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In the US: China builds new generation J-20 fighters, but uses a fleet of obsolete air tankers

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China reacted painfully to an article in the American press, which spoke about the problems of the PLA Air Force with refueling air fleet... In particular, the American observer pointed out that with the growing number of new generation fighters in the Chinese air force, the number of air tankers has remained practically unchanged in recent years.


In the US media:

China is developing its fighters, but it also has to rely on an outdated fleet of tankers with technology more than half a century old.

It was noted that refueling using old technologies (meaning the technology of using aviation refueling tankers produced in the USSR and not undergone modernization) leads to the fact that J-20 fighters become more vulnerable due to the increase in the time required to replenish the tanks with fuel.

China is responding by developing its own air tanker fleet. An example is the first Chinese heavy military transport aircraft Y-20 with a range of up to 4,5 thousand km with a full payload.

However, to date, the fleet of aircraft refuelers - one of the Y-20 variants - is virtually absent. Tests of the air tanker are underway. As noted by PLA Air Force pilot Teng Hui, this machine will go to the troops in 2021. Accordingly, this still does not allow fully supporting the concept that China is trying to implement today. This concept is associated with the constant patrolling of the latest fighter aircraft in the airspace in the area of ​​remote island territories, including disputed territories in the South China Sea.

At the same time, the Chinese media, reacting to American publications, write that "the fleet of air tankers will be significantly expanded in the coming years."

So far, the Il-78 and the Chinese H-6U are among the Chinese air refuellers, which loses to the first in terms of payload mass.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 28 August 2020 09: 25
    +9
    What's wrong with old tankers? Are the pumps pumping slowly?
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 28 August 2020 09: 29
      +9
      Do not support the American strategy of exhausting the enemy running an arms race.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 28 August 2020 09: 37
      0
      Quote: Pereira
      What's wrong with old tankers? Are the pumps pumping slowly?

      according to the American analyst, apparently so .. it would not hurt to give comparative figures ..
      It was noted that refueling using old technologies (meaning the technology of using aircraft refuellers produced in the USSR and not undergoing modernization) leads to the fact that J-20 fighters become more vulnerable due to the increase in the time required to replenish the tanks with fuel
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 28 August 2020 09: 44
        +2
        I've just invented a new refueling technology.
        Imagine, the ramp at the IL-76 opens and the soldiers are dropping down drones - hanging tanks with kerosene.
        The drones fly up to the next bomber on the same course, stick to it and start pumping. And the tanker turns back.
        The bomber flies on, and the tanks on the remnants of fuel catch up with the transport worker and the soldiers by the ropes drag them back.
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 28 August 2020 10: 04
      +6
      Quote: Pereira
      What's wrong with old tankers? Are the pumps pumping slowly?

      EMNIP, the "hose-cone" system has one and a half times less productivity than the "rod". But on the other hand, the "rod" refuellers have one filling point, and the "hose-cone" ones have three (or two, because going to the cones of three cars is still that acrobatics).

      Plus, the boom system is less demanding on the qualifications of the crew of the aircraft being refueled: when using it, the crew does not need to drive a multi-ton vehicle into a small area of ​​space in which the boom will fall into a dangling cone. Instead, the crew of the "fuel receiver" only needs to fly with a constant heading, height and speed behind and below the tanker, and the task of docking the boom falls on the shoulders of a specially trained operator. Which, moreover, drives the boom into the throat, controlling not the entire aircraft, but only a much lighter controllable part of the boom.

      And, finally, what is easier: to train all crews in refueling acrobatics, or only tanker operators? smile
    4. Borik
      Borik 28 August 2020 10: 31
      0
      Pereira (Michael)
      Today, 09: 25
      NEW
      +1
      What's wrong with old tankers? Are the pumps pumping slowly?


      Here are the Americans, how caring they are towards others. It is necessary to show and point out to the neighbor that everything is bad and terrible with them. Another would remain silent, rejoicing that a neighbor has something wrong, so they are not, they are pointing a finger, look, and how are you a neighbor going to fight if you have something bad (Airplanes) and this is not suitable (Pumps). Apparently I bought it not there and from those
    5. venik
      venik 28 August 2020 13: 50
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      What's wrong with old tankers? Are the pumps pumping slowly?

      =======
      Yes, no matter how quickly they rocked, no matter how well the tankers kept their course and speed, no matter how accurately the fuel rods were pulled out, no matter how long they could stay in the air ... All the same, they will have one irresistible "disadvantage" - they are NOT AMERICAN !!! So - a priori - they can't be good ...
    6. grandfather_Kostya
      grandfather_Kostya 28 August 2020 17: 59
      +1
      The pressure in a flexible hose is by definition less than that in a rigid pipe. Hence the different refueling speed.
      1. Gust
        Gust 31 August 2020 11: 26
        0
        By Whose Definition? Under what conditions - equal inner diameter, equal to weight, equal to length, equal to capacity?
  2. Coconut
    Coconut 28 August 2020 09: 59
    -3
    China copier in the size of the whole world ... sad and what the Chinese themselves created (in terms of weapons) I would like to see .. belay
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 August 2020 10: 30
    +1
    with technologies more than half a century ago.
    So that the American does not criticize. As for the technology, the Chinese tried to insert a hairpin in vain. The B-52s themselves still fly, the A-10s were first going to be removed from service, then they decided to leave. Is the war with Chinese hi-tech companies just started? They are trying to remove a serious competitor from the market.
  4. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 28 August 2020 11: 01
    0
    Ukraine - 23 Tu-95MS, as of 1993. The bombers were in service with the 1006th Heavy Bomber Aviation Regiment, which was based at the Uzin airbase. The airbase ceased to exist in 1998 after the government of Ukraine decided to destroy the Tu-95MS, and the Il-78 tanker aircraft to re-equip for commercial cargo transportation

    The "good neighbor" helped us a lot with heavy aviation.


    As I remember the heart skips. And when the production was cut down, it didn't give a damn about them ...
  5. boriz
    boriz 28 August 2020 12: 07
    +1
    So they have a long-range Tu-16 bomber nee. Nobody notices this. Compared to it, the Il 78 is an ultra-modern aircraft.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 28 August 2020 13: 33
      0
      The main thing is that they are quite enough.
  6. Quadro
    Quadro 28 August 2020 17: 10
    0
    And the n * and * ndosy will not tell us about the "ultra-modern" B52 and A-10?
  7. Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 28 August 2020 21: 21
    0
    Honestly, to put 100 RVV on this tanker ... How is it, "Pss ... man, do you want to get air supremacy for reasonable money?"