TsNIITOCHMASH showed a new surveillance device for scouts

TsNIITOCHMASH presented a new generation sighting and rangefinder device - PDU-2020 during the Army-5 forum. This was reported by the press service of Rostec.

According to Dmitry Trigolos, head of the research department of weapons and artillery control systems of the Ground Forces and Airborne Forces of JSC TsNIITOCHMASH, the all-weather reconnaissance device PDU-5 increases the probability of detecting camouflaged targets. The device is all-weather, can be used at any time of the day, as well as in conditions of limited visibility.

The device can take photographs and filming of objects, measure the distance and angular coordinates to various objects, calculate the Cartesian coordinates of objects, transmit the measured coordinates of a formalized type and a photograph of an object via a USB channel to the consumer, solve other problems

- says the description.

The developers clarify that the PDU-5 device continues the line of sighting and rangefinder devices. Detection and recognition of camouflaged objects at any time of the day is provided by: daytime - optical and thermal imaging observation channels; at night and in conditions of limited visibility - with combined television, thermal imaging and night image intensifier tubes.

The device is presented to the general public and specialists for the first time.

Comments

[Piramidon]

All this, of course, is good. The developers are great, honor and praise. But, the main question is, on what element base is all this going? Will not the supply of all these transistors-thyristors-microcircuits be cut off by sanctions at the right time ...?

[g1washntwn]

Ruselectronics alone provides half of all products. For MO, serial contracts without full localization are now rather an exception. If it were otherwise, the prime cost of the Armata would be at the level of Cherie Tigo.

[Piramidon]

Quote: g1washntwn

Ruselectronics alone provides half of all products.

And who is the other half? What I mean is that, of course, it is difficult to establish production of everything-and-everything in one country. We are far from the USSR. But, in case you missed, I asked a question about suppliers and their loyalty to the Russian Federation. Whose element base is all this made on?

[g1washntwn]

Quote: Piramidon

And who is the other half?

The holding is not alone, private commerce is also present and there are the same requirements from the MO as to everyone else.

Quote: Piramidon

about suppliers and their loyalty to the Russian Federation

Those who are not loyal impose their own sanctions. Neutrals only care about profit and mutually beneficial technology exchange. Those masquerading as loyal are the concern of the relevant authorities.
We are talking about the defense industry, and in order to overwhelm someone else's consumer civilian market with their products, everyone is now gnawing each other's throats. We will not go to self-isolation, no electrical tape will be enough to isolate us from technology by force. So we get such ridiculous laws in the United States with which they slipped into sanctions on Russian defense enterprises.

[BAI]

night image intensifier channels.

We produce electro-optical converters, but of poor quality - for such devices you have to manually select one of seven. The American ones are better, but they have been under sanctions since 2008.

[Fibrizio]

This is a fact, for example, Dedal on imported image intensifier tubes costs very different money than its counterpart with a domestic one. Although the model is formally the same.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Piramidon

Will not the supply of all these transistors-thyristors-microcircuits be cut off by sanctions at the right time ...?

Military devices ... Yes, a direct instruction not to use anything "foreign", if earlier it was allowed, in exceptional cases ... then it has long been a direct ban. We supply equipment to such enterprises, and in the equipment there are very strict restrictions on the use of imported equipment.

[venik]

"...Detection and recognition of camouflaged objects at any time of the day is provided: during the day - optical and thermal imaging observation channels; at night and in conditions of limited visibility - combined TV, thermal imaging and night image intensifier channels. ... "
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The right thing and useful!

[paco.soto]

Here's a good overview on the topic:
https://spec-naz.org/index.php?/topic/5879/
Everything can already be purchased in sufficient quantities. And about the fact that "give a lot of funding" and it is possible to do it from scratch and only on Russian components - unfortunately, I don’t believe in the power of my education and knowledge.

[APASUS]

As I understand it, it is something like a multifunctional thermal imaging binoculars JIM LR from Sagem (France)?

[Al_lexx]

I wonder what operating system is stitched into it?

[lucul]

TsNIITOCHMASH showed a new surveillance device for scouts

It is highly desirable for each platoon commander to have such a device. I'm already silent about the BMP / BTR, everything is much more powerful (built-in) there.
Roughly speaking, these are eyes ...

[Fibrizio]

I think our heavy equipment does not always have greenhouses of this level. And they have huge boxes.
So the troops are unlikely to see him soon amid the crisis. Only if toys and special forces are bought for the Chechens (although I think they have already acquired their own personal ones).

[Fibrizio]

Quote: Piramidon

on what element base is all this going?

Imported, of course. In such sizes, there are no options, the thermal matrix is ​​france or china (flir), the image intensifier, in theory, may be ours, but into a device that costs 10+ tons of dollars (by definition, it cannot be cheaper) to shove our image intensifier - not respect yourself (well or to cut the grandmother).
In general, they could have put a digital matrix, now they show decently, at the level of 2+ image intensifier tubes, such are available to Belarusians (Pulsar) and even the assembly of their night and warm equipment in Smolensk. And it is not afraid of light (day / night) + shockproof, unlike image intensifier tubes (they are different, but they don't like recoil too much). Well, you need to understand that the image intensifier does not have a zoom, in contrast to the digital. And what will be seen there at 4 krat (hardly more optical) is a mystery.
And yet, I wonder if this device can superimpose pictures from the thermal matrix and the image intensifier on each other. This is the latest technology now. But I doubt something.
For civilians, by the way, there is an "analog" of this device. Pulsar accolade. There you have a 640x480 matrix (which is cool), a rangefinder, a video recorder and Wi-Fi. But this is from the budget. At the exhibition, Arms and Hunting kept instruments and 10 greens each. It's still more fun there. But everything is import. Our warmth does not exist in nature (or rather, I have never heard about the compact and normal).

[boss]

In the DPR and Syria, 200-300 pieces, for verification, and not present at exhibitions

[KSVK]

Quote: Fibrizio

This is a fact, for example, Dedal on imported image intensifier tubes costs very different money than its counterpart with a domestic one. Although the model is formally the same.

When I was choosing Daedalus 490 I looked at both our Novosibirsk matrix and the American one. Stopped at ours and have no regrets. The picture is slightly worse than that of the American, but knowledgeable people said that our matrix holds the recoil better. The American is more capricious. I have been using it for 8x68 years already. There are no broken pixels yet.
And we don't have microbolometric matrices that we use in greenhouses. Ours and Belarusians mainly use French.
ZY and cooled microbolometers are installed in technology. And it is incorrect to compare them with portable ones. There, the sensitivity is at times different.

[Fibrizio]

It seems to me the age of the image intensifier is ending. How much did your granddad cost? For this money, you can now buy a junior thermion, trail or apex, which are generally better for everyone, or save 250 thousand (in comparison with a dedal), you can buy a top-end digital sight from a pulsar for 90 thousand (and it is unlikely to be much inferior to yours, or rather without backlight will give way, but how much?). And on these devices there is no recoil limit at all! I think another 10 years and IOC will read it in Bose.
But 10 years ago it was definitely a super duper mega sight and had no alternative.

Regarding stationary devices, I completely agree, but all the same, it seems to me that what is on our equipment does not match everything with top civilian devices (manual). Generation difference. My thought was about this. I do not think that there are direct breakthrough technologies, all the more I remember after 14 years of ours complained that they could not modernize tanks under the contract, because imported matrices were sanctioned. They were clearly not changed to the top.

[RealPilot]

I'll just say it! Great news.
It's good when you have the right equipment, and if you have good equipment, it's even better

[RealPilot]

I dealt with thermal imaging, I saw it in practice.
While we are tightening our own, we can buy someone else's in a quiet way ...

[KSVK]

Quote: Fibrizio

It seems to me the age of the image intensifier is ending. How much did your granddad cost?

Now I don’t remember, but VERY expensive. And if you recalculate in $ at that rate ...

Quote: Fibrizio

For this money, you can now buy a junior thermion, trail or apex, which are generally better for everyone, or save 250 thousand (in comparison with a dedal), you can buy a top-end digital sight from a pulsar for 90 thousand (and it is unlikely to be much inferior to yours, or rather without backlight will give way, but how much?). And on these devices there is no recoil limit at all! I think another 10 years and IOC will read it in Bose.
But 10 years ago it was definitely a super duper mega sight and had no alternative.

I will not say anything about digital cameras. Did not see did not feel. I heard that the batteries are eating quickly and without backlighting, you can't see anything in them. But for hunting, at least I can say that hunting with an image intensifier in the sight is safer than with a hothouse. Teplyak "does not see" any bushes or grass. You can shoot at chapyzhin and get a miss. Here is my IMHO for observation and search for greenhouses, and for the sight-image intensifier.

Quote: Fibrizio

Regarding stationary devices, I completely agree, but all the same, it seems to me that what is on our equipment does not match everything with top civilian devices (manual). Generation difference. My thought was about this. I do not think that there are direct breakthrough technologies, all the more I remember after 14 years of ours complained that they could not modernize tanks under the contract, because imported matrices were sanctioned. They were clearly not changed to the top.

As far as I know, there are no generations in microbolometers. There only the resolution and the frequency of the matrix grows. For tanks of the T-90 type, the target is determined for kilometers in the thermal sights. In very unfavorable weather conditions. No uncooled appliance can do this. Physics.