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Is Navalny being turned into a "sacred victim"?

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On the morning of August 20, 2020, all Russian media flew around news: Alexei Navalny was hospitalized. The most famous Russian "extra-parliamentary oppositionist" is poisoned. But is this really so and who could be behind the attempt to poison Navalny?


Stories with unexplained poisoning, abductions and other sad events in the life of politicians have happened in the post-Soviet space before. So, in 2004, the now half-forgotten Ivan Rybkin suddenly disappeared: later he was found in Kiev, and the politician's entourage announced that he had been drugged and kidnapped. In September of the same 2004, a strange story happened to the presidential candidate of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko: he was supposedly poisoned during dinner.

However, for 15 years, the investigation has not been able to come to an unambiguous verdict on the poisoning of the presidential candidate. In July 2019, Ukraine's chief military prosecutor Anatoly Matios said there was no evidence of Yushchenko's poisoning. You can also recall the mysterious story of the poisoning of defector Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Great Britain.

Actually, there are several versions regarding the poisoning of Alexei Navalny. The first is that the oppositionist “got himself poisoned”, as it may be beneficial to him - just think, he will stay in the hospital, but what a PR, especially if you take into account that recently they began to forget about Navalny. By the way, the law enforcement agencies have already expressed a similar point of view: Aleksey could have taken something or drink himself, after which he was poisoned. Perhaps this is also an accidental, household poisoning.

The second version is that Alexei Navalny was deliberately poisoned by his opponents. But here it is worth thinking about who can be named among these opponents, moreover, capable of such actions. If we were talking about the special services, then, most likely, they would have already talked about the date of the funeral, and the special services now have a lot of other opportunities to eliminate any uncomfortable person.

In the current political situation, Navalny does not pose any real threat to the current government and even to its individual representatives. Moreover, his many years of "opposition" activity is accompanied by a fair amount of hype, but no serious consequences for him personally did not come. This only suggests that Navalny is actually indifferent to the authorities, if not beneficial. For example, it draws the attention of opposition-minded citizens, shifts the focus of attention from the real shortcomings of the existing socio-economic system to private and, in general, meaningless nuances like the cost of the ex-prime minister's sneakers or the height of the fence at the dacha of some top manager of a state corporation.

The third version, the most interesting, implies that Navalny could have been deliberately poisoned by his patrons or supporters. There are several reasons for this. First, Alexey worked his way out and is no longer needed, but, as they say, "he knew too much."


In this frame, an ambulance takes Navalny to the hospital.

The second is that the “poisoned Navalny” is better than the “healthy Navalny”, since it is possible to mold another “sacred victim” from him to expose the cruel “Putin regime”. After all, the society began to forget about Boris Nemtsov, who was shot under strange circumstances.

Against the background of the events in Belarus, the “Putin regime” began to look less and less “bloody” and more and more adequate in the eyes of many people, not only in Russia, but also in the West. In this regard, in order to preserve the created image of an evil dictator, someone urgently needed to organize another “bloody crime of the regime”.

Finally, the poisoning, especially so inept, may be the result of the actions of some persons interested in the redistribution of financial flows within the Russian extra-parliamentary opposition.

However, all three versions do not negate the fact that 44-year-old Alexei Navalny could simply become ill due to some health problems. Whether he is an oppositionist or not, but a living person, and like all living people, can suffer from cardiovascular diseases, be allergic to any food or substance, and can be poisoned by anything. And the coronavirus infection has not yet been defeated.

And this is especially interesting:

Is Navalny being turned into a "sacred victim"?


And half an hour before the retweet, it was announced that Navalny was in a coma ...
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 20 August 2020 14: 51 New
    0
    Much ado about nothing. Downed pilot.
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 20 August 2020 15: 00 New
      +1
      Well if so. But, for some reason, it seems to me that this sacred sacrifice is directed towards the rejection of the SP-2. Now all the people with bright faces and the countries that are the beacons of democracy will screech, and they will push through the next sanctions like the Magnitsky case and MN-17. And the evidence ... but who needs it among unwary friends.
      The same Nemtsov - no one remembered about him, and then they depicted a cult figure of the opposition from him.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 20 August 2020 15: 16 New
        37
        Come on. Sanctions, SP2 ... We have been living in this regime for several years already. The country loses ten such SP2 per year through carelessness, theft, and lack of skill. One must be able to use internal resources and then no sanctions are terrible.
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 20 August 2020 15: 19 New
          -8
          You can't go far on internal resources. For it is impossible in all areas to be in the first place, exploiting only the internal market. Even the USSR did not pull the simultaneous development of both industrial production and the consumer sector. And now, all the more, we will not be able to pull it off because the science-intensive sectors were very much ruined in due time.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 20 August 2020 15: 33 New
            10
            Quote: RUnnm
            For it is impossible in all spheres to be in the first place, exploiting only the internal market.

            Have to. Russia has no other way. Trample ...
            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 20 August 2020 15: 56 New
              11
              Words and appeals will not help the cause, but we have recently only made some progress in matters in this direction, but this is still not enough.
              You can't just take, issue a presidential decree and jump forward. This requires education, dynasties of workers in the most important specialties, vocational schools, engineers not in the first generation, scientists, government support for dozens of industries ... you cannot just make up for decades of collapse of entire industries at one point.
              1. 210ox
                210ox 20 August 2020 16: 48 New
                +3
                Can't jerk ?? !! Incidentally, it worked out. In the 30s in the USSR, or in the 80s in China. Can. We need political will.
                1. RUnnm
                  RUnnm 20 August 2020 16: 52 New
                  12
                  The USSR exploded in industrial production, but not in consumer goods. Then people lived by the idea. And how do you force the modern generation, brought up on the cult of money, now, for example, to build a BAM, to raise virgin lands, and so on ...
                  1. 210ox
                    210ox 20 August 2020 19: 55 New
                    0
                    You are at the wrong address. I was born under Khrushchev. With all the ensuing worldview.
                  2. maximaniak
                    maximaniak 21 August 2020 14: 00 New
                    +1
                    I think you can. Youth is characterized by wonderful impulses, work for the idea and the beautiful. And you won't have to force. But it is difficult to organize such an idea, and, of course, the bad example of the drones of millionaire officials greatly spoils the picture ...
                2. EvilLion
                  EvilLion 21 August 2020 08: 21 New
                  +2
                  In the 30s, the USSR could buy a lot because of the Great Depression. China itself could not do absolutely anything, all its "successes" are the result of the transfer of production from the west, now China is beginning to spread rot.

                  And where to jerk? Everything works pretty well anyway.
                  1. 210ox
                    210ox 21 August 2020 18: 07 New
                    0
                    Is that all? The space industry, for example? Production of complex electronics, its components, light industry at a glance.
              2. WIKI
                WIKI 20 August 2020 16: 58 New
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                Quote: RUnnm
                Words and appeals will not help the cause

                Then why all this: "Putin urged not to relax and not wait for miracles in the economy." "Putin called for new steps because of the economic situation in Russia." "Putin called on 'step by step' to open key sectors of the economy." "Putin called for a balanced approach to opening the economy." "Putin called for rid the economy of nepotism and corruption." "Putin called for more sustainable economic growth." "Putin called for the" whitewashing "of the Russian economy."
                1. RUnnm
                  RUnnm 20 August 2020 17: 04 New
                  -6
                  Yes, Putin is to blame for everything and everywhere, of course. We ourselves are looking for how not to pay taxes on our companies - Putin is to blame, he parks in playgrounds - Putin, we are looking for a job where you can grab a piece of the budget - Putin, but Putin is the only one to blame, but we ourselves are all white and fluffy
                  I am not saying in any way that there are no huge questions for Putin, but I am saying that it is necessary to change ourselves.
                  1. WIKI
                    WIKI 20 August 2020 17: 17 New
                    +8
                    What are you talking about now? I gave you an example that your statement, "Words and appeals will not help the cause," does not find confirmation in real life. GDP does just the opposite.
                    1. RUnnm
                      RUnnm 20 August 2020 17: 22 New
                      -4
                      I will repeat myself. Questions, first of all, should be asked to ourselves. For it is sooooo convenient to blame others for all problems.
                      1. WIKI
                        WIKI 20 August 2020 17: 29 New
                        +7
                        If you do not understand the meaning of my comments, then further dialogue is meaningless.
                      2. RUnnm
                        RUnnm 20 August 2020 17: 44 New
                        -8
                        Yes, you are a demagogue, nothing more. The meaning of your words is banal, superficial and nothing more - the authorities are to blame, and I am the victim here.
                        The poorest position in life is when you take responsibility off yourself and shift it onto others. At least this is unworthy of a man.
                        If you said - what am I ***, that I once voted for Putin, I live honestly, I do not break the law, I am not afraid to defend my rights, I am not faint-hearted, etc. - then you could be understood. And so .... one whining and a cowardly position.
                      3. WIKI
                        WIKI 20 August 2020 18: 00 New
                        +8
                        Do you even hear yourself?
                        Quote: RUnnm
                        The meaning of your words is banal, superficial and nothing more - the authorities are to blame, and I am the victim here.

                        How and in what place do you interpret your statement to my comments? And there is no need, young man, to read morality to me.
                      4. RUnnm
                        RUnnm 20 August 2020 18: 03 New
                        -11
                        And yet, the men, saying goodbye, leave ...
                      5. WIKI
                        WIKI 20 August 2020 18: 05 New
                        +3
                        Kindergarten, and nothing more.
                      6. Dangerous
                        Dangerous 20 August 2020 22: 00 New
                        +5
                        So your opponent is right. You were the first to say that appeals will not help the cause, while your comrade quoted a number of quotes from our president with appeals. What did you start to react in the wrong direction?
                      7. EvilLion
                        EvilLion 21 August 2020 08: 25 New
                        +1
                        Call for a minute, the rest of the time, according to your logic, Putin does nothing.
                      8. Dangerous
                        Dangerous 21 August 2020 12: 29 New
                        +1
                        There is a universal formula for how tasks should be set: it must be clearly formulated, determined in terms of time and time, and must be measurable. The perpetrators of the disruption are suspended or punished. Otherwise it makes sense to call on something if you don't do it later?
              3. Ka-52
                Ka-52 21 August 2020 05: 07 New
                +1
                The poorest position in life is when you take responsibility off yourself and shift it onto others.

                you encroached on sacred laughing they just threw a big kaku into the worldview and conceit of a significant part of the local public. After all, it is fashionable here, wiping snot on the curtain, to blame the hostess for burnt pies
              4. NordUral
                NordUral 21 August 2020 08: 32 New
                0
                Why are you so worried, RUnnm, for the unfortunate "our" government and the poor president, whom we still strive to offend falsely, but do not notice the log in our own eye?
                I voted in 2018 for Grudinin, and this summer - against the amendments to the constitution, although most of the amendments did not cause me any objections, only a few. For example, a zeroing amendment.
                And so .... one whining and a cowardly position.

                You have an interesting position, my friend, criticism of the shameful acts of the authorities (in my opinion, illegal since 1991) - cowardly whining, not just criticism.
                In my opinion, so a large part of the actions of this "our" government in a normal legal state would be qualified as crimes of the state.
      2. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 21 August 2020 11: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: RUnnm
        Yes, Putin is to blame for everything and everywhere, of course


        Folk proverb: Tackled the tug, do not say that "like a galley slave ..."
        In the Russian Federation, the economy has already stagnated at 1%, so by raising the VAT to 20% (!) In 2019 they caught it.

        We read China:
        The Chinese government has decided to reduce the VAT rate (from 16 to 13%) to make services and goods more accessible to the population. The PRC government is doing everything for the people, despite the potential difficulties for the country's economy

        Source: https://visasam.ru/emigration/economy/nds-v-kitae.html
        Still don't understand that Putin's rule is anti-popular?
        When will you start thinking?
  2. Lynx-z
    Lynx-z 20 August 2020 17: 06 New
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    a recipe like "issue a presidential decree" was pretty amusing) there must be the words: "There is no time for swinging" .. and then everything will surely start))) Calm down .. You live in a capitalist (and very poor) society .. where in the pursuit of personal profit will destroy everything ... both factories and the country ...
  3. The black
    The black 20 August 2020 18: 45 New
    -1
    It is simply not profitable for any of the official authorities to blame Navalny so clearly, why the extra fuss? But the "pravdoruba" released into circulation, whom the overwhelming number of the population perceives exclusively as a scumbag and a clown on the maintenance of the State Department, it is very profitable to overwhelm his "accomplices" in opposition business or housewives in order to raise a squeal
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 21 August 2020 07: 30 New
      +1
      Since Mr. Navalny has long occupied his niche as a court oppositionist, an idol of immature minds, I think that unbalancing his image is not beneficial to anyone. I, on the basis of facts obtained from the Internet, tend to the version of household poisoning. It is known that Mr. Navalny has been on depressants in recent months. Further, it is very likely that Mr. Navalny visited the city of Tomsk to communicate with like-minded people. Such meetings usually end with a banquet with all that it implies. It is known that the drug oxybutyrate, which is believed to be the cause of poisoning, is taken in particular to avoid the consequences of yesterday. But at the same time there are a lot of contraindications for the joint use of oxybutyrate with other drugs, especially antidepressants. Well, I got poisoned. The rest is all speculation.
      1. vic02
        vic02 21 August 2020 10: 50 New
        +2
        I think that bringing his image out of balance is not beneficial to anyone
        Is it? Putin's rating goes up and breaks records, or the events in Belarus did not show that "stability" is really worth it, based on the same approaches as ours, or Nikolai Platoshkin really prepared the use of weapons, or why would Furgala and exactly remember the events 90s, and with the rejection of an open court? Think about it.
    2. vic02
      vic02 21 August 2020 10: 34 New
      +3
      But the "Pravdoruba" released in circulation, whom the overwhelming majority of the population perceives exclusively as a bastard and a clown, supported by the State Department
      You can prove that the "overwhelming number of the population" thinks this way, or is an elementary analysis of events your weak point?
      it is very profitable to overwhelm his "accomplices" in oppositional business or housewives in order to raise a squeal
      Directly smelled of terry Kremlin propaganda. Can you justify the benefits now?
  4. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 21 August 2020 06: 30 New
    +2
    Quote: RUnnm
    Words and appeals will not help the cause, but we have recently only made some progress in matters in this direction, but this is still not enough.
    You can't just take, issue a presidential decree and jump forward. This requires education, dynasties of workers in the most important specialties, vocational schools, engineers not in the first generation, scientists, government support for dozens of industries ... you cannot just make up for decades of collapse of entire industries at one point.

    Well, about education, and working specialties ..
    The state "does everything" to eradicate these "vestiges"
    You need to work hard to prove the opposite
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 21 August 2020 10: 14 New
      +2
      State? Are you going to these specialties yourself? Do you send your children to vocational schools to be welders or painters?
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 21 August 2020 11: 57 New
        0
        I'll tell you this: in the city where I live, and in the region, at some point there was no vocational school where it was possible to acquire the specialties you named. Perhaps, in recent times, something has changed, I will not lie
        But it was, exactly
        But yes: all sorts of lice and others, such as educational institutions, stamping like lawyers / economists ,,, there was darkness
        True, then, they cleaned up a little
  • 210ox
    210ox 20 August 2020 15: 34 New
    0
    But all the more so not to go far hoping for gas and other wires, raw materials.
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 20 August 2020 16: 00 New
      -6
      Equally, it is foolish to refuse to realize the existing advantages.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 21 August 2020 08: 37 New
      -1
      It depends on who rides on all this stuff, Dmitry. The people (we) are certainly in flight.
  • meandr51
    meandr51 20 August 2020 16: 14 New
    -11
    The DPRK lives quietly, and is better than many of its neighbors, despite the sanctions and negative economic and geographical conditions. It is necessary to unite the CIS markets and create our own civilization. This is a goal worthy of a great nation.
    1. Sahalinets
      Sahalinets 20 August 2020 16: 22 New
      +9
      DPRK lives better than many neighbors? Name at least ONE such neighbor!
      If anything, I was there.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 21 August 2020 10: 16 New
      0
      The DPRK lives very poorly, because they do not have energy resources, and the United States gives in the teeth to anyone whose North Korea, which is industrially quite developed and capable of offering goods to the world market, is trying to acquire them.
  • irbis0373
    irbis0373 20 August 2020 18: 09 New
    +4
    Quote: RUnnm
    Even the USSR did not pull the simultaneous development of both industrial production and the consumer sector.

    But as for me you are wrong. Until Gorbachev came to the USSR and ruined the country, it was certainly not great, but more or less not bad. At least the people lived, not survived.
  • Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 20 August 2020 22: 59 New
    0
    Come on, they'll turn off the Internet, YouTube, stop buying oil and gas, stop Nord Stream. Processors for computers, video cards, smartphones there are state-of-the-art technologies and you think it's a game, you think it's a game !!!
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 21 August 2020 10: 19 New
      +1
      Yes, yes, I'll see how oil stops buying. That is why its consumption in the world is only growing. As for home computers, their supply can be difficult, but not blocked, is too common a thing. Therefore, the United States does not particularly twitch in this regard, there is no need to interfere with Intel, AMD and nVidia from making money.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 20 August 2020 15: 25 New
    -2
    Quote: RUnnm
    The same Nemtsov - no one remembered him anymore, and then he was depicted as a cult figure of the opposition

    The cult of opposition must be constantly maintained, just like a drug addict and alcohol in the blood of an alcoholic.
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 21 August 2020 12: 46 New
      -1
      good
      Keep in good shape!
      What our foreign policy lacks!
      An amazing thing: internally, it turns out great, alas))
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 20 August 2020 16: 28 New
    +1
    The same Nemtsov - no one remembered him anymore, and then he was depicted as a cult figure of the opposition
    I remember Nemtsov. I remember I traveled a lot in Russia, there were only 2 cities that developed rapidly, this is Moscow with Luzhkov and Novgorod with Nemtsov, the rest were falling apart
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 20 August 2020 16: 35 New
      -2
      Well, well .... I'm Salekhard, and Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, and Yekaterinburg? Yes, Khanty-Mansiysk in those years could have a head start on Moscow in terms of comfort, standard of living, security, infrastructure development, etc.
      1. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 20 August 2020 17: 22 New
        +5
        Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk began to develop only in recent years, when oil money began to flow. And even then, no doubt, we have a lot of dissatisfied people. And after the feds robbed Sakhalin, everything went quiet.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 20 August 2020 16: 50 New
      +4
      About N. Novgorod in the 90s ?? !! Gloom.
    3. dauria
      dauria 21 August 2020 00: 39 New
      +2
      and Novgorod with Nemtsov,


      Hmm .... Tell the residents of Kiselikha and the vicinity of the Kerzhensky Reserve. And at the same time celebrate the commemoration at the factories. He did not turn around for long with us. He substituted a friend of Klimentiev under the article, whom he "cut" and left for Moscow for a promotion. Yes, a piece of out-of-order stuck in the throat.
    4. Ka-52
      Ka-52 21 August 2020 06: 57 New
      0
      Novgorod with Nemtsov, the rest were falling apart

      Novgorod developed rather in spite of Nemtsov, and not thanks to ...
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 August 2020 13: 05 New
      -1
      Quote: imobile2008
      I remember I traveled a lot in Russia, there were only 2 cities that developed rapidly, this is Moscow with Luzhkov and Novgorod with Nemtsov, the rest were falling apart

      I remember how I "bombed" the Nizhny Novgorod shipyards, especially the Navashinsky shipyard.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 20 August 2020 15: 03 New
    -2
    Anecdote almost to the topic:
    Two plump snakes crawl out of the bar.
    One asks the other:
    “Listen, you don’t remember if I’m poisonous or not?
    - Of course, poisonous! You're a cobra !!!
    - Well, that's it, I'm finished ... I bit my tongue ...
    laughing
    Maybe he also bought it for himself, but he poisoned himself?)))
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 20 August 2020 15: 12 New
      -2
      As the saying goes: "The revolution devours its children!"
      1. figwam
        figwam 20 August 2020 15: 42 New
        -2
        Apparently it's time to replace it, so it was removed as waste material.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 20 August 2020 21: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: SRC P-15
        As the saying goes: "The revolution devours its children!"

        The oppositionists themselves are the first who want to bury him.
        1. Clear
          Clear 20 August 2020 22: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: SRC P-15
          As the saying goes: "The revolution devours its children!"

          The oppositionists themselves are the first who want to bury him.

          Yes, I'm talking about it too yes All day long, the entire yellow liberal press, Venediktov and company ... shout that Navalny killed! Yes, he is alive.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 20 August 2020 15: 16 New
      17
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Maybe he also bought himself, but with his poison and poisoned himself?

      It's not funny here. And who did Navalny poison with his poison, can you tell me? Or do you think his investigations are fakes? Then why is he not imprisoned for slander and publication of defamatory data about "decent people", and the millions of palaces shown on the rollers are nursing homes? I doubt it - not a single palace has burned down, and hospices and hostels (I cannot name the shacks where there were no fire exits and fire extinguishing systems otherwise) in Russia burn regularly.
      In our case, Navalny's poisoning is no more relevant than the hangover state of some drunkard stop until the circumstances are fully clarified and the causes of the poisoning are established (even the doctors are still silent).
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 20 August 2020 15: 31 New
        -18
        Quote: ROSS 42
        It's not funny here. And who did Navalny poison with his poison, can you tell me? Or do you think his investigations are fakes?

        And when Navalny began his "exposing" activity, did he not think that it could end badly?
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 20 August 2020 15: 36 New
          11
          Quote: SRC P-15
          And when Navalny began his "exposing" activity, did he not think that it could end badly?

          And the one who argued that he would not change the constitution and would not nominate himself for a new term, knows exactly how and how the period of his rule will end? It's time to remember:
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 20 August 2020 15: 44 New
            -6
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And the one who argued that he would not change the constitution and would not nominate himself for a new term, knows exactly how and how the period of his rule will end?

            Let's first live until 2024 and find out if Putin will run for president. The fact that his term of office was reset does not mean that he will continue to rule. Although ... he may and will rule, but in the shadows! I so want to live until these elections ...
        2. snake
          snake 20 August 2020 17: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: SRC P-15
          And when Navalny began his "exposing" activity, did he not think that it could end badly?

          That is, in your opinion: sit still, watch the "servants of the people" bathe in gold and be silent in a rag, because criticizing the authorities is dangerous to health? A hut on the edge - I don't know anything ...
          1. Fibrizio
            Fibrizio 21 August 2020 11: 47 New
            +3
            By the way, this is the opinion of a fairly large part of the audience of this site. This could be seen on the latest news from the Republic of Belarus. What a message. The elections were rigged by the current government. And what? They are power, so it's legal. Who is against - the 5th column. We will live badly, but they give out handouts (social services), there is no war tongue there will be stability, a new president = 90 years or a war. LGBT people will also be legalized.wassat

            So whoever sits not exactly loosens the bonds and foundations, and generally sold out to the State Department)))
            1. snake
              snake 21 August 2020 12: 22 New
              -2
              Quote: Fibrizio
              By the way, this is the opinion of a fairly large part of the audience of this site.

              Many elderly people. They are naturally more conservative. Passionarity spills out with the sand ...
        3. mark2
          mark2 20 August 2020 21: 09 New
          -1
          They don't think at all. Graduates of philological faculties of Moscow State University, graduates of the HSE do not know how to think. They are creative and ambitious. But they don't know how to do anything and think too. Ours, and indeed any opposition in the post-Soviet space, is sure that political struggle is such a game. Shouted at the rally and you were brought to the throne. More often it turns out that the screamers remain screamers and are forgotten as soon as they are carried forward with their feet. I'm talking about Novodvorskaya, about Nemtsov and some more. Already forgot the name. And how they thundered ...
          And these children are also offended when they, who are smashing shop windows, running up on law enforcement officials, start beating them with their muzzles on the asphalt.
          They do not even understand that they do not give power, they take power. And of those who try to take this power, only one remains. the rest are tolerated one way or another.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 August 2020 15: 33 New
        -11
        Quote: ROSS 42
        In our case, Navalny's poisoning is no more relevant than the hangover state of some drunkard

        The mushroom season has begun, I ate the wrong fungi. Maybe a vodka sidekick with chicken droppings was sent, or maybe the refrigerator does not work well, the cheese is moldy. And doctors do not recommend drinking air from the tap. He will recover still young. I am not gloating, but he drank a lot of blood from Dimon and Miller, and he did not bypass Lena Malysheva.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 20 August 2020 16: 21 New
          +7
          Quote: tihonmarine
          and he drank a lot of blood from Dimon and Miller, and did not go around Lena Malysheva.

          It's just that the above-listed ones had a foulbrood. bully
          According to the article, a variant of the last Chinese warning is possible. request
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 20 August 2020 17: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            It's just that the above-listed ones had a foulbrood.

            I don’t know and I don’t want to argue. But if these opponents were silent, then there is no smoke without fire.
      3. Kart
        Kart 20 August 2020 15: 41 New
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Or do you think his investigations are fakes? Then why is he not imprisoned for slander and publication of defamatory data about "decent people", and the millions of palaces shown on the rollers are nursing homes?

        Because there is no power in general, like the state in general. It is only in the minds of maydanut teenagers that the people are against the government, and both are united.
        Within the "government" there are different groups, sometimes with different interests.
        And such a bulk, speaking on behalf of and on behalf of such a group against another group, may not be touched.
      4. meandr51
        meandr51 20 August 2020 16: 16 New
        0
        What can they say? Any statement can be directed against them. Silence is gold.
    3. Asad
      Asad 20 August 2020 15: 40 New
      13
      In which edition did Navalny poison you personally?
    4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 20 August 2020 16: 32 New
      -4
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Maybe he also bought himself, but with his poison and poisoned himself?

      At Navalny, on the 23rd, a court hearing is scheduled in the case of insulting veterans.
      Lay down to save.
      1. Whiteidol
        Whiteidol 20 August 2020 22: 20 New
        +2
        It's been a long time since I was laughing out loud))) ... the last phrase is just hell ...
  • Evdokim
    Evdokim 20 August 2020 15: 14 New
    -7
    Quote: 210ox
    Downed pilot.

    So at once and coma. Klistir three-bucket, and will come to life, and run, and fly !!!!! laughing
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 20 August 2020 15: 37 New
    +4
    Not the Kremlin and not the CIA, but rather one of the high-ranking ill-wishers.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 20 August 2020 15: 44 New
      +3
      How can I say. Who benefits from? Mkdvedev or Usmanov? They don't give a damn about this guy. But his entourage can get a dividend from this.
      1. Asad
        Asad 20 August 2020 16: 09 New
        11
        It would not give a damn about Usmanov, Zolotov would not be refuted!
  • Vend
    Vend 20 August 2020 16: 30 New
    -8
    Quote: 210ox
    Much ado about nothing. Downed pilot.

    Exactly, but he is not the last, the next will be Tikhanovskaya.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 20 August 2020 18: 08 New
    -3
    Quote: 210ox
    Much ado about nothing. Downed pilot.

    Or maybe not downed at all .. Maybe they are preparing him for the presidency?
  • Same lech
    Same lech 20 August 2020 14: 52 New
    +2
    Well, that's it ... I sense they are preparing new sanctions for Russia, similar to the Magnitsky case.
    I wonder who in his entourage became his executioner.
    And the moment was chosen well together with the events in Belarus ... the hand of an experienced director is felt.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 20 August 2020 16: 47 New
      -5
      Quote: The same Lech
      I wonder who in his entourage became his executioner.

      Yes, it's clear who. The conspirators Boshirov and Petrov. "Newbie" was poured into tea.
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 20 August 2020 21: 26 New
      -5
      Quote: The same Lech
      Well, that's it ... I sense they are preparing new sanctions for Russia, similar to the Magnitsky case.
      I wonder who in his entourage became his executioner.
      And the moment was chosen well together with the events in Belarus ... the hand of an experienced director is felt.

      yes It looks like it is. Or to distract from the events in Belarus. All this happened very well in time. How, incidentally, will be connected with the events in Belarus. There can be many versions. If there was a poisoning, it is a duty of honor for specialists to find who and how. They will understand, there is no need to guess. Moreover, you need to figure it out. So far, there is little information to predict something specifically.
      p / sLiked Solovyov's reaction live on his Internet channel. They seem to be implacable enemies. But adults do not scoff at such things. I saw a very decent reaction.
      1. Harry.km
        Harry.km 21 August 2020 08: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Observer2014
        If there was poisoning, it is a duty of honor for specialists to find who and how.

        Are you kidding me? If it was not self-poisoning, then no one, no one, will ever find. Who killed Zakharchenko?
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 20 August 2020 14: 53 New
    +4
    Well, I don't know, the point is to guess. Nemtsov, too, fell into the scrap long ago, but for some reason he was shot ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 August 2020 15: 42 New
      -3
      Quote: Sahalinets
      Nemtsov, too, fell into the scrap long ago, but for some reason he was shot ...

      But you never know who and how many were shot, even to this day they shoot in the states, and nothing, the news was reported and forgotten. But if this is an African American, then immediately Maidan.
    2. meandr51
      meandr51 20 August 2020 16: 20 New
      0
      As if only his ... It can be dangerous to indulge in dark deeds. The bandits are shooting. Special services are working thinner. Heart attack, accidental traffic accident, convulsions when swimming ...
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 August 2020 14: 54 New
    -3
    Is Navalny being turned into a "sacred victim"?
    For God's sake. Borya Nemtsov was already here and we will bury this and we will not care. The Liberast is corrupt!
    1. Eldorado
      Eldorado 20 August 2020 15: 11 New
      -7
      Let the earth be glassy to him!
    2. Varyag71
      Varyag71 20 August 2020 15: 31 New
      -6
      Are you talking about Putin and his entourage?
      1. Kart
        Kart 20 August 2020 15: 55 New
        -3
        No, this is about the president of the country in which you live. About Ukraine.
        1. Varyag71
          Varyag71 20 August 2020 16: 05 New
          +9
          Are you a wang? laughing
          I live in Voronezh. And the Russian president himself called himself a liberal. We even have a LDPR party.
          1. Quadro
            Quadro 20 August 2020 17: 16 New
            -4
            Quote: Varyag71
            Are you a wang? laughing
            I live in Voronezh. And the Russian president himself called himself a liberal. We even have a LDPR party.

            And also the daughter of an officer and not everything is so simple.
            1. The comment was deleted.
            2. Varyag71
              Varyag71 21 August 2020 07: 30 New
              -1
              I will change my training manual. The same nonsense is coming from you. You are boring, but narrow-minded.
          2. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 20 August 2020 17: 39 New
            -2
            Quote: Varyag71
            And the Russian president himself called himself a liberal. We even have a LDPR party.
            fool You seem to have been in a coma for 5 years. belay Putin has already said: "Liberalism has outlived its usefulness" Change your shoes in flight ...
            1. Varyag71
              Varyag71 21 August 2020 07: 29 New
              0
              Do not believe everything Putin says. And I haven't watched TV for a long time.
              1. Mavrikiy
                Mavrikiy 21 August 2020 08: 35 New
                0
                Quote: Varyag71
                And the Russian president himself called himself a liberal.

                Quote: Varyag71
                Do not believe everything Putin says.

                Do you have a split personality? fool How can I trust you? recourse Or did you wrap the fish here?
                1. Varyag71
                  Varyag71 21 August 2020 09: 21 New
                  -1
                  Clear. Here she is, one of the victims of the exam. It was written for the gifted ... to believe everything ...
                  1. Mavrikiy
                    Mavrikiy 21 August 2020 09: 32 New
                    0
                    Quote: Varyag71
                    Clear. Here she is, one of the victims of the exam. It was written for the gifted ... to believe everything ...

                    And what to believe you will indicate ... understandable. All the same, I wrapped the fish. So, an excellent student of the Unified State Exam, go to school, retake Logic for grade 5. crying
                    1. Varyag71
                      Varyag71 21 August 2020 09: 45 New
                      -1
                      I realized that you are an excellent student of the Unified State Exam, a patriot of the EP and VVP. The usual set of cheers for a patriot. It is you who always have big problems with logic, as well as with conscience.
                      1. Mavrikiy
                        Mavrikiy 21 August 2020 10: 53 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Varyag71
                        I understood,

                        You love yourself too much and flatter yourself. For the capercaillie not only cannot understand something, but also hear what they say. foolConscientious, you are our fifth grader.
                      2. Varyag71
                        Varyag71 21 August 2020 11: 40 New
                        -4
                        Yes, perish already, stuck. Your nonsense to read no desire.
                      3. Mavrikiy
                        Mavrikiy 21 August 2020 11: 43 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Varyag71
                        Yes, perish already, stuck. Your nonsense to read no desire.

                        Do not be rude, God will punish, or GDP, which is the same thing. Ask the basket.
      2. Kart
        Kart 21 August 2020 09: 16 New
        -1
        Wang you.
        You broadcast about Putin under the comment about Nemtsov.
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 20 August 2020 16: 23 New
    +9
    Are you for the Rothenbergs and Sechins, for the villas and yachts and offshore companies of Putin's oligarchs? You're a Patriot! laughing
    1. Kart
      Kart 21 August 2020 09: 22 New
      0
      I do not care. I have not personally seen any yachts or offshore companies.
      Only people like you jump incessantly, sending pictures to each other.
      And to believe your lovers of ollesha, truth and democracy - you have to go crazy, or not have it at all.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 20 August 2020 14: 55 New
    +2
    Don't need a violinist? With Fritz it is clear, I could not account for the babos for the Union of Right Forces, they used it in full. And this case looks like a circus with horses to attract attention. Will the doctors tell the diagnosis? Medical secrecy will not allow. We are waiting for inside information.
    1. figwam
      figwam 20 August 2020 15: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Balu
      A violinist is not needed?

      Not needed...
      1. depressant
        depressant 20 August 2020 16: 58 New
        +1
        Well, the doctors have already spoken out. A psychodysleptic was found in Navalny. Either he himself did not calculate the dose, or his environment did not calculate.
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 20 August 2020 17: 55 New
          0
          Sodium oxybutyrate (what was discovered) is said to have a salty taste. I felt drawn to the salty one ... vomited ... my head was spinning ... the symptoms of the "two-strip test" are evident ...
          1. depressant
            depressant 20 August 2020 18: 50 New
            +4
            Colleague, you will not believe, but it was with such stipulations that I went to the hospital on March 12 for 5 days. Despite the fact that I do not drink alcohol at all - never, it’s even funny to talk about drugs in my attitude, and I am extremely moderate in my diet. Just like that, out of the blue. Our food ... Anything can be there.
            1. dzvero
              dzvero 20 August 2020 21: 21 New
              +1
              Our food ... Anything can be there.

              Absolutely right. As the people say - if you've ever eaten sausages, then you've eaten everything. Stay healthy! hi
  • rusich
    rusich 20 August 2020 14: 59 New
    -1
    Such a g .... does not sink. laughing The sacrifice won't work
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 August 2020 15: 46 New
      -1
      Quote: rusich
      .. does not sink. The sacrifice won't work

      We have it, but in the west, the stronger the smell, the longer it drowns.
      1. depressant
        depressant 20 August 2020 17: 00 New
        -1
        Nemtsov, as a sacred victim, fell into decay.
      2. snake
        snake 20 August 2020 17: 18 New
        -3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        We have that yes

        In Estonia?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 20 August 2020 15: 01 New
    +1
    Straight, straight, all the media and everyone, everyone, interesno ???
    Do not tell my horseshoes.
    1. depressant
      depressant 20 August 2020 17: 11 New
      +2
      The colleague is, of course, interesting. I didn't know. Looked at the news: for sure! Now in the media, the bubbling of substances is provided for a month, or even more. Until everyone pleads with indignation. Obviously, the duration of the accidental pain will be determined by the interested parties.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 August 2020 17: 25 New
        +1
        August, however, someone could decide that there are not enough "interesting" events ... here is a storm for their glass! Although it is ... not very, it is still God's. We wish no one evil.
        1. depressant
          depressant 20 August 2020 17: 30 New
          +1
          Yes))) Life is interesting with a variety of species, all kinds are needed. So that the food chain is not interrupted. The Red Book was not invented for nothing)))
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 August 2020 17: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: depressant
            The Red Book was not invented for nothing)))

            Just this book, a statement of a person's narcissism or stupidity. There is nothing superfluous in nature, everything is in its place ... it was, until a person imagined himself not knowing who!
            A lot, if not all, will come back to haunt us and .... if only it would not be the final ay.
  • BIABIA
    BIABIA 20 August 2020 15: 01 New
    +2
    They began to forget him on the sly. Got drunk with grief, got sick. Unexpected PR)
    1. HAM
      HAM 20 August 2020 15: 34 New
      +1
      In the village of Kaftanchikovo, they add carbide to the moonshine, for the fortress ....... Lyokha turned out to be not so strong ...
      1. Kart
        Kart 20 August 2020 15: 54 New
        -5
        A story of kindness (based on a famous anecdote).
        Once our Oleshenka was sitting at home at the table. Sits, and so thoughtfully spreads artificial red caviar on margarine with a sharp knife.
        Then the door opens, and a crowd of onizhedi runs in. They sat around Olyosha, chirping joyfully, looking into his face. And he smears his caviar, but he looks at the onizhedei. He looked, looked, but without saying anything, he stuffed a sandwich into his mouth, smiled a kind smile, and went out.
        Here. And he could have slashed.
        Big soul man.
        Further, only the rumor of the people. Either he choked on this sandwich, his conscience tortured him, or the children secretly spat there ... Nobody knows.
        1. depressant
          depressant 20 August 2020 17: 13 New
          0
          Vot liked it: "I could have slashed."
          ))))
      2. Asad
        Asad 20 August 2020 16: 12 New
        0
        Carbide is added to the mash.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 August 2020 17: 22 New
        0
        Quote: HAM
        In the village of Kaftanchikovo, they add carbide to the moonshine, for the fortress ..

        In Lithuania, copper sulfate was added, in Georgia, chicken manure was added to chacha, and in Ukraine, tobacco was added to vodka. There is a lot of need for inventions, you need to drink only of your own production.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 August 2020 15: 01 New
    +4
    I will now speak about Navalny, it does not matter who poisoned him and how, or it just became bad for his health ...

    Lech, health to you and many years of life !!! drinks

    I am sooo critical EVERY Thursday at 20-00 I watch his program ... what can I say ...

    1. If he was lying in his statements completely - he would have been imprisoned a long time ago according to the laws of the Russian Federation !!! good
    In the best case - only in the last six months that I watch his programs - and at least a third was a lie - just by court (if I were on the side of Navalny's vorogov) - but he would have sat down for 25 years "in total" and more a billion or two Russian rubles - the same in court - for libel - Navalny would owe me bully

    2. Since it is broadcasting, it means "not everything is so smooth in the Danish kingdom" negative how do they want to bring us that on VO?

    3. However ... As long as I don't watch it - after all, he speaks the truth - even if it increases the emphasis on some points ... which means ... someone needs it ... recourse

    the question is - to whom ?! hi
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 20 August 2020 15: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      I am sooo critical EVERY Thursday at 20-00 I watch his program ... what can I say ...

      That is why the corona flew off the virus! yes
    2. Woodman
      Woodman 20 August 2020 15: 12 New
      -4
      Quote: Crown without virus
      If he had lied in his statements completely, he would have been imprisoned a long time ago under the laws of the Russian Federation !!

      If he had not lied, he would have been jailed much earlier than just "a long time ago." At least if you believe the supporters of the theory of the "bloody regime" ...
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 August 2020 15: 15 New
      -6
      Quote: Crown without virus
      If he was lying in his statements completely - he would have been imprisoned a long time ago according to the laws of the Russian Federation !!!

      we have a drunk who knocked a man down, but this one will definitely get out

      and this shushara, let her rest at least not even sob
    4. RUnnm
      RUnnm 20 August 2020 15: 16 New
      0
      Excuse me, let me guess .... you, apparently, are not aware of the bankruptcy of his garbage dump for withdrawing money, called "The Fifth Season", in which 30+ million just disappeared?
      Or will you name at least one more Russian citizen who was given a suspended sentence two times in a row? And who, being on a double suspended sentence, would constantly break the law and still not go to cut down the forest?
    5. Odysseus
      Odysseus 20 August 2020 15: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: Crown without virus

      1. If he lied in his statements completely - he would have been jailed for a long time already according to the laws of the Russian Federation !!

      Well, you are right, as a young man reason. But who will plant him, he's a monument smile
      For one hundredth of what he says or does any communist, nazbol, nationalist, not that they imprisoned, they just dug somewhere long ago.
      But Navalny is an oppositionist, who needs an oppositionist. Touch him and problems will arise with all the honestly looted and tied to the West assets ... For example, such an ardent patriot as Sveta Medvedeva will not be able to fly on her private plane during the "coronavirus pandemic" between Paris, Milan and Barcelona.
      And this is a national tragedy.
      1. depressant
        depressant 20 August 2020 17: 23 New
        +2
        And therefore Sveta Medvedeva now has a diplomatic passport. Where and when he wants - he will fly. And then hubby hoped for the best.
    6. Kart
      Kart 20 August 2020 15: 29 New
      -9
      Quote: Crown without virus
      Since it is broadcasting, it means that "not everything is so smooth in the Danish kingdom"

      Then you can not write about the ollesha, the task is completed.
      1. snake
        snake 20 August 2020 17: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Carte
        Quote: Crown without virus
        Since it is broadcasting, it means that "not everything is so smooth in the Danish kingdom"

        Then you can not write about the ollesha, the task is completed.

        And you, Stepan, are not a miss. 15 scars for a comment, and now - in a day I have already sprinkled on cigarettes with beer. Well done! Can you relax
        1. Kart
          Kart 21 August 2020 09: 24 New
          -3
          Oops!
          Can you show the statement, truth-teller? Do you like to shake papers on the Internet?
          1. snake
            snake 21 August 2020 10: 25 New
            -1
            Quote: Carte
            Can you show the statement

            Immediately after you demonstrate the report on the "completed task" of the forum member under the nickname Virus-free crown.
    7. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 August 2020 15: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: Crown without virus
      the question is - to whom ?!

      Whom he greatly offended.
    8. meandr51
      meandr51 20 August 2020 16: 31 New
      -5
      Are there kingdoms where "everything is smooth"? Are there countries where there is no corruption? What do you want to prove? Personally, I am for corruption. It does more good than harm. If taxes are removed from everyone and stolen at the very top (as in the United States), this will only make the ordinary people worse. And worse than in the USA. Because they will be taken out of the country. And so a third of the working people spend their unearned within the country, creating jobs. It won't get any better. And worse - for sure.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 20 August 2020 15: 02 New
    +4
    Well, first of all, you need to wish the person health.
    As for the fact that Navalny "does not pose a threat," this is not serious. He is the number one enemy of the government, and an enemy with a "roof in the West" with whom Putin and Co. cannot do anything, because of the threat of much tougher sanctions.
    But the authorities of the Russian Federation did not have the slightest reason to poison him, here I agree with the author. You can remove it or plant it at any time. To poison, and even so that you can live is absurd. The thesis that the West is dumping it is also dubious - it is now very popular, such assets are not scattered.
    There may be 2 versions
    1) You must understand that the power in the Russian Federation is a conglomerate of the most diverse oligarchic-bureaucratic groups. They have a certain hierarchy, but they constantly squabble among themselves for assets and money. Navalny crossed the road to very many of them. So some average general, deputy, or senator could easily organize this poisoning on his own initiative and out of his own stupidity.
    2) It is possible that the people from his entourage themselves organized this (this is in the style of the Maidan opposition), but the severity of Navalny's condition speaks against this version.
    1. Romey
      Romey 20 August 2020 15: 33 New
      14
      As for the enemy of the regime, I believe my colleague, you are mistaken. Let me explain why. Because there are very serious forces behind Lehoy. First of all, these are the Sislibs from the Presidential Administration and the government, representatives of the old oligarchy, like Fridman, and the western partners of the nullified grandfather. If you look closely at his anti-corruption activities, you can see a certain one-sidedness: it strongly affects the friends of the grandfather's cooperators, but somehow strangely bypasses characters like the same Potanin, Gref and other spiders in a bank called the Russian Federation. This already hints, as it were, that Navalny is a kind of instrument in the undercover and street struggle of the clan of liberals against the clans of "siloviks" and friends of the body. But the main role of Lehi is not even that. And here we are very similar to the Belarusians. Grandfather and his camarilla de facto destroyed public policy and completely burned out this clearing. We have no capable patriotic opposition on either the right or the left. As soon as someone appears on the horizon, they either buy him or isolate him by various methods. But there is Lech and his Shatsy, Katz and Albats. And when the grandfather finally gets us, like the Belarusians, father, as an alternative to him, we will have to jump on this rake without options. As a result, the suicidal course will be continued until the complete and final plundering of the territory once called Russia.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 20 August 2020 17: 20 New
        +4
        Quote: romey
        As for the enemy of the regime, I believe my colleague, you are mistaken. Let me explain why. Because there are very serious forces behind Lehoy.

        There is a fundamental difference between Navalny and K and Putin and K. Moving from one to another is a vector change. But the difference is not class ... Marxism taught us to see the socio-economic component everywhere. This is correct, but life is still more complicated. From a socio-economic point of view, the difference between them can be looked for under a microscope - this one is for a market economy, privatization and the withdrawal of capital, and that one is exactly the same.
        There is a complete analogy with Ukraine - what is the social-class difference between Yanukovych and Poroshenko? Yes, none. However, the transition between them is the Rubicon, the "Maidan revolution".
        The bottom line is that the regime in the Russian Federation post-soviet This is the regime of the party-state nomenklatura that betrayed the ideas of socialism in alliance with the underworld. The regime is monstrous and disgusting, but it preserves Soviet assets, from independence to nuclear weapons.
        Navalny and co want to break this umbilical cord and become a part of the "civilized world." By building "real capitalism" with the inevitable transition to the periphery of the capitalist world and the loss of the last Soviet assets. Plus, of course, the redistribution of property.
        And the fact that many of the "sislibs" are helping him is self-evident. They understand, for whom the West (the core of the capital of the world) is behind that money and power.
        Quote: romey
        And here we are very similar to the Belarusians. Grandfather and his camarilla de facto destroyed public policy and completely burned out this clearing. We do not have a viable patriotic opposition on either the right or the left.

        Yes, that's right. Here we are similar to the Belarusians. Only Lukashenka does this out of stupidity, and Putin deliberately, only against the background of Albatsev-Katsev can he be a patriot, presenting this terrible scarecrow as the only alternative.
        And while the prospects are gloomy, the choice between Putin and Navalny (Navalny's wife, etc.) .. Moreover, Navalny acts competently, he started as a "Russian nationalist", and now he pretends to be almost a socialist, scolds the oligarchs, creates trade unions, etc.
        1. depressant
          depressant 20 August 2020 18: 06 New
          +6
          Odysseus, your view is very interesting and unexpected for me. I believed that Navalny's activities to expose Putin's friends are useful primarily to Putin himself. Indeed, the wide awareness of society about the unseemly deeds of friends allows the president to keep them in check, and when they are removed from office, they do not dare to utter a word, because everyone knows everything about them. Seagull was silent, Medvedev was silent. Probably someone else was silent.
          You are offering a different dimension. Navalny is the spokesman for the interests of big capital, which was not included in the circle of friends - capital that is not allowed to political power, but wants to take it into its own hands. But these hands are hardly any cleaner. Although they have grown already in the new century. Rather, I agree with you that these are the very playful little hands who are ready to cut, plan and squeeze Russia much more intensively, with redoubled ferocity and illegibility, with the help of Western mentors and not without benefit for the latter.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 20 August 2020 20: 29 New
            +4
            Quote: depressant
            Odysseus, your view is very interesting and unexpected for me. I believed that Navalny's activities to expose Putin's friends are useful primarily to Putin himself.

            And that too. The power of the Russian Federation is a conglomerate of rival oligarchic-bureaucratic groups. There is a certain hierarchy, but they are constantly fighting among themselves for food resources. Naturally, on occasion, I merge information with Navalny and use it against each other. But this does not make Navalny "Putin's agent".
            This is only one of the dimensions, of a private nature. More fundamentally, he is a protégé of large transnational capital opposing the local home-grown (associated only with the Russian Federation and inheriting the RSFSR) capital of the former "Komsomol Chekists".
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 August 2020 16: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Odyssey
      But there was not the slightest reason to poison him to the Russian authorities

      To poison these are the methods of the Middle Ages, well, they have everything according to Maurice Druon. And nowadays there are more humane methods. And the West still hasn't moved away from stereotypes, and poison is poured everywhere, now the case with Yushchenko, now with the Skripals, now that Navalny will also be stuck. Well, think of something fashionable, modern.
    3. meandr51
      meandr51 20 August 2020 16: 32 New
      -2
      Why is the severity of the condition against? What, he has a problem with his successors? There are a lot of people who are aiming in his place.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 20 August 2020 20: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: meandr51
        Why is the severity of the condition against? What, he has a problem with his successors? There are a lot of people who are aiming in his place.

        Well, they don't joke with a coma, so the version that he poisoned himself for PR can be discarded.
        As for the rivals in the Maidan party were poisoned, it is possible (I leave this as the second version), but still not very likely.
        1) There is, in fact, tough discipline. Capitalism is accounting laughing Nobody can poison the leader of the opposition just like that. For this, the head will be removed in the literal sense of the word. The West is strict with such things.
        2) There are a lot of people in his place, but it's not easy to replace him. And so few people are aiming at whose place ..
        There you need to meet many qualities, to be promoted. Bulk is a brand, it is popular. To bring a new person to his level is time and a lot of money. Right during the Maidan, yes, the leader is situational. But not now.
        PS Now in Omsk there is a rare kipesh. Sledaki, police, FSB. The chief doctor personally explains everything to his wife. Consultations with the best doctors in the country. What the Kremlin is not really interested in now is getting Navalny's corpse. Whoever poisoned him, the authorities will blame.
  • businessv
    businessv 20 August 2020 15: 02 New
    +1
    Whether he is an oppositionist or not, but a living person, and like all living people, can suffer from cardiovascular diseases, be allergic to any food or substance, and can be poisoned by anything.
    To create a "sacred victim" there must be a victim itself, which does not exist at the moment, therefore there is nothing to talk about. And Navalny's screams in a full plane, where women and children are flying, are simply shameful for a man, so my conclusion: Navalny is Ch.M.O.!
  • Asad
    Asad 20 August 2020 15: 03 New
    +2
    Today I listened to Solovyov, that I liked not gloated, although the opponents are still!
  • Woodman
    Woodman 20 August 2020 15: 05 New
    -1
    Against the background of the events in Belarus, the “Putin regime” began to look less and less “bloody” and more and more adequate in the eyes of many people, not only in Russia, but also in the West.
    Now there are rumors that the Kremlin, frightened by the events in Belarus, is "cleaning up" the opposition. You look, they will also impose sanctions. Well, we are no strangers.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 20 August 2020 15: 05 New
    +4
    "Sprat in our time is easier to poison than vodka" (c)
    1. Kart
      Kart 20 August 2020 15: 27 New
      -6
      He has no money for a sprat. Here the foal swore that he had an income of 400 rubles, of course. Whether in a year, or in a lifetime ... it is not clear.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 20 August 2020 15: 16 New
    -4
    laurels of chipped Yushchenko do not give rest?
  • K-50
    K-50 20 August 2020 15: 18 New
    -2
    He threw some kind of xren into his tea so that they would remember about him, otherwise they suddenly began to forget.
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 20 August 2020 15: 23 New
    -1
    Alcohol and sedatives, and the normal reaction of the body is a coma. And to hell with him ... no one needs him as a victim, except for his curators because of a puddle, and is not interesting.
  • Kart
    Kart 20 August 2020 15: 25 New
    -5
    The most famous Russian "extra-parliamentary oppositionist" is poisoned.

    And you are too much!
    Did he fall off the bridge?
  • Kolin
    Kolin 20 August 2020 15: 27 New
    -5
    It seems that someone threw in stale coke ...
  • zxc15682
    zxc15682 20 August 2020 15: 31 New
    0
    It is perhaps more likely that it was British intelligence who poisoned Navalny. belay
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 20 August 2020 15: 33 New
    0
    Stories of unexplained poisoning
    Why did they forget to mention Alibasov?
  • shed
    shed 20 August 2020 15: 37 New
    0
    why is he alive?
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 August 2020 15: 37 New
    -3
    If they really poisoned, then most likely their own. It would be better for the authorities to keep it ... He is wasting the State Department money so mediocrely! Maybe they were "asked" for them?
    1. Kart
      Kart 20 August 2020 15: 44 New
      -4
      Nobody hounded him.
      Maybe I saw a portrait of Putin at home on the wall, or some other fright happened. Well, he put it in his mouth not as usual, in excitement.
    2. krops777
      krops777 20 August 2020 16: 11 New
      +1
      If they really poisoned, then most likely their own. It would be better for the authorities to keep it ... He is wasting the State Department money so mediocrely! Maybe they were "asked" for them?


      For me, this is more of a PR, in a few days they will be discharged, they will be publicly rolled out on a gurney and with another exposing film will be released on the Internet about how the Kremlin authorities poisoned him.
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 20 August 2020 15: 42 New
    +4
    The author, obviously, presses on the third version .. and the argumentation is very banal and dull.
    that recently they began to forget about Navalny.
    Yes, yes, they began to forget, that's right on VO especially. Here, more than one marshal's career was made on the topic of Navalny and others
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 20 August 2020 23: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Yes, yes, they began to forget, that's right on VO especially. Here, more than one marshal's career was made on the topic of Navalny and others

      Here everything is straight according to Freud. The classic complex of denial. Particularly funny are the phrases about the "shot down pilot" and about "Navalny, who does not pose a threat" against the background of the grandiose noise about his poisoning. Kremlin statements, first news in the media. For example, the official reaction of the top officials of the largest states of the West
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 August 2020 15: 44 New
    -5
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Crown without virus
    I am sooo critical EVERY Thursday at 20-00 I watch his program ... what can I say ...

    That is why the corona flew off the virus! yes

    What a pity that even at school age you did not remember the banal truth - you should be closer to the enemy than to your relatives good This was taught to us in the USSR in the classroom ... as I understand it - Is your post a consequence of the exam?
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 August 2020 15: 46 New
    -8
    Quote: Lesovik
    Quote: Crown without virus
    If he had lied in his statements completely, he would have been imprisoned a long time ago under the laws of the Russian Federation !!

    If he had not lied, he would have been jailed much earlier than just "a long time ago." At least if you believe the supporters of the theory of the "bloody regime" ...

    You have NOT carefully read my post !!! am
    If I say - "critically" - then I double-check !!!
  • codetalker
    codetalker 20 August 2020 15: 47 New
    0
    There is also such an assumption that he is pretending / himself attracted in order to delay the trial, on charges of defamation. As you know, Lyoshka is on conditional, and this conditional can turn into real after a court decision. And its first meeting, if I am not mistaken, was scheduled for August 24.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 August 2020 15: 58 New
      +1
      He still sticks out 80 million rubles for someone in a court case.
    2. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 20 August 2020 16: 02 New
      +4
      Lyokha took a mastery lesson from the master of fooling Efremov.
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 20 August 2020 15: 55 New
    +1
    I can say one thing about those who believed in Lesha - fuckers are not mammoths, they will not die out
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 20 August 2020 15: 55 New
    +3
    I drank Ossetian Kurvazier))
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 August 2020 15: 58 New
    -1
    Quote: Carte
    Quote: Crown without virus
    Since it is broadcasting, it means that "not everything is so smooth in the Danish kingdom"

    Then you can not write about the ollesha, the task is completed.

    excuse me please!!! drinks I write as I think good and for free - I ask you to notice - but I was always interested in the question - how much are the Zaputins paid for posts with me wassat
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 20 August 2020 16: 00 New
    0
    If the Kremlin was presented with something, then only for something that they did not see, they did not save Lyokha. Because The Kremlin is not at all profitable to kill such a putrid person. But on the other hand, no one poured him through the funnel, he drank, walked, mixed.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 August 2020 16: 01 New
    +5
    Yes, sorry for Lesha. We are already used to it. Although he is a grant-eater, a foe and "poured water on someone else's mill," he was still useful. They merged their own, definitely.
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 20 August 2020 16: 06 New
    -4
    To me too, XXXfigure ...

    Dirty hands, transfer the poison to this ... - it is better to poison beetles in the garden,
    the harvest will be.
    On the human trash heap the same .- How many likes will be recruited.

    Eroplan rose - closer to the Lord
    here the Lord WARNED him, you will be for foul deeds ...
    Will it get there?

    Instead of rotten living corpses,
    cheaper and more functional to turn these into natural ones.
    There will be types of "martyrs" and "victims" of durable use.
    Such as the Horst Wessel, long-term liberal stuffed animals.
  • ELEZKIY
    ELEZKIY 20 August 2020 16: 12 New
    +4
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: ROSS 42
    And the one who argued that he would not change the constitution and would not nominate himself for a new term, knows exactly how and how the period of his rule will end?

    Let's first live until 2024 and find out if Putin will run for president. The fact that his term of office was reset does not mean that he will continue to rule. Although ... he may and will rule, but in the shadows! I so want to live until these elections ...

    let's live until 2024, 2030, 2036 ........
  • bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 20 August 2020 16: 13 New
    0
    Yes, this is news of a worldwide scale, less and less like this site, less and less often there is a desire to visit it. The only thing that pleases me is the news from the Colorado Cockroach, sometimes I go to see his notes.
  • nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 20 August 2020 16: 19 New
    0
    Who needs it? He is needed to split the opposition, nothing else.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 20 August 2020 16: 23 New
    +1
    Comrades doctors, save Anatoly! Don't let him be turned into a sacrificial lamb.
    Not for the first time already ..


  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 20 August 2020 16: 24 New
    -2
    After all, the society began to forget about Boris Nemtsov, who was shot under strange circumstances.
    Why forget, the trail led to Kadyrov's people, then no one began to unravel. There is no evidence that the killed opponents of the regime were sacred victims. Moreover, the special services have failed in the Skripals case.
    If we were talking about the special services, then, most likely, they would have already talked about the date of the funeral, and the special services now have a lot of other opportunities to eliminate any uncomfortable person.
    The secret services are not the same. Continuous failures. It is clear that the heroes of his investigations are behind this. Including the owner who ordered this article, I know a lot of dough from them.
  • Clueless
    Clueless 20 August 2020 16: 27 New
    0
    I go to the topvar, and I think they will clearly write about the sacred sacrifice. That dummmm ..
    We have something often sacred victims are those who are not pleasing to the authorities. For example, the same Nemtsov, who was killed near the Kremlin.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 August 2020 16: 27 New
    -3
    But let's consider for an EXAMPLE a HYPOTHETICAL situation repeat

    RT represented by Simomyan filed a lawsuit against Navalny's team for "hitting" that watching videos "winding up" ... I would be invited to court as an INDEPENDENT expert (experience - there is in such cases in court hi ) (a summary of the "run over" - in case it is true that the money of the STATE media outlet Simonyan puts in his pocket - 8-10 years in places "not so remote" for hello! - judging by the amount of RT funding)

    1. I would ask you to provide me with logs to the server
    2. Would take 2 weeks for analysis
    3. Then I would give my verdict:
    - Navalny's team is lying - and Navalny's team would sit down for at least 3-5 years
    - Navalny's team is telling the truth - and Simonyan would have been in prison for 8-10 years

    Question: Why didn't this trial take place? Would Simonyan win an easy run if "hitting" was just a hit? repeat
    1. akunin
      akunin 21 August 2020 12: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Crown without virus
      Question: Why didn't this trial take place? Would Simonyan win an easy run if "hitting" was just a hit?

      the answer is simple, as you go to the site "rashi tudey" (the disgusting name) the message flies out: "join the ranks of foreign agents."

      and bulk who? correct foreign agent.
  • Hiller
    Hiller 20 August 2020 16: 30 New
    -3
    A thief and a scoundrel. Much honor to discuss. May it be rewarded for your deeds ..
    1. Hiller
      Hiller 21 August 2020 12: 48 New
      0
      tongue piled minus ...
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 20 August 2020 16: 30 New
    -1
    Quote: RUnnm

    The same Nemtsov - no one remembered about him, and then they depicted a cult figure of the opposition from him.
    He also put all the officials on our cars, and you either, since you don't remember, or an official
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 August 2020 16: 33 New
    0
    Quote: meandr51
    Are there kingdoms where "everything is smooth"? Are there countries where there is no corruption? What do you want to prove? Personally, I am for corruption. It does more good than harm. If taxes are removed from everyone and stolen at the very top (as in the USA), this will only make the ordinary people worse. And worse than in the USA. Because they will be taken out of the country. And so a third of the working people spend their unearned within the country, creating jobs. It won't get any better. And worse - for sure.

    Can I tell you how many years "in places not so remote" your post is pulling? bully
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 20 August 2020 16: 35 New
    -2
    Gribochkov ate and aha ... And then there was a "sacred sacrifice" ... I told my grandson: "I'm not sure about the mushroom, don't put it in the basket" ... Navalny didn't have the right grandfather: he didn't teach me how to distinguish mushrooms, and he didn't even whip for lies and betrayal ... That's the result - I sold my homeland, but I got lost ... IMHO ...
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 20 August 2020 16: 37 New
    +2
    And wow. What luck fell on our ears. For 6 years we had to listen to about Ukraine. Now the same amount about Belarus. And in between Efremov, Kushtau, and now also Navalny, whom I learned about quite recently. And famous political scientists will broadcast to us about this. After all, they understand all things. Each of them is a "reaper, a blacksmith, and a gamer". From art to economics. True, it all comes down to one thing.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 20 August 2020 16: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander X
    Gribochkov ate and aha ... And then there was a "sacred sacrifice" ... I told my grandson: "I'm not sure about the mushroom, don't put it in the basket" ... Navalny didn't have the right grandfather: he didn't teach me how to distinguish mushrooms, and he didn't even whip for lies and betrayal ... That's the result - I sold my homeland, but I got lost ... IMHO ...

    Who sold Navalny, Or oligarchs who buy the most expensive mansions in the USA and Europe or Soloviev who bought all of Italy ????
  • Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 20 August 2020 16: 41 New
    +3
    In the current political situation, Navalny does not pose any real threat to the current government and even to its individual representatives. Moreover, his many years of "opposition" activity is accompanied by a fair amount of hype, but no serious consequences for him personally did not come. This only suggests that Navalny is actually indifferent to the authorities, if not beneficial. For example, it draws the attention of opposition-minded citizens, shifts the focus of attention from the real shortcomings of the existing socio-economic system to private and, in general, meaningless nuances like the cost of the ex-prime minister's sneakers or the height of the fence at the dacha of some top manager of a state corporation.

    Solidarity by 200%
  • Blue fox
    Blue fox 20 August 2020 16: 42 New
    -1
    Sacred sacrifice, of course. I would not be surprised if his supporters will soon present to the public a publication with the text of the new constitution of Russia with the imprint of Zolotov's tibia, extracted from the womb of this very victim.
  • Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 20 August 2020 16: 43 New
    0
    And half an hour before the retweet, it was announced that Navalny was in a coma ...

    Retweet this sacred.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 20 August 2020 16: 44 New
    -4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbRoZyuOijk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrwlk7_GF9g
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyPWPTYf-b0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYQbgvzxdM
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 21 August 2020 09: 14 New
      0
      Navalny recommends his videos in a coma.