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The contract for the supply of the second set of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey has been signed

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The contract for the supply of the second set of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey has been signed

Russia and Turkey signed a contract for the supply of the second set of the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system. This was stated by the head of Rosoboronexport, Alexander Mikheev, within the framework of the Army-2020 military-technical forum.


Answering the relevant question, Mikheev explained that the contract for the supply of the second set of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey has already been signed, and the financial terms of the contract are currently being discussed. The timing of deliveries of the anti-aircraft system to Turkey will depend on the receipt of funds from Ankara.

The contract for the supply of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey has been signed. (Terms of implementation of the contract) already upon the readiness of our partners to finally resolve the procedural issues with the financing of this project

- explained the head of Rosoboronexport.

Recall that Turkey signed a contract for the supply of the first set of S-400 air defense systems in 2017. The delivery of the Russian system to Turkey began in August 2019.

Ankara's purchase of the S-400 led to discontent in the United States. Washington applied some kind of sanctions to Turkey, removing it from the implementation of the joint program to create the F-35. At that time, Turkish pilots in the United States were already undergoing training in piloting 5th generation fighters. As a result, the fighters intended for the Turkish Air Force were never transferred to Ankara.

In turn, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called the S-400 the most powerful air defense system in the world and said that Turkey is not going to abandon the Russian anti-aircraft system.
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  1. cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 23 August 2020 14: 01 New
    +1
    Will the Greeks buy the S-400, or will they, with their outdated S-300, fight for Cyprus with the Asmans?
    1. iConst
      iConst 23 August 2020 14: 07 New
      10
      Quote: cokol-161
      and the Greeks will buy the S-400 or so they will with their outdated S-300

      Not the fact that they will be sold, even if they ask. Big politics.
      Greece is still of little use to Russia.
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 23 August 2020 14: 45 New
        10
        The Greeks only harm Russia. And also .... Orthodox.
        1. bayard
          bayard 23 August 2020 15: 20 New
          -2
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          And also .... Orthodox.

          They are not Orthodox, for some reason they are called that in Russia.
          The Greeks belong to the ORTHODOX branch of Christianity - one of the varieties of the "ancient" Jewish cult.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 23 August 2020 16: 30 New
            +6
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            The Greeks only harm Russia. And also .... Orthodox.

            Russia will sell export weapons to everyone on whom it has not signed restrictive sanctions.
            The Greeks do not harm Russia ... But they are not useful either.
            And the Greeks will not buy the S-400 themselves. Gut is thin America tease.
            1. Charik
              Charik 24 August 2020 21: 00 New
              +2
              Rather, the wallet will not allow
          2. juneart
            juneart 23 August 2020 18: 12 New
            +7
            Quote: bayard
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            And also .... Orthodox.

            They are not Orthodox, for some reason they are called that in Russia.
            The Greeks belong to the ORTHODOX branch of Christianity - one of the varieties of the "ancient" Jewish cult.



            So in English ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN - Orthodox Christian
            As well as simply ORTHODOX - Orthodox
            1. bayard
              bayard 23 August 2020 22: 38 New
              -3
              Quote: juneart
              So in English ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN - Orthodox Christian
              As well as simply ORTHODOX - Orthodox

              This is not a direct translation.
              And very tense - conceptual (the English language is generally very poor).
              Orthodox means something somewhat DIFFERENT.
              Something like - literally (blindly) following tradition / canons.
              In the Russian language, the word "Orthodox" is a two-part word and does not need translation.
              But THIS is not at all, AT ALL, what is "orthodox" for the Greeks.
          3. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 24 August 2020 08: 57 New
            +4
            In the West, the Orthodox Church is called the Orthodox Church. Literally translated from German, for example, the Russian Orthodox Church is called the Russian Orthodox Church. The ROC and the Greek Orthodox Church belong to the same branch of Christianity.
            1. bayard
              bayard 24 August 2020 10: 59 New
              -3
              Quote: Sergej1972
              The Greek Orthodox Churches belong to one branch of Christianity.

              Now it is legally so.
              And before Nikon's reform?
              Earlier?
              Orthodoxy was, but Christianity did not smell.
              "And the host of Christ and the Orthodox army met in that section" - from the Russian chronicle about the Battle of the Ice.
              So no Greeks are our brothers.
              Not by faith historically (fables do not count).
              Not even more so - by blood, because they belong to the same ethnic group as other immigrants from North Africa and Western Asia:
              - Armenians,
              - Georgians,
              - Berbers,
              - Arabs,
              - Jews,
              - Italians (southern),
              - Spaniards,
              etc.
              But the Turks are not, they are from Central Asia.

              The roots of the concept - Orthodoxy, bears its roots from Vedism (northern and western Slavs - Venda) and Mazdo-Yasnism (Scythian-Sarmatian branch of the Russian people, the same Cossacks).
              Venda - VANES.
              Mazdo-Yasnians (Scythian-Sarmatians) - ASY.
              These two branches of the Russian people reunited during the period of the Alano-Gothic wars, when to the aid of the VANAM who were exhausted in the war (the liberation war was started by the Jarl (prince) Bus), the ASY came to the rescue (Prince Slaven came at the head of the allied army). The war ended deep in Europe with the complete surrender of the Goths - on the border with Spain ...
              Since then, the SLAVS have appeared in Europe - the Ases and Vans began to be called so in honor of their great leader. And the former common name for them was - Rus, Rusichi, Rasens, and the whole community of kindred clans Raseya (Rusia was the name in the south and east).
              The Ases who came to the aid of the Vanam were called Yasuns - YASUNI (the name according to their faith - FAITH IN CLEAR UNCLEAR MIND, imprisoned / brought by the GOOD NEWS - Arya Vesta - Avesta).
              The Vans adhered to a more ancient tradition - Vedam - pre-Avestan teaching.
              This combination of ancient paternal traditions was called Orthodoxy ... and Orthodoxy (further in the southeast).
              And there was no trace of Christianity or Islam. These are all later notions.
              Therefore - do not mold us Greeks into brothers.
        2. snake
          snake 23 August 2020 20: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          The Greeks only harm Russia. And also .... Orthodox.

          Whether it is the Turks. Great friends and "allies".
          Erdogan outsmarted Gazprom: Turkish Stream suffered the fate of Nord Stream-2
          https://svpressa.ru/economy/article/256463/
    2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 23 August 2020 14: 13 New
      +1
      Do the Greeks have money to buy such complexes?
      1. loki565
        loki565 23 August 2020 14: 15 New
        11
        Yeah, like the Serbs, they wanted the C400, but the money was only enough for the shell)))
    3. Orange
      Orange bigg 23 August 2020 14: 21 New
      +2
      It doesn't matter what the Greeks have, it is important that we have a more powerful new generation S-500 air defense system to replace the S-400.

      was ordered the theme "Triumphant-M", within which the development of the S-500 began. Moreover, this is not an upgrade of the S-400 at all. The new system has practically nothing in common with this complex. The S-400 complex has its own niche. And for the S-500, the cooperation of enterprises is different, and the characteristics were different. The height of the targets hit - much higher than 100 kilometers - is already near space, and their speed is approaching the first space speed: more than six kilometers per second!


      the S-500 has three types of missiles, each for a different target type. These are medium, long and ultra-long-range missiles. They provide the destruction of small targets flying at supersonic speeds, including all existing types of intercontinental ballistic missiles and warheads.

      Missiles "Prometheus" are capable of working on aerodynamic targets - for example, aircraft, including AWACS air command posts, protected by electronic warfare. At the same time, S-500 missiles are capable of destroying inconspicuous nuclear warheads that have already separated from the main stage of the carrier rocket and have turned on the homing mode.

      https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/08/20/v-rossii-sozdali-unikalnuyu-zenitnuyu-raketnuyu-sistemu-novogo-pokoleniya.html
      1. venik
        venik 23 August 2020 15: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        It doesn't matter what the Greeks have, it is important that we have a more powerful new generation S-500 air defense system to replace the S-400.

        =======
        And also -S-350 "Vityaz" to replace the S-300 PS !!!
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 16: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        above 100 kilometers is already near space
        Stars are shining. This is just a reference, not defined. WIKI:
        The International Aeronautical Federation set an altitude of 100 km (Karman's line) as a working boundary between the atmosphere and space, because at this altitude, in order to create lift, it is necessary for the aircraft to move at the first space speed, which makes the meaning of air flight lost.

        Astronomers from the United States and Canada measured the boundary between atmospheric winds and the onset of cosmic particles. She was at an altitude of 118 kilometers, although NASA itself considers the boundary of space to be 122 kilometers. At this altitude, the shuttles switched from conventional maneuvering using only rocket engines to aerodynamic maneuvering with "support" on the atmosphere [3] [4]
    4. Deniska999
      Deniska999 23 August 2020 14: 31 New
      0
      Something must cover new gas fields in Turkey)
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 23 August 2020 14: 42 New
        -2
        No, they are buying a new batch to sell in the USA ...
        1. Charik
          Charik 24 August 2020 21: 05 New
          0
          And the GDP itself offered the Americans
    5. Prisoner
      Prisoner 23 August 2020 15: 50 New
      -2
      And "where is the money, Zin"? Most likely it will butt in economy class. hi
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 23 August 2020 17: 38 New
        0
        Quote: Captive
        And "where is the money, Zin"? Most likely it will butt in economy class.

        hi
        As far as I understand, the Turks associate the payment for the second batch of S-400 with the condition of transferring the design documentation for the complexes to them. Lip no fool. We received the "silversmiths" from the states for transferring our complex to them, and now hand over the documentation and regulations for free. Famously.
    6. Sniper
      Sniper 23 August 2020 16: 10 New
      11
      FSMTSRussia denied information about the signing of a contract on the supply of the second regiment of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems S-400 to Turkey, the TV channel "Zvezda" reports with reference to the director of the department Dmitry Shugaev.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 23 August 2020 16: 15 New
        +2
        The Turks also said that a new contract for the supply of S-400s has been signed, adding that the form of calculating the price and delivery time is being discussed.
    7. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 16: 13 New
      -1
      Quote: cokol-161
      Will the Greeks buy the S-400, or will they, with their outdated S-300, fight for Cyprus with the Asmans?

      Yes, there may be interesting options around the S-400. Air defense systems are weapons of defense, protection of sovereignty, you can sell to everyone, these are not fighters or tanks.
  2. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 23 August 2020 14: 05 New
    +5
    Well, yes, well, yes, and then we will wait for our downed planes in some Libya, or somewhere else. Recently Turkey's interests have not coincided at all with those of Russia.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 23 August 2020 14: 12 New
      10
      And the interests of the Ottomans in general do not coincide with anyone .. Everyone has managed to trample on corns .. Without exception. A reasonable question arises - isn't Erdogan taking on a lot?
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 23 August 2020 18: 37 New
        +1
        everything from the economy and the number of inhabitants

        the other size of the country in GDP is a counterweight to Israel and others on the BBV and the Wed sea ........
        we are paired with the USA, they will sell the F35 to the Greeks and others against the Turks.
        dangerous game has begun
    2. g1v2
      g1v2 23 August 2020 14: 53 New
      +6
      As practice has shown. according to their interests, the Turks normally negotiate with us. Even when both parties are involved in the OBD, they agree calmly. The main thing is that the interests of Turkey more and more do not coincide with the interests of other NATO countries.
      The United States tried to overthrow the Sultan in 16, but unsuccessfully and received an open slap in the face with Turkey's 400 purchases from us. In response, Turkey has already been excluded from the F35 program, while some of its systems were produced there. Almaz-Antey is already satisfied, the UAC is rolling up its wedges.
      The Turks have razor-sharp relations with the Greeks and Cypriots. Disputed territories and the Cyprus problem. Recently, the Turks and Greeks in the squadron moved forward to meet when a Turkish vessel was conducting test drilling in disputed zones. Until the territorial problems with the Turks are resolved, no gas will flow from Leviathan to Europe. Gazprom approves.
      With the Franks, it has already come to clashes over Libya. The ships pointed missiles at each other. French special forces and aviation against the Turks in Libya are used. By the way, there are rumors that in Mali, together with the Turks, we threw out the pro-French production, but Mali is the main source of uranium for France. Rosatom applauds.
      BY THE TURKS ONLY THAT HUGE FERRY BUILT FOR THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION - ALMOST THE LARGEST CIVIL SHIP IN THEIR HISTORY. It will run between Ust Luga and Kaliningrad. PM trade is mutual.
  3. paul3390
    paul3390 23 August 2020 14: 10 New
    -1
    Something I am not catching up with - what are the Ottomans to us, stupid sidekicks that we are selling them extreme air defense developments? Or is there a type of cunning bookmarks, such as ours, it does not knock down? But in any case, the strengthening of Turkey, whatever one may say, is definitely not good for us .. It hurts too much for their sultan's pontov lately it has become a bit too much ..
    1. iConst
      iConst 23 August 2020 14: 15 New
      +7
      Quote: paul3390
      What are we, lefty sidekicks that we sell them extreme air defense developments?

      Firstly, this is not an "extreme" development, although it is very relevant. The S-500 has practically gone.
      Secondly, this is a powerful Pi-Ar move and an advertisement for Russian Weapons (just like that - with capital letters) - a NATO country is buying Russian weapons!
      And it is worth a lot!
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 23 August 2020 14: 20 New
        +1
        Advertising still needs to be implemented ... And in the conditions of amerskoy pressure - I strongly doubt that there will be a queue for our air defense. Nobody wants to get under the distribution. And who does not care about it - they will buy it anyway, the same China, India, Iran. For they have no special alternatives. Strengthening the Ottomans is a questionable occupation, to put it mildly.
        1. iConst
          iConst 23 August 2020 14: 41 New
          +4
          Quote: paul3390
          Advertising still needs to be implemented ...
          How deeply noticed! No offense! Good?

          Quote: paul3390
          And in the conditions of amerskoy pressure - I strongly doubt that a line will line up for our air defense. Nobody wants to get under the distribution.
          The pressure and talk about the precariousness of their position. Dissatisfaction with the states is growing. The dollar pump is worn out, and such an empire needs to get some money somewhere.
          Or do you believe that a country of 320 million people can have an economy of a quarter of the world's GDP? Against the same Europe of 900 million? Are they an order of magnitude more hardworking? Or more talented?
          The printing press, living in debt and interest on each transaction in dollars - this is the base of the untold wealth of the United States. But these nishtyaks are slowly drying up.
          So the hegemon is twitching.

          Quote: paul3390
          Strengthening the Ottomans is a dubious occupation, to put it mildly .. How not to say - but we will have to butt with them on any
          The S-400 will not work on our aircraft. You can relax ...
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 24 August 2020 09: 01 New
            +1
            900 million within what geographical limits? There are 500 million people in the EU.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 23 August 2020 14: 22 New
        +3
        "NATO country buys Russian weapons!" ///
        - '
        Duc .., recourse
        then it is necessary to enter with trump cards:
        sell the S-400 to the USA.
        Then (according to your logic) there will be a frenzied PR: "the main NATO country is buying Russian weapons!"
        Lockheed will immediately go bankrupt with shame. smile
        1. iConst
          iConst 23 August 2020 14: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Duc ..,
          then it is necessary to enter with trump cards:
          sell the S-400 to the USA.

          Choi, are you so nervous? Am I wrong somewhere?
          Turkey is no longer a NATO member? Not?
          Don't talk about PR - and then why are the Merkans so hysterical?

          No, my friend - they will be hysterical precisely because 1 is a NATO country, 2 is an advertisement for Russian Weapons, well, and a cherry on the cake - they sent the hegemon into a pedestrian erotic ... wink

          App .: And I understand perfectly why Israel is also with a nervous tic ...
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 23 August 2020 14: 53 New
            -2
            On the contrary, I calmed down when it was confirmed that Turkey would not receive the F-35.
            The F-35 is a modern offensive system. This would be unpleasant for Israel.
            And the S-400 is a modern defensive system. Israel is not going to attack Turkey, therefore - to your health! drinks
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 23 August 2020 16: 17 New
              +1
              If Trump stays, the Turks will end up with the F-35.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 23 August 2020 17: 06 New
                +2
                Not a fact ... Erdogan went too far - angered Congress. Ban on F-35 approved by Congress. This is much higher than a presidential decree. And Congress doesn't like repealing its own laws.
                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 23 August 2020 23: 33 New
                  -1
                  Not immediately, but it will resolve over time, everything will get better. Sometimes it seems that this is part of a big game. After all, in strategic matters the United States does not go against Turkey, although it can do it. Hence the conclusion that everything is not as we see in reality.
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 23 August 2020 14: 58 New
          +5
          The Pentagon has been buying helicopters from us for the Afghan army for several years. We still supply rocket engines for launch vehicles in the USA. If they want, we will sell the c400 - no problem. As well as sold the C35 and C400 to China with the most powerful military hardware. Why not? request
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 23 August 2020 15: 04 New
            +4
            1) These rocket engines are civilian technology. They are not installed on ICBMs.
            2) S-400 - military system. Selling weapons to a potential adversary or a member of a hostile military alliance is a risky move.
            3) This also applies to sales of the Su-35 and S-400 to China.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 23 August 2020 18: 25 New
              0
              If a weapon system has hit the market, then it makes no sense to keep it secret. It is viewed as a commodity. Now this is the best system in its segment on the market - so you need to use it and conquer the market. This is not only a good bonus for our military-industrial complex, but also reduces the cost of production of equipment for itself. Well, advertising, of course. When countries with powerful military-industrial complexes buy our weapons, this clearly demonstrates to everyone that they are the best and creates demand for them.
              After the Chinese, the Egyptians have already bought su35. Negotiations are underway with Indonesia and India. There is infa that has already been sold to Algeria. From time to time the Turks talk about buying. This is a good advertisement for our weapons. At the same time, it is clear that after the first sale of its performance characteristics, all interested countries will leave. But this is far from a fact. that they will be able to repeat them and implement them. But I repeat - this is an extremely high-tech product that allows us to earn money and develop technologies further. Again, the purchase of such weapons is a political declaration on both sides. This means that neither the Turks nor we consider each other to be enemies. And given that the Turks are members of a bloc hostile to us, this is a serious problem for all other NATO countries.
        3. Cristall
          Cristall 23 August 2020 15: 06 New
          -2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Then (according to your logic) there will be a frenzied PR: "the main NATO country is buying Russian weapons!"
          Lockheed goes bankrupt with shame

          an absolute cunning plan.
          I have already lost what line of the party and who is Turkey, whether the best partner, or an enemy and an accomplice of terrorists. Otherwise, everything is already on gas (the Turkish stream is empty) and the gas hub was honored in vain.
          In general, as I understand it, everything fluctuates with the party line.
          Need to sell-the best partner collapse of NATO
          There will be a clash - a knife in the back ah yay yay well, we'll show them de tomatoes grow ..
        4. vitvit123
          vitvit123 23 August 2020 15: 08 New
          +3
          Of course, I apologize for interfering ...
          But the question immediately caught on: what did the United States turn to the Russian Federation with such a request? Maybe they would have sold if the United States asked ..., but since we will sell if there is no request ...
          It turns out a little incorrectly.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 23 August 2020 15: 13 New
            0
            I was joking about the US, of course.
            The States have S-300s at their training grounds, but
            they would gladly purchase the S-400 for cash. To test aircraft on them during exercises.
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 23 August 2020 15: 14 New
              +2
              Well, there was no request on their part? Or am I wrong?
              And the joke, that was, with a share of a joke, with a share ...
        5. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 23 August 2020 22: 31 New
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          then it is necessary to enter with trump cards:
          sell the S-400 to the USA.

          They have already entered with trump cards:
          On September 5 last year, Putin offered Trump to buy Russian hypersonic missiles.
          Putin has offered the US to sell the latest Russian missiles to restore the balance of power. The Americans replied that they themselves would soon create their own hypersonic weapons.
          "But why spend money when we have already spent, we can get something from them without compromising our security," said Vladimir Putin
    2. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 14: 18 New
      +8
      paul3390 (Paul)
      Something I am not catching up with - what are the Ottomans to us, stupid sidekicks that we are selling them extreme air defense developments?
      The complexes that are exported are not at all what are supplied to our troops. There, the characteristics are cut and there are probably bookmarks.
      The presence of the S-300 in Greece does not cause any panic, but they have it for a long time.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 23 August 2020 14: 21 New
        +1
        It's not that something is being stolen, it's just that Erdogan will have to be put in place sooner or later .. And it would be much better if by that time he did not have an advanced air defense system ..
        1. loki565
          loki565 23 August 2020 14: 26 New
          +4
          It's not that something is being stolen, it's just that Erdogan will have to be put in place sooner or later .. And it would be much better if by that time he did not have an advanced air defense system ..

          If he did not have the air defense that we know far and wide, he would have F35, and this is much more problematic. As they say, there are two birds with one stone)))
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 23 August 2020 14: 28 New
            -1
            For some reason, it seems to me that they will have penguins too .. Americans are also not extreme fools, they understand that if the Ottomans do not buy from them, it means they will buy in another place .. Does the USA need it? It's easier to stop wandering around and sell. Moreover, the penguin does not fly without state permission, a very convenient product for control.
        2. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 14: 29 New
          +3
          paul3390 (Paul)
          It's not that something is being stolen, it's just that Erdogan will have to be put in place sooner or later .. And it would be much better if by that time he did not have an advanced air defense system ..
          I believe that in the event of an open conflict between Russia and Turkey, this air defense will not help either Erdogad or anyone else.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 23 August 2020 14: 31 New
            -1
            And it may not be. But if, say, they start to blame Assad's buddy in batches of letaki, will it really benefit us? After all, Putin will definitely not fit into a real scuffle in this situation. Not ours are being brought down?
          2. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 23 August 2020 16: 22 New
            0
            His name is Recep Tayyip Erdogan. By writing "bastard" you will not humiliate him, you are nervous, completely.
            1. KARAKURT777
              KARAKURT777 23 August 2020 23: 09 New
              0
              There are enough goonies everywhere.
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 23 August 2020 14: 56 New
      +3
      The Turks are going to break with NATO, which cannot but be beneficial to us. They have already quarreled with many. Even if they are not kicked out, they will no longer be trusted. Turkey is the straits and our only counterweight in the World Cup. If NATO loses it, then the line of confrontation with NATO will seriously decrease. And with the Ottomans, we have learned in recent years to negotiate for mutual benefit.
      1. Azis
        Azis 23 August 2020 22: 39 New
        0
        Quote: g1v2
        Turkey is the straits
        The Turks can even accept a non-aligned status, but there will be straits anyway, i.e. and they will dictate the conditions for the straits. And who will pay more money or what else will give - that and relative loyalty, but always in their own interests
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 23 August 2020 22: 59 New
          +1
          There is a difference - when the straits are controlled by neutral or when they are controlled by a hostile block. Again, in the case of neutrality, the straits should be closed to both sides.
      2. Alex russia
        Alex russia 25 August 2020 13: 01 New
        -1
        Quote: g1v2
        The Turks are going to break with NATO, which cannot but be beneficial to us. They have already quarreled with many. Even if they are not kicked out, they will no longer be trusted. Turkey is the straits and our only counterweight in the World Cup. If NATO loses it, then the line of confrontation with NATO will seriously decrease. And with the Ottomans, we have learned in recent years to negotiate for mutual benefit.

        The Ottomans will soon remember what a sucking reflex means in human physiology, they will face the fate of an outcast of Iran
    4. codetalker
      codetalker 23 August 2020 15: 13 New
      0
      The arms trade takes place within the framework of military-technical cooperation. This is not only to sell some kind of complex, it is also training, service, etc., etc. Military-technical cooperation puts a less developed state in this respect dependent on a more developed one. You understand this when the US gives a loan to some poor Latin American country. What are the problems here?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 August 2020 14: 12 New
    -5
    But what about infa that Turkey has agreed with the United States to sell them our S-400 ... It is clear that this is shameless nonsense, but who is the same! A tricky thing, geopolitics ... but some people think that nothing could be easier ... tongue
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 23 August 2020 14: 20 New
      0
      But Lenin, however, said that the cook can and should govern the state.
      And some, even without the skills of a cook, decided that it was possible to operate from a squeezed sofa.
      "Experts", damn it! laughing
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 14: 32 New
        +6
        Vlad.by (Vladimir)
        But Lenin, however, said that the cook can and should govern the state.
        Do not lie, Lenin did not say this, or rather, this is what he said:
        We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook are not capable of immediately taking control of the state. In this we agree with the Cadets, and with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudice that it is to run the state, to carry out the everyday, daily work of the administration, only rich or from wealthy families officials can take. We demand that training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, immediately begin to be involved in this training.
        Do not wishful thinking.
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 23 August 2020 15: 34 New
          -4
          I applaud you! More precisely, I applaud.! I applaud, in short. With two hands. Well it must be how well Vladimir Ilyich was outlined. But you got the point from the sofalaughing
  5. czes
    czes 23 August 2020 14: 13 New
    -5
    Kremlin hucksters - traitors to the Motherland
  6. asura
    asura 23 August 2020 14: 29 New
    +3
    As a gift for the first supply, Turkey practically stopped importing gas from Russia. What next geopolitical victories and achievements can we expect from the continuation of the banquet?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 August 2020 14: 57 New
      +1
      Turkey purchased liquefied gas from Qatar for storage at a low price. Qatar is dumping.
      Summer, no gas demand. Therefore, the Turkish stream stopped.
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 23 August 2020 16: 45 New
      0
      Quote: asura
      Turkey practically stopped importing gas from Russia

      supplies to Turkey in the first half of the year fell 1,7 times - to 4,7 billion cubic meters. m. - significantly reduced, but still not "practical stopped" ...
      But about the fields, at first there was information that more than 800, now more than 300 (the ready gas consumption by the Turks is about 50 billion cubic meters), but how much is actually recoverable and will be extracted per year ??? - how many wells have been drilled (so far, as I understand it, one + seismic survey), so that the volume can be specified both upward and downward + you should not discount the seismicity of this area (the same Dutch Groningen is closed due to seismicity, and here it is, and the way it works out - it may not work out, or maybe ...).
  7. Graz
    Graz 23 August 2020 14: 29 New
    0
    a mistake to arm Turkish expansionism, in the end we ourselves will face it
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 23 August 2020 14: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Graz
      a mistake to arm Turkish expansionism, in the end we ourselves will face it


      Whether we face it or not is not yet known. But the fact that this day, this contract is toxic for the Turkey-NATO link, this is not bad for us.
    2. Cristall
      Cristall 23 August 2020 15: 27 New
      -2
      Quote: Graz
      a mistake to arm Turkish expansionism, in the end we ourselves will face it

      Money is above all.
      And if it is also half Russian, it's not bad at all.
      For Turkey.
      For the Russian Federation, this is a cunning plan.
  8. Svetlana
    Svetlana 23 August 2020 14: 35 New
    +1
    Does anyone know what currency the contract is for? Rubles, Dollars, Euros? Or maybe Lyra?
  9. Joker62
    Joker62 23 August 2020 14: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: Deniska999
    Something must cover new gas fields in Turkey)

    And please tell me or enlighten me - does Turkey have technological equipment for extracting resources at a depth of 2000 meters? what This is not a knee-deep sea for you ... wassat
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 August 2020 15: 07 New
      +1
      American, Dutch, Norwegian or British firms will be hired.
      They will also bring the platforms by tugs.
      ---
      Israel received gas from Noble Energy. The platforms were overtaken from the Gulf of Mexico.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 23 August 2020 15: 46 New
        +1
        Türkiye Petrolleri Anonim Ortaklığı (TPAO) says production will be carried out
  10. iouris
    iouris 23 August 2020 14: 46 New
    0
    When are elections in Turkey?
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 23 August 2020 15: 32 New
      +1
      Why do you need elections? If you want to remove Erdogan, you will not succeed. He will be re-elected, at least tomorrow, at least in 3-4 years. Moreover, after the new gas fields, his rating has increased. You will see that by the end of the year the Turks will open a couple more fields, bringing the explored reserves of up to trillion cubic meters. In 2023, they will supply gas to the consumer from the Black Sea, there will be fireworks, fanfare, even higher ratings ...
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 24 August 2020 09: 11 New
        0
        As far as I understand, Erdogan is not in very good health. This is his main problem.
  11. Rostislav
    Rostislav 23 August 2020 16: 23 New
    +1
    the contract for the supply of the second set of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey has already been signed, and the financial terms of the contract are currently being discussed.

    So has the financial section, which is an integral part of the contract, signed or is still under discussion? The price and settlement procedure are an integral part of the contract. Until they are agreed upon, it is nonsense to say "the contract has been signed".
    There are no other journalists left, except for such "aftorof"?
  12. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 23 August 2020 16: 35 New
    +2
    This is another confirmation that the 400 complex is suitable. Turks are anyone but simpletons. We tested and agreed on the second. Pendostanians will be hysterical for the second time or, having lost their virginity with the first division, will they now perceive it more and more calmly?
  13. Klingon
    Klingon 23 August 2020 17: 03 New
    -1
    Quote: Shurik70
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    The Greeks only harm Russia. And also .... Orthodox.

    Russia will sell export weapons to everyone on whom it has not signed restrictive sanctions.
    The Greeks do not harm Russia ... But they are not useful either.
    And the Greeks will not buy the S-400 themselves. Gut is thin America tease.

    nope, that's not why. or rather, not only for this. The Greeks are sitting on European subsidies. The main donor is Germany. And therefore, they will instantly fly off the European subsidies for the misuse of funds. And believe me, Germany will demand the money back.
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  15. musorg
    musorg 24 August 2020 12: 01 New
    +2
    And apparently the same on credit?
  16. Pavel57
    Pavel57 24 August 2020 19: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: loki565
    Yeah, like the Serbs, they wanted the C400, but the money was only enough for the shell)))

    The Serbs bought missiles from the PRC.
  17. Alex russia
    Alex russia 25 August 2020 12: 55 New
    -1
    this complex can be seen after the purchase, the Turks will be sent straight to the amers in exchange for the f-35
  18. Alex russia
    Alex russia 25 August 2020 13: 13 New
    0
    Quote: paul3390
    Something I am not catching up with - what are the Ottomans to us, stupid sidekicks that we are selling them extreme air defense developments? Or is there a type of cunning bookmarks, such as ours, it does not knock down? But in any case, the strengthening of Turkey, whatever one may say, is definitely not good for us .. It hurts too much for their sultan's pontov lately it has become a bit too much ..

    Do not work, my dear, judging by the comments, there are only pro-Turkish trolls sitting here, it is useless for them to prove something, the history of the long-term "friendship" between Turkey and Russia is unknown to them, they ignore it, as well as the fiery promises of "love" from Turkey in the form of mockery of the bodies of our dead soldiers, pilots, ambassadors, constant conflicts in all regions of the world, everywhere our interests are diametrically opposed, everything to them ...
  19. Alex russia
    Alex russia 25 August 2020 13: 26 New
    -1
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    The Greeks only harm Russia. And also .... Orthodox.

    But the Turks are useful to us, real "friends". The main thing to these "friends" is, God forbid, turn your back! ;)))
    I wonder why the Greeks annoyed you so much? They seem to have never fought with Russia, and in the same World War II they fought against Hitler, in contrast to the kind of "neutral" Turkey that kept divisions on the border with the USSR and was only waiting for the right moment to invade the Caucasus! I'm not even talking about the endless wars with Turkey in the past, and in our time when Turkey was a permanent bridgehead for NATO troops to invade the USSR! Do you think my naive that something will change in Turkish politics now ??? Don't be dumb!
  20. Protos
    Protos 26 August 2020 23: 29 New
    0
    Quote: loki565
    Yeah, like the Serbs, they wanted the C400, but the money was only enough for the shell)))

    Serbs were presented with a former Ukrainian S-300PS after the capital wink