"We must conclude a deal with Russia and produce the S-500 at home": India reacts to tests of the latest air defense system

State tests of the new Russian air-missile defense system (air defense-missile defense) of long-range interception S-500 "Prometheus" have begun. On Monday, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told reporters at the Army-2020 International Forum.

This message received the closest attention in New Delhi, and the IDN edition published on its pages a long article on Russian development.

The Indian press writes that, according to Yuri Borisov, preparations are in full swing for the launch of a new anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) into serial production.

Prior to this, Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Alexei Krivoruchko reported that the arrival of the first S-500 complexes to the troops is planned for 2021, and serial deliveries to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation should take place in 2025.

The S-500 Prometey anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) is a representative of a new generation of long-range surface-to-air weapons. It is designed to intercept targets at high altitudes and is capable of effectively fighting ballistic missiles, hitting them at any point in the trajectory. It is anti-space weapon, capable of neutralizing enemy missiles and satellites at an altitude of 200 (!) kilometers within a radius of up to 600 kilometers.

In a commentary to an article published by an Indian publication, one of the readers wrote that New Delhi must independently produce such weapons under a Russian license:

We need to make a deal (with Russia) and make the S-500 air defense system in India.

Another comment on the IDN article on the S-500:

Will India, with its vast mind-boggling experience in matters of prudence, bureaucratic procrastination and idleness, ever cope with the situation, discarding its usual lethargy and quickly negotiate the purchase of the S-500?

Comments

[Wedmak]

We need to make a deal (with Russia) and make the S-500 air defense system in India.

Urgently! High power lip-rolling machine for this gentleman!

[marchcat]

I just want to tell the Indians, but your face will not crack?

[KAV]

We need to make a deal (with Russia) and make the S-500 air defense system in India.

Can they also give them the keys to the apartment, where is the money? Their ambitions are normal, however, they are often not justified ... How many joint projects they were offered - they turned up their noses. And now they suddenly wanted a deal. Yeah.

[military_cat]

I don't know who is reacting there, but India knocked the satellite out of orbit with its own missile defense system. Russia, by the way, is not yet.

[Maikcg]

Russia was doing this as satellites-killers 40 years ago. And more than half a century has passed with rockets, so it's low. Anyway, it is impolite to litter the orbit with fragments of "downing".

[military_cat]

I wonder why I do not doubt for a second that if Russia had tested an anti-missile missile, knocking down a satellite with a direct blow on an upward course, then domestic commentators would immediately stop portraying Gret Thunberg and worry about cluttering the orbit with debris.

[krot]

Naive Indian guys ..)

[Alex777]

I wonder why I don't doubt for a second

Doubt - you need to be able to.

[military_cat]

Quote: Alex777

Doubt - you need to be able to.

Let me doubt it.

[Maikcg]

The US Air Force Space Command claims that Russia (15.04.20/XNUMX/XNUMX) tested a direct intercept anti-satellite missile. "The Russian test of the DA-ASAT (direct intercept anti-satellite missile) shows another example that the threats to the space systems of the United States and allies are real, serious and growing," said John Raymond, head of the US Air Force's space command.
The report notes that the United States is ready to "contain aggression and protect the nation", allies and interests of the United States from hostile actions in space.

It's too bad to litter the orbit with test waste!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: MaikCG

it is impolite to litter the orbit with debris of "downing".

Moreover, it is a cosmic sin.
And jokes aside, if they start to "beat the pots" in orbits, then after all the losing side will be obliged to clean out the near-earth space. If the losing side ... hmm ... accidentally does not remain, then the winner is harnessed. But you should clean up anyway.

[Alf]

Quote: Paranoid50

If the losing side ... hmm ... accidentally does not remain, then the winner is harnessed.

Museum visitors examine the statue without arms, legs and head.
The guide is the statue of the winner.
Tourist - I can imagine what a defeated person looks like in this case ...

[Alf]

Quote: military_cat

I don't know who is reacting there, but India knocked the satellite out of orbit with its own missile defense system.

Well done Indians. That's just then the question is, why don't you need our ABM and PKO systems?

[military_cat]

Quote: Alf

Well done Indians. That's just then the question is, why don't you need our ABM and PKO systems?

Perhaps, in the comments to the article on which this article was written on VO, Indian liberals dug in, who simply hate everything Indian. In general, the review of comments is a strange genre, I think.

[Alf]

Quote: military_cat

Indian liberals who just hate everything Indian.

To admire the Indian, one must have this very Indian, and with this in India the hollow is empty.

Quote: military_cat

In general, the review of comments is a strange genre, I think.

So why are you participating in it?

[Dod Income]

probably it is possible if a cow flash drive is inserted into the device

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Wedmak

Urgently! High power lip-rolling machine for this gentleman!

Please

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Lipchanin

Please

You are a sadist, my friend ... It hurts!

[Alf]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: Lipchanin

Please

You are a sadist, my friend ... It hurts!

But effective and intelligible.

[pipetro]

Increased power looks like this

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pipetro

Increased power looks like this

Yes, this is already for group use

[orionvitt]

Judging by the functionality, it is just the opposite, a "lip rolling" machine. And the Indians, and so the lip hoo.

[Kazimirsat]

[NEXUS]

Quote: Wedmak

Urgently! High power lip-rolling machine for this gentleman!

That is, it never occurs to the Indians that they will not receive this technology for another 50 years?

[newcomer]

Well, what are you, the Indians intended to lift the plane of the 5th generation into the sky by 25 g. Apparently, poor animals will be lifted on elephants.

[Maikcg]

The tortoise is even more difficult.

[Voyager]

But the plane can be called Dumbo.

[Zorro21]

Quote: NEXUS

That is, it never occurs to the Indians that they will not receive this technology.

First you need to think about how much the S-500 differs from the S-400. Obviously, by as much as the S-400 differs from the S-300 of the extreme modification - i.e. not important. Consequently, with the supply of appropriate missiles and a small upgrade, the S-400 will not be much inferior to the S-500. Moreover, from the very beginning of the design in the early 2000s, the air defense system of the new generation of the Ministry of Defense immediately set too ambitious performance characteristics of the S-500. Therefore, the S-400 has become a kind of intermediate option in the implementation of the strategy of a unified aerospace defense. In addition, you need to understand that no air defense system can be on its own, an integrated aerospace defense system with all accompanying components must always be built, otherwise any air defense system turns into an easy target.

[Vlad.by]

Oh, I'm not sure that the radar weapons, signal processing algorithms are the same. Still, the difference of 15-20 years in development is significant. During this period, there was a breakthrough in the mathematics of radar. Compared to 60s and 70s math

[NEXUS]

Quote: Zorro21

First you need to think how much the S-500 differs from the S-400. Obviously, by as much as the S-400 differs from the S-300 of the extreme modification - i.e. not important.

How did you drink such a deep thought? Prometheus is the FIRST anti-space defense complex in the world. There is no Triumph of extreme modification, nor the S-300V4 are even close to Prometheus in terms of performance characteristics. In addition, it is stated that the S-500 will be capable of intercepting high-speed maneuvering targets. What the devil is "not important"?
To understand what nonsense they wrote, let's imagine a comparison of Tunguska and Triumph. This is what you compared about the same idiocy.

Quote: Zorro21

otherwise, any air defense system turns into an easy target.

This is the meaning of the ESCHELONED missile defense and air defense system. And each complex is responsible for its own decision-making radius.

[Svarog]

Will India, with its vast mind-boggling experience in matters of prudence, bureaucratic procrastination and idleness, ever cope with the situation, discarding its usual lethargy and quickly negotiate the purchase of the S-500?

Of course he cannot .. and then, to them and to all other potential buyers and from -400 for the eyes. And if they want from -500, then there must be a requirement, all weapons to be bought in Russia ..

[Lipchanin]

We need to make a deal (with Russia) and make the S-500 air defense system in India.

Also to me "manufacturers" are crooked

[Runoway]

Only after the transfer of technology for the production of whitman

[Alf]

Quote: Runoway

Only after the transfer of technology for the production of whitman

Wiman.

[Runoway]

The carved views were

[Livonetc]

Let them do it.
But after 40 years.

[Reserve buildbat]

And who said that we will sell the S-500 to dancers in the next 5-10 years? And about "doing in India" - they even managed to spoil the "Kalashnikov", not to mention tanks and planes. What is the release of the S-500? Maximum - let them do the balloon keys for Arcelor Mittal.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Stroibat stock

And who said that we will sell the S-500 to dancers in the next 5-10 years?

Well, the Turks did not plan to sell the C400 either, but given the appetites of our bureaucrats, it is possible that the C500 will face the same fate.

[Kart]

Oh, these bureaucrats. They just get in the way.
And the poor, disadvantaged people gather in the basements of the S-400 in secret from the bloody regime and greedy bureaucrats.
But they still find, take, sell, and then spend on drink.
I wish we could take everything away from them and take a walk from the belly ourselves.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Carte

But they still find, take, sell, and then spend on drink.
I wish we could take everything away from them and take a walk from the belly ourselves.

That's it from the belly. Do you know how much an engineer of NPO Granit gets, for example, who goes to the proving grounds of these very complexes, without seeing the family for six months and living all this time in field conditions?
- Miserable pennies, but all the rest of the loot and saw these same bureaucrats.

[72jora72]

And who said that we will sell the S-500 to dancers in the next 5-10 years?

That's right, we'd better sell to the Turks, ......... on credit, .......... interest-free .....

[Al_lexx]

"Another comment on the IDN article about the S-500" amused, with its unprecedented accuracy, in the assessment of our Indian partners.

[Lipchanin]

Can India, with its vast mind-boggling experience in matters of prudence, bureaucratic delays and idleness,

The best performance you can imagine

[taiga2018]

If Washington allows you ...

[Harry cuper]

They are strange guys, these Indians. For some reason, they are sure that they can independently develop and produce 5th generation fighters, the latest air defense systems and other high-tech things.

[horus88]

So they do not say that they will develop the c500 themselves. They want us to transfer the technology to them, and then they will start riveting ... It's a pity that no one will give them anything.

[Yuriy71]

Their interplanetary station, by the way, has already flown to Mars! And she passed on a lot of interesting material! Therefore, your skepticism is from ignorance of their capabilities!

[Kart]

sis.
Skepticism.
It is he who arises from the demonstration of your ability to express your judgments.

[Dva parovoza]

Well, if skepticism - through Z, then yes, of course, there is nothing to argue about ...

[Andy]

according to leading experts, the c500 has an extremely low export potential due to low efficiency: songs and dances were not included in the algorithm of its work even at the initial level

[Igool]

Is it okay if the Indians export only a block of songs and dances? If they invest, we can even develop it personally for them.

[raddy13]

Another nonsense - "... is able to effectively deal with ballistic missiles, hitting them at any point of the trajectory" And will finish it at 5000 km? or just swung at 11000? Within a radius of 600 km there can be only OTRs, then only "... at any point of the trajectory"

[Igool]

You probably forgot how to read. In the same paragraph below:

It is an anti-space weapon capable of neutralizing enemy missiles and satellites at an altitude of 200 (!) Kilometers within a radius of up to 600 kilometers.

And any point on the trajectory indicates that if a launch occurs in this space, either there is a missile or a warhead. In my opinion it is obvious

[Normal]

Oh, just not with these gypsies. Then they will start twisting their hands again, asking to transfer technology to them. Unreliable partners.

[garik77]

These gypsies are cool. They have already mastered tanks and aircraft. The only thing left is to make the Russians give them all their technology.

[Yuriy71]

If Russia leads to the persuasions and promises of these Most cunning masters, it will be her Greatest mistake!

[rocket757]

There is nothing to discuss here, both for now and later.

[Komissar]

Hindus have rolled their lips! Buy the S-400, and we'll keep the 500 for now, too dangerous and formidable weapon of defense! And the military Indians became famous throughout the world for their slovenliness ..

Quote: rocket757

There is nothing to discuss here, both for now and later.

Briefly and clearly Victor !!!!

[jovanni]

In a commentary to an article published by an Indian publication, one of the readers wrote that New Delhi must independently produce such weapons under a Russian license:

Is it true, so how can I give it ?!

[Ryusei]

Figs with butter named S-500!

[kill the fascist]

India, of course, is our partner on many issues, but ... in India you can only print advertising brochures for the 500 complex

[Igool]

And then with great care, because here, too, nothing can come out of joint cooperation

[Sibguest]

No problem - shanovni Hindusi!
As soon as we begin state tests of the S-800, we can talk about the release of the S-500 from you.
In the meantime .... Pokedova - bear with it.

[Wwk7260]

comments on India are the third most important for the most zealous commentators ........ on VO, after F35 and Ukraine.

[Igool]

Well, finally, the statistics came in time, and we didn’t know what to do without you. It was completely confused, but now, with the knowledge received from you, only forward, only with songs and only with dances

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Wwk7260

comments on India are the third most important for the most zealous commentators ........ on VO, after F35 and Ukraine.

You did not mark Israel.

[Wwk7260]

there is a separate zone, out of competition, it is controlled by Meehan (Vitalik).

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Wwk7260

there is a separate zone, out of competition, it is controlled by Meehan (Vitalik).

Clear. So to speak, "separated into a separate court proceeding"

[sergo1914]

AvtoVAZ: Indians, look at our beautiful but reliable cars ...

[alien308]

Of course there is money, but the Indian toad is stronger.

[dima314]

I almost fell))) And what will the turkeys pull to do the S-400? Where are they S-500)) They would have to master the C-125, in the latest version, to begin with)

[datur]

Indians are our gypsies !! Believe them not to respect themselves!

[Joker62]

Quote: KAV

We need to make a deal (with Russia) and make the S-500 air defense system in India.

Can they also give them the keys to the apartment, where is the money? Their ambitions are normal, however, they are often not justified ... How many joint projects they were offered - they turned up their noses. And now they suddenly wanted a deal. Yeah.

Duc, they are like gypsies in the bazaar ... until they dance with tambourines, and in addition to a fried rooster, only then they start thinking whether to buy or not ... They have already hacked many projects from Russia ... and everyone wants many and in one pile ...

[Paramon Pictures]

Do you need anything else from underwear? The smartest, or what?

[Adam Khomich]

I remember at the time of EBN, the Americans bought the technology made by the RD-180. So what? They still buy these engines in Khimki. Why?
"The supply of high-pressure kerosene in an oxygen-enriched environment leads to instant destruction of the most stable alloys. The RD-180 engine consumes about 1 tons of fuel per second, which is supplied by a 25 kilowatt turbo pump, which exceeds the power of the reactor of the atomic icebreaker" Arctic "more than twice. That is, in one chamber with a diameter of only 180 millimeters, a little more than 000 tons of fuel per second burns, releasing gigantic energy, which modern American technologies will not be able to control for a long time."
For this reason, they were unable to launch the production of the RD-180 in the United States.

[zwlad]

Are we ready to sell them the S-500?
Moreover, a license?
Maybe they will buy 57 su-100 pieces first?

[Kuzmitsky]

Most likely, it will be something like this. First, they will buy several of these S-500 units, and after a while they will begin to persuade them to sell them a production license. With tank planes, they somehow act like that from time to time.

[aszzz888]

"We must make a deal with Russia and produce the S-500 at home"

And where are the elephants?

[here]

And what is so modest? You could also ask your wife to use it with a promise to return "with interest."

[Kuzmich Sibiryakov]

Hindus behave like Buridanov's donkey, walking between two haystacks, not deciding which haystack to eat, dead of hunger.
Who will sell them a license? They have not yet stepped over the step of the S-300 complex. You need to start small.

[Vdi73]

The S-500 just can't be sold for a while, but India, as always, wants to eat a fish, dreamers. Although I do not exclude that the S-500 will begin to sell quickly, we also have greedy, insatiable types who are ready to trade with their backs, and money would stick to their hands.

[Shadow041]

India cooperates with the United States, so it is not profitable to transfer the secrets of production of the S-500 air defense system of the Russian Federation to the Indians, the risk of information leakage is too great

[Pamir]

Why do Indians need C-500, they have C400 for their eyes. C400 is an excellent system for developing countries. And they see all the pills because of greed and more, more. C400 needs to be mastered for years and decades, the Syrians with ZRPK Shell cannot get used to, they manage to lose. Any system Air defense missile defense by itself does not work, it must be mastered, and a bunch of highly specialized high-class military specialists for years. They think if the C500 is all, he will do everything for them, but no guys, Indians, they will hunt elephants with this system, or substituted in the very first confrontation. It's like a rich amateur driver, get into a Formula One car, and think about yourself, a ready champion. The S400 will be enough to study them for 40 years.