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"Turkey does not behave like a NATO ally": Macron announced "red lines" for Ankara

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The French president has responded to Turkish claims over exercises that the French have undertaken jointly with Greeks and Cypriots in the eastern Mediterranean. Recall that Ankara accused Paris of violating the agreements on the military presence in Cyprus. Namely, several planes of the French Air Force arrived at the airbase in Cyprus earlier from France to participate in maneuvers. In response, Turkey has intensified its maneuvers in the eastern Mediterranean region.


Earlier, Turkey and France had mutual claims over the relationship to the conflict in Libya. It got to the aggressive actions taken by the crews of the warships of the Turkish and French navies.

Emmanuel Macron, commenting on the situation, said that Turkey's actions "are not like the actions of a NATO ally." Macron added that Turkey has been doing this for several years, ignoring allied relations within the North Atlantic Alliance.

From a statement by the French president:

I understand that Ankara only respects concrete actions. In this regard, we are ready to present to them (to the Turks) the "red lines" in the region. It comes to respecting sovereignty in the eastern Mediterranean, and my words must match the actions.

According to Emmanuel Macron, Turkey interferes in the affairs of Syria and Libya, and also comes into conflict with Greece. The French president added that this is "a reason to consider the issue of possible sanctions." What specific sanctions can be discussed, Macron did not say. But this statement has already caused outrage in Ankara.
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    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 29 August 2020 07: 42 New
      +3
      I agree. They will exchange loud phrases, shake their fingers at each other from the stands and be quiet ...
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 29 August 2020 07: 44 New
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      Quote: Black
      Even tells me that Pirdogan will send a macron ... he spit on his opinion.

      And what else remains for him. Micron drew a line with chalk, Erdogan will rub it and spit it.
      What Micron will do, swallow, rub, turn on his head, and not for the first time.
      Hot southern blood collided with hotter blood. fool
      Of course both are good. Erdogan is stronger in every way. France acts as an ally, only ooh and ooh.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 29 August 2020 11: 04 New
        +2
        I would not be so sure of that. Macron is extremely proud. He and Trump then fell out because Trump treated him disrespectfully. PM may well go to aggravation. Especially if the Greeks, Emirates and Egyptians support him.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 29 August 2020 11: 39 New
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          Quote: g1v2
          PM may well go to aggravation. Especially if the Greeks, Emirates and Egyptians support him.

          And? .... Forgot to mention Israel. request Everyone has interests, but allies are a gang. In chorus yell -fie! And when Erdogan starts asking them one by one, they will scatter. How was it in Syria, and did you deal with Yemen? Exactly. Reminds the beginning of the film "The Taming of the Shrew", the first 15 minutes.
          Quote: g1v2
          Macron is extremely proud.
          Seriously? He is a capricious child against the Sultan, nothing more. crying
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 29 August 2020 13: 20 New
            +7
            Well, what about Libya? When do emiratis constantly bomb the Turks? By the way, there is a lot of information that the Franks are also involved in this. He couldn’t take the Sirte, but the Franks have a lot of experience in slaughtering all kinds of natives. And the Turks took their last wars robustly. Where is the Ottoman Empire then? At one time, the Turks were saved from the Greeks only by the help of the Bolsheviks, who made peace with the Turks and helped them with the supply of weapons. In my opinion, in the case of a mass batch, the Turks will not be in the majority.
            Well, the most important thing is that the Sultan now does not care about the economy and a serious number of internal problems. The same army defeated after the putsch is not a fact that it does not want to get rid of him. Kurds again. Gulenists from FETA. And at night there were also attacks on Turks and pro-Turkish militants in Idlib. There are many pro-Saudi militants there, and the Saudis have a fucking boner on him after the Khashogi affair and the alliance with Qatar. The Sultan has too many fronts. It may overstrain.
            Child or not, the French army and navy are still a formidable force. And most importantly, they rely on the economy and the European military-industrial complex. The sultan will have to take them into account.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 29 August 2020 19: 41 New
          0
          there is no pride, there are contradictions in the wine-IT business-taxes-quotas-arms trade. any will bend for 10-20-50 billion dollars-Euro. partners do not accept deflection and are ready to show themselves because of money. but not to anyone.
        3. Never mind
          Never mind 29 August 2020 20: 14 New
          +1
          There and Israel in action.
    4. Husit
      Husit 29 August 2020 08: 14 New
      -1
      Quote: Black
      Even tells me that Pirdogan will send a macron ... he spit on his opinion.

      Disrupt NATO, this is what Russia needs! And it all started with an attempted military coup in Turkey .. If not for Putin, then Erdogan would have been overwhelmed. And the "allies" are primarily to blame for this, first of all, the United States .. So Macron is crying in vain, he is still a whip
    5. halpat
      halpat 29 August 2020 08: 47 New
      +8
      It amazes me how accurate the French symbol is in relation to Macron.

      flaps its wings, crows, there is no sense, but there is a lot of fuss and noise.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 29 August 2020 08: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Halpat
        It amazes me how accurate the French symbol is in relation to Macron.

        flaps its wings, crows, there is no sense, but there is a lot of fuss and noise.

      2. Clear
        Clear 29 August 2020 09: 14 New
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        Quote: Halpat
        It amazes me how accurate the French symbol is in relation to Macron.

        flaps its wings, crows, there is no sense, but there is a lot of fuss and noise.

        This Macron grinds his tongue worse than a "thin woman".
        I remember he "authoritatively" stated "The Russians exaggerate their role in the victory over Germany, the key blow was delivered by Europe and the USA ..."

        Did the boy forget the story? Recall.

      3. antivirus
        antivirus 29 August 2020 19: 48 New
        0
        little use? there is no one to eat it, cock soup has not been cooked yet and the cook has not been born
    6. Finches
      Finches 29 August 2020 09: 32 New
      +4
      I do not care about Erdogan and Macron, but I get great pleasure from squabbling "allies" ... Macron needs to crush less loaf for the Janissary - he can take offense and open one small tap, then millions of refugees from the Middle East will again pour into Europe and, quite perhaps, except for German women, but Macron himself will be fucked right in the Eliseevsky Palace ... - that will be a laugh! And you can't refuse - European values ​​and tolerance! Don't go anywhere! laughing
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 29 August 2020 07: 41 New
    +6
    The young gerontophile is trying to oppose something to the hardened sultan.
    It will be interesting to watch the next grumpy commotion.
    The sanctions are already taking on an all-versus-all planetary scale.
    In this century, humanity will finally forget how to negotiate a campaign.
    The era of the Babylonian pandemonium of the third millennium.
    People finally stopped understanding each other.
    1. Sniper
      Sniper 29 August 2020 07: 49 New
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      this gerontophile does not see the shores ..

      - "French President Emmanuel Macron said that he expects Russia to conduct an open investigation into the incident with Alexei Navalny," Interfax reports.
      Macron also said he was "very concerned and demanding about Russia" with regard to such an investigation.
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 29 August 2020 08: 18 New
        -1
        Quote: Sniper
        Emmanuel Macron stated

        Emmy, why hurry? Let's wait for the autopsy results and the pathologist will tell us everything.
    2. The black
      The black 29 August 2020 08: 00 New
      +2
      In this century, humanity will finally forget how to negotiate a campaign.
      The era of the Babylonian pandemonium of the third millennium.
      People finally stopped understanding each other.
      I agree with a small amendment .... not "People have finally ceased to understand each other." ... but the so-called elites have become more greedy. Ordinary people have nothing to share.
  3. viktor.
    viktor. 29 August 2020 07: 42 New
    0
    Macron Is right, Turks are MEMBERS of NATO! laughing
  4. VIP
    VIP 29 August 2020 07: 46 New
    +1
    NATO cordial "friendship". Like a dog with a stick.
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 29 August 2020 07: 47 New
    +7
    Macron is a very weak politician and unlike Erdogan. It will be very difficult to intimidate Turkey
  6. Alexy
    Alexy 29 August 2020 07: 49 New
    +7
    What did they want? We divided the resources of the eastern Mediterranean without the Turks. Although Turkey has the longest coastline there. Turkey cannot resolve the issue with Greece on the islands - they are inhabited by Greeks, while they are 3-4 km from Turkey and a few hundred km from Greece. It seems like the Turkish shelf, but it seems not. So Turkey was simply driven into a corner and how it will end is unknown.
    1. halpat
      halpat 29 August 2020 09: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexy
      What did they want? We divided the resources of the eastern Mediterranean without the Turks. Although Turkey has the longest coastline there. Turkey cannot resolve the issue with Greece on the islands - they are inhabited by Greeks, while they are 3-4 km from Turkey and a few hundred km from Greece. It seems like the Turkish shelf, but it seems not. So Turkey was simply driven into a corner and how it will end is unknown.

      Turks (Ottomans) for centuries have not been able to resolve this "issue" with the islands. Because they themselves are newcomers.
      Phoenicians and Greeks lived there for more than 2 thousand years.
      And Erdogan will not solve the "question", especially since the gas was discovered recently.
      1. Alexy
        Alexy 29 August 2020 11: 13 New
        +1
        And who is not a stranger in the 21st century? Turks have been living there for about 6 centuries.
        1. pytar
          pytar 29 August 2020 11: 59 New
          +1
          And who is not a stranger in the 21st century? Turks have been living there for about 6 centuries.

          So the Greeks have lived on these islands for 3 thousand years, and they still live! The sea itself is called the Aegean Sea (Αιγαίο Πέλαγος Yegyo Pelagos), after the ancient Greek city of Aegea in Achaea! It is also called in Turkish - Ege Denizi!
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 29 August 2020 07: 55 New
    +1
    laughing Like the last "Chinese" warning, in the sense of the French ... Macron, about the "red" lines for Turkey, has already said more than once ... There will be no action ... Business, everyone is tied ...
  8. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 29 August 2020 08: 06 New
    +3
    They say that Macron picks out gray hair from his teeth in the morning, what a prankster.
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 August 2020 08: 06 New
    -2
    Erdogan: I don’t even understand what this lover of old women said? Arabs chtoli to him! Something like that. I wonder who will be the first to shoot seriously. In Libya, the Americans chose Turkey as their beloved wife. One AUG in Mediterranean and in Libya is silence! Uncle SAM will not be a loser anyway. hi
  10. Doccor18
    Doccor18 29 August 2020 08: 24 New
    +3
    Turkey does not behave like a NATO ally ": Macron announced" red lines "for Ankara

    The Janissaries have been serving the Aglo-Saxons for over 200 years, more often against Russia. None of this changes. And everything else is lyrics and fakes. They still serve the Anglo-Saxons ...
    1. 16329
      16329 29 August 2020 15: 44 New
      0
      Not quite so, in the 18th century the Ottoman Empire was actively supported by France (before the revolution), during the Napoleonic wars, Russia and Turkey, (during the campaigns of Suvorov and Ushakov), were allies, then the war of 1806-12 began with the support of Bonaparte, was extended by the British subsidies during the Peace of Tilsit, and at the end it was delayed with French support,
      After the Napoleonic Wars, the Ottoman Empire sometimes fights with Russia, then enjoys its support, then the "Crimean War", where it was the French troops who distinguished themselves, and the British were remembered for the Balaklava massacre, the failed assaults of Sevastopol and piracy on the seas adjacent to Russia
      After the defeat in the war of 1877-1878, Turkey came under German influence, and after the defeat in the First World War it became an ally of Soviet Russia, fighting with Greece, which was supported by the British.
      German influence in Turkey gives way to American influence only at the end of World War II
      So everything is much more complicated
  11. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 29 August 2020 08: 27 New
    0
    And Vaska listens and continues to eat :-)
    At the same time, the United States, together with the terrorists, are openly and calmly plundering the resources of sovereign Syria.
    They are ready to benefit even through a conflict within NATO. Nothing personal just business :-)
  12. Thrifty
    Thrifty 29 August 2020 08: 47 New
    0
    Red line? And why not Eurotalirant, not blue? ?? lol It will be fun to look at the Sultan near the blue line. ... laughing
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 09: 02 New
    +2
    laughing When the resources are dumb, the naked-footed European woman simply starts to plunder, and so in the modern world unleashing another slaughter is very fraught for herself, you can cover up with a fig leaf about the "right" "justice" of "democracy". laughing
  14. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 09: 04 New
    -1
    The modern Turkish sultan should already be dazzled by red. laughing
  15. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 09: 12 New
    +1
    And on the third day, Hawkeye noticed that there was only one wall in the barn. Turkey has been at war with the Kurds - NATO's "regional partner" for decades, fought with Greece - the countries of one military bloc are openly preparing for war against each other, occupying part of Cyprus, an EU member. And suddenly Macron noticed that something was wrong. laughing
  16. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 09: 15 New
    -2
    The NATO swayed the pipe (C). A monolithic oven understands this way - loosening brick by brick. You look, the blower fell out, the firebox opened ... laughing bully
  17. HAM
    HAM 29 August 2020 09: 51 New
    +2
    All the same, Turkey is not Libya ..... here Macron risks falling into Erdogan's harem. Something Macron became chatty too much ...
  18. sergo1914
    sergo1914 29 August 2020 10: 04 New
    +1
    However. Hot Finnish guys are being detected.
  19. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 29 August 2020 11: 05 New
    +4
    Erdogan is already with all four feet in Syria, in a hollow growth in Libya, boiling water in Lebanon, "stuck a knife" in the back, voted FOR the adoption of sanctions against Russia after the Crimean events in the UN, interrupts arms deals and supplies drones to Ukraine, and for him, the Russians, as one, drown, as if nothing had happened. lol
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 29 August 2020 11: 55 New
      +4
      This also surprises me. Erdogan mocks Russia as he wants
      (as well as over everyone else),
      but the Russians love him: "a strong man", "he does what he wants."
    2. borberd
      borberd 29 August 2020 14: 42 New
      +3
      He shot down a Russian attack aircraft, boasted of it for a long time, although later, when it became profitable, he found a switchman from the Air Force, on whom he threw all the blame. Although with the naked eye it was clear that the order for destruction came from above. Declassified Russian "Armor" in Syria and Libya, thereby undermining their export potential. Those who bought, because of the penalties, probably will not give up, but I have cut off new buyers in the bud - those who have brains. And all the same, most of the VO drown for him. Strange ... belay
      1. Rebe haim
        Rebe haim 29 August 2020 17: 36 New
        +2
        Dr. von Ebing long ago coined the term for this behavior - masochism ... yes
      2. Quadro
        Quadro 29 August 2020 22: 49 New
        -3
        Quote: borberd
        He shot down a Russian attack aircraft, boasted of it for a long time, although later, when it became profitable, he found a switchman from the Air Force, on whom he threw all the blame. Although with the naked eye it was clear that the order for destruction came from above. Declassified Russian "Armor" in Syria and Libya, thereby undermining their export potential. Those who bought, because of the penalties, probably will not give up, but I have cut off new buyers in the bud - those who have brains. And all the same, most of the VO drown for him. Strange ... belay

        Oh, those storytellers. Will you provide facts instead of fighting? These shells were zeroed out by Turkish drones, several dozen against several units, the photos of the "destroyed" shells for the most part cannot be identified, or it is not them at all .. And for the attack aircraft they "accidentally" exploded next to the air force training and many of them went to Allah ...
        1. borberd
          borberd 29 August 2020 23: 46 New
          0
          What should I present to you, you already know everything and facts are not important for you. OBS - the Turks have something exploded. Khe-khe lol ... Laughed, probably a patriot. fool
        2. KARAKURT777
          KARAKURT777 31 August 2020 09: 04 New
          -1
          As much as you would like it so much, but the world saw the opposite! wink
    3. KARAKURT777
      KARAKURT777 31 August 2020 09: 02 New
      0
      I now do not understand when the Ottomans saved you Jews from the Spaniards, etc. you were kind of grateful to them. And why are you so angry with the Turks? Ahh .. I understand they interfere with your plans for BV))) One famous ruler, who was burned in the literal sense of the word, correctly noted that Jews are ungrateful))
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 August 2020 11: 17 New
    +1
    Emmanuel Macron says Turkey interferes in Syria
    Wow! Brought Erdogash Makritz ... Macron! laughing
  21. Coconut
    Coconut 29 August 2020 12: 11 New
    0
    Another empty delusion ...
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 12: 30 New
    -3
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Erdogan is already with all four feet in Syria, in a hollow growth in Libya, boiling water in Lebanon, "stuck a knife" in the back, voted FOR the adoption of sanctions against Russia after the Crimean events in the UN, interrupts arms deals and supplies drones to Ukraine, and for him, the Russians, as one, drown, as if nothing had happened. lol

    And this is of course "son of a bitch", but this is our "son of a bitch". laughing
  23. iouris
    iouris 29 August 2020 12: 46 New
    0
    Erdogan will announce "red lines" for France. Business then ...
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 12: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    This also surprises me. Erdogan mocks Russia as he wants
    (as well as over everyone else),
    but the Russians love him: "a strong man", "he does what he wants."

    Where did he "scoff"? [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/LSwXBp4arZQ] laughing
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 29 August 2020 13: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Where did he "scoff"?

      .Russia has repeatedly announced the end of active hostilities in Syria. And suddenly a general dies there, and his fellow officers are wounded. Russian aviation continues to bomb positions of militants in the Idlib de-escalation zone (ZD). And on the way of patrolling our servicemen, explosions occur regularly.

      A number of Telegram channels have published a confession of one of the pro-Turkish groups that claimed responsibility for this terrorist act. According to social networks, this was done by the "Group of revolutionaries in the lands of Deir ez-Zor" ("Tajamua as-Sairin fi Ard Deir ez-Zor"), which is part of the Syrian National Army (SNA). The headquarters of the SNA is in Turkey. Ankara-funded militants have already emerged in central Syria and in territories controlled by Assad's troops.

      In addition, it turns out that Turkey is only verbally coordinating its military actions with Russia, but in fact organizing military actions not only against the Syrian regime, but also against the Russian military personnel. It seems that this combat activity of Ankara will only grow. The Syrian Monitoring Center for Human Rights (SOHR) and Arab media reported that seven Turkish military convoys entered the Syrian Arab Republic (SAR) on August 19. The convoys include 450 vehicles and combat vehicles, as well as 2,5 thousand military. This is a whole military brigade. The de-escalation zone has already hosted at least 25 Turkish military bases and facilities with a total strength of up to 10 servicemen.

      In Arab and Kurdish social networks, it is noted that some units that entered the Idlib zone were involved in offensive operations. Turkish reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were also seen in the Greater Idlib area. Several Bayraktar TB2 UAVs flew over the administrative center of the region, as well as near the village of Nakhlaya.
  25. Wolf
    Wolf 29 August 2020 13: 33 New
    -1
    I understand that Ankara only respects concrete actions. In this regard, we are ready to present to them (to the Turks) the "red lines" in the region. 

    Who is WE and in front of them? Pasta says in abundance, already lost?
    Who are we Imanuel? England is in Cyprus and is silent as a fish.
    At the end, he may end up in the Sultan's harem, and the sultans have always lured men, or is this what he wants? laughing
    With what for the Sultan of Macaroni or do you want the Turks to organize a triumphal meeting in Paris? , and they will start with Marseilles, you yourself have destroyed Francio long ago, and Napoleon is not here, the threads of Korzikantsi will fight for you! Something like this can happen.
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 29 August 2020 13: 37 New
      -2
      And Macaroni fell into the Sultan's harem, so later historians will interpret events.
  26. Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 29 August 2020 14: 19 New
    +3
    as I like the comments, everyone has already forgotten that the Turkish sabak shot down our plane, our pilots were killed
  27. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 August 2020 16: 44 New
    0
    I understand that Ankara only respects concrete actions.

    Does someone else act differently?
    Suffice it to recall the attitude to the 100500th "last" Chinese warning ...
  28. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 19: 05 New
    -1
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Where did he "scoff"?

    .Russia has repeatedly announced the end of active hostilities in Syria. And suddenly a general dies there, and his fellow officers are wounded. Russian aviation continues to bomb positions of militants in the Idlib de-escalation zone (ZD). And on the way of patrolling our servicemen, explosions occur regularly.

    A number of Telegram channels have published a confession of one of the pro-Turkish groups that claimed responsibility for this terrorist act. According to social networks, this was done by the "Group of revolutionaries in the lands of Deir ez-Zor" ("Tajamua as-Sairin fi Ard Deir ez-Zor"), which is part of the Syrian National Army (SNA). The headquarters of the SNA is in Turkey. Ankara-funded militants have already emerged in central Syria and in territories controlled by Assad's troops.

    In addition, it turns out that Turkey is only verbally coordinating its military actions with Russia, but in fact organizing military actions not only against the Syrian regime, but also against the Russian military personnel. It seems that this combat activity of Ankara will only grow. The Syrian Monitoring Center for Human Rights (SOHR) and Arab media reported that seven Turkish military convoys entered the Syrian Arab Republic (SAR) on August 19. The convoys include 450 vehicles and combat vehicles, as well as 2,5 thousand military. This is a whole military brigade. The de-escalation zone has already hosted at least 25 Turkish military bases and facilities with a total strength of up to 10 servicemen.

    In Arab and Kurdish social networks, it is noted that some units that entered the Idlib zone were involved in offensive operations. Turkish reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were also seen in the Greater Idlib area. Several Bayraktar TB2 UAVs flew over the administrative center of the region, as well as near the village of Nakhlaya.

    laughing
  29. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 August 2020 19: 06 New
    -1
    Quote: Citelle 2013
    as I like the comments, everyone has already forgotten that the Turkish sabak shot down our plane, our pilots were killed

    sabaka - laughing This is the right dog.
  30. Radius
    Radius 29 August 2020 19: 43 New
    0
    Quote: g1v2
    I would not be so sure of that. Macron is extremely proud. He and Trump then fell out because Trump treated him disrespectfully. PM may well go to aggravation. Especially if the Greeks, Emirates and Egyptians support him.

    There is no doubt that all of the above will support Macron, if what ... But "if what" has not yet come and is unlikely to come. Erdogan decisively crosses the red lines, you can't take that away from him. And Macron's French touchiness can play a bad joke with him. Macron is not Sarkozy, and Erdogan is not Gaddafi ...
  31. Alkatrass A
    Alkatrass A 1 September 2020 14: 54 New
    0
    For Erdogan, the loop is crying ...