The fruits and roots of the Belarusian protest: discussed by Konstantin Semin

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The fruits and roots of the Belarusian protest: discussed by Konstantin Semin

How does the Belarusian opposition act today? To answer this question, it should be noted initially that what is happening today on the streets of Belarusian cities is actively fueled by the West. At the same time, in the same European Union, no one hides that they are going to interfere in internal Belarusian affairs. The thesis is being advanced: if the West interferes, then it is "for freedom and democracy", and if Russia allows itself at least some step, then it is "invasion, interference, support of authoritarianism."

For participants in the protest movement, there is a whole "revolutionary" code. Among other things - a boycott of work at enterprises, persecution of those who support the current Belarusian government, even more persecution of those who support rapprochement with Russia.



Journalist Konstantin Semin raises the issue of what is happening in Belarus in his issue of Agitprop.

Syomin tries to focus on the main root of the protest movement. At the same time, he emphasizes that this protest is practically not connected with the economy, because in terms of GDP per capita, the Republic of Belarus is almost twice as large as such countries of the “victorious democracy” as Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia. The author of the program emphasizes that the decline in living standards did indeed occur, but it only happened practically all over the world due to the epidemiological crisis.

Semin cites as an example the developed Belarusian industry, the social orientation of the economy of the Republic of Belarus.

Konstantin Semin and his new issue of Agitprop about the fruits and roots of the Belarusian protest:

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    1. +6
      24 August 2020 07: 06
      At the same time, in the same European Union, no one hides that they are going to interfere in internal Belarusian affairs. The thesis is being promoted: if the West interferes, then it is “for freedom and democracy”, and if Russia allows itself at least some step, then it is “invasion, interference, support of authoritarianism”.
      Here zhezh nits, "the Evil Empire" - this is not the USSR, it is just the United States, but who in his own eye will see a log?
      1. +8
        24 August 2020 07: 28
        We are today about * eternal values ​​* that have survived only in Europe, America and a little in the colonies.
        It seems to me that in * free media * Europe the stake is made on those who have no memory and the ability to think otherwise how to understand their publications * yesterday * and * today * on the same topic.
        It is a pity that imported media are freely distributed in our country. It seems to me that everything should be proportional - how many RUSSIAN editions are published in Europe, exactly as much can be allowed to distribute imported media in RUSSIA. This should be done with all imported media.
        It comes to an anecdote, in Europe it publishes a libel and spread it in our country, but in Europe itself, RUSSIAN media are not allowed to the reader. Or if they print something frankly misinterpreting. I myself saw in the German media a heavily edited interview with VV PUTIN. In Europe, this is considered the norm.
        1. -1
          24 August 2020 09: 51
          Quote: Semin
          Lukashenka saw perfectly well that Abkhazia, Ossetia, Donbass, and Crimea are just projects of Russian capital behind the screen of post-Soviet nostalgia.
          I here with Semin, of course, agree, but is he really popular with such ideas among the masses? I thought the masses were imbued with the ideas of "geopolitics".
      2. +12
        24 August 2020 08: 26
        Political and economic review. Belarus. I think this review could be supplemented by Konstantin Semin.
      3. +1
        24 August 2020 08: 27
        Here you are right as never before!
      4. 0
        24 August 2020 20: 09
        Come on, every empire wants to expand the zone of influence if Russia does not have the strength and technology who is to blame. At the protests, Russian flags were not burned, but against the cockroach, let Russia help the cockroach strangle and put the pro-Russian Tsepkalo or Babariko
      5. 0
        27 August 2020 09: 29
        Not that word, the world has never seen anyone meaner and more cynical than the Anglo-Saxons!
    2. +10
      24 August 2020 07: 14
      For the first time with the liberally colored fraternity (although such terms were not in use then) I got acquainted during the USSR when the events in Riga took place with the Riga OMON.
      They were very excited about what was happening in Riga and already then looked forward to future events.
      It was useless to argue with him.
      Continuous hiss about freedom and the overthrow of the hated regime.
      And after all, then there was not yet that mass of pro-American organizations on the territory of the USSR ..
      Apparently there is such a layer of liberals by birth in every society.
    3. +2
      24 August 2020 07: 19
      Let's be honest. That there are no protest movements in nature ... there is a vital interest in the redistribution of property ... and borders are not a hindrance. And the state is not an obstacle if there is money if there is manual media. Because it is much easier to seize and destroy than to do with your own labor and brains ... and there are always those who are not happy with someone who lacks either a beer or a Lexus ...
      As a result of the destruction of the USSR, Belarus was thrown into the periphery. It did not have significant useful resources. Powerful industrial potential. But it dug out and showed a stable position ... but all good things come to an end. Stable Belarus is like a thorn in the eye of the capitalists who run the states. the state can also manage the economy. It is unbearable.
      1. +4
        24 August 2020 08: 47
        Let's be honest. There are no protest movements in nature.
        No, no. The uprising of Spartacus occurred solely from mercantile considerations - to wrest property from snickering patricians. The Great French Revolution, like our October Revolution, also wanted to be forged into white bone / blue blood. All Russian peasant revolts had an absolutely pragmatic basis: take away and divide. Well, and that the estates with all the good were burned, this is not out of a feeling of protest, but simply because they wanted to warm up.
        No, there are no protest movements in nature.
        1. -1
          24 August 2020 08: 57
          Quote: Dalny V
          No, there are no protest movements in nature

          No, if the struggle is without clear goals, then it is a riot. Black redistribution. Or, as they say now, protest movements. And if the struggle has a theoretical basis, clear goals. And an ultimate goal that can satisfy the majority of members of society, it is a revolutionary movement.
          1. +2
            24 August 2020 09: 07
            if the fight is without clear goals, then it is a riot
            Is rebellion not a movement? Do not engage in verbal balancing act. The organized revolutionary movement appeared relatively recently. Everything that came before this fell under the definition of "riot", while being precisely a protest movement.
            1. -1
              24 August 2020 10: 37
              Quote: Dalny V
              Everything that came before this fell under the definition of "riot", while being precisely a protest movement.

              The slave wanted to become a slave owner, a serf feudal lord ... no one wanted to become a man ... no one protested against the existing system, everyone wanted to fit in well ... even the great French revolution with its beautiful slogans freedom, equality, and brotherhood could not awaken the human ... everything rested on property.
        2. +4
          24 August 2020 09: 19
          No, there are no protest movements in nature


          That is exactly what happened!
          For Spartacus, the reason for the uprising was slavery, and the goal was revenge on the patricians and the desire to take their place.
          About France and October, coupled with the February revolutions one to one - the veiled slavery of the poor and the desire to "eat from the belly" and sleep on silk sheets, and that the barchuk would serve. What's wrong?
          Well, pogroms, and fires - that's why a riot, senseless and merciless. They burned them because they were sure that they wouldn’t let them take over. So don't get it to anyone.

          In any case, it was the struggle for the good that drove people.
          Some rebelled, others defended self-appointed privileges.
          There were, of course, cases of "blood feud", or, as now, an offense at vote rigging (where, in which country are the elections absolutely fair?), But this is not the root cause of the protests. This is just an excuse to ignite the "oppressed", the electorate
          And now in Minsk, as before in Vilnius, Riga, Tbilisi, Kiev ... people are lured with the same conventional "silk cowards", discounts in Polish and Lithuanian hypermarkets, visa-free travel and other benefits.
          And to understand that all the gold toilets won back in the future have already been "divided" by the top, which does not risk in the squares, but sits on the other side of the Internet and the Protestants will only get blood, dirt, beatings and useless chores, coupled with a worsening financial situation, pride does not allow.
          Everyone considers himself very smart and is sure that a golden rain will surely fall on him.
          As soon as we put the evil Luka on a stake, the Poles and the Americans will immediately open the money. Will not fight back from free subsidies and interest-free loans.
          Yeah, just keep your pocket shorter. Or wider.
          Where is our rake?
          1. 0
            24 August 2020 09: 54
            For Spartacus, the reason for the uprising was slavery, and the goal was revenge on the patricians and the desire to take their place.
            Oh how. And I thought that the goal was to get rid of slavery, and revenge on patricians is already a side effect.
            About France and October, coupled with the February revolutions one to one - the veiled slavery of the poor and the desire to "eat from the belly" and sleep on silk sheets, and that the barchuk would serve. What's wrong?
            No, not like that. With February, the topic is generally murky, you don't even want to touch it - you will drown. But with the French and October revolutions, it was the popular protest that was primary there, and “taking away and dividing” is the aforementioned side effect.
            Well, pogroms, and fires - that's why a riot, senseless and merciless. They burned them because they were sure that they wouldn’t let them take over. So don't get it to anyone.
            And where did you manage to consider pragmatism with commercialism?
            In general, who told you that the slogan "Take away and divide" cannot be the driving force of the social protest movement? laughing laughing laughing
            1. 0
              24 August 2020 11: 21
              So, all the same - a protest based on the "idealistic honest peace in the whole world" (or taken separately) or is it "take away and divide"?
              You decide...
              My opinion is that loot still rules and even Spartak will reap the halo.
              1. 0
                25 August 2020 00: 53
                protest based on the "idealistic honest peace in the whole world" (or taken separately), or is it "take away and divide"? You will decide ...
                This remark of yours is not in the cashier at all, is it? My opponent Apro stated that
                that there are no protest movements in nature
                I objected that there is. Under what slogan is the protest movement, in this case the tenth thing. If you try to take away tasty salmon from a bear, and he chops off your arm / leg / head for this, then this will also be an exclusively protest movement on his part - in response to your stupid arrogance. About any
                "Idealistic honest world in the whole world"
                the bear will not dream at this moment.
    4. +1
      24 August 2020 07: 20
      I listened to what enticements they had prepared for people and now they are being scattered ... VERY CLEVER !!! Everything is simple, understandable and can really be realized ... but only in the dreams of those who cannot get off the willow tree in any way, the naive is shorter.
      Anyway, people will be led to this because they have been prepared for this for a long time !!!
      Honestly, all the horror stories from the opposite side can, can be carried out ... but all this is very unconvincing, doubtful, often half-hearted, FAILURES !!!
      In short, everything can become very ... uncomfortable, or even sad, for our "wise men" for example!
    5. +8
      24 August 2020 07: 33
      This video has already been posted on VO, readers in the comments. Semin is right as always.
    6. -2
      24 August 2020 07: 58
      The enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR are the same for all 100 years after the October Revolution. This is what they wanted to overthrow the Bolsheviks with the help of the anti-Soviet-Russophobic West and Europe, that with the help of the West and Europe they arrange against each other "color" coups on the territory of the captured USSR, that with the help of the West and Europe they now want to arrange a revolution in Belarus.
      1. +4
        24 August 2020 08: 12
        Quote: tatra
        want to make a revolution in Belarus.

        A coup. Is a change of ownership. A revolution is somewhat different. A transition to the next stage of development.
        1. +1
          24 August 2020 08: 15
          A coup is a change of power without a change in the socio-economic system, which the enemies of the communists on the territory of the captured Soviet Union suit against each other. And the revolution, as in October 1917 and in the anti-Soviet Perestroika, is both a change of power and a change of the System.
          1. +2
            24 August 2020 09: 51
            Quote: tatra
            And the revolution, as in October 1917 and in the anti-Soviet Perestroika, is both a change of power and a change of the System.

            Perestroika is counterrevolution, since there was a rollback of the system back to capitalism. Not even sideways, but backwards.
          2. +1
            24 August 2020 10: 43
            Quote: tatra
            ..... And the revolution, as in October 1917 and in the anti-Soviet Perestroika, is a change of power and a change of the System.
            Wrong. Anti-Soviet perestroika is not a revolution, it cannot be compared with 1917. It is a counter revolution. After all, I wrote above apro. .
            ....the revolution......
            transition to the next stage of development
            And in the catastrophe there was a return to the previous stage of development.
        2. 0
          24 August 2020 20: 06
          Lower? All the same, a revolution.
      2. +7
        24 August 2020 08: 24
        Eh Irina !!! The enemies of the communists are in their heads and personal ambitions !!! I declare this to you as a member of the CPSU from 1979 to 1991. Therefore, the current communist parties are a gathering of careerist politicians under the slogans of the 20th century !!
        1. -5
          24 August 2020 08: 29
          Enemies of the communists flock to debating historical political sites to prove that none of you are capable of elementary discussions. And all your answers to me have nothing to do with the essence of my comments, always in response only anger against me and the communists.
          1. +5
            24 August 2020 09: 20
            I am not spiteful against you and the communists !!!! I just wanted to note that the world is developing and the best should be taken from the past and, on the basis of the past positive experience, to develop the communist ideology, and not to manipulate the ideology and achievements of the USSR-CPSU for personal purposes. Unfortunately, today's communists rely more on the past ideological guidelines of the 20th century and do not develop ideological (not to be confused with programmatic) guidelines in accordance with the needs of the people of the 21st century, so that the communist ideology again becomes attractive to a wide range of the population. And about the discussion - how can you discuss with a person who sees only one desire for "MALIT" in everyone?
          2. 0
            25 August 2020 16: 53
            Well, let's debate. In the winter of 1918, Larisa Mikhailovna Reisner, on whose orders the historic shot from the cruiser Aurora heralded the beginning of the revolution, kept a large staff of servants in marble palaces and took baths of five varieties of champagne when almost the whole country was starving. They tried to reprimand her, and Reisner squinted in bewilderment: - Did we not make the revolution for ourselves?
        2. +1
          24 August 2020 08: 30
          Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
          this is a gathering of careerist politicians under the slogans of the 20th century !!

          I think for them slogans are like a screen ... to monetize the desires of the electorate. This is about the Communist Party, the official opposition party, which has recognized the right of private ownership of the means of production and setting prices.
        3. +1
          24 August 2020 08: 58
          Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
          Therefore, the current communist parties are a gathering of careerist politicians under the slogans of the 20th century !!

          It would be nice if only that, as well as now it is full of "world-eaters-capitalists".
          Now is the time for the communists to come out and defend Lukashenka ... and where are their votes?
          1. +1
            24 August 2020 10: 32
            Quote: svp67
            ..... Now is the time for the communists to come out and defend Lukashenka ... and where are their votes?
            I was very surprised by the plot of one "left" ..... well, quite the opposite. I try to find it again and refine it until I find it ...
    7. 0
      24 August 2020 08: 09
      Lord, who does it have to be to watch his video. Like a nightingale, like a seed of one field of berries.
      Or have they forgotten how the latter called the telegram users terrorists? Moreover, telegrams are now available to everyone :)
      1. -3
        24 August 2020 08: 15
        Quote: Bad
        Lord, who does it have to be to watch his video.

        Probably a person who is not indifferent ... to the country. To people ..
    8. -3
      24 August 2020 08: 23
      Quote: apro
      Quote: Bad
      Lord, who does it have to be to watch his video.

      Probably a person who is not indifferent ... to the country. To people ..


      Watching the yellow channel? Who was caught not once or twice, or ten times on distorting the facts? A channel that manipulates opinion as they please?
      A person who is not indifferent will ANALYZE many sources, get to the point and the truth, and only then draw conclusions.
      But not very smart people will watch TV and believe everything that is shown there.

      And Semin does not analyze anything, he is given a ready-made text and he tells it.

      What the hell is a developed industry in Belarus? No one needs their trucks, even in Siberia, foreign analogues of Belaz are becoming more and more at the open-pit mines. MAZ? Have you seen them on sale in the same Europe? We sell more URAL motorcycles in the world than all their trucks, consider that there are no first and ten thousand.
      All IT companies work abroad, or are registered abroad - labor is simply cheaper.
      Percentage of GDP per capita? Are we playing an economic simulator on a computer? These are people's lives, not numbers. Compare GDP then already with Europe, otherwise they always compare the values ​​with those who are weaker.
      The authorities have a crazy psychopath who already walks with a machine gun, and moreover, he armed his 15 year old son with it, this is a direct violation of the Laws.
      1. 0
        24 August 2020 08: 39
        Quote: Bad
        Watching the yellow channel?

        For me, red.
        Analysis on the basis of what? If class and civilizational interests, then yes Semin is right. If with chasnosovstvenichiskih then of course it’s wrong. What kind of analysis?
        Quote: Bad
        What the hell is a developed industry in Belarus?

        Yes, even takaya.ona all the same face to the person, unlike yours.and not about galoshes.zero.nulled on this topic have heard enough.Belorussia to the best of its ability.
        Quote: Bad
        The authorities have a crazy psychopath who already walks with a machine gun, and moreover, he armed his 15 year old son with it, this is a direct violation of the Laws.

        If I had such a situation, I would also fool my idiot into defending my homeland.
      2. +2
        24 August 2020 08: 39
        Quote: Bad
        In power ......., who already walks with a machine gun, and moreover, he armed his 15 year old son with it, this is a direct violation of the Laws.

        It was he Salvador Allende who wanted to portray ... it was like that, the result is really not ah ...
        Quote: Bad
        What the hell is a developed industry in Belarus?

        Industry is there, development, innovation is not ah .... as a result, competitiveness is also not ah. As always in such cases, either someone pulls along (guess who?), Or they take prices (guess at the expense of whom?).
        But what will be the result if the one about whom it is not necessary to guess, stops helping, pulling ???
        1. +1
          24 August 2020 08: 52
          Quote: rocket757
          competitiveness

          This is the key word ... the USSR is remembered as it was not competitive.azh horror ... and it was urgent to destroy it ... and then .... to build something competitive .... how did they build it ????
          1. +2
            24 August 2020 09: 09
            What does the USSR have to do with it? It is not there, even the union state is NOT ... a boom to build relationships in the realities that are.
            1. +1
              24 August 2020 10: 24
              Quote: rocket757
              What does the USSR have to do with it? It is not there, even the union state is NOT ... a boom to build relationships in the realities that are.

              I would very much like the Union State to take place after all!
              1. +3
                24 August 2020 10: 51
                Quote: Reptiloid
                I would very much like the Union State to take place after all!

                It's like "blue dreams" in which almost no one believes ...
                1. +1
                  24 August 2020 11: 26
                  At least right now, the LAS hurried up !!!!!!
                  1. +2
                    24 August 2020 11: 35
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    At least right now, the LAS hurried up !!!!!!

                    hurry up, but WHERE?
          2. 0
            24 August 2020 10: 35
            So what have they built? Competitive ability is replaced by dependence on the West. Understand this issue, and then state your thoughts.
            1. 0
              24 August 2020 10: 50
              Whom do you ask? What is the question then?
        2. +1
          24 August 2020 10: 18
          soldier good morning Victor! It is interesting that before the elections the Arab League spoke about his son Kolya something like this: “no, he will not go to my place. He is a liberal.” What was that? Again the desire for 2 chairs?
          1. +2
            24 August 2020 10: 55
            Quote: Reptiloid
            What was it? Again the desire for 2 chairs?

            In the direction of "dad" the concept "as simple as three kopecks" does not fit! Cunning and wise very much.
            1. +1
              24 August 2020 11: 22
              Quote: rocket757
              ....... In the direction of "dad" the concept "as simple as three kopecks" does not fit! Cunning and wise very much.
              well, yes, just now, what we have, what is in Belarus and learned that there are festivals and awards there under collaborationist slogans under the patronage of the Arab League recourse
              No matter how it turns out that he will outsmart himself. Everything went to this.
              1. +1
                24 August 2020 11: 35
                Quote: Reptiloid
                No matter how it turns out that he will outsmart himself. Everything went to this.

                So all of them, very wise who, flirt with the nationalists, are trying to perch up on independence! And this beast is very wayward, carnivorous, can easily grudge, which often happens!
                1. 0
                  24 August 2020 11: 40
                  Quote: rocket757
                  ..... So all of them, very wise who flirt with the nationalists, are trying to perch up on independence! And this beast is very wayward, carnivorous, can easily grudge, which often happens!
                  one could say about them, if anything, they say, is to blame. But only around many people, as a result of them, are drawn into long-term hardships, sometimes with the death of entire regions ...
                  1. +1
                    24 August 2020 12: 09
                    Those goats with entertainers can pull a lot of trouble and leave!
    9. -5
      24 August 2020 08: 56
      Quote: apro
      This is the key word ... the USSR is remembered as it was not competitive.azh horror ... and it was urgent to destroy it ... and then .... to build something competitive .... how did they build it ????


      So you ask Putin this question, not us :) He has been in power for almost a quarter of a century.
      But I found the USSR, and for the most part I like Russia more.
    10. +1
      24 August 2020 10: 51
      Moving away from class thinking, I decided to look at the essence of the issue from the other side. A new era has already begun 2000 years ago. And the Christian ideology could not help leaving its mark on any formation. When the state and the authorities treat their people in a Christian way, everything is kept with any ideology. Otherwise, it is destruction. Take Cuba. Socialism does not reject belief. Moreover, it condescends (I mean power) to a person's weaknesses, offering him higher ideals. Yes, the Cubans do not live richly. But from this they do not feel flawed. So do the Vietnamese. But for someone else. I don't like it. They blaspheme against Vietnam that the richest there earn 10 times more than the poor. We would have such a difference. 20 people fell ill with coronavirus, and the whole world announced that there was an epidemic. And for the religion, who does not like it, sorry. But this is a historical process.
    11. +2
      24 August 2020 19: 07
      “Even the IMF admits (although it is not profitable for it) that“ in different years, the volume of total net support to Belarus from Russia varied from 11 to 27% of GDP. ”On average, almost $ 10 billion a year. And in general, Russian aid over the past twenty years is estimated by various experts from 130 to 170 billion dollars. "(c).

      All Belarusian economic "miracle" and social orientation
      exist on the money of Russia, and at the expense of Russia!
    12. -6
      24 August 2020 22: 05
      How does the Belarusian opposition act today? To answer this question, it should be noted initially that what is happening today on the streets of Belarusian cities is actively fueled by the West.


      Well, the American resident, Mr. Semin, whose family lives in the United States, of course, knows better that the country where he studied and trained is muddy. laughing

      1. 0
        25 August 2020 16: 54
        Quote: pereselenec
        Well, the American resident, Mr. Semin, whose family lives in the United States, of course, knows better that the country where he studied and trained is muddy.

        a very primitive technique - to discuss not the topic of conversation, but the speaker.
        1. -3
          25 August 2020 17: 02
          Quote: Nubia2
          Quote: pereselenec
          Well, the American resident, Mr. Semin, whose family lives in the United States, of course, knows better that the country where he studied and trained is muddy.

          a very primitive technique - to discuss not the topic of conversation, but the speaker.


          The soundest thing to do is to first see who the scammer is.
          In 1943, I would not listen to what a Bavarian resident is crowing about the USSR. Also, in 2020, I will not listen to an American resident about Belarus, who provided his family with an alternate airfield in the USA, and his child - mattress citizenship.
    13. +1
      25 August 2020 16: 53
      The author looked at the floor of the eye and listened at the floor of the ear.
      Semin just says that the reasons for the crisis are precisely economic.

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