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New multipurpose nuclear submarines "Yasen-M" will receive the KR "Caliber-M"

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New multipurpose nuclear submarines "Yasen-M" will receive the KR "Caliber-M"

New Project 885M Yasen-M multipurpose nuclear submarines, laid down at Sevmash on July 20, will become the first carriers of the fundamentally new Kalibr-M cruise missiles. This is reported by TASS with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.


According to the source, the laid down nuclear submarines Voronezh and Vladivostok will be armed with the new Kalibr-M cruise missiles with a range of more than 4 km. The new missiles will either carry a conventional high-explosive fragmentation warhead or be equipped with nuclear warheads.

The new multipurpose submarines will be carriers of the fundamentally new "Calibrov-M" with a firing range of over 4 km. New submarines will be better prepared for a non-nuclear strategic deterrent mission than their predecessors

- the agency leads the words of the source.

As a reminder, the project 885M Yasen-M multipurpose nuclear submarines Voronezh and Vladivostok are planned to be launched in 2024 and 2025 and transferred the fleet until 2027 year.

Earlier it was reported that the main armament of the Yasen-M submarines is the Kalibr and Onyx cruise missiles; in the future, they should also receive the Zircon hypersonic missile undergoing testing.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 August 2020 09: 23 New
    +2
    I hope this is not a "bullet" from journalists. More than 4000 km.
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 28 August 2020 09: 27 New
      10
      Quote: tralflot1832
      I hope this is not a "bullet" from journalists. More than 4000 km.

      For the aviation X-101, 5500 km are declared. So, in principle, it is plausible, since the dimensions of the launcher make it possible to make the rocket "thicker" due to additional tanks.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 28 August 2020 09: 37 New
        -10
        Is the M index marine? It differs from the ground one, it is painted with paint resistant to sea water. Then how much is ground, also over 4000 km? Purely logical. good
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 28 August 2020 09: 38 New
          +9
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Is the M index marine?

          Upgraded, most likely.
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Ground then how much, also for 4000 km?

          Huh.
          1. Liam
            Liam 28 August 2020 09: 48 New
            -20
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Ground then how much, also for 4000 km?

            Huh.

            Himself is not funny?
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 28 August 2020 09: 59 New
              13
              Quote: Liam
              Himself is not funny?

              It's funny. Liam, we've talked about this before. Your "argumentation" boils down to the fact that "this cannot be, because it can never be."
              1. Liam
                Liam 28 August 2020 10: 08 New
                -10
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Funny

                Well, thank God. And when a person's sense of humor refuses, it's a disaster)
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 28 August 2020 10: 13 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Liam
                  Well, thank God.

                  It's good that you're not afraid to look funny. But your desire to find yourself in funny situations is somewhat strange :) However ... am I my brother's keeper? :))))
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 28 August 2020 13: 53 New
              +3
              Quote: Liam
              Ground then how much, also for 4000 km?

              Huh.

              Himself is not funny?

              Even a simple Caliber, which has half its warheads, is capable of flying 4000 km. And what did you see funny here, young man? Your stupidity?
          2. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 28 August 2020 17: 14 New
            +2
            More "Caliber" good and different! Refined and modernized! Involved in the production of success and luck, and adversaries - leaky diapers! laughing laughing laughing
        2. Kalmar
          Kalmar 28 August 2020 09: 39 New
          +7
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Is the M index marine?

          Rather, "modernized": "Calibers" and so all sea; about the land option so far only talk (in light of the cancellation of the INF Treaty).
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        3. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 28 August 2020 10: 10 New
          +7
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Is the M index marine? It differs from the ground one, it is painted with paint resistant to sea water. Then how much is ground, also over 4000 km? Purely logical. good

          The M index means modernized. KR Caliber was originally a sea-based KR. And only after the US withdrawn from the INF Treaty was the task set to "land" the sea-based KR Caliber, that is, to make a land-based KR out of it.
      2. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 28 August 2020 10: 22 New
        -1
        Quote: Kalmar
        Quote: tralflot1832
        I hope this is not a "bullet" from journalists. More than 4000 km.

        For the aviation X-101, 5500 km are declared. So, in principle, it is plausible, since the dimensions of the launcher make it possible to make the rocket "thicker" due to additional tanks.


        The X-101 has a hitting radius of no more than 3000-3500 km, the Kh-102 in the 4000-4500 km region.
        According to some reports, the adoption of new missiles took place in 2013 after the deployment of their serial production, which began in 2011. Due to the highest accuracy (1-5 meters) and long range (according to various estimates, up to 3500 km), the Kh-101 missile even with a conventional warhead, it is capable of solving not only tactical, but also strategic tasks. It was also reported about the development since 2000 of the X-SD medium-range missile using ready-made technical solutions X-101, with the same control system, but with reduced dimensions and firing range.



        Presumptive characteristics

        long-range cruise missile Kh-101 (Kh-102)



        Launch weight, kg

        2200 ... 2400

        Warhead weight, kg

        400

        Warhead equipment type

        conventional or nuclear

        Firing range, km

        3000 ... 3500

        Maximum speed, m / s

        250 ... 270

        Cruising speed, m / s

        190 ... 200

        Main dimensions, mm:



        - length

        ~ 7600

        - wing span

        ~ 4400

        - body width

        ~ 750

        EPR area, sq.m

        ~ 0.01

        Flight height, m:



        - minimum

        30 ... 70

        - maximum marching

        6000

        Onboard control system

        Autonomous, inertial terrain correction from a laser altimeter and satellite navigation system

        Guidance on the final section - television or radar seeker


        http://otvaga2004.ru/kaleydoskop/kaleydoskop-air/raketa-x-101/
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 28 August 2020 10: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          The X-101 has a hitting radius of no more than 3000-3500 km, the Kh-102 in the 4000-4500 km region.

          On Wikipedia, somewhere on VO and in a couple of Internet articles, up to 5500 were indicated. Apparently, there is no exact data in open sources. One way or another, the order "up to 4000 km" for the "Caliber" in nuclear equipment with additional. Bucks looks still achievable. It's hard to say how it is in reality.
          1. bayard
            bayard 28 August 2020 22: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Kalmar
            for "Caliber" in nuclear equipment with add. Bucks looks still achievable

            "Caliber-M" will have no add. tanks, and INCREASED body diameter up to about 650 mm. , therefore, the fuel will arrive approximately twice, and the weight of the warhead can be increased by 1,5-2 times. The decision was asked by itself, because the launch cup is designed for the start of "Onyx" with a diameter of 650 mm.
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 28 August 2020 10: 33 New
          0
          Znvchit has something to zhahnut on the foe and his henchmen. I'm waiting for a squeal from Europe and the State Department. Good news. Thank you. hi
      3. PROXOR
        PROXOR 28 August 2020 12: 48 New
        +3
        5500 when starting from the air. And this one needs to get out of the TA, turn upward, turn on the starting engine above the water surface and gain altitude. It will take a lot of fuel.
        1. bayard
          bayard 28 August 2020 22: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: PROXOR
          And this one needs to get out of TA

          This one will come out of the vertical launcher, of which the Yasen-M has 40 pieces. behind the wheelhouse.
          From TA it is possible to launch only the usual "Caliber-PL" with a diameter of 533 mm.
          1. Beregovic_1
            Beregovic_1 28 August 2020 22: 38 New
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            of which "Ash-M" has 40 pcs. behind the wheelhouse
            32 pieces. The Yaseny-M's armament did not change. I don't know where this fake comes from on the network.
            1. bayard
              bayard 29 August 2020 00: 52 New
              +1
              Indeed - walks, from open sources and took. request
              But still, it would be much more pragmatic to build, instead of "Ash", "Borei-K" with a much larger number of missile launchers in the launchers. And the price would be about the same as the classic "Borey", and the striking power would increase several times, and the price would come out twice as cheap.
              And the capacity for the construction of the MAPL would be freed up.
              And so, for the sake of not even 40, but 32 RC, to build such a colossus, which is not suitable for the role of an MAPL at all, and as a shock one, it is under-armed. Even the "Baton" after upgrading to 72 CD will carry ...
              A very unbalanced program.
              And the fact that instead of repairing existing and awaiting repairs of MAPLs, they build "unmatched" Poseidon carriers ... is doubly surprising. The fleet was left without multipurpose submarines, but it has a whole zoo of percussion aircraft, which there is SOMEONE to protect. And even more so there are no pennants left for the actual multi-purpose tasks.
              Who planned THIS?
              Who are THESE "great strategists"?
              Everyone is known. yes
              And untouchable. bully
              1. Beregovic_1
                Beregovic_1 29 August 2020 12: 47 New
                0
                for the sake of not even 40, but 32 CR to build such a colossus, which is not suitable for the role of an MAPL at all, and as a shock one it is under-armed.
                The Americans are building multipurpose boats with 8-12 missiles, and nothing like that ... They have a balanced fleet, and no one considers Virginia a failure. "Ash" was conceived as a universal boat to replace the zoo projects. It was planned that it would replace the 949 project as a shock, and 945, 671 and 971 as a hunter. The idea was not bad, but the implementation ... We have other technologies, other opportunities, a different school of shipbuilding. There are a lot of innovations in the project, therefore it is long and expensive, but this does not mean that it is bad. It surpasses all our previous projects in terms of armament, low noise and capabilities of the SAC, and is inferior in price to the same "Virginia". There are only claims to torpedo weapons.
                Even the "Baton" after upgrading to 72 CD will carry ...
                Again, despite the advertisements and promises, not a single Project 949 boat on Onyx has been rearmed, and it is not a fact that it will be. So in fact there are 24 Baton missiles against 32 (42 when launched from a TA) Ash missiles.
                Who planned THIS?
                Who are THESE "great strategists"?
                Everyone is known
                And untouchable. bully
                Well planned. The new project "Husky" is very dubious, and the notorious "Poseidons" and their carriers also raise many questions. At the same time, instead of the Husky, two more boats of Project 2 were laid, which is good news. Large series = correction of errors + cheaper cost of each ship in the series.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 29 August 2020 16: 46 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Beregovyhok_1
                  Well planned.

                  The fact that all MAPLs were left without repairs?
                  "Ash" is still a SSGN, not a MAPL, and a classic one. According to Soviet plans, he was supposed to replace the 949 project. And this is really a very good SSGN, with a very good GAC.
                  But the price!
                  And do not compare with Virginias, they have a completely different pricing. Better to compare with Borey, which, as I already wrote, may well be a carrier of CD, only it will carry them in much larger (several times) quantities. And Shoigu, by the way , advanced the construction of such a version of "Borea", but after the completion of the current programs.
                  The price of "Borea" is 1,5 - 2 times lower than the price of "Ash".
                  BC is about 3,5 times higher.
                  Wearable torpedo stock:
                  "Ash" - 30 pcs.
                  "Northwind" - 40 pcs.
                  "Borey" has a water cannon (low noise), "Ash" - no.
                  But "Ash" has a very good SAC ... and "Borey" has a truncated version of it.
                  So, choosing this direction, the entire program for the construction of SSGNs (Ash) would cost 2 (!) Times cheaper, construction would proceed at a higher pace (unification, uniformity), and the saved funds would make it possible to design and build a normal MAPL in dimension 945 project, as planned under the USSR.
                  And even choosing the "Ash" as a promising SSGN, everything would be quite decent if the "leftovers" of funds would not have gone to the "Poseidon" and its carriers!
                  Exactly the overruns under the construction program of "Ash" and "Poseidon" with its carriers gobbled up all the remnants of the budget and shipbuilding resources ... and the MAPL and the SSGN of the previous construction turned out to be WITHOUT REPAIR.
                  Not only because of a lack of money, but also because of a lack of personnel and ship repair facilities ... because they built / rebuilt the Poseidon carriers!
                  And the cherry on the cake - "Husky \ Laika", which was expected to be seen in the guise of the reincarnated "Lyra" or 945 project, but ... (!) Saw in the form of a swinging "Ash-M" - the same dimension and VI.
                  And even higher prices.
                  And this is a cross on hopes of waiting for the fleets of normal MAPLs - multipurpose nuclear submarines with torpedo tubes, through which, if necessary, they perfectly shoot and CD, in a moderate (!) Displacement (which will make the price just as moderate and will allow them to be built in a large enough series to suffice for all tasks.
                  And as a result, we will / will have a sufficiently large fleet of IMPACT PLAINS, and we will almost lose a lot of target ones (971 pr. Will not be enough for a long time.
                  That's why I DO NOT BELIEVE that
                  Quote: Beregovyhok_1
                  Planned properly

                  ... and I think that at the end of the Soviet era, they planned much better.
                  But we are not looking for easy ways.
                  With us, more and more often it is across the common sense.
                  hi
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 28 August 2020 09: 39 New
      +4
      This is not even a bullet, it is a control BOPS to the deceased of the INF Treaty.
      1. Crash
        Crash 28 August 2020 11: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: Wedmak
        control BOPS to the deceased RIAC treaties

        "Caliber" to the INF Treaty no sideways. He is sea-based
  2. Berber
    Berber 28 August 2020 09: 25 New
    +4
    Like this. It seems that he is not a "strategist", but he will grind a couple of cities into dust if desired. Our navy's teeth are growing.
  3. A009
    A009 28 August 2020 09: 35 New
    +4
    Good news in the morning. If the information is correct, of course.
  4. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 August 2020 09: 45 New
    +4
    "Caliber-M" with a flight range of more than 4 thousand km can be installed on any ship from a small RC and above.
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 28 August 2020 09: 57 New
      -1
      how easy it is with you two locksmiths took and put on any ship
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 28 August 2020 15: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: Ryaruav
        how easy it is with you two locksmiths took and put on any ship
        Well, why?
        Small missile ships of the project 21631 "Buyan-M" and patrol ships of the project 11661 "Gepard" in the course of modernization will receive an increased ammunition load of cruise missiles "Caliber", the Navy is interested in this project. Renat Mistakhov, head of the Ak Bars shipbuilding corporation, said this in an interview with TASS.
        "We have proposed for two projects 21631 and 11661 a concept with an increase in displacement. On Buyans, for example, we proposed to supply 16 launchers, instead of 8. And on Cheetahs we proposed expanding missile weapons to 24 launchers," Mistakhov said.
    2. WingCat
      WingCat 28 August 2020 09: 59 New
      0
      Then they would put it on all the ash trees, since it is only larger than the size of the missiles and it will not fit into the old ones.
      1. Beregovic_1
        Beregovic_1 28 August 2020 22: 40 New
        0
        Perhaps the matter is in limiting the length of the TPK. she is about 8 m.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 28 August 2020 10: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Pavel57
      "Caliber-M" with a flight range of more than 4 thousand km can be installed on any ship from a small RC and above.

      Yeah ... and the problems of detection and target designation - do not care!
  5. Coconut
    Coconut 28 August 2020 09: 55 New
    +4
    "Calibrov-M" with a firing range of over 4 thousand km.

    Who recently pressed on my ears saying that the calibers are not nuclear 1.5 and nuclear 2 t.km. here's the answer ... wink
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 28 August 2020 10: 13 New
      +1
      And what does this have to do with it? Perhaps the Caliber-M will have a new engine from the same X-50 and new fuel, which will ultimately give such an increase in performance characteristics.
    2. Crash
      Crash 28 August 2020 11: 29 New
      0
      "Caliber", according to unconfirmed reports - up to 2,6.
      "Caliber-M" announced for 4
    3. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 28 August 2020 22: 44 New
      +1
      "Caliber" is the reincarnation of the Soviet 3S10 "Granat" rocket, which is in service with Project 671. "Granat" flew 3000 km from a nuclear warhead, and was launched from a TA. I see no reason why the Caliber shouldn't fly this range. The firing data for 1500 is related to the fact that there were no confirmed long-range launches.
  6. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 28 August 2020 09: 55 New
    -2
    where are the zircons? caliber it seems to have passed
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 28 August 2020 10: 14 New
      +4
      On state trials of Zircons. Caliber passed, the next step is Caliber-M.
  7. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 August 2020 11: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Yeah ... and the problems of detection and target designation - do not care!

    I am sure that we are talking about missiles for striking stationary targets, the coordinates of which are well known.
  8. Old26
    Old26 28 August 2020 12: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Pavel57
    I am sure that we are talking about missiles for striking stationary targets, the coordinates of which are well known.

    Even when shooting at stationary objects, the problem of target designation is not completely eliminated. INS has the ability to accumulate error and how much the deviation will be when firing at 4000 km is an open question. In addition, you should not, as usual, make another "wunderwaffe" out of the newly voiced CD. Long range is good, but long range at subsonic speed is also an increased reaction time of the enemy to this threat.
  9. swzero
    swzero 28 August 2020 13: 45 New
    0
    Why do we need enhanced non-nuclear deterrence capabilities? According to the Papuses, it is excessive, against NATO, we are not strong enough to scare them with conventional weapons. Even Japan is not strong enough to scare them. On the contrary, we need expanded nuclear deterrence capabilities, taking into account the development of pro weapons and the shortage of nuclear weapons.
  10. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 28 August 2020 15: 36 New
    +1
    Why are there so many of them? 885 is too big for MAPL! When will you finally understand?

    Make you reduced Ash by 8000-9000t. 8 TA, without missile silos. And you will have MAPL! What problems?
  11. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 August 2020 16: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Old26
    Even when shooting at stationary objects, the problem of target designation is not completely eliminated. INS has the ability to accumulate error and how much the deviation will be when firing at 4000 km is an open question.


    In cruise missiles, when firing at ground targets, the INS error is reduced either by using systems such as GPS, or through terrain correction (TERCOM). Relief correction is available on 3M-14E.
  12. Old26
    Old26 28 August 2020 20: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Pavel57
    In cruise missiles, when firing at ground targets, the INS error is reduced either by using systems such as GPS, or through terrain correction (TERCOM). Relief correction is available on 3M-14E.

    There must be both. Both GPS and terrain. But such a correction is only possible when the rocket is flying over land. Therefore, the first "Tomahawks" and had restrictions on the launch range from the coastline.
    And the flight over the water surface, where there are no correction points, will be exclusively by INS
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 28 August 2020 21: 21 New
      0
      Means Glonass or restrictions over the sea. There is also astrocorrection.
  13. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 28 August 2020 22: 24 New
    0
    in general, GPS or GLONAS is a weak point for a rocket, who does not believe?
    ps I will explain - a triad, you know how it is ?!
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  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 August 2020 23: 05 New
    0
    Quote: lvov_aleksey
    GPS or GLONAS is a weak point for missiles

    In the face of serious turmoil - as if weak.
  16. Old26
    Old26 28 August 2020 23: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: Pavel57
    Means Glonass or restrictions over the sea. There is also astrocorrection.

    Astro correction was and is only on SLBMs (ICBMs). Not on any cruise missiles.
    It is the limitation over the sea that nullifies all these ranges of our KRs of 4000-5000 km. For in order to hit the target, they will have to go through the correction area. But whether the CD will fall into this section from a distance of 4000 km, taking into account the ANN errors, is a question. Moreover, GLONASS (like GPS) is not an absolute. The signal is either muted, or changes can be introduced into it. This is one of the subsystems of the guidance system, no more
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 29 August 2020 00: 32 New
      0
      Astro correction was still on the Lavochkin-Tempest cruise missile.
  17. Old26
    Old26 29 August 2020 11: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Pavel57
    Astro correction was still on the Lavochkin-Tempest cruise missile.

    Look at the altitude of this rocket and the altitude of the current cruise missiles. Maybe (only maybe) there will be such a system on Zircon-type hypersonic missiles, but not on subsonic cruise missiles.
  18. Alex968m
    Alex968m 29 August 2020 12: 52 New
    -1
    And what is PRINCIPALLY new in it? Hyper- or at least supersonic speed? Not??? Then this is the century before last. Subsonic air defenses are easily knocked out.
    And as for the boat - it's time to go to the Husky.