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In Minsk it is possible, in Berlin it is impossible: on the prohibition of meetings in the capital of Germany

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The policy of "double standards" in action: protests were banned in Germany. Her applicant was going to oppose the restrictions imposed by the government due to the pandemic. Although the reasons for protest actions vary, the fact is that the rallies are massive everywhere, and it turns out that it is “possible” in Belarus or Russia, not in “democratic” Western countries ...


Berlin authorities refused to allow several demonstrations against the restrictions due to sanitary and epidemiological safety concerns. The Interior Department attributed its decision to possible violations of the "Corona requirements". As Andreas Geisel of the Berlin administration emphasized, this decision was made not because the authorities want to violate the freedom of assembly, but because of reasons for the safety of citizens from infection.

We are still in the midst of a pandemic with a growing number of infections. You cannot deny it. Therefore, we must weigh the fundamental right to freedom of assembly and the right to integrity of life. We chose life

- the official said.

He also did not give any guarantees that the police would not use force in the event that opponents of the restrictions nevertheless gather on the streets of Berlin. The authorities themselves have already dubbed the "crown-skeptics" "right-wing extremists" and "conspiracy ideologists."

One of the leaders of the protest movement, Attila Hildmann, is currently under investigation for "incitement to hatred." Now, as we can see, those who simply criticize restrictive measures during a pandemic are also included in the ranks of the Nazis.

Interestingly, the “democratic public” represented by German readers generally supported such actions by the Berlin authorities. The same people are calling to take to the streets in Minsk or Moscow and ban mass events in European capitals. Or is the pandemic in the post-Soviet space different, or don't they care about the health of Belarusians and Russians?

Correct decision, but it will probably be perceived by the same people as confirmation of their crude theories,

- writes one of the commentators.

He is echoed by another "human rights champion:

Very well! Let people spread their idiocy on the Internet better.

German leftists and liberals are not embarrassed that their own ideological companions-in-arms are safely going out to destroy monuments to heroes of past centuries on the streets of American, British, French cities. In this case, there seems to be no pandemic, but when it comes to freedom of speech for those categories that do not fit into the boundaries of left-liberal thinking, here the champions of freedom immediately turn into inhabitants of a "disciplinary sanatorium."

One can imagine how the West would have reacted if Alexander Lukashenko had banned all demonstrations in Minsk precisely for reasons of sanitary and epidemiological safety. At the very least, he would be accused of trying to use the pandemic as a pretext to fight the freedom of speech and expression of the will of citizens.

Exactly the same approach would have been in a similar case if we talk about Russia. There is no doubt that the liberal public would blame Lukashenka and Putin for all mortal sins: after all, the fight against “dictators” is much more important for the West than any pandemic.
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  1. Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 26 August 2020 17: 06 New
    +7
    -Because I can, but she can't !! (c) k / f Traffic Inspector.
    1. Komissar
      Komissar 26 August 2020 17: 21 New
      11
      The German leftists and liberals are not embarrassed that their own ideological companions-in-arms are safely going out to destroy monuments to heroes of past centuries on the American streets,

      Or France! In the United States, here is one town completely ravaged for killing a black man with a knife ... Liberals are silent and the "world community" ..So these articles cause only nervous laughter and already hatred of the "liberal community" .. They simply hate Russia and not only abroad , but inside the fifth column is gaining strength! And in the place of the dad, I would have burned this fascist putsch (with flags) with a hot iron .. The Nazis already survived in Belarus and are trying to take power to the Country of partisans and resistance to resistance !!!
      It's time to unite against this Nazi infestation, which is again infected. The West is again preparing legions with crosses against Russia.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 26 August 2020 18: 57 New
        10
        This daddy has been flirting with the liberal community for years. And now I was very surprised at the rallies.
        Everywhere, including on this site, they said for years - it will play out.
        1. krot
          krot 26 August 2020 20: 35 New
          +8
          Liberasien, why are you silent? Where are Navalny's friends?
          These are European savages oppressing free citizens!
    2. newcomer
      newcomer 26 August 2020 18: 15 New
      +7
      Poke your nose and more often, on every occasion. It is necessary to put them in the position of justifying themselves.
      1. dSK
        dSK 26 August 2020 18: 30 New
        0
        German Chancellor Angela Merkel is disappointed that the Russian president Vladimir Putin showed no flexibility after the possible poisoning of opposition leader Alexei Navalny. Bloomberg reported this with reference to two officials close to Merkel.
        Perhaps it was, perhaps not, but I really want to "bend".
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 26 August 2020 18: 43 New
          0
          I do not understand. AND?
        2. cost
          cost 27 August 2020 00: 44 New
          +2
          German Chancellor Angela Merkel is disappointed that Russian President Vladimir Putin has not shown flexibility after the possible poisoning of opposition leader Alexei Navalny

          belay What is it like? Arrived in Omsk, caught Navalny in the city center and in front of passers-by forcefully stuffed rat poison into his mouth?
          Really not flexible laughing
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 26 August 2020 20: 41 New
        +5
        Quote: newbie
        Poke your nose and more often, on every occasion. It is necessary to put them in the position of justifying themselves.

        Poke your nose, you need to there, not here. On the other hand, the information space in the west is sterile. Everything that they don't like, everything "different", just doesn't get there. Any information that is not convenient is simply stopped at the entrance.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 26 August 2020 20: 46 New
          +4
          You did not understand. Our government is constantly in the position of justifying, the benefit of the reasons the West draws on conveyor belts. It's time for our Ministry of Foreign Affairs to poke their noses on every occasion and on all channels of the diplomatic, foreign and electronic media. It's time to pose them.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 26 August 2020 20: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: newbie
            It's time to put them in a pose

            I understood everything perfectly. Putting the west in a pose is possible only with the help of force, for they do not understand human language by definition. You can appeal the truth through any channel, even through diplomatic, even electronic media, whatever you like, but all this will remain unheard. Western media are controlled (I wrote above), and politicians immediately characterize such attempts as a variant of interference in the internal affairs of Europe (the Western community as a whole). And then the stench on the topic "clumsy Russians teach us how to live" begins. Dipping them in their own guano is ineffective, it doesn't smell to them. I agree that it is impossible to be silent, if we speak, then at least with a certain firmness, and not expressing abstract concern. And on occasion, you can give a sniff (I hope that such an opportunity to present myself), so it will be much clearer for them.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 26 August 2020 21: 06 New
              +2
              No, dear. There is no reason to use force yet. We must learn to beat them with their own weapons. You can be sure not only RT is fighting for our position. There are many people who are interested precisely in the firm position of the Foreign Ministry. It helps. People want to see that their point of view about Russia is confirmed by the Foreign Ministry. It is necessary to "litter" the diplomatic space, the media space.
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 26 August 2020 21: 13 New
                +3
                Quote: newbie
                People want to see their point of view about Russia confirmed by the Foreign Ministry

                So I did not understand what kind of people you are, about ours, or about theirs. You must understand what "information space" is. Ours already know very well (who is interested), And the western man in the street is protected from all sides in every possible way, from "unwanted information". But I agree that the position of the Russian Foreign Ministry should be tougher.
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer 26 August 2020 21: 15 New
                  0
                  You said you understood perfectly well. MFA is foreign affairs. For people over the hill, it's mine. There are sites and bloggers there, and even a whole TRK_ do not believe it, right in the states.
                2. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 26 August 2020 21: 54 New
                  +3
                  Gentlemen, please your three kopecks insert? You are absolutely right
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  the Western inhabitant is protected from all sides in every possible way, from "unwanted information".

                  But your opponent is right too
                  Quote: newbie
                  There are many people who are interested precisely in the firm position of the Foreign Ministry. It helps. People want to see that their point of view about Russia is confirmed by the Foreign Ministry. It is necessary to "litter" the diplomatic space, the media space.

                  I communicate a lot with the bourgeoisie - among them there are many people who do not trust bbc / cnn / fox ...., they look at alternative information. Which does not make them pro-Russian at all.
                  I sat down at the table with cheaters - keep the candelabrum at hand ... will have to fight on all fronts
        2. Sharky
          Sharky 26 August 2020 21: 31 New
          +1
          orionvitt
          information space in the west, sterile. Everything that they don't like, everything "different", just doesn't get there. Any information that is not convenient is simply stopped at the entrance.

          Well, don't tell me, dear, maybe I will surprise you, but in the very heart of America lives a simple guy Alex Jones. Disregarding the sterility of the information space. But there are really few such fighters:
          https://www.infowars.com/
  2. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 August 2020 17: 08 New
    -17 qualifying.
    The author of the article apparently is NOT aware that in the spring in Moscow Sobyanin banned all rallies in general because of the coronavirus, and this restriction is still in effect. bully

    Even against the coronavirus, it is impossible to organize a rally in Moscow ... okay, this is garbage ... according to the law signed by Sobyanin, until the restrictions are lifted, you cannot even a rally FOR !!! and in support of Sobyanin conduct ... laughing

    "The Law is harsh - but it is the Law" (c) the ancients wassat
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 26 August 2020 17: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Corona without virus
      "The Law is harsh - but it is the Law" (c) the ancients

      In Minsk it is possible, in Berlin it is impossible: on the prohibition of meetings in the capital of Germany
      Well, rallies in Germany ended badly since the 30s ...
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 26 August 2020 20: 01 New
      +2
      Well, a liberal is not a liberal if all the arrows are not transferred to Russia, Moscow and the GDP, even if the topic is about some kind of Africa laughing
    3. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 27 August 2020 11: 16 New
      +1
      The author of the article apparently is NOT aware that in the spring in Moscow Sobyanin banned all rallies in general because of the coronavirus, and this restriction is still in effect.

      In Melbourne, residents cannot move more than 5 km from their home, a huge fine if they are caught outside this radius. A kind of prison for everyone with a radius of 5 km. There must be a good reason to leave the area so as not to receive a fine.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 27 August 2020 12: 49 New
        -2
        Quote: Alex Justice
        The author of the article apparently is NOT aware that in the spring in Moscow Sobyanin banned all rallies in general because of the coronavirus, and this restriction is still in effect.

        In Melbourne, residents cannot move more than 5 km from their home, a huge fine if they are caught outside this radius. A kind of prison for everyone with a radius of 5 km. There must be a good reason to leave the area so as not to receive a fine.

        Huh !!! You are lucky! good
        In Moscow it was like this - I walked 101 meters away from the house while walking with my dog ​​- a fine of 5000 rubles wassat
        If there are 2 shops next to the house - one roughly 100 meters away, the second 200 meters away - went to the second one, which is 200 meters from the house - a fine of 5000 rubles ... bully
  3. Sibguest
    Sibguest 26 August 2020 17: 11 New
    +1
    As Korotkevich says:
    Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi - What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull.
    In Belarusian: “It’s possible for papa, then dzyakovi zas”. That the priest can be, then the clerk - don't you dare! "
    Or: "What is possible is vayavodze, then not tabe, smurodze." - "What a voivode can do is not for you, stinker."
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 26 August 2020 19: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Sibguest
      Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi - What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull.

      It can be the other way around: What is allowed to the bull is not allowed to Jupiter. God cannot meet with an earthly woman, and therefore Jupiter turned into a bull, kidnapped Europe and entered into a relationship with her. repeat
  4. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 August 2020 17: 11 New
    +7
    One can imagine how the West would react if Alexander Lukashenko banned all demonstrations in Minsk precisely for reasons of sanitary and epidemiological safety.
    Yes, the West would not have reacted in any way. Epidemic, quarantine, and everything would have passed in silence. Lead Lukashenka in quarantine in March, there would be no Maidan. Look how quietly the vote on the Constitution took place in Russia. Everyone sat at home or at work. Violated the quarantine fine, or arrest.
    1. Komissar
      Komissar 26 August 2020 17: 30 New
      0
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Look how quietly the vote on the Constitution took place in Russia. Everyone sat at home or at work. Violated the quarantine fine, or arrest.

      This is not the case Vlad, it's just that the fifth column has sunk to the bottom .. They have NO support from the majority of the population, it's not bad their slippery essence of destroyers of everything began to be unmasked and very literate. Remember how the bulk called the veteran front-line soldier who appeared on TV a slave and others ugly words ..? This case was not left just like that and maybe this "poisoning" is precisely connected with this criminal case about insulting the memory of veterans, etc.
      Such things are tricky ..))))
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 August 2020 08: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Komissar
        This is not the case for Vlad, it's just that the fifth column has sunk to the bottom ... they have no support from the majority of the population

        The majority of the population, yes, but there are still "sorosets" and "tumblers" and there are about a fifth of them.
        Petersburgers began a series of single pickets in support of Alexei Navalny, who is in a coma in an Omsk hospital, a Rosbalt correspondent reports. Campaigns at the metro station "Gostiny Dvor" are being held for the second day. © Photo by IA "Rosbalt", Angela Novoseltseva.


        I am disgusted and ashamed that there are still such people in Russia.
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 26 August 2020 20: 07 New
      -1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      One can imagine how the West would react if Alexander Lukashenko banned all demonstrations in Minsk precisely for reasons of sanitary and epidemiological safety.
      Yes, the West would not have reacted in any way. Epidemic, quarantine, and everything would have passed in silence. Lead Lukashenka in quarantine in March, there would be no Maidan. Look how quietly the vote on the Constitution took place in Russia. Everyone sat at home or at work. Violated the quarantine fine, or arrest.

      And in Russia, in September, United Russia will win a convincing victory in all regions, and so that the people do not overly rejoice and arrange excessive actions of support for the ruling party, they will probably introduce quarantine again, and the National Guard will magnanimously brush aside the annoying admirers of the talent of the permanent leader and his smartest and most honest companions.
  5. Romka
    Romka 26 August 2020 17: 13 New
    -2
    So we don't have coronavirus! "Can you see him? And I can't see him !! This is a quote from the president.
  6. cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 26 August 2020 17: 14 New
    11
    Merkel regime is fierce, urgently Maidan to her, to an angel, long live Bavaria.
  7. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 26 August 2020 17: 16 New
    +2
    Come on, bans ... Whether or not they exist is a matter of legislation.
    But what is in the shoes of the protestors in and not only in Belarus is another question. The coronavirus will not ask according to the law, you went out into the crowd or violate something there.
    The laws must be respected, but it does not interfere with thinking with your head ...
    However, many have a head on their shoulders solely in order to "put food there."
  8. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 26 August 2020 17: 20 New
    +4
    And these people forbid me to pick my nose ?! (from.)
  9. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 26 August 2020 17: 24 New
    +1
    so the same in a free rainbow Europe)) there you need to protect the foundations and no performances for you ... after all, double-dealing ... but they were always like that ... I remember the Munich agreement where they surrendered Czechoslovakia under Adolf pushing him to the East ... Germany of all Europeans ... BUT they only remember the Molotov / Ribentrop Pact ... the Soviet Union was one of the last ... one night about 17 thousand Huguenots - like a saint ??? and so on and so forth ...
  10. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 August 2020 17: 31 New
    -2
    Quote: tihonmarine
    One can imagine how the West would react if Alexander Lukashenko banned all demonstrations in Minsk precisely for reasons of sanitary and epidemiological safety.
    Yes, the West would not have reacted in any way. Epidemic, quarantine, and everything would have passed in silence. Lead Lukashenka in quarantine in March, there would be no Maidan. Look how quietly the vote on the Constitution took place in Russia. Everyone sat at home or at work. Violated the quarantine fine, or arrest.


    I’m just wondering ... For my posts, the vote on amendments to the Constitution was quietly held in Russia only because in Russia all rallies on any topic are still banned - I got 5000+ minuses. wassat

    And you write the same thing in my own words - and they give you plus signs hi

    "Share the secrets of the craft!" (from) drinks
    1. Dart
      Dart 26 August 2020 21: 06 New
      +1
      because I got everyone even earlier ... you can guess what? wink
  11. Lumpen
    Lumpen 26 August 2020 17: 37 New
    -2
    On DW I read an interview with Oksana Shelest, a sociologist: - The "portrait" of the protesters in Belarus, quite objectively, in my opinion.
    1. Romka
      Romka 26 August 2020 18: 29 New
      -5
      Here's a photo of people queuing up to recall their deputy. This is such a new trend in the political life of Belarusians in response to the silence of the authorities on the abuse of people.
      ... Without any sociologists there. But she's right nonetheless.
      1. Lumpen
        Lumpen 26 August 2020 18: 36 New
        -5
        Roma, I am subscribed to Next, and to Belorussia of the brain, and to Belt and to Tut.by, I look and draw my conclusions
        1. Lumpen
          Lumpen 26 August 2020 18: 44 New
          +1
          And another question, how many votes do you need to collect to recall a deputy from you?
          And is there such a legal possibility?
          1. Romka
            Romka 26 August 2020 19: 10 New
            -2
            Of course, there is a possibility (the whole algorithm of actions is described in the article on Tutbai). First you need 150 signatures. At the second stage, 12,5 thousand (everything depends on the number of voters at the polling station). The effect of psychological feeding works more here. It is important for us who disagree, of whom the majority in Belarus are, to know that we are, that we are not giving up.
            1. Lumpen
              Lumpen 26 August 2020 19: 56 New
              +1
              Roma has another question: - to whom of the COP is the greatest trust?
              1. Romka
                Romka 26 August 2020 22: 29 New
                -2
                Latushko. He and Lukashenka are antagonists. Intelligent and collective farm chairman.
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  12. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 26 August 2020 17: 42 New
    +3
    But father had to postpone the elections referring to the virus and during this time to clean up the maydanutyh, but alas, alas .... he is too arrogant, he did not think that some would be sharply against him. Although he is sick with all his heart for his republic.
    1. Lumpen
      Lumpen 26 August 2020 18: 41 New
      +1
      He didn't have to draw 80%, 52 was enough for fidelity, the remaining 48 would be scattered between everyone
  13. raddy13
    raddy13 26 August 2020 17: 43 New
    +3
    When they have already learned to write and edit their writings competently - "Her applicants were going to oppose the restrictions imposed by the government because of the pandemic." Even if the article is good, illiteracy spoils the whole impression!
  14. Stas1973
    Stas1973 26 August 2020 17: 44 New
    0
    Yes. Lukashenko screwed up with the coronavirus. All the elections would be quiet and peaceful. And further. You decided ... Xia. There is no virus in a separate page. Result..
  15. Avior
    Avior 26 August 2020 17: 57 New
    +1
    Hildmann is a famous person.
    A Turkish national, a vegan chef, has been fighting coronavirus fighters since spring.
    .
    Attila Hildman - a former frequenter of talk shows on all TV channels and the creator of his line of vegan products - since the beginning of the pandemic he became a preacher of conspiracy - here is the chipping, and the world government, and the myth that the coronavirus was created to deprive people of freedom

    And about
    ... is currently under investigation in the case of “incitement to hatred”.

    Associated with his approval of Hitler and anti-Semitic remarks.
    .
    A lawsuit begins in Germany to investigate chef Attila Hildman's anti-Semitic claims. This is a popular person in Germany.
    ....
    Hildmann wrote on his website: “Hitler, compared to Merkel, is a blessing. Hitler only wanted to protect his people from the offensive of the Jewish tribe, trying to get compensation after the First World War ".....

    As for me, Polonsky took the wrong person as an example ...
    ... Now, as we can see, those who simply criticize restrictive measures during a pandemic are also included in the ranks of the Nazis.

    Actually, not for that ...
  16. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 August 2020 17: 58 New
    -1
    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Corona without virus
    "The Law is harsh - but it is the Law" (c) the ancients

    In Minsk it is possible, in Berlin it is impossible: on the prohibition of meetings in the capital of Germany
    and also: what is supposed to Jupiter is not supposed to be a bull ... "

    I understand correctly: "roll the barrel" to the fact that it is forbidden to hold a meeting in the capital of Germany - is it allowed to write here ...? repeat And that for six months in the capital of Russia it is forbidden to hold a meeting for any reason - is that impossible ?! laughing
  17. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 August 2020 18: 07 New
    -3
    Quote: Komissar
    The German leftists and liberals are not embarrassed that their own ideological companions-in-arms are safely going out to destroy monuments to heroes of past centuries on the American streets,

    Or France! In the United States, here is one town completely ravaged for killing a black man with a knife ... Liberals are silent and the "world community" ..So these articles cause only nervous laughter and already hatred of the "liberal community" .. They simply hate Russia and not only abroad , but inside the fifth column is gaining strength! And in the place of the dad, I would have burned this fascist putsch (with flags) with a hot iron .. The Nazis already survived in Belarus and are trying to take power to the Country of partisans and resistance to resistance !!!
    It's time to unite against this Nazi infestation, which is again infected. The West is again preparing legions with crosses against Russia.

    I will keep silent for everything else in your post ...
    Just tell me ... why are the people of Belarus in their hands with the OFFICIAL flag of Belarus 1991-1995 associated with fascism in your head ?! am
  18. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 August 2020 18: 13 New
    -5
    Quote: raddy13
    When they have already learned to write and edit their writings competently - "Her applicants were going to oppose the restrictions imposed by the government because of the pandemic." Even if the article is good, illiteracy spoils the whole impression!

    But I offered the Administration of VO my journal (with two Russian language towers and 25+ years of proofreader experience) to get a job here for a quarter of the rate as a literary proofreader bully

    You can see the result yourself ... crying

    Py. Sy. The offer is still valid !!! drinks
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 26 August 2020 19: 14 New
    +3

    How is it that you can shoot unarmed people in Belarus, dad is definitely a tyrant?
    Oh, this is the USA!
    Well then, it's okay, the guy shot himself in the head 7 times .........
  20. nikon7717
    nikon7717 26 August 2020 20: 10 New
    0
    Appointment of a certain circle "developed" from one hegemon, providing super-profits, gives them benefits. But the circle is closed. Any empire that goes over to lies, corruption, etc. degenerates and collapses.
  21. Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 26 August 2020 20: 16 New
    +1
    Merkel hurried with a statement on Navalny
    The German Chancellor made a short statement in which she called on Moscow "to urgently conduct a comprehensive investigation of this case."

    In response, the Russian president should issue a short statement urging Berlin not to hinder the peaceful demonstrations of the hardworking German people.
    newbie (garik)
    Poke your nose and more often, on every occasion. It is necessary to put them in the position of justifying themselves.
  22. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 26 August 2020 20: 24 New
    0
    I propose to help in the organization, to pay whoever needs it, to throw in cocktail recipes.
  23. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 August 2020 21: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Dart
    because I got everyone even earlier ... you can guess what? wink

    By the fact that I believe that in Russia one should live according to the laws of Russia ?! repeat
  24. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 26 August 2020 22: 13 New
    0
    And the FRG ambassador is poorly summoned to the Foreign Ministry. We will play it out in non-interference. This our decency is perceived as weakness. Maybe enough to play spillikins. China launched two rackets, sent a signal to you. The world smells like a kyroshin! winked
  25. Kizey
    Kizey 27 August 2020 06: 44 New
    0
    have you changed your profile yet? military news was, and now where you do not look only politics ... and cover unilaterally. leave a choice for the readers themselves what to think about this or that news? I used to read your news every morning, but now I'm getting bored to be honest.
  26. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 27 August 2020 16: 53 New
    0
    Remember what struck on May 9. How Lukashenka “destroys” his people during a pandemic.