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“Prepared for over a year”: the press of Ukraine confirmed that the SBU was behind the operation with the Russians in Belarus

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After several days of silence, the Ukrainian press published materials about an investigation carried out in Russia into the detention of Russian citizens in Belarus.


Thus, the newspaper Ukrainskaya Pravda publishes an article that confirms the fact that the appearance of a group of Russians who had previously fought in the Donbass on the territory of Belarus was actually part of the plan of the Ukrainian special services. The plan itself was aimed at ensuring that the citizens of Russia, issued by Kiev as representatives of the "PMC Wagner", ended up in Kiev. The Ukrainian side succeeded in the first part of the plan, but its further implementation, as you know, failed.

The operation, as the Ukrainian newspaper writes, was carried out by SBU officers together with the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

It is noteworthy that the information is also confirmed by the editor-in-chief of the notorious site "Censor.net" Yuriy Butusov, who refers to high-ranking officers of the special services of Ukraine. Butusov says that the operation itself had been prepared for over a year before the Russians arrived in Minsk.

According to the Ukrainian media, the final stage of the operation was postponed at the request of the head of the presidential office, Andrei Yermak, after which the data allegedly reached the FSB of the Russian Federation. Ukrainskaya Pravda and Butusov further claim that the Russians were subsequently detained in Minsk. At the same time, some Russian journalists say that at that time in Belarus they considered that they were detaining militants from Ukraine, since their contacts at that time were with the organizers of the provocation in Kiev. After they figured out the situation and the Russians were sent home.

"Ukrainska Pravda" writes that the then head of the GUR, Vasily Burba, realizing that the operation was breaking down, turned to the president with a request to start an investigation into the "leak." But in the end, Burba was fired.

And the chief editor of "Censor" now accuses the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky of deliberately "decapitating the intelligence of the Ministry of Defense."

From a statement in the Ukrainian media environment:

Zelensky removed Burba from office to cover up his clerk Yermak.
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website of the President of Ukraine
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  1. 501Legion
    501Legion 19 August 2020 07: 00 New
    26
    it's better not to have to do with dill, you goddamn country
    1. igordok
      igordok 19 August 2020 07: 05 New
      24
      Quote: 501Legion
      it's better not to have to do with dill, you goddamn country

      I would, in your statement, replace the rotten one with the rotten one.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 19 August 2020 07: 14 New
        +5
        Butusov is an unreliable source. He wrote that the Boeing was shot down by the Buk-M1-2 (adopted by the Russian Federation in 1998), which was not confirmed by anyone at all, including the Dutch investigation.
        1. svp67
          svp67 19 August 2020 07: 51 New
          +5
          Quote: military_cat
          This was not confirmed by anyone at all, including the Dutch investigation.

          And even by that consequence, something has already been confirmed ... How many prosecutors have they replaced? Just like Krylov: "And you friends, how do not sit down, everyone in the" prosecutor "is not good ..."
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 August 2020 08: 28 New
          14
          Quote: military_cat
          Butusov is an unreliable source. He wrote that the Boeing was shot down by the Buk-M1-2 (adopted by the Russian Federation in 1998), which was not confirmed by anyone at all, including the Dutch investigation.


          By the way, oh birdies MH-17 yes .
          This information eluded the majority, but if not a turning point in this matter, then at least it has already changed something in the course of the process.

          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 19 August 2020 09: 25 New
            0
            Well done Insurgent! This is very important news and, most importantly, to the right place and on time!
            All together - with the provocation of the SBU in Belarus and the detention of Russians - it very well exposes and characterizes the modern khuntashny criminal Kiev authorities in Ukraine and the SBU itself.
            Only I believe that the detention of the Russians was not done without a Ukrainian or American "mole" in the Belarusian KGB.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 19 August 2020 11: 13 New
              +1
              Only I believe that the detention of the Russians was not done without a Ukrainian or American "mole" in the Belarusian KGB.

              Someone in the KGB RB undoubtedly gave a positive assessment of the Ukrainian information. yes
              More interesting things:
              Kwasniewski said that attempts to overthrow Lukashenka could bring some pro-Russian leader to power.
              And it so happened that Poland did not let Babaryk fly to Poland to negotiate with the "American senators" in Kiev. bully
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 19 August 2020 07: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: igordok
        I would, in your statement, replace the rotten one with the rotten one.

        I would leave "pernicious and rotten" and add the vile one.
    2. Mitroha
      Mitroha 19 August 2020 07: 11 New
      +2
      Are they starting to pour on Zelensky, are we waiting for the next Maidan?
      1. Don karleone
        Don karleone 19 August 2020 07: 20 New
        +1
        Do not start but continue
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        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 19 August 2020 08: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Don Karleone
          Do not start but continue
          Precisely, there, as under Yushcha, the Maidan began with "orange ties" and continues, only during this time "four clowns" have already changed - Yusch, Yanik, Gunpowder, Ze.
        3. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 19 August 2020 09: 09 New
          0
          This is the Ukrainian national holiday "Get out!" called, not every year, but regularly celebrate with cookies. I do not know who will be next after the comedian, but I suspect that the character is dressed as Darth Vader, since in order to "strike back" the "Empire" is urgently needed ... lol
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 19 August 2020 08: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Mitroha
        Are they starting to pour on Zelensky, are we waiting for the next Maidan?

        Well, like they promised on August 24th. Happy Independence Day, so to speak!
      3. Stas Sv
        Stas Sv 19 August 2020 09: 16 New
        -1
        It is expected to start on 24 August. On Independence Day. Wait not long ...
      4. orionvitt
        orionvitt 19 August 2020 13: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Mitroha
        waiting for the next Maidan?

        According to preliminary estimates and according to the law of the genre, there may not be a Maidan, but a coup in Ukraine is being prepared, and even according to Ukropress, it is scheduled for August 24 (the day of "Independence"). I believe that, in the opinion of Western curators, Ukraine is not coping well with its role, a thorn in Russia. Russia did not come to the war, did not give a damn about the sanctions, Zelensky is a rag not capable of anything, now something needs to be done, more radical. Namely, nafig burn all of Ukraine in the fire of democracy, and it is desirable at the same time, burn Russia, at least a little. On this, the role of Ukraine in the world historical process will be fulfilled. And Ukraine, as you know, by order of the owners, in principle is ready for any provocation. So the incident in the Kerch Strait will seem like an ordinary childish prank. Let's take a look, as they say.
    3. Civil
      Civil 19 August 2020 07: 13 New
      -17
      That's great, Lukashenko has nothing to do with it, he is not a Russophobe. You can safely beat the wrong Belarusians and drive them back under the bunk. And dismiss drug addicts from factories. wassat
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 19 August 2020 07: 19 New
        +2
        Sorry for off-topic
        Damascus, August 19. An American military base in the Syrian province of Deir ez-Zor came under rocket fire. SANA news agency reports

        Against the background of the explosion of the car with our general and the SAA officer, some kind of active movement began in the province.
      2. sergo1914
        sergo1914 19 August 2020 07: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        That's great, Lukashenko has nothing to do with it, he is not a Russophobe. You can safely beat the wrong Belarusians and drive them back under the bunk. And dismiss drug addicts from factories. wassat


        Bored under the bunk without the wrong Belarusians? Is loneliness gnawing?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 August 2020 07: 46 New
          11
          “Prepared for over a year”: the press of Ukraine confirmed that the SBU was behind the operation with the Russians in Belarus

          Sewing, in a sack, all the more full of holes, Okrainsky, you can't hide ...

          High-quality, with humor, video, with a fairly detailed description of the SBU's plans.

          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 19 August 2020 08: 16 New
            +3
            Thank you, I love to see Sharia. He subtly notes and narrates in an accessible way.
      3. artifact
        artifact 19 August 2020 09: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        That's great, Lukashenko has nothing to do with it, he is not a Russophobe. You can safely beat the wrong Belarusians and drive them back under the bunk. And dismiss drug addicts from factories. wassat

        that's right, those who got out from under the bunk - drive back, because there is their place. but about drug addicts - what kind of drug addict is a worker !? of course dismiss.
    4. svp67
      svp67 19 August 2020 07: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: 501Legion
      it's better not to have to do with dill, you goddamn country

      Well, Poland is not averse to "playing" with the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine on the territory of Belarus ...

    5. Karaul73
      Karaul73 19 August 2020 08: 57 New
      -1
      So don't bother. Death awaits.
    6. Vend
      Vend 19 August 2020 10: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: 501Legion
      it's better not to have to do with dill, you goddamn country

      This is not the point, but the fact that Western curators really understand that Russia is a strong enemy and tried to exclude it from the Belarusian events. However, they miscalculated again. Putin recognized the elections, thereby showing that it is not so easy to destroy Belarus by the Maidan. Those who screamed that Russia should turn its back on Belarus because of the 33 Wagnerites poured water on the mill of the Western curators of the Belarusian Maidan, on purpose or through thoughtlessness, let it be on their own conscience. And Putin has once again proved that he sees any situation deeper and clearer than others.
    7. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 19 August 2020 15: 08 New
      -1
      If the “journalism” of the outskirts admits the guilt of its special services for the failure, then one should trust them even less.
  2. Kerensky
    Kerensky 19 August 2020 07: 03 New
    -5
    Nonsense. It could have been much easier to work.
    1. krops777
      krops777 19 August 2020 07: 36 New
      +1
      Nonsense. It could have been much easier to work.


      For me, the Ukrainians simply promoted on this, at the event they came up with a successful operation, well, just like terrorists.
      1. Evdokim
        Evdokim 19 August 2020 08: 13 New
        -1
        Quote: krops777
        For me, the Ukrainians just promoted on this, /.../ well, just like terrorists.

        On the street of the city N, in the silencer of the "Zaporozhets" there was a scandal, and Kiev victoriously reports that the DRG MTR of the Armed Forces of Ukraine blew up the armored train of the Akhressor. laughing
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 August 2020 08: 17 New
      -1
      Quote: Kerensky
      Nonsense. It could have been much easier to work.

      Well, that's why they are "children of Soros" to make "bloopers".
  3. Graz
    Graz 19 August 2020 07: 07 New
    +3
    for good, Belarus and Russia should be recalled from Ukraine, or whoever we have an attorney
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 19 August 2020 07: 32 New
      +1

      Graz (Maxim)
      Today, 07: 07
      NEW
      +1
      for good, Belarus and Russia should be recalled from Ukraine,
      I completely agree with you. Shouldn't there be a response? Or was it swallowed again? And the ukronatsiki are getting more and more impudent.
    2. Alexga
      Alexga 19 August 2020 11: 10 New
      0
      for good Belarus and Russia should be recalled from Ukraine

      Already, Ukraine has recalled its from Minsk, automatically the Belarusian probably has already left Kiev.
  4. KAVBER
    KAVBER 19 August 2020 07: 08 New
    +6
    People capable of cranking such multi-moves should be known and treated accordingly, since it is better to know a lot about the enemy than nothing
  5. Shkworen
    Shkworen 19 August 2020 07: 09 New
    +4
    trying to play mossad, but something went wrong :)
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 August 2020 07: 56 New
      +7
      Quote: Shkworen
      trying to play mossad, but something went wrong :)

      Or rather not "something",and all wassat
      1. maksbazhin
        maksbazhin 19 August 2020 11: 15 New
        0
        At the expense of "everything" - they got excited, everything was thin, it could burn out, that's when the problems were cut off.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 August 2020 11: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: maksbazhin
          At the expense of "everything" - they got excited, everything was thin, it could burn out, that's when the problems were cut off.

          Video - https://youtu.be/FiEkIkO5mW0, view, and evaluate why " all "(in terms of the confidence of the special services in the leadership of Ukraine and their interaction).
  6. Kisa
    Kisa 19 August 2020 07: 10 New
    -13
    and Butusov and Pravda are being dragged here ...
    the most optimal now is to refuse comments so that later it does not look faded

    .... Recently appointed head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine (GUR MO) Kirill Budanov today said that the trip of the participants of the private military company "Wagner" to Belarus was planned by the Russian special services ..... Budanov's words are categorically at variance with the versions that said the chief editor of "Censor" Butusov and video blogger Yanina ...
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 19 August 2020 07: 28 New
      +3
      And Kirill Budanov's nose grows like that of Pinocchio for a lie, and therefore his words are true?
      1. Kisa
        Kisa 19 August 2020 07: 34 New
        -8
        Yes, everything is against everyone. Butusov against Zeli. Kremlin, cockroach, Ukraine ... everyone plays his own. the only thing is obvious - these Wagnerians have been playing the dark from the very beginning and who has not promoted on them and we will not know the truth for a long time
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 August 2020 07: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: kitty
      the most optimal now is to refuse comments so that later it does not look faded

      So refuse yes since you cannot distinguish between truth and misinformation ...
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  8. Avior
    Avior 19 August 2020 07: 16 New
    -3
    Stupid invention, not confirmed by anything.
    Allegedly, they wanted to land the plane on the way from Minsk to Turkey in Ukraine, one and the passengers, a Ukrainian agent, was supposed to portray a sudden illness for this, and capture those who were flying, and the capture group supposedly had to enter under the guise of doctors and suddenly capture 28 people. How many doctors should be for this, do not specify.
    They just don't write what would have happened if the plane had returned to Minsk instead of landing in Ukraine.
    1. akunin
      akunin 19 August 2020 09: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Allegedly, they wanted to land a plane on the way from Minsk to Turkey in Ukraine

      + aircraft territory is a sovereign territory.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 19 August 2020 11: 12 New
        +1
        aircraft territory is a sovereign territory.

        Do you think that a country that has been shelling cities with civilians for 6 years should stop before the usual hijacking of a simple plane ?!
        1. akunin
          akunin 19 August 2020 17: 45 New
          0
          at their discretion, but this is a violation of international law + if they are indeed citizens of Russia, then it creates conditions for a reciprocal precedent.
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 19 August 2020 21: 04 New
        0
        Ed, events 03.07.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX - Vienna, the plane of the President of Bolivia E. Morales sad detained at Vienna airport and searched on suspicion that Edward Snowden is on board tongue ... - and the president's plane must be detained and searched ... "The law is that the pole, where he turned - it went there ..."
        1. akunin
          akunin 20 August 2020 14: 08 New
          0
          Quote: cat Rusich
          the plane of the President of Bolivia E. Morales

          key words, our president is not morales (but amorales).
  9. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 19 August 2020 07: 16 New
    +3
    that it is hard to believe that the SBU knows how to play. to be punctured at the performance by paying in cash for tickets in Kiev, I believe in this easily) this is what they can do. more than a year to work so that their journalists would figure out stupidly by requesting copies of tickets)
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 19 August 2020 07: 30 New
      0

      carstorm 11 (Dmitry)
      Today, 07: 16
      NEW
      0
      that it is hard to believe that the SBU knows how to play. ...
      Just do not forget who is behind the sbushniks. But the fact that they did not fuse is very good, and let them look for themselves there (a mad dog bites itself in 99%).
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 19 August 2020 08: 30 New
      +2
      so that their journalists would figure out stupidly by requesting copies of tickets)
      They slander that FSB agents, going abroad, receive passports of the same series, and the passport numbers are in order.
      One school.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 19 August 2020 08: 50 New
        0
        yes with numbers it is generally a big top. I'm 200 percent sure that the coincidence in the numbers is explained trite to the point of stupidity - they work together and together through the same company ordered passports to be made. that's all. a large package is cheaper. this service is generally convenient and quite popular.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 19 August 2020 09: 08 New
          -1
          Or because of secrecy, the documents were issued as a tourist group or scientists at a symposium. The clerk doesn't care.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 19 August 2020 09: 17 New
            -1
            what secrecy?) how to use weapons of mass destruction while not killing anyone?) against someone who is not needed by anyone?)
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 19 August 2020 09: 21 New
              -1
              If I had been instructed to order passports, I, not being a scout and only on the basis of the detective literature I read, would have ordered passports in pieces.
              It is obvious.
              I remember an old Soviet detective, where an operative went through the stubs of air tickets for several days to check if the wanted person had flown away? And we have the 21st century in the yard.
        2. Avior
          Avior 19 August 2020 09: 32 New
          -1
          coincidence in numbers is explained trite to the stupor - they work together

          You are right, it is. Some retirees work together though. and the address sometimes indicates where they work. Khoroshevskoe highway, 76 B. smile
          https://www.fontanka.ru/2018/09/22/009/
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 19 August 2020 10: 20 New
            0
            Oh. hare. I got sick of rereading this nonsense over the years. I was always surprised by only one thing - go and try to get the data on any passport from the FMS. to compare. with others.
            1. Avior
              Avior 19 August 2020 10: 36 New
              -2
              Yes, I can't even receive Clintonich's emails from her mailbox, but someone else could, and much more.
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 19 August 2020 07: 26 New
    +3
    The fact that our guys were set up was immediately clear. Later they found out who was involved in this case - the Ukronazis. I am more worried about the question with the Arab League, which was crucified to the whole world, and accusing Russia, gave spatial interviews to all sorts of gon..gordons .... And will it be too weak to apologize to the whole world and call things by their proper names? The LAG has no courage to go for it. angry
    1. Dim61
      Dim61 19 August 2020 07: 33 New
      +1
      He just has no time. Over the past month, he has cut so much that now he does not have time to edit his jambs. And the crown gets in the way.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 19 August 2020 07: 37 New
        -1

        Dim61 (Dmitry)
        Today, 07: 33

        +1
        He just has no time. Over the past month, he has cut so much that now he does not have time to edit his jambs. And the crown gets in the way.
        So yes, the crown has moved off the LAG's crown. wink And he himself does not know what to carry, and to which shore to stick. I have a question, will it really remain at the same level between Minsk and the unnecessary, after all that has happened? request
  11. askort154
    askort154 19 August 2020 07: 29 New
    0
    The first part of the plan was successful for the Ukrainian side .......

    Since the President of Belarus "swallowed" this misinformation and began to vilify Russia in the Ukrainian media.
  12. Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 19 August 2020 07: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: KAVBER
    People capable of cranking such multi-moves should be known and treated accordingly, since it is better to know a lot about the enemy than nothing

    What is there to know ... They say the Western special forces occupy a whole floor there ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 19 August 2020 08: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Incomprehensible

      What is there to know ... They say the Western special forces occupy a whole floor there ...

      Alas! This is not "spoken", but a real fact. Even at the entrance on the street on one side the flag of Ukraine, and on the other the flag of the United States
  13. Cheldon
    Cheldon 19 August 2020 07: 34 New
    +1
    Already in 10-15 years I foresee the release of the film with the following storyline as a glorious Ukrainian boy fighting in one of the RDG SBU in Donbass. During one of the sorties they fall into a "batch", where everyone perishes (betrayal in the leadership is not excluded), except for him. Parubok knows the callsigns and surnames of the PMKashnikov who destroyed the RDG. For several years, he has been following them through social networks (other options are possible), a plan for revenge is forming in his head. He reports to the leadership, which enthusiastically organizes a provocation. As a result of betrayal, PMKashnikov is released to their homeland. But! The couple does not give up and is considering the following plans for revenge. winked
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 19 August 2020 09: 10 New
      -2
      But the boy remains in Belarus and goes into the forests to partisan.
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 August 2020 07: 38 New
    -1
    It was necessary to send them not through Minsk, but through Lithuania, cyprimer.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 19 August 2020 09: 11 New
      -2
      Then President Nauseda would be kakal with bricks.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 19 August 2020 09: 31 New
        +1
        Or Prime Minister Felionis. Well, surnames.)
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 August 2020 09: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      It was necessary to send them not through Minsk, but through Lithuania, cyprimer.


      Are you serious belay ? If yes, then I'm freaking out yes

      Can you think about the position of Lithuania in relation to those who fought in the Donbass?

      Who, sane, through this definitely hostile territory will the transit of former militias be carried out? belay belay belay
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 19 August 2020 10: 07 New
        0
        From there, Ukraine would receive them upon request 100%
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 August 2020 10: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Zaurbek
          From there, Ukraine would receive them upon request 100%

          Do you read the comments, or prefer to be "on its own wave"?

          Quote: Insurgent
          Who, sane,through this definitely hostile territory will transit the former militias?


          Do you really not understand that in order to make the SBU's conceived plausible, the route had to look safe?
          Moreover, such transfers of various Russian private security companies through the Republic of Belarus are not so rare.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 19 August 2020 10: 28 New
            0
            If you take it seriously, you can act in different ways. You can choose a transit flight, through a loyal country ... you can land a plane. The plane of the president from Latin America was so planted in Europe. They thought Snowden was flying with him.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 19 August 2020 10: 31 New
              +1
              Quote: Zaurbek
              If you take it seriously, you can act in different ways. You can choose a transit flight through loyal country ...

              You, apparently, just to blurt out something, chose Lithuania, a country hostile.

              Think again WHAT you blurted out, speaking in your fabrications about the Lithuanian transit yes
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 19 August 2020 10: 48 New
                -3
                You blunder ..... You can Lithuania ... you can not Lithuania. Any country that, upon request, will hand over people to Ukraine and will not return them to Russia. You catch the meaning tightly. Are you over 50?
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 19 August 2020 10: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  You catch the meaning tightly.

                  What's the point of that (quote)
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  It was necessary to send them not through Minsk, but through Lithuania, cyprimer.

                  What "thoughtful" thing should I get?
  15. KAVBER
    KAVBER 19 August 2020 07: 42 New
    0
    I think everything went wrong at the ukrov at the last moment, since we all knew, but decided to play our game in this situation
  16. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 19 August 2020 07: 58 New
    +1
    Zrada splendid chi peremog, who knows?
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 19 August 2020 08: 04 New
    -1
    Sho say, it is easy to deceive him, if he is deceived by the RAD.
    A primitive setup designed for a specific ISTERICHEKU ... they were preparing for a year, yeah, right now, they believed it. A successful impromptu from any kind of Mr. Smith ... because a helluva lot of smart people are not noticed, judging by their "operations", which they tried to carry out independently.
    And so, jumpers will come down to stimulate the next jumping.
  18. Moonsund
    Moonsund 19 August 2020 08: 17 New
    -1
    I think about something else: What is the idea, what is the creative and elaboration. They prepared, drew them around (well, almost succeeded), gathered people whom they would never get, under any circumstances, killed a herd of hares, not even two. This and the trial over those who fought in Dombas, would have quarreled between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, international resonance and so on. They work. Where is our counterintelligence? The question is, where are ours in this film? And we have stupidity, then they hound us with Skripals, then they expel diplomats, and we just "react." Now the Seluk will poke?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 19 August 2020 08: 36 New
      0
      A primitive operation designed for a specific hysterical woman, who did not even need to be convinced of anything, was poked with a finger, and she immediately grabbed ...
      Counterintelligence does not do this at all, the wrong address of the claim.
      Ours, of course, lost weight, a lot, but raids with polonium, a newcomer and many others, empty in fact, the evidence base! And zhentelmen on the word "believe", or maybe they do not believe, there they are tied by one chain, one goal ... there the MAIN finger will show, shake EVERYTHING with a test tube, the verdict is passed on one, two, three ...
  19. BAI
    BAI 19 August 2020 08: 18 New
    +4
    We have to admit that the SBU outplayed the FSB. And in general, did the FSB get at least one Ukrainian Nazi for the trial? Savchenko doesn't count.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 19 August 2020 08: 43 New
      0
      Quote: BAI
      And in general, did the FSB get at least one Ukrainian Nazi for the trial?

      Those who are fussing with us, committing a misdemeanor in our country, they get there, not one or two ... that's what the politicians twist / stir up, this is a question for them.
      Quote: BAI
      We have to admit that the SBU outplayed the FSB

      What side is the FSB, the question in the direction of "soyuznichka" how and why are they catching the wrong thing there ??? The question must be asked very hard. They have to answer for this bullshit too!
      1. Igoresha
        Igoresha 19 August 2020 09: 30 New
        -1
        And in general, did the FSB get at least one Ukrainian Nazi for the trial?
        Apparently, they are afraid and in no hurry - the RF IC has opened a bunch of criminal cases against officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, let the FSB turn out the operation. lured or removed such an accused to the Russian Federation and then what? Trouble is above the roof, our Nadia-2, it's easier to hand over another militia to Ukraine.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 19 August 2020 10: 02 New
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          Quote: Igoresha
          Trouble is above the roof, our Nadia-2, it's easier to hand over another militia to Ukraine.

          A question for our legislators ???
          A question for our politicians ???
          In general, any imperfection, pulls such an alteration, it would be better if they did not undertake to do it at all.
          1. Igoresha
            Igoresha 19 August 2020 11: 31 New
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            yes, there would be a desire
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 19 August 2020 12: 03 New
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              Skill, diligence, too, will not be superfluous!
  20. dobrik10
    dobrik10 19 August 2020 08: 32 New
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    I do not know if the President of Ukraine knew about this, so to speak, operation, but our special services should know about it. This is their competence and the likely consequences too. The think tank apparently did not work.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 19 August 2020 08: 37 New
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      Let me tell you a big secret - the head of the State Department and the president of Ameriga is not vkurse many of the operations of the NSA and the CIA from the sdov in general, and nothing.
  21. evgen1221
    evgen1221 19 August 2020 08: 35 New
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    Oh, how the ambition of the sbushniks is rushing! For more than a year they had been preparing. Yes, I’ll draw such a divorce in half an hour and a half-ruble of beer! Zero difficulties and professionalism. At the level of a teenager, the plan is to be honest.
  22. parusnik
    parusnik 19 August 2020 08: 36 New
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    And what will be the reaction to this statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry and the Belarusian Foreign Ministry? Is it worth the wait ...
  23. Pavel73
    Pavel73 19 August 2020 08: 38 New
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    Well, crap ... No, it's all over with Ukraine. People have such dirty souls that they will never wash themselves.
  24. Russia without ...
    Russia without ... 19 August 2020 08: 40 New
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    Actually, the Ukrainian truth referred to Yurik Butusov ..
    And this is also that enthusiast ..
  25. Shuttle
    Shuttle 19 August 2020 08: 52 New
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    In my opinion, in a few years, the version that the name Ukraine itself did not come from "edge", but from "steal" will become quite plausible.
  26. Misha_an26
    Misha_an26 19 August 2020 08: 56 New
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    Not the SBU, but the CIA. But the performers, as always, shit everything. Well, this is the mentality, nothing can be done about it.
  27. Nikolay73
    Nikolay73 19 August 2020 09: 24 New
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    "Ukrainian Truth" - a publication with an interesting title ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 August 2020 09: 49 New
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      Quote: Nikolay73
      "Ukrainian Truth" - a publication with an interesting title ...

      The antipode of the code of laws of the ancient Russian prince Yaroslav the Wise, the creator of "Russian Truth".
      1. Nikolay73
        Nikolay73 19 August 2020 17: 43 New
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        ... sounds like the topic of another talk show ... :)
  28. BOB044
    BOB044 19 August 2020 09: 28 New
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    It is necessary to pinch one place with a crest. So that they could breathe only with our permission.
  29. iouris
    iouris 19 August 2020 11: 31 New
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    "Victory has many fathers, defeat has one orphan"
    You can point to the SBU, but there is a network structure behind the operations to destroy states. You might think that you work for the CIA, SBU, Wagner or ... but it's better not to think.
  30. APASUS
    APASUS 19 August 2020 11: 45 New
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    The operation is not unambiguous. They set up more of the Belarusians themselves, forced them to make a choice. They were very surprised that they were not chosen, and the fighters were sent to Russia.
    If this moment is played correctly in the media, then we can say that this is a failure.
    And it's a pity for the men, you have to think at least a little with your head, sign a contract on the Internet
    1. iouris
      iouris 19 August 2020 11: 59 New
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      Quote: APASUS
      The operation is not straightforward.

      Well, you give! Well this is state terrorism. In form - kidnapping for ransom, in fact - distracting and disorienting measures in the process of carrying out a coup d'etat in a state with which diplomatic relations have been established and economic cooperation is underway.
      Here Lukashenka should show his adherence to principles. To begin with: recalling the ambassador for consultations, expelling diplomats, economic sanctions ... But this will spoil relations with everyone: with Pompeo, with the EU ... And he no longer respects Moscow. Didn't even apologize.
  31. Elephant
    Elephant 19 August 2020 12: 13 New
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    It seems to me that it was not without secret agents inside the BelKGB!
  32. Nikolay1
    Nikolay1 19 August 2020 12: 43 New
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    Yes, they were preparing for a year, but the FSB of Russia also knew about this))) and Lukashenko pretended to be a fool, like not knowing that it was the SBU that was preparing them ...
    All the fighters who, in one way or another, somewhere, participated in a military operation, they are all under the control of the FSB or the GRU, it does not matter ... And now imagine that someone wants to hire these fighters to guard the oil storage or somewhere else, right away the special services broke through this organization and found out that there was no such organization either, and there was no need for guards there, that all this was a forgery ...
    Well, as I already wrote, Lukashenko pretended to be a fool, and together with Putin they played this topic, so to speak, to embroil Belarus with Russia, thereby lull the vigilance and prepare for developing events
    All this can be seen with the naked eye, as they say ...
  33. Lumpen
    Lumpen 19 August 2020 13: 14 New
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    The censor is Poroshenko's "garbage dump"! They pulled pseudo-facts from an article in the KP and passed off high-ranking intelligence sources as information.
    There is a direct "attack" on Ermak. Everything takes place on the eve of the celebration of the "Independence Day".
    Already Biletsky from the "National Corps" announced the rally under the OP.
    The political season on the eve of local elections in Ukraine is considered open
  34. Looking for
    Looking for 19 August 2020 14: 48 New
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    have already done it up and backed down - they say that the SBU has nothing to do with this provocation
  35. Tavi
    Tavi 19 August 2020 14: 48 New
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    but if Lukashenka had not detained them at home, the SBU plan might have worked. it would be interesting to know by whose tip they were detained. I think ours were in the know ... and they slowed down only at the last stage, thereby completely dipping into their own G. and with this they pressed dad a little.
  36. good
    good 19 August 2020 20: 05 New
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    What kind of nonsense from the censor is being voiced here?
    It was immediately known who was detained.
    And at once they all prochukhali.
    All they managed to do was assemble a team and bring them to Belarus. what they were counting on is not clear at all. apparently only on the fact that Old Man will finally go crazy.
  37. gorenina91
    gorenina91 20 August 2020 03: 35 New
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    “Prepared for over a year”: the press of Ukraine confirmed that the SBU was behind the operation with the Russians in Belarus

    - Is the SBU really so omnipotent; that without much difficulty it outplayed both the Russian FSB and the Belarusian KGB (they were worth a penny then, after that) ...
    -Yes, and even after that, something Lukashenka is quite loyal to Ukraine ... -No specific harsh statements about Ukraine ... -So, in the general stream he spoke a little at the same time when he spoke about Poland, Lithuania, etc. .. -But Lithuania and Poland did not set him up like that; namely Ukraine ... -Yes., it is clear that Lukashenka's "love" for Ukraine cannot be exterminated ... -they are ready to forgive her everything ...
  38. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 20 August 2020 22: 57 New
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    Didn't work badly