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The date of the laying of the lead icebreaker of the project 10510 "Leader"

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The date of the laying of the lead icebreaker of the project 10510 "Leader"

The official laying of the head nuclear icebreaker "Russia" of project 10510 "Leader" will take place on September 28, the Day of the worker of the nuclear industry of Russia. This is stated in the official publication of the Russian nuclear industry "Strana Rosatom".


The laying of the nuclear-powered icebreaker Rossiya will take place at the Zvezda shipbuilding complex in Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Krai. The event will be timed to coincide with the 75th anniversary of the national nuclear industry.

The nuclear-powered icebreaker Rossiya will be laid down on XNUMX September. It will become the first-born of a new generation of nuclear powered ships of the Leader project

- leads RIA News message.

Note that the ceremony of cutting steel for the icebreaker took place on July 6 this year in the Zvezda hull production unit.

The contract for the construction of the lead nuclear icebreaker, named "Russia", was signed between the shipbuilding complex "Zvezda" and FSUE "Atomflot" on April 23, 2020. The state customer of the icebreaker is the State Atomic Energy Corporation Rosatom. The first icebreaker of Project 10510 will enter service in 2027. In total, it is planned to build three icebreakers of the new project.

Icebreakers "Leader" will be designed for year-round pilotage of large-tonnage cargo ships along the Northern Sea Route.

According to the project, the total displacement of the new icebreakers will be 71,4 thousand tons with a length of 209 meters, a width of 47,7 meters and a height of 20,3 meters. The ship will receive two RITM-400 nuclear reactors with a capacity of 120 megawatts on propellers and a thermal capacity of 315 megawatts each.

As the developers of the project from the St. Petersburg Iceberg Central Design Bureau stated, the Leader icebreaker will be able to reach speeds of up to 24 knots in clean water and up to 12 knots on ice up to 2 meters thick. The maximum overcome ice thickness is 4 meters. The service life of such an icebreaker is designed for 40 years. The crew is 127 people. The autonomy of the icebreaker in terms of provisions will be 8 months.

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  1. svp67
    svp67 25 August 2020 12: 48 New
    13
    I’m glad that we are going to build another ship, but I have always been against those named as "Russia" for such iconic ships. Here, God forbid, something happens to him, a banal breakdown and how the news will sound: "" Russia "broke down"
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 August 2020 13: 01 New
      16
      I am proud of something! Build such a steamer in Bolshoy Kamen! Shine!
      1. novel66
        novel66 25 August 2020 13: 18 New
        -16
        but no weapons ... crying
        1. Eldorado
          Eldorado 25 August 2020 13: 20 New
          10
          On the "Leader" you can put containers with "Caliber", a cannon.
          1. novel66
            novel66 25 August 2020 13: 34 New
            -18
            the gun.
            scam?
            1. 22 dmdc
              22 dmdc 25 August 2020 13: 47 New
              12

              The main thing is that there are barbets for the project, and something will be stuck there.
              1. krot
                krot 25 August 2020 15: 27 New
                +1
                Maximum overcome ice thickness - 4 meters

                In my opinion, this has never happened with us or anyone else! Does such an assumed ice thickness exist in nature, or is it a landmark for the future ice age?)
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 25 August 2020 23: 46 New
                  +3
                  Quote: krot
                  Does such an assumed ice thickness exist in nature, or is it a landmark for a future ice age?)

                  Why - in some parts of the Arctic Ocean, perennial ice may well be 4 meters in thickness, so that the boat will be able to run in the north without any restrictions at all)))
                2. bayard
                  bayard 26 August 2020 01: 26 New
                  +1
                  No one had such an icebreaker in the project - look at the displacement.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 25 August 2020 14: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: El Dorado
            On the "Leader" you can put containers with "Caliber", a cannon.

            And on my river boat, put a machine gun.
          3. svp67
            svp67 25 August 2020 14: 48 New
            +5
            Quote: El Dorado
            On the "Leader" you can put containers with "Caliber", a cannon.

            And give the captain a personalized "Mauser"
        2. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 25 August 2020 13: 35 New
          +6
          Quote: novel xnumx
          but no weapons

          And he himself is a BOMB !!!
          Roma hi
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 25 August 2020 14: 57 New
          +4
          Quote: novel xnumx
          but no weapons ..

          Armaments are not put on civilian ships, as well as on vehicles, with the exception of the "craftsmen" who created the "hohotank"
          1. seregin-s1
            seregin-s1 25 August 2020 19: 33 New
            +1
            Both the cannon and the AK-630 were already on the Rossiya icebreaker.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 25 August 2020 13: 19 New
        +7
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        I am proud of something! Build such a steamer in Bolshoy Kamen! Shine!

        "Star" is gaining momentum. Pleases. good
      3. g1v2
        g1v2 25 August 2020 16: 11 New
        +3
        After the completion of Zvezda in 27-28, it will be our only fully modern shipbuilding facility capable of building ocean-going ships. There is something to be proud of. We have no other such shipyards yet. Well, except that the Kola shipyard, which Novatek is building, will be up to par, but it will be completely sharpened for the construction of platforms, etc.
        Unfortunately, the shipyards of our main shipbuilding center, which is Peter, will not be able to rebuild to such a level. They are too tightly inscribed in urban development. Only if you move it out of town, but this is unrealistic.
        1. bayard
          bayard 26 August 2020 01: 34 New
          +3
          Another such center of shipbuilding can be the Kerch "Zaliv", if it develops, the area of ​​the enterprise can be expanded there.
          But the available space and infrastructure is sufficient for the construction of the same vessels that have now begun to be built in Bolshoy Kamen. Yes, he built such in the Union.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 26 August 2020 16: 14 New
            +1
            It's not just about size. The star was originally built for a large-knot production. That is, ships and ships are designed in large blocks, they are already built with communications with minimal tolerances and then they are joined. This is a typical modern Asian production - this is how they build in the PRC, South Korea and Japan. For such a production, the Gulf needs to be completely rebuilt. In principle, there is room, but I repeat - this will require rebuilding the entire plant. It's easier to find a location and rebuild a factory from scratch. hi
    2. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 25 August 2020 13: 47 New
      -1
      Russia was breaking down, but it was being repaired. The main thing is not to go to the bottom.
    3. lucul
      lucul 25 August 2020 14: 38 New
      +5
      I’m glad that we are going to build another ship, but I have always been against those named as "Russia" for such iconic ships. Here, God forbid, something happens to him, a banal breakdown and how the news will sound: "" Russia "broke down"

      Here I recall the incident with Stalin, when he came to see a new car (future Victory). After the inspection, Stalin asked - what did you decide to call the car? The answer was - Homeland !!!!
      What Stalin asked - and how much will you sell your homeland? ...
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 25 August 2020 15: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      I’m glad that we are going to build another ship, but I have always been against those named as "Russia" for such iconic ships. Here, God forbid, something happens to him, a banal breakdown and how the news will sound: "" Russia "broke down"

      "I do not want to be informed one day that Germany has drowned." © Austrian artist

      As for the "Russia", there is nowhere to go: the new ALED inherited the name from the previous "Russia" (ALED of the "Arctic" type, withdrawn from the fleet in 2013).
    5. venik
      venik 25 August 2020 19: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      but always was against such named as "Russia" for such iconic ships. Here, God forbid, something happens to him, a banal breakdown and how the news will sound: "" Russia "broke down"

      ========
      In January 1940, the German heavy cruiser "Deutschland" ("Germany") was renamed "Lutzow". The official version is that the unfinished cruiser Luttsov (of the Prince Eugen type) was sold to the USSR (named Tallinn). A more plausible version is that Hitler feared that the sinking of the ship with the symbolic name "Germany" would be too "symptomatic" !!! Moreover, at the end of the spring of 1937, he had already received a "splash" from the Republican Air Force of Spain - SB, piloted by a Soviet pilot, placed 2 bombs in the aft part of the Deutschland (then about 30 sailors died, about 100 more were injured and burned varying degrees from the outbreak of a fire).
      So everything is correct! The only thing is that the icebreaker is not a cruiser! A purely peaceful machine!
  2. Voyager
    Voyager 25 August 2020 12: 49 New
    -11
    ABM must be installed there and calibers in addition.
    1. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 13: 16 New
      -13
      And attach the role of the target?
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 25 August 2020 14: 24 New
        -2
        He will be a target anyway.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 14: 33 New
          -4
          If you don't bet your weapon, then they won't shoot. They have no right to shoot unarmed.
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 25 August 2020 15: 09 New
            0
            Very funny, Jackie. In general, they do not have much of the right to do what, nevertheless they do, invade and destroy.
            In the event of conflicts and mixing, all units and objects of strategic importance, including these icebreakers, will be put out of action.
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 15: 17 New
              -4
              Very funny, Jackie

              Well, reels have no right to shoot at an unarmed person.

              In the event of conflicts and mixing, all units and objects of strategic importance, including these ice drifts, will be put out of action.

              Well, if these icebreakers have weapons (calibers, grenade launchers, machine guns, pistols, fittings, fists), then yes
              1. Arthur 85
                Arthur 85 25 August 2020 15: 31 New
                +2
                And the Japanese took two hospital ships at Tsushima ... All these international agreements with the West are not worth the paper on which they are written ... Unlimited submarine warfare, as an example. They will do whatever they want if there is no risk of getting a tarpaulin in their face.
                1. Jack O'Neill
                  Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 15: 40 New
                  -3
                  And the Japanese took two hospital ships at Tsushima ...

                  Doctors were needed. They were not sunk.
                2. PSih2097
                  PSih2097 25 August 2020 17: 15 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Arthur 85
                  And the Japanese took two hospital ships at Tsushima ... All these international agreements with the West are not worth the paper on which they are written ... Unlimited submarine warfare, as an example. They will do whatever they want if there is no risk of getting a tarpaulin in their face.

                  and the Germans (ships under the red cross) drowned them with the help of "pieces" and submarines ...
              2. Voyager
                Voyager 25 August 2020 15: 35 New
                0
                Quote: Jack O'Neill
                Well, reels have no right to shoot at an unarmed person.

                When did they care?

                Quote: Jack O'Neill
                Well, if these icebreakers have weapons (calibers, grenade launchers, machine guns, pistols, fittings, fists), then yes

                Well, yes, everything is fair.

                Reportedly, the icebreaker should be laid in the 2021 year under the Polar Security Cutter program (PSC, formerly called Heavy Polar Ice Breaker), jointly implemented by the Navy and the US Coast Guard and delivered to the customer by June 2024 of the year. The contract also provides for the option to build two additional icebreakers of the same type with a delivery period of 2026 and 2027.
                .
                As part of the PSC program being implemented, a large icebreaker should be able to break ice 2 m thick at a speed of 3 knots, independently break ice up to 6 m thick and have an autonomy of 80 days. Medium icebreaker - to overcome ice at least 1,4 m thick at a speed of 3 knots and also have an autonomy of 80 days. Both icebreakers should be able to mount weapons.


                https://topwar.ru/157273-beregovaja-ohrana-ssha-poluchit-novyj-ledokol-dlja-dejstvij-v-arktike.html

                Did they just ask for such an option for themselves? Or
                1. Jack O'Neill
                  Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 15: 43 New
                  -5
                  When did they care?

                  Have you ever seen an American shoot an unarmed man? So I have not seen.

                  Both icebreakers should be able to mount weapons.

                  Well, their icebreakers will be the same target. This is stupid!
                  1. Voyager
                    Voyager 25 August 2020 15: 53 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    Have you ever seen an American shoot an unarmed man? So I have not seen.

                    I'm sorry, what?

                    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/world/middleeast/pentagon-civilian-deaths-afghanistan-iraq-syria.html

                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    Well, their icebreakers will be the same target. This is stupid!

                    Well, yes, somehow they did not think to consult with you ...
                    1. Jack O'Neill
                      Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 15: 58 New
                      -2
                      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/world/middleeast/pentagon-civilian-deaths-afghanistan-iraq-syria.html

                      Mexican Military Killed 132 Civilians in Wars Last Year, Pentagon Says
                      Obviously they were Mexicans.

                      Well, yes, somehow they did not think to consult with you ...

                      Most likely there will be a means of self-defense. After all, Russian icebreakers ride with "Calibers".
                      1. Voyager
                        Voyager 25 August 2020 16: 00 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Jack O'Neill
                        Mexican Military Killed 132 Civilians in Wars Last Year, Pentagon Says
                        Obviously they were Mexicans.

                        Quote: The American military killed 132 civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Somalia during ground and air operations in those countries in 2019, according to an annual Pentagon report.

                        Americans? Americans. Even if not by nationality, so by citizenship.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/23/us-soldier-admits-killing-afghans

                        Is that Mexican too? Maybe a Martian?

                        Quote: Jack O'Neill
                        Most likely there will be a means of self-defense. After all, Russian icebreakers ride with "Calibers".

                        Enough already spinning in a frying pan wassat
                      2. Jack O'Neill
                        Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 16: 06 New
                        -2
                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/23/us-soldier-admits-killing-afghans

                        Is that Mexican too? Maybe a Martian?

                        And this American is no longer an American.

                        Stop spinning like in a frying pan wassat

                        Well, you yourself wrote that Calibers are being installed on our icebreakers. The Americans are simply forced to defend themselves, which is why they made a project with protection systems.
                      3. Voyager
                        Voyager 25 August 2020 16: 18 New
                        0
                        Quote: Jack O'Neill
                        Well, you yourself wrote that "Calibers" are being installed on our icebreakers.

                        I have never written anywhere that on "our" icebreakers put Calibers. This is my personal wish.

                        The Americans are simply forced to defend themselves, which is why they made a project with defense systems.

                        Not a word has been said about the protection systems, you thought of it yourself as you like. It has been said about weapons, period. Have you heard threats to the Americans from the Russian icebreaker fleet? That's right, and I haven't heard. But to invade, attack and kill is just in their spirit. It is for this that the possibility of installing weapons on American lekodols is openly designed.

                        Quote: Jack O'Neill
                        And this American is no longer an American.

                        Yes, even a Gunganian, at the time of the cold-blooded murder of unarmed civilians, he was the most ordinary American, as well as many other Americans in similar crimes. Give yourself "yap" to your nickname, this will be your first truth in this thread.
                      4. Jack O'Neill
                        Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 16: 24 New
                        -4
                        I have never written anywhere that "our" icebreakers are equipped with Calibers. This is my personal wish.

                        Here I am about the same, that this is your personal proposal. But where did you get the idea that the same Shoigu does not sit on VO?
                        He (Shoigu) called me about ten minutes ago, asking if I knew someone "Voyager". But I didn't give you up.

                        Not a word has been said about the protection systems, you yourself thought of it as you like.


                        It would be strange and illogical if I thought the way that suits you.) Agree.)


                        Have you heard threats to the Americans from the Russian icebreaker fleet? That's right and I haven't heard

                        I didn't hear either.


                        It is for this that the possibility of installing weapons on American lekodols is openly being designed.

                        And whom are they going to kill on icebreakers, polar bears?
            2. Arthur 85
              Arthur 85 25 August 2020 18: 29 New
              0
              Are you kidding me? And in Vietnam? And all the slavery in the United States, what is it, if not shooting (literally or figuratively) at unarmed people?
              1. Jack O'Neill
                Jack O'Neill 25 August 2020 19: 55 New
                -2
                Namtsy with SKS ran and Kalash, quite a weapon.
                What's wrong with the slaves? The owner with his property could do anything.
            3. Rzzz
              Rzzz 25 August 2020 20: 16 New
              0
              Quote: Jack O'Neill
              Well, their icebreakers will be the same target. This is stupid!

              But only our icebreakers are nuclear powered. At best, they will dirtiest Polarctic.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 August 2020 18: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      They have no right to shoot unarmed.

      But they shoot at schools and hospitals and at weddings and funeral processions ... "Gentlemen" themselves establish the rules that are beneficial to them.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 25 August 2020 15: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Voyager
    ABM must be installed there and calibers in addition.

    And that "Leader" is a naval warship or a ship "Rosatom"?
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 25 August 2020 15: 14 New
      +3
      Why ask a question that you already know the answer to?
      Meet: "Russia" of the Arctic project with artillery and machine guns in the mobilization version of equipment.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 August 2020 15: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Voyager
        Meet: "Russia" of the Arctic project with artillery and machine guns in the mobilization version of equipment.

        That's when she is mobilized into the Navy, then choose what you want. In the USSR, all ships were built taking into account re-equipment, especially fishermen.
  • horus88
    horus88 25 August 2020 12: 49 New
    +6
    beautiful ship, good luck to the shipbuilders!
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 25 August 2020 13: 04 New
    +2
    Purely my opinion, this is the name of the ship! I would give the series the old names "Krasin", "Vaygach", "Bogatyr", other options are possible, but not named after the country!
    1. Eldorado
      Eldorado 25 August 2020 13: 22 New
      +3
      There is an icebreaker "Vaygach".
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 25 August 2020 13: 32 New
        +1
        Eldorado, but I wrote it as an example! Let's have your own variants of names! hi
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 August 2020 15: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Purely my opinion, this is the name of the ship! I would give the series the old names "Krasin", "Vaygach", "Bogatyr"

      Your thought is very good and patriotic, here they are handsome!


    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 25 August 2020 15: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Purely my opinion, this is the name of the ship! I would give the series the old names "Krasin", "Vaygach", "Bogatyr", other options are possible, but not named after the country!

      "Russia" is also an old name for an icebreaker.

      One of the two ALED, from which, after testing the mobilization, they decided not to dismantle the MP-123. So we went with them to the end.
  • Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 25 August 2020 13: 05 New
    -25
    there is an opinion that the exploitation of the Northern Sea Route will not bring the desired result for many objective reasons, and they are very convincing, those who were interested in the issue know. maybe it's better to send these resources to build if not an aircraft carrier, then at least send a couple of nuclear cruisers?
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 August 2020 13: 27 New
      +6
      Quote: Wwk7260
      there is an opinion that the exploitation of the Northern Sea Route will not bring the desired result for many objective reasons, and they are very convincing

      In our country, the entire northern part of the country, where the main deposits of minerals are located, goes to the Arctic Ocean. How do you intend to implement this part? To drag airships, helicopters, or railways across the permafrost?
      1. Wwk7260
        Wwk7260 25 August 2020 13: 36 New
        -12
        it meant commercial exploitation for international cargo transportation, internal needs were fully met by icebreakers, especially taking into account the three nuclear power plants under construction in St. Petersburg, the latest generation. there is no serious growth in international traffic along the Northern Sea Route, and given the global crisis, it is not expected, the "leader" and his capabilities may not be needed.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 25 August 2020 13: 42 New
          +7
          Quote: Wwk7260
          it meant commercial exploitation for international cargo transportation

          Everything is clear with you. KOMMERSANT. And you haven't thought about the needs of the country (I doubt that Russia is your country).
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 25 August 2020 13: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: Piramidon
            KOMMERSANT.

            In this case, a banal freshbot of the lowest kind:
            exposure
            laughing
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 25 August 2020 14: 36 New
              +2
              Quote: Paranoid50
              In this case, a banal freshbot of the lowest kind:
              good
              From the generation of smatphone-dependent jerks, they will bulk.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 August 2020 15: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Wwk7260
      there is an opinion

      This is my neighbor Ninka says the same thing.
  • akeksei.shagov
    akeksei.shagov 25 August 2020 13: 15 New
    +2
    Handsome, but some kind of predatory muzzle ...
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 August 2020 13: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: akeksei.shagov
      but the muzzle is kind of predatory

      To be afraid.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 August 2020 15: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: akeksei.shagov
      but the muzzle is kind of predatory ...

      It is very unpleasant when I hear this, even when they speak to my like.
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 25 August 2020 23: 52 New
      0
      Quote: akeksei.shagov
      some kind of predatory muzzle ...

      Nooo, the face is brutal, like an ax! The most it is to chop ice)))
      But "predatory" is more likely to a friend "Admiral Panteleev" and classmates:
  • Trevis
    Trevis 25 August 2020 13: 23 New
    +5
    It looks just gorgeous! Good luck with your building!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 August 2020 15: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Trevis
      It looks just gorgeous! Good luck with your building!

      Impressive and modern. I would like to stroke the board with my hand.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 25 August 2020 13: 43 New
    +6
    The dense ignorance of the commentators is striking! Why? 1.Ship at sea (according to the encyclopedia, which all sailors know about) is a military VESSEL. This icebreaker is NOT. 2. Steamships (in the old fashioned way) sailors call all ships (steamers, motor ships, gas turbine ships, electric ships, ...), but not nuclear icebreakers! 3. Armament can be easily put on any ship. If necessary. And now this problem is solved quite simply: the container installation of the necessary weapons. 4. Vessels and ships do not have "muzzles" and "..opes", but the bow, stern, tank, forecastle, poop, poop.
    The worst thing is that illiteracy among the masses is carried by illiterate editors and announcers of popular media - victims of the EG.
    And the nuclear icebreaker "Leader" is very beautiful. Unconventional (in a good way) architecture. Today it is the largest and most powerful in the world.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 25 August 2020 15: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      1. A ship at sea (according to the encyclopedia, which all sailors know about) is a military VESSEL.

      Oh, come on. The military men themselves introduce confusion into the terminology - they officially have a whole class of ships, which are simultaneously called both the ship and the ship. smile
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 25 August 2020 17: 23 New
        +1
        A ship is a warship. What is vague and unclear here? Today there are MILITARY icebreakers. They are ships. And the simplest concept is command. Let me explain: the commander is in command of the ship, and the captain is in command of the ship. True, now, according to the new-make language, they have confused everything in the world and are called commanders of anyone, and even junks and inflatable boats are called ships! Example: "AIRCRAFT COMMANDER greets you ...!"
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 25 August 2020 17: 30 New
          0
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          A ship is a warship. What is vague and unclear here?

          Tricky question: in which ear is my buzzing this is a ship or a ship: wink
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 25 August 2020 17: 58 New
            +2
            I am not engaged in silly skirmishes. I advise you to stop trolling: it is punished for it.
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 25 August 2020 18: 21 New
              0
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              I am not engaged in silly skirmishes. I advise you to stop trolling: it is punished for it.

              And since when has this question on the topic of ship-ship classification, raised by you, become trolling?

              And so, it buzzes in both ears in the photo - a ship, according to the classification of the Navy (onboard, more precisely, tactical, the number seems to hint at this). Under the St. Andrew's flag. And even armed.
              And at the same time the same ship is classified as a ship by the fleet.
          2. Rzzz
            Rzzz 25 August 2020 20: 21 New
            0
            There are no weapons, does not participate in hostilities. So not a ship.
            This is a reconnaissance vessel. It is the ship.
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 26 August 2020 10: 28 New
              0
              Quote: rzzz
              There are no weapons, does not participate in hostilities. So not a ship.
              This is a reconnaissance vessel. It is the ship.

              The fact of the matter is that the native Navy does not agree with this. smile
              On the picture - vessel communications SSV-80 "Baltic" project 1826 "Rubidium".
              But at the same time, the same vessel is a great reconnaissance by ship.

              And this is the situation with all communication vessels. For example, the newest "Ivan Khurs".
              The information service of the Navy and the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy officially call it a communications vessel.
              According to the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, on June 25, 2018 at the Severnaya Verf shipyard in St. Petersburg, a solemn ceremony of admission to the Navy and the raising of the Andreevsky flag took place. communication vessel new generation "Ivan Khurs" project 18280.

              Vice-Admiral Viktor Buruk conveyed to the participants of the ceremony the welcoming speech of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Vladimir Korolev, in which he noted: “The Black Sea Fleet is actively replenishing. Another worthy addition will be communication ship "Ivan Hurs".
              © bmpd
              And now - the mortgage board: smile

              That is why I wrote that mess some ambiguity with the terminology "ship or ship" is inherent even in our Navy.
              1. Rzzz
                Rzzz 27 August 2020 00: 17 New
                0
                Well, the modern Navy in general cannot understand a lot of things. So we will adhere to the classic definition - the presence of weapons on board for direct participation in hostilities.
                Self-defense weapons, such as on transport ships, do not count here.
                The "Charlie-Charlie-Bravo" depicted in the photo, although it has a weapon on board, is not related to its purpose.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 25 August 2020 13: 57 New
    +6
    Civilian nuclear-powered ships were built in Leningrad and one in Kerch. Now in Bolshoy Kamen in the Far East. There is reason to be proud. Too long truth. I hope this is only for the first in the series, it will go further more fun. The channel width after it is 47 meters, can you imagine what kind of will you carry?
  • Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 25 August 2020 14: 24 New
    -4
    Azipods didn't put it like that? How many hopes have collapsed
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 August 2020 14: 57 New
    +1
    Hurray, comrades, let's wipe the imperialists' nose.
  • Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 25 August 2020 15: 26 New
    +1
    This is very encouraging! And what prevents in such dimensions, and with such a VI to build an avik?
    1. Hog
      Hog 25 August 2020 17: 11 New
      +1
      Its dimensions are not very and large compared to aviks, and the displacement is large due to ballast (the greater the mass, the thicker ice can be chopped).
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 25 August 2020 18: 27 New
      +1
      The staff must be at the level. Yes, and to design an avik 100 thousand, this is so much rake scattered. The road will be mastered by the walking. We will wait. I already have a name. There will be an article I will give my title. hi
  • Vladimir Smirnov_3
    Vladimir Smirnov_3 25 August 2020 16: 37 New
    0
    Cool icebreaker! Power! In the whole world, no one else has and never will.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 August 2020 16: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Arthur 85
    This is very encouraging! And what prevents in such dimensions, and with such a VI to build an avik?
    What for?
    1. Arthur 85
      Arthur 85 25 August 2020 18: 36 New
      0
      Well, at least skate the air group, catch all the "shoals" at the construction stage, gain experience ... That is, I am sure that apart from the 600 thousand-ton tanker from Korea, Avik does not need anything else, but the sailors disagree with me ... Well, since we don't agree, we delete the tanker. We will build a classic aircraft carrier based on an icebreaker. To mislead the enemy.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 25 August 2020 18: 40 New
    0
    Something tells me that even with such a vigorous power, the hyperboloid of engineer Garin will not be put on him. bully
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 25 August 2020 20: 46 New
    0
    Moremans, explain to a purely land person, what is the meaning of such a "nose"? How to break ice from it (heating)? No, I understand that the layout looks very original and attractive, but I want to understand - what would that (?).
    I can understand when such a nose is made for a small boat, patrol boat, destroyer. There it is done so that it does not collect excess water, with a large wave. But then what kind of wave can there be, with such a size and its purpose (breaking ice)? The only thing. what comes to mind is some element of stealth technology. Rather, a tribute to this fashion, for fully wired ships.
    1. Motorist
      Motorist 25 August 2020 21: 29 New
      +2
      On the contrary: less protrusion means less ice. And not only on the ice he will walk. Heating or live steam is quite possible.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 25 August 2020 21: 31 New
        0
        Well, maybe ..
  • Tests
    Tests 25 August 2020 22: 34 New
    -1
    I don’t understand in any way what kind of "steel cutting ceremony for the icebreaker" took place on July 06? Why is she? After the official laying of the ship, when the mortgage plate is welded, or, as they are doing now at SEVMASH, they will be inserted into a frame, will each workshop and each specialty have its own holiday on the ship? Procurement shops cut steel yesterday - a holiday, assemblers with crane operators and slingers put the first section on the bed today - a holiday, welders welded the first 10 meters of seams today - a holiday, in an electrode one, that the welders were preparing wire and flux is also a holiday, the radiologist enlightened these 10 meters tonight tonight - a holiday, cleaners after a day shift washed the shower and locker room after leaving home today welders, assemblers and crane operators with slingers - still a holiday? And the dosimetrist who measured the radiologist after today's evening shift already tomorrow at 00:01 a.m. will celebrate only tomorrow? And with the dosik together with the master of radiologists, who received the sources from the radiologists at 23 hours 56 minutes. after the shift? And the guards, who stepped in for a day yesterday, will celebrate today after 09:XNUMX, how will they hand over their weapons? It's fun, every day is a holiday ... But only the designers, technologists, quality control department foremen, electricians and plumbers of workshops, when will they celebrate, like security?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 25 August 2020 22: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Tests
      electricians and plumbers

      Probably, you can still participate in cutting, but with a plunger you can punch a blockage in the toilet, during a solemn ceremony, as it is not comme il faut.
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 26 August 2020 10: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Tests
      I don’t understand in any way what kind of "steel cutting ceremony for the icebreaker" took place on July 06? Why is she?

      A large ship, not a passenger car. Cutting / trimming the steel for the hull is essentially the laying of the ship. The laying of a large ship is always a holiday at the ss factory.
      Not a marine, but even then I understand ...