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Combined military grouping is being created in Belarus

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The Belarusian Armed Forces continue the planned training of servicemen at training grounds and in other places. The state agency BelTA was informed about this by the Ministry of Defense of Belarus.


Moreover, the military aviation continues to fly in airspace, protecting the borders. To accomplish this task, Yak-130, An-26 and Su-30SM aircraft are involved.

At the same time, a consolidated military grouping is created, which includes tank, airborne, motorized rifle and artillery units. The electronic warfare subunits, which are part of it, occupy temporary positions where they will be engaged in reconnaissance, suppression of satellite radio navigation receiving terminals and comprehensive technical control in the areas of operation of the troops. The group also includes the calculations of unmanned aerial vehicles. In addition, according to the Belarusian TV channel STV, the group will include several helicopters, which are being transferred from Machulishchey to Lida.

Tank and motorized rifle units are engaged in equipment, improvement of positions, creation of a fire system and other preparatory measures.

The soldiers of the 120th separate mechanized brigade are connected to the border guard, using reinforcement means.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 23 August 2020 16: 33 New
    -7
    "Tank and motorized rifle units are engaged in equipping, improving positions, creating a fire system and other preparatory measures."

    Probably finding fault or just not in the subject.
    But what is the "creation of a fire system" which the units are engaged in.
    What a "position improvement" class.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 16: 39 New
      10
      Quote: Livonetc
      "Tank and motorized rifle units are engaged in equipping, improving positions, creating a fire system and other preparatory measures."

      Probably finding fault or just not in the subject.
      But what is the "creation of a fire system" which the units are engaged in.
      What a "position improvement" class.

      Well, they are repairing the fortified area. The rains have passed. request
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 23 August 2020 16: 50 New
      -27
      Quote: Livonetc
      "Tank and motorized rifle units are engaged in equipping, improving positions, creating a fire system and other preparatory measures."

      Probably finding fault or just not in the subject.
      But what is the "creation of a fire system" which the units are engaged in.
      What a "position improvement" class.

      It is difficult to describe the movement of troops in a country the size of Belarus. It’s like a bear from side to side in a cage wagging its head. It grins. With all its appearance I’m talking. And all the hunters armed to the teeth are taking pictures around. They are busy with their business. The bear is in the cage. ... bully
      It seems that the army is being prepared to suppress the protests. Or is it just that?
      And there people are completely nonsense and this is fake?
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 23 August 2020 17: 13 New
        -1
        The crowd and riot police will be enough for that
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 23 August 2020 17: 33 New
          -30
          Quote: Stalllker
          The crowd and riot police will be enough for that
          Good. Your opinion has been heard. hi
          Then what is it? Formation of a kind of NKVD army? Well, if we think logically, suppress the rebellious units, and the units of the same OMON that can go over to the side of those 10% who voted against Lukashenka?
          We are discussing the article if that. Not me. No one. Article !!!! If there are smart and capable of thinking, connect.
          1. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 23 August 2020 19: 08 New
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            Quote: Observer2014
            Then what is it? The formation of a kind of NKVD army?

            This is a kind of preemptive work. That would not be repeated as in the Outskirts, when power was seized by a handful of nationalist criminals who had been wept and prepared by the State Department, and the current government was afraid to give the order to the army to suppress this coup. As a result, rabble thirsty for Slavic blood poured across the border. Lukashenko's supporter, of course, all the more like his protests did not teach anything, why it was necessary to close the factories and threaten the workers who expressed their dissatisfaction with the power of the long-liver and his family shamelessly enriching themselves on this? If the people do not hear, then the army will not help. The main thing is to separate the people from trained zapadentsev skillfully using the troubles of people for their own purposes.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 23 August 2020 22: 14 New
              -17
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              Quote: Observer2014
              Then what is it? The formation of a kind of NKVD army?

              This is a kind of preemptive work. That would not be repeated as in the Outskirts, when power was seized by a handful of nationalist criminals who had been wept and prepared by the State Department, and the current government was afraid to give the order to the army to suppress this coup. As a result, rabble thirsty for Slavic blood poured across the border. Lukashenko's supporter, of course, all the more like his protests did not teach anything, why it was necessary to close the factories and threaten the workers who expressed their dissatisfaction with the power of the long-liver and his family shamelessly enriching themselves on this? If the people do not hear, then the army will not help. The main thing is to separate the people from trained zapadentsev skillfully using the troubles of people for their own purposes.

              I'll cheer later, I'm so stupid wink
          2. Stalllker
            Stalllker 23 August 2020 19: 13 New
            +5
            They cannot go, if the riot police wanted to do it, they would have gone over long ago
            1. Naive
              Naive 23 August 2020 21: 00 New
              -17
              300-400 $ in cash for junior staff per day or very severe repression ... It's hard to go over to the side of the people and now it's too late.
              1. bistrov.
                bistrov. 24 August 2020 05: 56 New
                +1
                Quote: Naive
                go over to the side of the people

                And who said that the people are “holding a meeting?” These are all sorts of renegades paid for by the Western special services, incl. many foreigners. The people have no time to "hold a meeting", they need to earn a living.
          3. itis
            itis 24 August 2020 19: 56 New
            +1
            and what is the avatar for Insurgent?
            divorced here with limited liability ...
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 23 August 2020 18: 01 New
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          Quote: Stalllker
          The crowd and riot police will be enough for that

          Enough is not enough - time will tell. But here's what touches me personally - all the protests under the one-day (no history) flag of the local separatists of 1918. Polish flashes. What's this?
          For example, in Khabarovsk, people are increasingly coming out with red flags (less often with imperial ones), but in Belarus there is a bad (and heated) flag nationalism. There is such a science, political technology. The creation of symbolism is one of the most important aspects. Confucius is credited with the phrase - "Signs and symbols rule the world, not word and law." It doesn't matter if he said it, but it is. Now they will designate a symbol of protest, then it will become a family. The principle is similar to "Overton windows". We are being divided (and we are one people), and with the tacit consent of "our" authorities. Now we can only be united Red flag, this I, as a monarchist, say and affirm. Not too late. hi
          P, S. There will be no red, the national flags of the so-called minorities will bloom. For example, look at the chronicles of the protests in Kushtau - only national flags, not a single red one. Where this will lead - Chechnya of the 90s as an example.
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 23 August 2020 18: 17 New
            -9
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Stalllker
            The crowd and riot police will be enough for that

            Enough is not enough - time will tell. But here's what touches me personally - all the protests under the one-day (no history) flag of the local separatists of 1918. Polish flashes. What's this?
            For example, in Khabarovsk, people are increasingly coming out with red flags (less often with imperial ones), but in Belarus there is a bad (and heated) flag nationalism. There is such a science, political technology. The creation of symbolism is one of the most important aspects. Confucius is credited with the phrase - "Signs and symbols rule the world, not word and law." It doesn't matter if he said it, but it is. Now they will designate a symbol of protest, then it will become a family. The principle is similar to "Overton windows". We are being divided (and we are one people), and with the tacit consent of "our" authorities. Now we can only be united Red flag, this I, as a monarchist, say and affirm. Not too late. hi
            P, S. There will be no red, the national flags of the so-called minorities will bloom. For example, look at the chronicles of the protests in Kushtau - only national flags, not a single red one. Where this will lead - Chechnya of the 90s as an example.



            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 23 August 2020 18: 20 New
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              Watch the video of the Observer above. And do not trump any more exceptions. The one-day flag, without history is a fact. And he was made a symbol of protest - a fact. The smart one will draw the right conclusions. hi
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 23 August 2020 18: 46 New
                +4
                With the flag, everything is really simple. It really became a symbol of protest, but not as a historical flag and not as the flag of the Belarusian People's Republic of 18th. And like the flag of the Dolukashenka republic. The flag existed as a state flag for several years, and it was under it that Luke took the oath.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 23 August 2020 18: 49 New
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                  Quote: rudolff
                  some years

                  Three years. And he did not become a symbol for the inhabitants of Belarus, as the referendum showed.
                  With the fact that this is an artificially created, anti-Russian symbol, won't you argue? hi
                  1. rudolff
                    rudolff 23 August 2020 20: 29 New
                    +4
                    I can explain. And fill some of your gaps in knowledge of the modern history of Belarus. Luka then positioned himself as the collector of the lands of the disintegrated USSR, advocated the restoration of a new Union. The return of the BSSR flag was a kind of PR move by Luka. But this was not a public inquiry initially. White-red-white, in principle, suited everyone, no one put a special meaning into it, except perhaps the BPF, which made it state-owned. The BPF linked him with the BPR in 18, since there were no other Belarusian republics in history and the BPF, yes, these are Belarusian nationalists. But now, believe me, for those who go to rallies with him, this is not a symbol of terry nationalism, it is not a symbol of the BPR and BPF, it is definitely not an anti-Russian symbol. For the absolute majority, this is a symbol of the Dolukashenka Republic and the Dolukashenka Constitution. That's all. There is no need to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if it is not there. BPF has long been blown away and its supporters are not even a minority, but rather at the level of statistical error. The white-red-white flag is now a symbol of Lukashenka's resistance. No more. There was simply no other. Although from the point of view of historical justice, Chase on a red monotonous background has more rights to exist.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 23 August 2020 20: 39 New
                      +7
                      Quote: rudolff
                      White-red-white, in principle, suited everyone, no one put a special meaning into it,

                      Those. herd, as in any other state.
                      Quote: rudolff
                      But now, believe me, for those who go to rallies with him, this is not a symbol of terry nationalism, it is not a symbol of the BPR and BPF, it is definitely not an anti-Russian symbol.

                      This is a symbol of protest that is so aptly (right? wink ) was at hand. And by the way, Polish ones flicker in the overlap with the striped flag. True, so far (!) Is rare.
                      I understand perfectly well that this flag was carefully slipped to the protest-minded part of society (which swallowed this bait), but I wang that this was done deliberately, and not without reason that this stuffing will take root. hi
                      1. rudolff
                        rudolff 23 August 2020 21: 05 New
                        +4
                        I have already written on this topic, so I will repeat myself.
                        If initially the protest movement in Belarus could be called spontaneous, now the interested parties are really trying to take control of it. These are the Baltics, Poland, Ukraine, the European Union, and the States. Except for Russia, which has taken a purely pro-Lukashen position. So why are they surprised that Russian flags are not visible, but Polish ones appeared? African ones will appear soon.
                        If Lukashenka failed to prevent this "disgrace", Russia had and still has the opportunity to lead him. Negotiate with Tikhanovskaya, representatives of Tsipkalo, Babariko, achieve repeat elections and nominate their own candidate. Believe me, in this situation, half of all the flags at the rallies would be Russian. And now ... After Putin congratulated Lukashenko on winning the elections, many consider Russia a traitor. That Russia does not need Belarusians, but purely territory and industry. If the Kremlin continues to support Lukashenka, then he may keep him, but Belarus will lose forever.
                        What do you think, Ingvar, why did the former President of Poland Kwasniewski suddenly turn to European politicians with a warning not to insist on Lukashenka's departure? Because he perfectly understands that there will be no Union of Belarus with Russia with Luka! But with the other ... it is unknown.
                      2. ole1
                        ole1 23 August 2020 22: 50 New
                        0
                        Yes, it is completely incomprehensible why the Russian Federation immediately took an inflexible "pro-Lukashenka" position and reduced the space for maneuvers. It was quite possible to take a pause, not to react to Luka in any way, to quietly negotiate with the same Tsepkalo, who was actually on the territory of the Russian Federation at one time.
                      3. rudolff
                        rudolff 23 August 2020 23: 12 New
                        +1
                        And not just pro-Lukashenka's, but actively pro-Lukashenka's. An employee of the Investigative Committee of Belarus, after the start of the protests, as a sign of disagreement with the actions of the authorities, resigns and leaves for Russia. In Pskov he is detained and some "unknown people" are driving him back to the territory of Belarus. This is a scandal of the last day. So is it any wonder that Tseplalo chose to leave Russia, while Tikhanovskaya is hiding in Lithuania? They are afraid that Russia will surrender them!
                        A strike was announced at BT. Some of the employees quit, some were fired. A group of television men from Russia came to replace them. Brotherly help!
                        I hate to say this, but I see how the attitude of ordinary Belarusians towards Russia is changing right before our eyes.
                      4. ole1
                        ole1 23 August 2020 23: 27 New
                        +1
                        I wonder who is supporting Lukashenka now? Pensioners? The military, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, some of the workers?
                      5. rudolff
                        rudolff 23 August 2020 23: 58 New
                        +1
                        Everyone you named. But these are no longer large parts of these groups, but smaller or even insignificant ones. It was a personal discovery for me that even pensioners began to turn away from him, the most loyal part of his electorate in the past. Law enforcement agencies are a bit apart. Especially the police. There, the percentage "for Lukashenka" is perhaps higher than anywhere else.
                2. Garris199
                  Garris199 24 August 2020 15: 57 New
                  +1
                  I completely agree. It is already a tradition of our authorities to constantly bet on the wrong horse. Then we are surprised that the CIS countries gravitate towards the West, and not towards Russia. And Lukashenko pursues exclusively his own selfish interests, he will need to portray an enemy from Russia in five minutes. The story of the Wagnerites is a very recent example of this.
              2. pro100y.belarus
                pro100y.belarus 23 August 2020 22: 55 New
                -1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Those. herd, as in any other state.

                How familiar it is. Straight from the speech of the "leader of the nation".
                Thanks for the "brotherly" definition. I'll have to write on the poster.
              3. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 24 August 2020 07: 11 New
                +5
                It's my pleasure. If you are not able to look wider, then there is nothing I can do about it. request
                And the word "herd" is applicable to any crowd, in any state, as I wrote about.
              4. ccsr
                ccsr 24 August 2020 12: 01 New
                +4
                Quote: pro100y.belarus
                Thanks for the "brotherly" definition. I'll have to write on the poster.

                If you were our brothers, you would long ago have united with Russia into a single state, and not demonstrated your parochialism. So write whatever you want on the posters, but now we are looking at your speeches and we understand that you are the same "Ukrainians", only you do not openly declare this yet, because you are smart enough to understand that you simply cannot live without Russia, and your destiny to pick apples in Poland in the future.
          2. Alber alber
            Alber alber 24 August 2020 01: 07 New
            +4
            In history, this flag was recognized twice, in the aforementioned 18g by the Austrians, in order, by analogy with the ruin, to make from Belarus another antagonist of the Republic of Ingushetia and in the Second World War, the Fritzes, to create symbols for local collaborators to fight the Belarusian underground
      2. disyptiformer
        disyptiformer 24 August 2020 04: 25 New
        +2

        rudolff "The flag is really simple. "
        Still simpler:

        and more

        And here are their little desires
        https://freebelarus.livejournal.com/157502.html
        Compressed:
        Main goals / objectives of the reform
        The main goal of reforming the national security sector is the urgent mobilization and consolidation of society in order to protect independence and sovereignty
        Tasks:
        Strengthening national identity, increasing patriotism and national dignity;
        Consolidation of society based on democratic values ​​and the idea of ​​building an independent Belarus;
        Reducing the Kremlin's influence on Belarus through informational, economic, integration and humanitarian factors;
        Leaving post-Soviet integration associations dominated by Russia;
        Integration into Western political, economic and military structures (EU, NATO).
        Basic steps to implement the concept
        Priority actions (until 2021)
        1. In the political sphere:
        Withdrawal from the “Union State”, the Eurasian Union, the Customs Union and other integration entities dominated by Russia;
        a ban on pro-Russian organizations whose activities are contrary to national interests, as well as Russian funds and organizations that finance such structures;
        Introduction of criminal liability for public statements that dispute the existence of a separate Belarusian nation and / or its historical right to its own state. Introduction of criminal liability for public insults of the Belarusian language;
        Civil society monitoring of the activities of pro-Kremlin initiatives in Belarus;
        Implementation of border and customs control on the border with Russia
        2. A ban on the sale of Belarusian infrastructure facilities to Russian companies.
        3. In the information sphere:
        Liberation of independent media from pressure and control from the state, ensuring freedom of the media and freedom of speech in Belarus;
        Banning the broadcasting of journalistic, socio-political and news programs created by Russian TV channels in Belarus;
        Inclusion in the standard TV package of compulsory public TV channels of Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine;
        Restoring the permanent activities of the Public Coordination Council in the field of mass media.
        4. In the military sphere:
        Withdrawal from the CSTO, the return of full control of Belarus over its anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems;
        Removal of Russian military facilities from the territory of Belarus - a communications center in Vileika and a radar station near Baranovichi;
        Strengthening patriotic education in the Belarusian army;
        Translation of educational work in the army into Belarusian;
        Development of border infrastructure on the border with EU countries, increasing the capacity of border crossings.
        5. In the environmental field:
        Prohibition of the commissioning and closure of new hazardous industries in Brest, Mogilev, Svetlogorsk;
        Publication of comprehensive truthful information regarding the construction, safety and operation of the Ostrovets NPP;
        Conducting a broad public discussion about the fate of the Ostrovets NPP
        6. In the social sphere:
        Increasing salaries and improving working conditions for health and education workers
        7. In the field of culture:
        Popularization of national heroes with a bias towards the 19th and 20th centuries;
        Popularization of the personality of Kastus Kalinouski as the political founder of the modern Belarusian nation, as a symbol of the struggle of Belarusians for freedom and independence, and as a figure who should consolidate around himself all those devoted to the values ​​of national Renaissance and the country's independence.
        There is always one exit
        1. rudolff
          rudolff 24 August 2020 08: 30 New
          +2
          I can now post a photo of the Vlasovites under the Russian tricolor, under the Andreev one, a photo where they are next to the Nazis. There are slightly earlier photos of Nazis with a swastika developing alongside the Olympic ones during the last pre-war Olympics. So what? Get lost in righteous anger and start ripping dirty flags? Everywhere has its own, but it is important what ordinary and normal people think and feel. Believe me, the attitude towards the fascists in Belarus is the same as in Russia. What flags the traitors were waving, few people know, but everyone remembers Khatyn. Although from a historical point of view, the Belarusian flag should be different. Perhaps the Chase on a monotonous red background.
          As for the text you quoted, it initially appeared on the website, then Luke began to quote it, and then it multiplied and began to walk on the Internet. This is a common provocation. They pulled out the old program of the Belarusian Natsiks, slightly modified it and laid it out, allegedly on behalf of the protesters who have nothing to do with it. There have already been dozens of speeches on this subject. If a presidential candidate with such a program appeared in Belarus, he would not have won even one percent.
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          2. disyptiformer
            disyptiformer 24 August 2020 10: 31 New
            +2
            rudolff (rudolff) Today, 08:30
            "Believe me ..." The officer's daughter. We will not believe it. It's good that the riot police stopped you.
            You are not ours anymore
          3. ccsr
            ccsr 24 August 2020 12: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: rudolff
            I can now post a photo of the Vlasovites under the Russian tricolor, under the Andreev one, a photo where they are next to the Nazis.

            And we consider them to be traitors and despise them. Do you consider your Belarusians who fought on the side of the Nazis under this flag heroes?
            Quote: rudolff
            . So what?

            A referendum on the flag of Belarus is now considered a circus performance?
            Quote: rudolff
            If a presidential candidate with such a program appeared in Belarus, he would not have won even one percent.

            We have heard this from the Ukrainians more than once, and they have there Zelensky propagandizes openly fascist views on the inhabitants of Donbass, and all Ukrainians are silently snoring into a rag. The same will happen with you, how would you like a nightingale here to fill in about your "peculiarity" - you have no faith, even if you want to throw off Lukashenko, because Yanukovych and I passed through that.
            1. rudolff
              rudolff 24 August 2020 12: 42 New
              -1
              Well, if there is no faith, then there are no problems. To render help to the dad and to reel all these maydanut fascists on the tracks, as many here suggest.
              And by the way, I'm not Belarusian. There is simply an opportunity to watch what is happening from both Russia and Belarus.
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 24 August 2020 13: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: rudolff
              Well, if there is no faith, then there are no problems.

              Yes, I don't see a problem with Belarus - we have our own country, you have your own, so figure it out yourself.

              Quote: rudolff
              To render help to the dad and to reel all these maydanut fascists on the tracks, as many here suggest.

              This is stupidity - either provocateurs or fools can suggest this. If the Belarusians themselves do not want to live with us in the same state, but dream of living well at the expense of Russia, then we need such "brothers" - sort out your local conflict, and do not hope that the Russians will again climb to save someone. We have enough other problems even without Belarus, so "sama-sama ..."
              Quote: rudolff
              There is simply an opportunity to watch what is happening from both Russia and Belarus.

              And what is interesting to observe there, if 10-15 years ago it was clear that the entire "economic miracle" of Belarus is based on cheap energy resources, the country's transit situation and the smuggling of goods to us. Well, here it burst, since the people took to the streets, which means we should again disentangle your experiments? I don’t think so, as, indeed, many in Russia - figure it out yourself, become adults at last and learn to understand what is happening in the post-Soviet space, so as not to create illusions about Russia and its citizens. Maybe then you will understand that you cannot live all the time at the expense of your brothers - you yourself will learn to feed yourself, it will be more useful.
        2. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 28 August 2020 18: 34 New
          -1
          The tricolor was long before the Vlasovites (they did not invent anything, they just took the old symbol) and its history is orders of magnitude longer than that of a specially invented rag for the Jews.
      3. demos1111
        demos1111 25 August 2020 08: 03 New
        -1
        They all have different styles of one Achilles heel. Economy.
        Russia should try to bypass Belarus economically as much as possible. And keep Lukashenka in power for as long as possible. With him, there are no reforms and will not be. He's like a puto.
        Sooner or later, the Nazis will throw him out, and by that time a blockade has to be arranged. Whatever light, no heat and the maximum debt economy. And not a gram of cargo either to Russia or anywhere through Russia.
        Let them trade either only with the west, or die.
        There is no other way. Normally they don't understand, they don't remember goodness. I judge by the relatives of my wife. They work in the countryside. Near Slutsk. 90 percent depends on the Russian market, but still white red white.
  2. Kisa
    Kisa 23 August 2020 19: 04 New
    -1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    The smart one will draw the right conclusions. hi

    that's just calmly without slogans you are not at a party meeting
    How do you distinguish patriotism from nationalism?
    if you put on sweatpants an olympic jacket with the symbols of RUSSIA then this is normal is it a patriot so?
    and if another dude puts on his national trousers in his country, then he is already a nationalist and you will give him so chtoli in the face? ....
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 August 2020 19: 05 New
      +7
      Quote: kitty
      that's just calmly without slogans you are not at a party meeting
      How do you distinguish patriotism from nationalism?

      Can a one-day flag become a symbol of patriotism for you? I think no. But nationalism, yes. hi
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        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 23 August 2020 19: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: kitty
          is patriotism / nationalism an instrument of power or is it a religion for the people?

          Both. hi
      2. Kisa
        Kisa 23 August 2020 19: 41 New
        +4

        didn't quite get your idea about the one-day flag. the party line is changing propaganda is changing flags .... about Vlasov you yourself know. god with them flags. the initial question - is patriotism / nationalism an instrument of power or is it a religion for the people?
      3. pro100y.belarus
        pro100y.belarus 23 August 2020 22: 59 New
        -1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: kitty
        that's just calmly without slogans you are not at a party meeting
        How do you distinguish patriotism from nationalism?

        Can a one-day flag become a symbol of patriotism for you? I think no. But nationalism, yes. hi

        Don't remind us - under what flag did the ROA soldiers go on the attack?
        Is it not under the one that is developing above the Kremlin?
        Pot calls the kettle black...
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 00: 03 New
          +1
          Is it not under the one that is developing above the Kremlin?

          Congratulations lied ...
          “Gradually, all the so-called national military units within the German army received badges with the national colors of their peoples. Only the largest people - the Russians - were denied this. This issue urgently demanded a solution. But here, too, difficulties arose. Historical Russian national colors - white-blue-red - were banned. "

          The ROA sleeve shield is the St. Andrew's cross; combines white, blue and red national colors, but does not contain consecutive stripes similar to the stripes of the flag
          In this regard, the main Russian national symbol used in the Vlasov Russian Liberation Army was not the white-blue-red, but the St. Andrew's flag, which appeared on the sleeve emblems of the ROA
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 24 August 2020 08: 37 New
            +1
            He's not lying. Vsasovtsy insisted on the tricolor, the Germans approved Anreevsky as the official ROA. Nevertheless, the tricolor was used by the Vlasovites in parallel with Andreevsky or as the official symbol of individual ROA units. Also in award badges. There are many photos in the internet, I just don't want to drag this dirt out here.
          2. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 08: 53 New
            -1
            Quote: rudolff
            Nevertheless, the tricolor was used by the Vlasovites in parallel with the Andreevsky

            Actually, the tricolor was banned. And it was used again in May 1945, near Prague.
      4. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 August 2020 07: 13 New
        +3
        ROA? With the flag of the Republic of Ingushetia, which is over 400 years old.
  • Naive
    Naive 23 August 2020 21: 02 New
    0
    And not clever wrong ... Who will judge?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 August 2020 22: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Naive
      Who will judge?

      Time. But it should be understood that even time has no power over the nature of things, and it will only show that it was foolish to wait for the viburnum harvest from the mountain ash. Try to rise above the events and look at perspectives without emotion. hi
  • demos1111
    demos1111 25 August 2020 07: 50 New
    0
    The descendants of the policemen go out under this flag. It will be better without them.
  • Eragon
    Eragon 24 August 2020 12: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Enough is not enough - time will tell. But here's what personally touches me - all the protests under the one-day (no history) flag of the local separatists of 1918.

    Why go so far? This is the flag of the Republic of Belarus 1991-1994. And then this flag did not cause negative emotions in anyone.
    And if about flags ...
    It is necessary to remove the St. Andrew's flag from all ships. This is a symbol of Nazi accomplices. After all, the Andreevsky flag is the official flag of the ROA, it is also on the chevrons. Do you like this approach? Doesn't it look like anything?
    Yes, and the swastika should be banned, at the same time destroying temples throughout India. Aha, and to declare the Indians as accomplices of the Nazis.
    It is necessary to be more careful with labels.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 23 August 2020 18: 09 New
    +5
    Quote: Observer2014
    It's like a bear from side to side in a cage cranks its head, grins. With all his appearance, he speaks here. And all the hunters armed to the teeth take pictures around.

    As one empiricalist Otto von Bismarck (deceased) said:
    “I know hundreds of ways to get a bear out of a den, but none to get it back there. Don't tease the Russian bear. "

    https://polzam.ru/index.php/istorii/item/955-bismark-i-russkoe-nichego
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 23 August 2020 18: 24 New
      -26
      Lara Croft
      As one empiricalist Otto von Bismarck (deceased) said:
      LarOchka, if you fantanize with a clever zakosom. That site VO will lose its individuality. Nauseous from a heap of worthless sites, "clever people" in the form of prepared blanks. You should go from here. I can easily open this page in parallel. The page with "clever expressions "And who will be interested in reading that verbiage? No one. Go learn Bismarck yourself. Suddenly you will find out who it really was. Discuss the article." Otto von Bismarck (deceased): " laughing Well I came up with such a thing to stick into this article. fool negative
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 23 August 2020 19: 03 New
        13
        Quote: Observer2014
        Lara Croft
        As one empiricalist Otto von Bismarck (deceased) said:
        LarOchka, if you fantanize with a clever zakosom. That site VO will lose its individuality. Nauseous from a heap of worthless sites, "clever people" in the form of prepared blanks. You should go from here. I can easily open this page in parallel. The page with "clever expressions "And who will be interested in reading that verbiage? No one. Go learn Bismarck yourself. Suddenly you will find out who it really was. Discuss the article." Otto von Bismarck (deceased): " laughing Well I came up with such a thing to stick into this article. fool negative

        AND YOU ARE THERE ...
        It's like a bear from side to side in a cage cranks its head, grins. With all his appearance, he speaks here. And all the hunters armed to the teeth take pictures around.


        Well I came up with such a thing to stick into this article. fool negative
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 23 August 2020 20: 02 New
          -15
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Quote: Observer2014
          Lara Croft
          As one empiricalist Otto von Bismarck (deceased) said:
          LarOchka, if you fantanize with a clever zakosom. That site VO will lose its individuality. Nauseous from a heap of worthless sites, "clever people" in the form of prepared blanks. You should go from here. I can easily open this page in parallel. The page with "clever expressions "And who will be interested in reading that verbiage? No one. Go learn Bismarck yourself. Suddenly you will find out who it really was. Discuss the article." Otto von Bismarck (deceased): " laughing Well I came up with such a thing to stick into this article. fool negative

          AND YOU ARE THERE ...
          It's like a bear from side to side in a cage cranks its head, grins. With all his appearance, he speaks here. And all the hunters armed to the teeth take pictures around.


          Well I came up with such a thing to stick into this article. fool negative

          Take note. wink For mine, this is mine, then you slap someone. laughing
        2. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 23 August 2020 20: 02 New
          +4
          The observer is, of course, rude, but at the same time, although these quotes are pleasant to the ear of a Russian person, there is not a single proof for a real text with such quotes from Bismarck .. in this I will support his opinion ..
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 23 August 2020 20: 06 New
            +6
            Quote: 2 level advisor
            although these quotes are pleasant to the ear of a Russian person, there is not a single proof of a real text with such quotes from Bismarck ..

            The converse has not been proven either, so let's agree on the fact that
            The observer is of course rude
            1. Liam
              Liam 23 August 2020 20: 16 New
              -9
              Quote: Lara Croft
              Quote: 2 level advisor
              although these quotes are pleasant to the ear of a Russian person, there is not a single proof of a real text with such quotes from Bismarck ..

              The opposite is also not proven,

              The standard awkward excuse of a supernumerary fake hitter when he is caught again
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 23 August 2020 20: 18 New
                +6
                Quote: Liam
                excuse of a supernumerary feycomet when he is caught again

                ... you are apparently in constant the state consists of ...
            2. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 23 August 2020 21: 15 New
              -3
              well, you understand that I can say that "George Washigton said that Alaska will have to be given to the Russians sooner or later, but for this, first you will need to kill all the Mexicans" prove the opposite wink
            3. Observer2014
              Observer2014 23 August 2020 21: 17 New
              -10
              Quote: Lara Croft
              Quote: 2 level advisor
              although these quotes are pleasant to the ear of a Russian person, there is not a single proof of a real text with such quotes from Bismarck ..

              The converse has not been proven either, so let's agree on the fact that
              The observer is of course rude

              laughing He is not rude, but maintains the conversation. Debates. Develops the topic. Well, what's wrong with that? Nothing wrong. For in a dispute, truth is born. By the way, fresh.
              Lukashenko flew to Minsk and got out of the helicopter with a machine gun in his hands
              wink Well, they give us an opportunity like this from the VO website hi To talk! To discuss! To discuss!
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 23 August 2020 21: 23 New
                +8
                Quote: Observer2014
                Lukashenko flew to Minsk and got out of the helicopter with a machine gun in his hands
                wink Well, they give us an opportunity like this from the VO website hi To talk? To discuss. To discuss!

                He is in his country, not on the White House lawn, where he wants there and walks ... Should I have consulted with you?
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 23 August 2020 21: 24 New
                  -14
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  Lukashenko flew to Minsk and got out of the helicopter with a machine gun in his hands
                  wink Well, they give us an opportunity like this from the VO website hi To talk? To discuss. To discuss!

                  He is in his country, not on the White House lawn, where he wants there and walks ... Should I have consulted with you?

                  Well, let it be like this, while there is such an opportunity laughingIt escaped. For her God it escaped, immediately here is a cross for you! recourse
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  • Federal1
    Federal1 23 August 2020 18: 10 New
    -10
    Judas Lukashenko's place has long been in the dustbin of history, the power just loves a belly ..
  • ancestors from Don
    ancestors from Don 23 August 2020 18: 13 New
    -9
    Only the fools still do not see, the Belarusians are tired of Luka, and his rattling with the bolt will not help either Rostov or the armored personnel carrier will end up like Ceausescu. There is just a human sea in Minsk, what kind of riot police, but they will just trample it.
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 23 August 2020 18: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Ancestors from the Don
      There is just a human sea in Minsk,

      ===
      well, yes, the sea. and you broadcast from there. on the Maidan, a hundred or two thousand gathered, and what came of it. Nazis and Banderogi put the country with cancer.
      1. ancestors from Don
        ancestors from Don 23 August 2020 18: 32 New
        -2
        So Luke did not notice how society has changed, by the way, what kind of vision do you have? it's about a hundred, in Belarus there is no negative attitude towards Russia, everyone understands nothing good for them without Russia, and Luka really stopped being president for me when he raised his hand against the people,
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 23 August 2020 19: 01 New
        -16
        Quote: Victorio
        Quote: Ancestors from the Don
        There is just a human sea in Minsk,

        ===
        well, yes, the sea. and you broadcast from there. on the Maidan, a hundred or two thousand gathered, and what came of it. Nazis and Banderogi put the country with cancer.

        I have a feeling that you are confusing a finger with another organ. Do not be offended. But it is so. When the USSR was torn apart, they went under what slogans !? AND!? So why doesn't it smell like democracy now? You wanted to fill your gut? where he temporarily stayed "by hand".
        1. Alber alber
          Alber alber 24 August 2020 01: 22 New
          +3
          Answer the question why all joint ventures, both Poltsko-Belarusian, Lithuanian, and others, do not go on strike, but only state enterprises are on strike, maybe someone needs it so that they can divide the property there, clean the market from competitors, think about it, maybe there is no such gigantic weariness of Belarusians from bows? And where is the leader, who in Lithuania, and not on the barricades, does not call people into battle, with a machine gun or with a brick only. There are a lot of questions and inconsistencies, don't be, but simplification, a la people are tired of the dictator, akin to copy-paste about Bismarck with Alaska. At the same time, he is by no means a fan of the cockroach, but he is not a yanyk, he has testicles, which is not enough
      3. Naive
        Naive 23 August 2020 21: 06 New
        -17
        Well, our country puts cancer only onions with the help of the Kremlin ODIOTS!
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 22: 04 New
          +8
          Where is at least one Kremlin building in Minsk, can you show it?
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            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 23: 53 New
              +6
              Quote: pro100y.belarus
              and on Russian TV channels, the Belarusian society is already split into red-green and BKB.

              You split up long ago. Shaw, I can say looking at you, Lukashenka with his creeping Belarusization jumped, a generation of mankurt has grown up. I wanted to show a fig to Moscow every time and then it bangs!
            2. Alber alber
              Alber alber 24 August 2020 01: 26 New
              +5
              Hmmm, maybe even for belsat, freedom, show the owners your voice, or will you only poke where it is not scary, will they still forgive? Well, let's remember how logs and labuses called you in those days, well, and how they used it, too, do not forget
          2. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 24 August 2020 07: 03 New
            -5
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            Where is at least one Kremlin building in Minsk, can you show it?

            Turn on BT RB
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 23 August 2020 23: 06 New
          +3
          With Lukashenka, the numbers will not be rolled out like with Yanukovych, he, unlike the latter, is not sour - so get ready for more severe beatings and tortures, in this case from Lukashenka's side in relation to all maidanuts and various changes for the better, they are justified.
    2. Stalllker
      Stalllker 23 August 2020 19: 18 New
      -3
      Try to trample a thousand fighters with machine guns, or you think they will brush off the ghouls with shields and clubs.
      1. ancestors from Don
        ancestors from Don 23 August 2020 19: 25 New
        0
        Are you so sharp only at the monitor? First of all, there are no ghouls here, but there are jerks like you, if you want to send an army to the people, then you are a stupid person, you don’t guess that Belarus is a small territorially country, and any violence will come back to haunt there.
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  • Gato
    Gato 23 August 2020 21: 38 New
    0
    all hunters armed to the teeth take pictures around

    Scary - already horror. (FROM)
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 24 August 2020 11: 18 New
    0
    And next to it is a giant bear, which can crush all these hunters for the younger with its little finger, that's why they want to and pricks.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 23 August 2020 19: 54 New
    +2
    Quote: Livonetc
    Probably finding fault or just not in the subject.

    But this, anyone understands 23 August 18:30 President's residence Minsk

    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 23 August 2020 21: 57 New
      +3
      What is difficult for perception here? Quite clear . The man took up arms. Shows his willingness to fight. This is not a cowardly Yanukovych .. He hid and sobbed. Luka is good or bad, but you cannot call him a coward. He made it clear to the maydanutym that he was ready to resist.
      1. pro100y.belarus
        pro100y.belarus 23 August 2020 23: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: 30 vis
        What is difficult for perception here? Quite clear . The man took up arms. Shows his willingness to fight. This is not a cowardly Yanukovych .. He hid and sobbed. Luka is good or bad, but you cannot call him a coward. He made it clear to the maydanutym that he was ready to resist.

        Do you think it is normal for the president of the state to threaten the unarmed people with a machine gun from behind the punishers armed to the teeth?
        Do you think this is HEROISM?
        There is no longer even "heroism". Here is an elementary cowardice.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 24 August 2020 00: 15 New
          0
          If one side came unarmed for a firefight, then this is only its problem. repeat
        2. Alber alber
          Alber alber 24 August 2020 01: 36 New
          +1
          Why cowardice, are you as naive as a drunk girl on a 25th date with the same guy on his bed at home, or is there an understanding that if it weren't for us, the logs and the list of democracy friends, you would have bombed strategic targets long ago? , such as residential buildings, roads, schools, hospitals, etc. Yugoslavia does not make hiccups, the victims are innocent, and this despite the fact that Milosevic had already agreed to everything, including the transfer of power, but it was interesting for the West to bomb and bomb. Here they have a machine gun, like a completely clear design, don't you think?
  • halpat
    halpat 23 August 2020 20: 56 New
    +2
    I'm embarrassed to ask everything: what are the buzzing Belarusians missing?
    Can one of the locals explain to me?
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 22: 09 New
      +4
      Not local. There are relatives. Payments are small, pensions are small, social services are bad, and the main thing for a snack is no Freedom !!! It is no longer clear what kind of freedom we are talking about. If someone really lacks "freedom", it is the directors of industry, etc. who dream of turning the trick with privatization and cutting down a little dough and dumping ....
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 23 August 2020 23: 13 New
        +6
        Only now, the new potential authorities in the person of all Tikhonovskys and associates, who say something at the expense of what and who will improve living conditions, will definitely not take money out of thin air, especially with a national debt of 60 billion. But then it slips like a fleeting "Privatization" - how it ended in the 90s in Russia and after 2014 in Ukraine for the country as a whole and for the people - it's not worth telling.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 23: 57 New
          +6
          He explained to his sister how it would end, he doesn't believe. Lukashenka got sick, his fascists beat everyone. Why bored? And fig knows ...
      2. halpat
        halpat 24 August 2020 06: 52 New
        +5
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Not local. There are relatives. Payments are small, pensions are small, social services are bad, and the main thing for a snack is no Freedom !!! It is no longer clear what kind of freedom we are talking about. If someone really lacks "freedom", it is the directors of industry, etc. who dream of turning the trick with privatization and cutting down a little dough and dumping ....

        Even judging by the statistics from Wikipedia :) and this source can in no way be called independent of Western propagandists, Belarusians are now more than 2 times wealthier (richer) than their "liberated" neighbors out of 404.
        They did everything they could and under the same slogans:
        1. Prohibition of the Russian language
        2. Withdrawal from the EAEU
        3. Severing economic and political ties with Russia.
        4. Integration with the EU
        5. Accession to NATO
        A Lithuanian housewife and the coordinating council of noteworthy Russophobes got such a "program" last week.
        Then the "program" was rubbed. Shy like.
        But the training manual is the same and the actions are the same, Western curators do not bother with variety. Even the same inspirer came - Bernard Henri Levy, hugged the housewife, probably ate cutlets :)) and dumped.
        The most interesting thing is that at home, in France, this lover of freedom calls on the authorities to "crush and tear" yellow vests that advocate higher wages, social guarantees and demand the resignation of Macron and his handful of rotten corrupt servants of the oligarchy.
        Gy-gy.
        And it was not for nothing that Lukashenka showed the machine gun ... although he hardly knows how to use it, the cowardly Nazi bastard who got out and is now hiding behind a peaceful herd should always see that he will get it in the teeth without any regrets or sentiments.
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 24 August 2020 07: 08 New
      -5
      Quote: Halpat
      I'm embarrassed to ask everything: what are the buzzing Belarusians missing?
      Can one of the locals explain to me?

      Too many lies around ... monstrous lies ...
      Children and women cannot be beaten ...
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 08: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Skalendarka
        Children and


        And I know - they are children, the snout is taller than me, well-fed, at the age of 14-15
      2. halpat
        halpat 24 August 2020 09: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Skalendarka
        Quote: Halpat
        I'm embarrassed to ask everything: what are the buzzing Belarusians missing?
        Can one of the locals explain to me?

        Too many lies around ... monstrous lies ...
        Children and women cannot be beaten ...

        Yes Yes! they are children
        but you can burn people in the house of trade unions in Odessa,
        you can rip St.George ribbons from old people and children, a crowd of swastika taunts, you can arrange safaris in Donbass for money for those who want to shoot at people with impunity (they are not people, but quilted jackets), but this is only later, when you get dangers for it into a melon, so that without teeth or even without the melon itself, there is practically no one left.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 24 August 2020 10: 06 New
          +1
          Who burned or burned whom?
          Who turned over and crumbled cars with us?
          Open your eyes and strain the pumpkin, think a little.
          You are funny Russians ...
          1. halpat
            halpat 24 August 2020 13: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Skalendarka
            Who burned or burned whom?
            Who turned over and crumbled cars with us?
            Open your eyes and strain the pumpkin, think a little.
            You are funny Russians ...

            You are funny, Belarusians. "Religion" does not allow to strain the pumpkin and look at what was going on with the neighbors 5 years ago.
            There, too, at first no one was burned or fired, and the ribbons of St. George were not torn off. And in general they said that the Russian language ... where can we go without it ?, and economic ties with Russia ... yes, how can we go without them?
            It all showed up later, when the Nazis came to power. What kind of Nazis are they? Armenian Avakov, for example.
            I'll tell you a case from personal experience. One of my acquaintances from Kiev proved to me in December 2013 that they have a very positive attitude towards Russia, moreover, their company works with Russia and they actually receive their salaries from Moscow.
            I answered him: Don't tell this to anyone else. And when they start beating you for it, it will be too late to make excuses.
            He was offended and answered exactly as you did in your post ... about the fact that I need to turn on my head and that I know nothing and have no idea, and generally they have a bright path ahead ... just throw Yanukovych off ...
            Now we all know what happened next. Is not it?
    3. Shedko
      Shedko 24 August 2020 21: 22 New
      0
      Minskers are a separate conversation, there protest moods were always higher than in the country. But the regional centers are the result of the first days of the "hapun" when they simply took away those who were walking. At the very same two acquaintances they detained (they went out to look, but they were not beaten), and one married couple just managed to escape and from the balcony saw the detention of others - who did not manage to escape from the riot police. Anger at the riot police in the first place. Secondly, if they said for AG - 2%, and for Tikhanovskaya - 60-20 - they would believe, well, they would not put the squeeze on again once again. And again, if not for the beatings. Resigned. And so - who you don't ask - either against the AG or did not vote, but announced for 25% percent. Then there were meetings at large factories - again a video - A LOT of people, and the AG declares 80 against. In general, I got a lie, but Belarusian tolerance does not allow to spill over into a revolution. Believe me, most of those who were even for AG do not understand his actions. Yes, some believe in him ... but Minsk is no longer his. And this is the main site.
  • Gato
    Gato 23 August 2020 21: 16 New
    +7
    Probably finding fault or just not in the subject.
    But what is the "creation of a fire system" which the units are engaged in.

    This is when you give out cards to each soldier - you have to shoot there and there. It is better not to use the word "degrees" - they will not understand. It is better to hang up with a star and point with your finger.
    And if anyone sees the tracer, then shoot there. And who does not shoot - that homosexual. Something like this.
    1. Gato
      Gato 24 August 2020 00: 16 New
      +3
      And generally speaking. The officer should not command - he should wonder why his order has not yet been executed (C)
  • Oleg123219307
    Oleg123219307 23 August 2020 16: 48 New
    +8
    I don't quite understand what this circus is for. It’s clear that no one would dare to directly attack our so close ally. I do not think that the revolution in Belarus is so valuable for European and overseas partners that they risk their asses for it, and this is exactly what will happen if they decide today to arrange a Yugoslav scenario near our border. Yes, and there is no ground for this, neither nationalist, nor political, nor military. Stir up something dad ...
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 23 August 2020 16: 57 New
      12
      Quote: oleg123219307
      I do not think that the revolution in Belarus

      A revolution is understood as a change in the socio-economic formation, and in Belarus there is a Maidan (coup), in the interests of the European, Belarusian and other "business".
      1. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 23 August 2020 17: 54 New
        +6
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: oleg123219307
        I do not think that the revolution in Belarus

        A revolution is understood as a change in the socio-economic formation, and in Belarus there is a Maidan (coup), in the interests of the European, Belarusian and other "business".

        Why use Ukrainian terminology in the presence of Russian, and even incorrect. The word revolution denotes an abrupt change in the social and / or political system, including a violent one, without explicit indication of whose interests it is. There are socialist and bourgeois revolutions (the case that you are describing) and military coups, many things happen. My term is quite suitable. And the fact that our Ukrainian "partners" also like to arrange races on squares for this business is not a reason to call a word in their language that simply means square is a whole phenomenon. So we litter our language.
      2. ancestors from Don
        ancestors from Don 23 August 2020 18: 15 New
        -10
        When millions go out on the street this is not a coup, but a real revolution, keep flying in the blissful clouds.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 23 August 2020 18: 34 New
          14
          Quote: Ancestors from the Don
          When millions take to the streets, this is not a coup, but a real revolution,

          Remember how many people left the Union to ruin ... And most of them later regretted it
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 19: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Ancestors from the Don
          and a real revolution, keep flying in the blissful clouds.

          A revolution is a change in the socio-economic formation. Everything else is a coup and redistribution of the spheres of influence of the top. And I'm afraid many who today are jumping through the streets of Minsk will not like the result if they suddenly demolish the father.
        3. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 23 August 2020 21: 59 New
          +4
          Quote: Ancestors from the Don
          When millions go out on the street this is not a coup, but a real revolution, keep flying in the blissful clouds.

          A herd of sheep proudly follows the goat to the slaughter ... So these millions. For curators from the United States.
      3. Naive
        Naive 23 August 2020 21: 23 New
        -7
        And who did not allow your elders to hold this (Maidan) in the interests of the Russian Federation? Brains or lack of them? Or maybe they themselves work to the west? Quite recently (a couple of months ago), there were a lot of people in Belarus for Russia (including me)! But your dumb ones are making so much effort (last two weeks) to turn people west! That all the countries of the West together have not been able to do so much over the years !!! Why did you need to support the bow? WHAT FOR? History will not forgive them for this ...
        1. Motorist
          Motorist 23 August 2020 21: 59 New
          +4
          Quote: Naive
          But your ... have been making so much effort (last two weeks) to turn people west!

          They were deployed to the West before the elections. Once again, I link to Strana.ua with an article about Tikhanovskaya's "program":

          https://strana.ua/news/285045-prohramma-belorusskoj-oppozitsii-zapret-russkoho-jazyka-i-put-ot-rossii-v-nato.html
          1. pro100y.belarus
            pro100y.belarus 23 August 2020 23: 25 New
            -4
            Quote: Motorist
            Quote: Naive
            But your ... have been making so much effort (last two weeks) to turn people west!

            They were deployed to the West before the elections. Once again, I link to Strana.ua with an article about Tikhanovskaya's "program":

            https://strana.ua/news/285045-prohramma-belorusskoj-oppozitsii-zapret-russkoho-jazyka-i-put-ot-rossii-v-nato.html

            This is a FAKE thrown in by Russian propagandists to split society.
            It existed for just a few hours and was leaked after refutation.
            1. Motorist
              Motorist 23 August 2020 23: 35 New
              +5
              Thanks for reading the article. Or not?...
              Quote: pro100y.belarus
              This is FAKE, thrown in by Russian propagandists

              Strana.ua ???
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 00: 11 New
                +3
                Quote: Motorist
                Strana.ua ???


                Do you need to blurt out something in response? Is not it? And the plan is good, working. Everything is on the case there. The leak is for sure real.
            2. Alber alber
              Alber alber 24 August 2020 01: 46 New
              +4
              Eh, what's wrong with your heads, then, of course, a fake, you will then talk on the ruins of the Belaz. Well, little hope, tell me why there are no strikes at the joint ventures, but at the state-owned enterprises, the salary level is comparable. Well, about the fact that you no longer love the Russian Federation, as before, I think you are telling a lie, you personally did not treat Russia very well, but 75% of the Belarusian economy, which work exclusively for us, is very good about Russia. let's go to the west "the topic is well-known, the ruin went to GDP per capita three times less than in Belarus
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 22: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: Naive
          Why did you need to support the bow?

          What expression .. Bggg .. But I didn’t understand that the National Guard sent riots to crush or what?
        3. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 10: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Naive
          And who did not allow your elders to hold this (Maidan) in the interests of the Russian Federation? Brains or lack of them?


          Are you wondering or pretending to be out of your mind? Kind of like Luca is listed with our ally, however. And for normal people (but the Anglo-Saxon elite is even difficult to call it normal people) it should be zapadlo to arrange a Maidan ... Not by understanding ...
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 23 August 2020 17: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: oleg123219307
      Stir up something dad ...

      He does not stir up anything. He simply shows his western and northern "partners" how he treats them, if anything. That he wants to be friends with them, but up to a certain line, through which he will not allow them to step over. That he didn't like their attitude to protests at all. And, most importantly, their attempt to lead these protests.
    3. Kelwin
      Kelwin 23 August 2020 18: 11 New
      +1
      Maybe everything is simpler, the old trick "keep people busy." Well, a couple more tasks, such as assessing the loyalty of personnel, combat readiness. The first department will work, again ...
    4. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 22: 35 New
      0
      The Poles can feel our readiness in the framework of the uh, "borderline" incident. Not well, but that the Americans do not mind the Poles.
    5. g1v2
      g1v2 24 August 2020 00: 19 New
      +4
      Raises the stakes. Homeland in danger and all that. Again, it mobilizes the army for its defense and does not allow the enemy to propagandize it. Again, it clearly denotes the enemy for the layman. The enemy is designated - NATO, specifically Poland, Lithuania, the Czech Republic and its Ukrainian cannon fodder. In this case, any protests in fact are declared an enemy sabotage. This gives him the opportunity to introduce martial law and a curfew in case of aggravation. request
    6. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 24 August 2020 11: 25 New
      +1
      Well, Ossetia was attacked at our border.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 August 2020 16: 52 New
    +6
    Troops must be busy ... or study, or war. Training is preferable ... Here the Supreme and took his military ... in full ... tongue
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 23 August 2020 17: 09 New
      10
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Troops must be busy ... or study, or war. Training is preferable ... So the Supreme and took over his military ... in full

      Address of the Minister of Defense of the Republic of Belarus
      In its last war, Belarus lost every third and was practically wiped off the face of the earth !!
      Thousands of memorials and monuments have been created in our country as a sign of sorrow, sorrow and memory. For us, they have always been and remain sacred places! People always came to them to bow, pray, lay flowers on the fallen defenders of the Fatherland! We, the military, will not allow the desecration of these places, there can be no place for fascism on them!

      WE CANNOT LOOK QUIETLY AS UNDER THE FLAGS UNDER WHICH THE Fascists ORGANIZED THE MASS KILLS OF BELARUSIANS, RUSSIANS, JEWS, REPRESENTATIVES OF OTHER NATIONALITIES - TODAY'S ACTUAL ORGANIZATION. WE CANNOT ACCEPT IT!
      THEREFORE, FROM TODAY, WE TAKE THEM UNDER OUR PROTECTION AND PROTECTION.

      WE ARE STRICTLY WARNING: IN CASE OF DISORDER OF THE ORDER AND Tranquility IN THESE PLACES, YOU WILL HAVE A BUSINESS NOT WITH THE POLICE, BUT WITH THE ARMY.

      https://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/610986-obraschenie-ministra-oborony-respubliki-belarus-budete-imet-delo-s-armiey.html
      1. Naive
        Naive 23 August 2020 21: 25 New
        -6
        But the Vlasov and Bandera flags in the same places do not bother him ...
  • Do not care
    Do not care 23 August 2020 17: 01 New
    0
    Consolidated grouping say?
    Here is the summary grouping right now:


    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 23 August 2020 17: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Do not care
      Here she is the consolidated grouping right now

      So what? These joyful people will go to the barricades to die for their beliefs? Means, all this will end in zilch. The factories will be closed tomorrow, all these MTZ, MAZ, who else is there? And what will the workers and their families eat?
      1. Do not care
        Do not care 23 August 2020 17: 52 New
        -10
        You need to understand one very simple truth:
        For the Belarusian people, In just four days from August 9 to 13, 2020. Lukashenka and his apparatus from a legitimate government turned into a terrorist organization of a fascist persuasion that seized power in the country.
        There will be no more compromise with the fascists. Lukashenka will face the fate of his predecessor, Gauleiter Kube.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 23 August 2020 18: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Do not care
          You need to understand one very simple truth: For the Belarusian people,

          Do not confuse your "truth" with the generally accepted ...
          In just four days from August 9 to 13, 2020. Lukashenka and his apparatus from a legitimate government turned into a terrorist organization of a fascist persuasion that seized power in the country.

          From whom the AHL took power, if he was and remains the President of the Republic of Belarus before 9 and after 13.08.2020, the elections were recognized by the Russian Federation, and he does not care about the rest ...
          By the way, who recognized the "regime" of the AHL as terrorist and fascist, majors and liberoids, so they are not going to work under any government, at least for the benefit of the Republic of Belarus and its people ...?
          There will be no more compromise with the fascists. Lukashenka will face the fate of his predecessor, Gauleiter Kube.

          ... you seem to be another "student" of Vanga, well, well ... AHL will catch a cold at your funeral ...
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 24 August 2020 00: 26 New
          +7
          Marshal Sisi calmly shot his opponents and arrested the legitimate president. Then he died in prison. Does it somehow prevent us or the Americans from communicating with Egypt and its hands and concluding contracts for the sale of weapons? And here the elected President of Belarus suppresses the rebellion and riots. And I haven't even shot anyone yet. Tch snot with sugar on the topic - "bloody regime" can only amuse. And it’s not worth talking about the whole country. Luka's supporters are clearly no less than opponents, and the majority in general do not care. Tch if Luka shoots a little of his opponents, then we will certainly pretend that we did not see this. Many European countries will also confine themselves to concerns. At least in Uzbekistan, this has already happened.
        3. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 24 August 2020 11: 27 New
          0
          It must be understood that these horses are the same Belarusians for Belarus, as the Russian bulkheads are for Russia. laughing
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 23 August 2020 19: 01 New
        +8
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        The factories will be closed tomorrow, all these MTZ, MAZ, who else is there? And what will the workers and their families eat?

        RB will also save money by arranging a downtime at the request of workers and liberoids ...
        In the future, the new heads of enterprises in the Republic of Belarus will begin to lay off staff on a legal basis ... there are already dismissals due to the fault of workers in Belarus ... if workers do not share political and labor rights, then these are their problems ...
      3. Naive
        Naive 23 August 2020 21: 26 New
        -5
        The same as cops, officials and warriors
    2. pro100y.belarus
      pro100y.belarus 23 August 2020 23: 28 New
      -3
      Quote: Do not care
      Consolidated grouping say?
      Here is the summary grouping right now:



      YES. And these are all Poles and Lithuanians. Come in large numbers here, you know ...
  • German Titov
    German Titov 23 August 2020 17: 02 New
    +6
    Really the old "Belarusian Military District". Significant. I really served in TurkVO, somewhere km away. 250 from the southern border. It was normal for the officers to be transferred to the BSSR.
  • Avior
    Avior 23 August 2020 17: 07 New
    +5
    Something dad rushes about with the protection of the eastern, then the western border, and neither one nor that, no one attacks and is not going to.
    The present
    Lukashenka's problems are not at all at the border ...
    1. Stalllker
      Stalllker 23 August 2020 17: 15 New
      0
      When did he rush about the eastern border?
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 August 2020 17: 30 New
        +4
        You quickly forgot. To understand and to forgive?
        Before the elections.
        Belarus has pulled troops to the border with Russia

        https://news.rambler.ru/world/44611145-belorussiya-styanula-voyska-k-granitse-s-rossiey/
        1. Stalllker
          Stalllker 23 August 2020 19: 11 New
          0
          This is just the title of the article and nothing more
          1. Avior
            Avior 23 August 2020 22: 59 New
            +2
            Reflecting her essence, for a minute
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              1. Avior
                Avior 24 August 2020 07: 59 New
                +2
                Ordinary essence. Especially visual in connection with his other actions at the same time
                1. Stalllker
                  Stalllker 24 August 2020 08: 08 New
                  0
                  Blah blah blah, what does his actions and three matalygs have to do with it?
                2. Stalllker
                  Stalllker 24 August 2020 08: 12 New
                  +2
                  Similarly, in the area of ​​the military unit, photograph three military trucks, and put in some pissing newspaper an article "Putin put the troops on alert in case of protests against him" and blah blah blah, and here the journalists did
      2. Alber alber
        Alber alber 24 August 2020 01: 52 New
        0
        It was, unfortunately, the demon beguiled or with a drink
  • Gato
    Gato 23 August 2020 17: 23 New
    -3
    The empire either goes to Nazism or to socialism (whoever is smart can voice the third option): what's wrong, gentlemen request
    1. We are for our
      We are for our 23 August 2020 17: 36 New
      +6
      An empire, by definition, is a multinational and multiconfessional entity; there can be no Nazism or socialism in it.
      1. Gato
        Gato 23 August 2020 17: 41 New
        -1
        there can be no Nazism or socialism in it

        You are a person to some extent honest - what kind of education can there be?
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 23 August 2020 19: 23 New
          0
          Capitalism.
          1. Gato
            Gato 23 August 2020 19: 27 New
            -4
            Capitalism.

            There is no need to be ashamed - fascism, as the last stage in the development of capitalism. Again, what's wrong?
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 23 August 2020 20: 43 New
              +1
              Study the terminology first, otherwise when you ever get into a very unpleasant story.
              1. Gato
                Gato 23 August 2020 21: 07 New
                0
                Study the terminology first, otherwise when you ever get into a very unpleasant story

                Dear leader! I recommend that you study the rules of the White Man's language. Otherwise, you will definitely find yourself in a very unpleasant story - they will laugh at you. This is not an insult. With all due respect, etc. etc.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 23 August 2020 23: 07 New
                  +3
                  Without touching on the main topic, I want to draw your attention to the fact that the leader of the red-skinned people is not quite a leader and not quite a red-skinned one.
                  More precisely, completely ignorant and not red-skinned

                  smile
                  1. Gato
                    Gato 23 August 2020 23: 13 New
                    +2
                    Our person! laughing Judging by the knife
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 23 August 2020 17: 23 New
    -3
    this cluster of warriors is as mighty as
    This professional group of troops "beat for sure" and in the course of joint Russian-Belarusian exercises defeated the conditional German-Polish grouping of troops. By enveloping and locking into cauldrons. This information will be distributed methodically to each combat commander, regiment level inclusive. will impose a direct battle on us. Closer than a machine gun fire. Therefore, units and formations must prepare for a competitive war. The Stalingrad experience was oar absorbed in parts, but sweat was cheerfully forgotten. In the worst case. And in the worst case we have it as always ... Infantry, and most importantly a mechanized ramming of infantry troops. He learns to fight in the field. but you are still Russians. Homeland has put you here and therefore you will try to do THIS, and not otherwise, to stand at the turn to the last opportunity, in case of withdrawal try If we know that teams and a pair of T-34s have entered the battle at your headquarters, then we will be able to more accurately determine the configuration of the front. And by the command we will send 34
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 23 August 2020 17: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      This professional group of troops "beat for sure" and in the course of joint Russian-Belarusian exercises defeated the conditional German-Polish grouping of troops. By enveloping and locking in cauldrons. This information will be distributed methodically to each combat commander, regiment level inclusive.

      I understand all these dashing propaganda measures, but I think that in reality Lukashenka only once again became convinced that while he is in a military alliance with Russia, he can not conduct any exercises at all, but just need not to contradict Putin, and then our strategic nuclear forces will provide him with such protection, which excludes any violation of the border of Belarus. I think that this collective farm chairman finally made the mistake of annoying Putin for too long, and as soon as the opposition caught his tail, he immediately fell down in front of our president and sang a new song. He received a good bashing from his own Belarusians, so he became "suddenly" a zealous propagandist of the union state - that's how life teaches fools ...
      1. Wwk7260
        Wwk7260 23 August 2020 18: 05 New
        +3
        If I had done it, I would have dismissed Makei. Another signal of insight can be the recognition of the sovereignty of the Russian Federation in Crimea and Sevastopol, the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 19: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: Wwk7260
          If I had done it, I would have dismissed Makei.


          What's the point? McKay is the second muzzle of our two-faced Anus, oh sorry Yanus-Lukashenko always turned to the west with his tongue sticking out .. How can he dismiss half of himself? What But Father needed, Makei said, not forgetting to lick everyone in a row, starting with Merkel and ending with Pomeo and others ...
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 23 August 2020 18: 36 New
        +5
        Quote: ccsr
        and then our strategic nuclear forces will provide him with such protection, which excludes any violation of the border of Belarus.

        And will the SNF of the Russian Federation be saved from undermining the girder bridge and power lines on the territory of the Republic of Belarus?
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 23 August 2020 19: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: Lara Croft
          And will the SNF of the Russian Federation be saved from undermining the girder bridge and power lines on the territory of the Republic of Belarus?

          But for this they have the KGB - let it fight this, and not engage in provocations against the citizens of the USSR.
          By the way, those who will send demolitions to Belarus are not afraid themselves that they will launch some poisonous substances into the water supply network or spray plague spores from drones? Or did you not envisage such an option, frightening the Belarusians by undermining power lines?
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 23 August 2020 19: 21 New
            +5
            Quote: ccsr
            Will they launch poisonous substances into the water supply network or will they spray plague spores from drones? Or did you not envisage such an option, frightening the Belarusians by undermining power lines?

            I am not scaring, I just warn that the Empireists are not asleep ...
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 23 August 2020 19: 24 New
              -1
              Quote: Lara Croft
              I am not afraid, I just warn that the Empireists are not asleep ...

              If a country has a nuclear potential capable of destroying the United States and China at the same time, then there is no need to scare it, because there is no such scarecrow that it scares. The main thing is that our Strategic Missile Forces are not asleep - this is the guarantee of our security and stable peace for us and those who are our ally.
              1. Wwk7260
                Wwk7260 23 August 2020 19: 55 New
                -5
                Illusions about "the whole world in dust" were very well debunked in an old article on the VO on the use of nuclear weapons, but even if he knows it, it may be good that the majority of the world's population considers nuclear weapons to be an order of magnitude more dangerous than they are, the consequences will not be buzzing , let civilization not perish.
                1. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... 23 August 2020 20: 55 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Wwk7260
                  were very well debunked in an old article on VO on the use of nuclear weapons,


                  No question, civilization will even survive, it will only drop in level at the end of the 19th century, all complex technological chains will immediately crumble. Well, you have to understand the last goal of the city will be. But if serious ports and power plants in the same states are closed, what will happen next in your opinion?
                  That is, in the case of TMV, the USA is guaranteed to lose its status even if it wins, which is ridiculous in itself, For at the moment their missile defense is more important in terms of repelling MRNA, in principle, it is useless ...
                  1. Alber alber
                    Alber alber 24 August 2020 02: 06 New
                    +3
                    Well, I don’t know, the explosion of the Hoover Dam will wash away everything downstream of Colorado, up to Mexico, and thousands of hectares of the best fertile land in the west, plus electricity supply 10% of the country's total energy balance, and several such hovers, ports, etc. But the Yankees keep the main production facilities in coastal zones.
                    1. Cyril G ...
                      Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 10: 32 New
                      0
                      Quote: Alber Alber
                      the explosion of the Hoover Dam will wash away everything downstream of Colorado, right up to Mexico, and thousands of hectares of the best fertile land in the west, plus electricity supply 10% of the total energy balance of the country,


                      That's what we're talking about - the PRC also has its own window
                      there is vulnerability - a cascade of dams on great rivers, and a huge number of the population living in the valleys of these rivers. So no one will genocide the population with a specialist. So, if only you are not lucky to live next to Energo / industrial / military facility ...
                2. ccsr
                  ccsr 24 August 2020 11: 51 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Wwk7260
                  The illusion of "the whole world in dust" was very well debunked in an old article on the VO about the use of nuclear weapons,

                  Who is author?
                  Quote: Wwk7260
                  but even if he knows it, maybe it's good that the majority of the world's population considers nuclear weapons to be an order of magnitude more dangerous than they are,

                  I think that the majority underestimates all the consequences of a nuclear war. The explosion in Beirut showed that even conventional explosives can paralyze the entire city for a long time, and it's better not to talk about nuclear ones at all.
        2. Alber alber
          Alber alber 24 August 2020 01: 58 New
          +2
          But for such a fight, Bortnikov flew there, with a team of analysts in the profile on an oh-oh-oh-very expensive airplane rar
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 23 August 2020 18: 32 New
    +6
    At the same time, a combined military grouping is being created, which includes tank, airborne, motorized rifle and artillery subunits. The electronic warfare subunits that are part of it occupy temporary positions where they will be engaged in reconnaissance, suppression of satellite radio navigation receiving terminals and comprehensive technical control in the areas of operation of the troops.

    Most of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus and in "peacetime" are concentrated in the Western direction (along the Grodno-Brest line), now the Western Command has been reinforced with another 103rd Airborne Brigade. from Vitebsk, possibly by units of the 5th br. Special Forces from Maryina Gorki MTR AF RB ....
    The soldiers of the 120th separate mechanized brigade are connected to the border guard, using reinforcement means.

    This brigade belongs to the North-West Command of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, it turns out that Old Man is waiting for an attack from Lithuania ...
    Information about the 19th BHVT SV RB (formerly 19th TD) disappeared from the VIKI ...
    And the Russian Federation has almost no forces in the North-West, if it is necessary to strike in descending directions through the Baltic states to the city of Lida (RB) and the city of Kaliningrad (RF), it is not clear what forces and means we will do this, 6th OA ZVO, one of the weakest in the RF Army?
    It is necessary for the Armed Forces of the Republic of Bashkortostan and the Russian Federation to conduct exercises of engineering troops and rear troops on the territory of the eastern regions of the Republic of Belarus .... as well as exercises on the transfer of the RF Air Force to the airfields of the Republic of Belarus ....
  • Garist Pavel
    Garist Pavel 23 August 2020 18: 57 New
    0
    It's time to end these protesters. In general, the people are crazy. The Poles brought lard with a layer, this is a very dangerous precedent. The army has nothing to do with it. There will be enough strength to disperse the "pro-Polish protests" without an army
    1. pro100y.belarus
      pro100y.belarus 23 August 2020 23: 34 New
      -3
      Quote: Garist Paul
      It's time to end these protesters. In general, the people are crazy. The Poles brought lard with a layer, this is a very dangerous precedent. The army has nothing to do with it. There will be enough strength to disperse the "pro-Polish protests" without an army

      Come finish.
      Only Donbass do not forget to "finish".
      Maybe the ending is over?
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 23 August 2020 19: 07 New
    -2
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: Stalllker
    The crowd and riot police will be enough for that

    Enough is not enough - time will tell. But here's what touches me personally - all the protests under the one-day (no history) flag of the local separatists of 1918. Polish flashes. What's this?
    For example, in Khabarovsk, people are increasingly coming out with red flags (less often with imperial ones), but in Belarus there is a bad (and heated) flag nationalism. There is such a science, political technology. The creation of symbolism is one of the most important aspects. Confucius is credited with the phrase - "Signs and symbols rule the world, not word and law." It doesn't matter if he said it, but it is. Now they will designate a symbol of protest, then it will become a family. The principle is similar to "Overton windows". We are being divided (and we are one people), and with the tacit consent of "our" authorities. Now we can only be united Red flag, this I, as a monarchist, say and affirm. Not too late. hi
    P, S. There will be no red, the national flags of the so-called minorities will bloom. For example, look at the chronicles of the protests in Kushtau - only national flags, not a single red one. Where this will lead - Chechnya of the 90s as an example.

    The white-red-white flag in the Republic of Belarus was from 1991 to 1995 the STATE flag of Belarus - this is soooo, for reference hi
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 23 August 2020 23: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Crown without virus
      The white-red-white flag in the Republic of Belarus was from 1991 to 1995 the STATE flag of Belarus - this is soooo, for reference hi

      Did you get a certificate from the Security Council?
      Here are smart people who write ...
      The author of the white-red-white flag was Claudius Duzh-Dushevsky, to which in the days of the February Revolution the Belarusian organizations of Petrograd, who dreamed of creating a flag of the Belarusian national movement, turned.
      It is not known exactly when the flag appeared, but it was created by a young politician, architect, diplomat, having studied Belarusian ornaments and colors of folk costumes. He began to work on the flag after compatriots complained that the Belarusians have the coat of arms "Pahonya", but they do not have their own flag.
      The first documentary mention of the appearance of the white-red-white flag was in the spring of 1917. The flag was erected in St. Petersburg, on the building of the Belarusian Society for Aid to War Victims. Duzh-Dushevsky worked there in 1916-1918.
      The choice of colors was explained as follows: white symbolized the name of the country and the freedom of Belarus from the Mongol-Tatar yoke, when the rest of Russia was conquered. Red is the national revolution and the rising sun, a symbol of national revival and liberation.

      https://www.gazeta.ru/science/2020/08/13_a_13192969.shtml
      However, if there are historians on the VO website among the members of the forum, they will easily dispute your "reference" and the arguments set out in my link ...

      The flag of the BSSR known to us, which became the basis of the modern flag of Belarus, was approved in 1951 - it consisted of a red and white stripe, as well as a sickle, a hammer and a star and a national ornament embroidered by a peasant from the village of Kostelische in Mogilev province back in 1917, named by her “ Rising Sun".

      ibid.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 23 August 2020 19: 09 New
    -1
    Quote: Garist Paul
    It's time to end these protesters. In general, the people are crazy. The Poles brought lard with a layer, this is a very dangerous precedent. The army has nothing to do with it. There will be enough strength to disperse the "pro-Polish protests" without an army

    If “the people are crazy,” maybe Lukashenka is still to blame? bully
    And yes ... even the army is not enough to disperse the people good
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 23 August 2020 23: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: Crown without virus
      And yes ... even the army is not enough to disperse the people good

      The Chinese comrades of the 1989 model would not agree with you ...
      But do not worry about the people of Belarus, after all, in the CIS, the police / militia rarely used gases, water cannons, rubber bullets, unlike your "lights" from the EU and the FSA ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 23 August 2020 19: 16 New
    -3
    In order not to respond to every third or fourth post of the zaputins, I will write separately laughing

    You will be very surprised, but the white-red-white flag was the STATE flag in Belarus from 1991 to 1995, until Lukashenka changed it, when he came to power bully
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 23 August 2020 23: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Crown without virus
      In order not to respond to every third or fourth post of the zaputins, I will write separately laughing

      You will be very surprised, but the white-red-white flag was the STATE flag in Belarus from 1991 to 1995, until Lukashenka changed it, when he came to power bully

      You will be very surprised, but:
      The old flag was returned by a law passed by the country's Supreme Council on September 19, 1991. In 1995, on the initiative of President Alexander Lukashenko, a referendum was held, at which, among other things, they decided the issue of establishing a new flag and coat of arms. 75,1% of those who took part in the referendum voted for the adoption of the new symbols.

      https://www.gazeta.ru/science/2020/08/13_a_13192969.shtml
      You can, of course, find other sources in which there may be other data on percentages, but the modern flag and coat of arms of the Republic of Belarus were approved by the PEOPLE of the Republic of Belarus, in a referendum (one of the two highest ways of the popular expression of the highest legal force) ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 23 August 2020 19: 21 New
    +4
    Kamaz also has a holiday soon _) .. then dairymen), etc. Rostselmash is next in line laughing laughing
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 23 August 2020 19: 52 New
    -2
    The latest news
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 23 August 2020 20: 22 New
      -4
      Why does he need a machine gun? He didn't even insert the store)))
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 23 August 2020 20: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Ancestors from the Don
        Why does he need a machine gun? He didn't even insert the store)))

        According to the Charter it is not allowed (the store is not fastened in the location)
      2. Naive
        Naive 23 August 2020 21: 36 New
        -2
        Protection from sin away does not give the Fuhrer cartridges ... And they gave the 15-year-old knee ...
    2. Deniska999
      Deniska999 23 August 2020 20: 28 New
      +1
      Going to announce the presidency for life and the organization of a grand junta?

      (Allende also defended his power with a gun ...)
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 23 August 2020 20: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Deniska999
        Going to announce the presidency for life and the organization of a grand junta?

        (Allende also defended his power with a gun ...)

        In vain, we are peaceful people
    3. jeka424
      jeka424 23 August 2020 20: 36 New
      0
      What is it for? going to fight?
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 23 August 2020 20: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: jeka424
        What is it for? going to fight?

        Sorry for my French, but we (Belarusians) have a saying
        - even if we shit, but I won't give up ...
    4. forest1
      forest1 23 August 2020 21: 50 New
      +1
      Interestingly, the coloring of his helicopter. White-red-white. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
    5. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 24 August 2020 00: 36 New
      +3
      Fun there))
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  • Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 23 August 2020 20: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: oleg123219307
    I don't quite understand what this circus is for. It’s clear that no one would dare to directly attack our so close ally. I do not think that the revolution in Belarus is so valuable for European and overseas partners that they risk their asses for it, and this is exactly what will happen if they decide today to arrange a Yugoslav scenario near our border. Yes, and there is no ground for this, neither nationalist, nor political, nor military. Stir up something dad ...


    Of course there will be no attack, the EU is in its mind, for several reasons.
    Equipment of positions, etc., is to leave the troops at the borders as little as possible, and the rest to the cities for the curfew. There will be a curfew if the situation starts to escalate.
  • Charik
    Charik 23 August 2020 21: 14 New
    -1
    The positions should be ready for a long time and every ravine bush should be shot
  • Gato
    Gato 23 August 2020 21: 48 New
    -2
    I, unlike many and many who have not seen nichrome with their own eyes, but sat on sofas in Omsk, Maskva and St. Petersburg under the wing of the VVP, categorically affirm that what is happening in Minsk is an exact copy of the Kiev events. As much as cheekbones reduces from similarity, only the speed of events is amazing. Our broadcasts were slower.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 24 August 2020 00: 15 New
      +1
      The PLan was initially on the fact that the police will get cold feet and scatter. There were also rams on cars and attempts to seize the ROVD, etc. etc.
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 23 August 2020 21: 54 New
    +9
    Yes ... interesting videos.
    The President runs around his residence with a machine gun
    which is guarded around the perimeter by security guards in black in three rows.
    Impressive ...
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 23 August 2020 22: 11 New
      +1
      Yes, only a president who is confident in his righteousness and in the support of 80% of his citizens (beloved, elected and supported by the people!) Can walk around the country with a gun and in a bulletproof vest.
      1. Romka
        Romka 23 August 2020 23: 08 New
        -1
        But they did not believe me that someone needed to see a doctor.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 24 August 2020 00: 00 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The President runs around his residence with a machine gun
      which is guarded around the perimeter by security guards in black in three rows.

      Firstly, it does not run ...
      Secondly, for some reason, Israeli Jews were not bothered, as Sashko Bilyi in Ukraine in 2014 went to prosecutors and city councils with AK and beat everyone in the face ...
      1. Moss
        Moss 24 August 2020 00: 46 New
        -3
        Luka is copying Sasha Bely? Yes ... I grew up ... but I was president ...
    3. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 24 August 2020 00: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Yes ... interesting videos.


      This is the best thing that happened today:
      https://t.me/grey_zone/4362
    4. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 24 August 2020 06: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Yes ... interesting videos.

      The President runs around his residence with a machine gun
      which is guarded around the perimeter by security guards in black in three rows.
      Impressive ...

      And my son with a gun ... There were parades for Kolya, and now they are going to play war ...
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 24 August 2020 00: 03 New
    +1
    By the way, about the "people" and the "majority" ... The people and the majority, in general, are gray mediocrity. Masses are Asses, as the English say. Moreover, one of the Greats said that democracy is the tyranny of uneducated mediocrity. And another of the Great Ones said the following about "the people and democracy and the majority" "Even a million flies won't make me think that shit is tasty and nutritious." And finally Churchill "The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with an average voter." So when they tell me "The people want" or "The will of the people" I look for puppeteers who run a dull herd. And the best remedy against the Maidan is MG42 and others like him and the will to use them. Learn from the wise Chinese. They tried to "peaceful students and clear-eyed intellectuals" to make a Maidan. In Tianamen Square. China has found the absolutely right antidote to liberal cancer.
    1. Moss
      Moss 24 August 2020 00: 43 New
      0
      Well you m..dak. You ought to break the ribs in Belarusian dungeons, beat off the genitals, and after that you would be happy to talk about Churchill's statements ...
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 24 August 2020 17: 57 New
        -1
        Would you like to be shocked by the police? Don't break the law. Do not take money from non-profit organizations, do not incite against the state, do not go to unauthorized rallies, do not be a member of banned organizations, see who you are hanging around with, and you will be happy. I very much doubt that if you worked, came home, took yourself seagulls with cutlets and read Nekrasov, Turgenev or Norman Mailer there, an evil cop would come to your hut and "he would break the ribs in the dungeons and tear off the organs," layers are done. There is a wonderful video, made by humorist Chris Rock "How not to get rid of the police" I recommend to all "fighters against everything bad and for everything good." But seriously, having seen what the liberal scum did first in the USSR, then on the territory of the former USSR, what it turned Europe into, and what it does with the United States, I would hang these nits. For me, even Mussolini, General Franco is better than a liberal cancer.
  • Kaw
    Kaw 24 August 2020 00: 22 New
    0
    If initially the protest movement in Belarus could be called spontaneous, now the interested parties are really trying to take control of it. These are the Baltics, Poland, Ukraine, the European Union, and the States. Except for Russia, which has taken a purely pro-Lukashen position. So why are they surprised that Russian flags are not visible, but Polish ones appeared? African ones will appear soon.


    It looks like we again bet on the deadliest horse, as in Ukraine?
    1. Moss
      Moss 24 August 2020 01: 11 New
      +2
      I am Russian. I have been living in Belarus for 20 years. I look at events from the inside. More Russophile state can not be found. Surely Russia has not learned anything since the Maidan? Nothing ...
      1. Moss
        Moss 24 August 2020 01: 13 New
        +2
        Sorry, incomplete text, the Internet was cut down ...
      2. Shedko
        Shedko 24 August 2020 21: 31 New
        0
        You are clearly not in the Mogilev or Vitebsk regions. This is how the country works. Westerners see a different standard of living and they like it. And the Eastern ones are closer to the Russians, and this is what scares you that there is a split. But hope dies last, that I can raise children in peacetime.
  • Mik1701
    Mik1701 24 August 2020 00: 24 New
    +2
    Once again, the same mistake ... Of course, it is difficult to find a worthy primier. Even GDP did not succeed the first time. But it worked out! Because you need it. And now we see a situation with an unpredictable result. There is no worthy receiver trained and tuned in to consolidate with the Russian Federation. And if the system collapses, Ukraine will be number two. What I do not want Belarus.
    1. Mik1701
      Mik1701 24 August 2020 00: 25 New
      +1
      Belarus. I'm sorry.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 August 2020 16: 57 New
      0
      Unfortunately, not all hedgehogs understand this.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 24 August 2020 20: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Mik1701
      Of course it is difficult to find a worthy primier. Even GDP did not succeed the first time. But it worked out!

      Who did he find? Lechtura HSE?
  • Moss
    Moss 24 August 2020 00: 33 New
    +1
    What happened? What kind of "kipesh"? For what purpose? Poland attacked us? Or a banal transfer of arrows to an external enemy? It's funny .... but Russia will support! LUKA IS THE SAME BEST FRIEND! How quickly you forget the arrest of 33 mercenaries, the beating up of Russian journalists, I’m silent about Luka’s statements about Russia ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 August 2020 03: 23 New
    +1
    At rallies, the people are rotten, there is no benefit to the state, so they do not feel sorry for them.

    Napoleon in Oct. 1795 directly in Paris from cannons shot protestors, over 5 thousand corpses. And after 4 years he began to rule France.
    1. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 24 August 2020 18: 02 New
      0
      That's what I'm talking about. A cancer called liberalism is treated with machine guns, gallows and hard labor. And not only to that stupid cattle who took to the streets and infinitely violates the laws and interferes with the life of honest workers, but those who took this stupid herd into the streets, under the zvizdyuli and bullets.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 August 2020 03: 35 New
    +1
    https://youtu.be/t9keJ8b6GX8?t=3 laughing laughing
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