Polish historian: Events in Belarus could lead to a domino effect for Russia

Another article is published in the Polish press, which tells about the Belarusian protest and its possible consequences. Let us remind you that mass protests manifested themselves in Belarus after the main voting day - August 9. The protesters demand the resignation of Alexander Lukashenko and the holding of new elections. Ex-candidate Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, who called herself a “national leader”, is in Lithuania, from where she publishes her video messages to Belarusians and European politicians.

Against this background, the Polish historian and columnist Kazimierz Wojcicki says that the events in Belarus may lead to a domino effect. At the same time, the material talks about Russia.

Wojcicki:

The Kremlin has enough tools to counter Belarus' open withdrawal to the West, but its main concern is the contagious example of an effective popular uprising.

According to Kazimierz Wojcicki, it is worth asking the question of what role Poland plays or can play in this.

This question is answered by the former Polish chargé d'affaires in Belarus Witold Juras. He says that the Polish authorities have recently actually distanced themselves more and more from Belarus, exaggerating only one slogan: while Lukashenka is in power, there is nothing to talk about with Minsk.

Juras:

As the world media indicate, this crisis can be resolved only in contact with Vladimir Putin. But logically, Vladimir Putin is unlikely to want Poland to play a more important role in this dialogue.

In turn, the aforementioned Voichitski writes that the political significance of Belarus is great in relation to Moscow. The author believes that if “Lukashenka’s regime falls” in Belarus, then the Belarusian precedent can reach Russia as well.

The Polish historian gets down to an unexpected question:

If we assume that the Kremlin is afraid of a popular uprising, should the health of Russia's main opposition activist Alexei Navalny be linked to what is happening in Belarus?

Judging by this issue, the West will now try to link these events in their own interests - at least in informational ones.

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[Vend]

Well, dreaming is not harmful, Poles are such dreamers and inventors

[Tatyana]

Polish historian: Events in Belarus could lead to a domino effect for Russia

If Russia keeps silent about the true intentions of Poland towards Belarus and the methods of the West in the fight against Russia and other countries, then certain problems in Russia may also be quite possible. Because the Western training manuals of the Cold War against Russia are the same.
Therefore, Russia should more actively tell the media about the essence of the manifestation of Poland's true interference in the affairs of Belarus.

First of all, the population needs to understand that In politics, the Maidan is not a popular demonstration, as such, but under the guise of a popular demonstration of dissatisfied people in the country, the GOSPEREVOROT is carried out "from above" by representatives from the close circle of the head of state. Those. from the inner circle of Lukashenka himself. And Russia has absolutely nothing to do with it! Namely.

Elections - 2020: #Poland is preparing a coup in Belarus? August 05 2020
Political analyst Oleg Khavich told how Poland interferes in the presidential elections in Belarus. 05.August 2020

[Insurgent]

Quote: Wend

Well, dreaming is not harmful, Poles are such dreamers and inventors

And old dreams, only clothed in new forms.

Intermarium (Polish Międzymorze) is a project of a confederal state that would include Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldavia, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and possibly Finland, put forward by Jozef Pilsudski after the First world war. This confederation was supposed to stretch from the Black and Adriatic Seas to the Baltic, hence the name.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

This confederation was supposed to stretch from the Black and Adriatic Seas to the Baltic, hence the name.

To which the British said "We do not need such a Great Poland, we need Poland bordering on Soviet Russia."

[Insurgent]

Quote: tihonmarine

To which the British said "We do not need such a Great Poland, we need Poland bordering on Soviet Russia."

Now make an allowance for the fact that Great Britain is currently nobody in the world, and there is no name for it.
And all the same Poland, especially with the support of the United States, which has its own vision of the world order, different from that of the British in the first half of the twentieth century, can easily send Britons with their wishes.

Only,stumbling block for the Poles, this is Russia ...
Not only is there no way to move her, but she will not give offense to others either ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: Insurgent

And old dreams, only clothed in new forms.

Intermarium (Polish Międzymorze) is a project of a confederal state that would include Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldavia, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and possibly Finland, put forward by Jozef Pilsudski after the First world war. This confederation was supposed to stretch from the Black and Adriatic Seas to the Baltic, hence the name.

That's all right. And this one the flag with the CROSS in the ranks of the demonstrators is the flag of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania as part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth!
After WWII, no one expelled Poles or Lithuanians from the western regions of Soviet Belarus. They remained there to live and now Polish and Lithuanian nationalists are there separatist "water" as the beginning of the division of the Republic of Belarus is muddied.

Political analyst Oleg Khavich told the video about how Poland interferes in the presidential elections in Belarus, and answered current questions:
- Will Poland sponsor the Belarusian opposition?
- How important is Belarus for Poland?
- Why was Belarus invited to the Lublin Triangle?
July 28 in Lublin Ukraine, Poland and Lithuania announced the creation of the "Lublin Triangle", within the framework of which it is planned to resolve issues of political, economic and social cooperation.
Historically, it was in Lublin in 1569 yeary was concluded a union between Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which created new state - Rzeczpospolita... Therefore, the composition of the participants in the "triangle" practically repeats the borders of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, with the exception of Belarus, whose lands are the modern Polish radical Nazis in the power of Poland - that is, the ideological heirs of the Nazi Pilsudski are trying to annex them to Poland.
- Who will win the presidential elections in Belarus? And why?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

Now make an allowance for the fact that Great Britain is currently nobody in the world, and there is no name for it.

When after WWI France and Britain cut the world, Britain was Great Britain.
And now there are other players on the field, and they will not let Poland realize their ambitions. They can only take away East Prussia and Pomerania.

[Tatyana]

Quote: tihonmarine

When after WWI France and Britain cut the world, Britain was Great Britain. And now there are other players on the field, and they will prevent Poland from realizing its ambitions. They can only take away East Prussia and Pomerania.

The Poles themselves do not think so. Namely.

One side. Indeed, Poland has long been under US external control and has lost all independence.
And on the other hand. Poland's revanchist appetites are only growing.
At the same time, for example, the Polish writer and public figure Wojciech Tsejrowski believes that Warsaw can help Svetlana Tikhanovskaya in gaining recognition from the international community, if Tikhanovskaya promises to return to Poland "primordially Polish lands." And that it is only for the United States - for the curators of Poland itself.

If the external curators of Poland give the order: "Everything, annex Grodno and Brest" - the Poles will be happy to do this

- he said.

See in detail - https://topcor.ru/16193-v-polshe-predlozhili-pomoch-tihanovskoj-v-obmen-na-peredachu-iskonno-polskih-zemel.html?utm_source=politobzor.net

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Tatiana

The Poles themselves do not think so. Namely.

But their Poles and no one will ask. Maybe Catherine the Great and her comrades asked the Poles during the partition of Poland, Adik the rabid also did not ask, grandfather Stalin was the kindest of them, without asking the Poles, he gave them a third of modern Poland, taking away from Germany. But ungrateful and greedy Poles are still not enough.

[Atlas]

Quote: Tatiana

Poles themselves don't think so

They don't think. But Polish politicians from among the nationalists are thinking.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Insurgent

The only stumbling block for the Poles is Russia ...

Poles in the back seat smell that dreams are dreams (another domino effect was invented ), but Russia has an order of magnitude more chances to participate in the next section of Poland.

[nikon7717]

Chuika from this historian. Not downwind. He forgot that do not dig a hole for another, and the domino effect can work on the countries of the European Union. It might accidentally start in Poland.

[Atlas]

Quote: orionvitt

take part in the next section of Poland, Russia has an order of magnitude more chances

The most interesting thing is that history does not teach Poland anything

[boni592807]

tihonmarine (Vlad), Yesterday, 16:41 - " ...To which the British said "We do not need such a Great Poland, we need Poland bordering on Soviet Russia ...".
Insurgent, Yesterday, 16:48, "... Now, make an allowance for the fact that at the moment Great Britain is nobody in the world, and there is no name for it ... And still the same Poland, especially with the support of the United States, which has its own vision of the world order, different from that of the British in the first half of the twentieth century, can send brits with their wishes without any problems ... "

Colleagues, everyone has their own interests and their own NOT friends among the "allies". Only more and smarter to use IT. With regard to Russia they WORK to the fullest. What, now Poland has no problems with its neighbors, historical "debts" and more. Doubtful ...
Examples:
- participation in the partition of Czechoslovakia with Nazi Germany ,
- and "psya krev and" on the territories of the part of the Russian lands that fell under Poland, which became U "Ukraine and Belarus."
- modern - blatant rudeness in relation to Germany, with the confidence that the United States will decide everything ... Well, the United States will not always have the desire and time, funds for Poland, but its historical and current "Wishlist" is always with it. Germany - the state-in as mines have invested a LOT in Poland and after "WISHING" to receive from HER "compensation" for the Second World War, for the VERY intolerant CLEANSING of German lands donated to POLAND by the USSR.
What to do? Maybe start a discussion about Poland's compensation for past and present "merits"(Maidan - At "Ukraine, Bellarusia - Poland's statements about its readiness to" help "it, but to give the" Kemsky volost "because it is the" historical land "of Poland. Remind the maral and material damage from DISCUTE and false DMITRY ... Maybe raise the issue of the return of the former German territories received from the invader (USSR) by force ?!).
You have to work as much as you can wipe off. Poland and that, in the subject and "shakes" the palm tree (Ukraine, Belarus and ...). Whether or not to Do something

[Atlas]

Quote: Insurgent

And dreams are old

Let them dream. Their dreams, based on history, end in tears for them ...

[Pravodel]

I will add to this. It is necessary to constantly return to history and show the essence and attitude of Poland to the Orthodox population of the Rzeczpospolita and the Russian lands occupied by Poland in the 20s. You also need to constantly talk about the reasons for the permanent partition of Poland, indicating that each time Poland was subjected to partition, when its policy began to reach the whole of Europe and Russia.
A constant reminder of the previous chapters can tell a lot for the Poles themselves and for those peoples that Poland now wants to make happy and bless.

[businessv]

Quote: Tatiana

Therefore, Russia should more actively tell the media about the essence of the manifestation of Poland's true interference in the affairs of Belarus.

And then she did not tell where the legs grow from in 13-14 years old! And how did these stories end? The only thing that Russia needs is to make the life of its citizens such that all foreigners, without exception, would like to move to Russia! Europeans should envy the Russians, and not vice versa, only then all those who are currently striving for the EU will rush back. But who will do it and will it do it at all? We have everything for the development of such a scenario, with the exception of the leadership, which would want to lead the revival of Great Russia, and yes, I am not ashamed of pathos in this matter!

[RUSS]

Quote: Wend

Well, dreaming is not harmful, Poles are such dreamers and inventors

The Poles have nothing to do with, the Belarusians entered against Luka not at the call of the Poles and the State Department.

[Pereira]

But the Poles and the State Department are trying to lead the protest.

[Atlas]

They, the Poles, are already leading the protest. The hyena, as always, is trying to grab a piece ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: RUSS

not at the call of the Poles and the State Department.

Aha, they came up with it.
Can you name at least one mess in the world without the participation of the Fashington Regional Committee?

[Vend]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Wend

Well, dreaming is not harmful, Poles are such dreamers and inventors

The Poles have nothing to do with, the Belarusians entered against Luka not at the call of the Poles and the State Department.

Wipe your eyes and you will be happy))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Wend

Wipe your eyes and you will be happy

People who have not gone through this themselves will never understand this. Only when you yourself pass, humiliation, poverty, hunger, devastation - then you begin to appreciate what happened, but it was profiled. I went through this but not in the Belarusian version of the coming out, but where there was no such cruelty and evil.

[Vend]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Wend

Wipe your eyes and you will be happy

People who have not gone through this themselves will never understand this. Only when you yourself pass, humiliation, poverty, hunger, devastation - then you begin to appreciate what happened, but it was profiled. I went through this but not in the Belarusian version of the coming out, but where there was no such cruelty and evil.

I went through it in the 90s in Russia, I don't want to return

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Wend

Poles are such dreamers and inventors

Especially theirs "historians"

[iouris]

Ukraine and Belarus are Russia, so the historian is probably right.

[w70]

If the Russians see that the dictator can be overthrown, they will immediately arrange a revolution. And this is the end of our dear Russian Federation

[Mountain shooter]

And the failed putsch in Belarus will lead to the FAILURE of Navalnyat wishlist in Russia?

[Svarog]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And the failed putsch in Belarus will lead to the FAILURE of Navalnyat wishlist in Russia?

Not surprisingly, as soon as the mass protests began in Belarus, Navalny immediately got poisoned. Are they working ahead of the curve?

[carstorm 11]

taking into account the fact that his clowns immediately dumped from Khabarovsk to Minsk, it is ridiculous to think that he can really interfere with someone. they run everywhere where you can raise the hype. make money. they are not engaged in politics but in business. rivet rollers. call them so that they would get more views. monetize it all. but when it loses the court, it immediately runs to change the legal entity and it is not going to pay. it cannot create a protest. it can ride and use for its purely commercial purposes. not seeing it is very strange.

[Svarog]

Quote: carstorm 11

it cannot create a protest.

And who can?

[carstorm 11]

no idea. probably a charismatic person with a good team and specific goals. Navalny certainly does not have all of this. after the last outburst of his people in Ha, when his representative proposed to organize a strike at the enterprises of the city, it became finally clear that they could not even think of anything themselves.

[Kart]

Certainly not those who whine about everything on the sites.

[Nastia makarova]

only Russian patriots

[Pereira]

Are there many of them left at large?

[Vend]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And the failed putsch in Belarus will lead to the FAILURE of Navalnyat wishlist in Russia?

Not surprisingly, as soon as the mass protests began in Belarus, Navalny immediately got poisoned. Are they working ahead of the curve?

No, Navalny got poisoned because he has to be paid millions in court. So I was blown away. Otherwise, he would not have been released from Russia, he is a debtor

[Svarog]

Quote: Wend

No, Navalny was poisoned, because he has to be paid millions in court

Suicide? I thought a legal entity should, but here specifically Navalny, and even decided to say goodbye to life ... um ... Strange logic and cause-and-effect relationship

[Vend]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Wend

No, Navalny was poisoned, because he has to be paid millions in court

Suicide? I thought a legal entity should, but here specifically Navalny, and even decided to say goodbye to life ... um ... Strange logic and cause-and-effect relationship

No, not his handwriting, it is just that he did not calculate the dose. With him it is always like that, in everything he rests on some stupid unverified information. So he got poisoned.

[Svarog]

Quote: Wend

No, Navalny was poisoned, because he has to be paid millions in court

https://www.rbc.ru/society/26/08/2020/5f46025b9a79473a6cebe1d7?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
Prigozhin has already paid for it.

[Vend]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Wend

No, Navalny was poisoned, because he has to be paid millions in court

https://www.rbc.ru/society/26/08/2020/5f46025b9a79473a6cebe1d7?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
Prigozhin has already paid for it.

He did not pay, but bought it, now Navalny owes Prigozhin, this does not forgive debts)

[carstorm 11]

bailiffs or Prigozhin ... hmm ... it's better to let the state beat out the debts than the one who is called the owner of Wagner's PMC) what do you think?)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Svarog

Not surprisingly, as soon as the mass protests began in Belarus, Navalny immediately got poisoned.

There is no sense in removing Navalny, his adherents have long been calculated, actions have been calculated, let Emelya grind. Moreover, he sits on a hook, how many cases have been filed with him, he needs to be jailed. There is nothing to be afraid of until next spring. If some kind of confusion begins, declare the continuation of the pandemic and quarantine, do not move 100 meters from the house, do not get more than 2 meters, do not come closer than 2 meters, for violation of the arrest.
So now Navalny is not dangerous, and no one needs it.

[Svarog]

Quote: tihonmarine

So now Navalny is not dangerous, and no one needs it.

Now, yes, but before the poisoning it was dangerous .. Nemtsov seemed to kill, too, there was no reason, but they killed .. yes, many people were killed or poisoned .. But a criminal case was brought against Platoshkin .. it is not at all clear why .. Grudinin is being urinated. There is no logic, the elections were over, he lost .. And it is interesting in this regard that, say, in China, nobody is being poisoned .. although relations with the United States are also tense ..
From the point of view of common logic, there is no point in killing, poisoning, planting. And from the point of view of frightened logic, there is a sense.

[carstorm 11]

to whom was he dangerous? to what kind of poisoning?) Why did he suddenly become so dear to you that you even decided to say so without announcing research and conclusions?)

[Maverick78]

Do you seriously think that Nemtsov was nailed on Putin's orders?)

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: Svarog

Nobody is being bullied in China ..

Yes, they are immediately crushing by tanks

[Atlas]

Quote: Alexander Seklitsky

Yes, they are immediately crushing by tanks

First they crush with tanks, and then they work to prevent such situations. And as a result, they created a socio-political form of the state that suits all the inhabitants of China.

[bukhach]

You are sweeping the blizzard dear, polonium was also used out of fright, and the Skripals were terribly afraid. By the way, during the noise about the murder of Politkovskaya, the news of Gaidar's poisoning was lost, but he, unlike her, survived and even made a statement that he considered this attempt on himself during In any case, a deliberate attempt to discredit the authorities. And indeed in the West, all these attempts and murders of certain figures are used very deftly and skillfully for their own purposes, creating from Russia the image of a monster. Old as the world, look for someone who benefits from it and do not fantasize.

[Komissar]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And the failed putsch in Belarus will lead to the FAILURE of Navalnyat wishlist in Russia?

So Eugene for sure! The protests then abruptly subsided .. It seems to have been extinguished, just like Venezuela ..
So the tactics of counteraction have been developed quite well .. We are ready in Russia!

[Pereira]

Ready for what? Extinguish Russians or extinguish oligarchs?

[Komissar]

Quote: Pereira

Ready for what? Extinguish Russians or extinguish oligarchs?

To extinguish liberda. HOW IS YOU? And the liberda feeds on the oligarchs, or you didn't know that ..

[Pereira]

And if we go to extinguish the liberda, which is financed by Gazprom, and the Oligarchs put the Russian Guard against us? Whereas?

[Komissar]

Quote: Pereira

And if we go to extinguish the liberda, which is financed by Gazprom, and the Oligarchs put the Russian Guard against us? Whereas?

Yes, for God's sake .. At the command of "Echo of the State Department" probably .. And how many of you will be "gazinokosilshchikov" on the swamp? We saw you already, over there in Belarus and Khabarovsk
Here in France there is for the idea of ​​urinating .. And you are in Russia, I can only say obscenely for what and whom, etc. Mourn your bulk and get more grants from the US, as potentially "poisoned" .. ha ha ha

[Pereira]

I knew that you would be pinched.
Echo of the State Department / Matza's Ear = Gazprom = Miller = Putin = Russian Guard.
Once again I ask, if Rosgvardia is taken out into the street, on whose side will you be?

[New Year day]

Quote: Pereira

If Rosgvardia is taken out into the street, on which side will you be?

on the side of the rosgvardii- for Putin and his liberal entourage. Brain cancer

[Grandfather]

Quote: Komissar

.We are ready in Russia!

[RUnnm]

For some reason, every time I see your nickname, on the first try I read it as "dedkastrat")))

[Grandfather]

Quote: RUnnm

For some reason, every time I see your nickname, on the first try I read it as "dedkastrat")))

apparently you have a sore subject ...

[Maverick78]

Grandfather, no offense, but I read "dekastraty" for the first time)))

[RUnnm]

An expected and superficial answer. Again, judge everyone by yourself.

[Komissar]

Quote: RUnnm

For some reason, every time I see your nickname, on the first try I read it as "dedkastrat")))

The same thing sometimes comes to mind .. Well, what to take from him a hardened liber (victim of the regime))) has the right and strong support from him in recent years ..
Let it get rid of .. And don't touch it, it will stink))))

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Komissar

So the countermeasures are not bad.

And not only tactics, but also strategy ... Vsepalschiki, ay ... Ruin of the people - is this what you need? Calculate and calculate.

[Atlas]

I hope this tactic will not need to be applied.

[iouris]

Firstly, this is not a "putsch" yet, and secondly, the influence of Navalny himself is greatly exaggerated. Navalny is a screen and a joker, so the disappearance of Navalny does not solve the problem.

[Virus-free crown]

But the Kremlin is really afraid of a "popular uprising" in Russia
One pension reform is worth what ... that even such peaceful people, far from politics, like me, are ready to take to the streets to peaceful protests against pension reform

[ximkim]

If they were afraid, they would not have carried out the pension reform.

[Arthur73]

Yes, there will be no "uprising". For whom? For bulk, who was taken by plane to Germany at someone's expense (how far from the people). For the husband of the billionaire Furgal? Who needs a war in Russia? You? So quickly who Unless you are hiding in Ukraine or in Poland, and not living in the suburbs. But you didn’t go out right away, and you won’t go out, and in general you won’t go beyond the sofa in a small office outside Russia, virtual buzoter

[Fibrizio]

Maybe it's better to ask "against whom"?

[Arthur73]

Fighters for all good against all bad, as a rule, associate all problems with one person in Russia But as shit in the entrances and on the sites at home or themselves or their neighbors, so everything will continue. But one person is to blame. And the problem starts with little. However, it is useless to explain to a troll, imprisoned for inciting protests for all the good against everything bad in Russia. .One thing I will say, there will be no war in Russia, do not wait. And let the buzoters sit in prisons.

[Victorio]

Quote: Arthur73

But as they shit in the entrances and on the playgrounds, either themselves or their neighbors, everything will continue. But one person is to blame.

===
) so it is more difficult to get out at the entrance to clean or drive out / punish the spoilers at the entrance. may arrive. and so you sit at home in front of your computer, peeing as if you are fighting for all the good and against all the bad.

[Quadro]

Quote: Arthur73

Yes, there will be no "uprising". For whom? For bulk, who was taken by plane to Germany at someone's expense (how far from the people). For the husband of the billionaire Furgal? Who needs a war in Russia? You? So quickly who Unless you are hiding in Ukraine or in Poland, and not living in the suburbs. But you didn’t go out right away, and you won’t go out, and in general you won’t go beyond the sofa in a small office outside Russia, virtual buzoter

You conveyed the whole essence of a huge number of regulars in VO :)

[Nastia makarova]

why not yet at the rally ????

[KCA]

Yes, everyone was blown away with protests over the pension reform, who really wants to leave work early and live on retirement? A comrade at 42 managed to retire from the Russian Guard, and what? He plows for a day / three, the plus is that in nature and the brain no one can stand

[Russia without ...]

Well, let him plow without a pension

[KCA]

Yes, I think, maybe without a pension, they raised it several times, but when I retired it was a little more than 10, here's another comrade, a lieutenant colonel of the FSB, his pension is far more than fifty dollars, he would be sad without a pension

[Russia without ...]

Well, how old is this friend?
Did you retire at 40?
And at 60, imagine some kind of turner ..

[Russia without ...]

Maybe of course ..
But he hardly wants

[cost]

comrade, lieutenant colonel of the FSB, his pension is far more than fifty dollars

Let me deeply doubt
I judge by myself - also a lieutenant colonel. 26 years 7 months and 11 days without a side dish (the percentage increase for calculating the VP is maximum) + veterans (since April 1, 2020, veterans have increased by 1,02 times)), no dependents and no disability
Total 36691 rub ... Agree this - not at all "far more than fifty dollars"
So you are a PV, not the FSB, you say. I will answer - one department

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Corona without virus

One pension reform is worth what ... that even such peaceful people, far from politics, like me, are ready to take to the streets to peaceful protests against pension reform

This is what the West is betting on. Read Gene Sharp. Everything starts peacefully, remember "Yanukovych go away." Janek left, and confusion and civil war have been going on for 6 (six!) Years. Scary.

[Komissar]

Quote: tihonmarine

This is what the West is betting on. Read Gene Sharp.

Thank you Vlad, how did you briefly answer this ...

[Komissar]

Quote: Corona without virus

But the Kremlin is really afraid of a "popular uprising" in Russia good
One pension reform is worth what ... that even such peaceful people, far from politics, like me, are ready to take to the streets to peaceful protests against pension reform

Throw off the "bloody regime" and immediately your pensions will be raised like in Europe, you will travel the world, etc. ..? As everything is familiar in the 90s, these slogans (post a photo or so remember?))))))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Komissar

Throw off the "bloody regime" and immediately raise pensions like in Europe, you will travel the world

Some have already dropped the "Janek regime" and are traveling all over the world. Well at least "Karona19" interfered, in my office constantly crowds of "tourists" with a lot of money wanted to go to the construction site or road workers. And now it's quiet, no one is there.

[Motorist]

Quote: Corona without virus

peaceful people far from politics like me - ready to take to the streets for peaceful protests

Crown, hello! I see that the starfall is not ending ... Will the protests be sanctioned by the authorities? You are not an electoral thief, are you? And if they don't give the go-ahead, won't you protest?

[NF68]

Or to the next partition of Poland.

[Doctor]

Or to the next partition of Poland.

The hike is coming to this.
But first, the events in Belarus will lead to the unification of Belarus and Russia.

[Pessimist22]

What awaits Belarus in the west? The same as for Ukraine ... So let them draw conclusions.

[loki565]

Or maybe it is worth linking a lawsuit of 80 lyamas and the sudden "got sick" of the main oppositionist ???)))

[Arthur73]

maybe it just needs to drink less?

[Fibrizio]

Globally, this is not money. Transfer and treatment in Germany is even more expensive.

[loki565]

Well, there was a specific person who paid for it. And from where to collect 80 lyamas? again like donations or schemes with bitcoins, it won't work anymore.

[Svarog]

Quote: loki565

Or maybe it is worth linking a lawsuit of 80 lyamas and the sudden "got sick" of the main oppositionist ???)))

https://yandex.ru/news/story/Peskov_prokommentiroval_vykup_Prigozhinym_dolga_Navalnogo_i_FBK--e0f6e74d69427ce9742aad13a27afe5a?from=main_portal&lang=ru&lr=141175&mlid=1598446068.glob_225.e0f6e74d&msid=1598446767.06377.85231.102965&persistent_id=110296459&stid=UqinGUL8GWXU613viFd1&t=1598446068&utm_medium=topnews_news&utm_source=morda_desktop&wan=1
Here Prigozhin has already solved this issue in a hurry ..

[Maverick78]

Something seems to me that it is better for Lehi that he owes the state ... it's good for you)) And from different Prigozhins hz. what to expect)

[7,62x54]

A "tile effect" may occur. This is when something flies into the pshek's head from behind the fence.

[Olddetractor]

Kazimierz Wojcicki - a Polish storyteller who knows nowhere further

[Atlas]

Quote: Olddetractor

Kazimierz Wojcicki - Polish storyteller

He is not a storyteller. He could only compose this if he was probably "high".

[tihonmarine]

But logically, Vladimir Putin is unlikely to want Poland to play a more important role in this dialogue.

With Poland, to have something to eat with one bowl of shit.

[newcomer]

It is time for the Liakhs to think how not to disappear from the political map of the world for the third time. History taught them nothing. The dream of "Poland from Moz to Mozha" is paid for by the very fact of existence.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: ximkim

If they were afraid, they would not have carried out the pension reform.

Lukashenko, after all, was not afraid to draw himself 80 percent in the elections, but what did it lead to?

For Putin, after all, it's the same to be afraid to put a brief summary of the REAL state in Russia on the table every morning ...

[Astra wild]

Have you checked it yourself? After all, we do not know what is on VV's table. Even if he is served "pink water", he knows what is happening in Belarus, and if he is not down, then he should think at least once: what if it’s the same with us? At least from the instinct of self-preservation, he should be interested in reality.
People like VV have complexity with the understanding of the common people, but they have SELF-PRESERVATION

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Arthur73

Yes, there will be no "uprising". For whom? For bulk, who was taken by plane to Germany at someone's expense (how far from the people). For the husband of the billionaire Furgal? Who needs a war in Russia? You? So quickly who Unless you are hiding in Ukraine or in Poland, and not living in the suburbs. But you didn’t go out right away, and you won’t go out, and in general you won’t go beyond the sofa in a small office outside Russia, virtual buzoter

Read my posts carefully !!!
In 1990, I went out on the streets of Moscow during the "tobacco riot" ... And in August 1991, I was not afraid to take to the streets against the GKchepists

So ... and I will go out to protest against the pension reform - it will not rust for me !!!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Corona without virus

So ... and I will go out to protest against the pension reform - it will not rust for me !!!

Well, what will you marry? Reduce pensions and kick everyone out on them? Does everyone want to retire at 60? Me not

[Campanella]

Everything in life can be. There are 4 years to correct and stabilize the political and economic component.
And the fact that in Russia young growth today is tolerant and it is quite possible to raise it is a fact. No one is surprised by the presence of face-controlled geysebegalovki in Moscow and other establishments of interest.
As stated in the Soviet film
"The pernicious influence of the West" will not lead to good.

[Wolf]

There was one polak, wicked and strong but evil and zombie Zbigniew Bezhinski. He was able, but essentially stupid, worked against himself and his surname. These today's threads to the plinth are just chicken brains. They will destroy both the Polish people and Poland.

[boss]

Another failure of Russia's medium and long-term foreign policy.
Not a single pro-Russian candidate, a crushed bank and an ardent Russophobe for Lukashenka.
Another failure.
People who speak Russian are convinced that they are zmagars and that Russians in general are oppressing them.
Intelligence, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the entire top of the Russian Federation knew perfectly well what was happening in Belarus in recent years.
They received salaries, bonuses, benefits, but there was no result ...
Reduce? To fire?
To deprive of titles and awards?
What should be the punishment if now a bloody wedge is being driven into the generations between the citizens of the union state ?!

[Astra wild]

Have you heard this wisdom: "In hindsight, everyone is strong"? The same A. G DID everything so that there was no pro-Russian leader near Him

[boss]

I don't know how strong you are in hindsight, but I'm not talking about anyone at all, but about specific officials.
And if for them this situation in Belarus requires the inclusion of the hind mind, then they are not competent and do not correspond to their positions.
And not you and not I should be strong with some kinds of minds in this context, but those who are paid for this salary.

[rocket757]

Poland, some kind of dialogue ... with whom, about what ???
Br / E / d implicated in Wishlist and inappropriate ambition.
Send to hell and forget about the whole side there.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Quadro

Quote: Arthur73

Yes, there will be no "uprising". For whom? For bulk, who was taken by plane to Germany at someone's expense (how far from the people). For the husband of the billionaire Furgal? Who needs a war in Russia? You? So quickly who Unless you are hiding in Ukraine or in Poland, and not living in the suburbs. But you didn’t go out right away, and you won’t go out, and in general you won’t go beyond the sofa in a small office outside Russia, virtual buzoter

You conveyed the whole essence of a huge number of regulars in VO :)

And I will convey to you ALL THE WISDOM OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE, concluded in the saying "Live and learn!" well, and the second - "Do not be dashing while it is quiet"

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

why not yet at the rally ????

And what, ALREADY Sobyanin allowed rallies in Moscow ?!

While in Moscow all popular movements are prohibited ... and I am "drowning" for observing the laws of the Russian Federation !!!

Not yet ...

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: KCA

Yes, everyone was blown away with protests over the pension reform, who really wants to leave work early and live on retirement? A comrade at 42 managed to retire from the Russian Guard, and what? He plows for a day / three, the plus is that in nature and the brain no one can stand

The protests against the pension reform have NOT even started yet

[taiga2018]

And so that even close to such as in Belarus there is no need for a good successor, ideally such an ardent anti-Westerner so that in the West they fondly remember about Putin ...

[Prisoner]

Why not - "Events in Belarus can lead to a domino effect for the United States"? Although who will allow them to mess with the owner? Then I can throw a Temko to the historian, "Autumn migration of birds to the south can lead to a domino effect for Russia" or so "Spawning of pink salmon can lead to a domino effect for Russia." Oh, Poles, Poles all dream that Russia will fall apart. I wonder who got infected with these dreams from neighbors or vice versa?

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Corona without virus

One pension reform is worth what ... that even such peaceful people, far from politics, like me, are ready to take to the streets to peaceful protests against pension reform

This is what the West is betting on. Read Gene Sharp. Everything starts peacefully, remember "Yanukovych go away." Janek left, and confusion and civil war have been going on for 6 (six!) Years. Scary.

So Putin did not have to "wake up smartly while it is quiet!"
On his income (and members of the Ozera cooperative) it would not have been reflected ... from the word at all ...

[123456789]

Polish historian: Events in Belarus could lead to a domino effect for Russia

and can not lead to a boomerang effect for Poland? Effective, damn it!

[Atlas]

Quote: 123456789

and can not lead to a boomerang effect for Poland?

They don't think about it. They have one-sided thinking

[1536]

They have nothing to do there in Poland, what do they think and write about Russia all the time? Moreover, they do harm, they say. Maybe they want to enter the Russian Empire with the Kingdom of Poland?

[Atlas]

Quote: 1536

They have nothing to do there in Poland

Polish politicians need to curry favor with their master. They think that in this way they stand on a par with the great world powers.

Quote: 1536

Maybe they want to enter the Russian Empire back into the Kingdom of Poland

Oh well them.

[Alexander X]

You won't wait! Better to go play dominoes than dream of the effect of the same name. Here, after all, the eksrert was found with a large grin.

[rags]

Bigan said after a meeting with Lavrov: - if the version of his poisoning as an oppositionist is confirmed, Washington will take measures against which the reaction of American society to Russian interference in the US presidential elections in 2016 will fade "
Navalny is in the clinic where Yushchenko was treated after the "poisoning"
Draw conclusions

[razved]

It is common for a schizophrenic to wish to pass off as real ...

[sleeve]

From such articles I want to write only: "what a game!" But now it is not already written. Awareness and adequacy are receding further and further into the past. The world trend for science fiction analysts. Moreover, the further the danger of a real military clash with Russia, the bolder the forecasts and conclusions. The knowledge that the "Cursed Mordor" can multiply the whole world by zero, but never will, gives rise to two instruments of the endless bagpipes of "world politics". A terrible and terrible enemy to "unite and arm", trying to dance more harmoniously to the melody of "country" from overseas. Well, the continuous process of dealing with it as something separate, even from the first. Since the first factor is turned into an axiom that does not require proof, then in the second "dance zone" there are no banks at all. Moreover, this enthusiasm is contagious. We are here Belarusians of course touched and hurt. But the mentality of the Russians thanks to their 90s and kindly provided surrounding "reality" with Syria, Ukraine, the Baltic states, etc. o focused not on running around the streets, but more on preparing for defense. And the network "free thought" with oppositional ones (I don't know why I write without quotation marks, I really don't know, I was probably too lazy) only confirms the "separateness" from the main popular idea, measuring its significance by the number of subscribers and likes. Will the Belarusians leave? It's wonderful. We will get up to three million Slavic guest workers with high professionalism. Will not leave, you will have to fulfill the duties of an ally, and not "mow" under the younger. NATO near Smolensk? Yes, I beg you. We must be finished so that troops can stand up on the territory, which is energetically and communicatively dependent on the Russian Federation, painted on our maps and out-of-place in reality. Of course they will "autonomize", but time will pass and money will be spent. And with the first one can see the trouble, since such an arrogant and unprincipled "zhu-zhu" as in the past 10 years of commercials is not easy. Obviously not from the awareness of their own invincibility. Here is something else ...

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Komissar

Quote: Corona without virus

But the Kremlin is really afraid of a "popular uprising" in Russia good
One pension reform is worth what ... that even such peaceful people, far from politics, like me, are ready to take to the streets to peaceful protests against pension reform

Throw off the "bloody regime" and immediately your pensions will be raised like in Europe, you will travel the world, etc. ..? As everything is familiar in the 90s, these slogans (post a photo or so remember?))))))

I even say where when on VO I said that I want to throw off the "bloody regime" ??? !!!

I just repeated, I repeat and I will repeat - the person who has repeatedly declared to the whole world for years that "while he is President" - and then I, personally, I will retire at 60 - for me goes into the category of balabols because on his initiative I will not live up to retirement ... 62-63 years is the maximum I expect to live on

[VIP]

As I understand the logic of the historian: "The Kremlin is afraid of a popular uprising, should the main opposition activist of Russia Alexei Navalny be connected with what is happening in Belarus?" Was Vovan afraid that in Russia it will start the same as in Belarus and hastened to poison Navalny? So Luka, in order to calm the country, has to trash Tikhanovskaya, after all, "the banner of the opposition"?

[cniza]

Yes, it can be two sacred victims and the West will trample them ...

[Cyril G ...]

Against this background, the Polish historian and columnist Kazimierz Wojcicki says that the events in Belarus may lead to a domino effect.

He's right. Maybe dominoes. Commercials will finish badly before the new partition of Poland ...

[silverwolf88]

wishful thinking ... this historian taught history poorly ... as long as there is a strong Leader in Russia ... there will be no swamp performances ... at least get sick ...

[cniza]

The fact of the matter is that for now ... but the system needs to work ...

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: Corona without virus

So ... and I will go out to protest against the pension reform - it will not rust for me !!!

Well, what will you marry? Reduce pensions and kick everyone out on them? Does everyone want to retire at 60? Me not

I want to retire at 60 !!! As the President of Russia promised me for the last 15 years And the rest is me

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Crown without virus

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: Corona without virus

So ... and I will go out to protest against the pension reform - it will not rust for me !!!

Well, what will you marry? Reduce pensions and kick everyone out on them? Does everyone want to retire at 60? Me not

I want to retire at 60 !!! As the President of Russia promised me for the last 15 years And the rest is me

And I have 9 half-money before demobilization, at 62,5 years old. Eh, I would have to endure ...

[Ruswolf]

In my opinion, we need to start talking in a new way.
We all speak together here Poles ... Poles ... so bad and so on.
And the cutlets must be separated from the flies.
Polish government ... Polish government.
The people are not all bad. Remember Jerzy Tyts! He himself first restored the monuments to the Soviet wars, and now became the leader of the Polish memorial society "Kursk".
There are other good people as well.
When we start to be more correct and not confuse the entire Polish people with their government, then in Poland they will really think about it. People will see that we remember the good and what happened - "For two". For the authorities I think it will be in the gut.

[Stas1973]

This is not for Russia. They riot for two months in Khabar, and a month in Eburg. And what? Moreover, in the case the people are protesting, arbitrariness and lawlessness are real both there and there.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Astra wild

Have you checked it yourself? After all, we do not know what is on VV's table. Even if he is served "pink water", he knows what is happening in Belarus, and if he is not down, then he should think at least once: what if it’s the same with us? At least from the instinct of self-preservation, he should be interested in reality.
People like VV have complexity with the understanding of the common people, but they have SELF-PRESERVATION

To be honest ... I opened a jar of Baltica, I eat a fish ...
I am waiting for your thoughts, why did Putin decide that his words did not mean anything? I'm talking about the pension reform? Was it me that for years to the whole world broadcasting repeatedly that while Putin is the President - the retirement age of Russians will not change ?!

[Uma palata]

This lovely Polish man has absolutely charming fantasies about Russia. There is a strong impression that he and the members of his local history circle exist in a certain "Matrix" where our reality cannot penetrate.

[Astra wild]

Quote: Lumpen

Bigan said after a meeting with Lavrov: - if the version of his poisoning as an oppositionist is confirmed, Washington will take measures against which the reaction of American society to Russian interference in the US presidential elections in 2016 will fade "
Navalny is in the clinic where Yushchenko was treated after the "poisoning"
Draw conclusions

In this case, he himself said that Navalny's death is beneficial to them, and V.V. is more profitable than living!

[cniza]

Not just more profitable, but a live one is needed ...

[Incvizitor]

If a Polish historian remembered history, he probably would have said "our dwarf country is in vain to get into the showdown of big guys (even as a leash), because when the hyena of Europe forgot her place in the world, she was always historically divided."

[cniza]

Apparently they like it ...

[cniza]

If we assume that the Kremlin is afraid of a popular uprising, should the health of Russia's main opposition activist Alexei Navalny be linked to what is happening in Belarus?

This oppositionist is the most beneficial for our government, he is like a scarecrow for the people ...

[Radius]

[quote = Lumpen
Navalny is in the clinic where Yushchenko was treated after the "poisoning"
Draw conclusions [/ quote]

Radio operator Kat was also placed in the same clinic, if you remember. Something too many coincidences with this clinic, and all sorts of Russophobes fell in love with it too much :)

[Astra wild]

Was Kat an anti-Soviet woman? When we watched Seventeen Moments of Spring, we all wanted to be like Kat.
All the girls believed that Katya should raise the daughter of a German soldier as her own

[Radius]

I'm not talking about Kat. I'm talking about who used this clinic.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Motorist

Quote: Corona without virus

peaceful people far from politics like me - ready to take to the streets for peaceful protests

Crown, hello! I see that the starfall is not ending ... Will the protests be sanctioned by the authorities? You are not an electoral thief, are you? And if they don't give the go-ahead, won't you protest?

It's yeah !!! How can I stop the "starfall" if a bunch of minuses come to me on any post of mine on any topic - and it doesn't matter what I write

WHILE any rallies are not important for what reason in Moscow by Sobyanin's decrees are prohibited - therefore in Moscow now "peace and grace" ...

Well, as soon as it is resolved, we'll see ... we will not think ahead of what will happen ...

At least 2024 is just around the corner ... well, this is already the most extreme case when the people will be able to legally express their "phi" in 2024

[Motorist]

Quote: Corona without virus

on any of my posts on any topic, a bunch of minuses flies to me - and it doesn't matter what I write

And that is true - even for the comment about the journalist-proofreader. Don't worry, everything will settle down! All the same, press "reply" - the notification does not come.

[ZVS]

To be honest, Putin should look for a successor who will continue the economic path towards the development of the country, and not towards the enrichment of a narrow group of friends and associates of Putin. And Putin should not go to the next term, so as not to displease the population of the country, as happened in Belarus. And the Russian Far East also protested not so much against the arrest of Furgal, but to a greater extent against the unfairly built economic relations within Russia. Putin did not solve the most important problem for the modern world, and especially for Russia - the creation of a just state.

[Astra wild]

And where is the just state now: maybe the United States or some kind of Papuan? Everyone has their own ideas about justice. For Navalny, the United States, but for me, the era of my childhood: the Soviet Union in the 70s

[ZVS]

Only a complete one builds its state according to the patterns of other states.
For some reason, they always turn their thief to the United States in any matter. USA is the crappy state in the world history of development. This parasite state builds its well-being on the problems of other states. Both in essence and in fact, the United States is killing other states, on which it builds its prosperity and superiority.

[north 2]

Quote: Crown without virus

But the Kremlin is really afraid of a "popular uprising" in Russia
One pension reform is worth what ... that even such peaceful people, far from politics, like me, are ready to take to the streets to peaceful protests against pension reform

For many years we have been resting as a family in the sanatorium. Gorky in Kislovodsk. So, last summer there
one lady scolded Putin that she was given a free ticket from the Academy of Sciences, and her husband and grandson
free vouchers were not given. When asked - what, your husband also works or serves in the Russian sphere
science (the sanatorium belongs to the Russian Academy of Sciences), the lady replied that her husband's work is not connected with Russian science, but Putin is still bad, he could give a free ticket to her and her husband and grandson. ...
So from the freebie, the Russians have already become impudent. Subsidies, allowances. it's free, it's at a discount, and I'm not glad that I got a free ticket myself, so let's give my husband and grandson for free. No where so many
freebies, as in Russia, no. And the retirement age in Russia has been raised only now, when it has long been raised in almost all of Europe. And it is just like you and like that lady who will go with Navalny to the Sabbath against Putin. Give you a freebie, and that's it ... Putin and the government are bad if they don't give you ...

[Vdi73]

It is necessary to reunite with Belarus and start kashmarit Poles, and so nightmare that such writers start to shake the chin when looking to the east. The Russian Empire did not wipe them off the face of the earth, but in vain.

[Vlad Pervovich]

it already looks like a persistent inferiority syndrome ...

[Zhevlonenko]

If the opinion of a Polish expert is expressed, then you can omit it, since practice has shown these guys do not understand anything, and even more so within the Russian process.

[Mimino]

Unrolled lips.

[123456789]

Quote: Atlas

Quote: 123456789

and can not lead to a boomerang effect for Poland?

They don't think about it. They have one-sided thinking

Aha! And what about us?