The case of doctors. US Imposes Sanctions Against Sputnik V Vaccine Developers

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"Reasonable reasons"


Politics and coronavirus infection have long been living together. The real apotheosis of this was news from the USA: On August 26, the country's Department of Commerce announced sanctions for several Russian scientific institutions involved in the development and testing of a vaccine against COVID-19.

The black list includes FSUE "State Research Institute of Organic Chemistry and Technology" (GosNIIOKhT), which, among other things, deals with technologies for the destruction of chemical weapons... In Soviet times, the enterprise was indeed engaged in the development of chemical weapons, but over time, all projects were closed. This did not prevent the UK in 2018 from unofficially pointing to this research institute as the developer and manufacturer of the notorious Novichok poison. It was then about the research division of the institute in Shikhany, Saratov region. However, even after such grave accusations, sanctions from the US and the European Union did not fall on GosNIIOKhT.



Among the specialized military institutions under sanctions were the 33rd and 48th Central Research and Testing Institutes of the Russian Ministry of Defense. The 48th TsNIII has three branches on the black list: in Sergiev Posad, Yekaterinburg and the Kirov region.

The official commentary by the main originator of the sanctions, the United States Department of Commerce, states:

“There are reasonable grounds to believe that the 33rd Central Research Institute is an object of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation associated with the Russian chemical program and the chemical weapons test site, as well as that GosNIIOKhT is associated with the Russian chemical weapons program ... There are also reasonable grounds to believe that the 48th Central Research Institute is connected with the Russian biological weapons program. "



The lead developer of the Sputnik V vaccine is the National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after Honorary Academician NF Gamaleya. The Americans have not yet imposed sanctions against him. At the same time, the closest contacts at the NF Gamaleya Center during the development of the vaccine were with the 48th Central Research Institute. In particular, on the site dedicated to the vaccine, the head of the military institute, Doctor of Biological Sciences, Candidate of Medical Sciences, Professor, Colonel Sergei Vladimirovich Borisevich is mentioned among the developers. It was in the 48th Central Research Institute in the summer that the phase of clinical trials of the vaccine on 50 military volunteers (among them 5 women) took place. Previously, preclinical studies on monkeys and hamsters were carried out at the same testing site of the institute. At the same time, employees were directly involved in the development of a new vaccine. The institute has many years of experience in combating infections such as anthrax, plague, tularemia, Q fever, brucellosis and others. There is no open information about how the 33rd Central Research Institute and GosNIIOKhT were involved in the development of the world's first vaccine against COVID-19. However, the US decided to punish them.

What do the sanctions mean for these institutions? Basically, institutions will face a ban on the export, re-export and import of goods and resources. The sanctions can really damage the civilian subordinate of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia to the Research Institute of Organic Chemistry and Technology: after all, a huge segment of work is carried out with the involvement of imported reagents and technology. But with regard to the military Central Research Institute, the sanctions look at least strange. If there are imported components in the circulation of these units of the Ministry of Defense, then in minimal volumes. And these institutes are engaged in the export of technologies and finished products in minimal volumes. For example, in the 48th Central Research Institute, in addition to technologies for protection against biological weapons, they develop and produce medical immunobiological drugs for the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of especially dangerous infections. The main consumers within the country are agriculture, industry and medicine.

Pharmacists from the high road


The unfriendly move of the US Department of Commerce cannot be explained otherwise than by political reasons. At the same time, the logic of the developers of this legislative act is not completely clear, in which, by the way, another 30 Chinese pharmaceutical companies appear. If the goal was to limit the possibilities for the production and export (which is important) of vaccines, then it would be much more expedient to blacklist the Zelenograd pharmaceutical plant "Binnopharm". It is part of AFK Sistema and is now launching the production of the world's first vaccine against coronavirus. But for some reason, sanctions were imposed on the developers of the drug and the alleged partners. The feeling is that the Americans did not fully understand the situation, and the "patriotic" urges demanded to clear the field for their own pharmacists.

Now all over the world there will be an extremely unpleasant association on Sputnik V: they say that the vaccine developers have got their hands dirty with biological and chemical weapons. Despite the fact that this is not true, many countries will now think a hundred times before buying a domestic drug for coronavirus. The tolerant pacifist public will not at all appreciate such concern for their own people. It is much calmer to wait until the end of the development of similar products from the United States and purchase at inflated prices.

In general, the logical schemes of the initiators of the sanction are quite clear and transparent. Note that the restrictions followed after Russia announced a high demand for the vaccine among a number of countries. Americans will fight for a multi-billion dollar share of the global pharmaceutical market by all means possible. It is quite possible that Russia will face sanctions against the Novosibirsk center "Vector", the mentioned plant "Binnopharm", as well as a stream of provocative statements about the fate of the first vaccinated.


Source: sputnikvaccine.com

However, the blacklists may conceal a different sense of the American panic. No one in the countries of developed capitalism fully believed that in "backward" Russia there was even a fundamental possibility of such a prompt creation of an anti-coronavirus vaccine. And when biotechnologists managed to carry out the most difficult introduction of the COVID-19 protein gene into the adenoviral vector and announce this to the whole world, many viewers were taken aback. If in this stories Also military research institutes participated, then one can imagine what level of development of biotechnology the Russian Defense Ministry has. Something like this, I think, worked the logic of the initiators of the sanctions. Any potential possibility of the most complex manipulations with human genes and viruses is perceived in the United States as an application for the development of weapons of mass destruction. Once you have managed to create a vaccine, you will create a combat virus (bacillus), so get sanctions. Surprisingly, why did no one pay attention to the military Central Research Institute before? After all, the 48th institute has been engaged in no less complex modeling for several decades now - vaccines against Ebola and other deadly diseases. In addition, the document of the US Department of Commerce does not contain a single fact confirming the development of weapons of mass destruction by Russia. At the same time, the Americans themselves, unlike Russia, have not completely got rid of their chemical arsenal - they are diligently delaying this process.


In this regard, several conclusions suggest themselves. First of all, there is no longer any talk about any international scientific cooperation in the fight against COVID-19. If the doctors worked together, it was only at first: as soon as the race for the vaccine began, everyone stood for themselves. The economic and political bonuses in case of success are too great, and the US sanctions are proof of this. The level of domestic pharmaceuticals turned out to be quite competitive, since it was possible to annoy the Americans with a new vaccine. This is the second consequence of the sanctions. Finally, such a scandal should provoke a response from Russia. Unfortunately, the management does not have the opportunity to answer symmetrically, but there are many biological laboratories around the country, run by specialists from the United States. According to locals, the work at the facilities is quite peaceful, but what prevents them from being declared developers of weapons of mass destruction? The Ministry of Trade of our overseas opponent could do the same.
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  1. +6
    28 August 2020 05: 37
    The toad crushed and the market is protected.
    1. +10
      28 August 2020 06: 01
      Pharmacists from the high road
      And sanctions, sanctions! Even against those who were treated with this vaccine ... Independence swam across the ocean.
      1. 0
        28 August 2020 07: 18
        US Imposes Sanctions Against Sputnik V Vaccine Developers
        The lead developer of the Sputnik V vaccine is the National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after Honorary Academician NF Gamaleya. Americans so far did not enter sanctions against him.
        There is no open information about how the 33rd Central Research Institute and GosNIIOKhT were involved in the development of the world's first vaccine against COVID-19. Nevertheless, The USA decided to punish them.

        That is, the author is not even shy about pulling an owl onto the globe. When proposing hypotheses, it would still be worth relying on empirical data, and not sticking to some version solely because it is the most pleasant.
        1. +5
          28 August 2020 08: 43
          Quote: military_cat
          That is, the author is not even shy about the fact that he pulls on an owl on the globe. When putting forward hypotheses, it would still be worth relying on empirical data,

          What is the purpose of your gossip?

          From the article:
          :Exactly at the 48th Central Research Institute in the summer, a phase of clinical trials of the vaccine was carried out on 50 military volunteers (among them there were 5 women). Previously, preclinical studies on monkeys and hamsters were carried out at the same testing site of the institute.
          Its director is in vaccine sponsors.

          And the 48th Central Research Institute -under sanctions.
          1. -3
            28 August 2020 11: 14
            US Imposes Vaccine Sanctions ...

            The good news is that there are no sanctions against the main banker and ministers in charge of the industrial sectors of the economy, because they work for us and our bright future. sad .
            1. +4
              28 August 2020 11: 21
              ..there are no sanctions against the main banker and ministers responsible for the industrial sectors of the economy ..

              So what is ordered, then they regularly and perform ..
              For what to punish ...?
      2. 0
        28 August 2020 09: 27
        The diagnosis is the same - the names are different.
      3. ANB
        +1
        28 August 2020 23: 43
        ... Even against those who were treated with this vaccine.

        I fully share your opinion.
        However, vaccines are not cured. A vaccine is a vaccine. Doesn't help during illness. They are treated with serum, but they did not make it from covid19. So so far, only antiviral therapy and antibiotics for bacterial complications.
        But vaccination helps stop the epidemic by developing disease-free immunity.
    2. +6
      28 August 2020 06: 02
      Quote: Pessimist22
      the sales market is protected.

      Yes, they will soon CLEAR ...
      1. +2
        28 August 2020 07: 09
        Quote: svp67
        Yes, they CLEAR soon.

        Exactly ! They clean the meadow for themselves.
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    3. +1
      28 August 2020 07: 08
      Quote: Pessimist22
      The toad crushed and the market is protected.

      Even worse - "bandits from the high road, and I myself will not talk and will not let others.
      1. +9
        28 August 2020 08: 18
        Or maybe it’s enough to constantly cry like “Why are we, we’re not to blame!” -After receiving another batch of US sanctions? Maybe it's enough to constantly make excuses and start talking openly about American shady dealings from the international tribunes? For example, in this case, some Russian biologists openly accuse the United States of creating "covid", even CNN urged to fight such accusations, why should not Russia officially recognize the artificial development of covid with the participation of the United States in this, but the Kremlin instead for some reason called on the contrary, to fight the fabrications about the artificial origin of the virus, such as it is natural, period. There is a feeling that in the Kremlin it’s just cramps in the stomach, it’s even easy to be afraid to touch the US conceit, inflated from impunity, simply to incredible proportions.
        1. +1
          28 August 2020 09: 37
          Quote: Snail N9
          There is a feeling that in the Kremlin it’s just cramps in the stomach, it’s even easy to be afraid to touch the US conceit, inflated from impunity, simply to incredible proportions.

          I wonder what Russia's debt to various IMFs and other foreign banks?
          1. +3
            28 August 2020 09: 49
            This is an interesting question. External debts are government and there are corporate. The public debt of Russia is relatively small, but the corporate external debt is astronomical. The trick is that corporate debt, in the event of bankruptcy of those who have such an external debt, is automatically hung on the state, as on the person who is the guarantor and gave permission to the debtor for foreign trade activities.
            1. +2
              28 August 2020 10: 42
              Quote: Snail N9
              but the corporate external debt is astronomical. The catch is that corporate debt, in the event of bankruptcy of those who have such external debt, is automatically hung on the state

              And after that the Kremlin will to colic in the stomach, to be afraid even easily touch the self-conceit of the USA Great debt from any great country can make Poland.
            2. 0
              28 August 2020 12: 06
              Quote: Snail N9
              but the corporate external debt is astronomical.

              How did you define it? You compare with corporate debt in other countries.
              Quote: Snail N9
              The catch is that corporate debt, in the event of bankruptcy of those who have such an external debt, is automatically hung on the state,

              What are you? Can you give an example? Do you seriously think that in case of bankruptcy of a corporation its debt will be returned by the state? only if the state acquires this corporation.
              Quote: Snail N9
              as a person who is a guarantor and who has given permission to the debtor for foreign trade activities.

              The guarantor of what? Do not confuse a permit for foreign trade with credit guarantees.
            3. ANB
              0
              28 August 2020 23: 46
              ... The trick is that corporate debt, in the event of bankruptcy of those who have such an external debt, is automatically hung on the state, as on the person who is the guarantor and gave permission to the debtor for foreign trade activities.

              Only if the state was the surety. And if not, then everyone is free.
        2. +3
          28 August 2020 09: 38
          and why? because if the Elves open their mouths wider, their children from Harvard will be trampled and foreign elven castles and hacienda with vineyards will begin to squeeze. Here is the answer to the question why the Foreign Ministry is silent and only shows concern.
          1. 0
            28 August 2020 12: 12
            Quote: Klingon
            and why? because if the Elves open their mouths wider, their children from Harvard will be trampled

            Do you hear? Living in your own universe? What are the names of those high-ranking officials from whom the kids at Harvard study? And for one thing, tell me why their kids have not been kicked out of Harvard, their accounts have not been arrested, their houses have not been taken away, for the annexation of Crimea, support for Assad, support for the LDNR. Otherwise, they impose sanctions for the Skripals and interference in the elections, but the houses will not be taken away and the accounts will not be arrested. Can you at least somehow try to turn on your brain? Maybe because there are no bills and houses at the top? Such as you are only capable of carrying nonsense.
            1. +4
              28 August 2020 14: 42
              "Maybe because the bills and houses at the top are not there?"
              Hmmm ...

              Just a quote from The Moskow Post on August 24 this year. Just about one "modest" civil servant. One of many.

              "In 2019, according to the official income statement, Igor Shuvalov received 179 million rubles. But in 2018, Mr. Shuvalov's income was only 71 million rubles. The former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government explains his new wealth by the sale of some real estate larger than 2 thousand square meters. It has been known for a long time that Mr. Shuvalov does not like to waste time on trifles. It has also been known for a long time that he and his wife, Olga Shuvalova, own kilometers of living space. And not only in "unwashed" Russia The Shuvalovs have a castle in Austria, a mansion in Britain, as well as real estate in the United Arab Emirates.

              It turns out, rowing under yourself, regardless of etiquette? Let us recall that Mr. Shuvalov has been engaged in this "rowing" for over 10 years. Not long ago, he finally left the White House. And he ended up in the leadership of the state corporation VEB.RF, which seems to be promoting the most important national projects. And in fact?
              It seems that a fabulous animal, about which so many Russian folk epics have been composed, was allowed into the "vegetable garden" of "VEB.RF". And isn't that why Uncle Shu's income soared sharply in just a year? "
              Next.
              "... in 2019, Shuvalov had 3 apartments in Russia of 108,9, 73,8 and 115,8 sq. m. in size. The former Deputy Prime Minister still owns 6/20 shares in an apartment with an area of ​​170,6 sq. m. m. In the use of Mr. Shuvalov in Russia and a residential building with an area - scary to say what size - but still indicate - more than 4170 sq. m, as well as a castle and an apartment in Austria and Great Britain with an area of ​​1479,8 and 483 sq. m. m.

              Shuvalov's two imperfect children have a residential building and an apartment in Russia (4174,1 and 107,6 square meters), and one of these happy children already owns a Mercedes GLE Coupe 350 D 4MATIC for 10 million lemons.

              Olga Shuvalova, the wife of the former Deputy Prime Minister, has an annual income of 12 million rubles. The spouses share 4 cars: Jaguar XJ8 4.2 Executive, VAZ 2101, ZIL 41047 and GAZ 21, as well as a building in Austria with an area of ​​more than 1470 sq. m and a UK apartment of 483 sq. m. "

              I think it is worth adding to the list a private plane, on which Madame Shuvalova took her dogs to the exhibition and which, after the scandal, was urgently re-registered to a controlled bank, which did not cease to be the property of the raking family.

              Etc...

              On my own I will add: not a fabulous animal, as the author called Shuvalov and others like him, further mentioned in the article, but an animal that is unbearably vulgar, boorish in its manifestations, in its own vileness in relation to the entire population of the country, which is robbed - robbed, without producing nothing but his essence, aptly defined by the poet as "you are the horror of the world, the shame of nature, you rebuke God on earth."
              Protect them, CSKA, defend ... Protect with all the strength of your soul, with all the possibilities of your eloquence.
              Only when they need to rob you and trample you casually will nothing count. They will come, trample and not even notice.
              1. +1
                28 August 2020 22: 21
                Quote: depressant
                Just a quote from The Moskow Post

                Depressant, hello. hi I hope you double-checked the reprinted this time? Otherwise, it will turn out, in fact, as with Putin's brother-in-law (brother, uncle, nephew - I don't remember) in July ...
                1. +3
                  28 August 2020 22: 49
                  Colleague Motorist, at the very beginning I gave a link to the resource. As for Shuvalov's earlier activities, he is known for overseeing the construction on the Russian island for the summit of the Asia-Pacific region. I remember how the bridge collapsed, how there were disagreements with the oceanarium - there was a lot of things. Colleagues from the Far East here, at VO, told me. By now, Shuvalov has grown into a whole crowd of hangers-on, who have formed his own corruption clan. But about Shuvalov - this is so, by the way, not on the topic of the article, but simply in response to a doubting colleague. And ... don't you remember the scandal with the dogs and the airplane?))) There was a lot of indignant noise in the press, awkward official answers were given, on the forums there was a bubbling of substances)))
                  1. +1
                    28 August 2020 23: 06
                    Quote: depressant
                    I gave a link to the resource at the very beginning

                    Yes, that was my advice, welcome. But I only believe in facts. Now I am looking at the prices for Mercedes - until I find more than 8 million (by the way, it is not so expensive for a Deputy Prime Minister). Also, by the way, I didn’t even wonder whether there was a “boy” (ie, the aforementioned car). Time is needed, but you just provided a link. Easy for you ...
                  2. +1
                    28 August 2020 23: 43
                    Quote: depressant
                    robs without producing anything but his essence

                    I also found it on VEB.RF - Information about labor activity:
                    1984-1985 - laboratory assistant at the Research Institute "Ecos".
                    1985-1987 - Service in the ranks of the Soviet Army.
                    1993 - Attaché of the Legal Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation.
                    1993-1995 - Senior Legal Adviser of AOZT ALM Consulting, since 1995 - Director of the ALM Law Office.
                    1997 - Head of the Department of the State Register of Federal Property of the State Committee of the Russian Federation for State Property Management.
                    1998 - Deputy Minister of State Property of the Russian Federation.
                    1998-2000 - Chairman of the Russian Federal Property Fund.
                    2000-2003 - Chief of Staff of the Government of the Russian Federation - Minister of the Russian Federation.
                    2003 - Aide to the President of the Russian Federation.
                    2003-2004 - Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation.
                    2004 - Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation.
                    Since 2005, he is also a Russian Sherpa in the GXNUMX.
                    Since 2008 - First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation.
                    On May 24, 2018, he was appointed Chairman of Vnesheconombank.
                    Since December 9, 2018 - Chairman of VEB.RF.

                    Why are you surprised by his apartments and Mercedes? In your opinion, he did not do anything, but only robbed? I beg of you!
            2. +3
              29 August 2020 00: 47
              do you hear! dude! and you and I are you? what? tell me why Mr. Dimon is so interested in Tuscan wine? AND ? There are kids at Harvard or Oxford for sure. I will not say who exactly, but there is. and you, (urrryayayaya !!!), congratulate the Elves on the brave plundering of the country and the "crushing" of the people. And you and Them at the same time ??? wassat
            3. 0
              30 August 2020 16: 30
              What are the names of those high-ranking officials from whom the kids at Harvard study?

              You were probably frozen in hibernation and did not know that the nouveau riche of the Russian Federation are massively buying up clubs, yachts and castles, and the kids are taught in Cambridge?
              Well, okay, if singers or TV stars buy real estate, they are free people, like Malysheva who bought a couple of apartments in a skyscraper in New York and a villa for 11 lem. But high-ranking officials and even relatives of generals are buying up real estate in a warm climate, not far from the sea.

              The 31-year-old daughter of Russian State Duma deputy from Tatarstan Rinat Khairov Elsina bought a mansion 35-40 km from central London for £ 22 million,


              I will add about the former Deputy Prime Minister Shuvalov

        3. +3
          28 August 2020 15: 16
          In general, Putin's Tolstoyism will not lead to anything good. For the bourgeois understand only one language - with a kirzach in the face. And for each of their nasty things, an immediate asymmetric response must follow. Introduced sanctions? Iran has a pair of S-400 batteries .. Has it introduced yet? Our military base turned out to be in Venezuela. Not understood? The Houthis acquired Iskander .. And so on. And the policy of silently wiping spit from charisma will only lead to the fact that spitting in the face will become even more abundant and savory ..
          1. +3
            28 August 2020 23: 07
            Paul3390, this is "silently wiping spit with charisma", pleased, laughed. And then some days have gone gloomy, summer, consider it as if it had not happened, experts shout out loud that half of the enterprises have nothing to pay taxes, in a month the second wave of the epidemic and bankruptcy will go, and even Lukashenka has graduated, in general - - horror! And suddenly - "spitting with charisma", it's already easier, thanks! )))
            And as for Tolstoyism, then, apparently, the principle "do not make sudden movements", pretending that everything is fine. It works on some.
        4. 0
          29 August 2020 02: 11
          Quote: Snail N9
          why shouldn't Russia officially recognize the artificial development of covid with the participation of the United States in this?

          It is necessary to deal with the real danger of Covid-19-2, and not with the fictional imaginary developers of the covid infection in the United States. Trump took up the fight against China and Russia. As a result, the United States lost from Covid-19-2 200 thousand killed, about 500 000 crippled by this disease, and by the beginning of 2021 this figure is likely to double. This is the price of error in determining the danger of problems
    4. -3
      28 August 2020 11: 15
      The toad crushed and the market is protected.

      It is not.
      Let's try to understand the logic of the amers - if we assume that COVID-19 is an American biological weapon, then to neutralize it, similar developments (level of technology) are required, of an approximately comparable level. That is, the Americans are confident that it is impossible to create a vaccine against coronavirus until you raise the level of science to a comparable level with COVID-19, that is, the ability to create your own analogue. And if the Russians did create a vaccine, then they have technologies in biology at the level of COVID-19. That is, the Americans have de facto confirmed that COVID-19 is a biological weapon created by them.
      This is if translated into Russian, from their diplomatic language)))
      Something like this )))
      1. +3
        28 August 2020 18: 32
        Quote: lucul
        It is not.
        Let's try to understand the logic of the amers - if we assume that COVID-19 is an American biological weapon, then to neutralize it, similar developments (the level of technology) are required, of an approximately comparable level. That is, Americans are confident that it is impossible to create a vaccine against coronavirus

        There is a certain sense in this, but most likely the essence lies in something else, namely in the financial issue. Mattresses do not want to divide the market for antiviral vaccine. It was not for nothing that they offered Germany to sell to the United States all their developments on creating a vaccine against Covid-19, and then suddenly Russia announced that the vaccine had already been created. If our vaccine dose is estimated at $ 10, then the estimated price of the American vaccine is $ 70. The need for the vaccine will exceed 5 billion doses, which essentially means a golden shower. Russia has already received an application from nearly 3 dozen countries for 1 billion doses, and if it confirms its effectiveness, then until the creation of a working vaccine in the United States, a significant part of the prospective sales market will go away from under the noses of American pharmaceutical corporations, which led to squeals. " hegemon "and the next sanctions. What is fair competition for mattresses is unknown.
        P / S / - the funniest thing is that Russia offered mattresses to participate in the joint creation of a vaccine, but this proposal from the United States was rejected. Now they bite their elbows and shit with the rapture of a maniac ...
    5. 0
      28 August 2020 11: 20
      the sales market is protected.


      Well, hardly ... Last week, the EU entered into an agreement with the manufacturer Astra Zeneca, and the developer at Oxford University, for 400 million doses. By the way, the Yankees bought from the same British company a vaccine worth $ 1,2 billion. The vaccine is already in the third phase of testing and delivery is expected by the end of the year. And there other companies are catching up.

      Actually, in order to take the market, you need a vaccine proven by tens of thousands of volunteers.
      1. 0
        28 August 2020 23: 29
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Well, hardly ... Last week, the EU entered into an agreement with the manufacturer Astra Zeneca, and the developer at Oxford University, for 400 million doses. By the way, the Yankees bought from the same British company a vaccine worth $ 1,2 billion. The vaccine is already in the third phase of testing and delivery is expected by the end of the year. And there other companies are catching up.

        So buy from them, at a market fair price. Although why do you need it? You have no patients. These are all fairy tales. wink
        1. 0
          28 August 2020 23: 36
          So buy from them, at a market fair price.


          Yes, this application contains 4 million vaccines for us. And today our government announced that the vaccine will be free of charge for Bulgarian citizens. wink
          1. -1
            28 August 2020 23: 38
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            Yes, this application contains 4 million vaccines for us. And today our government announced that the vaccine will be free of charge for Bulgarian citizens.

            Quote: Keyser Soze
            Yes, this application contains 4 million vaccines for us. andAnd today our government announced that the vaccine will be free of charge for Bulgarian citizens.

            "Meli Emelya is your week!" laughing
            1. 0
              28 August 2020 23: 46
              Meli Emelya is your week! "


              Greece will also be free laughing Actually, it seems that governments everywhere will attend to the vaccine, without bothering citizens with expenses ...

              Why this makes you laugh, I have no idea, but I'm glad I made your evening ... laughing
    6. +2
      28 August 2020 13: 45
      Stop the Brain, I'll Get Out ... wassat fool
  2. +6
    28 August 2020 05: 41
    Terrorism at the State Level ...
    1. +2
      28 August 2020 08: 54
      I am generally surprised that they have not yet sanctioned ALL of Russia as a potential site for the production of "weapons aimed at the citizens of the democratic enlightened world"!
      Why waste time on trifles, then?
      1. +3
        28 August 2020 09: 38
        Quote: Vlad.by
        sanctioned ALL Russia

        And I'm surprised! request Since Soviet times, I hauled American imperialism! angry
        1. +3
          28 August 2020 09: 52
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          And I'm surprised! request I hau American imperialism since Soviet times!

          And not you alone wink almost the whole country is like this hi
          1. +4
            28 August 2020 12: 31
            Quote: 41 REGION
            almost the whole country

            The American imperialist gave us a minus - these are sanctions, friend! sad
            1. +3
              28 August 2020 13: 17
              Quote from Uncle Lee
              The American imperialist gave us a minus - these are sanctions, friend!

              We will survive them laughing drinks
  3. +13
    28 August 2020 05: 51
    there are reasonable grounds to believe that the 48th Central Research Institute is associated with the Russian biological weapons program. "

    Look who's Talking..

    “All signs point to the most toxic, noxious and deadly viruses ever known in laboratories around the world. In the United States, these are Fort Detrick, Maryland, Pine Bluff Arsenal, Arkansas, Horn Island, Mississippi, Dugway Proving Grounds, Utah, Vigo Manufacturing Plant, Indiana and many others. Think of US military installations around the world. Nothing good will come of this, since we are not talking about the search for cures for diseases or the discovery of vaccines, but a deadly virus or other agent is made for only one reason, namely for the purpose of biological warfare, for mass murder "
    Gary D. Barnett.
    https://nvo.ng.ru/nvo/2020-02-21/100_biohazard2100220.html
    1. +4
      28 August 2020 07: 14
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      Look who's Talking..

      Vaccine testing is unfounded to equate to the creation of a deadly group of viruses, it takes a lot of mind (or tyrsy in the head) to come up with such nonsense. I have been to the states many times, I knew not by hearsay that the guys were inadequate, but here I already have no words. It's good that I was banned from entering the states.
      1. -2
        28 August 2020 07: 57
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Vaccine testing is unfounded to equate to the creation of a deadly group of viruses, it takes a lot of mind (or tyrs in the head) to come up with such nonsense

        And what's interesting is that their pipol hawala all this.
        1. +4
          28 August 2020 08: 30
          "Their people hawala all this" ... Who would say. Your beloved president publicly declared that, they say, you need to stop all sorts of insinuations about the artificial creation of a virus, he is of a natural origin, period ... Someone, obviously, someone very tightly holds Faberge ...
          1. -4
            28 August 2020 08: 36
            Quote: Snail N9
            the president publicly stated that, they say, it is necessary to stop all sorts of insinuations about the artificial creation of a virus, he is, of a natural origin, period ...

            Didn't hear. Be so kind as to give a link to direct speech of the president.
            1. +2
              28 August 2020 08: 41
              You don't hear a lot about your pet. Look for links yourself, you have the Internet and a lot of free time.
              1. -3
                28 August 2020 08: 42
                Quote: Snail N9
                Look for links yourself, you have the Internet and a lot of free time.

                As I understood it, I crowed, and there - at least don't bloom.
                1. +2
                  28 August 2020 08: 50
                  And I understand that only the grave will fix the hunchback ... Type in the search engine at least the phrase "Putin urged to fight the coronavirus and not talk about its occurrence"
                  1. -2
                    28 August 2020 09: 10
                    Quote: Snail N9
                    "Putin urged to fight the coronavirus, and not talk about its occurrence"

                    Is this really similar to what you wrote above? laughing :
                    "... the president publicly declared that, they say, it is necessary to stop all sorts of insinuations about the artificial creation of a virus, he is of a natural origin, period ...".

                    We were not looking for extreme, we just made a vaccine.
                    1. +1
                      28 August 2020 09: 20
                      And what does the phrase about the fact that "there is no reason to think about artificial origin" looks like? You have not even opened the article on the dropped links and have not read what your idol says there.
                      1. 0
                        30 August 2020 16: 43
                        artificial origin

                        Uncle, in order to understand the origin of viruses, you need to know what variability is, you need to understand biology at least at the 10th grade level, but ignorant believers in the creation of covidly do not understand what variability is and cannot tell about Darwin's theory, hence the belief in the CIA \ the devil
                        Sleep of reason gives birth to a monster.
          2. +1
            28 August 2020 09: 30
            Quote: Snail N9
            Someone, obviously, someone very tightly holds on to "Faberge" ...

            I don’t know for Faberge, but for the Easter ones, that's for sure.
  4. +8
    28 August 2020 06: 04
    Despite the fact that this is not true, many countries will now think a hundred times before buying a domestic drug for coronavirus. The tolerant pacifist public will not at all appreciate such concern for their own people. It is much calmer to wait until the end of the development of similar products from the United States and purchase at inflated prices.

    clear the field for our own pharmacists.

    and then we see a friendly chorus of commentators from the Promised Land that Americans are exceptionally honest in their trade and the choice of American weapons / equipment by other countries is a highly voluntary, objective and reasonable matter lol
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 09: 33
      Quote: Ka-52
      and then we see a chorus of commentators from the Promised Land that Americans are exceptionally honest in their trade

      The piggy bank is the common money.
  5. +9
    28 August 2020 06: 05
    Unfortunately, the management has no opportunities for a symmetrical answer

    More than there is! It is enough to look at who now owns the Russian pharmaceutical market and how instead of cheap domestic drugs they sell us g in beautiful packages and dietary supplements at fantastic prices.
    It's just to create a pharmaceutical state holding that will squeeze foreigners out of the market, leaving only those drugs that we do not yet produce.
    Instead, we calmly watch how our pharmaceutical industry is being finished off. For example, as with the help of their own law enforcement agencies, the Zhiguli plant "Tabletka" was closed, he produced very cheap drugs, which did not like the domestic (although what kind of domestic it is. Capital knows no boundaries) farmlobby.
    1. -2
      28 August 2020 14: 41
      I fully support! Only Russian, only hardcore! However, there is a problem - the Russian industry practically does not produce modern drugs (with the exception of a small fraction produced by the joint venture), mainly drugs from the 60s-70s. And so yes, create a state. holding (the effectiveness of which has been tested by time) and oblige by order to treat all especially "patriotic" citizens only with the products of the said state. holding. An extremely useful and fruitful idea: patriotically, support for domestic producers and stimulation of natural selection, as the driving force behind evolution.
      1. ANB
        0
        28 August 2020 23: 53
        Compare the price of Russian and American aspirin. And vitamins too.
        Do they have a different composition, or did someone just go too far?
        At the pharmacy, the first thing I do is ask for a medicine of our production, and only if not, sorting out imported analogues. So it's much more difficult for ours to run into a fake.
        1. +1
          29 August 2020 02: 39
          Anyone can indicate the composition, but to ensure the exact observance of the production technology - no, to comply with complete cleaning from production by-products (sometimes not the most "useful" for health) - also not. In addition to the chemical formula, there is also a spatial molecular orientation and structure, which also has a significant impact on efficiency and safety.
          Regarding immeasurable greyhound: say hello to your government for import duties and customs VAT, horse taxes for the entire chain from dealer / distributor to retailer, and don't forget about monstrous corruption and ersatz health insurance system in Russia. It is not worth blaming wholesalers and retailers too much, since at each stage the markup is regulated by the same government. So if you are satisfied with the authorities, then you should not be outraged by its "side" effects.
          If you want to get high-quality aspirin or vitamins in Russia at a price 2-3 times lower than pharmacy ones - Iherb will help you (I may be wrong, but in Russia it seems to be not completely banned yet).
          You have chosen a behavior model for yourself and believe that it will increase your chances of survival. Your full right. I can neither approve nor condemn her. Well, who am I to interfere with the previously mentioned natural selection (no matter how rude or cruel it may sound)?
  6. +5
    28 August 2020 06: 05
    A real war to the death is being waged against our country, and in a war all means are good and require no explanation. The goal is one - to destroy the enemy, that is, us.
    1. +3
      28 August 2020 23: 33
      Yes, exactly the war. Against us. Not competition. They do not dare to attack directly, it means food, medicine.
      It has become quite unbearable the other day. I made up my mind and bought 30 tablets of prescribed cardiomagnyl. I thought that now I will open the bottle, but it is full. And what? Tiny hearts barely cover the bottom of a small glass container. Price - 130 rubles. But this is just aspirin mixed with magnesium.
      And with horror I try to read the indigestible medical handwriting in the prescription part of the extract: some 5 more medications. Yes nafig! Not yet fined for ignoring the recipe. And there - who knows how it will be. For failure to appear at the pharmacy.
  7. +1
    28 August 2020 06: 08
    Competition, all means are good here, plus there is an import component.
  8. +2
    28 August 2020 06: 20
    Unfortunately, the management has no opportunities for a symmetrical answer ...

    There should be only one answer here - practical evidence of the effectiveness of the vaccine, even in terms of providing humanitarian assistance.
    ... but there are many biolaboratories around the country run by specialists from the USA.

    As for those labs ...

    laughing
    1. +2
      28 August 2020 09: 21
      well, why do you need Iskander at once, you need a quiet type not reliable wiring not reliable coffee machines failure of ventilation and air conditioning, etc. in our high-tech world, according to Murphy's laws, get a small disaster without problems
  9. +3
    28 August 2020 06: 32
    Plague laboratories burn, burn and burn !!!! And to roll out a claim (terribly serious, up to the threat of restoring its production) on American chemical weapons.
  10. +4
    28 August 2020 06: 36
    Since the vaccine cannot be sold abroad under normal conditions, it means that it is necessary to do so in order to get the maximum benefit from this situation. For example, by demonstrating the validity of giving it ... for free. Give it to all of humanity! love crying So that competitors have no chance to make money by themselves. The Russian state will find a way to make money elsewhere. For example, such a gesture could become the beginning of a broad PR campaign for the Russian school of microbiology. Then you can count on the training of foreign students, on orders for the manufacture of other drugs.
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 06: 47
      Quote: Shuttle
      Since the vaccine cannot be sold abroad under normal conditions, it means that it is necessary to do so in order to get the maximum benefit from this situation. For example, by demonstrating the validity of giving it ... for free. Give it to all of humanity! love crying So that competitors have no chance to make money by themselves. The Russian state will find a way to make money elsewhere. For example, such a gesture could become the beginning of a broad PR campaign for the Russian school of microbiology. Then you can count on the training of foreign students, on orders for the manufacture of other drugs.

      You can give away technology for free, but it is too expensive to donate, and then it is not known how it will work in comparison with foreign analogues, because foreign flu vaccines are better
      1. -1
        28 August 2020 07: 10
        Yes, I probably didn't put it exactly. Of course, the point is to ensure at least no return on investment to competitors.

        Quote: Pilat2009
        And then it is not known how it will work in comparison with foreign counterparts, because foreign flu vaccines are better

        My personal opinion is that all these highly effective flu vaccines have led to such excesses as H1N1, H5N1, as well as the latest COVID-19, because nature does not tolerate emptiness. We live in the kingdom of viruses. They are around us, they are inside us, they are part of our bodies. But we stubbornly fight them, regardless of their danger and role in our life. Even with the most harmless ones like seasonal flu. Well, that's done.

        http://www.homeorealhelp.ru/p_i_6.html
        1. 0
          28 August 2020 07: 45
          Quote: Shuttle
          Yes, I probably didn't put it exactly. Of course, the point is to ensure at least no return on investment to competitors.

          Quote: Pilat2009
          And then it is not known how it will work in comparison with foreign counterparts, because foreign flu vaccines are better

          My personal opinion is that all these highly effective flu vaccines have led to such excesses as H1N1, H5N1, as well as the latest COVID-19, because nature does not tolerate emptiness. We live in the kingdom of viruses. They are around us, they are inside us, they are part of our bodies. But we stubbornly fight them, regardless of their danger and role in our life. Even with the most harmless ones like seasonal flu. Well, that's done.

          http://www.homeorealhelp.ru/p_i_6.html

          So the vaccine does not kill the virus, but allows the body to adapt. And my opinion is that this is all the same the Chinese have stirred up
    2. 0
      28 August 2020 12: 28
      Quote: Shuttle
      Since the vaccine is not allowed to be sold abroad under normal conditions

      Where did you read this?
      1. 0
        28 August 2020 16: 19
        Quote: WIKI
        Quote: Shuttle
        Since the vaccine is not allowed to be sold abroad under normal conditions

        Where did you read this?

        So far nowhere. This is still an assumption.
  11. +3
    28 August 2020 06: 37
    Unhealthy competition on the brink of war, how the World is split and contradictory, the Power of the World Bubble makes it so, where there is no unity and there is a constant economic and political squabble, The unipolar globalist World may be more stable, but this requires the principles of equality for all peoples, which also not these days.
    Everything is not perfect on Earth, is the result of geopolitical competition a new World War?
  12. +2
    28 August 2020 06: 43
    So I didn’t understand what kind of sanctions they were proposing in response?
  13. 0
    28 August 2020 06: 53
    Reasonable there was not and is not present ..... they broke off at the grandmother, that's all.
  14. 0
    28 August 2020 06: 57
    It's just some fucking circus. And our enemies do not understand that such clowns simply cease to be respected, although they do not cease to be afraid ..
    1. 0
      28 August 2020 23: 34
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      It's just some fucking circus. And our enemies do not understand that such clowns simply cease to be respected, although they do not cease to be afraid.

      It's just envy. Otherwise, why sanctions if the "product" is unsuccessful? Straight hysterics of some sort. Especially looking at the comments of some Israelis. laughing If the Russian vaccine is so bad, or nothing at all, then why is there such a shout around it? And they yell well. wink
      1. +1
        29 August 2020 10: 35
        That's for sure!!!!
  15. 0
    28 August 2020 07: 06
    Capitalism in all its glory in its final stage.
  16. +1
    28 August 2020 07: 07
    Politics and coronavirus infection have long started to live together.

    As always, Uncle Sam's children put eggs and bricks in one basket. What a disagreeable people.
  17. Ham
    +1
    28 August 2020 07: 20
    The tolerant pacifist public will not at all appreciate such concern for their own people

    don't give a damn about these! I still believe that there will be much more NON-tolerant and NON-Pacifists ...
  18. +1
    28 August 2020 07: 34
    As a citizen of RUSSIA, my opinion about the next bunch from overseas: WE RATE!
    Quote: "There are reasonable grounds to believe ...." So you can say when there is reason, but the last 20 years the American "Carthage" has demonstrated the presence of the absence of reason.
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  20. +4
    28 August 2020 07: 48
    A group of Russian scientists: Royak, Rodendorf, Rappoport and Zuckerman, under the leadership of Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Gintsburg, created a vaccine against coronavirus.
    Israel has declared that they have not the slightest reason not to trust these Russians.
    They are confident that the vaccine will be effective and safe and are ready to participate in its further laboratory research and clinical trials.
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 09: 15
      as Brigadeführer SS Mueller said in the film: let his grandmother be three times Jewish, the main thing is that he work for Reich
      1. +1
        28 August 2020 09: 42
        Quote: Ryaruav
        as Brigadeführer SS Mueller said in the film: let his grandmother be three times Jewish, the main thing is that he work for Reich

        Reich and RF?
        Do you think such parallels are appropriate?
    2. +2
      28 August 2020 09: 49
      Quote: A. Privalov
      A group of Russian scientists: Royak, Rodendorf, Rappoport and Zuckerman, under the leadership of Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Gintsburg, created a vaccine against coronavirus.
      Israel has declared that they have not the slightest reason not to trust these Russians.

      - God, make it so that I am considered Russian, - asked the Jew in Russia.
      “Okay,” God said ... and brought him to Israel.
      smile
      1. +2
        28 August 2020 10: 18
        Quote: Alexey RA
        God, make it so that I am considered Russian, - asked the Jew in Russia.
        “Okay,” God said ... and brought him to Israel.

        Very symbolic! laughing

        In this regard, in Russia it has always been and is much simpler:
        1. +1
          28 August 2020 10: 41
          ha ha ha well, you are a cool anti-Semite and I don’t see anything wrong with that. The man doesn’t cut anyone and doesn’t shoot. I forgot to say that all the leading bonza of the United States is just this supposedly chosen one of God (they invented God for everyone, tell me that the beast is Soros believes in God) I am happy for the people in the state of Israel, well done, of course, but without external support they cannot survive even with a couple of nuclear bombs
        2. -3
          28 August 2020 17: 52
          Are you tired of posting this nonsense all the time? About you a certain kind of amber. wink
          1. +1
            28 August 2020 18: 59
            So stay away from us, my dear, and your sensitive nose will not be hurt, and we will greatly appreciate it. I dare not delay any longer. hi
            1. -2
              28 August 2020 23: 01
              Quote: A. Privalov
              So stay away from us, my dear, and your sensitive nose will not be hurt, and we will greatly appreciate it.

              So, unlike some, I do not sit on Israeli sites. I do not post libelous pictures there. Deal with your country and your vaccine, envious people.
              1. +1
                29 August 2020 05: 47
                With perseverance worthy of a better application, you, moving from topic to topic, pester strangers with some ridiculous claims. After that, do you still complain about amber? Apparently, this amber is very attractive to you, so don't pretend to be a Kazan orphan here.
                So, my dear, we will act mutually politely: you will not tell us which sites to sit on and what to post, and we will not tell you where to go.
                I wish you well. hi
                1. -1
                  29 August 2020 14: 53
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  and we won't tell you where to go.

                  Yes, you have already taken everything there, "dear". hi
    3. 0
      28 August 2020 16: 23
      They are confident that the vaccine will be effective and safe and are ready to participate in its further laboratory research and clinical trials.

      Yes, the Jews will make their own, and if necessary, they will buy ours. This hegemon must not lose his face. Although much further.
  21. +3
    28 August 2020 09: 11
    this is not the United States, this is a country of fat marmots parasitizing the entire planet earth
  22. -3
    28 August 2020 09: 32
    "another 30 Chinese pharmaceutical companies."
    Please note that the United States knows all global companies and the employees of these companies by their last names! I will not talk about the Chinese. But this is how to sell the Motherland, to the extent that the Americans know everything !! In the USSR, such a nightmare could not have been dreamed of! The Americans control the entire industry of Russia, and our government reacts calmly to this.
    "Unfortunately, the management has no opportunities for a symmetrical answer,"
    I wonder what answer the employee can have to the owner? Just quit or die!
    1. -1
      28 August 2020 16: 35
      how to sell your homeland, to the extent that Americans know everything

      What nonsense from the yellow house. Well these are pharmacists. Go to any website of any pharmaceutical plant, rewrite the names of your superiors and you will become completely in control of the entire industry.
      I will say more to all heads of defense enterprises from UVZ to ZIH from Admiralteyskie to Almaz - PUBLIC PEOPLE their full names are known to everyone really horror?

      And take a pill so that you don't have nightmares and sleep well: in the USSR it was very similar - the legends that no one knew the names of Chelomey, Landau or Prokhorov are fairy tales for lumpen.
    2. -1
      29 August 2020 02: 37
      Quote: steel maker
      But this is how to sell the Motherland, to the extent that the Americans know everything !!

      Apparently, our scientists are more respected in the USA than in their homeland. Musk, for example, earlier than Rogozin and seemed to have a more respectful conversation with the descendants of Russian rocket scientists. The queen was kept secret until his death, taking away from him the laurels of national recognition and honor during his lifetime. And who knows that another Chief Designer of rocketry, Marx, was deprived of his apartment in the 1990s? And how many people know that there were Chief Designers besides Glushko and Korolyov? In modern Russia, Bonya, Nagiyev, Fomenko, Ksyusha are surrounded by great honor, prosperity and fame than the unknown competitors of the Mask team. At one time, Soros saved science in Russia from complete destruction with his scholarships (in this I trust the opinion of Simon Schnoll). Apparently, since then, the West knows better about the state of science in Russia than the Russian government.
  23. BAI
    0
    28 August 2020 10: 31
    Once you have managed to create a vaccine, you will create a combat virus (bacillus), so get sanctions.

    The author is a little off topic. First, a combat virus is created, and then a vaccine. You cannot treat a disease that does not exist. Therefore, the logic of the United States is as follows - since they created a vaccine so quickly, it means they had the best practices, i.e. there is a similar virus. Therefore, the sanctions.
    By the way, the branch in Sergiev Posad is called by the local residents - "Vaccine".
    1. 0
      28 August 2020 16: 25
      since they created a vaccine so quickly, it means they had the best practices, i.e. there is a similar virus.

      Logic is crazy who made the first vaccine against smallpox? French people? Beat them with sanctions!
    2. 0
      29 August 2020 02: 51
      Quote: BAI
      they quickly created a vaccine, which means they had developments

      In the PRC, they passed the 2nd stage of testing their vaccine earlier than in Russia. In the West, some development groups either overtook the Russian ones or lagged behind quite a bit. It's just that the containment of Russia in the United States is goal number 1 and is supported by the entire society. But regarding the PRC, Biden designated his position as not hostile, unlike Trump's. Russia is now referred to in the West as the DPRK in 1998. Then the rulers of South Korea thought that in conditions of a three-year crop failure, lack of fuel, flooding that washed the terraced fields from the mountains, flooding of coal mines with rains with food and oil embargo of the recalcitrant Northern neighbor, it was simply to force the food and oil embargo to surrender. Moreover, apparently if then the DPRK showed the same hostility to South Korea and the United States as in the 1960s it would have sold both grain and oil on credit.
  24. -1
    28 August 2020 11: 00
    ov toad strangles while they were preparing ours were already working. And they made a vaccine. Such a market share was taken away from the
  25. +2
    28 August 2020 14: 43
    These mattress mats, represented by the senators of Fashingston on a bad hill, are finally full of idiots ... Instead of rejoicing that there is a way to save their state from infection, they introduce some incomprehensible sakts against our biologists ... This is their black envy of the country "torn economy" and the country-gas station ... Hello Babama-retired!
  26. +1
    28 August 2020 16: 01
    And what do they have with the fact that we declare their laboratories as centers for the development of omp?
    Their sanctions are announced for everyone, and we can only declare for ourselves and the neighbor's cat Vaska, we have our own companies that ignore our own decisions
  27. 0
    28 August 2020 17: 20
    Quote: tihonmarine
    I wonder what Russia's debt to various IMFs and other foreign banks?

    In a trade war, it is better to have debt - if you impose sanctions, you don't have to pay.
  28. 0
    28 August 2020 17: 46
    We sell a vaccine for anything but dollars. US $ for gold. Didn't have time for: one day to make a vaccine like in Hollywood. The US gets a whistle for fright. Crawl on your knees. You have elections on your nose, you need to share power. The coronavirus is a lie. invented for the sake of elections. : fool
  29. 0
    28 August 2020 19: 32
    It would be possible in response to ban the use of American medical or other products. But we can't. The USSR could afford it, but it was ruined. Themselves, moreover, ruined. Now what is left? Puffing out your cheeks and grinding your teeth? The best answer would be that people in Russia will stop getting sick of this American-Chinese infection. They get sick in America, but we don't, well, or almost none. And they do not die ... But now all the agents of influence will be connected. And in Russia and those who are sitting abroad on the people's money. And write wasted. This is what Trumpuchea, the former United States, is counting on.
  30. 0
    28 August 2020 20: 28
    The Light Elves of the obsera ... began on a regular basis. All their "advanced technologies" are in fact zilch. All the power is in the printing press. To prohibit buying a vaccine, they thought of it! If the vaccine is effective, no one will look back at the United States. These sanctions are tantamount to banning people from living. Once again I am convinced that the US politicians, frankly sick in the head, people completely live in their illusions.
  31. 0
    29 August 2020 01: 37
    But one fact is interesting ... which of the members of the forum will be vaccinated. And what kind of vaccine. There is no third phase of the trial. It will be only after being tested on doctors and teachers. It is strange that not on the deputies, lawyers and the investigative committee. I think the haste is inappropriate. The only reason is the financial gain from sales. It's hard to believe in our pharmaceutical companies. Raw materials are either from India or China. Generic medicines. There is an effect, but not always. And there are many side effects. In general, everything is somehow muddy
    1. +1
      29 August 2020 03: 07
      Physicians and doctors at risk. The death rate from Covid among them should be the highest. The situation in South and North America says that a very large part of humanity will get sick with covid-19-2. Moreover, if the infection is slow (with a small dose of the virus, for example, in a mask on the street, observing the distance and the rules for wearing and disposing of the mask), then immunity is developed without the appearance of symptoms of the disease. And if a doctor or a nurse is in a hospital, then a 40-year-old woman may die with a high probability. Therefore, the government's requirement to provide the vaccine to doctors and teachers first is reasonable. Most drugs were developed 70 years ago. Replacing a European vitamin or aspirin is no more difficult than a screw, oil, gasoline or a tire, if the technology of its production has been preserved. In principle, it is very tempting for Americans to use Covid-19-2 to kill between 100 and 000 Russians, convincing most of them of the danger of being vaccinated against Covid 3-000. A smaller figure, this is if about a million have now become ill with covid and about 000 have died, according to statistics, a large figure if 19% of the population has already suffered asymptomatic covid in addition to 2 identified cases.
      1. 0
        29 August 2020 11: 50
        I disagree. The percentage of patients who have recovered among doctors tends to 100%. From measles in the USSR, the development of a vaccine took 10 years. The death rate from COVID-19 is 1-2%. The vaccine is raw and unfinished. No ethical committee will miss a drug tested on 50 volunteers. I will not argue about the pharmaceutical company. You say the screw in the car .... As you know, we cannot replace the screw and the oil with our own. And you mean pharmacology. Where is the development of 1 drug costs billion dollars
  32. 0
    29 August 2020 11: 32
    In principle, this is correct. These technologies are good for bringing people together. It doesn't matter how effective they are ..
    Ps. Just what? Russia, which had a fairly decent school of real fundamental research .. just don’t steam my brain with zircons, I’m not the same.