Derusification of Ukraine. Real result in photos from Kiev streets

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The real war, declared to the Russian language by the "post-Maidan" authorities of Ukraine, has become one of the cornerstones of its domestic policy. As if there are no other problems in the country. The resources, administrative, financial and media, thrown into this business are simply colossal. And the result? I invite you to familiarize yourself with the specific results of forced Ukrainization using the example of specific photographs taken the day before.

Kiev was chosen as the control region. This is central Ukraine, which does not suffer from special nationalist "quirks" of the West, but it is also not as unambiguously Russian-speaking as its East. At first glance, in the capital of the “nezalezhnoy” language of the “aggressor country” (as Russia is called by the “patriots” who feed on power here) there is no and cannot be any place. Yes, you won't find Russian-language signs, signs or price tags in stores here now. The fines imposed for such things at the legislative level are too high, and no one needs problems with possessed nationalist activists.



The law of Ukraine “On ensuring the functioning of the Ukrainian language as a state language”, specially adopted for “coercion to move”, leaves no room for maneuver. For example, its norm, which came into force since the beginning of this year, on a complete ban on any external (or placed on the Internet) advertising in the "wrong language" provides for a repeated violation of it with a fine of 3,4 thousand hryvnia (more than 9 thousand rubles) , 5,1 thousand hryvnia (14 thousand rubles). Who wants to pay that kind of money, and even constantly? In addition, there are additional restrictions in the capital, adopted at the initiative of the nationalist party "Svoboda" in 2017.

So what: is there no Russian language in Kiev? It is worth turning away from advertising signs and billboards, "tied" to firms and enterprises that have clear legal addresses and, therefore, accessible for inspections and punishments by representatives of the vigilant government, as we are convinced of the opposite. Kiev, speaking to its residents in the language of private advertisements and leaflets, is completely Russian-speaking.

They offer work in Russian:



Mostly unpretentious:






By the way, the salary of 9-10 thousand hryvnia (25-27 thousand rubles), by the standards of the Ukrainian capital, is far from luxurious. So, you can live. But many work for less money - especially those who come from the provinces, where such sums cannot be earned at all.

In the same language, real estate agents and those who are looking for guests for hostels and the most inexpensive apartments for daily rent are inviting clients:




And those who sell entire mansions.



In Russian in Kiev you will be offered a loan:



And they will also offer to get rid of him in Russian.

Repair the car:



What do we see in the end? If the Russian language was in reality “not in demand” by Ukrainians and “alien” to them, then now, more than five years after the start of its massive persecution and persecution, it would most likely disappear from circulation. However, nothing like this happens. At the official level, the people of Kiev, like all other residents of "nezalezhnoy", are unambiguously Ukrainian-speaking. However, in everyday life, communication, everyday life, Russian remains their native language. Well, who would write ads that the absolute majority of citizens will not understand or will not accept? Thus, the obsessive and completely divorced from the realities of life, the Ukrainianizing policy of the authorities resulted in a natural “linguistic split of personality” for the inhabitants of the country. In medical terms, schizophrenia ...
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  1. +12
    28 August 2020 13: 01
    Thus, the obsessive and completely divorced from the realities of life, the Ukrainianizing policy of the authorities resulted in a natural “linguistic split of personality” for the inhabitants of the country. In medical terms, schizophrenia ...

    Svidomism of the brain, exacerbated by the saucepan syndrome! feel
    1. +9
      28 August 2020 13: 20
      I am pleased that not all Ukrainians are "led" to the Russophobic policy of the "Kiev authorities", but in fact, their puppeteers. Regardless of their (the authorities') dirty policy for ordinary people who were born in the USSR, Ukrainians and Russians will always be brothers, regardless of the views of a handful of Nazis and marginalized people in Kiev
      1. +5
        29 August 2020 17: 06
        Not. Enough of brothers, sisters, let's get closer to common sense - we are neighbors. Desirable, good neighbors, but that's how it goes.
        With regards to that you are pleased. They - too, the Ukrainians. It is pleasant for them to speak Russian, and to act in Ukrainian. That is, how profitable it is at this moment, it is difficult for them to assess the prospects.
        1. 0
          1 October 2020 08: 49
          Well, I don't know about you, I personally have real brothers and sisters there (by blood). By the way, they are quite sane without any Russophobia and I will not call them "neighbors". And many people in Russia have a similar situation.
    2. +6
      28 August 2020 13: 22
      Quote: LIONnvrsk
      Thus, the obsessive and completely divorced from the realities of life, the Ukrainianizing policy of the authorities resulted in a natural “linguistic split of personality” for the inhabitants of the country. In medical terms, schizophrenia ...

      Svidomism of the brain, exacerbated by the saucepan syndrome! feel

      Hmm, but how the enamel shines winked
    3. +21
      28 August 2020 13: 32
      Quote: LIONnvrsk
      Svidomism of the brain, exacerbated by the saucepan syndrome!

      My mother-in-law's relatives from Kirovograd came to see me in Tallinn, and in a conversation in Russian, they called me a "sworn Muscovite" who seized the Crimea and the occupier. And it's interesting that they are all Russian.
      1. +7
        29 August 2020 10: 10
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: LIONnvrsk
        Svidomism of the brain, exacerbated by the saucepan syndrome!

        My mother-in-law's relatives from Kirovograd came to see me in Tallinn, and in a conversation in Russian, they called me a "sworn Muscovite" who seized the Crimea and the occupier. And it's interesting that they are all Russian.


        It was necessary to call them Bandera. You have merry feasts. You can add pepper by including blacks among the relatives. BLM will take family relationships to new horizons.
        1. +11
          29 August 2020 11: 00
          Quote: sergo1914
          It was necessary to call them Bandera. You have merry feasts.

          That's exactly what I did. He canceled the feast, said that they would have a banquet in Kiev.
    4. +7
      28 August 2020 13: 34
      That is why svidomye and rage, their heroes and rulers get up to all sorts of nonsense, and can not poison the Russian language.
      1. +8
        28 August 2020 15: 36
        You are one of the few who understands the topic correctly. But it is VERY funny and sad to read the comments of dilettantes, terribly far from understanding what is happening in Ukraine, drawing conclusions from their misunderstanding or the fact that someone said something somewhere.

        And Alexander's article is correct. And in the southern RUSSIAN city of Novorossiya, we also have all the signs and official business management in mov. But everyone, with a negligible exception of the ukropatriots-dill, communicate and write, watch and read, think in Russian, discuss Russian news and events. Normal Russian people in a Russian city. For now: forced Ukrainization is in full swing.
        1. +1
          28 August 2020 15: 41
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          For now: forced Ukrainization is in full swing.

          Can not be forced.
        2. +1
          30 August 2020 12: 59
          I'm embarrassed to ask if this is so "But that's all, with a negligible exception of the ukropatriots-dill", then why are they still commanding you and enforcing their Bandera order? Indeed, even in Kiev, occupied by the Germans, people fought against the Nazis, judging by the book and film "Two Years Over the Abyss"
          1. +4
            30 August 2020 13: 50
            Addressed to Ros52
            Explaining something to someone who does NOT want to understand, but asks provocative questions, knowing the answer well, only with the aim of offending is useless. But I will try. Power was surrendered by traitors and seized so quickly that the relaxed society did not even have time to gasp. A small handful of anti-Maidan supporters were unable to resist the coup. In addition, everyone was convinced that Russia would not allow it. But Russia allowed. Empty chatter does not count. I suppose even having brave wrestling heroes like you (???) would not help.

            And the fight is on. Not the way you imagine it: loud, noisy, pretentious, with announcements and announcements in the media - but it is being conducted. I know two dozen fellow countrymen who are fighting in Donbass. A neighbor was detained for attempting a terrorist attack and is fighting there after his release. The people VERY do not like the arrogant "heroes of the ATO". You've probably heard about the constant clashes with them. Probably heard about the fact that many ATOs and Svidomites (mostly well-known, often do not even mention the simple ones) die in fights, accidents, they are cut, they shoot, explode, thrown out of windows, hang, drown, self-kill and self-buried in forest plantations. Are you sure they always do it themselves? But this is the Patrizan war, the lot of a few quiet, humble fighters. MOST of the rest of the population acts differently. Have you heard anything about civil resistance? Read it.

            I wish you all the best! And mind.
            1. +1
              3 September 2020 17: 01
              Give something to God!
    5. +7
      28 August 2020 14: 58
      And nevertheless - the water wears away the stone. The youth are already strongly Ukrainianized.
  2. +17
    28 August 2020 13: 01
    Let them try to write mathematical analysis in Ukrainian. wassat
    1. +10
      28 August 2020 13: 13
      It would be interesting to read technical literature or documentation on mov smile
      1. +8
        28 August 2020 13: 17
        Yes, yes, or a textbook on quantum physics on the move.
        1. +8
          28 August 2020 14: 51
          Well, why just quantum physics? We tried to translate the railway "Instructions for the movement of trains", "Safety technology" and "Labor protection" into MOV. There was a laugh!
          And the helicopter is also called a helicopter, although for a long time (since Soviet times) there has been a real translation - rotorcraft, which corresponds to the principle of flight with the help of a main rotor. They do not know that helicopter is the OWN NAME of the first helicopter AND AND Sikorsky and is translated from American English (it differs from English British-classical) as "Sunbird".
          1. +1
            29 August 2020 19: 50
            A helicopter is not a solar bird, but a word of ancient Greek origin from the words "ἕλιξ" (helix) - a screw and "πτερόν" (pteron) - a wing, i.e. just flying with a screw)))
        2. +4
          28 August 2020 14: 58
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Yes, yes, or a textbook on quantum physics on the move.

          Will quantum mechanics suit? hi
          1. +8
            28 August 2020 15: 33
            The list of references looks especially funny. Satisfied the ears of a patriot with yonny calls and the theory of zburen, son? Now open up normal textbooks like Landau and Davydov - and finally get down to business.
      2. -13
        28 August 2020 13: 31
        Back in 1988 he studied programming in the Ukrainian language. Then each teacher decided in which language to teach. Even in western Ukraine there were very few such teachers at that time. A person who speaks the language has no problems understanding the material. I think 20 percent of technical subjects were already in wide use. Nothing wrong.
        1. +1
          28 August 2020 13: 58
          Quote: avib
          I think 20 percent of technical subjects were already in wide use. Nothing wrong.

          I don't see any problems either, you know MOV or whatever and you can learn everything. I have only one question - having learned programming in Ukrainian you can work in Russian, English or other languages.
          1. -8
            28 August 2020 14: 43
            Can. I don’t live in Ukraine.
            1. +16
              28 August 2020 14: 52
              Quote: avib
              I don’t live in Ukraine

              Nobody lives in Ukraine. But many live in Ukraine.
              1. -5
                28 August 2020 19: 11
                Something you can sit on. Live in.
                1. +9
                  29 August 2020 16: 29
                  On the ground. In the Bryansk region, in the Oryol region, in the Ukraine.
                  Your ridiculous story - a couple of decades. And with us - it has passed a thousand long ago. The norm of a living language is born on the basis of its use, and not vice versa. This is true, when the language is not fictional, not invented by a pathetic bunch of Russophobes based on dialects, but real, born naturally and evolving together with the people over the centuries, capturing its history, traditions, psychology. You can not understand.
                  1. -13
                    29 August 2020 19: 42
                    Do not treat others so condescendingly, in particular nations. Exclusivity has not yet brought anyone to something good. Be simpler and people will be drawn to you. Arrogance and arrogance will leave you alone - without friends and without allies.
                    1. +6
                      29 August 2020 21: 35
                      Quote: avib
                      Do not be so down on others / in particular nations. Exclusivity has not yet brought anyone to something good. Be simpler and people will be drawn to you. Arrogance and arrogance will leave you alone - without friends and without allies.

                      ===
                      it is you who write about those who chant "ukraine ponad usse"
                    2. +3
                      30 August 2020 03: 57
                      Quote: avib
                      peoples

                      You, unfortunately, call a bunch of Russophobes who are conducting politics on that land a people? That's where the inordinate pride is.
                      Our people live in Ukraine - with our centuries-old history.
                      1. -3
                        30 August 2020 09: 05
                        Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                        You, unfortunately, call a bunch of Russophobes who are conducting politics on that land a people? That's where the inordinate pride is.
                        Our people live in Ukraine - with our centuries-old history.

                        No matter how much sugar you say, it won't taste sweet in your mouth.
                        The people living in Ukraine do not agree with you.
                        Yes, and I am not Ukrainian and do not live in Ukraine. And I in no way represent Ukrainians.
                      2. +1
                        30 August 2020 14: 30
                        Quote: avib
                        The people living in Ukraine do not agree with you.

                        So easily speaks for the whole people only a completely not smart person.
                        Those of them who are mistaken - for the most part have acquired these delusions in some 2 - 3 decades. Dispelling these misconceptions is not a difficult task.
                      3. -4
                        30 August 2020 19: 06
                        Breaking - not building.
                        Just wondering how you can "dispel misconceptions"?
                        They want Crimea and Donbass back, plus an apology. Something I do not believe that this will happen in our century, if at all.
                      4. 0
                        3 September 2020 17: 07
                        Well, tady - go out!
                    3. 0
                      3 September 2020 17: 07
                      And who told you that Russia needs Such-Bandera friends? Let your friends finish the horse in the ditch! And Russia, near its side and on its own land, will endure every mmm ... well, you understand - it won't! Point.
                2. 0
                  3 September 2020 17: 04
                  Better to be IN Ukraine,
                  than in Honduras ... Although - as anyone ...
                3. 0
                  27 October 2020 08: 46
                  They live in Madagascar, Kalimantan, Sinai, ... but only the Ukrainians decided that they could tell the Russians how to speak correctly.
                  1. 0
                    27 October 2020 10: 05
                    An island, a peninsula - it is clear why ON. How can you live on an island? AND В country live. In Russia, in the USA, in Poland, in Belarus, in Japan ...
            2. 0
              28 August 2020 15: 16
              Quote: avib
              I don’t live in Ukraine.

              Neighbor means. I am now sitting in front of "Liviko" and doing scribbling because I have nothing to do.
          2. +11
            28 August 2020 14: 48
            Quote: tihonmarine
            I see no problem

            The first part of the problem is that using the modern Ukrainian language is like scratching eggs with your teeth - only certain animals are able to do it, and people feel uncomfortable physically and mentally.
            The second part of the problem is that the residents of Ukraine have to endure all these inconveniences only in order for their rulers to be able to tear off a piece from the united people for themselves to govern. The modern Ukrainian language is used by them as one of the tools for enhancing discord among the Russian people. And what threatens the Land of Russian strife - we remember from the time of the Mongols.
            1. +2
              28 August 2020 15: 13
              Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
              that scratching eggs with your teeth is obtained only in certain animals, the rest are uncomfortable physically and mentally.

              This is what I wanted to know. All the same, not everyone can scratch. The same thing in programming means.
        2. +12
          28 August 2020 14: 25
          Quote: avib
          studied programming in Ukrainian

          The logical operator of a normal person vs the logical vikonuvach of a person of svidomozgly:

          And - that
          Or - abo
          Inversion - what ??!

          Any code must be maintainable. For this, it (including) must be properly documented. To do this in a fictitious language, in which only you and your friend Rogul from a neighboring village speak, is the height of stupidity.
          1. -4
            28 August 2020 14: 51
            I studied in the union for only 2 years and received my higher education in another country.
            The country is small, so technical literature is not translated into the local language. Although the terminology exists, it is practically not used. Almost 100% software produced in this small country
            intended for the global market. Therefore, EVERYTHING is in English. It would never even occur to anyone to write documentation or comments in non-English code.
            1. +5
              28 August 2020 14: 56
              Quote: avib
              Almost 100% software produced in this small country
              dedicated to the global market

              Congratulations, you wasted a lot of time on a mindless fetish
            2. +1
              3 September 2020 14: 54
              And how then did you manage to teach computer science at school in 2 during 1988 years of study in the USSR? "Your mustache is unstuck," citizen of Israel.
              1. 0
                3 September 2020 17: 07
                at 88 he entered the institute at 90 - left. What doesn't add up?
      3. +6
        28 August 2020 13: 51
        Quote: Pessimist22
        It would be interesting to read technical literature or documentation on mov

        I don't have a technical one, but I can give an excerpt from a medical dictionary, Russian-Latin-Ukrainian.
        Look and understand everything at once without any effort on the part of the brain -

        Anatomy (lat.anatomia) - rosinaztvo
        Appendicitis (lat.appendicitis) - hrobakovitsya
        Atom (Latin atomus) - not, not, not
        Bacteriologist (lat.bacteriologus) - palichkіvets
        Delirium tremens - zapіyna mayachnya
        Biologist (lat.biologus) - zhivnik, zhivnozavets
        Thumb - Broomstick
        Bronchitis (lat. Bronhitus) - dyshkovitsya
        Vaccine (lat.vaccina) - wood chips, wood chips
        Vegetarianism (lat. vegetarianismus) - growing up, growing up, meat-eating
        Venerologist (lat.Venerologus) - statistician
        Vibrator (Latin vibrator) - dvigtyar, drizhar, tremtyar
        Virus (lat. Virus) - other, other
        Viral hepatitis (lat.hepatitis epidemica) - zhovtoparitse
        Vitamin (lat.Vitamin) - Zhitєday
        Hairy chest - Cosmogrudia
        Vulva (lat.Vulva) - trash, stulina, soromitnya
        Sinusitis (lat.highmoritis) - sclerosis, sclerosis
        Hallucination (lat. hallucinatio) - engagement, vividly
        Hallucinogen - the real cause, the see and the cause
        Gastritis (Latin gastritis) - zvina, shlunkovitsya
        Hematologist (lat.haematologus) - bloodline
        Hybrid (Latin hybridus) - skhreschenets
        Hygienist (lat.hygienistus) - zdorovnіvets
        The head of the penis - acorn prutneviy
        Homosexuality (lat.homosexualismus) - one-sidedness
        Influenza (lat.grippus) - wheezing, wheezing, wheezing
        Deodorator (lat.desodorator) - vismor_dnik, znesmor_dzhuvach
        Diabetes mellitus - malt, succubus
        Diarrhea (lat.diarrhoea) - carrying, bіgunka, bіgavitsya, bogachka, rіzachka
        Donor (Latin donor) - just
        1. +10
          28 August 2020 14: 14
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Look and understand everything at once without any effort on the part of the brain

          It's funny, of course, but the "scientific definitions" you cited "on the move" are nothing more than banter.
          This I authoritatively declare to you Yes

          Where the Svidomites really show their foolishness, I will not keep silent, but this "list", I repeat - HOHMA.
          1. -1
            28 August 2020 14: 57
            Quote: Insurgent
            Where the Svidomites really show their foolishness, I will not keep silent, but this "list", I repeat - HOHMA.

            And what didn't you like?
          2. +5
            28 August 2020 15: 01
            But they tried to translate into MOV the railway terms - turnout and moving car (and not only). But if the second was translated with grief in half with the help of THREE words-carriage, which collapsed, then the first could not. We tried it - the stripe version, the strelkovy version, the stripped transition - they returned to the Russian version - the turnout translation, only the Russian version was replaced by the Ukrainian one.
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        3. +8
          28 August 2020 14: 22
          We heard something similar in the joke. Serpent Gorynych in Uzbek-Autogen Aka.
          1. +7
            28 August 2020 15: 01
            Nah ... Autogen-Gyurza! Santa Claus - Kolotun-Babay, zebra - donkey sailor and so on ... wink
            1. +5
              28 August 2020 15: 49
              Koschey the immortal is a stunted, unstable, it's just on the move.
              1. +3
                28 August 2020 17: 12
                Quote: tatarin1972
                Koschey the immortal - unglazed

                As an option - "Zdikhlik nevmerirushchiy", but your option, and the second - nothing more than banter, not related to literary movi.
                1. +5
                  29 August 2020 15: 03
                  Does anyone speak literary mov?
        4. 0
          3 September 2020 17: 11
          I'll copy, pliz!
      4. 0
        28 August 2020 14: 56
        Scientific will do?
        Department of Matanalysis?
        https://ela.kpi.ua/handle/123456789/702
      5. 0
        3 September 2020 17: 00
        Have you heard about the opera in Odessa? Where the prima sings in Italian, and the caballero sings in surzhik ... They say that the people crawled out on all fours ... That would be to see with their own eyes!
    2. +6
      28 August 2020 13: 22
      Already! And not only calculus, but also many other things were also transferred to MOV.
      Since the 90s, there has been constant work on the creation of specialized dictionaries. In the late 90s, the project of a biological dictionary was shown to my father in Lvov. There the word "microbe" was translated as "dribnozvir". The project did not seem to be accepted. While...
      1. +2
        28 August 2020 15: 03
        There were a lot of Ukrainian textbooks and technical literature in Soviet times. In general, the Kiev school of technical cybernetics was one of the strongest in the USSR
        1. +1
          28 August 2020 18: 03
          But Zelensky Sr. claims that there is still not a single normal technical book on the move. The assistant professor is lying?
        2. +5
          29 August 2020 09: 15
          Quote: Avior
          ... In general, the Kiev school of technical cybernetics was one of the strongest in the USSR

          And what, books on technical cybernetics were published on "Mov"? Well, I don't remember that. The main books on my specialty were published in Kiev in Russian.
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      1. +1
        28 August 2020 15: 54
        Written a long time ago and without problems

        And where is the textbook on the Move?
        In Russian there is in English there, and a pitiful likeness of a surzhik laughing Straight some kind of Russian-like surzhik belay
        1. 0
          28 August 2020 16: 02
          In the links to the article, of course, where else
          1. +5
            28 August 2020 16: 08
            In the links to the article, of course, where else

            Is this a great Ukrainian?

            Yes, I can write textbooks for 404 laughing and not only in mathematics belay
            1. -4
              28 August 2020 16: 25
              I wrote, following the link.
              https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://library.vspu.edu.ua/repozitarij/repozit/texti/navchalni/Matanaliz.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjp6e--_b3rAhUCHHcKHeKpDhwQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw04MQp-hlUo5s80PPMp5B6b
              Enjoy
              1. +2
                28 August 2020 16: 56
                Enjoy


                Sergey Are you stupid or Svidomo?
                Here is your link


                What should I enjoy? Doesn't this opus seem familiar to you? .... Well, open the previous page

                Axiomatics of a plurality of arbitrary numbers. The power of the non-interruption of many numbers. Understand the upper i lower edges
                numerical plurality, їх i power.
                Literature. [3], v.1, p.11-26; [2], Part 1, pp. 44–82; Ilyin V.A.,
                Sadovnichy V.A., Sendov Bl. H. Mathematical analysis. M .:
                Nauka, 1979, pp. 35–60.




                Clear? This is an interlinear "brick" known to every university student in the USSR. And I'm not talking about the interlinear, I'm talking about "writing a textbook"
                1. -1
                  28 August 2020 18: 34
                  The person asked is calculus in Ukrainian - here is a textbook on calculus in Ukrainian. As far as I understand, he doubted that the level of development of the Ukrainian language is sufficient to cover such complex concepts. This is a clear illustration of the fact that the Ukrainian language is really enough for such purposes. It makes no difference what language the original textbook was in.
                  And what you want from me, I do not understand. You did not write it clearly.
                  Why do you want to see a textbook, the original language of which was Ukrainian? And for what purpose?
                  And how do you check which language the textbook was in the original?
                  What will this prove? And why do you demand this proof from me?
                  You can explain what you want to understand for the team.
                  .
                  Sergey Are you stupid or Svidomo?
                  Here is your link

                  My friend, I am not interested in this level of communication at all.
                  1. +1
                    31 August 2020 19: 11
                    My friend, I am not interested in this level of communication at all.

                    To be honest with me, too, the degree of your obstinacy makes any dispute meaningless.

                    Last try.

                    Take a textbook on matan (our Soviet) and translate interlinear in ANY LANGUAGE.
                    Even into a language in which there are no mathematical concepts at all (sets, limits, etc., etc.) The word-for-word translation will translate common words. Leave the rest unchanged - in the original language. THIS IS SO THIS TEXTBOOK IS DONE. Does the presence of such a pearl say something about the Ukrainian language?
                    1. 0
                      31 August 2020 22: 43
                      Campaign, you stubbornly undertook to argue about what you have no idea.
                      You are writing complete nonsense.
                      A significant part of the terminology in the natural sciences and mathematics in the Russian language is based on foreign origin. In your terminology, "interlinear". If you apply your approach to Russian textbooks, they are also, in your opinion, in many cases "interlinear"
                      ... on which there are no mathematical concepts at all (sets, limits, etc., etc.)

                      Do you even speak Ukrainian? It seems not, otherwise they would know that this example of yours is sheer nonsense.
                      The rest of your "arguments" are a bunch of empty words, not the slightest analysis, no evidence, no real examples, and the examples that you cited speak of your complete ignorance of the issue under discussion.
                      I'm not talking about your communication style.
                      In Ukrainian - a huge amount of natural science, technical and mathematical literature. Here in the thread I gave a link to the Department of Matanalysis of the Kiev Polytechnic, there is a repository of modern educational and scientific literature in the Ukrainian original, there are plenty of examples. But you don't want to see them.
                      I see no point in communicating.
                      hi
    4. +1
      28 August 2020 15: 48
      Let them try to write mathematical analysis in Ukrainian.

      Ruslan! It's five good
    5. +1
      29 August 2020 08: 54
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Let them try to write mathematical analysis in Ukrainian. wassat

      Who a hundred years ago could have believed that works on mathematics and physics would be written in Hebrew?
      1. 0
        29 August 2020 20: 55
        Aaron, hello, Trump or Biden? And as for the language, I will inform you that apparently the conceptual apparatus of Yiddish has grown to understanding ...
        1. -1
          29 August 2020 21: 00
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Hello Aaron Trump or Biden?

          Sorry Biden.
      2. 0
        31 August 2020 19: 14
        Who a hundred years ago could have believed that works on mathematics and physics would be written in Hebrew?

        Why not? If there are mathematicians and physicists for whom this language is native, if there are entire scientific schools of these scientists (do not worry about them 100 years ago and probably 500 laughing ) then sooner or later it will happen. But the 404 has no scientists for whom the movie is really native, let alone schools.
        And in 100 years there will be no 404 laughing
  3. +5
    28 August 2020 13: 02
    It's strange. When I wrote about my winter trip to the Kiev region in the winter and indicated there that they did not kill for the Russian language in Kiev, they did not fine, and they didn’t even look askance, then they nominated me and turned on the "vsevrete" mode.
    And now the author describes the same eggs, but with a drift "Russian is still in demand ..."
    1. +17
      28 August 2020 13: 18
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      When I wrote about my winter trip to the Kiev region in winter and indicated there that they do not kill for the Russian language in Kiev, they do not fine

      You contradict the author of the article - he just mentions that they are fined and very heavily. But those who place such ads on poles are difficult to catch by the hand, which is why advertising is in Russian, but not in print media.

      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      but with a drift "Russian is still in demand ..."

      He is in demand by those who know and remember him. But these are becoming less and less in Ukraine, and this is a fact, because the Russian language is rotten from kindergarten to high school. Therefore, as a result, the Russian language will be rejected by Svidomo throughout Ukraine, although these fools will never understand that this will lead to the degradation of their scientific potential, and especially in the segment of higher education.
      1. +6
        28 August 2020 13: 22
        I will not talk about science, I am far from it.
        But how does the author explain a number of TV programs in Russian? The same channel "Inter" broadcasts, if I am not mistaken, in Russian (the concert on May 9 was definitely in Russian). Who does not believe - welcome to YouTube. And you don't need to read on poles and fences.
        1. +3
          28 August 2020 13: 32
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          The same channel "Inter" broadcasts, if I am not mistaken, in Russian

          In fact, he conducts a smaller part of the programs in Russian, and other channels do not. This was also until 2014.
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Who does not believe - welcome to YouTube.

          Better go to Ukraine and watch the local media, or rather you will present a picture. Or talk to those who live there and are not hostile to Russia - I communicate with such people and I know what they are saying about what is happening there now.
          1. 0
            28 August 2020 13: 51
            Do you think I don't communicate with my father in Fastov?)) laughing
            Once a week for anyone! Moreover, he is more Russian-speaking. All my life I spoke Russian, although Ukrainian and Ukrainian. MOV knows.
            1. +4
              28 August 2020 15: 05
              Nobody knows Movu .. For she is a classical simulacrum, created artificially and therefore - incomprehensible to anyone except especially gifted ones. Here's Ukrainian - and really knew many .. But here's the one that I heard in my youth in the Poltava region and which, in general, after a month or two you can easily switch - it has very little in common with the new type of language ...
        2. -1
          28 August 2020 14: 32
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          The same channel "Inter" broadcasts, if I am not mistaken, in Russian (the concert on May 9 was definitely in Russian).

          We have many channels in the Ukrainian language, and not only in Ukrainian. Occasionally I watched "Inter" then Savik Shuster and Evgen Kiselev worked, I was never delighted with them. After 2014, it became disgusting to watch. Now, occasionally, just for fun, I look through many Russian-language channels, and there is not much to stop at. Now, if I'm not mistaken, "Friday" comes from "Inter", and now it is a Russian channel, it was possible to watch it even when it was Ukrainian.
      2. +7
        28 August 2020 13: 34
        Quote: ccsr
        although these fools will never understand that this will lead to the degradation of their scientific potential,

        And, then, step by step - the degradation of educational potential, cultural, peaceful, friendly, human ...
    2. +4
      28 August 2020 14: 18
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      the author describes the same eggs, but with a drift "Russian is still in demand ...

      Demand at the household level, "vlada" maydaunovskaya, makes every possible and impossible, including illegal, efforts to accelerate the violent Ukrainization.
  4. +9
    28 August 2020 13: 08
    I always considered Ukrmova as an illiterate rural dialect. In general, there are no particular rules - as I hear, I write. Very handy for Selyuk
    1. +3
      28 August 2020 14: 46
      Quote: Alexy
      I always considered Ukrmova as an illiterate rural dialect.

      Then it was still a normal language, until Grushevsky and his comrades from the Austro-Hungarian Empire began to disfigure it under the leadership of Comrade. Kaganovich Leizer Moiseevich, at the direction of V. I. Lenin. Only Stalin stopped the mockery of the people. But the guys gave up to their heart's content, even the teacher of Hrushevsky, Nechuy-Levitsy Ivan Semyonovich, feared that the Ukrainian would not be "fouled" by immigrants from Galicia with their peculiar Western dialect. For this he criticized Mikhail Hrushevsky, but who wanted to listen to the old scientist, who died of hunger in Kiev, when he was still the UPR.
  5. +7
    28 August 2020 13: 15
    Yes, nothing but lies from Svidomites is worth waiting for! The allegedly infringed Ukrainian language under the Soviets!
    I spent three weeks in Kiev in the 80s. All signs are in Ukrainian. Metro announcements in Ukrainian. Newspapers in Ukrainian. TV channels in Ukrainian. And at the same time, I have never (!) Heard anyone speak Ukrainian!
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 15: 07
      And so it was. Under the USSR, Ukrainian was artificially supported.
      One of the 2 TV channels was in Ukrainian.
      It was easier to buy science fiction or adventure in Ukrainian than in Russian.
      I read Robinson Crusoe and the Musketeers in Ukrainian for the first time.
  6. +2
    28 August 2020 13: 19
    But interesting. Do these svidomye think in Ukrainian? I doubt it. What do they think. They just work it out.
    1. 0
      28 August 2020 14: 49
      Quote: 210ox
      Do these svidomye think in Ukrainian? I doubt it.

      One could even doubt, if there was something to doubt, and if there is nothing under the hair, then doubts disappear.
  7. +4
    28 August 2020 13: 30
    Awesome job ...
    Colleagues, what is the Ukrainian word for “awesome”?
    1. +2
      28 August 2020 13: 41
      Quote: Clear
      Colleagues, what is the Ukrainian word for “awesome”?


      An interesting question ....... in the "translator" - "awesome", but it sounds much better in Latin; "horribilis".
    2. -1
      28 August 2020 13: 46
      I think - awesome))))
    3. +1
      28 August 2020 13: 47
      Fine. It's synonymous with cool, cool, and so on.
      1. +2
        28 August 2020 15: 07
        Fine - as I understand it, classical Polonism .. But how will it be in Ukrainian?
        1. +2
          28 August 2020 16: 11
          And so it will be. Borrowed word.
          Do not bother you that the usual for all of us pullover come from english?
      2. +3
        28 August 2020 15: 37
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Fine. It's synonymous with cool, cool, and so on.


        Faina Yukraina.

        "Maybe that will be Nazar? Ni, so hai id Gavrilo ..."

    4. 0
      28 August 2020 14: 52
      Quote: Clear
      Colleagues, what is the Ukrainian word for “awesome”?

      Although this word is not in the language but in slang, but it is used by Russians, then probably the synonym will be the word "Garneau" or "garnenko" or "hefty garno". True, they will now attack me that I am distorting.
      1. -1
        28 August 2020 16: 12
        Garneau, this good... Well, your derivatives are good, very good.
        1. +1
          28 August 2020 16: 31
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Well, your derivatives are good, very good.

          Well, then the synonym will fit awesome very well.
          1. +2
            28 August 2020 19: 35
            Another synonym is awesome, but the VO rules forbid it smile
      2. +2
        28 August 2020 16: 43
        This is a slang word based on Latin.
        In Ukrainian it will sound the same with the same Latin root as in Russian.
    5. 0
      28 August 2020 16: 34
      And in Russian, how will this word be? smile
      1. +1
        28 August 2020 19: 17
        Quote: Avior
        And in Russian, how will this word be?

        This is no longer a word, but the sentence "Let's better keep silent, and so we know everything."
    6. +1
      29 August 2020 17: 45
      In Ukrainian it will be "nice" or "garny" and how will this word be in Russian, after all, this word is not gelizm, if I am not mistaken.
  8. 0
    28 August 2020 13: 48
    In medical terms, schizophrenia ...

    ha, actually chose that, democracy!
    1. +2
      28 August 2020 19: 22
      Quote: rocket757
      they themselves actually chose, democracy!

      In my opinion, democracy differs from schizophrenia only in the steps of the seated. The one who sits at the top is a democrat, and whoever sits below is a schizophrenic. Climbed one step higher, moved from "ward number 6" to the regional duma.
      1. -1
        28 August 2020 19: 27
        The history of events is not easy anyway, so it tends to get worse, unfortunately.
  9. 0
    28 August 2020 13: 56
    And there are no pictures! Not displayed.
    We are losing the fight, the agents of ukrov have already noted here))))

    But in fact, in our village, half of them are already chatting on the street in non-Russian, and all the announcements are only on it, the great one.
    Not in Tajik, Azeri, or Turkmen.
    And thank God....
  10. +12
    28 August 2020 14: 09
    I was in Kiev last year (I flew from London there and returned). Some kind of surrealism. 90% of people speak Russian, while all announcements, boards and announcements at the station are in Ukrainian or English, not a single Russian signboard .. On the plane, the flight attendants answered my questions in Russian in Ukrainian, while talking to each other in Russian. In short, the roof of the Ukrainians went completely)))
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 15: 11
      It was also under the Union.
      Ukrainian was supported artificially.
  11. +3
    28 August 2020 14: 12
    The triumph of our politics and for our money
  12. +2
    28 August 2020 14: 31
    And all because, there is no, and historically there has never been such a people as a Ukrainian, there were Chukchi, but there were no Ukrainians)))
  13. +6
    28 August 2020 14: 54
    Russians have become cowards in the end. They are afraid to admit that on the outskirts, in Belarus and the Baltic states, there is a tough assimilation of the RUSSIAN population.
    We are not Russian-speaking here, but RUSSIAN, the same RUSSIAN as you are in Moscow or Rostov. It is us, your RUSSIAN relatives, brothers and sisters, who will be assimilated into the farm culture and primitive village mentality, so that we cease to associate ourselves with a part of a strong people who have reached the heights of space and culture, and become primitive mudflowers, myakhataskrayniks.
    1. +4
      28 August 2020 15: 09
      And who is stopping you from resisting? Here in Donbass and Crimea - people decided not to tolerate this. And - they do not tolerate .. Nobody will do anything for you. Together with you - yes, but not instead of you ..
      1. +5
        28 August 2020 15: 41
        There is resistance, but against the Nazi occupation machine, when even for a post on the network they can shove into the basement, you will not resist strongly without support. And when the ambassadors and officials of the Russian Federation declare to the outright genocide of the Russians that this is not the business of the Russian Federation, but the internal business of the Nazi regimes, then the hope for the Russian Federation and the will to resist are lost.
        None of the officials and the media of the Russian Federation calls us RUSSIAN, only some Russian-speaking, not related to Russians, why?
        1. 0
          28 August 2020 16: 50
          Have you ever heard that the Russian government in the field of foreign policy somehow singled out Russians?
          Well, there the Russian card, for example, was introduced, like the Poles, special rules for obtaining citizenship or a residence permit or something else?
          1. +3
            28 August 2020 18: 35
            Yes, we will soon have to introduce a Russian map for Russians inside Russia too .. Judging by the number of guests in the country from the sunny south ..
          2. +2
            28 August 2020 18: 56
            I've heard about the Russian map for 20 years, but only hear ...
        2. 0
          29 August 2020 15: 05
          Quote: Andrey Grad
          None of the officials and the media of the Russian Federation calls us RUSSIAN, only some Russian-speaking, not related to Russians, why?

          Because Russia is ruled not by Russians, but by Russian speakers. There is, of course, the GDP, but it is purely on display. And around him are all the Zelenskiy-Groismans, and the Shoigu-Kadyrovs.
    2. 0
      28 August 2020 19: 58
      Quote: Andrey Grad
      It is us, your RUSSIAN relatives, brothers and sisters, who are assimilated into the farm culture and the primitive village mentality,

      They try to assimilate, but no more. In all these small and not quite small countries, the people lived in their communities, and they still live. State languages ​​are our own, but we all communicate with our brothers, and do not take them off, go to visit each other, bring up our children, at home and among ourselves we speak Russian. And the same Ukrainians are also included in our communities and also speak Russian. Everything goes on here as before.
      I have already written that a person must understand once and for all who he will be with, with us or with them. If with us, then we must observe our language, our faith, our customs, culture. When I arrived in Tallinn at the end of the 60s, my friend was from him, and his great-grandfather came from St. Petersburg in the 80s of the 19th century, his grandfather worked at Rusobalt, his father was already at the renamed Baltic Shipyard, but for 100 years they have been Russians, they have remained without losing their identity. And whoever wanted to join them, they became Russian Estonians, or Estonian Russians.
  14. 0
    28 August 2020 15: 00
    If a bird quacks, then it is called a duck. Now the south-west of Russia is under the occupation of the United States, therefore, any abomination is invented, such as the prohibition of communication in the native language. This is a spit in our direction, and it should be a matter of honor for Russia to answer this hard in the future, no matter how much time has passed!
  15. -3
    28 August 2020 15: 16
    Never mind, the Germans also raged on our land, how it all ended, everyone knows.
  16. +2
    28 August 2020 15: 17
    I read the reviews.
    Those who argue about the inferiority of the Ukrainian language obviously have no idea about it.
    In fact, as a literary Ukrainian is the same as Russian.
    And as a technical, scientific, there is not the slightest problem.
    I invite everyone to read and discuss the first scientific article I came across.
    https://ela.kpi.ua/handle/123456789/18090
    ... Methodology for storing the theory of extreme meanings for the analysis of tributes
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 16: 03
      Do not try to divert from the essence of the problem, the question is not in the language, the question is in dividing the large RUSSIAN people into small ones, using local languages.
      The smaller the people, the less opportunities they have to compete in the world system.
      1. -1
        28 August 2020 16: 38
        Controversial thesis.
        Jews, for example, are much less numerous than Hindus. It doesn't hurt them to compete.
        But in general, there is no doubt that Russian is one of the 7 official languages ​​of the UN.
        But this does not prevent other languages ​​from existing.
      2. 0
        3 September 2020 13: 01
        Absolutely right. that is why there is such a negative attitude towards the Ukrainian language as a tool for dividing the Russian people and Russian culture.
    2. +2
      30 August 2020 09: 30
      Those who argue about the inferiority of the Ukrainian language obviously have no idea about it

      A language becomes a full-fledged language when all 100% of the population speaks, thinks, writes in it, and when each locality has its own version of a surzhik, this means that the language is defective, which is why you are not showing your article in a scientific way, you can just as well, an article on the language of the Klingons, or elves to write. But everyone doesn’t use this language.
      But Ukrainians already have a full-fledged language, this is Russian, the Russian Federation does not prohibit the use of Russian, it belongs to those people who speak and think in it. Mova is the dialects of the village, and in Ukrainian cities they use the language of culture, technology and science - Russian.
      1. -1
        30 August 2020 12: 35
        Give a link to a similar article in the language of elves, it will be interesting to read.
        There is a Ukrainian literary language formed in the 18th century on the basis of the Ukrainian colloquial language, which completely fulfills all the functions of a literary language no worse than Russian.
        If you do not know him, this does not mean that he is not complete.
  17. +1
    28 August 2020 15: 53
    Laughing sadly: after the "medical translations" I went up and googled - everything is all right there, although there are a lot of non-Russian words. And why is it "sad" - it turns out (from the thematic forums) to continue medical studies in Polish and Czech universities for a Russian-speaking student is much more difficult than for a Ukrainian-speaking one. Such is the reality.
  18. +4
    28 August 2020 17: 09
    When in my childhood, they joked and did (calculations) how many nuclear missiles are needed to destroy this or that country. How many tanks are needed to capture. So, joke conversations. And then we learned that the country should cease to exist. A bunch of scum and a crazy crowd is enough. There is a video on YouTube of a former military officer who served in ballistic missile silos for 20 years. Now there is a museum. He walks and talks about the types of rockets. Leads excursions to the bunker. I was struck by his phrase. He told how the Americans watched the dismantling of missiles and pouring concrete into the mines. "When the last 2 missiles were dismantled, their attitude towards me changed, and I felt like a second-class man." Unfortunately, not everyone understands this. But when they understand, they will understand exactly. It will be too late to change something.
  19. +1
    29 August 2020 06: 53
    Sick people who have fallen under the influence of the ideological NLP of the Ukrainian media, scoundrels, officials, and villagers speak Ukrainian.
  20. -3
    29 August 2020 07: 56
    What do we see in the end? If the Russian language was in reality “not in demand” by Ukrainians and “alien” to them, then now, more than five years after the start of its massive persecution and persecution, it would most likely disappear from circulation.


    Or maybe there is no war, author? It is not the absence of war that can explain the existing Nikolaev art Russian dramatic theater?
    https://hochu-bilet.com/places/nikolaevskij_russkij_teatr


    Doesn't this explain the maintenance of the house-museum of the RUSSIAN writer Bulgakov in Kiev in excellent condition?

    PS.
    Reading on poles and on fences is the last thing.
  21. +3
    29 August 2020 08: 27
    "After all, he himself does not speak this damned language!" (Turbin about the hetman of Ukraine. M. Bulgakov "Days of the Turbins")
  22. 0
    29 August 2020 08: 48
    I read the Decameron in Ukrainian in the ninth grade two times. Both times he whinnied until he had cramps in his side. Although all subjects except Russian and English were taught in Ukrmov.
  23. +2
    29 August 2020 09: 38
    The struggle with the language takes 2-3 generations. It is impossible to “eradicate” the familiar and native language in 5 years.

    Nevertheless, in 50 years (if suddenly nothing changes, purely in theory), most of the population will know only the state language at the level of at least everyday literacy.
  24. 0
    29 August 2020 18: 00
    All these signs are mainly designed for people born in the USSR, or a little after its collapse. I personally saw brigades of handymen from the republics of the former USSR, including Ukraine, where the orders of the customer, the foreman, were transferred to the workers by the senior, who played the role of the interpreter-foreman. It will take a little more time and signs (announcements) in Russian, in the Russophobic countries of the former USSR, we Young people often no longer know Russian, they treat Russians aggressively, or, at best, indifferently, as if in front of them are not Russians, but Mexicans, with whom they have nothing to do. So today only big dreamers can talk about fraternal peoples in the republics of the former USSR.
  25. +2
    29 August 2020 20: 48
    how we are convinced otherwise. Kiev, which speaks to its residents in the language of private advertisements and leaflets, is completely Russian-speaking.
    ===
    it will take some time, and they will reach the announcements. have already taken place in the Baltic States, where the fight against the Russian language at the state levels.
  26. -5
    29 August 2020 21: 48
    Tike meni came up with a thought, why should the citizens of Ukraine be busy with a servile at home ?! All qi loaders, cashiers-sellers, locksmiths, malaria, rooms for them - all the words are written in movi, what is the potential of the lawyers?
  27. 0
    30 August 2020 11: 24
    Ukraine is "the Russia we have lost". Kiev is the center of Russian nationalism.
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  29. +1
    31 August 2020 15: 04
    Excuse me, but I do not see any reason to "tamp" the result of the work on the derossification of the country for 5 years. This is a long game. And it is not designed for those who are now over 25 years old, and even less for pensioners. And for future generations. And if 5 years ago it was possible to live completely calmly in Kiev without knowing the language, now, according to the same words of the author, it is impossible to do this. You can’t read any signs or advertisements.
  30. 0
    24 September 2020 23: 05
    Oh Alexander, Kiev is not central Ukraine, but its northern part. The main question is not that these scribbles are printed in Russian, this is a drop in the ocean. The main thing is that this language is not studied at such a level as physics, chemistry, mathematics. It can be in the form of an optional version, once every two weeks or something like that, but if the parents want, the Nazis will not mind and there is a teacher. Of course, young people can also speak, but I’m sure not to write correctly, and it’s not an indicator that Galicia puts plates and watches programs from the Russian Federation, not out of love, but because local TV is digital, encrypted and not free of charge, but for a fee. He put the plate on and all the things. Well, it's not a Hungarian TV to burn out, there you won't understand what it is about without a hundred grams, but you will take more, in general firewood, some smereki (conifers - Christmas trees))))))))) in Ukraine in different languages ​​and in Russian, including, if a stubborn patriot does not come across on your way (like that ram on the bridge) .In state institutions, ardent patriots talk only in mov (Ukrainian), the rest are quickly rebuilt - some in Russian, who is on surzhik, who is obscene.))) The main thing is that the chain is broken: family-kindergarten-school-university. In the family as much as you like, on the street too, but otherwise Zh ......., you know)) )

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