarines, already 350 meters (the figure was in Parkhomenko's open publications), most of the acoustic protection means simply lost their effectiveness
    1. Orkraider
      Orkraider 30 August 2020 11: 12 New
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      Greetings!
      hi
      And what is the maximum design depth of application for MK48 mod. 7? From torpedo 5 it is indicated as 1200, but this is probably the maximum estimated travel depth? Or is it really a working depth of application?
      1. Fizik M
        Fizik M 30 August 2020 20: 51 New
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        Quote: Orkraider
        From torpedo 5 it is indicated as 1200, but this is probably the maximum estimated travel depth? Or is it really a working depth of application?

        yes this is real depth
        even on mod4 it was 900m
        do not forget that during the MK48 program, the amers had a very serious deep-sea program, and the APD was chosen precisely on the basis of its good depth characteristics (as opposed to turbines)
  17. gorunov
    gorunov 30 August 2020 15: 32 New
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    But what about "Losharik"?)
  18. Fizik M
    Fizik M 31 August 2020 13: 17 New
    +2
    Absolutely sloppy in content opus wassat , but with a "hype" title has already received 80000 views. I strongly doubt that this lol know what shame is. Or knowingly - "a little bit" (because he is afraid to appear in the comments, realizing that he will be "slightly smeared" in the text of the opus.
    Hmm ... neither me, nor the same Timokhin had a single hack article. angry
    And then ... the impression is that the author simply "sent natural needs" wassat
    1. Charik
      Charik 31 August 2020 14: 57 New
      +1
      Fizik M-submarine in a submerged position can detect the launch of a CD or PLUR from an enemy NK or submarine?
      1. Fizik M
        Fizik M 31 August 2020 15: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: Charik
        can detect the launch of a CD or PLUR from an enemy NK or submarine?

        depends on conditions
        most often not, because the distances to the NK are usually large, and "ordinary" missiles do not fall into the water
        1. Charik
          Charik 31 August 2020 15: 51 New
          +1
          A submarine launch from a submarine of a rocket or a PLUR can be detected if both under water and sonar in passive? hi
          1. Fizik M
            Fizik M 31 August 2020 15: 53 New
            +1
            Quote: Charik
            A submarine launch from a submarine of a rocket or a PLUR can be detected if both under water and sonar in passive?

            Yes
            but if a SJC with a large signal accumulation, a special mode of "weapon launch detection" is needed (because on a conventional gun, the start noise is "smeared" for the duration of accumulation)
            1. Charik
              Charik 31 August 2020 15: 57 New
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              Well, the SAC with a large accumulation of signal, I do not understand this, but the special mode of "weapon launch detection" is what?, Can the SAC be switched to this mode? - Well, very interesting
              1. Fizik M
                Fizik M 31 August 2020 16: 01 New
                +1
                he is
                about accumulation - see textbooks on hydroacoustics
                in analog it is a stupid capacitor
                in numbers, of course, otherwise
                1. Charik
                  Charik 31 August 2020 16: 18 New
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                  but where can I get textbooks on hydroacoustic - libraries are not in vogue these days, and I’ve got out of the habit of a long reading, well, the special OPO mode, I’m interested in, but from what models of GAKs it is - 200-300-400 MGK, as far as I understand, the opening of TA does the acoustician even hear?, but the opening of the covers of the vertical launchers of the KR-ICBM-will be louder than the launch of a torpedo?
                  1. Fizik M
                    Fizik M 31 August 2020 17: 00 New
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                    Quote: Charik
                    but where can I get textbooks on hydroacoustic

                    in internet libraries

                    the opening of TA in the same Warsaw is well audible, and at good distances
                    1. Charik
                      Charik 31 August 2020 17: 34 New
                      +1
                      I will trust a person who knows more than books
                      1. Fizik M
                        Fizik M 31 August 2020 18: 02 New
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                        in analog GAK there was a scanning diagram (in MGK-400 there are 3 diagrams), rotating horizontally in an inductive compensator
                        at the output of the compensator, when accumulating, capacitors are connected (up to several tens of XN passes)
                        acc. if there is a pulse signal, then it is "smeared" with accumulation in the SHP and may not be detected
                        OGS is usually a SHOW scheme, and there it is very unimportant with sensitivity

                        therefore, already in the same "Skat-3" (digital) there was a "parallel" ShP mode of "launch detection"
  19. BASHAR ASAD
    BASHAR ASAD 31 August 2020 13: 30 New
    -1
    The first photo is like from the cartoon "Cars". Angry Russian submarine.
    1. Charik
      Charik 31 August 2020 16: 20 New
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      Do you like cartoons?
  20. Charik
    Charik 31 August 2020 14: 33 New
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    that's what kind of donkey IA puts a minus for the fact that initially Ash and 2e American women were in the photo, then they changed it, and some sheep minus sculpts, well, okay, they won’t be kicked out of work, you just tell the fuck that so, and a day later changed the pictures and they mold
  21. Charik
    Charik 31 August 2020 17: 36 New
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    again, some kind of a dibil minus put-I had a photo of Ash and 2 amersky submarines, now changed to Ash Borey and Virginia, and some dibil still minus sculpts
  22. Polar Bear
    Polar Bear 1 September 2020 10: 43 New
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    Gubina diving is good, of course, but sometimes the boat is not heard at 40 meters and perfectly audible at 200 meters. Hydrology-s. And then the most important thing for the boat is low noise and good acoustics. And if American boats have better acoustics than ash trees, then no depth of immersion will help them.
  23. tivivlat
    tivivlat 5 September 2020 18: 34 New
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    it is not difficult to make a submarine, with a diving depth of 10-11 kilometers, and the money is 5 times less than the existing ones, but YOU, with D., will devour such a designer