The veil of secrecy has been lifted. Celera 500L is officially presented

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An unusual experimental aircraft was sighted in the United States several years ago. Later it became known that it bears the name Celera 500L and was created by the Otto Aviation Group. Soon, new data on the goals and results of the project appeared - but its developers were in no hurry to disclose official information. This happened only now, when the plane passed tests and confirmed its characteristics.

According to official data


The existence of an unusual aircraft became known in the spring of 2017, when it was noticed at one of the airfields in California. Later, clearer photographs appeared in which one could see the registration number - and this gave new information. The name of the project and its authors have become known. Soon, a patent for a similar aircraft design was discovered.



However, until recently, there were no official data on the aircraft. Just a few days ago, Otto Aviation launched its official website, focusing on the Celera 500L project. The resource is replete with loud headlines: "it will change everything", "built, flew, tested", etc. In addition, photo and video materials are provided, as well as technical characteristics, etc.


The goal of the Celera 500L project is the creation of a commercial aircraft with improved efficiency characteristics. They are achieved through a special aerodynamic design that provides laminar flow and reduces air resistance. The main solutions and technologies of the project are secured by seven patents.

The development company reports that the Celera 500L has passed flight tests to date. 31 test flights with a total duration of 35 hours were completed. The prototype confirmed the correctness of the solutions used and showed high flight and economic data.

Achievement technologies


The Celera 500L has an unusual appearance driven by aerodynamic optimization. Used fuselage in the form of an elongated ellipsoid, supplemented by a thin tail boom, with a minimum of protruding elements. Only in the tail section are protruding fairings of the air intake devices and empennage provided. A tail pusher propeller is also used, which does not in any way affect the aerodynamics of the aircraft itself.

A narrow wing of high aspect ratio was used with a minimum sweep along the leading edge and raised tips. The tail includes an elliptical stabilizer, as well as a keel and ridge with straightened edges. Used the minimum required set of rudders.


The experimental aircraft was equipped with a RED A03 water-cooled piston engine of the V12 scheme with a power of 550 hp. This engine is characterized by low weight and high power density. He can use gasoline aviation kerosene or biodiesel. Both rows of cylinders are made in the form of units with the possibility of autonomous operation to increase survivability. Engine operation is electronically controlled. Exhaust gases enter special nozzle devices, mix with atmospheric air and create additional thrust.

The aircraft received a cargo-passenger cabin with a height of approx. 1,85 m and length approx. 5 m with a total volume of 12,7 cubic meters. A business class passenger cabin with six seats and various additional equipment is offered.

Competitive advantages


As conceived by the developers, the Celera 500L aircraft in the market should push the existing "business jets" and possibly influence other areas of air transportation. This will be facilitated by the presence of a number of flight technical, operational, economic and environmental advantages - all this is due to the special appearance of the machine.

The special contours of the airframe provide a laminar flow. Research has shown that the Celera 500L has 59% less drag compared to a conventional aircraft of the same size and performance. The aerodynamic quality has been brought to 22 and significantly exceeds the performance of competing cars.

The veil of secrecy has been lifted. Celera 500L is officially presented

Features of the flow around the fuselage

The aircraft from Otto Aviation, at least, is not inferior to competitors in terms of flight characteristics. The cruising speed reaches 460 miles per hour (740 km / h), and the flight range is 4500 nautical miles (more than 8300 km). High efficiency is achieved. For "traditional" aircraft, this figure is at the level of 2-3 miles per gallon (80-120 liters per 100 km). For the Celera 500L, it goes up to 18-25 mpg (9-13 liters per 100 km).

Operating costs are reduced accordingly. The cost of a flight hour is declared at US $ 328. For competitors, this parameter can reach $ 2,1 thousand. A sharp reduction in emissions is also cited as an advantage. In this respect, the Celera 500L is 30% ahead of the ICAO and FAA forward-looking requirements for aircraft entering service after 2031.

The ergonomics of the passenger cabin is called an important advantage over competitors. It has an increased height and allows passengers to walk upright. At the same time, the same number of seats is provided as on the most common "business jets", and there is also a reserve for the installation of additional equipment.


RED A03 engine

Thus, the Celera 500L will be able to carry a small number of passengers at the same speed as other aircraft, but over long distances. At the same time, it will be possible to reduce the cost of the flight and increase convenience. Such opportunities will be useful in the business aviation field, and can also become a new word in charter flights. In some cases, the new aircraft can become a real "air taxi".

Plans for the future


To date, the development company has built and tested the first aircraft of a new type. Now it is necessary to carry out a number of new events of various kinds, according to the results of which the equipment will go into series and go into operation. All necessary work is planned to be completed by the middle of the decade.

Currently, the finalization and improvement of the design in the framework of Round A continues. In 2021, the “B” stage will begin. The finished aircraft will be presented for certification. In addition, Otto Aviation plans to find a site to build its own aircraft factory. After that, they will start accepting orders for serial equipment.


Cabin layout

For 2023-25 Phase C is scheduled for FAA certification, construction of the plant and commencement of aircraft production for customers. No later than 2025, the first Celera 500L will be handed over to customers.

The development of the next aircraft model has already begun, based on proven and proven technologies. The promising passenger Celera 1000L will be slightly larger and heavier than the existing model and due to this it will be able to carry more passengers over longer distances. The possibility of creating a modification of the aircraft with an electric power plant and an unmanned version is also being considered. However, the timing of the appearance of such projects has not yet been specified.

An aviation revolution?


Otto Aviation Group plans to enter the passenger aircraft market and recapture a significant share of it. To increase her chances of commercial success, she did not copy other people's ideas, but carried out extensive research and development work and developed a promising appearance of the aircraft with a number of advantages over existing designs.

The company's approach to the development of new technology is curious. Much of the research and development work was carried out in secrecy. The project was officially presented only after the tests of the prototype aircraft, which confirmed the calculated characteristics.


Celera 500L cab advantages

The technical novelty of the project provides significant technical and economic advantages over competitors. However, it also leads to various risks and can scare off potential customers. However, the plane successfully coped with the tests, which should influence the opinion of buyers.

According to the plans of the developer company, the Celera 500L project will go to series and operation for another 4-5 years. During this time, it is necessary to carry out a number of important activities, from fine-tuning and certification to the construction of the plant and the launch of production. In addition, the process of promoting a new development on the market has recently started. In general, Otto Aviation still has enough time to complete development, launch construction and attract customers.

What the future holds for a promising aircraft with an unusual flare is a big question. The declared characteristics are confirmed by tests and are of great interest. At the same time, concerns are raised by the high degree of novelty, as well as the lack of a production site. It is possible that the Celera 500L and derivatives of this project will eventually find their place in commercial transportation - but this will not happen until 2025. And only after that it will become clear whether there will be a revolution in air transportation.
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  1. +22
    28 August 2020 18: 08
    Fantastic? Judging by the declared fuel consumption is very similar to fantasy.
    1. -49
      28 August 2020 18: 37
      chota rzhu with this flying crap ...
      1. -3
        28 August 2020 20: 22
        Open YouTube and watch "10 FAILED General Aviation Airplanes"
        # 2 called Lear Fan ... I alone think that Celer is just his overweight reincarnation?

        A load-bearing (is it?) Fuselage is good, but straight wings are just an air brake.
        1. +4
          29 August 2020 22: 39
          Quote: g1washntwn
          It seems to me alone that Celer is just his overweight reincarnation?

          Almost any modern aircraft - fuselage, wings, engine, cockpit (s) and cargo / passenger compartment. And any successful creator of new aircraft began by studying other people's models.
          1. +2
            31 August 2020 07: 31
            And there are only seven musical notes and sometimes they still manage not to repeat themselves. Look at the history of such "super-business jets", 10 failures are not all. And Celera will most likely follow them (unless, of course, all competitors withdraw themselves).
      2. Zug
        -12
        28 August 2020 21: 05
        Looks like a flying p-s
      3. -3
        28 August 2020 21: 42
        Quote: Dead Day
        chota rzhu with this flying crap ...

        Yes, apparently Otto was fond of vimanas, so he didn't spend a lot of time developing the look! smile according to
        The Otto Aviation Group plans to enter the market ..... it did not copy other people's ideas, but carried out extensive research and development work and developed a promising appearance of the aircraft with a number of advantages over existing designs.
      4. +13
        28 August 2020 22: 31
        you can laugh as much as you like.
    2. +13
      28 August 2020 21: 41
      Quote: garri-lin
      Fantastic? Judging by the declared fuel consumption is very similar to fantasy.


      Yes, never a fantasy. Traditionally, BusinessJets have jet engines.
      And all the know-how that an ICE-powered propeller was installed here.
      If you add an engine with a propeller instead of jet engines to any long-flying BusinessJet, their fuel consumption will also decrease significantly.
      1. +14
        28 August 2020 21: 57
        Less than 1hp per kilometer of cruising speed is cool. And the expense is very small.
        1. -2
          29 August 2020 14: 24
          Almost like a 1,5 ton truck.
    3. +5
      29 August 2020 07: 25
      So they compare to business jet jets! But if you compare it with the turboprop Cessna, the difference turns out to be quite small ...
      1. +22
        29 August 2020 08: 06
        But it is there. Name a cessna that can fly 8000 km at a speed of over 700 km / h. The aircraft is not twice as fast as its analogues. But the gap is significant. Let's see what happens next.
        1. +6
          29 August 2020 10: 00
          And what will happen next? Until the thunder breaks out, the man crosses himself.
          If they competently bring it to the market, build a plant, receive state support (for rent, not without it), then a serious market segment will be undermined. And when it comes to the revolution in long-haul passenger and transport aviation, one will suddenly recall our own developments on laminar flow flow, EKIP, for example. And they will begin to develop their own aircraft at a frantic pace on its basis ...
          1. -2
            29 August 2020 10: 45
            For the civilian segment? Unlikely. If only the Chinese will lobby.
          2. +1
            30 August 2020 03: 21
            We talked about the so-called. "oval plane") that there are some real developments - I have not heard.
            1. 0
              31 August 2020 15: 22
              EPIC was based on this concept.
              1. +1
                4 September 2020 20: 19
                Not "EPIK", but "EKIP", according to the developer himself - "ECOLOGY AND PROGRESS".
                1. 0
                  8 September 2020 22: 36
                  Sclerosis
        2. +3
          29 August 2020 15: 25
          Quote: garri-lin
          But it is there. Name a cesna that can fly 8000 km at a speed of more than 700 km / h


          And I am confused that the maximum speed of this device is not mentioned anywhere.
          As if, after the developer company collects money from investors, not hear the following:
          Oh, you misunderstood us, 740 km / h is not a cruising speed, but a maximum one. But our device is still very beautiful! Give me more money!
          1. -1
            29 August 2020 23: 31
            Investors are not fools. That they will also give it away.
        3. +1
          29 August 2020 19: 57
          Tsesna 850, range 7400 at a maximum speed of 900. And for some reason I strongly doubt that the pepelatsa in article 700 is cruising and not maximum speed.
          1. +2
            29 August 2020 23: 38
            And how many Tsesn 850 are in the ranks? 740 cruising with a propeller and economy is difficult to achieve. Or fancy or breakout. Remember EPIK did not fly badly.
        4. +2
          31 August 2020 12: 45
          Quote: garri-lin
          Name a cesna that can fly 8000 km at a speed of more than 700 km / h


          Here - cesna Tu-95 - cruising speed 710 km / h - "full business"
          1. +1
            31 August 2020 15: 21
            Will you calculate the total power of the engines yourself or suggest?
          2. 0
            1 September 2020 09: 28
            It can't be fuller. You have to be Gates to pay at least fuel and lubricants for this thing. True, Gates has brains ... So the market sector is too narrow.
    4. +7
      29 August 2020 09: 02
      Most of all, the speed surprised 740 km / h with a piston diesel engine
      1. +1
        29 August 2020 09: 10
        The ratio of range and speed is faster.
      2. +4
        29 August 2020 10: 45
        Normal speed. In the late 40s, almost all pistons could fly at such a speed. 750-850 km / h, their limit due to the general laws of aerodynamics for propellers does not increase the power of engines. Therefore, the era of jet aviation has come.
        1. +3
          29 August 2020 12: 17
          Quote: shinobi
          Normal speed: In the late 40s, almost all pistons could fly at this speed.

          For the Celera 500L, this is the cruising speed.
          And for those it was the maximum speed, VERY far from cruising.
          1. +3
            30 August 2020 01: 15
            This is their statement, which causes great doubts among the majority.
        2. +4
          29 August 2020 13: 57
          What engine power did such aircraft have? And what is the power of the Tu95 theater? And what is the speed?
    5. +1
      29 August 2020 18: 36
      Quote: garri-lin
      Fantastic? Judging by the declared fuel consumption is very similar to fantasy.

      A barrel with an internal combustion engine, and even a propeller? Yes, for the declared ranges? Nonsense for PR!
      1. +3
        29 August 2020 23: 34
        Or delirium or breakthrough. Or wishful thinking. But very interesting.
    6. +1
      29 August 2020 20: 36
      It looks like fantasy.
  2. -8
    28 August 2020 18: 10
    What is this flying cucumber !? laughing
    And how, may I ask, according to the rules of visual flight, to fly this car with such glazing? Or all hope is for appliances and electronics?
    1. -11
      28 August 2020 19: 14
      landing gear in my opinion, for one landing ... but, on the "belly" ... wassat
      1. 0
        28 August 2020 20: 55
        "he will be sent, but you do not steal" everything will be fine with you, they will cease to be friends with Brazil and Canada, France - will go into the series, if not, an argument for bargaining in other areas
      2. 0
        28 August 2020 21: 08
        The impression that the struts lower the plane after stopping.
        The front one is strongly folded in the hinge, and the rear wheel stands at such an angle, as if the rack should be higher in order to stand level.
        1. 0
          29 August 2020 10: 20
          Quote: Avior
          The impression that the struts lower the plane after stopping.
          The front one is strongly folded in the hinge, and the rear wheel stands at such an angle, as if the rack should be higher in order to stand level.

          "Crouched" for loading and unloading?
          1. 0
            29 August 2020 10: 34
            Something like that. Buses have
            1. +6
              29 August 2020 10: 39
              Quote: Avior
              Something like that. Buses have

              The bus "crouches" to the level of the "curb" ("curb") for the convenience of boarding and disembarking passengers in wheelchairs, mothers with baby carriages ...
              Here, such a need is not traced, and besides, what prevents to make the internal ladder of the plane a dozen or two centimeters longer?

              Why fence such a garden with chassis hydraulics in the absence of a clear need, and with an obvious complication / weighting / rise in the cost of the structure?

              Riddle Yes ...
        2. +4
          29 August 2020 12: 33
          Quote: Avior
          The impression that the struts lower the plane after stopping.

          I think this is a fixed low position - there are no elements for which you need to be reinsured (like underwing engines).
          The task of such a chassis design is to provide a maximum base, with an intra-fuselage arrangement.
          Since the goal of the aircraft is record range and economy, the landing gear, for maximum relief, is designed exclusively for high-quality runways.
        3. +6
          29 August 2020 14: 08
          Quote: Avior
          The impression that the struts lower the plane after stopping.
          The front one is strongly folded in the hinge, and the rear wheel stands at such an angle, as if the rack should be higher in order to stand level.

          the video of takeoff and landing clearly shows that this is an unchanged low position of the landing gear
  3. +12
    28 August 2020 18: 16
    31 flights with a total duration of 35 hours.
    Let him make one flight at the declared range.
    Then it will be possible to discuss and wonder.
    1. +4
      28 August 2020 21: 10
      And he didn't?
      At cruising 740 it is 11 hours.
      1. +3
        28 August 2020 23: 10
        Quote: Avior
        At cruising 740 it is 11 hours.

        Cruising is the most embarrassing thing. With an engine of 550 hp it is not a trivial task to disperse this not thin cucumber to 740 km / h. And here, by the way, they say that this is a cruising. I don't remember piston planes with such speed in principle.
        1. +9
          29 August 2020 01: 05
          I am also very much summed up about 740 km / h. If it is cruising, and the maximum then how much do they have?
          They lie like breathing.
          1. +1
            29 August 2020 18: 39
            Quote: garik77
            They lie like breathing.

            And they lie, as they fart!
        2. +7
          29 August 2020 09: 18
          Me too
          For fighters of the end of World War II, a comparable maximum was achieved with much more powerful engines.
          1. +5
            29 August 2020 18: 01
            I could be wrong, but judging by the flow pattern around the Otto body, they achieved acceleration and concentration of flows in the plane of the pushing screw (respectively, an increase in efficiency), which, together with the use of the Meredith effect (which can be assumed from the shape of the air intakes), may well provide the declared characteristics (including the ceiling).
          2. 0
            1 September 2020 09: 32
            At the same time, the aerodynamics of these aircraft were considered on one sheet of paper with a pencil. Well, well, they planted a couple of calculators for a week. With the use of "Felix". One for two.
        3. +3
          29 August 2020 13: 29
          Quote: Saxahorse
          With an engine of 550 hp accelerating this not thin cucumber to 740 km / h is not a trivial task. And here, by the way, they say that this is a cruising.

          I was also very surprised when I saw earlier - maybe it is in the version with 2 engines?
          .. ran infa: "patent documents describe an aircraft with two engines."
          We will wait for more specifics based on real flights.
        4. +1
          29 August 2020 18: 03
          here, by the way, they say that it is cruising. In principle, I cannot remember piston planes with such a speed.

          It was stated that the resistance was reduced by 59%, due to which the speed could increase.
          1. +6
            29 August 2020 19: 05
            Quote: nickname7
            It was stated that the resistance was reduced by 59%, due to which the speed could increase.

            It could, of course, but 740 km / h is the peak speed of the best piston fighters of the WWII. The fighters are pencil-thick, not every pilot will fit into the cockpit, but engines under 2 thousand hp. and more .. And here such a plump, imposing cucumber quietly claims to be at transonic speeds .. And not even at maximum, but a type of ordinary, cruising. In general, strongly, very much like a marketing exaggeration.
            1. +3
              30 August 2020 01: 29
              HZ, after all, aviation has passed quite a significant way since the war. The combination of new technologies can produce amazing results. This aircraft does not need armor and weapons, new composites are lighter and stronger than materials of the WWII times, a unique layout scheme that makes it possible to increase the efficiency of the pushing propeller, which, by the way, is also not so simple. It looks sooooo interesting.
        5. 0
          31 August 2020 12: 57
          Quote: Saxahorse
          and. And here, by the way, they say that this is a cruising. In principle, I cannot remember piston planes with such a speed.


          Tu-95 830 km / h max. 710 km / h cruising speed.
          1. +1
            31 August 2020 21: 58
            Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
            Tu-95 830 km / h max. 710 km / h cruising speed.

            Tu-95 is generally not piston, all four engines are turboprop.
            1. 0
              1 September 2020 10: 45
              Quote: Saxahorse
              Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
              Tu-95 830 km / h max. 710 km / h cruising speed.

              Tu-95 is generally not piston, all four engines are turboprop.

              Pardonte monsieur, did not pay attention to the "piston":
              The Hawker Sea Fury is one of the fastest single-piston aircraft in history (730-735 km / h), thanks to the Bristol Centaurus XVIII engine (switching to two rows of nine cylinders instead of two rows of seven and increasing the piston stroke).


              And fighters with Napier Saber IIB engines - (24-cylinder H-shaped) approached the 700 km / h barrier - for example, Tempest "Mk.VI.


              Tempest Mk.II with "centaurus" V - 710 km / h
  4. +21
    28 August 2020 18: 19
    Well done, of course, first they created, tested, and only then showed! And not vice versa. Only I'm certainly not an expert at all, but such savings? !!
    1. +9
      28 August 2020 18: 30
      Power 550, and cruising (!) Speed ​​740?
      1. +1
        28 August 2020 18: 43
        The size of the air intake is confusing.
        1. +2
          29 August 2020 13: 31
          Quote: garri-lin
          The size of the air intake is confusing.

          maybe this is a margin for two motor versions? - so as not to redo it later ..
          1. 0
            29 August 2020 23: 26
            I do not know. Combustion plus cooling. It seems not too much, but there is a large cross-section and this despite the fact that the aerodynamics were licked meticulously.
        2. Hog
          -1
          29 August 2020 17: 18
          Exhaust gases enter special nozzle devices, mix with atmospheric air and create additional thrust.

          Read the article did not try?
        3. 0
          31 August 2020 12: 59
          Quote: garri-lin
          Air intake size


          Liquid-cooled piston engine - Cooling radiators must receive sufficient free-flow airflow.
          1. 0
            31 August 2020 16: 52
            This is clear. But they still look a bit big.
  5. +9
    28 August 2020 18: 22
    Of course, there is an opinion that a good thing should be beautiful !!!
    But, the declared characteristics may be so attractive for many !!! pepelats can "shoot" and even take off!
  6. +2
    28 August 2020 18: 28
    The main solutions and technologies of the project are secured by seven patents.
    China is already building a factory. feel
  7. +10
    28 August 2020 18: 28
    [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/q3r0FklxfL4]

    I found the flight video because I was interested in the landing gear.
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 18: 45
      I found the video of the flight, because I was interested in the landing gear

      The pushing screw means the landing speed must be high.
      In the video it is - high landing speed. And the chassis is flimsy - if the plane catches a "goat" during landing, the chassis may not stand it.
      1. +3
        28 August 2020 19: 00
        I absolutely agree !, ya there is a meticulous old man, immediately questions arose about the chassis. Well, maybe some kind of parking sensors will put a landing one. If they have already been in the trolley for a long time as standard.
      2. +7
        28 August 2020 19: 12
        Landing speed has nothing to do with the propeller, it depends on the quality of the wing in the landing configuration. Maximum limitation of the take-off and landing angle due to the possibility of touching the ground
        This fuselage shape and propeller placement really discolor the excellent aerodynamic performance.
        Flimsy landing gear is a distinctive feature of modern business jets; they do not need to land on a primer. And average passenger aircraft have not gone far from business jets, it is impossible to look at ATR 42/72 or CRJ-100/200 racks without pain. Low-profile auto tires look cooler and more solid than on these aircraft, especially on the front pillars.
        1. -5
          28 August 2020 20: 34
          Landing speed has nothing to do with the propeller, it depends on the quality of the wing in the landing configuration.

          Have you heard anything about the evolutionary speed of the aircraft? )))
      3. +3
        28 August 2020 19: 18
        Still wondering how it has flight stability and maneuverability in extreme weather conditions? The car is certainly interesting and deserves respect, or rather the people who worked on it. But anything new raises legitimate safety questions and a healthy dose of skepticism.
      4. 0
        28 August 2020 23: 54
        Yes, here any dive, when landing, will hammer this car into concrete, perhaps there is something that allows you to sharply dump the thrust and level the plane
  8. +16
    28 August 2020 18: 36
    Hats off to developers, if at least some of this is true!
  9. +9
    28 August 2020 18: 53
    Wikipedia on the engine is interesting:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_A03
    He is "German" in 2009 and our 52nd flies on it!
    RED A03 installed in a Yakovlev Yak-52
    1. +2
      28 August 2020 19: 14
      So popular for light aircraft.
      1. +2
        28 August 2020 19: 30
        Exactly, figured out - 8 models are equipped with it.
  10. +18
    28 August 2020 18: 59
    This is not a cucumber, gentlemen, this is a new ideal. To which you need to strive.
    True, I don’t understand why the nose of the fuselage was not made transparent. The review would be improved.
    In general, developers have a credit - you need to be able to "lick" the car. Almost no protruding part. The wing is absolutely clean. The hatches are apparently additionally sealed. So, the declared fuel consumption is probably not as fantastic as it seems.
    1. +1
      29 August 2020 18: 48
      Quote: Kobris
      , this is a new ideal.

      This is the new ideal of marketing BREDA! This "cucumber-bowl" cannot fly at a speed of 740 km / h! By definition! There is nothing to say about the chassis and the flow around surfaces! At least grease with oil, at least remove the chassis! All the same it turns out an advertising miscarriage!
      1. +1
        31 August 2020 20: 10
        By what definition? The adopted constructive decisions, with proper implementation, just allow you to achieve good results.
  11. +3
    28 August 2020 19: 00
    Aerodynamics for aerodynamics sake, a narrow niche aircraft. Alas, in addition to aerodynamic quality, there are a lot of different requirements for civil aviation.
    The creators themselves acknowledge the long road to this technology demonstrator for commercial flights.
    1. +1
      28 August 2020 19: 12
      In addition to aerodynamic quality, there are a lot of different requirements for civil aviation.
      The creators themselves acknowledge the long road to this technology demonstrator to commercial flights ©
      So the creators are a microscopic enterprise. Maybe))) "beginner Ilon Mask", although they do it rather quickly in comparison ...
      Here is their website.
      https://www.ottoaviation.com/
      1. +2
        28 August 2020 19: 20
        This is the point of aircraft certification for commercial flights at this time, a time-consuming and costly event. I don't want to strain my brains remembering Module 10. Aviation legislation Module 10.Aviation Legislation I studied has long since faded in the brain.
        1. 0
          28 August 2020 19: 40
          I agree with you. This does not concern us))) - maybe in the future we will remember this project, with the next news about its certification.
  12. +1
    28 August 2020 19: 04
    Cucumber is the best form.
  13. +2
    28 August 2020 19: 05
    The wing confuses me ...
  14. 0
    28 August 2020 19: 13
    Range shown without payload. With a load - 2 times less. In general, it turned out to be a funny business prop.
  15. D16
    0
    28 August 2020 19: 14
    Investors, OU !!! laughing
  16. +3
    28 August 2020 19: 20
    In the coming years, it will be possible to see how this company will be absorbed by some giant.
  17. -15
    28 August 2020 19: 37
    What kind of fake? Who is this article for?
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  19. +6
    28 August 2020 20: 40
    I like. The plane is beautiful. And it looks comfortable. I can't fly in this class of cars lol but I would fly. good
  20. +3
    28 August 2020 20: 48
    If the numbers are real and it scales to at least 40 seats, this is a real solution for regional aviation in Russia with a poor population.
    1. +2
      28 August 2020 20: 52
      Performance characteristics without load
    2. 0
      31 August 2020 14: 53
      Does not scale directly, but the "square-cube" rule
  21. +2
    28 August 2020 20: 58
    This 12 potted hippo is 13 liters. I do not believe (c)
  22. +3
    28 August 2020 21: 45
    Ugly ... Well, okay. Maybe effective - indeed, licked to a shine.

    But I liked the engine! And few people paid attention to him. Twelve cylinders and sixes can work independently! That's cool!
    That is, one engine can work as two, which I like. With one screw - we will consider that as one and a half (joke, half).
    If we exclude the failure of the pushing screw, then the fault tolerance of the power plant is significantly increased. I like it very much.
    Especially if you feed the cylinders on each side from different tanks (we know that bad fuel eliminates the superiority in the safety of single-engine and twin-engine cars - both will stall from donkey urine, like one).
  23. +4
    28 August 2020 22: 43
    In terms of fuel consumption and passengers, well, just cool, it surpasses any bus with a similar capacity.
  24. +1
    28 August 2020 22: 48

    I took the time to look at their site. They are looking for investments for the project. They promise a truck with D-size pallets, and they promise the military a drone.
  25. +2
    28 August 2020 23: 04
    Evolution for the sake of the middle class
    Struggle for price and economy / ecology
    That is, not faster and cooler (supersonic jet). And cheaper and more comfortable.
    Progress for comfort. This is also progress.
  26. 0
    28 August 2020 23: 53
    Money will decide everything, as always. That is why they did it in complete secrecy. However, I believe that if necessary, the large aircraft manufacturers will pay their lawyers and they will register their patents for something similar.
    Another question is that the business class is now striving for compact supersonic, and not economy of small cars, to which this flying bubble can be ranked. The world is constantly accelerating. Air intercity taxi, medical aid, drug dealer shuttle, etc. - quite possible. But not business class. Other businessmen have yachts like a squadron of such pimples. So whaaa ...
    So, in fifty years, unless of course we kill each other and create really economical engines, on some new principles (something electric, perhaps) and vertical take-off and landing will be incorporated in the design, then yes, it will be possible to sell these cucumbers as new runabout. In the meantime, this is nothing more than a fun startup. A certain amount will probably be made and sold, but there will be no revolution in air travel.
  27. +3
    29 August 2020 01: 34
    The business jet is even cooler.
    Fully electric. Aviation Alice.
    1. +2
      29 August 2020 13: 44
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The business jet is even cooler.
      Fully electric. Aviation Alice.

      again Israeli propaganda spam ...
      and so everyone knows that you only love and promote your own - why once again make people laugh?
      especially since:
      1.this is from a completely different opera.
      2. the time of accumulator electric trains in aviation has not come yet.
      this project cannot compete with kerosene stoves.
      1. 0
        29 August 2020 13: 48
        1) This is the same business jet as in the article.
        Therefore, the comparison is quite appropriate.
        2) Alice already has commercial orders. There is an assembly plant.
        3) Will this project "compete with kerosene stoves"? - time will tell.
        1. +5
          29 August 2020 13: 58
          Quote: voyaka uh
          1) This is the same business jet as in the article.
          Therefore, the comparison is quite appropriate.
          2) Alice already has commercial orders. There is an assembly plant.
          3) Will this project "compete with kerosene stoves"? - time will tell.

          Eviation Alice has not yet made a single flight, unlike the Cucumber Celera.
          And the prototype burned down.
          What are the orders?
          I myself am an electric propulsion enthusiast - but in aviation the time has not come for batteries (the energy density is an order of magnitude less), but it is time for hybrids to appear even in the mass segment.
          I am sure that Celera will be a hybrid after a while.
        2. 0
          31 August 2020 14: 55
          It will be able to compete if the specific capacity of batteries can be increased at least 10-15 times compared to modern ones. Not yet.
  28. +4
    29 August 2020 04: 09
    I like the Selera 500L aircraft, externally, with its laminar aerodynamics and its performance characteristics! good
    Confused in the description only this
    and the flight range is 4500 nautical miles (more than 8300 km).
    ??
    Why is it suddenly a nautical mile (difficulties of a translator who is not familiar with the English system of measures and weights ??! what ), After all, this is an aircraft that flies not only over the sea, but also, mainly, over land ?!

    In the United States, land speeds and distances are measured in statute miles - 1609,34 meters!
    Moreover, the airplane speed has been correctly recalculated!
    So the maximum flight range of 4500 miles is 7242 kilometers, and NOT supposedly "more than 8300"!
    1. +6
      29 August 2020 10: 46
      I would like to point out one point in the context of sea and land miles.
      You and the translator / author of the article may be right.

      You are right if the information about the spmolet is given in an overview for the layman - that is, just its flight range, from point to point, in American terms, in their miles. That is, for overland buyers.

      But in aviation, for example, speed is measured in knots. And this is a nautical mile per hour.
      When I flew the Robinson R44 helicopter, I always kept in mind that a knot is 1,85 km / h, and 100 knots is 185 km / h. And it's the same with miles. No wonder we have retained the term "aeronautics" ... wink
      That is, which miles are given is a question of clarification by the author, and he indicated the sea miles. It's not a mistake.
      1. 0
        29 August 2020 10: 53
        hi Thanks for the answer, RealPilot! Yes
        But in this case, the speed is just recalculated in statute miles 460x1,609 ~ 740 km / h (in nautical miles it would have turned out to be completely unrealistic 852 km / h !!!) and in other early articles on the same related Reporter.Ru, the flight range of the Celera500L is also correctly given in statute miles - "more than 7200 km"!
    2. 0
      30 August 2020 13: 16
      Quote: pishchak
      Why is it suddenly a nautical mile (difficulties of a translator, not familiar with the English system of measures and weights ??! What),


      So in the source - nautical miles.
  29. -1
    29 August 2020 05: 31
    Exhaust gases enter special nozzle devices, mix with atmospheric air and create additional thrust.

    Does the piston engine exhaust create additional thrust? AND! Now I understand why the back of the passenger cars is out of date. Only now they have not guessed to mix with atmospheric air.
    1. +6
      29 August 2020 06: 27
      Quote: Monar
      Does the piston engine exhaust create additional thrust? AND

      Creates, really. Jet exhaust pipes have been used since WWII. Slightly increased traction. On fighters, for every extra km / hour, a fight went on. But the speeds reached on engines of 2000 l / s and more are comparable. With this "pig". Well, I don’t know ... It’s more like a startup with an advertising company with the aim of going to an IPO and raising money, or finding rich sponsors.
      1. 0
        29 August 2020 08: 42
        Slightly increased traction.
        This is how much?
        Well, see for yourself. F1 engines. Up to 1k horses with a volume of 1.6 liters. Can you imagine what is the speed of the outflowing gases? But no one bothers with jet thrust. Although they fight for every km / h.
        1. 0
          29 August 2020 08: 52
          Quote: Monar
          Well, see for yourself. F1 engines. Up to 1k horses with a volume of 1.6 liters. Can you imagine what is the speed of the outflowing gases? But no one bothers with jet thrust. Although they fight for every km / h.

          There, the regulations for the design are very strict. And the additional thrust from the exhaust is permanent, without any problems. To understand this, it is enough to put your hand to the exhaust of something racing (without a jammer). The pressure is more than noticeable there. Another question is that as a percentage of the thrust of the engine itself, these are mere pennies.
          1. +3
            29 August 2020 09: 33
            Quote: Al_lexx
            The pressure is more than noticeable there. Another question is that as a percentage of the thrust of the engine itself, these are mere pennies

            Of course a penny ... who can argue. No more than 10%. But this is a PLUS 10% wink
            1. 0
              29 August 2020 09: 55
              Not more than 10%
              Where are the numbers from?
              1. +1
                29 August 2020 09: 59
                Quote: Monar
                Where are the numbers from?

                Yes, open the Internet "jet exhaust pipes" ... There are books and patents ...
              2. 0
                29 August 2020 19: 58
                Quote: Monar
                Where are the numbers from?

                It's not about specific numbers. In his youth, he was seriously engaged in aircraft modeling. Incl. and he developed and made the engines himself. In two-stroke engines, the intake and exhaust systems are almost half the power. We measured the speed for models with an engine, with a side release and with an engine, with a backward release. All other things being equal, the latter gave an increase of just about 10% of the speed. Even when they prepared a champion card for one kid, they also made it according to the "model aircraft". At least a couple of km / h. but through targeted release we have achieved. True, the release was upward and the gain was in terms of additional pressure on the rear wheels. A bit, but the grip was better. And spoilers in that class were prohibited.
                Again I will repeat myself. The point is not in specific numbers, but in what they are.
            2. 0
              29 August 2020 20: 00
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              Of course a penny ... who can argue. No more than 10%. But this is a PLUS 10%

              What am I talking about? winked
        2. +1
          29 August 2020 10: 12
          In F1, at one time there was a ban on the use of jet thrust from an internal combustion engine (exhaust pipes were installed strictly vertically), then they used the exhaust gas flow to accelerate the air in the rear diffuser, then let the exhaust go under the rear wing, increasing the downforce.
          Now the exhaust turns the turbine, and accordingly leaves all the energy there, and when it is not enough, the turbine is still twisted by an electric motor ... hi
          1. 0
            29 August 2020 16: 52
            then they let the exhaust go under the rear wing, increasing the downforce.

            Explain to me what you mean by this - "downforce"
            1. 0
              29 August 2020 22: 28
              Explain to me what you mean by this - "downforce"
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0_(%D0%B0%D1%8D%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0)
              1. -1
                30 August 2020 07: 37
                It is very original to apply the concept used for a car moving on a road to an airplane flying at a considerable height. In short, you are very wrong.
                1. +3
                  30 August 2020 11: 00
                  It is very original to apply the concept used for a car moving on a road to an airplane flying at a considerable height. In short, you are very wrong.

                  In short, the forces and moments arising from the interaction of an object with an incoming air stream are absolutely independent of the name of this object. request
                  The same forces act on a car moving at a speed of 300 km / h as on an airplane.
                  The difference lies in the fact that aircraft designers seek to lift the plane into the air, and the car is pressed to the ground.
                  Yes, there are nuances when interacting with the underlying surface, for a car they are constant, for an airplane at the time of a flight / landing, but in general, both of them obey the laws of aerodynamics, albeit with different results. hi
                  In general, if you take the trouble to read the previous comments, you will probably notice that it was originally about the increase in speed due to the jet stream of exhaust gases from the engine.
                  PS
                  I suggest not to start "aerodynamic" discussions, because the memory is no longer the same, and there is neither time nor desire to delve into the textbooks of college youth request
                  Regards, Alexey hi
                  1. 0
                    30 August 2020 13: 33
                    Alexey, the speed gain from the piston engine exhaust is negligible. Even in theaters, for design reasons, the exhaust is often made to the side, and not back. As for the car, a treadmill is extremely necessary to simulate its movement on the ground in a wind tunnel, since the current in the clearance determines the position of the front stagnation point. And in your comment I was amused by the invention of a new term, nothing more.
                    Best regards, Sergei hi
          2. 0
            29 August 2020 19: 14
            Quote: AlexTss
            In F1, at one time there was a ban on the use of jet thrust from an internal combustion engine (exhaust pipes were installed strictly vertically)

            As far as I understand, it was about pulling dviguns in front. For a push screw, what difference does it make where the exhaust is directed? The wing and other control surfaces are obviously ahead. Impact is zero.
            1. +1
              29 August 2020 22: 29
              As far as I understand, it was about pulling dviguns in front. For a push screw, what difference does it make where the exhaust is directed? The wing and other control surfaces are obviously ahead. Impact is zero.

              It was about Formula 1 cars.
        3. +1
          31 August 2020 14: 56
          In F1, no deviations from the classic scheme are allowed.
  30. 0
    29 August 2020 07: 53
    A very strange destination. Those who buy their own planes are not particularly worried about the fuel consumption of the aircraft, they have time - money!
    1. +1
      29 August 2020 18: 25
      Those who buy their own private jets are not particularly worried about the fuel consumption of the aircraft.

      Not everyone buys, just as, for example, it is not necessary to buy a tram for travel.
      1. 0
        29 August 2020 20: 01
        Quote: nickname7
        Not everyone buys, just as, for example, it is not necessary to buy a tram for travel.

        This is the first time I hear about business class trams .. lol
        1. 0
          30 August 2020 11: 27
          Why crap in content, if you can use someone else's, for a small fee?
      2. 0
        29 August 2020 20: 04
        Quote: nickname7
        Those who buy their own private jets are not particularly worried about the fuel consumption of the aircraft.

        Not everyone buys, just as, for example, it is not necessary to buy a tram for travel.

        Well, yes, homeless people rent, for flights between garbage dumps!
  31. -2
    29 August 2020 08: 25
    We can be glad for the Americans and wish them success in developing and implementing this technique. It is a pity that our aircraft industry is in complete ass. Only stupid Superjets are forced to buy Russian semi-state airlines under duress. The same unnecessary MC-21 is on the way. Our aircraft industry is a cut of budgetary funds and a continuous almshouse, the purpose of which is to provide work to a mass of poorly qualified workers. More people work in the Russian aircraft industry than in the US aircraft industry. When will we have civil aircraft that are advanced and in demand on international markets?
  32. +2
    29 August 2020 08: 48
    The figures are somehow implausible.
    740 km / h is close to the world records for piston aircraft. Which were achieved by the limiting forcing of such rather large engines like Rolls-Royce Griffon, specially selected fuel mixtures. And then there are only 550 horses - and this figure is due to pure aerodynamics? Hard to believe.
    And then another moment: for piston machines, the cruising speed was always much lower than the maximum. Even at the end of WWII, when the speed of the fighters exceeded 700, the cruising speed was 280-290. It is elementary due to the fact that the frontal resistance grows in proportion to the cube of the speed, plus the non-optimal combustion of the mixture at maximum modes.
  33. +2
    29 August 2020 09: 03
    I wonder how it will plan in case of engine failure
    1. +3
      29 August 2020 10: 17
      With a declared quality of 22 - planning will be gorgeous Yes
  34. 0
    29 August 2020 09: 33
    To reduce gasoline consumption, chemical can be injected. purified water, thus reducing the operating temperature, and this saves weight on the cooling system. Maybe this engine is organized, but the development is still silent.
  35. 0
    29 August 2020 09: 51
    if everything is so in terms of consumption and, most importantly, reliability !!! and these are weather conditions. that's great !!! praise for such work.
  36. -4
    29 August 2020 09: 53
    Patents, you say? .. nude nude ..
  37. -5
    29 August 2020 10: 18
    An airplane for 6 people ... The most useless transport.
  38. 0
    29 August 2020 10: 58
    I wonder what the salt of the patents is. This aerodynamic shape has been used for a long time and successfully. 100 years at least. Take any Boeing. This cucumber looks like this because it is not designed for a large payload, they will begin to increase it and by magic, the body will stretch out and become similar to In the future, they will put a multi-fuel gas turbine on it. In terms of efficiency, they will not be much more voracious, but easier to operate and more powerful. In general, I am confused by the declared ratio of power to speed. Someone is clearly lying.
  39. +1
    29 August 2020 12: 04
    Flight altitude is not specified.
    Previously announced up to 65 feet (000 km)
    which is extremely high for a passenger plane.
    Probably this characteristic is associated with its highest efficiency.
    1. +4
      29 August 2020 12: 06
      I have been following the development of this project for a long time.
      I hope many aspects of this concept will be taken over by other manufacturers, including Russian ones.

      1. Uncompromisingly streamlined shape - the primacy of ideal aerodynamics, all other technical solutions are adjusted for this.
      2.No portholes - allows to lighten and strengthen the structure.
      It also allows you to freely arrange the internal volumes - there is no need to place passengers next to the outer skin. ...
      Accordingly, this will make it possible to make the load-bearing elements and outer walls optimal (often curvilinear) in terms of weight and aerodynamics, and the surfaces of the passenger compartment to be comfortable and habitually straight.
    2. 0
      2 September 2020 11: 07
      Will the specified engine pull 65 feet? Not to mention the rest of life support
      1. +2
        2 September 2020 12: 00
        Quote: Oleg Bykov
        Will the specified engine pull 65 feet? Not to mention the rest of life support


        That's why I wrote that "earlier", that is, now it is silent.
        and "announced", that is, not confirmed.
        and "extremely much," that is, suspicious.
        Quote: Lontus
        Previously announced up to 65 feet (000 km)
        which is extremely high for a passenger plane


        Now there is no official data on the ceiling.
        And this is very interesting and very important.
  40. -6
    29 August 2020 12: 05
    I wonder if we have analogues?
  41. -5
    29 August 2020 12: 56
    If inside this plane there is another fight of Tom Cruise performing an impossible mission, and then he flies off to another hemisphere on it without refueling, the company will get rich. hi
  42. -2
    29 August 2020 13: 06
    We must again prepare the trampoline, alas.

    Despite the fact that there are a lot of people and civil, private, personal aviation in JSA, the emergence of this or a similar model is a matter of a short time.
    Slightly lower speed, but awesome efficiency. due to streamlining and new engines. That and look at the electric transmission.

    All aviation should stock up on trampolines, alas ...
  43. 0
    29 August 2020 14: 27
    A similar arrangement of the engine, if I am not mistaken, 75 years ago was used by the Germans on one of their experimental fighters ...
  44. 0
    29 August 2020 15: 31
    I was especially pleased with the fuel economy. As in a joke: a man bought a limousine with a gold toilet, but does not drive it. "Why don't you ride?" - they ask him. "He eats a lot of gasoline" answers.
  45. +3
    29 August 2020 16: 49
    31 test flights with a total duration of 35 hours were completed.

    And at the same time, the range of 8300 km is confirmed? Stanislavsky is immediately remembered.
  46. 0
    29 August 2020 18: 36
    Against the backdrop of climate change, such aircraft could capture the entire air travel market. The only question is international law.
  47. 0
    29 August 2020 18: 50
    The novelty is relative. According to a similar scheme, the DS-8 (the first with such an index) was designed based on the concept of the XB-42 bomber.
    1. +2
      30 August 2020 12: 41
      Quote: Pavel57
      The novelty is relative. According to a similar scheme, the DS-8 (the first with such an index) was designed based on the concept of the XB-42 bomber.

      I partially agree.
      But the Douglas DC-8 (piston aircraft) was only in the project - it was not in the metal.


      but the Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster was made in 2 copies and really showed high performance due to good aerodynamics and even set records, but the project was paused pending the results of the development of jet aircraft, and then finally stopped.




      The novelty of the Celera 500L is in a successful attempt to bring the idea of ​​improved aerodynamics and maximum lightening to the absolute ideal in a real-life aircraft.

      It flies in contrast to other interesting and promising concepts too !!
      If the calculated characteristics are confirmed in practice, it will be a revolutionary breakthrough in an area where it would seem that they have reached the natural limit, which was confirmed by the similarity of all passenger airliners to each other.
  48. +2
    30 August 2020 00: 07
    An aircraft with such a narrow wing has a VERY small center of gravity, so walking around the cabin is VERY problematic, especially for a small aircraft.
    Interesting solution with independent motor blocks.
    1. +1
      30 August 2020 07: 53
      I waited for an interesting thought, but I still have questions in addition to yours. What kind of takeoff should this cucumber have with such an engine and wings, and I also believe that you can use it only in calm weather, because larger planes almost blow off, and a cucumber has even less chances.
  49. 0
    30 August 2020 08: 29
    No windows, no doors, the room is full of mu .....
  50. 0
    30 August 2020 08: 31
    Well, a freak only Musk could teach such a barrel to fly
  51. +1
    30 August 2020 09: 48
    Maybe I don’t understand something?
    The world speed record for piston fighters was held by the Do-335 with two 1800 l/s engines. And this is 785 km/h.
    And here a plane with one engine of 550 l/s produces almost the same amount, and even practically without wasting gasoline!
    If this is so, then this is not just a breakthrough, but also a world discovery!
    1. +2
      30 August 2020 12: 01
      The speed of 740 km/h is the _design_ speed.

      Quote: Olgerd Gediminovich
      The world speed record for piston fighters was held by the Do-335 with two 1800 l/s engines. And this is 785 km/h.


      Let me google it for you:

      "September 2, 2017, Steve Hinton Jr., riding a modified P-51 Mustang "Voodoo" set a new record of 855,41 km/h (531,53 mph) in the C-1e class (Rare Bear was in the same weight class) .. This record is also the fastest among all propeller-driven piston aircraft."

      "The FAI record for fastest long-range piston engine aircraft is the 2000 km record of 720,13 km/h (447,47 mph) set on 22 May 1948 by Jacqueline Cochran in a P-51C."
      1. +2
        30 August 2020 12: 19
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        "The FAI long-range piston engine aircraft speed record is 2000 km at 720,13 km/h (447,47 mph), set May 22, 1948 by Jacqueline Cochran in a P-51C."

        With a cruising speed of 740 km/h, the Celera 500L should easily break this record.
        We will wait for data obtained in real flights.
        I wonder how close they will be to the stated estimates.
      2. +1
        30 August 2020 12: 47
        But Voodoo is still a racing aircraft.
        Empty inside, modern forced engine.
        And here, it seems, we are talking about a production aircraft that takes a payload.
        And the Do-335 was equipped with 3 cannons and several 250 or 500 kg aerial bombs inside and on the suspension.
        If a couple of aerial bombs had been hung on the Voodoo, it would hardly have achieved such speed.
        1. 0
          30 August 2020 13: 02
          Racing, but this is a P-51 - an airplane with 80-year-old aerodynamics.
          1. 0
            30 August 2020 14: 18
            Well, yes. The model was based on a 51 Mustang P-1944. The plane after 2 serious accidents. Restored in 1980. The filling has been completely replaced. Subsequent owners continued to improve it. Details were not announced. As far as I understand, it still flies to this day. I wish both the plane and the pilots good luck and victories in the future.
            Americans often give rare things a second life and a second breath. This applies to both airplanes and cars. Take the Yak-3U Steadfast, for example. Or the endless reincarnations of the Ford Mustang.
            But, I repeat, racing examples cannot be compared with production samples. The costs of creation and the final goals are completely different.
            1. 0
              30 August 2020 14: 44
              The second record, much more relevant, was set on a production aircraft with a production engine. Although, probably, with the weapon removed and a minimum supply of fuel. In general, the point is that Otto Aviation's promises are not something incredible. Whether they can fulfill them or not - we'll see.
  52. +1
    30 August 2020 12: 23
    And what will the pilot see on takeoff and especially on landing, and can we keep silent about flights to SMU? After all, it will not be test pilots sitting there.
    1. AML
      0
      30 August 2020 15: 55
      Well, that's hardly a problem. With remote cameras, pilots can have a complete overview. In extreme cases, helmets will be used :)
      1. +1
        31 August 2020 07: 55
        Quote: AML
        With remote cameras, pilots can have a complete overview. In extreme cases, helmets will be used

        Until the first discharge of thunderstorm static, and then drive only like a dog - sticking your head out the open window.
        1. AML
          0
          31 August 2020 10: 45
          Life is generally scary. What if an asteroid hits the cabin or a tsunami washes away the runway. What to do? What to do?
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  54. 0
    31 August 2020 00: 52
    How is lift created with such narrow wings? The wing area is very small. They claim that the plane is capable of gliding almost like a glider: due to what?
  55. 0
    31 August 2020 06: 29
    A tail pusher propeller is also used, which does not in any way affect the aerodynamics of the aircraft itself.

    It’s understandable when such nonsense is written in an advertising brochure, but by stupidly rewriting the advertising brochure, the author “got into a puddle”...
    At subsonic speeds, air disturbance is transmitted not only backward along the flow, but also forward (and to the sides, of course). A working propeller creates suction in front of it, and there is the rear part of the fuselage and the tail... So it’s very
    affecting the aerodynamics of the aircraft itself
    !
    In addition, it would be nice to explain to readers what problems the tractor propeller creates for the aerodynamics of an aircraft...
  56. 0
    31 August 2020 07: 31
    Well done! If they can create it why not!
  57. 0
    31 August 2020 08: 59
    no matter what we write here...
    and Musk’s rocket went off, electric cars are selling...etc. and so on.
    and we write everything...
  58. 0
    31 August 2020 10: 00
    Firstly, I seriously doubt the cruising speed of such a barrel with a straight wing. Secondly, the almost symmetrical profile of the fuselage means that it does not create lift, which means that only the slender wing works for this, which means it can only carry its own weight. Thirdly, poor pilots, there is no view from the cockpit at all. How they take off and land when nothing is visible ahead is not at all clear.
    1. +3
      31 August 2020 11: 17
      The main goal of the project is saving. The Celera is in the same category as supposedly modified cars that can reach 100 km on 100g of gasoline. Technology demonstrator. Now they are thinking about how to earn something from this R&D. The minimum program is to attract investor money. I gave examples of failed business jets above; why they suddenly thought that they had invented a perpetual motion machine is unclear.
      The cockpit is most likely digital; in the future they dream of an AI autopilot like an air taxi. In general, the plans are Napoleonic and the tasks of raking are forest.
    2. +1
      31 August 2020 13: 12
      Quote: Engineer
      How they take off and land when nothing is visible ahead is not at all clear.


      On a whim, on a whim brother :)

      Correctly noted, there are still a lot of mistakes in aerodynamics - typical of amateurs who “calculate aerodynamics using a program.”
      “Delight” is caused by the laminar wing of the prototype - since blowing the edge of the wing by taking heat from the engine is unlikely (from a piston engine it is problematic), then heating will be organized from electricity, by gluing thermal mats or introducing it into the load-bearing skin. - this is the end of efficiency
  59. 0
    31 August 2020 12: 07
    It is probably difficult to say that cucumber-type aerodynamics are breakthrough. Quicker
    A greater effect can be expected when using a load-bearing fuselage.
  60. +1
    31 August 2020 12: 17
    It's strange to see this plane. In today's times, this is absolutely incredible. Engineers designed it! At the same time, it is clearly visible that all the latest design technologies and the latest achievements in aerodynamics were used! For 50-60 years now, planes have been “designed” by marketers and bankers, and the engineers can only ensure that the stupid cuttlefish does not fall. And here...
    Just look, someone there, in the USA, will steal from the storerooms a slot circuit developed in the USSR (and bought for pennies in the 90s, despite the desperate resistance of all sorts of academicians there) and use it too! Air transportation has a chance to become cheaper than automobile transportation... However, then the maritime economies will collapse, so it is not very smart to hope, of course.
    About the shortcomings. Super-developed aerodynamics - very, very cool. However, in difficult weather conditions, problems threaten to turn into disasters. Will a relatively weak engine handle powerful headwinds, thunderstorms, and hail?
  61. 0
    31 August 2020 12: 39
    Studies have shown that the Celera 500L has 59% less drag compared to a conventional aircraft of the same size and performance.

    It is doubtful - nothing “revolutionary” is noticeable in the design.

    1. A dubious advantage in the cockpit glazing - the overview is so-so.
    The pilot will be forced to perform visual alignment from the side window, since the tilt of the windshields does not provide sufficient visibility of the runway straight ahead during alignment - complicating landing in difficult weather conditions.
    2. The selected design - a pusher propeller, does not provide additional lift and is less effective at low flight speeds (take-off/landing), a design with a forward propeller arrangement, ensures forced sweeping of aerodynamic surfaces and is more efficient and safe at low speeds. It can be seen that the designers tried to overcome this disadvantage of rear-propeller designs with a disproportionately large (developed) keel - which significantly worsened the aerodynamics.
    3. The horizontal stabilizer, due to the short and large cross-sectional area of ​​the fuselage, falls into the “aerodynamic shadow” of the main wing - i.e. As soon as you slightly change the mode and leave the laminar flow regime (for example, during a sharp evolution in pitch), the horizontal stabilizer falls into a wide unfavorable flow regime.
    In general, the project reeks of rather naive ideas about aerodynamics (probably a digital calculation, without real purging) - an attempt to create an ideal flow around, due to the deterioration of the pilot’s visibility, the control aerodynamic surfaces falling into shading during pitch and heading evolutions.
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      1 September 2020 09: 38
      For the price of one armrest of the pilot's seat, you can install half a hundred external cameras, and create a three-dimensional picture of all-round visibility for the pilot. Moreover, even the simultaneous failure of two thirds of the cameras will have virtually no effect on the quality of the picture. If the trend today is extreme technical backwardness and stupidity, this does not mean that all designers suffer from these diseases...
  62. +1
    31 August 2020 16: 10
    Smells like a scam. Aerodynamics can't influence performance that much. After all, the comparison is not of a brick with a spear, but of basically similar fuselages. I think that the economic effect of aerodynamics is only possible at low speeds. What is indirectly indicated by the straight thin wing, like on a glider. Any turbulence at a speed of 700 km/h. for such a wing it will be very dangerous.
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      1 September 2020 09: 39
      It seems to me that everything here is optimized for a specific route flight mode - with a certain take-off weight (by the way, what?), at a certain speed, altitude, as straight as possible and under ideal weather conditions. In the history of aircraft manufacturing there have been many promising prototypes, including those that actually flew, but after being brought into compliance with operational requirements (if this was possible), the initial outstanding flight data became very mediocre.
  63. 0
    31 August 2020 18: 14
    The engine is diesel, the parameters are quite realistic, if the aerodynamics are good, it will fly quite economically. The maximum speed of 740 km per hour is doubtful. So let it fly...
  64. 0
    31 August 2020 21: 36
    For reference. On August 21, 1989, Lyle Shelton, flying a Rare bear—a modified version of the Grumman F8F "Bearcat"—set the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI) speed record for this class of aircraft. At a distance of 3 km near Las Vegas (Nevada, USA), the plane reached a speed of 850,24 km/h.
    This is about the speed of aircraft with piston engines. And, by the way, the Bercat’s aerodynamics are fine.
    But, really, let's wait until the Celera 500L goes through a full test cycle. With flights at maximum speed, altitude and range. And yet, I continue to assert that its creators worked hard to build an almost ideal aircraft with a propeller propulsion.
  65. 0
    1 September 2020 18: 03
    Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
    Studies have shown that the Celera 500L has 59% less drag compared to a conventional aircraft of the same size and performance.

    It is doubtful - nothing “revolutionary” is noticeable in the design.

    1. A dubious advantage in the cockpit glazing - the overview is so-so.
    The pilot will be forced to perform visual alignment from the side window, since the tilt of the windshields does not provide sufficient visibility of the runway straight ahead during alignment - complicating landing in difficult weather conditions.

    Apparently, it will be new information for you that the pilot performs alignment, holding and touching while looking not straight ahead, but to the left and forward.
  66. 0
    2 September 2020 10: 53
    The layout of this device is more strange than revolutionary.
    The center of gravity of an aircraft with a normal layout should be somewhere closer to the leading edge of the wing.
    If this is the case for this aircraft, then the wing shifted back (apparently the heavy engine at the rear outweighs the long nose) makes this aircraft unstable, it’s just that a large aerodynamic surface with a larger shoulder than the tail is moved forward, and if you just raise or lower the nose too much, this structure will turn over either through the back, or through the stomach (apparently for these reasons, its keel is so large that it does not yaw to the sides). The passenger compartment is moved forward and, when loaded, will greatly shift the alignment towards the nose compared to an empty plane, and the diving moment will need to be compensated by the elevators on the short arm, thereby almost doubling the load.
    A classic aircraft has an angle of attack of 12-15 degrees (with compressed landing gear shock absorbers) during landing or takeoff, but the lower half of the fin does not allow an angle of attack to be created that is half of those indicated above; this aircraft will take off and land due to the mechanization of the wing.
    In short, this “helicopter” will not fly...
  67. 0
    2 September 2020 11: 53
    Due to slightly improved drag, getting such a difference is rather nonsense, especially since at high subsonic speeds, I remember that the efficiency of jet engines is identical to the efficiency of piston engines, and the excellent design of US strategic drones, with similar speeds... ., one could compare the characteristics and it will become clear...
  68. 0
    2 September 2020 12: 37
    This is a real fucking plane!
  69. 0
    3 September 2020 23: 32
    Very interesting. There were many similar projects. But these are the first to reach the implementation stage.
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    7 October 2020 23: 39
    1,85 meters is just right for the gnomes and Chinese, but I will have to make my way half-bent, and Valuev will also cling to his head (((
    America is getting smaller...
  73. 0
    16 October 2020 19: 30
    There is a feeling of crap... and it intensifies when the characteristics are announced... the parameters may differ by some extent BUT not by several times... Time will tell how true the hypotheses are
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