AK-19: "Kalashnikov" presented a new assault rifle chambered for NATO standard

Concern Kalashnikov has developed a new AK-19 assault rifle. It is going to be presented at the Army-2020 forum, which will be held on August 23-29, 2020.

So far, the AK-19 has the status of an experimental machine gun. It is based on the AK-12 assault rifle, but uses a 5,56 mm NATO caliber. Recall that the AK-12 assault rifle was developed within the framework of the Ratnik program for the future equipment of the Russian army. At the end of 2018, he was put into service. However, the AK-12 has a 5,45 mm caliber, not 5,56 mm like the AK-19.

Among other features of the AK-19, the presence of a lightweight telescopic stock, a new rear sight, a slotted flash suppressor with the ability to quickly mount a silencer is distinguished. The barrel length of the new assault rifle is 415 mm, weight is 3,3 kilograms.

By the way, the AK-19 is not the only Russian weapon, adapted for the cartridge used by the armies of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance. Thus, the RPK-16 light machine gun, the AK-12K and AK-15K experimental assault rifles, which are shortened versions of the AK-12 and AK-15, respectively, are adapted for the NATO patron.

So far, there is little information about the AK-19. In the expert community and among people interested in weapons topics, disputes have already begun about the future of the new machine. In particular, people are trying to answer the question of why the Russian army needed a weapon specially adapted for the patronage of the NATO standard. Of course, the most "patriotic" and widespread version is that trophy cartridges do not disappear in the event of a conflict with a potential enemy.

But a more realistic version looks like a possible attempt by Kalashnikov to strengthen its position in the global arms market, especially in Eastern Europe. After all, AKs are still in service with many armies of states that were once part of the Warsaw Pact Organization. For the Romanian, Hungarian, Bulgarian and other Eastern European military, the Kalashnikov assault rifle is a familiar weapon, and if it is also adapted for firing NATO standard cartridges, it is just wonderful. Work for competitiveness.

In any case, while we can only follow the news in the world of domestic small arms and wait for the "Army 2020" forum, where representatives of the concern will talk in more detail about the new machine.

Comments

[aszzz888]

For Romanian, Hungarian, Bulgarianx and other Eastern European military men, the Kalashnikov assault rifle is a familiar weapon, and if it is also adapted for firing with NATO standard cartridges, it's just wonderful.

Deep doubts that these countries will buy a shooter from us. They have NATO according to the standard, and the owner will not allow - he will sell his own. Just through third hands, but you can still see where the weapons were made.

[The leader of the Redskins]

If you also consider that the same Bulgaria and Poland have been producing AKs in 5.56 caliber for a long time, and with many upgrades and improvements, then I have little idea what fighting qualities and how low the price this machine should have in order to find its buyer in Eastern Europe. ..

[aszzz888]

Chief of the Redskins (Nazarius)
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If you also consider that the same Bulgaria and Poland have been producing AKs in 5.56 caliber for a long time, and with many upgrades and improvements, then I have little idea what fighting qualities and how low the price this machine should have in order to find its buyer in Eastern Europe. ..

It is very difficult to break into this niche.

[orionvitt]

Quote: aszzz888

It is very difficult to break into this niche

China back in the 70s and 60s, flooded the market (especially the American), with its copies of the AK, specifically for NATO ammunition (although the quality was Chinese, those years). So the topic is not new at all. True, this applies to the civilian arms market.

[SARANCHA1976]

Well, yes, the Bulgarian AK and the Nevada arsenal love operatives and contractors, go there .. but who will. And so, in fact, nothing, all "innovations" are bought without problems, putting the whale in its regular places is not a problem, and often the quality and convenience are higher. Just ak12 at 5.56 what's new dreamers

[Private-K]

Bulgaria in the 1980s, the USSR presented a package of all design and technological documentation for an almost complete line of Soviet small arms: all AK, all RPK, SVD, PK and PKM, NSV-12,7, SPG-9, RPG-7 (and shots to them), GP-25, AGS-17 ... And even helped to establish production. Everything is for nothing. So the Bulgarian Arsenal plant, now, is a direct competitor of the Russian Federation in the shooter market in the world.
Poland is on her own mind, as usual. And she has her own production.
Czech Republic is understandable.
Romania is also its own production.
Serbia is also its own production.
I don't know about Mongolia ...
And Hungary, they strongly oppose the West even on an ideological basis (they drove out and banned the sorosyat, do not accept migrants-southerners, do not promote LGBT people, against militant femco-man-hatred ... These can buy. True, the needs are very small.
But besides the post-Soviet countries, there are also others interested in relatively inexpensive, but reliable weapons from a brand manufacturer.
By the way, there is also a civil shooter market! And it is not worth dumping it from the accounts. There, a new AK at 5,56 can successfully frolic - for Brand (tm).

[ssergey1978]

The Hungarians themselves produced at least copies of the AK under the name AMD65

[Interlocutor]

Deep doubts request that these countries will buy a shooter from us. They have NATO according to the standard, and the owner will not allow - he will sell his own. Just through third hands, but you can still see where the weapons were made.

YES You are right. They will be in both pockets. KATT My friend. As the Colt will remain a Colt, so will the Kalashnikovs. Mers can be collected with us, but a German will always remain a German. So it is here.

[ssergey1978]

Who wrote this? Romanians, Hungarians, Bulgarians themselves produced and carry out AK. As far as I know AK of the hundredth series did not go chambered for 5.56. This cartridge was used in the civilian SAIGA MK.

[Kerensky]

Maybe they want to support someone behind the cordon. Then you don't need a lot of them. And if you need it, you already have a technical equipment. You can expand production.

[Interlocutor]

Maybe they want to support someone behind the cordon. Then you don't need a lot of them. And if you need it, you already have a technical equipment. You can expand production.

I think this is a niche market. It must be captured. There is also a barrel without a bottom.

[ssergey1978]

The saga for this cartridge has been produced for 25-30 years already, there is equipment and there are AK 100 x models

[tralflot1832]

I read the comments of the shooters. There is only a "patriotic" version. Question: Will the paratrooper jump with a steamer with two assault rifles of different caliber?

[Doliva63]

Quote: tralflot1832

I read the comments of the shooters. There is only a "patriotic" version. Question: Will the paratrooper jump with a steamer with two assault rifles of different caliber?

A cargo container is attached to the medium-static paratrooper, so - at least with 4 machine guns Only now - ....., in the sense, why ?!

[Hydrography Bay Golden Horn]

Between us, the machine gun is not stupid, but AEK was not accepted because of corruption

[Catfish]

AEK was not accepted because of corruption

From what?

[Wwk7260]

corruption or not, but AK12 was lobbied by D.O.Rogozin, who was in charge of the military-industrial complex at that time, and who had a hand in the creation of the Kalashnikov concern, whose achievements are very dubious. I recall electric motorcycles, some robots' projectors and unclaimed air defense systems.

[Dim61]

Most likely, the "effective managers" KK simply blinded another wunderwaffe with minimal design costs, but in the trend of the global weapon fashion. You need to show something at the exhibition.

[Zaurbek]

AK 12 is what the Finns and Israel did long ago with AK .... and it had to be done. 5,56m is most likely for Asian clients like India. If the base has worked out, why not produce it in different calibers? There the 5,56 machine gun can be made with a drum. And version 7,62x51.

[Alexander Drobyshev]

Good day. AK-19 (5,56x45 mm) is just a continuation of the development of export AK-400 (7,62x39 mm) and AK-308 (7,62x51 mm). This line of machines is aimed at buyers from Southeast Asia. In the photo AK-400

and AK-308

[good]

The so-called AK-400 is just a prototype.
As a result, AK15 (7,62x39) and AK12 (5,45x39) were put into service and are serially produced, and in the catalog the KK has nothing with an index 400.
AK19 (5,56x45) is clearly created on the basis of the serial AK12, since the AK101 has already worked out a reliable ammunition supply for NATO ammunition with its own magazine, and the same reliable as all AKs.

[Alexander Drobyshev]

What directory do you mean? On the website of the concern or export? If anything, then in the open catalog of the concern there is also neither the AK-200 nor the AK-308 series, but nevertheless the AK-203 chambered for 7,62x39 mm is supplied to India. At the time of the tests of the AK-12 (5,45x39) in 2016 -2017, there were export AK-400 under 5,45x39 mm and 7,62x39 mm, as well as a mock-up of the AK-15 concept under 5,45x39 mm, which were transported to exhibitions

... Now, since it makes no sense to produce two almost identical series, the export AK-400 has been replaced by the updated AK-12 series: AK-12 (5,45x39), AK-12K (5,45x39), AK-15 (7,62x39), AK-15K (7,62x39), AK-308 (7,62x51) and AK-19 (5,56x45), the main difference of which from the AK-400 is a redesigned bolt carrier that is not compatible with the AK-74M. But if the customer is impatient with the AK-400, the concern will give it out on a silver platter.

[Mountain shooter]

A very common cartridge. Accordingly - cheap. The power is slightly higher than 5.45x39. May be popular in the civilian market, even in the United States, if sanctions are lifted. In general, it is good for sabotage groups and reconnaissance - you can always get hold of ammunition from a potential enemy ... In order not to crawl from the MP-40 into reconnaissance, not like during the Second World War. At the end of the war you went with the PPS, but before that?

[frizzy]

Give two ....

[Bagatur]

In addition to Bulgaria, all of Eastern Europe has already changed the AK. Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia- Cz, Poland, the Baltic States to Germany and the USA, Rumania to the Beretta ARX 160 ... Serbia has its own M 19 chambered for 6,5x39 ...

[uav80]

Still, shops of the NATO standard could be digested for export without any problems talking ...

[kytx]

With a receiver for NATO stores, this will be a completely different weapon.
fundamentally different

[Alexander Drobyshev]

Well, in the USA, a receiver for shops from AR-15 and on a regular "Saiga-MK .223" was installed, in the photo AK-15 from Krebs Custom, nothing fundamentally different.

[SARANCHA1976]

In fact, the same "banana" only a side view. If the receiver was fixed up for NATO stores, then there were more chances and interest. And so .. a new rear sight-flash suppressor .. this is a breakthrough! While there is not a lot of information saying .. so the same thing

[good]

Not everything is so simple with the replacement of the mine and the use of AR stores in Kalash. Your own magazine for 223 in the AK system works more reliably and does not require more expensive modifications to the box and liner, and the mine is not needed.
In the SR-1, they have already tried to attach a shaft for AR magazines and a shutter delay device, which somehow did not work out very well.
It works with its own shop as reliably as its own 5.45.

[good]

All you need to do is wait for the exhibition and ask a question to the representatives of the concern and not engage in fortune-telling.

To begin with, you should pay attention to the fact that there is no cut-off in two, which means definitely not for the RF Ministry of Defense.
In addition to European non-brothers, NATO ammunition is also used in Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, South and Central America and all sorts of islands.
With the first production batches, a civilian version (possibly called TR-4) with a thicker barrel and a trigger without auto-fire will appear on the domestic market, and then a sports version for "practical shooting".

One way or another, samples based on the AK-47 and AK-74 will be gradually removed from mass production and replaced with newer ones.
AK-101 and Saiga-MK 223 will be supplemented with samples unified with the current AK-12.
Absolutely normal manufacturer's move.

[good]

Quote: Zaurbek

AK 12 is what the Finns and Israel did long ago with AK .... and it had to be done. 5,56m is most likely for Asian clients like India. If the base has worked out, why not produce it in different calibers? There the 5,56 machine gun can be made with a drum. And version 7,62x51.

What the Jews did is suitable only for the civilian market and does not meet the requirements of the RF Ministry of Defense, the Finns have almost the same crap.
AK12 / 15/19/308 will have more interesting technical solutions for improving classic Kalash. RPK-16 will still be altered and the index in the series will be some other

[cat Rusich]

AK-19 needs to be promoted to South and Central America, countries in Africa and Asia that use the NATO standard for 5,56x45mm cartridges.

[Maxwrx]

NATO, it seems, is going to gradually switch to 6,5. Would Do for the future

[good]

Quote: Alexander Drobyshev

What directory do you mean? On the website of the concern or export? If anything, then in the open catalog of the concern there is also neither the AK-200 nor the AK-308 series, but nevertheless the AK-203 chambered for 7,62x39 mm is supplied to India. At the time of the tests of the AK-12 (5,45x39) in 2016 -2017, there were export AK-400 under 5,45x39 mm and 7,62x39 mm, as well as a mock-up of the AK-15 concept under 5,45x39 mm, which were transported to exhibitions

... Now, since it makes no sense to produce two almost identical series, the export AK-400 has been replaced by the updated AK-12 series: AK-12 (5,45x39), AK-15 (7,62x39), AK-308 (7,62x51) and AK-19 (5,56x45), the main difference of which from the AK-400 is a redesigned bolt carrier that is not compatible with the AK-74M. But if the customer is impatient with the AK-400, the concern will give it out on a silver platter.

The fact of the matter is that they carried the concepts and accepted and put on the conveyor what they are riveting now and will not return to the exhibition models when there are serial products that do not require doping.

The slide frames for the serial AK12 and all others based on the Izhevsk AK74M are the same.
Why change something that has been working for almost half a century without any complaints? :)
In the articles there are some deaf telephones.

The catalog should be viewed from Rosoboronexport.
There are now only 12, 15, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205 and the hundredth series, including AK74M.
And there is no 308, no one has bought it yet and they are not mass-produced, but they can, the civilian has been worked out.
The entire 200th series is the 100th, only with strips on the lid and on the forend, and now they still hang stocks, handles and new magazines from AK12 / 15 on everything.
And it seems like the Indians themselves gathered to collect as Venezuela.

[Alexander Drobyshev]

With all the external similarity, the AK bolt carrier arr. 1947, AKM / AK-74, AK-74M (AK-100; 200; 400) and AK-12/15 are structurally different. For example, in an effort to stabilize the weapon in the horizontal plane when conducting automatic fire, the AKM bolt carrier was changed so that the strike on the bolt when it was closed was not on the right side (AK), but on the left, the AK-74M bolt carrier was made multi-caliber, in the AK- 12/15, the accuracy of fire was improved due to the shift in the mass of the bolt group, it was redesigned in CAD and is not compatible with the AK-74M. The open catalog of Rosoboronexport is incomplete, it does not contain the A-545 and A-762 machine guns, there are no RPK-16 machine guns, there are quite a few things that are not there, but there are PM pistols ... And neither you nor I will be able to get access to the closed catalogs of Rosoboronexport and the Kalashnikov concern, which are used to order large quantities of weapons. A plant for the production of AK-203 was built in India, and a plant for the production of AK-103 in Venezuela. Quite the opposite, the AK-12/15 received a body kit from the AK-200 and AK-400, which was a variant of the 2015 KM-AK Kit.

[good]

go to the store, disassemble the cp and see how the bolt group should be
accuracy was improved primarily due to the refinement of the gas engine and dtk units. the tube is fixed in a completely different way, it is welded to the liner and does not touch the gas block fixed on the barrel and the forend does not touch either the barrel or the tube, plus the dtk was modified and made a little more efficient
and the ramrod was removed from under the barrel into a pencil case, too, for the sake of improving accuracy
if the piston had been pushed back, then a completely suspended barrel would have turned out :)
but this is not a sport, reliability is more important

[Alexander Drobyshev]

Good afternoon. I took it apart as soon as it went on sale. I can advise you the same thing, just take a caliper with you and disassemble for comparison two cs - AK-12 and AK-74M and measure them. In addition, if the Kalashnikov concern itself says that the AK-12 mod. Since 2018 is a combination of the AK-400 model of 2016 with a bolt carrier from the experienced AK-12 in 2015, redesigned in CAD and not compatible with the AK-74M, I see no reason not to believe them.

[good]

In QC, everything is now developed in digital form and for this you do not need to invent and recalculate everything for a new one from scratch, it is enough to digitize what is available and finish drawing what is needed.
The power supply is the same.
Gas engine with the same parameters, the same diameter and the same piston stroke. The shutter is similar with three stops.
The box is generally the same (other liners and nuances of fixing the butt and forend), the 74M bolt carrier fits perfectly in the box and the piston is in the gas tube and goes into the AK12 gas block in the same dimensions.
It is impossible to noticeably redistribute the mass of the bolt group, even if there are some nuances. Everything is plus or minus too, even the return mechanism differs only in the heel. The spring is the same.
The bolt group was left almost unchanged.

And Wikipedia and articles in the grid with links to some unnamed sources should not be taken on faith.

[Alexander Drobyshev]

Good afternoon. I don't want to offend you with something, but where did you see THREE (???) combat stops on the AK bolt, there were always two of them, only on models for rifle cartridges there are three of them. I also wanted to clarify, did you compare the layouts of the AK-74M / AK-12, the hunting Saigu-MK 5,45 isp.30 / TR-3 5,45 or the combat AK-74M / AK-12? Do not consider this an evasion, just how we assemble the models from us is probably known to everyone, parts from another model can also be added, besides, there are imitators of gas pistons (at least that was the case on those that I disassembled). I don't always trust Wikipedia very much. Here is an article on Kalashnikov-Media, which mentions that the modern AK-12 is an AK-400 that has passed military tests (https://kalashnikov.media/question/pochemu-otkazalis-ot-ak-12-obr-2015-goda -ili-2012-goda), I haven't found a mention of the revision and incompatibility yet, I don't remember in which article I came across.

[good]

I didn’t mean layouts, but wrote about SP
There are no reliefs and the geometry is the same
But the bolt carrier of the competitive AK12, which did not go into the series, was really facilitated and it really is not compatible in any way.

The real improvements of the serial AK12 were obtained not due to the bolt group, but due to other more effective changes.

For a mistake about three stops, I apologize, now I can't fix it, the site won't give

[Alexander Drobyshev]

Good day. I fully admit that the article, where there was a mention of incompatibility, was based on inaccurate information about the early AK-12 model and I was wrong.

[good]

In fact, they took the 200th series as a basis and reworked it more deeply. Not just the slats were attached and not just serially began to produce 74m with a kit of modernization, but they finalized the construct giving improvements.

The TR-3 was generally unified as much as possible, even the barrels from one workpiece from 7.62, therefore the 5.45 has thick barrels.
It is likely that TR-3 223rem will be made from the same blanks.

And the DTK of AK19 is very similar to the one that is screwed onto short AK12K

In fact, in the near future it will be possible to curtail the release of the 100th and even 200th series.
Almost the entire line has already been mastered.
Plus, the new machine gun is already being sharpened at 5,45 on a new platform instead of the RPK-16, which somehow did not go to the military.
Want tape 5,45.
And judging by the pictures, the construct is significantly different from the classic PKK.

[Alexander Drobyshev]

I agree with you, the Kalashnikov concern simply reduces the range it produces, offering more advanced models to the market. I would not be surprised if soon there are models chambered for 6,5x39 mm Grendel and .300 AAC Blackout (7,62x35 mm) cartridges, which are produced at the Barnaul Cartridge Plant.

[Split]

Quote: Author

However, the AK-12 has a 5,45 mm caliber, not 5,56 mm

The caliber is the same! The cartridges are different, it's just that we are grooved, and they are in the fields, the only difference is in the sleeve + - the tolerances for the bullet diameter! The caliber is the diameter of the barrel, not the cartridge itself. Caliber 12,7 is ours and theirs, for example, is the same, but the cartridges are different

[uav80]

The nominal diameter of the bullets is 5,68mm for the M74 cartridge and 5,7mm for the M193 cartridge ... in principle, the same barrels should be digested by both thouls if the 5,45 bullet is reloaded into the 223 sleeve and vice versa ...
The same theme with 7,62 and other 30 calibers, the M43 has a 7,92mm bullet and the 308Win has a 7,85mm bullet. For example, barrels for 308, etc., normally digest cartridges assembled from AKS subsonic because, on the domestic market there is no subsonic for 308 yet (in August they wanted to start production), but 7,62 * 39 already exists ..

[uav80]

There were 101, 102, 108 under .223 and nafig they can't cut it to anyone ...

[Chever]

Probably for export, to replace the AK-101

[About 2]

The author of the AK 101,102 and 201 assault rifles are chambered for 5,56x45 NATO

[good]

Quote: Alexander Drobyshev

I would not be surprised if soon there are models chambered for 6,5x39 mm Grendel and .300 AAC Blackout (7,62x35 mm) cartridges, which are produced at the Barnaul Cartridge Plant.

this will most likely not be in the TR-3 line, these Kalashs are based on military high-volume models
hunting, too, only in the most popular calibers do
and Lancaster and the paradox were mastered only for the sake of the domestic market

but if they accept and begin to massively stamp weapons under 6.8, maybe they will do it and then not immediately