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I went to lay flowers not to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War, but to the ATO participants: on the visit of the British Minister to Kiev

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A delegation from the British Ministry of Defense headed by Minister Ben Wallace has arrived in Ukraine. As noted by the British side, the visit is associated "with deepening contacts between the United Kingdom and Ukraine in the security sphere, including in the format of Ukraine's partnership with NATO."


It is stated that the purpose of the visit is "to demonstrate military-political support for Ukraine, as well as to study aspects of the implementation of the Ukrainian-British agreements in the defense industry."

Earlier in the media it was reported that Ukraine could be supplied with weapons that were already in use by the British army - on the same principle as the United States sends Ukraine its decommissioned boats.

Ben Wallace and his Ukrainian colleague Andrey Taran took part in the ceremony of laying flowers at the memorial to the Ukrainian servicemen who died during the military operation in Donbass - to the stele with a bell.

It is noteworthy that for some time now foreign delegations in Ukraine have been laying flowers and wreaths either at this monument or at the memorial to the victims of the so-called "Holodomor". The laying of wreaths and flowers at the monuments to the soldiers who liberated the Ukrainian land from Nazism during the Great Patriotic War (WWII) is usually not provided. This fact speaks volumes: it is more important for NATO partners to focus on ATO (OOS) than on the Great Patriotic War. In turn, this once again emphasizes that the West is interested in the civil war in Ukraine - near the borders of Russia - not ending. As confirmation: discussion of arms supplies for the Ukrainian army.
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  1. bulava
    bulava 18 August 2020 12: 53 New
    18
    Well, lads at attention, the master-owner has arrived
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 18 August 2020 13: 34 New
      +5
      And why did British military emissaries come to Ukraine right now, when in Belarus, a neighboring country to Ukraine, just now foreign special services staged a Belarusian Maidan on the occasion of the presidential elections with the aim of the local STATE REVOLUTION and when organized thugs are rampaging there?

      The West is not only interested in the fact that the civil war in Ukraine - near the borders of Russia - does not end, but that it only expands to other countries - in the same Republic of Belarus, for example.

      Ministry of Internal Affairs - officially on August 14, 2020
      Head of the Department for the Protection of Law and Order, GUOPP MOB MIA
      police colonel Dmitry Kuryan
      1. bulava
        bulava 18 August 2020 13: 51 New
        +8
        The West is not only interested in the fact that the civil war in Ukraine - near the borders of Russia - does not end, but that it only expands to other countries - in the same Republic of Belarus, for example.


        I agree completely. They already had a call through Azerbaijan - it didn't work out. Now fate has presented them with a "gift" in the form of Belarus. Moreover, they very successfully provoked both the authorities and the common people of the Republic of Belarus. The first completely clumsy worked out the rallies and unrest, while the second point-blank did not see that they were simply framed under the OMON truncheons, played off with ordinary peasants, with the police.
        Now the curators have forgotten about the rallies and turned to targeted strikes - industrial strikes, the buildup of doctors, the intelligentsia. They want an economic crisis, a collapse, they want to sow discord and hatred in society. Constantly there are stuffing about the columns of tanks moving from the east. In general, a very difficult situation. A year ago, in a nightmare, this would not have dreamed that there would be a risk of getting a NATO base 5 hours away from Moscow.
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 18 August 2020 13: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: bulava
          A year ago, in a nightmare, this would not have dreamed that there would be a risk of getting a NATO base 5 hours away from Moscow.

          There is no such risk. There is only the fevered imagination of the Anglo-Saxons.
          1. credo
            credo 18 August 2020 14: 22 New
            +6
            Quote: Sergey39
            Quote: bulava
            A year ago, in a nightmare, this would not have dreamed that there would be a risk of getting a NATO base 5 hours away from Moscow.

            There is no such risk. There is only the fevered imagination of the Anglo-Saxons.

            How do you get such confidence?
            Who would have thought in the USSR that the NATO bloc would stand at the doorstep of Leningrad (now St. Petersburg), but it is already there.
            If in Belarus the opposition bloc now hastily put together under the leadership of a housewife gains the upper hand, then NATO troops will definitely be deployed on the territory of Belarus, just 5 hours away from Moscow.
            Tikhanovskaya is the same "chick" as the "calf" Zelensky, so all moves of the west are calculated in advance.
            1. Sergey39
              Sergey39 18 August 2020 18: 30 New
              0
              Quote: credo
              all moves of the west are calculated in advance.

              This is precisely why they will fail. An asymmetric answer will be given to a patterned move.
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 18 August 2020 14: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: bulava
          risk of getting a NATO base 5 hours away from Moscow

          Rather there will be a "second" Crimea than a NATO base. And that's enough. Some indulged in "independence", dabbled wherever possible, proved the complete incapacity of "independent states", shed blood already immeasurably, it's time for the Slavs to go back home, to a single state. Those who stand up for Bandera, or different Ostrovskys there, can be sent to Poland, or to Kolyma. The choice. I personally favor the second option.
          1. Grits
            Grits 18 August 2020 16: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: orionvitt
            Rather, there will be a "second" Crimea than a NATO base.

            Interestingly, in which region will the "second Crimea" appear? Will not appear. Unfortunately, we have to admit that in all respects we are losing the battle for our former republics to the Americans. And we are losing almost dry and in our own field.
            And the whole point is cowardice and unfinished business. this was the case in Georgia in 2008, it was so in Ukraine in 2014, and it will most likely be the same in Belarus in 2020. The cowardice of our leadership is our main enemy.
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 18 August 2020 16: 36 New
              0
              Wait, it's not evening yet. As O. Bender used to say, "only cats will be born quickly." "In a hurry, you will make people laugh." Etc. Yes, there was a slack in the 90s, a bad legacy, we lost on some fronts. But the war is not over yet. If it seems to you that everything is already, skiff, legs up, then you are mistaken.
      2. Mamuka Petrovich
        Mamuka Petrovich 18 August 2020 15: 02 New
        +5
        The West is not only interested in the fact that the civil war in Ukraine - near the borders of Russia - does not end, but that it only expands to other countries - in the same Republic of Belarus

        The West needs a belt of tension and instability along the entire border of Russia. Next in line is Kazakhstan.
  2. Woodman
    Woodman 18 August 2020 12: 53 New
    +3
    The laying of wreaths and flowers at the monuments to the soldiers who liberated the Ukrainian land from Nazism during the Great Patriotic War (WWII) is usually not provided.
    Have come ...
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 August 2020 12: 55 New
    +6
    The laying of wreaths and flowers at the monuments to the soldiers who liberated the Ukrainian land from Nazism during the Great Patriotic War (WWII) is usually not provided.

    I'm not surprised at what is happening in Ukraine. And I would not be surprised if they begin to lay wreaths and flowers on the Nazis who died on the territory of Ukraine.
    1. Charik
      Charik 18 August 2020 13: 07 New
      +4
      so in Europe they worship those who died for the fascists-Ukraine-tse Europe
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 August 2020 14: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Charik
        so in Europe they worship those who died for the fascists-Ukraine-tse Europe

        You are right, "with whom you will lead ..."
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 18 August 2020 13: 13 New
      +2
      wreaths and flowers, to the Nazis

      See you soon.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 August 2020 15: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        See you soon.

        Well, this has already been seen in the village of Vorzele near Kiev ..

        Yes, the Ukrainian expert Alexander Dubinsky has already suggested erecting a monument to Adolf instead of the Vatutin monument.
    3. beeper
      beeper 18 August 2020 13: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      The laying of wreaths and flowers at the monuments to the soldiers who liberated the Ukrainian land from Nazism during the Great Patriotic War (WWII) is usually not provided.

      I'm not surprised at what is happening in Ukraine. And I would not be surprised if they begin to lay wreaths and flowers on the Nazis who died on the territory of Ukraine.

      Already they impose-to the Nazis from the SS "Galicia"!
      The rank-and-file Nazi SSmen were volunteers-galitsai, “untermenschs,” who swore allegiance to the Reichsfuehrer of the “ubermen”, and they were commanded by the German gentlemen, “ubermen”!
      The current Banderlogists are very proud of this and want the Fashington "common people" to command them too, their voluntary slaves! fool
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 August 2020 15: 10 New
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        Quote: pishchak
        Already they are laying the "Galicia" on the Nazis from the SS!

        But to their chagrin, only a German could be in the SS, and these henchmen and dogs were only "Waffen".
        1. beeper
          beeper 18 August 2020 16: 04 New
          -1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: pishchak
          Already they are laying the "Galicia" on the Nazis from the SS!

          But to their chagrin, only a German could be in the SS, and these henchmen and dogs were only "Waffen".

          Their "afflictions" are innumerable, because the Fashington "common people" do not consider their henchmen Banderlog equal to themselves, only "subhuman" and only "Waffen fleisch" ?! wassat
          For example, the leader of the Ameroreich-Barack Obama, in the spring of 2014, after the "show" arranged for him by the feeble-minded "Euromaidan Fuhrer" who came to him for a "label on the board" in the unmasked "Ukraine", contemptuously called these "w / Bandera" lackeys " fabulous idiots "... his replacement at the post of Amerofuehrer - D. Trump, in the same way, very masterly, treated the" young w / Bandera "Ze, who happily flew to him" for a conversation "... winked
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 18 August 2020 17: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: pishchak
            For example, the leader of the Ameroreih - B. Obama,

            That the leader is yes, but also with the prefix "waffen".
            But Donya, he certainly spoke through his lip with another "Waffen"
            1. beeper
              beeper 18 August 2020 19: 18 New
              -1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: pishchak
              For example, the leader of the Ameroreih - B. Obama,

              That the leader is yes, but also with the prefix "waffen".
              But Donya, he certainly spoke through his lip with another "Waffen"

              hi Well, yes, indeed, Doni is a "protein", but Barak is not!
              About the eternal American racism and despicable (and now "cute" and "vital", how long will this fashionable "trend of kissing black boots and washing tanned feet" did not take into account, thanks for the clarification! good
              According to our minuses, I see that "Banderlogists," offenders "have been here and have already read the unpleasant truth about themselves, and this is good! yes
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 18 August 2020 20: 07 New
                +2
                Quote: pishchak
                According to our minuses, I see that "Banderlogists," offenders "have been here and have already read the unpleasant truth about themselves, and this is good!

                I like it when the "Soros" are offended, which means I have served my working day for a reason.
  4. Asad
    Asad 18 August 2020 12: 57 New
    +6
    And why are there such ,, news ,,? Personally, I have not been interested in the freaks of the Natsiks with their owners for a long time! Don't touch real monuments! And at the Holodomor, even choke on bacon!
  5. taiga2018
    taiga2018 18 August 2020 12: 57 New
    +5
    Who can be surprised by this ...
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 18 August 2020 13: 04 New
    +5
    In turn, this once again emphasizes that the West is interested in the civil war in Ukraine - near the borders of Russia - not ending. As confirmation: discussion of arms supplies for the Ukrainian army.
    .... War is the nurse smile
  7. prior
    prior 18 August 2020 13: 07 New
    +8
    The event, of course, with a taint, but still I wonder who in monetary terms supplies Ukraine more,
    British decommissioned weapons or Russian oil products?
    And who is the friend and who is the enemy? How can a simple peasant figure it out?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 18 August 2020 13: 15 New
      +2
      Is it for money or in the form of humanitarian aid?
  8. itis
    itis 18 August 2020 13: 11 New
    -1
    and how ... to show certain Belarusians what kind of guests will come (oh, they will naturally "receive" them)
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 August 2020 13: 16 New
    0
    He does not think before. It will be necessary to negotiate about the arrangement of peace not with Ukraine, but with Russia. We do not remember evil, but the sediment remained. fool
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 18 August 2020 13: 21 New
    +4

    Right ! A delegation from the British Ministry of Defense led by Minister Ben Wallace was brought to the monument to Sashko Bilom. A bright personality, a revolutionary, an outstanding organizer!
    They brought me to the monument to the "heroes" of the OUN-UPA (an organization whose activities are prohibited in the Russian Federation) at the Sambor Jewish cemetery.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 August 2020 17: 18 New
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      They brought me to the monument to the "heroes" of the OUN-UPA (an organization whose activities are prohibited in the Russian Federation) at the Sambor Jewish cemetery.

      Well, at least not to Babi Yar. You can expect everything from them.
  11. Lumpen
    Lumpen 18 August 2020 13: 22 New
    -4
    About nothing. Where is without Ukraine?
    Then they would have already written that another agreement within the framework of the CIS "On Trade Representations" of 1992 was broken
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 18 August 2020 13: 50 New
      -1
      Quote: Lumpen
      Then they would have already written that another agreement within the framework of the CIS "On Trade Representations" of 1992 was broken

      You write this, why evil grandmother Freeze Russian ears laughing
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 August 2020 13: 33 New
    0
    There is also a bell in a good bar in Antwerp. I rang it and the bar closes and the caller pays all the expenses of the customers who are at that moment in the bar until it finally closes. Sachs probably did not ring, he probably knows this rule. drinks
  13. Wolf
    Wolf 18 August 2020 13: 33 New
    -5
    The unifying factor of the masses during the collapse of the USSR in the outskirts was the slogan:
    Ukraine to feed Rusiu, and the people as a people are easily deceived.
    Today the factor uniting for the people is "Holodomor" and the ATO, or already in a vazal country, economically destroyed and under a huge debt, which is heading towards Nazi Ukraine from the Second World War, which served Hitler.
    But HOLODOMER'S MONUMENTS SHOULD BE ALL OVER THE REPUBLIC OF THE FORMER USSR !!! THE PEOPLE DIED ONE KIEV TO KAMCHATKA !!!
    AND THE HOLODOMOR WASN'T BY ACCIDENT, BUT THE ACTION IS PLANNED !!!
    1. prior
      prior 18 August 2020 14: 28 New
      -3
      Bulgarians are to blame for the famine in Ukraine. Brothers did not help khakhlam. Clutching help.
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 18 August 2020 14: 49 New
          -1
          But Bulgaria did not have then Bulgaria belonged to the Habsburgs. smile
          1. prior
            prior 18 August 2020 15: 06 New
            +2
            What are the Habsburgs in the 30s of the last century ?!
            And yet, study the question of the Holodomor better, brother, what and when it was, where it was and why, so as not to look stupid.
            1. Wolf
              Wolf 18 August 2020 15: 10 New
              0
              Books in the Hand are medicine. These 30 Years the King of Bulgaria was the Habsburg! wink
              1. Wolf
                Wolf 18 August 2020 15: 11 New
                +1
                Holodomor was all over the USSR, and not by chance !!!
                1. Wolf
                  Wolf 18 August 2020 15: 14 New
                  +1
                  As for the Holodomor, the Volga in Ukraine? There was also ice-eating because of hunger.
                2. prior
                  prior 18 August 2020 15: 30 New
                  -1
                  Hunger and famine are essentially different concepts. There was famine, and in many areas of the USSR. The reason is low productivity and weather conditions.
                  But claiming that it was organized is like claiming that the sun spots are due to the fact that Russia is an aggressive state.
                  You should not pass off what you want as valid.
                  1. Wolf
                    Wolf 18 August 2020 16: 01 New
                    0
                    So PRIOR COMMODITY RESERVES exist from the time of Old Egypt, which is 100% known, in fact, much earlier.
                    low yield and weather conditions just JUSTIFY!
                    THE WORLD GRAIN PRICE WAS DETERMINED IN NIZHNY NOVGOROD.
                    The state with the largest CHERNOZEM surface cannot be hungry if there is no well-planned action here! wink
                    1. prior
                      prior 18 August 2020 16: 42 New
                      0
                      He who does not want to hear will not hear
                      unwilling to see - will not see,
                      persuading a convinced person is a waste of work.
                      1. Wolf
                        Wolf 18 August 2020 17: 07 New
                        0
                        Good wisdom, but in fact, est facts and if a person sees them, he will begin to think, and then everything is possible.
                      2. Wolf
                        Wolf 18 August 2020 17: 25 New
                        0
                        You just need to put tables of grain production from 1914 to 1940. , as well as the amount of commodity grain reserves in this period, and then analysis of what and for what. The summer table is called Facts.
  14. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 August 2020 17: 20 New
    0
    Quote: Wolf
    AND THE HOLODOMOR WASN'T BY ACCIDENT, BUT THE ACTION IS PLANNED !!

    And a lot died that.
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 18 August 2020 17: 26 New
      0
      If we consider that on average the current of the Volga there were many cases of ice hockey!
  • Klingon
    Klingon 18 August 2020 13: 44 New
    +1
    Well, now they will send to Svidomo any waste trash that is expensive to dispose of wassat
  • ximkim
    ximkim 18 August 2020 14: 14 New
    +1
    The British Secretary of Defense is still visiting. Therefore, he is taken to the place where it is necessary to lay flowers and words ... The main thing is that such a guest does not come to Russia, but for such purposes ..
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 18 August 2020 14: 14 New
    +4
    The Museum of the British Occupation of Russia should be opened in every city where to talk about the concentration camp in Arkhangelsk
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 August 2020 17: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      The Museum of the British Occupation of Russia should be opened in every city where to talk about the concentration camp in Arkhangelsk

      On the island Mudyug, as you enter the Northern Dvina, it is clearly visible. And the tank Trophy MK stands on Vinogradov Square.
      1. hhhhhhh
        hhhhhhh 18 August 2020 22: 38 New
        +1
        So it should be reminded at Sheremetyevo. Let them fall to their knees for the genocide of the Russians.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 18 August 2020 14: 56 New
    +1
    What's so surprising? This frostbitten Nazi-Bandera scum for the British and for the ESS is closer in spirit than those who broke the back of the Hitler. If the demoniac had not climbed to England, the British would have kissed his soles until the very end.
  • begemot20091
    begemot20091 18 August 2020 16: 01 New
    0
    Quote: credo
    If in Belarus the opposition bloc now hastily put together under the leadership of a housewife gains the upper hand, then NATO troops will definitely be deployed on the territory of Belarus, just 5 hours away from Moscow.
    Tikhanovskaya is the same "chick" as the "calf" Zelensky, so all moves of the west are calculated in advance.

    looking at this ss-yk-uhu-housewife, one gets the impression that Europe will be satisfied with any vobla, if only there was a mess near the borders of Russia .. The horses are already straying into flocks. Soon we will change MAZ tractors for Urals. "Old Man" waddled on 2 chairs with one booty.
  • Alkonavt
    Alkonavt 18 August 2020 16: 30 New
    0
    Bandera, too, probably laid flowers .... Bandera, after all, was connected with British intelligence.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 18 August 2020 21: 12 New
    0
    The Nazis will not lay flowers at the monument to those who broke them. Germany in the 1930s rose exclusively through the efforts of the Naglo-Saxons. So why should the creators of Hitler now pay homage to those who dunked them in the toilet to the fullest? Of course, they put flowers to the last of that rabble of humanity.
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 19 August 2020 03: 50 New
    0
    These are indicators of our foreign policy! We solve global issues, and there is a mess around.
  • pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 19 August 2020 12: 27 New
    0
    Yes, and to hell with him and his queen, along with her cannibal husband ...
    Britannia - Die!
  • vavilon
    vavilon 20 August 2020 11: 54 New
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    Better not flowers to the graves, but checks to dead mothers, wives, children
    And they even learned to do PR from the graves
  • dobrik10
    dobrik10 20 August 2020 11: 58 New
    0
    sh..i, they don't have anything. As they were colonialists, they remained ...
  • kriten
    kriten 20 August 2020 12: 08 New
    0
    At least for excuses, they would be banned from entering Russia for life, for honoring murderers and terrorists. But the Kremlin won't have the courage.