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Either poisoned or not: in Germany they cannot name the cause of Navalny's coma

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In Germany, they said that the poisoning of Alexei Navalny may be "partly likely." This version was voiced to the press by the representative of the Federal Republic of Germany government Steffen Seibert.


As you know, Navalny is currently in Germany in the Berlin clinic "Charite". Its transportation to Germany, according to Alexei's associates, was paid for by the entrepreneur Boris Zimin, the son of the creator of Beeline and the trustee of the Dynasty Foundation for non-profit programs Dmitry Zimin. The Cinema for Peace Foundation was directly involved in organizational issues.

No visible improvements in the condition of the oppositionist have been reported yet. But it is clear that the version about the poisoning of Navalny will be dominant not only among Alexei's Russian supporters, but also in the Western press. Now it is beneficial for the West to present the deplorable state of Navalny as the result of an attempt on his life by the special services or some interest groups in the Russian ruling elite. For example, the founder of Cinema for Peace, Yaka Bizil, said that Alexei Navalny was poisoned and predicted incapacity for the opposition figure in the next few months.

Meanwhile, Russian doctors cite metabolic disorders and the resulting sharp drop in blood sugar levels as the main likely reason for Navalny's coma. Also, doctors reported about the presence of traces of alcohol and caffeine consumption and about the absence of poisons in the body of the oppositionist.

But this preliminary version causes strong discontent among his supporters: doctors at the emergency hospital №1 in Omsk admitted that they were even threatened on social networks. This is understandable: the most zealous fans of Alexei Navalny can admit only one working version - that their idol was poisoned by "Putin's special services", there simply cannot be other reasons for the painful condition.

However, even if we accept the version of the poisoning, it remains to be determined who, in fact, could have been involved in it. When an investigation begins on such crimes, all versions are worked out. Most likely, if professionals from the special services really took place at the incident, then everything would have ended. Unless, some interested persons could have wished not for Navalny's death, but a scandal in connection with his poisoning. All история strongly resembles the hype surrounding the strange poisoning of Sergei Skripal in the UK.


Navalny's health remains the # 1 topic for Russia's liberal opposition

Interestingly, Navalny's entourage sweeps aside the likelihood of poisoning the oppositionist for non-political reasons, although Alexei, like any person, has a personal life, friends and enemies, competitors and envious people, including in the opposition itself. It is no secret that the activities of any socio-political organization have sources of funding, and for the redistribution of financial flows, a struggle may also arise between representatives of different groups within the opposition itself. Finally, one should not abandon the version of "sacred sacrifice" that would be so beneficial to both the West and the Russian opposition.

Meanwhile, the position of Western states is impressive: both in Germany and in France, not to mention the United States, there are many internal political and social problems, much more acute than the activities of Alexei Navalny and his associates in Russia. But the health of the protesters in American cities for some reason worries the State Department less than Navalny's condition, and Macron and Merkel have forgotten about their own "yellow vests", ultra-left and far-right radicals, migrants from Africa and Asia: Navalny was even called a "guest" of the chancellor Germany, emphasizing its special status.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 24 August 2020 16: 58
    14
    There was poison! He does not deny it! But! He self-destructed .....
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 24 August 2020 17: 02
      44
      Booze is generally evil. As well as drugs. Pure poison. Especially when used in large quantities.
      1. venik
        venik 24 August 2020 17: 31
        12
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Booze is generally evil. As well as drugs. Pure poison. Especially when used in large quantities.

        =========
        Well, if you drink too much before the "pig squeal" ..... Then - oo-oo-oo-oo-oo! And to whom it will not take long to fly away ..... In the company of "green devils", "pink elephants" and God knows what other fury .....
        1. svp67
          svp67 24 August 2020 17: 50
          +2
          Quote: venik
          Well, and if you drink until the "pig squeal" ...

          Everything depends on the person, someone has enough "sniff of cork", but someone drinks and nothing
          1. krot
            krot 24 August 2020 18: 07
            13
            He is guarded as a guest of the chancellor! Why are Navalny so honored in Germany? Who does he work for? Obviously not in the interests of Russia.
            1. figwam
              figwam 24 August 2020 18: 19
              10
              In Germany, they said that the poisoning of Alexei Navalny may be "partly likely."

              Judging by the motorcade and guards in Germany, no doubt poisoned by an ordinary novice.)
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 24 August 2020 21: 38
                +3
                already flashed a note that in Germany found cholinesterase inhibitors in the blood. But the inconsistency, cholinesterase inhibitors are convulsive poisons with characteristic signs
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 24 August 2020 22: 17
                  16
                  I have a version.
                  In front of him was a priest in that toilet, and crossed himself. He accidentally consecrated the water, so Navalny got caught up in it. The soul flew away to the buyer, and the body without a soul fell into a coma. wassat
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 24 August 2020 22: 18
                  13
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  already flashed a note that in Germany found cholinesterase inhibitors in the blood.

                  Frau Merkel has already called for the poisoners of Leshenka to be found ..
                  I remember Yushchenko, the same poisoned, and other fighters for the Misfortune of their own people.
                  There is a direct rush to Russian medicine. Omsk doctors lost their voice, trying to explain that there was no poisoning.
                  But, as you know, in Sharite they treat only by order, and only those sent. It seems they do not know how to make other diagnoses there. Can German diagnosticians go to Omsk for advanced training courses?
                  1. Clear
                    Clear 24 August 2020 23: 08
                    +8
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Frau Merkel has already called for the poisoners of Leshenka to be found ..

                    Ilyich, this German politician, in a skirt, has already demanded to find and punish the criminals. They, as always, have already appointed the perpetrators.
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 24 August 2020 23: 23
                      +3
                      Quote: Clear
                      this German politician, in a skirt, has already demanded to find and punish the criminals. They, as always, have already appointed the guilty

                      So clear the stump ....
                      The tribunal in The Hague is covered with a copper basin. The creaks disappeared from the horizon. Now a new feature is Lyosha grassy.
                      I will repeat what I said earlier on another thread: "I would like to believe that all the patients of the Omsk Central Hospital, brought in with suspicion of poisoning, will now be Frau Merkel's personal guests. And the special doctors of the Charite Clinic will have something to do, and the hospital beds in Omsk will be unloaded."
                      Choi ta Merkel is not sounding the alarm over the sharp increase in Covid-19 infections in Germany in recent days in childcare. There is no visible concern of the EU authorities in connection with the situation in France, where the peak of the virus was repeated at the weekend, which was noted at the beginning of the pandemic.
                      But in Russia - everything is bad.
                      Eh, Lyokha, Lyokha ... Who did you leave us for ...
                    2. akunin
                      akunin 25 August 2020 09: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: Clear
                      this German politician in a skirt

                      when did you see her in a skirt? walks in trousers laughing
                      1. Clear
                        Clear 25 August 2020 09: 40
                        +4
                        Quote: akunin
                        Quote: Clear
                        this German politician in a skirt

                        when did you see her in a skirt? walks in trousers laughing

                        Ed, hello. Convenient, but not always ...
                      2. akunin
                        akunin 25 August 2020 11: 06
                        +1
                        give up hi used to crumpled pajamas
                      3. ver_
                        ver_ 25 August 2020 16: 53
                        0
                        ... she was also negligee with two more ladies at a younger age ...
                      4. Clear
                        Clear 25 August 2020 19: 32
                        +1
                        Quote: ver_
                        ... she was also negligee with two more ladies at a younger age ...

                        Young all and in negligee look good.
              2. Shuttle
                Shuttle 25 August 2020 01: 58
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker

                But, as you know, in Sharite they treat only by order, and only those sent. It seems they do not know how to make other diagnoses there. Can German diagnosticians go to Omsk for advanced training courses?

                Well, now you have bent your wand in the heat of the moment. But in vain. In Charite, they perfectly cured Shmorgl's hernia at Tyulka, which she received in the basements of the Yanukovosch regime.
                1. Vitaly Akimov
                  Vitaly Akimov 25 August 2020 09: 56
                  +2
                  Incidentally, at the Charité clinic, the radio operator Kat gave birth in the famous film.
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 25 August 2020 17: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Vitaly Akimov
                    Incidentally, at the Charité clinic, the radio operator Kat gave birth in the famous film.

                    Gestapo informants still work there ??? laughing
              3. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 25 August 2020 17: 45
                0
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Can German diagnosticians go to Omsk for advanced training courses?

                when they were in Omsk, they agreed with everything ... they had access to the body, analyzes, now their diagnoses no longer have the power that real Knowledge has
            2. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 25 August 2020 17: 17
              +1
              In general, cholinesterase inhibitors are combat OPOVs - sarin, soman, herd, VX, VR.
              A hint that a "newbie" will be found soon?
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 25 August 2020 17: 52
                0
                Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                Actually, cholinesterase inhibitors are combat OPA

                in general, cholinesterase inhibitors are called a whole group of drugs called anticholinesterase drugs. Among which there are those that are produced in our body. Combat agents are classified there according to the type of action on the synapses of the nervous system. "Everything is poison and all medicine, one or the other makes it only a dose" Abu Ali Ibn Sina
                1. Sergey M. Karasev
                  Sergey M. Karasev 25 August 2020 18: 12
                  +1
                  This is true, but in this case, it can be easily announced later that the cholinesterase inhibitor in Naval's body refers specifically to OPA, and not to anticholinesterase drugs.
                  It was not for nothing that there was talk that these very inhibitors had been found. After all, Naval was injected not only with them, but also with a handful of other very different drugs.
                  "It's not without reason ..." (c)
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 25 August 2020 18: 48
                    +2
                    Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                    It was not for nothing that the conversations went

                    no wonder there was talk about glucose smile it quickly removes any metabolites from the body, especially those active. German doctors are very conservative, they still use Dr. Mengele's work. He made a breakthrough with them once. They also worked on poisons in Dachau. But the Omsk doctors went further !!! laughing lol Well done !! soldier
            3. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 26 August 2020 07: 24
              +1
              Quote: aybolyt678
              already flashed a note that in Germany found cholinesterase inhibitors in the blood. But the inconsistency, cholinesterase inhibitors are convulsive poisons with characteristic signs

              In Omsk, analyzes have already found 3 types of chemical substances, which is probably why doctors are threatened
            4. Blondy
              Blondy 26 August 2020 11: 36
              0
              Yes, they did not find anything - only traces in the form of clinical manifestations, and the clinic can be from anything. Moreover, "probably" but translated into English, so that everyone understands this means "highly likely" and even without "highly".

              And, in general, the opposition hesitated by such a monotonous PR - just a little something - the authorities in the person of the "bloody gebny" immediately poison their selfless fighter, Navalny's press secretary is a super-super expert toxicologist, Well, why would the Germans not go to meet the disinterested and selfless fighters against Putinism - in principle, no one found the poisoning - but as formulated and did not lie anywhere.
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 24 August 2020 18: 27
          +4
          Quote: krot
          He is guarded as a guest of the chancellor! Why are Navalny so honored in Germany?

          Prior to that, Merkel called "Syrian refugees" from all over the Middle East, North Africa and Bangladesh "her guests".
          It turns out that Navalny is in the same status with them ...
          1. krot
            krot 24 August 2020 19: 47
            0
            Prior to that, Merkel called "Syrian refugees" from all over the Middle East, North Africa and Bangladesh "her guests".

            - This is a populist move. And Navalny clearly does not need charity in his favor. Do not equate these two different points here.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 24 August 2020 18: 51
          +1
          Quote: krot
          Who does he work for? Obviously not in the interests of Russia.

          The Cossack was sent, it was clear from the very beginning. Living in Russia, everything is not right and wrong for him ... but in America, in his words, it is smeared with honey and smeared with cream on top. And now, you see, this desman has been poisoned. Not a "Novice", no? Or will they suddenly find traces of a "Novice" in this worthless organism?
          1. Harry.km
            Harry.km 24 August 2020 20: 20
            -5
            Quote: NEXUS
            Not a "Newbie" no?

            Nexus, you are one of the main specialists of a wide profile here, and do not know that the "newbie" of all modifications is a cholinesterase inhibitor. Actually, according to doctors from Germany, Navalny was poisoned with such a substance. Promise after add. analyzes to name and substance. And our doctors from Omsk confuse blood glucose and cholinesterase along the way. And instead of atropine, glucose was dropped.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 24 August 2020 21: 10
              +8
              Cholinesterase inhibitors are widely used in neurology and psychiatry. Neuromedin for example, Ipigrix and so on and so on ..
              1. akunin
                akunin 25 August 2020 09: 40
                0
                Quote: paul3390
                Neuromedin for example

                with hangover most then, especially if low pressure laughing
            2. Albert1988
              Albert1988 24 August 2020 23: 18
              +3
              Quote: Harry.km
              The "newbie" of all modifications is a cholinesterase inhibitor.

              Ugums, here they are, "newbies, all modifications":
              https://www.vidal.ru/drugs/clinic-pointer/11.08.02.03
              They are actively used in medicine! For example, to reduce spasms and pressure in the eye, to treat degenerative nerve diseases, myasthenia gravis of skeletal muscles, atony of smooth muscles ...
              1. Harry.km
                Harry.km 24 August 2020 23: 26
                -1
                Quote: Albert1988
                Ugums, here they are, "newbies, all modifications":
                https://www.vidal.ru/drugs/clinic-pointer/11.08.02.03

                So which of this list is FOS? )))
                My remark was addressed to Nexus, who is clearly not aware that dichlorvos, sarin and "newbie" are cholinesterase blockers. But for the sake of hype, he united Navalny and the "newbie". And he certainly does not know that traces of FOS can be found even after a month of lying in the ground, unlike the substances from your list ...
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 24 August 2020 23: 33
                  +5
                  Quote: Harry.km
                  My remark was addressed to Nexus, who is clearly not aware that dichlorvos, sarin and "newbie" are cholinesterase blockers.

                  And who told you that organophosphates were found in his body?
                  And the fact that, according to the consequences for the body, it can be concluded that it was precisely the effect of cholinesterase inhibitors, but they cannot yet name a specific substance ...
                  But organophosphates have very, very characteristic features - irreversible destruction of synoptic connections, as well as genotoxic effects (cause the death of nerve cells).
                  But to poison him with an increased dose of any of the listed drugs is quite possible, it is possible that they were poisoned with this:
                  https://www.vidal.ru/drugs/nivalin__3023
                  What a name - "Nivalin"!
                  Renamed to "Navalinn"!
                  1. Harry.km
                    Harry.km 24 August 2020 23: 45
                    0
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    And who told you that organophosphates were found in his body?

                    This nexus in a stinging form suggested. And he is clearly not aware that karbofos is also FOS.
                    Cholinesterase activity could decrease due to shock, for example. Maybe Navalny is allergic to the plasticizer of the cup. Or maybe in Omsk he was given some of the muscle relaxants, or maybe quinoline derivatives, who knows how and from what he was treated if there was no diagnosis ...
                  2. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 24 August 2020 23: 51
                    +4
                    Quote: Harry.km
                    Cholinesterase activity could decrease due to shock, for example.

                    Then the question is, what caused the shock?
                    Quote: Harry.km
                    Navalny may be allergic to the plasticizer in the cup.

                    Then he would have bent earlier ... Much earlier ...
                    Quote: Harry.km
                    Or maybe in Omsk he was given some of the muscle relaxants

                    Obviously not in Omsk - it became bad earlier ... But the fact that in an ordinary hospital they might not understand what was going on, since there simply are not enough funds for the tests, so this, alas, is the norm.
                    Well, then - Leshenka obviously has many friends, and far from only in the political horizon, there they are, one might say, a minority. But for financial affairs, he has a lot of friends, so they could feed them with a "simple" drug in an exorbitant dose, because most of these drugs have metabolic disorders, excessive sweating, agitation, convulsions, coma in symptoms of an overdose .. ...
                  3. Harry.km
                    Harry.km 25 August 2020 00: 03
                    -3
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    could also feed a "simple" drug in an exorbitant dose

                    I doubt that such a quantity would fit into a glass. Let's see what happens next and what they tell us. If the consequences are reversible, then quinoline (according to your scheme), and if irreversible damage ... well, I think that the Germans will figure out what is attached to the enzyme. Moreover, if it was an irreversible poison, then there will be no problems even if the patient is grounded ...
                  4. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 25 August 2020 00: 16
                    0
                    Quote: Harry.km
                    I doubt that such a quantity would fit into a glass.

                    Are you sure it was in a glass? Although, depending on what dose can give such an effect - if there are 5-6 tablets, then quite ...
                    Quote: Harry.km
                    I think that the Germans will figure out what is attached to the enzyme.

                    If it has not already disintegrated, there may be such an option, it will be necessary to sort it out by indirect signs.
                  5. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 25 August 2020 00: 46
                    +7
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    Are you sure it was in a glass? Although, depending on what dose can give such an effect - if there are 5-6 tablets, then quite

                    Doctor of Medical Sciences, surgeon and deputy of the municipality of the city of Yaroslavl Dmitry Petrovsky, in an interview with "Journalist Pravda" commented on the statement of German doctors.

                    "The fact that they found cholinesterase inhibitors from Navalny after being in intensive care is normal. They should be in a person who was in intensive care and was on mechanical ventilation. And if the doctor finds them in the analysis of a person after being in the operating room and does it on this the conclusion that he was poisoned, then the conclusion is this: either it is a political order, or an illiterate doctor, "the expert noted.
                  6. Vol4ara
                    Vol4ara 25 August 2020 09: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    Are you sure it was in a glass? Although, depending on what dose can give such an effect - if there are 5-6 tablets, then quite

                    Doctor of Medical Sciences, surgeon and deputy of the municipality of the city of Yaroslavl Dmitry Petrovsky, in an interview with "Journalist Pravda" commented on the statement of German doctors.

                    "The fact that they found cholinesterase inhibitors from Navalny after being in intensive care is normal. They should be in a person who was in intensive care and was on mechanical ventilation. And if the doctor finds them in the analysis of a person after being in the operating room and does it on this the conclusion that he was poisoned, then the conclusion is this: either it is a political order, or an illiterate doctor, "the expert noted.

                    What cholinesterase inhibitors are used in intensive care? The first time I've heard
                  7. Lionnvrsk
                    Lionnvrsk 25 August 2020 15: 14
                    +2
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    What cholinesterase inhibitors are used in intensive care? The first time I've heard

                    Petrovsky called -Proserpine and Ubretid hi connecting them with the transfer from mechanical ventilation to spontaneous breathing.
                  8. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 25 August 2020 18: 38
                    +2
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    What cholinesterase inhibitors are used in intensive care?

                    e.g. acetylcholine analogs, carbacholine
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 25 August 2020 18: 44
                +1
                Quote: Albert1988
                Are you sure it was in a glass?

                these are nerve poisons, very soluble and tasteless. Carbacholine is effective in concentrations with hundredths of a percent, The dose for adults when taken orally is 0,0005-0,001 g, two or three times an overdose causes severe conditions, so it is good enough to smell it laughing
              3. Albert1988
                Albert1988 25 August 2020 23: 41
                +1
                Quote: aybolyt678
                these are nerve poisons, very soluble and tasteless. Carbacholine is effective in concentrations with hundredths of a percent, The dose for adults when taken orally is 0,0005-0,001 g, two or three times an overdose causes severe conditions, so it is good enough to smell it

                It's possible though
    2. Mwg
      Mwg 25 August 2020 09: 49
      +2
      The patient is treated with atropine.
      http://delovoe.tv/event/Germanskaya_klinika_Charit_po_klinicheskim_dannim_Navalnij_bil_otravlen/

      Atropine Atropinum (genus Atropini), Characteristics of the substance Atropine: An alkaloid contained in plants of the Solanaceae family (Solanaceae): belladonna (Atropa Belladonna L.), henbane (Hyoscyamus niger L.), various types of dope (Datura stramonium L.), etc. In medical practice, atropine sulfate is used.
      Pharmacology: Pharmacological action - anticholinergic.
      Blocks m-cholinergic receptors. Causes mydriasis, accommodation paralysis, increased intraocular pressure, tachycardia, xerostomia. Inhibits the secretion of bronchial and gastric, sweat glands. Relaxes the smooth muscles of the bronchi, gastrointestinal tract, bile and urinary systems - spasmolytic effect. Excites (large doses) the central nervous system.

      German doctors say: Clinical data indicate poisoning with a substance from the group of cholinesterase inhibitors.

      An inhibitor is a general name for substances that suppress or retard the course of physiological and physicochemical processes. Wikipedia
      Cholinesterases are a group of enzymes from the class of carboxylic acid hydrolases, the substrates of which are esters of choline with acetic, propionic or butyric acids. The name of the second subgroup of hydrolases is acetylcholine acylhydrolase, and the trivial name is cholinesterase. Wikipedia.
      Serum cholinesterase has a protective function in the body. Cholinesterase is the main enzyme that metabolizes cocaine and its derivatives with the formation of non-toxic decomposition products, therefore it is used in case of an overdose of this psychoactive substance. Wikipedia.

      So maybe they didn't poison him, but what he voluntarily accepted?
  • Berber
    Berber 25 August 2020 11: 17
    +2
    And also holistenerza is used in case of "overdose" of cocaine.
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 25 August 2020 18: 03
    +1
    Quote: Harry.km
    And our doctors from Omsk confuse blood glucose and cholinesterase along the way. And instead of atropine, glucose was dropped.

    they do not confuse anything. Cholinesterase inhibitors (poisoning) have very characteristic features: narrowed pupil to the limit, severely slowed heartbeat, severe salivation, etc. These are the basics of Toxicology, among other things. Atropine is an antidote that accumulates in the body and is excreted for up to 2 weeks ... Imagine a situation that to neutralize the poison, you will have to inject a lot of atropine, but the poison is unstable and is destroyed within 2 days! then you will have to treat atropine poisoning. And there is no antidote for it, only symptomatic treatment! Atropine is an alkaloid obtained from Datura! smile
    glucose is an excellent antitoxic drug, it washes the body well, gives strength
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 24 August 2020 19: 02
    +1
    Quote: krot
    Who does he work for? Obviously not in the interests of Russia.

    Yes, Gazprom also works for Germany ... Germany is the main consumer of the Nord Streams. Navalny was not taken to the USA
    1. krot
      krot 24 August 2020 19: 49
      -3
      Germany is the main consumer of the Nord Streams

      And Russia gets currency from these sales to Germany .. Are you a supporter of breaking off trade relations with the West? Nonsense..
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 24 August 2020 19: 54
        +5
        Quote: krot
        And Russia gets currency from these sales to Germany .. Are you a supporter of breaking off trade relations with the West? Nonsense..
        Where did I say that ?! wassat
        Well, then Germany is a friendly state ... so what questions to Navalny? Putin himself sent Kobzon there for treatment.
        I repeat once again, for the gifted, he is not being treated in the USA.
        1. krot
          krot 24 August 2020 20: 14
          0
          I repeat once again, for the gifted - he is not treated in the USA

          The United States maintains the largest military base in Europe and the largest spy contingent in Germany. The United States has almost all of Europe-vassals .. There is no difference where the bulk was taken if to the US vassals.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 24 August 2020 21: 18
            +1
            Quote: krot
            There is no difference where the bulk was taken if to the US vassals.

            why are we building streams for US vassals then ?! You can drive gas there, through expensive pipelines, but there is no treatment for people ?! Your logic is certainly amazing.
      2. Clear
        Clear 24 August 2020 22: 27
        +6
        Quote: krot
        Germany is the main consumer of the Nord Streams

        And Russia gets currency from these sales to Germany .. Are you a supporter of breaking off trade relations with the West? Nonsense..

        Lord guys winked yes, "Merkel's gambit" and ay-ay-ay am , in the direction of Russia, in detail, is quite understandable. We follow the construction site.
  • Trotil42
    Trotil42 25 August 2020 04: 28
    +2
    Quote: krot
    He is guarded as a guest of the chancellor! Why are Navalny so honored in Germany? Who does he work for? Obviously not in the interests of Russia.

    Doesn't work for anyone ... he's in a coma ...
  • Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 28 August 2020 17: 00
    -1
    Seriously speaking, it works in the interests of Russia. Now a strange temporary trend has formed for our country's opposition to the West. You know how it ended for the USSR. There are far fewer resources now than in those days. The outcome of the confrontation is predictable - smooth economic degradation. Do you remember how the hype about Skolkovo ended. The promise of 20 ml of high-tech jobs ended in the same way. You know that now they are more and more silent about national projects. We need technology and investment from the West. Strongly needed. In exchange, they want a turnover of power. So what's the question? The aka psychopathic President Lukashenko is incapable of choosing a successor. That there are no such people among Russians?
    1. Arthur73
      Arthur73 30 August 2020 16: 18
      0
      Dmitry10SPb (Dmitry)
      28 August 2020 17: 00


      We need technology and investment from the West. Strongly needed. In exchange, they want a turnover of power. So what's the question?
      There is such a sort of little people. During the Great Patriotic War, they actively helped the invaders from the united Hitlerite Europe, who distributed propaganda like yours "Russian Ivan, give up, we will give you warmth and food in return (in short).
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 24 August 2020 19: 34
    +5
    Quote: venik
    ... And to whom to fly for a short time ..... In the company of "green devils", "pink elephants" and God knows what else with a whistle.....

    A beautiful word came out.
    And it is harmoniously combined: Sisyan with a feather. hi
  • Baloo
    Baloo 24 August 2020 17: 50
    +8
    A successful special operation of the police to remove their personnel. Now the nastralny does not have to pay fines and he does not have a real term.
    1. dauria
      dauria 24 August 2020 18: 18
      +7
      Now the nastralny does not have to pay fines and he does not have a real term.

      And our urine and blood tests are now stored for half a century. And still walk guilty. In vain they released. With debts, with a criminal record - I would sit here, one devil would not die. And if there is something serious, they die in Germany and Israel in the same way. True, the wards are smarter laughing
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 24 August 2020 18: 20
        +7
        Quote: dauria
        and in Germany and Israel they die in the same way.

        yes ehto so. No one keeps statistics how many left on their own feet, and how many returned in a coffin or on a stretcher
      2. Clear
        Clear 24 August 2020 22: 50
        +8
        Quote: dauria
        in Germany and Israel they die in the same way. True, the wards are smarter

        More luxurious, if there is money, but not, then ... to the hospital corridor
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 24 August 2020 18: 28
      +3
      Quote: Balu
      A successful special operation of the police to remove their personnel.

      That is unlikely. They need Navalny more in Russia.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 24 August 2020 20: 04
        +6
        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        They need Navalny more in Russia.
        Was. I worked out everything that I ordered as I could, now they can use a dead carcass. He doesn't really belong to himself, and the owners will figure out how to use it. And it doesn't matter to them: dead or alive - the main thing is to work.
    3. Clear
      Clear 24 August 2020 22: 49
      +7
      Quote: Balu
      A successful special operation of the police to remove their personnel. Now the nastralny does not have to pay fines and he does not have a real term.

      Well, like version yes
  • Oden280
    Oden280 24 August 2020 19: 57
    +5
    These inhibitors are used to treat psychiatric illnesses. And they do not mix well with booze.
  • frizzy
    frizzy 24 August 2020 21: 25
    -8
    No need! -La-la. All my life I use and nothing is normal. And I advise you, we live once ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 24 August 2020 23: 10
      +7
      Quote: frizzy
      No need! -La-la. All my life I use and nothing is normal

      Yeah, according to your posts you can see how everything is "normal"
  • Svarog
    Svarog 24 August 2020 17: 04
    +1
    Quote: Theodore
    There was poison! He does not deny it! But! He self-destructed .....

    Who doesn't deny?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 24 August 2020 19: 02
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      Quote: Theodore
      There was poison! He does not deny it! But! He self-destructed .....

      Who doesn't deny?

  • Vend
    Vend 24 August 2020 17: 07
    +5
    Quote: Theodore
    There was poison! He does not deny it! But! He self-destructed .....

    If Navalny was taken away from Russia, then he was a khan, it's like with the Tablets. He will not be released from Germany alive.
    1. iConst
      iConst 24 August 2020 17: 14
      +5
      Quote: Wend
      it's like with Tablets

      In-in. It was he who stroked the Skripals' second cat ...
      He already ran to Omsk to escape the British police. The first cat - that ... was eliminated. Witness, p'anim ...

      Although, they say he has diabetes - and this is such a thing ...
      Okay, let the opposition get well Er ...
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 24 August 2020 17: 46
        20
        Lenin led the revolution from emigration, and Navalny - from a coma smile
        1. svp67
          svp67 24 August 2020 17: 51
          +9
          Quote: Thrall
          Lenin led the revolution from emigration, and Navalny - from a coma

          Modern technologies...
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 24 August 2020 17: 14
      13
      And if they use him there like Tikhanovskaya as a talking head, recognize him as a victim, blame our authorities for everything and introduce new sanctions? And all this out of the blue. The main thing is to play it in your own interests. Few people are interested in reality anymore. Everywhere lies.
      1. stalki
        stalki 24 August 2020 18: 10
        +4
        And if they use him there like Tikhanovskaya as a talking head, recognize him as a victim, blame our authorities for everything and introduce new sanctions? And all this out of the blue. The main thing is to play it in your own interests. Few people are interested in reality anymore. Everywhere lies.
        Let them play the play for themselves. Personally, I will not go to it. Fioletovo. This clown has no weight and does not pull on the sacred victim, even if this is so. His whole life smells bad. Better yet, the stench goes abroad.
    3. snake
      snake 24 August 2020 17: 36
      -5
      Quote: Wend
      then he has a khan, it's like with the Tablets

      Are these the Tablets that Moses broke?
      Quote: Wend
      He will not be released from Germany alive.

      Why would you? It is now a matter of honor for the West to patch up Navalny.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 24 August 2020 17: 53
        +9
        Yeah, as Sobchak and Gaidar patched up, for example laughing
      2. Vend
        Vend 24 August 2020 18: 06
        +7
        Quote: serpent
        Quote: Wend
        then he has a khan, it's like with the Tablets

        Are these the Tablets that Moses broke?
        Quote: Wend
        He will not be released from Germany alive.

        Why would you? It is now a matter of honor for the West to patch up Navalny.

        What's for the west? laughing laughing That's what the West hasn't had for a long time, it's honor. laughing Where did you find it? laughing
        1. snake
          snake 24 August 2020 18: 41
          -7
          Quote: Wend
          That's what the West hasn't had for a long time, it's honor.

          Nothing wrong. They will borrow from our officials.
          1. Vend
            Vend 25 August 2020 10: 18
            0
            Quote: serpent
            Quote: Wend
            That's what the West hasn't had for a long time, it's honor.

            Nothing wrong. They will borrow from our officials.

            Our officials have been trying to share their honor with Judah for a long time, but not for the stupid, greedy and rabid West. Lavrov has tried many times, and not only Lavrov laughing laughing
            1. snake
              snake 25 August 2020 11: 17
              -1
              Quote: Wend
              Lavrov has tried many times, and not only Lavrov

              What did Lavrov try? Can you last a week without an Argentinean coconut?
              1. Vend
                Vend 25 August 2020 11: 21
                +1
                Quote: serpent
                Quote: Wend
                Lavrov has tried many times, and not only Lavrov

                What did Lavrov try? Can you last a week without an Argentinean coconut?

                The honor to share. And Lavrov is already objectionable laughing
                1. snake
                  snake 25 August 2020 11: 25
                  +2
                  And what can Lavrov boast of? With his famous phrase showing all his diplomacy? Or is our foreign policy not full of seams? Already Belarus was almost lost. And that's not a fact.
                  1. Vend
                    Vend 25 August 2020 11: 27
                    0
                    Quote: serpent
                    And what can Lavrov boast of? With his famous phrase showing all his diplomacy? Or is our foreign policy not full of seams? Already Belarus was almost lost. And that's not a fact.

                    Oh how you have everything running laughing laughing
                    1. snake
                      snake 25 August 2020 11: 29
                      +1
                      This is not for me - it is in the government that there is complete incompetence. If not to say - betrayal.
        2. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 25 August 2020 09: 31
          0
          Quote: Wend
          Quote: serpent
          Quote: Wend
          then he has a khan, it's like with the Tablets

          Are these the Tablets that Moses broke?
          Quote: Wend
          He will not be released from Germany alive.

          Why would you? It is now a matter of honor for the West to patch up Navalny.

          What's for the west? laughing laughing That's what the West hasn't had for a long time, it's honor. laughing Where did you find it? laughing

          We just didn't find her. But the children of our leaders, like they themselves retired, seem to have found, since they buy housing there and live there and go for treatment, by the way, also there
          1. Vend
            Vend 25 August 2020 10: 20
            +1
            Quote: Vol4ara
            Quote: Wend
            Quote: serpent
            Quote: Wend
            then he has a khan, it's like with the Tablets

            Are these the Tablets that Moses broke?
            Quote: Wend
            He will not be released from Germany alive.

            Why would you? It is now a matter of honor for the West to patch up Navalny.

            What's for the west? laughing laughing That's what the West hasn't had for a long time, it's honor. laughing Where did you find it? laughing

            We just didn't find her. But the children of our leaders, like they themselves retired, seem to have found, since they buy housing there and live there and go for treatment, by the way, also there

            Don't worry about them, you will earn enough money and you can also buy real estate in the west. laughing laughing
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 25 August 2020 11: 41
              0
              Quote: Wend
              Quote: Vol4ara
              Quote: Wend
              Quote: serpent
              Quote: Wend
              then he has a khan, it's like with the Tablets

              Are these the Tablets that Moses broke?
              Quote: Wend
              He will not be released from Germany alive.

              Why would you? It is now a matter of honor for the West to patch up Navalny.

              What's for the west? laughing laughing That's what the West hasn't had for a long time, it's honor. laughing Where did you find it? laughing

              We just didn't find her. But the children of our leaders, like they themselves retired, seem to have found, since they buy housing there and live there and go for treatment, by the way, also there

              Don't worry about them, you will earn enough money and you can also buy real estate in the west. laughing laughing

              You can earn a hernia in the Russian Federation, and in order to buy real estate comparable to the one that our deputies and officials buy, you have to be a deputy or an official yourself, but your conscience will not allow, even if there is an opportunity
      3. Clear
        Clear 24 August 2020 22: 57
        +6
        Quote: serpent
        Quote: Wend
        then he has a khan, it's like with the Tablets

        Are these the Tablets that Moses broke?
        Quote: Wend
        He will not be released from Germany alive.

        Why would you? It is now a matter of honor for the West to patch up Navalny.

        Why "patch" request The crisis has passed here, there is only a calm rehabilitation yes
    4. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 24 August 2020 19: 06
      +3
      Quote: Wend
      He will not be released from Germany alive.

      Verzilov survived ... in the same clinic they treated Navalny now
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 24 August 2020 19: 54
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Verzilov survived ... in the same clinic they treated Navalny now

        By the way, the German clinic is cloudy, so evil tongues claim, they allegedly work under the supervision of the CIA (who knows, who can you trust now?)
        According to Peter, the German doctors also said that they had poisoned him, but the patient was released rather quickly, since at the time of discharge, Petya had only one unhealthy symptom - dilated pupils.
        It wasn't enough to keep him in the clinic.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 24 August 2020 19: 55
          +1
          Quote: bober1982
          It wasn't enough to keep him in the clinic.

          Well, he did not die, as the comrade above claims. I just meant it
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 24 August 2020 19: 59
            +4
            They will treat this, too, he is needed here, to drive clown dances.
      2. Vend
        Vend 25 August 2020 10: 22
        0
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Quote: Wend
        He will not be released from Germany alive.

        Verzilov survived ... in the same clinic they treated Navalny now

        I have no idea who it is
    5. cost
      cost 25 August 2020 00: 31
      +2
      If Navalny was taken away from Russia, then he was a khan, it's like with the Tablets. He will not be released from Germany alive.

      Why? The main thing here is that the attending physician is not Moses. yes well, the one who, according to legend, broke the Tablets laughing
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 24 August 2020 17: 12
    20
    Of all these "poisoned" clowns, I feel sorry for only one - the one who really suffered, at the hands of the excellent British special services, the Skripals' cat.
    1. Clear
      Clear 24 August 2020 23: 03
      +8
      Quote: RUnnm
      Of all these "poisoned" clowns, I feel sorry for only one - the one who really suffered, at the hands of the excellent British special services, the Skripals' cat.

      By the way, the British believe that the Skipal cat, infected by the Novichok, has nevertheless swum across the English Channel and now, judging by Zelensky's bright speeches, is abundantly sowing a nerve-parasitic infection on the mainland lol
  • newcomer
    newcomer 24 August 2020 17: 15
    18
    Yushchenko, take two! Tikhonovskaya get ready. laughing
    1. halpat
      halpat 24 August 2020 17: 19
      +7
      Quote: newbie
      Yushchenko, take two! Tikhonovskaya get ready. laughing

      Tikhonovskaya has a definite plus that will save her - she fries delicious cutlets for the entire coordination council. Bernard Levy was praising this morning.
      Grit: 6 Michelin stars, no less !!
      1. iConst
        iConst 24 August 2020 17: 25
        +8
        Quote: Halpat
        Bernard Levy was praising this morning.
        Grit: 6 Michelin stars, no less !!

        Chet for some cutlets it hurts generously. Looks like the aunt is doing something else well, besides cutlets ... wink
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 24 August 2020 20: 34
          +4
          Quote: iConst
          Looks like aunt is doing something else well, besides cutlets ...

          Omelet? lol
        2. FenH
          FenH 25 August 2020 06: 49
          0
          Quote: iConst
          Quote: Halpat
          Bernard Levy was praising this morning.
          Grit: 6 Michelin stars, no less !!

          Chet for some cutlets it hurts generously. Looks like the aunt is doing something else well, besides cutlets ... wink

          no, levi is a homosexual and aunts are not interested hi
      2. newcomer
        newcomer 24 August 2020 17: 25
        +4
        Thinking to pay off? belay You can't get Levi with a cutlet, although repeatEtc.
        1. halpat
          halpat 24 August 2020 17: 31
          +5
          Quote: newbie
          Thinking to pay off? belay You can't get Levi with a cutlet, although repeat

          who knows ... feed the whole life with frog legs ... or you will sing
          and here is a pork cutlet, it smells like garlic, ruddy, squirt.
          and a glass of ice bison with a pickled cucumber.
          that's why he travels around revolutions - the menu diversifies.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 24 August 2020 17: 36
            +3
            Maybe she, Facebook, Levy with the same end in the same place laughing , seasoning there, in a cutlet repeat Etc.
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 18: 12
          +2
          Quote: newbie
          You can't get Levi with a cutlet, though ...


          Levi must be dost. Although he is still a more media character ..
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 24 August 2020 19: 12
            +4
            Cutlets without pork are not quite right, but judging by their last name, they look like a representative of the Jewish nation, and they seem to be like pork.
            1. cost
              cost 24 August 2020 22: 14
              +3
              So this is the Orthodox. and there are such a minority. A couple of years ago, my brother-in-law with his wife, both St. Petersburg teachers decided to go to Israel to see historical sights. We bought a tour for seven days, cameras, video, planned the places where they want to go. So the historical excursion did not work out for them. smile By chance we met our college classmate Boris there ... and all 7 days we got drunk with his family. laughing Instead of the planned photos of historical places, only photos from joint parties, beaches, bars and home barbecues were brought laughing Why am I doing this? And to the fact that the photographs and videos clearly show the process of making pork and beef barbecues and kebabs and the joint Russian-Jewish fact of their destruction under the appropriate washing laughing
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 24 August 2020 22: 18
                +3
                Well, I myself came to visit my classmate .... they tortured the liver for a week laughing
      3. Stas Sv
        Stas Sv 24 August 2020 18: 42
        +2
        Throw off the link to her in youtuber about kakletki, even I can not find
        1. Clear
          Clear 24 August 2020 23: 16
          +8
          Quote: Stas Sv
          Throw off the link to her in youtuber about kakletki, even I can not find

          Stas, cutlets only until 18 pm. After no, no No.
        2. cost
          cost 25 August 2020 00: 42
          +1
          Throw off the link in youtuber about kakletki, even I can not find

          For God's sake wink

          link: https: //otvet.mail.ru/question/21571807
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 24 August 2020 17: 19
      +4
      Most likely Navalny is two in one Yushchenko (pseudo-poisoning and promotion of the topic in the media) and Tikhanovskaya (she will also broadcast from abroad under the control of foreign special services).
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 24 August 2020 17: 27
        +2
        Undoubtedly.
      2. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 25 August 2020 15: 22
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Most likely Navalny is two in one Yushchenko (pseudo-poisoning and promotion of the topic in the media)

        Yes! Yushchenko ate crayfish, and Bulk lobster. smile
  • demiurg
    demiurg 24 August 2020 17: 20
    11
    Of course there was poison. Blue is evil as early as the seventies of the last century spoke.
    And at about the same time they said that vodka with any drug should not be interfered with.
    What the poor fellow used after drinking is actually unimportant. And not the fact that drugs are in their pure form, perhaps just strong drugs from Budun.
    But that was enough for Sisyan. And now people with bright faces are frantically trying to come up with a logical explanation for how the next Bashirov and other KGB poured psilobicins / LSD / coke into the tea of ​​the great fighter against corruption.
    Which is unknown at whose expense he flew on a special plane to Germany.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 24 August 2020 19: 13
      +2
      They write moonshine drinking ..... hmm ..... the tails have not been removed and they insisted on bird manure .. if you can eat such half a liter in one person, you can click with flippers ..... here my mother-in-law does it simply
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 24 August 2020 17: 33
    +3
    They said that he was poisoned.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 24 August 2020 17: 35
      +7
      Either poisoned or not: in Germany they cannot name the cause of Navalny's coma
      pancake doctors ... I can tell the diagnosis, he has a "bulk" brain. IMHO.
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 24 August 2020 17: 56
      +4
      Quote: Deniska999
      They said that he was poisoned.

      The poison was not found, but it was poisoned. it happens laughing
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 24 August 2020 20: 09
        +3
        Quote: Doliva63
        The poison was not found, but it was poisoned. it happens
        Novodvorskaya once bit her tongue, now this ...
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 25 August 2020 19: 28
          0
          Quote: Simargl
          Quote: Doliva63
          The poison was not found, but it was poisoned. it happens
          Novodvorskaya once bit her tongue, now this ...

          Well, what is equal? There is at least some benefit from this - I learned, for example, what Zolotov is laughing
  • svp67
    svp67 24 August 2020 17: 49
    +4
    Quote: Theodore
    He self-destructed .....

    The liver was still able to digest it ...
  • RUSS
    RUSS 24 August 2020 21: 25
    -5
    Quote: Theodore
    There was poison! He does not deny it! But! He self-destructed .....

    According to the results of a diagnosis carried out by German doctors, Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a substance from the group of cholinesterase inhibitors
    At the same time, what kind of substance caused the poisoning is not yet known: the effect of cholinesterase inhibitors was revealed "repeatedly", according to the results of several independent laboratory studies. Doctors are planning additional tests.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 24 August 2020 23: 24
      +3
      Quote: RUSS
      According to the results of a diagnosis carried out by German doctors, Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a substance from the group of cholinesterase inhibitors

      Type in this phrase in the search box and you will get a good list of certified drugs, based on the very inhibitors used to treat a number of nervous diseases ...
  • Clear
    Clear 24 August 2020 22: 21
    +8
    in Germany can not name the cause of Navalny's coma

    It is obvious that there is a struggle between the "Hippocratic Oath" and the interests of politics
  • RUS96
    RUS96 25 August 2020 09: 27
    +3
    .....................
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 24 August 2020 16: 58
    +4
    Shawarma stalls should be checked around the airport. Lech had a snack there. Shawarma, she's like that, you can easily glue the flippers
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 24 August 2020 17: 03
      -3
      Quote: Piramidon
      Shawarma stalls should be checked around the airport. Lech had a snack there. Shawarma, she's like that, you can easily glue the flippers

      Yes, those who are going to encroach on the throne shouldn't eat shawarma .. it's not for nothing that the king even wraps seagulls with him on trips ..
  • Kefir
    Kefir 24 August 2020 16: 58
    21
    This artist Navalny, like Efremov .. In the course of the PR, he closed his fund FBK (went bankrupt)))))
    The Germans are scratching their heads now, what to do with him .. But they met his "body" at the airport as a special flight!
    14 escort cars with flashing lights .. Fourteen Karl !!!!! From whom were they guarded?
    Laughter and sin with these "PR people and the best minds in Europe" ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 August 2020 17: 32
      +5
      Quote: Kefir
      This artist is Navalny, like Efremov .. In the course of the PR, he closed his FBK fund (went bankrupt)

      That in Russia from time immemorial they love the holy fools is a well-known truth. But I did not think that in the West they are loved more than in Russia, and most importantly not their holy fools, but Russian ones.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 25 August 2020 14: 51
      0
      Quote: Kefir
      This artist Navalny

      Falling into a coma is of course the highest aerobatics of artistry.
  • Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 24 August 2020 16: 58
    +8
    Either poisoned or not: in Germany they cannot name the cause of Navalny's coma

    Hiley Likes 2.0? Either a girl, or a vision.
  • Coconut
    Coconut 24 August 2020 16: 59
    +7
    Either poisoned or not
    And I honestly don't give a damn ... there are people for whom the heart really hurts .. and this "patriot" well, as I said ...
  • georggy
    georggy 24 August 2020 16: 59
    +6
    An old trick. How to get everyone's attention. And those and these.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 24 August 2020 17: 08
      +8
      Just as Yushchenko was once promoted on pseudo-poisoning, so they want to promote Navalny. The Anglo-Saxons are predictable and straightforward. The first words that come to mind are the words of the classic. Bored girls.
      1. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 25 August 2020 15: 28
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Bored girls.

        Classics (that Ilf and Petrov, that Delvig) said "girls", and "girls" is another character said. repeat
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 August 2020 17: 20
      +3
      Quote: george
      An old trick. How to get everyone's attention. And those and these.

      Tired of these childish tricks, then Yuscha was trashed, then Skripals, now Letsik, well, at least the record was changed, they found something else. Everything is the same primitive. That now all Lotsik's cats need to be eliminated, the airport must be degassed, and quarantined.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 24 August 2020 20: 11
        -2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Well, at least they changed the record, found something else.
        People hawala the same.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 24 August 2020 20: 53
          -2
          Quote: Simargl
          People hawala

          Havat like a shawarma from a dirty diner.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 August 2020 17: 00
    0
    There, not far from the bridge, is there no one to bring this dump to him like Nemtsov, “for an eternal walk?” All the dignitaries of Russia are tired of the dog! I made a bruise of some kind, so I caught a "quail bird", alconaft. ..
  • halpat
    halpat 24 August 2020 17: 00
    +2
    In Germany, they said that the poisoning of Alexei Navalny may be "partly likely"

    Who would have doubted! highly likely you almost certainly fellow
  • viktor.
    viktor. 24 August 2020 17: 01
    -4
    May God grant him health! what more can you wish him, BRAIN? If only.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 24 August 2020 17: 10
      -1
      Maybe in a German clinic they will decide to have an operation to implant the BRAINS?
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 24 August 2020 20: 13
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Maybe in a German clinic they will decide to have an operation to implant the BRAINS?
        There is a bone. If they only drill a place ...
      2. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 25 August 2020 06: 53
        +1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Maybe in a German clinic they will decide to have an operation to implant the BRAINS?

        ... his old one has not yet taken root. His body rejects foreign matter lol
  • paul3390
    paul3390 24 August 2020 17: 03
    +4
    Wherever and from what he glued his flippers - the sanctions are one hell of a thing for us .. Although it is obvious that it makes no sense for the authorities to poison him with a rotten cheburek. For she endured - zero without a wand, spent zilch, no one interesting for a long time. And you never know what the special services have real poisons, from which they squint instantly and without any trace?
    1. halpat
      halpat 24 August 2020 17: 12
      +4
      It makes no sense for the authorities to poison him with a rotten cheburek.

      laughing laughing
      You really are talking like a layman !! Any liberal will prove the opposite to you ...
      My evening took place, I will be havin 'before going to bed :)))
  • iouris
    iouris 24 August 2020 17: 04
    0
    A statement about a possible crime, apparently, was never received, a criminal case was not opened, since the body, containing possible signs of poisoning, was taken either abroad or to the capital. I don't really care.
  • Katanikotael
    Katanikotael 24 August 2020 17: 05
    +2
    Yes, as usually happens at social events, went through with absinthe, sniffed an antidepressant before the flight ...
  • Alien From
    Alien From 24 August 2020 17: 05
    +2
    A pathetic attempt to take this miracle out of the country ........ cure and let them keep it ........)))
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 25 August 2020 09: 35
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      A pathetic attempt to take this miracle out of the country ........ cure and let them keep it ........)))

      For me, it would be better if Usmanov and Medvedev were taken out
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 24 August 2020 17: 08
    11

    It is highly recommended for viewing.
    1. Lyokha has a recognizance not to leave, actually. Here he outplayed everyone, of course - they took him out, though in his interests, but not of his own free will. Bravo!
    2. For today, i.e. on 24.08.20 at 15:00 Alexei had an appointment. Those. he was supposed to appear as a defendant in the case of insulting the honor and dignity of not some ordinary oligarch, but a 90-year-old veteran. International concerns would not help here.
    3. Aleksey turns out to be almost a whole week before falling ill seems to be drinking. And it is very likely not childish.

    Somehow he is strange, I would say mythically begins to resemble the son of the respected artist Oleg Nikolaevich Efremov, who was born in 1963. Such different people, and in a similar way, avoid court hearings. The trend, however.
    But we wish both health. And Mikhail Olegovich, and Alexei Anatolyevich. Live long, be healthy. Don't cough.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 24 August 2020 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: Shuttle
      Lyokha has a recognizance not to leave, actually. Here he outplayed everyone, of course - they took him out, though in his interests, but not of his own free will. Bravo!

      What kind of subscription? He regularly traveled abroad on vacation, including last year. Previously, he was exposed on trips abroad - like donates' money he spends on himself, but now he has a subscription wassat
      Quote: Shuttle
      For today, i.e. on 24.08.20 at 15:00 Alexei had an appointment. Those. he was supposed to appear as a defendant in the case of insulting the honor and dignity of not some ordinary oligarch, but a 90-year-old veteran.
      So what? The maximum penalty would be soldered to him.
      Quote: Shuttle
      Alexey turns out to be almost a whole week before he seems to have been drinking. And it is very likely not childish.

      The manual has been updated for trolls ?! He went live on Thursdays
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 24 August 2020 23: 17
        +1
        Well, you're not a troll, but a cyber warrior on a campaign
      2. Shuttle
        Shuttle 25 August 2020 01: 41
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn

        Previously, he was exposed on trips abroad - like donates' money he spends on himself, but now he has a subscription wassat

        https://mobile.twitter.com/navalny/status/1284037883549057025
        You should at least ask Alexey. Well, it's a shame not to know about the sharperfuehrer [German, leader of schoolchildren, school leader] such important moments.


        He went live on Thursdays

        And what is the contradiction? Or do you have the Internet only by registration?
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 25 August 2020 08: 57
          +1
          Quote: Shuttle
          ttps: //mobile.twitter.com/navalny/status/1284037883549057025
          You should at least ask Alexey. Well, it's a shame not to know about the sharperfuehrer [German, leader of schoolchildren, school leader] such important moments.

          So why was he able to go to Tomsk ?! It means that the deadline has already expired, or maybe there is no subscription - only Navalny's tweet informs about this, and this is never an official document. And after the trial it would have been annulled in any case, because the case is an administrative one. Because of this, in whom they do not lie down to go abroad.
          Quote: Shuttle
          And what is the contradiction? Or do you have the Internet only by registration?

          And the fact that he was sober on Thursday, as anyone can see by watching the video on YouTube.
          1. Shuttle
            Shuttle 25 August 2020 20: 25
            0
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Quote: Shuttle
            ttps: //mobile.twitter.com/navalny/status/1284037883549057025
            You should at least ask Alexey. Well, it's a shame not to know about the sharperfuehrer [German, leader of schoolchildren, school leader] such important moments.

            So why was he able to go to Tomsk ?!

            If you received permission from the investigator who imposed the sanction, then the law has not been violated. And if he didn’t receive it, he violated it. Let's see what the investigator says.
            Quote: Stirbjorn

            This means that the deadline has already expired, or maybe there is no subscription - only Navalny's tweet reports about this, and this is never an official document.

            Oh, yes. I understand - could Aleksey pryprehnut about the subscription in your opinion? Well, you don't think highly of the person involved.

            Quote: Stirbjorn

            And after the trial it would have been annulled in any case, because the case is an administrative one.

            Penalty - part 2 of Art. 128.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
            Read more at RBC:
            https://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/08/2020/5f43ba319a7947d199513fdb

            Quote: Stirbjorn

            Because of this, in whom they do not lie down to go abroad.

            Quite a legitimate way to slip away. Force majeure, you will not dig.



            Quote: Stirbjorn

            Quote: Shuttle
            And what is the contradiction? Or do you have the Internet only by registration?

            And the fact that he was sober on Thursday, as anyone can see by watching the video on YouTube.

            Which video? What time?
            By the way, flight S7 2614 Tomsk, TOF --- Moscow, MOW on Thursday took off at 7:55 am MSK.
            So what time did Alexei perform hard on Yutubchik?
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 25 August 2020 21: 03
              +1
              Quote: Shuttle
              Penalty - part 2 of Art. 128.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

              What a crime ?!
              2. Slander, contained in a public statement, a publicly displayed work or the media -
              is punished with a fine of up to one million rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to one year, or compulsory work for a period of up to two hundred and forty hours.
              Quote: Shuttle
              Which video? What time?
              By the way, flight S7 2614 Tomsk, TOF --- Moscow, MOW on Thursday took off at 7:55 am MSK.

              this video, dated August 13, and you wrote above that he "did not drink like a child" for a week before he got sick.https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = HMXv2zvVkEU & list = PLMnzjxOFrGPlGym3nGPscKzN7v2xN27I- & index = 15 = 0s (Big broadcast about Belarus. Tikhanovskaya. Strikes. Special forces)
              Quote: Shuttle
              Oh, yes. I understand - could Aleksey pryprehnut about the subscription in your opinion? Well, you don't think highly of the person involved.
              The fact is that he flew to Tomsk, and no one announced any violation. He should have been turned back at the airport in Moscow if he was under a subscription. My opinion about Navalny is not important here, absolutely.
              1. Shuttle
                Shuttle 26 August 2020 08: 13
                0
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                Quote: Shuttle
                Penalty - part 2 of Art. 128.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

                What a crime ?!
                2. Slander, contained in a public statement, a publicly displayed work or the media -
                is punished with a fine of up to one million rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to one year, or compulsory work for a period of up to two hundred and forty hours.

                I would venture to suggest that your life is just beginning and therefore no one has yet had time to tell you the difference between administrative and criminal liability. So write down:
                Administrative responsibility is regulated by the RF Code of Administrative Offenses.
                The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (CC RF) - main and only source of criminal law, the only normative act establishing criminality and punishability of acts on the territory of the Russian Federation.
                h. 2 tbsp. 128.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is an article of the Criminal Code. So do not let such a mild punishment mislead you. This is precisely a criminal offense, not an administrative offense ..

                Quote: Stirbjorn
                [
                Quote: Shuttle
                Which video? What time?
                By the way, flight S7 2614 Tomsk, TOF --- Moscow, MOW on Thursday took off at 7:55 am MSK.

                this video, dated August 13, and you wrote above that he "did not drink like a child" for a week before he got sick.https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = HMXv2zvVkEU & list = PLMnzjxOFrGPlGym3nGPscKzN7v2xN27I- & index = 15 = 0s (Big broadcast about Belarus. Tikhanovskaya. Strikes. Special forces)

                I did not claim, but only suggestedthat Aleksey Anatolyevich had drunk not childishly all the previous week. Those. exactly from 13 to 20. But your video on which it is hard not 19, not 15, not 14, and not earlier than the 13th just confirms my assumption. Yes, yes, yes, adjusted for one day. :)


                Quote: Stirbjorn
                [
                Quote: Shuttle
                Oh, yes. I understand - could Aleksey pryprehnut about the subscription in your opinion? Well, you don't think highly of the person involved.
                The fact is that he flew to Tomsk, and no one announced any violation.

                This is not a fact, but an assumption. Until. Wait and see. Now the situation is force majeure. When Alexey (God grant him good health and good honest doctors) recovers and becomes capable again, then we'll find out.

                Quote: Stirbjorn
                [
                He should have been turned back at the airport in Moscow if he had been signed up. My opinion about Navalny is not important here, absolutely.

                It doesn't work that way. He himself had to ask permission in writing from the person who imposed a preventive measure on moving to another locality. And get a written answer. Perhaps he did so. Maybe not. We don't know this yet. Employees of Russian airports cannot stop him because of his recognizance not to leave. They are not notified about it. But if the investigator had summoned Alexey at the specified time and place, and he would not have appeared without a good reason, then he would have been put on the wanted list, and then his police representatives at the airports would have detained him.
                Here is a simple and intelligible statement about recognizing his own recognizance.
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 24 August 2020 17: 10
    +3
    You need to search where and to whom all this hype with the poisoning of the oppositionist is beneficial! The authorities do not need this, there remains either a sacred sacrifice on the part of Western partners, or one of their own is holding a grudge!
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 August 2020 17: 10
    -5
    Did Putin's guardsmen harass the "Fool"? laughing
  • newcomer
    newcomer 24 August 2020 17: 10
    +2
    There is a parable about an evil doctor and his good disciple. Somehow, their creative views on life diverged, well, the duel of the sorcerer mentor with the wizard apprentice ...
    The student repulsed the attack. His turn, he offered the teacher a glass of water. The teacher, believing in his own strength, swallowed and died, but before dying he asked in surprise what kind of poison had brought down the all-powerful sorcerer. The student replied that the teacher died of his own poison in his soul, and the water, ordinary, is drinking. As proof, I finished my glass of water. Something like this.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 25 August 2020 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: newbie
      As proof, I finished my glass of water.

      I suppose I mixed in opiates, and before drinking, I sniffed "Narcan".
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 25 August 2020 09: 29
        0
        No. The moral of this parable is as follows: the sorcerer was so poisonous that, having swallowed pure water, his own inner poison killed him.
        No apiates or cyanites could defeat the almighty sorcerer, only pure water.
  • sergey2183
    sergey2183 24 August 2020 17: 12
    +4
    Those who support him will not be taken to Germany on a special flight. So after that let them think.
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 24 August 2020 20: 16
      +2
      Quote: sergey2183
      So after that let them think.
      First you need to grow a thought, then use it. And where to grow the support? There is a bone.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 24 August 2020 17: 12
    +1
    in Germany can not name the cause of Navalny's coma

    Poor fellows, in their medical reference books there is no such fixed dose of booze and chicken in the blood. Therefore, they cannot understand anything. Probably the instruments were taken in for verification.
    Happiness to you, Anatoly Skripalny! And health! A living country needs you now more than not alive. Strange, but true.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 24 August 2020 17: 13
    0
    In Germany, they said that the poisoning of Alexei Navalny may be "partly likely." This version was voiced to the press by the representative of the Federal Republic of Germany government Steffen Seibert.
    fool German doctors should say from the beginning, then a representative of the Federal Republic of Germany government and SMRAD.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 August 2020 17: 49
      +2
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      German doctors should say from the beginning, then a representative of the Federal Republic of Germany government and SMRAD.

      Of course, the German doctors will say that they poisoned me. Well, they can't imagine that "theirs" drinking rate is thu for us. But our drinking norm is for Germans poisoning with an HUGE dose of alcohol.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 25 August 2020 09: 24
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Of course, the German doctors will say that they poisoned me.

        Since the time of Suvorov it has been known: "What is in health for a Russian, the death of a German."
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 18: 16
      +1
      There is a special clinic for a campaign, where oppositionists are used, so to speak, from all over the CIS. They say there Yulechka was repaired
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 24 August 2020 17: 17
    +1
    Deep intoxication due to chronic shitiness.
    But seriously.
    Either an international treaty, or his cunning initiative (which may have instructions from foreign patrons as a starting point) in order to slip out of the investigation.
    Now there will be a rotten foreign pennant of the fragrant "color" of the opposition, a pillar of Russian crap.
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 24 August 2020 17: 33
    -2
    Yes a no brainer (newbie) it!
  • Old partisan
    Old partisan 24 August 2020 17: 37
    +5
    What to talk about. A standard hypoglycemic coma rolled well, drank pills for diabetes, and another coffee without sugar, and hello, Archangel Gabriel. And then the poisons are newbies in-x gases ...
  • Avior
    Avior 24 August 2020 17: 42
    -1
    ... Russian doctors talk about metabolic disorders

    Is it not the same doctors who first announced that this suspicion of sodium oxybutyrate poisoning was not the first time?
    Maybe doctors need to take a more responsible approach to such a statement?
  • Well done
    Well done 24 August 2020 17: 45
    +1
    Now blown up to polonium. And there, you see, and Novichok! Great Martyr Navalny, an innocent victim of the Kremlin! Would have died as soon as possible!
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 24 August 2020 17: 46
    0
    A sacred sacrifice is the fate of the "orange" revolutions who think they are Fuhrer, although it is possible that we still do not know everything about our body. Based on the stated
    "somewhat probable"
    , you can admit your own vision - the Fuhrer's brains cease to be friends with physiology, as a result, the immune system begins to develop "Agent Orange". Shaved with an awl, in 2004, Yushchenko is an example.
  • cniza
    cniza 24 August 2020 17: 46
    +3
    Navalny was even called a "guest" of the German Chancellor, emphasizing his special status.


    Why would a guest take him for yourself, he will be your Chancellor and rejoice ...
  • Kurare
    Kurare 24 August 2020 17: 48
    +2
    "The doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue" (c) Probably something like that. Sacred sacrifice and regime repression.

    He will surely get well. But, to be honest, after all this circus, he will not be allowed back to Russia. Now let him show his performance, like the well-known Pavlensky, in Europe.
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 24 August 2020 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: Kurare
      Now start up your performance, like the well-known Pavlensky
      I would just cover this woodpecker - let him sit until someone hatches ...
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 24 August 2020 17: 55
    +2
    Quote from RBC
    “The team of doctors carefully examined the patient after his arrival. Clinical results indicate intoxication with a substance from the group of active ingredients cholinesterase inhibitors. The specific substance is still unknown "- said the German doctors
    <...>
    Now he is being treated with the antidote Atropine.

    Well, who would have doubted, the newcomer is take 2. They will hold it on atropine for a couple of days until it turns into an ovash, then another hysteria will begin. I loaded beer into the fridge, waiting for the circus to start. drinks
  • APASUS
    APASUS 24 August 2020 18: 01
    +2
    It is clear only one thing, no matter what happens, whoever bullies him - Putin is to blame! Now the question arises from here, why would Putin need it? After all, Tolik is just playing by his rules, he very much suits our government with his sometimes ridiculous actions. But if Tolik is bullied, then many can build on this the political career of fighters against the regime, not only in our country, but also in the West!
    So who is the customer?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 August 2020 18: 01
    +5
    Official Germany in the person of Speaker Merkel, that is, at an extremely official level, said that it was "fairly likely" that Lechaim was poisoned, in connection with which he needs "special protection" - dropping to idle speculation, since German doctors are still they have not made any conclusions at all, and it was enough for her to say, for example, let's not engage in speculation and gossip, but just wait for the experts.

    Well, the Western press, of course, widely circulates this idiot vyser - by the link below, for example, CNN - and "forgetting" to point out the fact that German doctors are still silent. Just think, a trifle :-)

    This is the degree of degradation. laughing https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/24/europe/alexey-navalny-germany-poison-grm-intl/index.html. Мировой суд района Южное Медведково в Москве решил приостановить производство по уголовному делу Алексея Навального о клевете в связи с его болезнью. Об этом пишет РИА Новости из зала суда.

    well, one goal achieved laughing
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 25 August 2020 11: 34
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      ... since German doctors have not yet made a conclusion at all, and it was enough for her to say, for example, let's not engage in speculation and gossip, but just wait for the experts.

      Already done this morning. The result, as expected, was that the poison was "found."
      Even if there is no poison there, it must be invented or injected! The flywheel is running and no one will stop it, because then they would have to make excuses and, God forbid, apologize.
  • Kibl
    Kibl 24 August 2020 18: 01
    0
    But I am not at all sorry for this bastard. I myself have brought my body to the handle and now they are running around with him like fools with you. Lyosha, stay longer in a state of coma. Without you, it's so quiet, so good and so little stench ...
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 24 August 2020 18: 02
    -6
    The Kremlin again caved in under the geyropku, first the case had to be suspended and then Navalny had to be released

    Court suspends case against Navalny on defamation of a war veteran
    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/08/2020/5f43ba319a7947d199513fdb
  • megadeth
    megadeth 24 August 2020 18: 13
    +2
    So much stench because of a traitor drunk, maybe someone had an enema ... to drive a handful of clothes down the throat ..., already tired of drunk Efremov, then Navalny, we have "Voennoe obozreniye" or yellow water .. ?
  • ciujoilu
    ciujoilu 24 August 2020 18: 14
    +1
    It was necessary to call English experts to check the body for poisoning, they would have found poison
  • parusnik
    parusnik 24 August 2020 18: 16
    +1
    Well, yes, well, yes .... "How do you kill you right away or do you want to suffer?
    - Better, of course, to suffer "(c). ... White sun of the desert-2 smile In the role of Sukhov,
    A. Navalny ... Merkel as Vereshchagin ... smile
  • Yurahip
    Yurahip 24 August 2020 18: 17
    +1
    What is it, they did not poison it again, chlorophos is in their hands!
    In the cafe, cockroaches were poisoned, but apparently the glass was not washed, but just then Alyoshka wanted coffee!
    Well, comedy like Bari Alibasov on an international scale!
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 24 August 2020 18: 39
    +1
    Diagnostics carried out in the Berlin clinic "Charite" showed that the Russian blogger and opposition leader Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a substance belonging to the group of "cholinesterase"
    Worms poisoned !?
  • Avior
    Avior 24 August 2020 18: 40
    0
    There were reports that a cholinesterase inhibitor was found in his body, now they are studying which one.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 24 August 2020 18: 45
    -3
    and not who did not think that Putin that the bulk is one project! the bulk was released from the Russian Federation, although he was under a subscription under investigation! navan affects children, youth and future voters! He was met in Germany by 14 cars 2 ambulance special forces with state military officers of Germany and etc. cordoned off the hospital Shas hospital cordoned off and so they do not want to know they do not want to lose someone who is entrusted with the Russian government after Putin and so on! simple is a big game of opposition of power and external forces! Well, either I don't understand something! and so a shame for mistrust of the doctors of the Russian Federation!
  • Oleg Olkha
    Oleg Olkha 24 August 2020 18: 55
    +3
    Coincidence ... "Novichok" - a family of organophosphorus toxic agents of nerve action, acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. .. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
  • Hog
    Hog 24 August 2020 18: 57
    0
    But he didn't have to drink the palette, otherwise they poisoned his poor fellow.
  • Well done
    Well done 24 August 2020 19: 00
    0
    PR from the series "Was there a boy?"
  • Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 24 August 2020 19: 02
    0
    Can they zombie him there or turn him into a cyborg?
  • jaroff
    jaroff 24 August 2020 19: 03
    0
    It is strange that there are no versions about corny not washed hands or burning alcohol
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 24 August 2020 19: 05
    -2
    Quote: Kefir
    fund, then he closed his FBK (went bankrupt)))))

    Is it true? O_o
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 24 August 2020 19: 15
    +2
    Most likely, if professionals from the special services really took place at the incident, then everything would have ended.
    If the plane in Tomsk did not urgently land, but flew further to Moscow, then everything would have ended. By the way, this is the only thing that the authorities do.
  • parathyron
    parathyron 24 August 2020 19: 18
    +1
    Yes, tactics to attract attention and sympathizers, as well as the means for political struggle. As old as the world.
    The ancient Greek dictator Pisistratus resorted to a similar trick to come to power. Wikipedia: "Pisistratus drove in a wagon to the Athenian agora, all wounded, and said that political opponents tried to kill him while he was driving in the field. At a public meeting, Pisistratus offered to give him a detachment of bodyguards. Ancient authors wrote that he wounded himself, then to seize power with the help of the guards ... Pisistratus was given a detachment of bodyguards armed with clubs. The number of the detachment varies in sources: from 50 to 300 people. Soon, with their help, Pisistratus freely occupied the Acropolis and became a tyrant. "
  • ltc22A
    ltc22A 24 August 2020 19: 20
    -2
    Navalny was poisoned with a new agent: "navalnonok" - alcohol + caffeine. He is from fear, constant stress.
  • Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 24 August 2020 19: 30
    +2
    It should be noted that part of Navalny's "roof" was lit up. This is VimpelCom (Beeline). They have odious figures in the media, such as Amnuel (sorry if I distorted the name), and the core of the liberals is quite serious. Such intrusive participation of Europe is also understandable. Many of our "elites", such as the leaders of VimpelCom, are "their own" there, and Navalny is their man.