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The Security Council explained why the Russian Navy is guarding ships for the "Nord Stream - 2"

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The Russian Federation has connected its warships to guard the ships participating in the Nord Stream 2 project. Previously, the Russian Navy accompanied the Akademik Chersky pipelayer and auxiliary vessels during the transition to the Baltic Sea.


The reason for the adoption of these measures was explained by the Deputy Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Mikhail Popov during an interview with the news agency Interfax.

He said such precautions are necessary due to the risk of provocations from some countries:

Ships of the Naval fleet ensured the safe passage of the pipe-laying vessel “Akademik Chersky” and supply vessels “Ostap Sheremeta” and “Ivan Osipenko” from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad.

The construction of the pipeline had to be suspended due to the sanctions imposed by the United States in December last year. Due to the threat of falling under them, the pipe-laying vessels of the Swiss company Allseas curtailed work. Then the Gazprom company decided to complete the pipe-laying on its own. In January, President Vladimir Putin announced the decision of the Russian Federation to complete the project. He said that the gas pipeline will be launched without fail, but several months later than planned. As far as is known, the pipe-laying work at the final section has not yet begun.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 August 2020 16: 19 New
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    The reason for taking these measures was explained by Deputy Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Mikhail Popov during an interview with the Interfax news agency.
    Why why. We went out for a walk, we have the right, so everyone says. request
    1. figwam
      figwam 19 August 2020 16: 48 New
      +6
      He said such precautions are necessary due to the risk of provocations from some countries:

      These are the well-known democratic countries of the Western world, in a word, a gang.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 August 2020 16: 20 New
    -6
    I am not surprised to hear that there is a special armed division on board the pipelayer. ..
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 19 August 2020 16: 29 New
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      I am not surprised to hear that there is a special armed division on board the pipelayer.
      And the standard armament of the pipelayer is not inferior to the cruiser lol
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 19 August 2020 16: 57 New
        +3
        Underwater ... And a little more air defense system ...
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 19 August 2020 17: 22 New
          +2
          And a little more air defense system ...
          Well, a small air wing for 25 Su-27K
    2. sergo1914
      sergo1914 19 August 2020 17: 54 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      I am not surprised to hear that there is a special armed division on board the pipelayer. ..


      Not a division. Steeper. Meehan with an ancient berdanka. For a long time he threatened to tear his ass off the couch and hang the foe. And here is such a chance.
    3. snucerist
      snucerist 19 August 2020 18: 24 New
      -14
      Does the lack of special equipment to continue the project on board the pipelayer surprise you?
      What is there to guard at all?
      If Chersky today is neither technically nor technologically capable of laying large-diameter pipes? Unable to continue laying the SP-2 pipes?
      What is he doing in the area anyway?
      Why not retrofitted? Looking forward to next cod spawning season?
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su 19 August 2020 20: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: snucerist
        If Chersky today is neither technically nor technologically capable of laying large-diameter pipes? Unable to continue laying the SP-2 pipes?

        Pay more. Together with Fortuna, he will complete the construction. And they are waiting for the final political decision. The European Union is trying to grind with the states according to the concepts of who milks which cow ...
        1. snucerist
          snucerist 19 August 2020 21: 29 New
          -9
          Yes, let the European Union resolve its issues with the United States even to the point of blue in the face.
          Am I asking this?
          I am asking a specific question: why is Chrsky not being modernized? Why isn't new equipment being installed that can complete the flow?
          Nothing of your own? Again you have to bow to the damned bourgeois? Is it tearful to ask the West?
          Well, it’s right to talk about it, and not fool around with the security of the ship, from which at the moment there is no good for SP-2.
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 19 August 2020 22: 14 New
            +2
            Quote: snucerist
            I am asking a specific question: why is Chrsky not being modernized?

            First, who will tell you the truth now, whether it is being modernized or not? Secondly, Chersky can lay the gas pipeline together with Fortuna. Fortune cooks, Chersky lays the thread. Does this answer suit you?
          2. Alex Nevs
            Alex Nevs 21 August 2020 09: 54 New
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            And not with your mind? Weak?
        2. Roman246810
          Roman246810 20 August 2020 10: 10 New
          -1
          Together with Fortuna, he will complete

          You slept through everything again ..))
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 20 August 2020 10: 33 New
            -1
            Quote: Roman246810
            You slept through everything again ..))

            So enlighten me, what did I sleep there?
    4. Varaga
      Varaga 19 August 2020 22: 13 New
      +2
      And I will double if there is such a subdivision.
  3. svp67
    svp67 19 August 2020 16: 21 New
    +6
    And that our warships will accompany them in Danish and German territorial waters? Still no ... water from NATO countries.
  4. Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 19 August 2020 16: 23 New
    +8
    Quote: Thrifty
    I am not surprised to hear that there is a special armed division on board the pipelayer. ..

    Reminded: Yesterday an American nuclear submarine collided with an iceberg and sank. The iceberg crew was awarded the Orders of the Red Banner laughing
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 19 August 2020 16: 25 New
      +9
      Iceberg flow is not terrible. Scary spawning cod with a Polish accent.
  5. Pavel57
    Pavel57 19 August 2020 16: 34 New
    -3
    The question is what threats do we see in this case - capture, internment or mines and torpedoes?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 19 August 2020 16: 44 New
      +3
      They are ex officio to consider all options. Up to the civilian aircraft shot down over the ship.
  6. Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 19 August 2020 16: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: Pavel57
    The question is what threats do we see in this case - capture, internment or mines and torpedoes?

    Another thing is important here. What threat will those who want to become a threat see?
    And if at this time our sailors "carelessly" sunbathe on the deck, it means that everything is serious, and the potential damage to the raider will definitely not be compatible with positive buoyancy.
  7. fa2998
    fa2998 19 August 2020 16: 56 New
    -4
    Quote: NERON
    this flow is not just a huge economic benefit

    Very noticeable! wassat The streams are half empty, no one is buying at our price. In addition, a transit agreement with Ukraine for 5 years (the minimum is indicated there). But we will not "pump" the established minimum, they will go to court again, and we will pay, be sure!
    And we attract the fleet, we overestimate the cost of construction (well, at least they will practice), when they will pay off, it is not known (applies to ALL built flows).
  8. ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 19 August 2020 17: 15 New
    -7
    At last! I have one question, why didn't the Navy immediately accompany this pipelayer to this mountain? Maybe the pipes were already under the supervision of the military!
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 19 August 2020 17: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
      Why didn't the Navy immediately accompany this pipelayer to this mountain?

      If the pipeline troops in Crimea are engaged in water supply, then why should they not be engaged in laying and protecting gas pipelines? This pipelayer had to be handed over to the RF Armed Forces long ago, as well as all oil and gas production platforms and vessels operating outside the territorial waters of the RF. Immediately, the number of platforms carrying weapons would increase several times. Moreover, I participate in economic activities, these dual-purpose vessels not only paid off, but also made a profit.
      1. Mikhail Ya2
        Mikhail Ya2 20 August 2020 13: 51 New
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        Then, for sure, NATO countries will not give permission for the operation of these ships.
  9. Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 19 August 2020 17: 16 New
    -11
    It is also interesting why the FMS of Russia protects private commercial property?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 19 August 2020 17: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: BoratSagdiev
      It is also interesting why the FMS of Russia protects private commercial property?

      Is the Federal Migration Service guarding someone? smile
      And if you are talking about the Navy, then why can't the largest shareholder of the company guard the construction site on its own?
      And in general, our state simply follows global trends. Like the citadel of democracy used its military to expand the presence of the Halliburton company and then protect the property of that company. smile
      1. Boratsagdiev
        Boratsagdiev 19 August 2020 19: 24 New
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        Oh, you are just like children. State.
        This is a word for covering private affairs and is thrown in any direction with a wave of a magic wand.
        Oligarchs and shareholders would say - it's me! )))
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 19 August 2020 19: 31 New
          +3
          Quote: BoratSagdiev
          Oh, you are just like children. State.
          This is a word for covering private affairs and is thrown in any direction with a wave of a magic wand.

          Nevertheless, protecting the interests of one of the largest taxpayers for the state will not be superfluous.
          Quote: BoratSagdiev
          Oligarchs and shareholders would say - it's me! )))

          I used to think that what is good for our country is good for General Motors, and vice versa. It is the same.
          © Charles Wilson
        2. Pavel57
          Pavel57 20 August 2020 10: 56 New
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          BoratSagdiev (Borat), not quite a correct comparison: the state is an instrument for fulfilling the needs of the ruling class.
    2. Yura
      Yura 19 August 2020 17: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: BoratSagdiev
      why does the Federal Migration Service of Russia protect private commercial property?

      Name these companies, name the owners.
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 20 August 2020 11: 11 New
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        Do not play around, my friend, maybe you will also require proof?)))
        From the comments you can understand who you are and what you breathe.
        Want a list of businesses please
        owned by the state about 50,23%. Of these, 38,37% are owned by the Federal Property Management Agency. Another 10,9 7% is controlled by JSC Rosneftegaz, and the remaining 0,89% is owned by JSC
        So almost 50% of the interest is owned by the oligarch
        And the state budget is replenished from the pocket of hard workers who already receive crumbs
        But you just need to say to all this one thing for the public that the owner of even 0,01% of shares brings millions in profits to the pocket of the oligarch, but not the state
        1. Yura
          Yura 20 August 2020 13: 45 New
          +1
          By the way, JSC "Rosneftegaz" is one hundred percent property of the state, so it turns out because of how you have designated one hundredth percent of the shares in private ownership, all your stuffing? 99,99% of the shares, that is, property (I repeat, this is your calculations), because of this, are not subject to control and protection? Do not make grimaces and look at what you breathe yourself, you yourself answered the question of who you are. Who I am I know without you, do not bother to get personal. And the question was not for you.
          1. vavilon
            vavilon 20 August 2020 14: 13 New
            -1
            Well, firstly, not me, but demanded proof and facts, you always demand this, and this is not in the first comment
            And please read my attentive comment before commenting on it.
            It clearly states that almost half of the shares are owned by private individuals, that is, oligarchs, and for comparison, I gave an example that 0,01% brings millions of income and owns almost 50% of the shares that bring them a total of billions of dollars in profits and you do not need to turn over completely that you did not understand something.
            1. Yura
              Yura 20 August 2020 15: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: vavilon
              It clearly states that almost half of the shares are owned by private individuals, that is, oligarchs, and for comparison, I gave the example that 0,01% brings millions of income and owns almost 50% of the shares that bring them a total of billions in profits

              As you wrote so, I understood whether now it has clarified, well, okay. Further - our state is us, the territory and everything on it and under it, also above it, respectively, state property, your private property, mine, the oligarch, including - this is also a state, for it, that is, the state and its property as well as the population, our state has and maintains an army and some power structures to ensure the normal life of the state, its security and encroachments from outside. On your one state should provide all of the above, while others do not? I don't give a damn about all sorts of oligarchs and other spiders in the bank, they do without me, and even more so without them, but all they have is their money bringing taxes to the state, in your words, billions, and therefore it is necessary to ensure all this safety. We live in a capitalist state amongst the same capitalist states, where private property is the basis and inviolable. Someday we will build communism in our country, I will not find it, but I would be happy about it. "You must look and see, only then will you see the road"
              1. vavilon
                vavilon 20 August 2020 17: 01 New
                -1
                You just set it up like a spoiled record: State state state ...)))))
                The problem is that our state has already been privatized, like its history, that's the whole trouble.
                And don't worry! If not to communism, then you will definitely live to see socialism))))) Although according to your comments, you hate him like a red canvas.
                1. Yura
                  Yura 20 August 2020 17: 08 New
                  0
                  Quote: vavilon
                  Although, according to your comments, you hate him like a red canvas bull.

                  Bring at least one, the lie is an insidious thing, one day you will have to answer for it.
                  1. vavilon
                    vavilon 20 August 2020 17: 46 New
                    -1
                    Do not worry, there will definitely not be a repetition of the Red Terror, well, banks, strategic enterprises, the earth's bowels and its natural resources, of course, should return 100% to state property And bring income to the state and replenish the country's budget and not rip off the bulk of the working population taxes which were turned into the maintenance personnel of this oligarchic system
                    Only in this way can social justice prevail.
                    And I will only have to answer before the Lord God
          2. Boratsagdiev
            Boratsagdiev 20 August 2020 15: 21 New
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            Quote: Jura
            it is XNUMX% state property

            the state has also long been 100% private property)))
            You all read this word like a prayer - the state.
            If there is no social. property and social. rule it, it is all private property.
            And no matter whether it is a state or not, it is just a name and a balm for the soul of an ordinary person.
            Private businesses use this feeder just as well as they do their own money.
  10. Lumpen
    Lumpen 19 August 2020 17: 22 New
    -9
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    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 19 August 2020 17: 31 New
      +6
      just for VO, uncensored

      1. Lumpen
        Lumpen 19 August 2020 17: 48 New
        -7
        Test, video firelaughing
    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 19 August 2020 18: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Lumpen
      Comrades came across an interesting article, just for VO, uncensored https://vpk.name/news/434740_slepye_cirkony.html

      This article is interesting for an amateur who is familiar with the military-industrial complex through the VO website. And here there are more serious comrades. So throw in a link somewhere on LJ, or wherever your tanks are playing.
      1. Lumpen
        Lumpen 19 August 2020 18: 22 New
        -9
        Uncle, have you even read the title and looked at the authorship? laughing
        Do not judge by yourself!
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 August 2020 17: 38 New
    0
    Isn't it easier to use the State Company for such vessels ....?
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 19 August 2020 18: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Isn't it easier to use the State Company for such vessels ....?

      The usual practice of escorting support ships is in progress. What's the question? What is better to accompany? Cruise yachts or warships? Shall we have a brainstorming session?
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 19 August 2020 18: 57 New
        -1
        The ships are owned by OJSC .... and they can be arrested due to sanctions or imposed on the company itself. And if they are listed in the State Company, as in the USSR.
  12. businessv
    businessv 19 August 2020 20: 03 New
    0
    So far, as far as is known, the pipe-laying work at the final section has not begun.
    And who can say why work on the final section did not begin?
  13. iouris
    iouris 19 August 2020 20: 17 New
    -7
    I hope that Gazprom's shareholders pay generously for the services they provide.
  14. Varaga
    Varaga 19 August 2020 22: 05 New
    0
    The ships of the Navy ensured the safe passage of the Akademik Chersky pipe-laying vessel and supply vessels

    It couldn't be otherwise. Especially in modern realities. After the pipeline is laid, and even more so after the start of the flow, ours will also guard it. Otherwise, the pin-dos (by the hands of the Sumerians, for example) will arrange "big bada-boom" there very quickly.
  15. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 20 August 2020 08: 07 New
    +1
    This is not a guard, this is a lost property search service. Already one combat loss was found, although no one admitted whose and had to be blown up on the spot. Knowing the ability of the Americans to lose everything, including thermonuclear bombs from bombers, this is justified.
    1. agond
      agond 20 August 2020 10: 44 New
      0
      However, I wonder how we can protect the work of the pipelayer and the pipelines themselves lying on the seabed in the economic zone of other states?
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 20 August 2020 11: 22 New
        0
        The claims of the insurance companies will be directed to the countries-owners of these zones where the incident occurred. And nobody wants to restore it at their own expense. So they are not at all interested, the "partners" in NATO can of course be helpful, but hardly ... Well, well-wishers can swim in "no-man's water" and mess with it almost fearlessly.
  16. vavilon
    vavilon 20 August 2020 10: 47 New
    +1
    If I understand correctly, the Nord Stream Two gas pipe, like Nord Stream One, was built on state funds, but the product that is pumped and will be pumped through these pipes will belong not only to the state but also to the oligarchs, all possible means for the security of this project are involved, and believe this not a penny for our treasury, so what happens ?! that the pipes are being built for taxpayers' money, which in the future will be used by the oligarchs, bringing them not even millions, but billions of dollars in profits in their pocket but not the state
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 August 2020 10: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Pereira
    They are ex officio to consider all options. Up to the civilian aircraft shot down over the ship.


    Then you have to have a cruiser. although small corvettes can cope with such a task - the protection of the pipeline.
  18. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 20 August 2020 12: 29 New
    0
    And what is the share of the Russian Federation in Gasprom and SP-1, SP-2?
    50-80% of 90% of Russian shares are sold.
    And you think on whose money there are all sorts of "Rains", Echoes of Moscow ", Navalny, basements, Belarus, Khabarovsk, adventures with coronaviruses and donations of Eastern Siberia, Krasnoyarsk Territory, gold and diamond deposits of the United States and the world financial master?
    Everything is sold and betrayed. The semblance of statehood and patriotism is the same as that of the "father" ...
    Nord Stream ... it doesn't belong to 145 million slaves!
    1. agond
      agond 27 August 2020 13: 59 New
      0
      The underwater pipeline is vulnerable, but that would be half the trouble, it’s bad that it is anonymously vulnerable, the gas supply has stopped and no one will admit who did it.