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Top 3 weapons of modern artillery in terms of firing range

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Despite the development of various types of weapons, the "god of war" artillery retains its position. One of the most important characteristics of artillery pieces that ensure their advantages on the battlefield is the firing range. Let's define the most long-range weapons of our time.


PzH 2000 (Federal Republic of Germany)


The PzH 2000 self-propelled artillery mount - Panzerhaubitze 2000 - was developed by the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann back in 1998. ACS is equipped with a 155-mm cannon, has an automated fire control system, an automatic loading system, a fire detection and automatic fire extinguishing system. The howitzer has a serial firing range of more than 30 kilometers. At a training ground in South Africa, a German self-propelled gun fired an active-rocket projectile with improved aerodynamics for 56 kilometers.

Some military experts, analyzing not only the firing range, but also other characteristics of the German self-propelled guns, consider the PzH 2000 to be the most advanced such weapon in the world. It is even called the benchmark for other self-propelled artillery installations, which is worth looking up to.


But in terms of firing range, as it turned out, the German complex is inferior to the Russian Coalition. In addition, the German self-propelled guns, according to the estimates of the German military themselves, have such a drawback as low accuracy of fire. This was revealed during the use of self-propelled guns by parts of the Bundeswehr in Afghanistan. We put the German SPG in third place in our top.

G6 (South Africa)


In the late 1970s - early 1980s. the situation in the south of the African continent was extremely difficult: wars flared up in Angola, Mozambique, Namibia. In this regard, the leadership of South Africa was tasked with creating a highly mobile self-propelled howitzer capable of quickly covering long distances, including over rough terrain.

The South African company Denel Land Systems took over the development of the howitzer. Since 1988, the G6 ACS began to enter the South African army. Unlike many other SPGs, the G6 is wheeled. But its clear advantage is its firing range.


Until recently, the G6 held the world record for firing range: it has the ability to fire a rocket projectile with improved aerodynamics at a distance of 67 kilometers. The usual firing range of a South African self-propelled howitzer is in the region of 50 kilometers with active-rocket high-explosive fragmentation shells and 38 kilometers with conventional high-explosive fragmentation shells.


2С35 "Coalition-SV" (Russian Federation)


Russian 152-mm artillery complex 2S35 "Coalition-SV" was created on the basis of tank "T-90". It is designed to destroy tactical nuclear weapons, artillery, tanks, armored vehicles, air and anti-missile defense of the enemy. It is difficult to underestimate the capabilities of the Russian artillery complex in modern warfare. Not so long ago, a wheeled version of a self-propelled howitzer was presented.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation claims that in terms of its main characteristics, the "Coalition-SV" is 1,5-2 times superior to all other self-propelled artillery installations, including all self-propelled guns in service with the armies of the potential enemy - the United States and NATO countries. But the main advantage of the "Coalition-SV", thanks to which it got to the first place in our top, is its firing range. It is up to 80 kilometers.


Wheeled version of 2S35 on the way to shooting. Shot from the reportage of TK "Zvezda"

No self-propelled artillery unit in the world can boast of such a range. The 2S35 significantly surpasses in firing range such well-known modern self-propelled guns as the British AS-90 "Braveheart", the Chinese PLZ-05, the German Panzerhaubitze 2000 and even the modernized versions of the American M109 self-propelled guns.

So, with serial ammunition "Paladin" shoots only at 22 km, the German self-propelled gun Panzerhaubitze 2000 - at 30-40 kilometers, and our "Coalition" easily hits a target located 40 kilometers from the ACS. So Russia has something to be proud of - in artillery, we are still at their best, which the American experts themselves note with alarm. For example, in the magazine The National Interest, the low firing range compared to the Russian 2S35 was called the “Achilles heel” of the M109A6 “Paladin” ACS.
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  1. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 23 August 2020 13: 36 New
    30
    Article for Yandex Zen.
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 23 August 2020 19: 26 New
      +3
      A German "Colossal" is considered a howitzer, or what?
      150 km maximum range (aiming - 120 km), 210 mm caliber, date of creation - 1st World ...

      By the way, this gun just showed the main problem of long-range guns, shooting at the maximum distance. Fuck you hit the target.
      Therefore, all modern active-rocket projectiles should also taxi in flight. You can't do without it.
      1. not main
        not main 23 August 2020 23: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Shurik70
        A German "Colossal" is considered a howitzer, or what?

        Of course not! This is a GUN with no options. You at least wondered about the differences between guns, howitzers, mortars!
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 24 August 2020 07: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: non-primary
          This is a CANNON with no options

          Why "no options".
          By the ratio of barrel length to caliber - yes, a gun. But there are definitions not only by the length of the barrel to the caliber.
          The elevation angle is 55 degrees, half of the barrel is smooth-bore, shoots along a hinged trajectory.
          Rather, it is a hybrid of a cannon and a howitzer.
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 26 August 2020 04: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Shurik70
        (sighting - 120 km)
        Here it is necessary to clarify that the "two" is Paris at the beginning of the last century. Today, even for tactical nuclear weapons, this is not just a lot.
        If the projectile was active-rocket, it would be possible to shoot at Britain.
    2. snake
      snake 23 August 2020 22: 32 New
      20
      PzH 2000 - 458 pcs.
      G6 - 145 pcs.
      2S35 "Coalition-SV" (for parades) - 12 pcs.
      But we are still the best and most advanced, right guys?
      1. SARANCHA1976
        SARANCHA1976 25 August 2020 11: 20 New
        +1
        There is a lack of experienced shells for the coalition (in pieces) with which it fires at such a distance. There you can measure everything in tens
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 26 August 2020 04: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: serpent
        But we are still the best and most advanced, right guys?
        And Britashka wants to give up tanks, because painting is expensive. And the Germans still have them so-so. But you will shit by yourself, blowing snot at a potential enemy ..
        ... and omit the fact that the Coalition has just begun to be released - it is not convenient.
        1. snake
          snake 26 August 2020 14: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Simargl
          And Britashka wants to give up tanks, because painting is expensive. And the Germans still have them so-so.

          It's about the SPG ...
          Quote: Simargl
          But you will shit by yourself, blowing snot at a potential enemy ..

          Do you do this when you like something?
          Quote: Simargl
          and omit the fact that the Coalition has just begun to be released - it is not convenient.

          Is it convenient to rank first in the top 3?
      3. Jager
        Jager 28 August 2020 09: 02 New
        -1
        PzH has been produced since 1998. When was the 2S35 put into service?
    3. Tritebemalo
      Tritebemalo 24 August 2020 19: 33 New
      0
      What is the CONTINUOUS firing range?
  2. steelmaker
    steelmaker 23 August 2020 13: 56 New
    +3
    Syria has S-400s, S-300s, Shells, Su-35s, but I've never heard of the Coalition. Why? In Syria, there is now a "Coalition" place.
  3. Free wind
    Free wind 23 August 2020 13: 57 New
    14
    Low range, high range, and what is the firing accuracy of conventional shells? I can throw a stone about 40 meters, but I need to nail a duck that is 20 meters away from me, because I want to eat. From the stones that I throw at 40 meters, the duck is neither hot nor cold, and at 20 meters, as well as at forty, I cannot get into it, but I throw it far.
    1. Gato
      Gato 23 August 2020 14: 15 New
      +7
      From the stones that I throw 40 meters, the duck is neither hot nor cold

      Well, the goals are different, a little more duck as well. For example, the upcoming MSB. Even a few arriving sightings will sharply cool the ardor, if the commander is sane. If not, a runaway will follow. You will not argue that even one 152 or 155 mm battery is garbage that you shouldn't pay attention to?
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 23 August 2020 14: 43 New
        +1
        At 20-30 kilometers? Feet in hand and in front, and shoot as much as you want in the field, in the forest.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 23 August 2020 15: 05 New
          +5
          Quote: Gato
          Well, the goals are different, a little more duck as well. For example, the upcoming MSB. Even a few arriving sightings will sharply cool the ardor, if the commander is sane. If not, a runaway will follow. You won't be claiming

          Exactly ! good
        2. Gato
          Gato 23 August 2020 15: 49 New
          11
          Feet in hands and in front, and shoot as much as you want in the field, in the forest

          I am a humane person. I sincerely wish you not to find yourself in the ranks of those fleeing from the fields and forests. That is, from their positions into open fields and forests under the friendly sights of the mortar gunners. And then, no less friendly attackers will rise from the forward positions, who only slept and saw - well, how can these assholes be knocked out of the warm trenches. fellow
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 23 August 2020 16: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: Gato
        Well, the goals are different, a little more duck as well. For example, the upcoming MSB.

        D-20. A very accurate weapon.
        When firing at a maximum range of 17.400 Vd = 60, Vb = 11.

        That is, when you take into account everything, everything, everything, you get an ellipse of 480 meters by 88 meters. So it goes...
        1. Gato
          Gato 23 August 2020 16: 13 New
          +6
          When firing at maximum range

          I don’t want to disappoint you. But firing at the maximum range could take place up to 4-10 years (maximum) after the manufacture of the barrel with proper storage. After servicing the forces of l / c, all this sharply condescended to unacceptable (to put it not in military terms) indicators. It's funny about accuracy.
          1. Gato
            Gato 23 August 2020 16: 19 New
            +3
            you will get an ellipse of 480 meters by 88 meters

            Do you seriously believe that?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 23 August 2020 16: 29 New
              +2
              Quote: Gato
              Do you seriously believe that?

              It is intended.
              These are data from the D-20 firing tables
              1. Gato
                Gato 23 August 2020 16: 39 New
                -3
                These are data from the D-20 firing tables

                Dear colleague, if the data from the shopping center always corresponded to the real data, we would always win. They are written for the completely ignorant - who know nothing about shooting for at least average data.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 23 August 2020 16: 42 New
                  13
                  Quote: Gato
                  if the data from the shopping center always corresponded to real data

                  And they always match.

                  Quote: Gato
                  They are written for the completely ignorant

                  laughing laughing laughing
                  Exactly the opposite.
                  Only absolute ignoramuses can do without them.
                  1. Gato
                    Gato 23 August 2020 16: 56 New
                    -3
                    And they always match.

                    May I not believe you? You live in some other universe, where the gunners always get where they need to. Flyers always attack enemy targets, and don't even fly up to friendly ones. Mortar men never, never beat on their own?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 23 August 2020 18: 17 New
                      +9
                      Quote: Gato
                      You live in some other universe, where the gunners always get where they need to.

                      Are you sure that accurate shooting tables are enough to get you where you want to go?
                      1. Gato
                        Gato 23 August 2020 19: 08 New
                        -7
                        Are you sure that accurate shooting tables are enough to get you where you want to go?

                        Am I that naive? I am relatively many years old - and I know that for art to get anywhere, many factors must coincide. Including those who have nothing to do with tactics.
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 23 August 2020 19: 10 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Gato
                        Am I that naive?

                        Apparently.
                      3. Gato
                        Gato 23 August 2020 19: 48 New
                        0
                        Apparently.

                        Then each of us will remain with his convictions. This is true anyway. And also my respect hi
                      4. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 23 August 2020 21: 16 New
                        +8
                        Quote: Gato
                        Then each of us will remain with our convictions

                        These are not "beliefs", they are knowledge.
                        Shooting tables are calculated and confirmed with REAL fire.
                        Nonsense "pilots cannot hit by strangers, but get hit by their own people, it means that the vehicles are wrong - this is just nonsense. And not" beliefs "
                      5. Gato
                        Gato 23 August 2020 22: 01 New
                        +5
                        These are not "beliefs", they are knowledge.

                        Quite right. My platoon was twice bombed by ours, once hit by mortars - with two 200s. But there were reasons for that - the war, and no one canceled the friendly fire. But all the same, disgusting.
                        Aviation is bullshit, they almost always smear. Mortars are scary.
          2. Gato
            Gato 23 August 2020 17: 33 New
            -3
            [quote] they always match] [\ / quote]
            Sir, but you can give specific data, otherwise you look like just sir - and to some extent like a British scientist - I don't want to say anything funny
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 23 August 2020 18: 17 New
              +2
              Quote: Gato
              Sir, can you give specific data

              wassat
              "Specific data" of what?
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 23 August 2020 16: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: Free Wind
    and what is the accuracy of shooting with conventional shells?

    Higher.
    Thanks to the presence of the radar.
    1. Gato
      Gato 23 August 2020 16: 21 New
      -6
      Due to the presence of the radar

      You can neigh a little laughing Both about availability and about efficiency
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 23 August 2020 16: 33 New
        +9
        Quote: Gato
        You can laugh a little bit Both about availability and about working capacity


        It will be laughing at yourself
        1. Gato
          Gato 23 August 2020 16: 47 New
          -7
          It will be laughing at yourself

          Are there performance indicators? I do not mind arrows on JPG, I can do that too. Any thoughts?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 23 August 2020 18: 22 New
            +6
            Quote: Gato
            Are there performance indicators?

            Aha
            Zeroing with ARSOM has been carried out for 70 years.
            1. Gato
              Gato 23 August 2020 18: 58 New
              -5
              [quote] Zeroing with ARSOM has been carried out for 70 years already / quote]
              Have you personally attended? I do not mean that everything is wrong, but how many specially trained personnel there are.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 23 August 2020 19: 01 New
                11
                Quote: Gato
                Personally present?

                When zeroing in with ARSOM? Was present.
                1. Gato
                  Gato 23 August 2020 20: 16 New
                  -3
                  Attended

                  I'm not asking about the percentage of hits - not idiot, but would YOU personally sit in a trench?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 23 August 2020 21: 12 New
                    +9
                    Quote: Gato
                    but would you personally sit in a trench?

                    In what the hell is the trench ???
                    This is a common sighting, like sighting with a rangefinder or by NZR.
                    Moreover, it is zeroing, which does not require any "trenches". The gun, the station, and the battalion / SOB fire control point are all in the rear.

                    We spotted our projectile on the trajectory, spotted the second one, extrapolation, obtained the coordinates of the point of impact, compared with the coordinates of the target, received deviations, introduced corrections and proceeded to shoot to kill
                    All.
                    But if earlier this was done for the main weapon of the battery, moreover, by means of the senior commander, then for the "Coalition" this will be available for each weapon. Constantly.
                    1. Gato
                      Gato 23 August 2020 22: 17 New
                      -5
                      Oh.

                      I beg your pardon, that is, there is no BAN officer (close art guidance)? Who is coordinating the fire?
                    2. Gato
                      Gato 23 August 2020 22: 20 New
                      -4
                      As far as sclerosis does not change me, a coma should deal with this. battalion or regimental BG.
                    3. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 August 2020 09: 32 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Gato
                      I beg your pardon, that is, there is no BAN officer (close art guidance)? Who is coordinating the fire?

                      We do not have such officers at all and never have.
                      We are not British or American.
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 26 August 2020 04: 40 New
        0
        Aren't these counter-battery radars?
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  • Lontus
    Lontus 23 August 2020 14: 12 New
    11
    Chasing an ultra-long range in artillery, let alone measure it, is stupid.
    For her, other parameters are more important - first of all, accuracy and real combat rate of fire.

    1. The long-range unguided projectile is extremely inaccurate and pointless.
    2. A guided missile is more expensive than a guided missile, carries a smaller warhead, and is much less flexible in application.

    Barrel art, MLRS, Guided Missiles (UR) - each type has its own optimal niche for use.
    With the development of technical progress, the SD niche is expanding.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 August 2020 16: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: Lontus
      For her, other parameters are more important - first of all, accuracy and real combat rate of fire.

      And the time from the receipt of target designation to the opening of fire.
      1. Lontus
        Lontus 23 August 2020 17: 13 New
        +6
        Quote: Spade
        Quote: Lontus
        For her, other parameters are more important - first of all, accuracy and real combat rate of fire.

        And the time from the receipt of target designation to the opening of fire.

        I just meant this and other moments by adding "real combat" to the characteristic "rate of fire"
  • Nehist
    Nehist 23 August 2020 14: 16 New
    +7
    In principle, already at the beginning of the article, you can determine who the author is !!! How enchanting nonsense got ...
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 23 August 2020 15: 17 New
      +9
      Yes, even such, but this is really a military article. Comments are thrown around, be healthy. There already later, not here and not long ago. Come in love, savor the comments. The most valuable thing from articles is just comments. They contain all the sweetness, strength and fire!
      P.S. Offer to moderators. Articles are mono and do not write, just a title and that's it. And in the comments everyone will take in their simplicity, who will take the Winter one, who the Reichstag. The choice is academic for every taste
  • czes
    czes 23 August 2020 14: 20 New
    +1
    "... So, with serial ammunition" Paladin "shoots only at 22 km, the German self-propelled gun Panzerhaubitze 2000 - at 30-40 kilometers, and our" Coalition "easily hits a target located 40 kilometers from the ACS ..." Practice will show, where are the paper achievements, and where are the real ones ...
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 23 August 2020 15: 11 New
      +1
      Well, at least hit the target, meter by meter. at a distance of 10 km.
    2. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 24 August 2020 12: 05 New
      0
      "Practice will show where the achievements are on paper and where are the real ones ...
      To do this, the Coalition will have to be supplied in a normal number of troops, and this is not yet expected.
  • JD1979
    JD1979 23 August 2020 14: 22 New
    -2
    Well ... like shouting Hurray and throwing caps. They say when a child has grasped the ruler, until he measures everything, he will not calm down.
  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 23 August 2020 14: 38 New
    +5
    PzH 2000 - "semi-automatic" loading, there is a negro who sends charges.
    Automation only "shoves" shells. And as a "restless" in the department, as well as the second "Negro" (5 people crew at a super modern automated self-propelled gun).
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 15: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: BoratSagdiev
      (5 people crew from a super modern automated self-propelled gun).

      These are calculator operators. request and let's say, accelerator providers. what
  • Gato
    Gato 23 August 2020 14: 47 New
    -3
    And once again nothing.
    What's the difference what your range of fire is, if there is no clear organization of target designation and fire control. The question is not how many kilometers the howitzers beat, but who controls this fire and how quickly and adequately he can maneuver this fire.
    Let me explain: it is one thing if the artillery group is ruled from the brigade headquarters - another thing when the limits are transferred to the commanders of battalions or groups.
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 23 August 2020 20: 40 New
      0
      Probably about accuracy it is nevertheless necessary to separate in more detail I am not an artelerist and do not know how it works.
      as I understood the criterion of accuracy in tanks - to hit a brick from a distance of a kilometer, as they wrote here. So?
      what is accuracy in artillery? or is it still square shooting?
  • Gato
    Gato 23 August 2020 15: 00 New
    0
    From my (though not very extensive experience) I can say: art is a "thing in itself". It can cover whoever is needed, who is not at all necessary, but most often - "to whom God will send" (and cho, the god of war!). If someone has never seen a senseless and merciless shelling of a vacant lot that no one needs, let him immediately give me a minus. laughing
    1. Local from the Volga
      Local from the Volga 26 August 2020 00: 40 New
      -2
      when you come under shelling, then we'll see what you do on the couch, expert!
  • iouris
    iouris 23 August 2020 15: 05 New
    +3
    Quote 1: "So Russia has something to be proud of." End of quote.
    I do not believe. Is my logic okay? Check it out.
    Quote: 2 "... our" Coalition "easily hits a target located 40 kilometers from the SPG." End of quote.
    Quote 2: "The typical firing range of a South African self-propelled howitzer is around 50 kilometers ..." End of quote. And this was achieved back in 1988.
    1. Borik
      Borik 23 August 2020 15: 43 New
      0
      Quote 2: "The typical firing range of a South African self-propelled howitzer is around 50 kilometers ..." End of quote. And this was achieved back in 1988.

      Quote: 2 "... our" Coalition "easily hits a target located 40 kilometers from the SPG." End quote


      Here the key word is HIT. target 40 kilometers away. And what about the African one? That its range with conventional active-reactive ammunition is 50 km. But she will hit the target there about that there are no words.
      1. Shiden
        Shiden 24 August 2020 19: 16 New
        +1
        In Angola, according to eyewitnesses, the South African geshki did not show their accuracy badly.
    2. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 24 August 2020 16: 06 New
      0
      Quote: iouris
      The usual firing range of the South African self-propelled howitzer is in the region of 50 kilometers ...

      and what is there after the dots? it seems:
      .active-reactive high-explosive fragmentation shells and 38 kilometers with conventional high-explosive fragmentation shells.

      what a stupid fake? request nothing more to do?
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 23 August 2020 15: 41 New
    +5
    Do not forget that although the Germans had super-mega-record guns both in the First World War and in the Second, this did not prevent them from blowing through the war, in view of the fact that the niche of using this weapon turned out to be incommensurate with the scale of other tasks / importance of this particular niche in the most acute moments of the war / the cost of developing, creating, operating and producing ammunition for such systems.

    All this, as it were, hints that you should not chase records in this area, it is better to just give birth to an accurate, powerful and highly mobile product with a margin of modernization.
    1. Gato
      Gato 23 August 2020 17: 51 New
      -1
      Do not forget that although the Germans had super-mega-record guns

      I want to repeat once again - if you have a mega-cannon, a mega-bomb, a mega-infantry - this will do nothing if the enemy has a mega-target. And you don't have it. Is a lot of money a goal? Seriously?
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 23 August 2020 18: 46 New
        +1
        And I will add to yours - not just a "mega-target" but a mega-goal achievable with this weapon. I'm not saying that artillery is the last century - it's just that its functions were successfully and systematically taken away by other means of destruction - which are either more destructive, or more accurate, or more optional, or more compact, etc. An increase in super characteristics in a specific sample in this way may not lead to an increase in the tactical cost of such a product as part of a complex of means. In other words, it will be overspending on unnecessary functionality.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 23 August 2020 16: 27 New
    +6
    Compare military equipment with a thirty-year age difference. This is not comme il faut for a military expert, but for the tabloid press of norms.
  • mvg
    mvg 23 August 2020 16: 58 New
    0
    Interestingly, the author himself then read the article ??? Here's a rabbit. wassat Such a mess, ugly
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 23 August 2020 18: 17 New
    +2
    "and even modernized versions of the American M109 self-propelled guns" - well, just an ideal of ideals! Antediluvian howitzer with cap-loading. An example of 19th century technology. The same PzH-2000 is many times more effective.
  • fn34440
    fn34440 23 August 2020 18: 21 New
    -1
    "Our Minister Shoigu fed the ducks
    Threw them a loaf
    Killed thirteen! "
  • Professor
    Professor 23 August 2020 20: 45 New
    +2
    No self-propelled artillery unit in the world can boast of such a range.

    Uh-huh. Again, it has no analogues in the world. However, we will not mention the fact that the bourgeois with a projectile from NAMMO from L52 hit 150 km. Really, Ilya Polonsky? wink
  • Oleg
    Oleg 24 August 2020 01: 49 New
    0
    I would like to see the accuracy of the coalition
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 August 2020 09: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: Oleg
      I would like to see the accuracy of the coalition

      And I would like to know "why?".
      That's why you need a projectile that is more expensive and less effective than the GMLRS rocket?
      And how many adverts you put out

      And you are trying to substitute concepts. The accuracy of the gun on the one hand and the accuracy of the guided projectile on the other
      1. Oleg
        Oleg 24 August 2020 15: 52 New
        -1
        so show this accuracy
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 August 2020 16: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Oleg
          so show this accuracy

          Once again, the presence of the radar makes the firing accuracy of conventional ammunition higher by default.

          Shooting with zeroing is more accurate than shooting without it. This is not a question of patriotism and other things. These are probability theory and error theory.
  • demiurg
    demiurg 24 August 2020 17: 38 New
    +2
    The meaning of artillery, as an inexpensive cast iron thrower at enemies, is lost somewhere for 30-50 km. And most likely even earlier.
    For example... There is a target, a column of tanks / an entrenched infantry company. At 10 km, we will spend conditionally 500-600 152mm rounds at 100 conditional rubles apiece. At 20 km, about three thousand shells will have to be spent. At 30 km, the number of shells will exceed 10k. And it will become cheaper to release 20-30 missiles to a hurricane, for a thousand conditional rubles. And faster and safer.

    Shooting further than 25 km makes sense only with a guided projectile. GPS / Glonass should be forgotten in a big war. This is pampering against the barmaley, nothing more. That is, only super-expensive seeker radar / IR remains.
    The entire West amicably loves operational missile systems. And frantically trying to compensate for this with barrel artillery. And it does it very expensively.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 24 August 2020 18: 07 New
    -1
    Not a correct rating. Where are all the most progressive weapons from the United States, and then South Africa surpassed American exclusivity? It just can't be.
    The United States is developing an artillery weapon capable of firing at a distance of more than 1600 kilometers, writes the Global Times.

    The publication cites a statement by US Secretary of the Army Mark Esper, who last week announced the development of a "super gun" capable of hitting targets at a distance of 1000 miles (about 1600 kilometers).

    Now that's right, one shot can pierce space
  • loha
    loha 24 August 2020 19: 19 New
    0
    strange article for VO
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 25 August 2020 09: 14 New
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    Interestingly, what kind of accuracy and accuracy can we talk about when shooting at a distance of 30 km? And if the German is worse than the others in accuracy, what classics can we talk about?
  • tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 25 August 2020 19: 59 New
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    And I can kill with a word. The distance does not matter.
  • nnz226
    nnz226 25 August 2020 22: 20 New
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    As V. Pikul said in one of his historical miniatures: "Russian artillery has always been the best artillery in the world."