Belarus at a crossroads. What's next?

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The rapidly developing events in Belarus, the massive public rejection of the Lukashenka regime and the interception of popular protests by Western countries and their Belarusian activists have put the country on the brink of serious tests. Lukashenka’s shortsighted policy with his cunning “multi-vector approach” worn out everyone in Belarus, Russia, and the West. The Belarusian society was excited, the “deep people” rebelled against the president, and the people's confidence cannot be restored to him. The president does not suit anyone, the “multi-vector approach” has suffered a crushing collapse, under any scenario Lukashenka will have to leave.

It would seem that he strove to build a welfare state, did everything for the people, did not allow the formation of an oligarchy and the plundering of the country, and the "ungrateful" people so unfairly push the long-standing head of state away from power. Lukashenka simply missed the moment when his struggle for the state turned into a struggle for individual and unlimited power. As a result, it became an obstacle in the further development of the state, as well as an “incapable of negotiation” element in the global confrontation between Russia and the West.



What forces operate in Belarus


He won the first round of confrontation and by force prevented an attempt by extremists to carry out a putsch, after which a delicate equilibrium ensued, which turned into a soft phase of “white maidan” and “lukamaidan”. Now Lukashenka is taking an exam for the right to rule the country, and the future of both Lukashenka and Belarus will depend on how this confrontation ends.

Both internal and external forces are involved in the events taking place. The sincere desire of the population to change society and improve its well-being, which was hampered by Lukashenka, was fueled and intercepted by Western experts on "color revolutions" together with the local opposition hired by them and aimed at destroying the state according to the Ukrainian scenario.

Who pursues what interests? Lukashenka seeks to preserve his power at any cost and is ready to make a deal both with the West and with Russia for this. The West, more precisely, the United States and their slander Poland, want Belarus to be separated from Russia, eliminate (including physical) Lukashenko, break up and plunder the state and turn it into its own colony on the model of Ukraine. Poland sees the possibility of reviving the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with the inclusion of Lithuania and Belarus. The opposition and a significant part of Lukashenka's entourage want to remove him, come to power under the "roof" of the West, and plunder the Soviet legacy preserved by the incumbent president. Russia by any means seeks to keep Belarus in its sphere of influence and to continue the construction of the union state.

Possible scenarios


In this situation, two scenarios are possible.

According to the first, Lukashenka may lose if a general strike starts, the power is paralyzed, his team starts to scatter and he will lose the levers of government, and hundreds of thousands of protesters will actually surround state institutions and demand his resignation. In this situation, no one and nothing will save him, only the flight from the country will remain. Without Lukashenko, Belarus will inevitably go to the West, since the pro-Russian elite is not there, he successfully cleaned it out during the years of his rule. Instead of Lukashenka, the Americans will try to bring Makei to power.

In this regard, the question arises of what to do for Russia, for which this will be the second geopolitical defeat after Ukraine. It is hardly possible to seriously talk about the introduction of Russian troops in this situation, the Russian leadership is well aware that this will not be accepted by the majority of the Belarusian society, and it is pointless to fight with society. The future of Belarus will be decided by Russia and the United States. Russia, in order not to suffer a catastrophic defeat, will try to agree on the removal of Lukashenko according to the Moldovan scenario of Plahotniuc and the coming to power of intermediate forces, in which Russia would have a controlling stake in Belarus, and the West would have a blocking stake. In this issue, Russia can be an ally of Germany, which seeks to prevent the strengthening of Poland and the formation of a loyal American vassal on its eastern border. How successful such negotiations will be, time will tell.

If Lukashenka remains in power


Under a favorable scenario, if Lukashenka remains in power, Russia will decide everything. She will need Lukashenka as a temporary measure to stabilize the situation, he remains in power for now, and for all his “eccentricities” he will be “explained” that he has only one way out - to voluntarily and gradually surrender power. He will have to immediately announce political reform and begin preparations for it.

With his participation, the preparation of a "transfer" of power begins, the purge of the pro-Western elite and NGOs, the provision of an opportunity for the pro-Russian forces to form a real political force and nominate their leaders, from which the formation of the pro-Russian elite will begin (there are more than enough such representatives in the current elite) with guarantees of its preservation. on the political Olympus.

Belarus will have to change politically, ideologically and economically. The information agenda in the republic, which Lukashenka lost talentlessly, must undergo serious changes. Through the leaders of public opinion, the media and social networks, instead of the ideas of "Lithuanianism", it will be necessary to promote the ideas of Russian unity and integration with Russia.

The political system should become more open and competitive with real political parties and the opposition, with the state ideology of historical Russian unity, an economic basis with the preservation of strategic industries in the hands of the state, freedom for medium and small businesses, more efficient state management of industry, real integration into the Russian economy without capture Russian structures of strategic industries and the imposition of Russian oligarchic capitalism.

It will be necessary to start an open dialogue with the Belarusian society and, in order to calm it down, preserve the state elements of social protection of the population that arose under Lukashenka. It is necessary to draw conclusions from his defeat and seriously work with the younger generation, which became the driving force behind his overthrow. Prevent the transformation of young people into zealous "Banderaites", explain the advantages of integration with Russia and the collapse of Belarus in the march to the West.

At the first stage, Russia, using its right to be one of the parties to the union treaty, can become an intermediary between Lukashenka and the opposition and moderate the ideas of integration of historically connected peoples that it needs. Further, there is a long process of treatment and education of the Belarusian society, the restoration of its Russian identity, and only then - a denser integration.

The solution of the Belarus issue is part of the strategy of ensuring the security of Russia from the most dangerous western direction. The issue can be resolved only if the Russian leadership does not flirt with the "eccentric" Lukashenko, but seriously tackles the issues of state integration in the interests of the Russian and Belarusian societies, otherwise Belarus will find itself where Ukraine is now.

If Lukashenka refuses such a scenario, he will face a prison in The Hague or liquidation, and the people of Belarus will face the unenviable fate of Polish slaves instead of the “prosperity” they expect in the European expanses.
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  1. +10
    19 August 2020 09: 07
    What does the article mean by the purge of the pro-Western elite?
    Who exactly do you mean?
    Officials or business?
    1. +16
      19 August 2020 09: 14
      Quote: Livonetc
      What does the article mean by the purge of the pro-Western elite?
      Who exactly do you mean?
      Officials or business?

      I think that both. But in general - "The winner of the dragon turns into a dragon." After all, I started so well, and then .... so I waited!
      Lord! Give wisdom and endurance to the Belarusian people, so as not to repeat the path of Ukraine !!!
      1. +18
        19 August 2020 09: 43
        Elena, are you really so naive that you think it's all about Lukashenka? Let's start with the little things. Why change the flag. Remember the Soviet Union first hung up the tricolor, then they put Gaidar and Chubais.
        If Lukashenka is fed up, why are these talks about privatization?
        And notice how the opponents of Russia calmed down, they are also the supporters of the West. Not a sound about panties and gilyak. But as soon as Lukashenka is thrown off, everyone will see who came to talk, down with the mustachioed tyrant.
        1. +12
          19 August 2020 09: 53
          Quote: Gardamir
          Elena, are you really so naive that you think it's all about Lukashenka?

          Of course not! But he had a GREAT CHANCE to preserve both the Soviet socialist heritage and to develop the republic further. He missed it.
          1. +1
            19 August 2020 10: 36
            What do you mean missed? factories and agricultural workers are working, people are not hungry on the streets.
            1. -1
              19 August 2020 19: 09
              Everything has its time. The Zmagars are still organizing their victory with total destruction, sale and theft, as in their brotherly Great Ukr anarchy.
        2. 0
          19 August 2020 17: 53
          ... I often disagreed with you, but not now ...
        3. +2
          20 August 2020 09: 20
          Frankly speaking, Belarus will have to go the way of Russia in the 90s and Ukraine now. The belief that "in Poland everyone lives in three-story houses" is too strong. Let them try to integrate with Europe. All heart-rending cries about "NATO's coming closer to Smolensk" are bullshit. If the Belarusians are negatively disposed towards Russia, they are not allies. In a mess, they will shoot in the back. Better to make a choice explicitly and decide. It will be visible there. Old Man said correctly - not fraternal relations, but partnerships. Those. everyone lives on their own and, first of all, observing their own interests.
          1. +1
            22 August 2020 17: 56
            There is no need to decide for the people of Belarus .... There are 89% of those who consider themselves Russian ... Will the Russians collude with the enemies of Russia and give this land to be torn apart by those who hate Russia?
        4. +1
          24 August 2020 10: 02
          The driving force behind this turmoil is officials, business executives, students, intelligentsia, and so on. dreaming of clamps around their neck. Part of the top elite, part of officials and business executives at the FIRST STAGE will win, then they will be gradually pushed away from the trough, then, most likely, either a trash can, or criminal prosecution for crimes together with the Arab League. Because those who come to power will tolerate them, only until they gain a foothold in power. Then everything will work according to the principle of ANY REVOLUTION, even a colored one, which always devours its children, as the French say. Well, I don’t even want to talk about the power structures, especially the commanding staff. Thrown out and will poison until they are crushed to the end. At best, they will end up as mercenaries in foreign PMCs, at worst, in complete poverty. All these are the general laws of coup d'etat or "color revolutions". There are no others and will never be. When Belarusians say that everything will be different for them, they are naive children.
      2. +5
        19 August 2020 11: 04
        Quote: Egoza
        Lord! Give wisdom and endurance to the Belarusian people, so as not to repeat the path of Ukraine !!!

        I support, wonderful wish.
      3. +2
        19 August 2020 11: 09
        Quote: Egoza
        Lord! Give wisdom and endurance to the Belarusian people, so as not to repeat the path of Ukraine !!!

        That's right!
        But ... a lot of work is required, because the average (peresichny? Ukrainian.) Citizen is that in Belarus, that everywhere does not have great wisdom ... For example, they yell and leave without thinking who will come and how it threatens those who are yelling.
        Or at protest rallies, not only in Belarus, presidents' hayat, etc., not in Stalinist times, you can do it quite safely! But they are afraid to speak out against specific owners, neighbors, so to speak, to demand higher wages, to bungle a strike, etc. As old as the world, the hope that the change of the king will put everything in its place.
        Drives asset. Lukashenka will be able to organize such an asset, even with our help, to direct the thoughts of the majority in the right direction, even if he neutralized the group of nationalist "Litvin" with the help of the security forces, and everything will be fine. Otherwise, an armed confrontation is possible, Belarus borders on Poland, etc., and on Russia, the people are also divided there, albeit not as pronounced as in Ukraine. Nobody believed in the war in Donbas in 2013 either.
      4. +1
        19 August 2020 12: 33
        Yes, sorry for the people, only peace will no longer be there. The capitalists have already grabbed the throat and will not let go. It's only about who will carry out the privatization (the United States, the European Union, Russia or China).
    2. 0
      19 August 2020 09: 14
      Is there any difference between these categories?)))
      1. +12
        19 August 2020 09: 24
        Big.
        Corrupt officials are just parasites.
        Businessmen bring income to the state and create jobs.
        You can certainly return to the era of new revolutions with the slogans "plunder the loot" and dispossession.
        But history has shown the dead end of this path
        Capitalism is of course a relic.
        However, pure communism does not work yet.
        China is a good example of the development of society at the moment.
    3. +5
      19 August 2020 09: 18
      Quote: Livonetc
      What does the article mean by the purge of the pro-Western elite?

      The leapfrog with the constant shaking up of the cabinet of ministers of Belarus by Lukashenko, led him to the fact that he himself raised the elite, which hates him, with his own hands. By the way, we have the same thirsty for Putin to start waving his sword and cultivate his opposition to him. They may not be about Western or Russian, but definitely against Lukashenka. No one could sit on two chairs. The lot of small states will always be under someone.
      1. -11
        19 August 2020 09: 29
        He made a mistake - it was necessary to crush these creatures from the very beginning. I know perfectly well "who" is holding a meeting there - entrepreneurial, chelnochnichevsky - "buy-sell" and non-profit organization-shny garbage, which was joined by workers of Minsk factories, who were told that Lukashenka personally does not allow raising wages, and as soon as we will remove him, then the salaries will be like in Germany, this is how you remember we like the "miners" for Yeltsin knocked helmets, well, and got through to the beggarly existence ... Luka needs to push all this and the sooner, the better and not look back at anyone. Crush! And faster!
        1. +5
          19 August 2020 09: 37
          Quote: Snail N9
          He made a mistake - you have to crush these creatures from the very beginning

          "Guns - the last argument of kings"

          People management is based on six priorities. If the battle is lost on the highest priorities, then the hope for the power option will not lead to the desired result. Short-term success is possible, but the consequences of this success will be even worse.

          First thought, then action. As we think and act. As we act, so we live. By changing the thoughts of many, we are changing the lives of everyone.

          1. 0
            20 August 2020 16: 00
            That's right! You cannot correct anything here by force alone. We must use ideology and propaganda in a good sense.
        2. +14
          19 August 2020 10: 42
          Quote: Snail N9
          Luka needs to push all this and the faster, the better and not look back at anyone. Crush! And faster!

          About 10% of the population attended the protests. The number of active protesters cannot exceed 1/5 of the total number of disaffected. It's just that human nature is like that. And 1 in 5 is still extremely optimistic. If we recall the history of the USSR, the Russian Empire, then 2-3% of those who actively oppose the government, this is a very, very rare phenomenon. And it is proposed to put pressure on almost the entire population of Belarus? I dare to remind you that even under Mr. Schicklgruber they crushed a noticeably smaller percentage of Belarusians than you suggest.
          But to understand and forgive ... They will not understand and will not forgive. So Yes. For a while, the leaving of the basket can be postponed. Probably even 5 more years to last until the next elections. There is just one slippery point. Now the enemy, at least half but rather 3/4 of the Belarusians, Lukashenka, and only Lukashenka. Over time, all those who support him will be registered as enemies. Do we need such parsley when we ourselves turn the Belarusians against Russia? If for me, then somehow not very much.
        3. +10
          19 August 2020 11: 14
          Lukashenka really made a mistake.
          But another one.
          He stupidly followed in the footsteps of Yanukovych. You can't do that with people. You can't spit in their faces so brazenly and cynically.
          If Yanukovych had not beaten the students, there would have been no Maidan! At all! Russia would not lose Ukraine! The protesters would have made some noise for a while for the course in the EU, and dispersed. And Yanukovych would sit on the throne to this day. Who advised him to such stupidity as the brutal dispersal of students is not clear. But the next morning he received hundreds of thousands of students, not students, but their parents and the Maidan in addition. Was the man of a great mind? I suppose I also thought that you could sit on bayonets.
          Lukashenka lost his mind altogether when he gave the order to draw more than 80% for himself. What for???
          Just draw 52-53% - that's all! Victory! Clean! No sanctions, no blood! Everything is played up culturally in the media, everyone is happy, including the opposition (we almost won, hurray! Next time - definitely!).
          Well, power acceleration is a repetition of an unlearned lesson. Well, perhaps, he stifled the situation a little. Well, he'll sit on the throne a little longer. Days? Weeks? How to live with a people who hate you? How long can you live like this? I suppose he was planning a five-year term? A person does not understand anything ...
          And about crushing ...
          How exactly do you propose to Lukashenka to crush his own people? Than?
          Caterpillars? Tanks? Automatic bursts? Cannons? Mass shootings? At what number to stop, stop pressing? When will 100 people be killed? 1000? 10000?
          1. +3
            19 August 2020 18: 00
            If Yanukovych had not beaten the students, there would have been no Maidan!

            Don't you know that Yanukovych didn't beat students?
            That the command for overclocking was given by Lyovochkin, the head of the Presidential Administration?
            And one of the conspirators, in combination.
            Lukashenka lost his mind altogether when he gave the order to draw more than 80% for himself. What for???
            Just draw 52-53% - that's all! Victory! Clean! No sanctions, no blood!

            Only he knows what the AHL was planning after the victory.
            As soon as he knows why exactly the level he wanted, what he had before. Maybe he argued with GDP?
            For such authoritarian regimes, an open demonstration of a decrease in popular support is fraught with a loss of loyalty to the security forces. There are different rules of the game than you think.
            And about crushing ...

            You won't be able to press. Nobody will give it to him. RF in the first place. But he himself can no longer. Only in little things if. hi
          2. +2
            19 August 2020 18: 34
            By the way, here's what Makei's charges in Ukraine did:
            “The Belarusian authorities didn’t understand what was happening here, and their embassy in Minsk went through everything. The previous ambassador (Valentin Velichko, who died in 2018) was elderly. The new one - Igor Sokol - is fraternizing with the Poles here. Attends all Polish events, the Baltic-Black Sea Union, the Intermarium project. And not only speaks in Belarusian everywhere, but also says that this historical union of Poland, Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine will sooner or later become a reality, ”one of the Ukrainian political scientists tells VZGLYAD newspaper.

            https://vz.ru/world/2020/8/19/1055795.html

            And for such a scenario, the AHL desperately needed 80% support.
          3. +3
            19 August 2020 21: 42
            Quote: snucerist
            Don't beat Yanukovych students

            I gave you a minus. You know very well what kind of "students" there were, so many years have passed - and you continue to disperse the fake! Remember the "air conditioner" of the Lugansk Regional State Administration!
          4. +3
            20 August 2020 16: 20
            What kind of beating of students? There was not a single "student" under 30 years old, all of them were trained in camps in Poland and the Baltic states. And there was no dispersal, the children themselves began to attack the police. On that day there was Shuster's program, one madame from Batkivshchyna burst into the program and started yelling. We are sitting and there in the square our children are beaten. Schuster immediately made a live broadcast from the square - everything is quiet there. The events began two hours after that, it was too early this lady was given the command or she just messed up. Who could know in advance - only the one who organized it himself. So Yanukovych, for all his shortcomings, has nothing to do with it.
            And the Maidan would have been in any case. He was already fully prepared by partners, people were trained, trained and delivered to the place. Material support for the fighters and money to pay fighters and extras were delivered to the site. Design work on the deployment of a US military base in Sevastopol has been completed. The fleet for this base has already entered the Black Sea. All that remained was to find a reason, which, if desired, is not difficult. Found a reason - I want a girl in the EU and lace panties.
        4. +3
          19 August 2020 11: 39
          You write everything correctly. It's sad that you are being minus. It seems that we do not have Echo of Moscow here, but liberal cockroaches and climb with their minuses.
        5. +1
          20 August 2020 17: 06
          He made a mistake - it was necessary to crush, these creatures from the very beginning

          I fully agree, while it seems that I stubbornly stood on the tracks of Yanukovych
          Well, what awaits RB after the Maidan - Poverty, devastation and components of NATO missile defense in the former RB
      2. +1
        19 August 2020 19: 12
        Quote: Boris55
        By the way, we have the same thirsty for Putin to start waving his sword and cultivate his opposition to him.

        Doesn't he grow it? Khabarovsk is just the beginning. It will be more fun further.
    4. -10
      19 August 2020 09: 21
      There is only one scenario for Moscow:
      1. Lukashenka has nowhere else to go, how to lead Belarus to reunification with Russia.
      2. Dissatisfied people under pressure, organizers of discontent are under trial
      Well, the truth is there are also disadvantages - for part of the population of Belarus, Russia will become a gendarme, but nothing will be forgotten in a couple of generations. Well, there will be sanctions, where without them.
      But there is no choice but a tough re-stripping. Do not let go to Geyrop.
      1. +4
        19 August 2020 09: 28
        Quote: Civil
        There is only one scenario for Moscow:

        Belarus is already part of the union state.

        In view of the critical situation in Belarus, we temporarily take control of this country into our own hands - we remove Lukashenka from management. A new constitution was adopted within six months. On its basis, a new multi-party (pro-Russian) parliament is being formed, and in a year the elections for the head of the republic, which is part of Russia, are appointed.
        1. -1
          19 August 2020 09: 29
          Quote: Boris55
          Quote: Civil
          There is only one scenario for Moscow:

          Belarus is already part of the union state.

          In view of the critical situation in Belarus, we are temporarily taking control of this country into our own hands. A new constitution was adopted within six months. On its basis, a new multi-party (pro-Russian) parliament is being formed, and in a year the elections for the head of the republic, which is part of Russia, are appointed.

          And I'm talking about that, as a result, the United Belarus party is a part of the United Russia party, a banquet and awards.
        2. -2
          19 August 2020 10: 44
          Quote: Boris55
          In view of the critical situation in Belarus, we temporarily take control of this country into our own hands - we remove Lukashenka from management.

          It might be better to try a business case instead of politics: due to the debtor's inability to repay the debt, the creditor introduces external management.
          And then once we already temporarily took over the management of the region of one country - before the referendum. The noise is still there.
          1. -2
            19 August 2020 11: 24
            Quote: Alexey RA
            And then once we already temporarily took over the management of the region of one country - before the referendum. The noise is still there.

            What, where and when?
            1. 0
              19 August 2020 11: 34
              Quote: Boris55
              What, where and when?

              Reunification of Crimea.
              1. +3
                19 August 2020 12: 27
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Reunification of Crimea.

                What's wrong with Crimea? Everything there is according to the law, incl. and Ukrainian. Crimea is higher from the structure of Ukraine and then became part of Russia.
          2. -2
            19 August 2020 19: 19
            These are all groundless dreamers. There will be collapse and plunder.
        3. +9
          19 August 2020 10: 55
          The plan is good for everyone.
          But maybe we should first ask the Belarusian people - do they agree to such a misalliance? Precisely the people? Because only he is the only representative of the legal power in Belarus according to the Constitution.
          1. -5
            19 August 2020 11: 21
            Quote: snucerist
            But maybe we should first ask the Belarusian people

            Then, when the emotions subside, then we will ask, but for now:


            Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uf7keyprv8&feature=emb_err_woyt
          2. 0
            19 August 2020 19: 22
            The plan is not good at all. And don't hope this is too good for you parasites. We have kept you fucking zmagars for too long at our own expense. It's time to take you out into the cold and make you live for your own.
        4. +3
          19 August 2020 11: 46
          This action would fall under the definition of "occupation" and "annexation". With consequences
        5. -1
          19 August 2020 19: 17
          Quote: Boris55
          Belarus is already part of the union state.

          In words.
          Quote: Boris55
          In view of the critical situation in Belarus, we temporarily take control of this country into our own hands - we remove Lukashenka from management. A new constitution was adopted within six months. On its basis, a new multi-party (pro-Russian) parliament is being formed, and in a year the elections for the head of the republic, which is part of Russia, are appointed.

          Nice grass you have there. But it won't. And there will be collapse and plunder.
      2. -1
        19 August 2020 11: 59
        Quote: Civil
        There is only one scenario for Moscow:
        1. Lukashenka has nowhere else to go, how to lead Belarus to reunification with Russia.
        2. Dissatisfied people under pressure, organizers of discontent are under trial
        Well, the truth is there are also disadvantages - for part of the population of Belarus, Russia will become a gendarme, but nothing will be forgotten in a couple of generations. Well, there will be sanctions, where without them.
        But there is no choice but a tough re-stripping. Do not let go to Geyrop.

        Do you think you are writing?
        Some have already been cleaned, forgot the story?
    5. +4
      19 August 2020 09: 24
      Field summaries:

      This is Sergei Tikhanovsky, the husband of the “future” president of Belarus and her ideological inspirer. Now he is in jail, arrested even before his nomination. She, like, for him.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm3jcGMpKYQ,

      And the sacramental question - for whose money is the banquet? The population, waiting for changes, has gathered.

      http://www.dal.by/news/19/14-11-19-8/

      I personally don't like this way of posing the question! I don’t want it to be as good as in Ukraine, and not only there. (Bulgaria, Georgia, Turkmenistan, all the Baltic states, Moldova ...)

      And yet, yes! Three aircraft from the Russian Federation flew to the Republic of Bashkortostan, and complaints from Ukraine began pouring in that someone had begun to give Lukashenko very good advice.

      https://yurasumy-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/s/yurasumy.livejournal.com/2777875.html?promo=navbar&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com%2F%3Ffromzen%3Dsearchapp

      It became difficult to work)

      And the protests began to subside. Now 30-50-100 people are "on strike". In different places.
      Maybe because working hours and on weekends will flare up again. But, the fact is the fact.
    6. +2
      19 August 2020 12: 33
      Quote: Livonetc
      What does the article mean by the purge of the pro-Western elite?

      There is no "elite" except the western one. I have never heard or read about the "eastern" elite.
    7. +1
      20 August 2020 11: 26
      They walk along the Ukrainian path into the abyss and rejoice.

      1. 0
        22 August 2020 19: 38
        You would have shown Vlasovites under the Russian tricolor, for the entourage. Think what you write. We Russians in Belarus think differently. If there was a Russian government in Russia, then there would be no Bandera Ukraine and there would be no Belarusian Popular Front in Belarus.
        1. 0
          23 August 2020 09: 18
          The flag of creatures is corrupt, why pupolize? And my flag is white-yellow with black
  2. +12
    19 August 2020 09: 15
    I have a clear feeling that whatever the Belarusians themselves decide now, after a while they will regret their decision.
    Interestingly, "Russia" also does not have a good choice. Either "our son of a bitch" (which, by the way, is not especially ours), or ...
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      1. +2
        19 August 2020 10: 08
        Quote: Dangerous
        Nifiga he is not ours.

        I'm talking about this too.
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      1. 0
        19 August 2020 09: 59
        PS As one friend of mine used to say: "The country of the unafraid, go ....."

        original. Genius.

        Are you a supporter of Lukashenka?
        1. +1
          19 August 2020 10: 07
          Thank you. good Only a friend's phrase sounded more effective, although he is not Abdulov.
      2. +1
        19 August 2020 10: 09
        Quote: Evdokim
        And I have a feeling that in Belarus those who did not beat in the gut (for a beaten two are not beaten), and this is from 35 and younger, who did not eat the last horseradish without salt in the 90s, or forgot about it, wanted to drive ...

        Do you think it's wrong with us?
        1. +1
          19 August 2020 10: 20
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          Do you think it's wrong with us?

          Yes, everything too. One 27-year-old thinker told me something about Putin, rubbed Stenka Razin with Pugachev, and I also want to scold him. hi
      3. +3
        19 August 2020 11: 12
        Quote: Evdokim
        And I have a feeling that in Belarus those who didn’t beat in the gut (for a broken one they don’t give two), and this is from 35 and younger, who didn’t eat the last horseradish without salt in the 90s, or forgot about it, wanted to drive ... So it started.

        It's just that the majority for some reason thinks that democracy and freedom are primary, and it is they that will ensure economic prosperity and income growth. However, this point of view is strongly supported by those who have achieved this prosperity (and who do not need competitors).
        In fact, the opposite is true: first, the foundation for democracy is laid with sweat and blood, and then, on its solid foundation, the screws are already being released. An illustrative example is South Korea, which was able to economically oust the old powers: its economic potential was being built during the days of such dashing guys as Park Chung Hee, Jung Doo Hwan and Ro Dae Woo, who did not hesitate to use the army and the Air Force against the mass demonstrations of "fighters for democracy" (the same events in Gwangju). Or take the same Singapore with its long-term dictator Lee Kuan Yew: one country, one path, one leader. Anyone who does not like it can leave.
        1. +1
          19 August 2020 11: 22
          I agree with you in everything. First, we build a HOUSE, and then we make beautiful repairs, and not try to make a palace out of a barn. hi
        2. 0
          19 August 2020 14: 21
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Or take the same Singapore with its long-term dictator Lee Kuan Yew: one country, one path, one leader. Anyone who does not like it can leave.

          Yes, Singapore is an example of effective leadership fascism that always comes to mind first. But it is also true that Singapore was indeed exceptionally effective (and free), especially against the backdrop of the former common homeland of Malaysia. A sort of Malay Finland.
          It is difficult to suspect the post-Soviet comrades of exceptional efficiency by world standards. But the leader's fascism is much dearer.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          the economic potential was built during the days of such dashing guys as Park Chung Hee, Chung Doo Hwan and Ro Dae Woo, who did not hesitate to use the army and air force against the mass demonstrations of "fighters for democracy" (the same events in Gwangju).

          You cheat. Gwangju is the time of Jung Doo Hwan, a great defender of sovereignty and, as usual, a thief (well, a thief by Korean standards, in our country he could be beatified as a great non-possessor). His political opponents, such as Kim Dae-jung, were dragged out of prisons by the Americans.

          These events have little to do with the economic foundation of South Korea. They hindered development rather than helped.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          In fact, the opposite is true: first, the foundation for democracy is laid with sweat and blood, and then, on its solid foundation, the screws are already being released.

          You're lying.
          First, with sweat and blood, an effective economy is laid, which allows you to create an effective army and not quarrel with the Americans, who are covering the country right now from the DPRK, PRC and Malaysia. Without the Americans, it turns out like in Albania, and with them we have to build some kind of capitalism.

          Capitalism implies the sanctity of property rights and high quality (contractual) law, and to it an independent (arbitration) court, possibly the High Court of London. Sooner or later, it all appears. And then - the end of the dictatorship.

          A dictatorship in which ownership is sacred cannot exist. A one-party system is still possible if it is effective enough, but it is farther and farther away from the VKP (b) and closer and closer to some grand CDU / SPD coalition.

          In general, this is the path that, for example, Kazakhstan is slowly following, and from which Russia finally turned in 2003.

          Quote: Alexey RA
          However, this point of view is strongly supported by those who have achieved this prosperity (and who do not need competitors).

          You're lying.
          Those who have achieved it do not care at all, and especially about RB. Another competitor to the United States was found, Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Maduro, and now Lukashenko.

          Americans have no problem making friends with dictators and absolute monarchs. The entire Middle East. If a character does not dare in the international arena and moderately sheds blood within the country, no one will have any questions for him. Only if he accidentally falls under the distribution, like Milosevic.

          Quote: Alexey RA
          It's just that the majority for some reason thinks that democracy and freedom are primary, and it is they that will ensure economic prosperity and income growth.

          Democracy allows you to remove a person who is obviously not going to provide economic and prosperity and income growth. And he is going to wield clubs, and, as they say, in an overly intricate way.

          And no one will give any guarantees for prosperity, of course.
          1. 0
            19 August 2020 19: 42
            Quote: Cherry Nine
            Without Americans it turns out like in Albania

            And with them as in Afghanistan. laughing

            Quote: Cherry Nine
            Democracy allows you to remove a person who is obviously not going to provide economic and prosperity and income growth. And he is going to wield clubs, and, as they say, in an overly intricate way.

            I am ashamed to ask, but I will ask nonetheless. And what is happening in the United States now, how to understand? What kind of democracy is it? Was Trump chosen because he is going to ensure economic prosperity? Or do they want to remove him from winning the elections because he is not going to provide this very prosperity?
            Quote: Cherry Nine
            And no one will give any guarantees for prosperity, of course.

            And then why the heck to start if there are no guarantees at all? If there is no bright future even in the project? So that some people with bright faces can live beautifully?
            1. +1
              20 August 2020 10: 09
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And then why the heck to start if there are no guarantees at all? If there is no bright future even in the project?

              Because now there will definitely not be a bright future, but there will be and there will be a club in the railway station.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And what is happening in the United States now, how to understand?

              What surprises you there?
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Was Trump chosen because he is going to ensure economic prosperity?

              There is a protracted crisis of the political system, as a result of which they chose and choose from varieties of shit.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Or they want to remove him starting from the election victory

              Nobody is going to remove it, and this is impossible. The dances of the Democratic Party do not go beyond the limits adopted in the United States. Let me remind you that N. Pelossi's husband is not in prison, and she herself is not in Vilnius and not in a forest belt.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And with them, like in Afghanistan

              In Afghanistan, everyone is the same, with the Americans, the Soviets and the British. A cursed place.
        3. 0
          19 August 2020 19: 27
          The idiots decided that the superstructure was the basis. Well, life through blood, pain, sweat and tears will teach fools to wits to wits.
  3. bar
    0
    19 August 2020 09: 22
    Good article. Good analysis. I put everything on the shelves. Thank.
    1. +1
      19 August 2020 13: 27
      )))
      Uh-huh. If you exclude tonality, then everything is said correctly.

      The protest was successfully drained, the end of Belarus. Either Luka remains and sits African, or Belarus receives a ticket to the Titanic of the Russian Federation from Putin. Victory options are no longer visible. On Sunday with all this festivities, everything was lost.

      The situation can only be saved by a sharp turn of circumstances external to Belarus. What one can hope for, but it is foolish to count on.
  4. +5
    19 August 2020 09: 22
    Belarus at a crossroads.

    Believe it or not, I myself am now writing an article with the same title, although I have decided not to write on political topics. But I have a slightly different aspect, what should Lukashenka take directly to maintain power and reconcile the people. Specific proposals describing the consequences. I want to finish today. There will be many letters. Something will undoubtedly overlap, so please do not accuse plagiarism, just similar thoughts.
    1. 0
      19 August 2020 11: 09
      Quote: Dante
      I want to finish today. There will be many letters. Something will undoubtedly overlap, so please do not accuse plagiarism, just similar thoughts.

      Spread it out, we are waiting.
    2. 0
      19 August 2020 13: 12
      Interested. But please consider the "successful" developments
      Russian leadership in Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Ukraine and
      further down the list (Baltics, Kazakhstan, Azeibarzhan ...)
      Well, someone has to do the suggested actions.
      And who could it be?
    3. +1
      19 August 2020 19: 50
      Lukashenka is best dumped into the sunset. Yanukovych has already been waiting for him. They will grow gardening for a couple of bulba near Rostov.
  5. +1
    19 August 2020 09: 25
    The issue can be resolved only if the Russian leadership does not flirt with the "eccentric" Lukashenko, but seriously tackles the issues of state integration in the interests of the Russian and Belarusian societies, otherwise Belarus will find itself where Ukraine is now.

    Well, finally it started to come. And before that no one understood this? It was imperative to wait for Lukashenka to bring the situation in Belarus to the point of absurdity.
    1. +1
      19 August 2020 23: 00
      Quote: vvvjak
      Well, finally it started to come. And before that no one understood this? It was necessary to wait for Lukashenka to bring the situation in Belarus to the point of absurdity

      It doesn't reach now. And that's why. For more than 20 years Lukashenka has been kicking (blr) Belarus just because he is in conjunction with Putin. And this Putin-Lukashenko tandem is real, without him such a long presidential career of Alexander Grigorievich would be impossible.
  6. +6
    19 August 2020 09: 33
    Russia would have a controlling stake in Belarus, and the West would have a blocking

    I wonder why the West should, in this situation, even share anything with Russia. You can share with an equal, but they do not perceive us that way, with our economy, unfortunately, we will not be able to claim anything.
  7. +6
    19 August 2020 09: 35
    "He won the first round of confrontation and by force prevented the extremists from attempting a putsch,"
    extremists-putschists ... with weapons in their hands tried to kill the security forces?

    "If Lukashenko stays in power, Russia will decide everything."
    Yes, we need such people with 80% or 99,9%. Only kagogo ..... fig, having won, he will be a puppet of Russia ???
    not small, he will think of something, he will organize the care himself, etc.

    "preparation of a" transfer "of power begins, a cleanup of the pro-Western elite" ... eh, to get it in the toilet? Omon will take you to prison yards and ankle boots on the ribs ???

    IMHO, imperial megalomania with some idealism ... like, "must, must, maybe, must ..." and all this "without the seizure of strategic industries by Russian structures and the imposition of Russian oligarchic capitalism."

    In general, for all the good versus all the bad. So who's against it?
  8. AAK
    +7
    19 August 2020 09: 35
    Most of the people of Belarus do not accept Lukashenko, Makei or Tikhonovskaya are categorically unacceptable to Russia. There is no strong and authoritative candidate with a political platform "between the two poles" in Belarus. An intermediate, politically neutral structure is needed for a period of 3-5 years to stabilize the situation and stop the pro-Western vector of movement. In my opinion, it can only be a "junta" - a committee of the heads of power structures of a neutral or, to a certain extent, pro-Russian orientation. And very serious work of all mass media of Belarus on restructuring the system of political values, as well as work on optimizing (in the positive sense of the word) the economy. Plus the closure of borders, the introduction of a state of emergency for about half a year, the systemic cleansing of the opposition, the extraction of compromising evidence (political and economic) on its leaders and ties with the United States and Europe with widespread publication. At the same time, form a real pro-Russian party and train future leaders of Belarus.
    If the Russian leadership needs stability in Belarus and real steps to create a union state, it is necessary to act quickly, tough, but without fanaticism, and it is imperative to provide the necessary information to the media. Well, Lukashenka himself, as well as his opponents, should be removed from politics.
    1. +1
      19 August 2020 09: 52
      Quote: AAK
      An intermediate, politically neutral structure is needed for a period of 3-5 years to stabilize the situation and stop the pro-Western vector of movement.

      the people must be convinced of this! by order, if it does go there, it will creak ... which could be much worse, with blood! if the dad will continue to cure.
      1. AAK
        +1
        19 August 2020 11: 18
        A cunning trick with the ears is possible, the main thing - there would be a will to preserve the state:
        1. The forces of the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and security (you do not need to withdraw heavy equipment) are engaged in administrative, industrial and civil objects according to the "October list", an appeal on TV from the leaders of the "GKChP" - "Homeland is in danger !!!", "Evil intrigues of enemies ... "and so on, the composition of the new authority is announced, the temporary introduction of the posts of military governors in the regions and military commandants in cities, districts and transport is announced. Law enforcement agencies and the army - on a heightened regime and increased combat readiness until further notice ...
        The preservation of the validity of the basic constitutional civil rights, incl. the rights to assemblies and peaceful actions, as well as the temporary closure of borders (except for the official transit of railway transport and the passage of international flights along the established corridors), the introduction of a curfew and a special procedure for conducting operational measures, investigations and legal proceedings ...
        civil administrations remain, but are temporarily subordinate to military commanders and governors.
        2. "But Father and Makei and his team are withdrawn from circulation" (the first - as the one who allowed the prerequisites for destabilizing the situation in the country and "got out of the trust" of the people, the second - as "the fifth column, which cherished the vile designs of the fifth column" in the interests of the enemy forces);
        3. From opposition "talkers" and ordinary citizens - participants of protest actions, nobody is touched; organizers and leaders of protests and strikes, persons responsible for "material support", finances and "relations with abroad", commanders "are" filtered out "and" localized " battle groups "and foreign" political tourists ". They work closely with them, possibly even with the use of special means of a psychotropic nature and gut "to the bottom", all obtained documents, subversive literature, data on financial (foreign and local) support for the protests, export fighters, recordings with testimony - on TV and in the media ("the country must know its heroes"). The work of foreign media should not be stopped, but the secret censorship should be taken under control, the information obtained "about the hand of the West" should first of all be leaked through them.
        4. Strikes should not be dispersed, in the absence of external funding and the need to feed families, employees of enterprises will return to their places. From Russia, you can (but without particularly loud media coverage) to throw several necessary orders.
        Well, further - according to the list. The only question is time, if no such events start within a week, then Belarus has been merged ...
        1. 0
          19 August 2020 12: 02
          Quote: AAK
          The only question is time, if no such events start within a week, then Belarus has been merged ...

          Everything is complicated \ simple. Old man there and so clever, clocked, so sho now everything should be simple, intelligible.
          Clear goals and objectives ... and yes, we need to clearly state our PURPOSE !!! Because the neighbors do not hide anything at all, at least the primary intact, behind all sorts of nonsense such as "show concern for the Belarusian people." The game will be tough, you need to do everything clearly.
  9. +2
    19 August 2020 09: 47
    Yesterday evening I went to the store, and there was some kind of information program going on.
    So ... they said in it that a fund had been created, they had already collected 1 million dollars. And already 100 thousand dollars were allocated to the strikers at MTZ.

    The West has connected financial levers without hiding.
    Well, Belarusians will feed you for a while, so what? Well, you put on Tikhanovskaya ... and then no one will feed you ... I'll just say it again, in the West your industry is not needed, not at all.
    1. 0
      19 August 2020 13: 03
      Quote: Dali

      The West has connected financial levers without hiding.

      The money is collected inside the Republic of Belarus. You certainly won't believe this.
  10. +1
    19 August 2020 09: 49
    in any scenario, Lukashenka will have to leave.

    when and how, is that the question? yes, and who is new ??? this is already a question, questions!
  11. -3
    19 August 2020 09: 49
    You are all smart, dear sir. They decided to cut Belarus, and now it is being decided whose oligarchs will cut it. All.
    1. 0
      19 August 2020 09: 56
      Quote: Mastrer
      You are all smart, dear sir. They decided to cut Belarus, and now it is being decided whose oligarchs will cut it. All.

      Maybe the Russian oligarchs make sense ... but the Western ones do not need it, although how ..., of course, it is necessary to destroy competitors and organize another anti-Russia.
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 10: 04
        No capitalist can resist 300% profit laughing

        And this is not the worst economy in the post-Soviet space. And she herself falls into the hands, because the leader and ... (not very smart). Well, how difficult it would be to resist, both the West and ours.
        1. +1
          19 August 2020 10: 19
          Quote: Mastrer
          No capitalist can resist 300% profit
          Of course it will not resist !!!
          For this, they will destroy all competitors in the person of Maz, Belaz, etc., and along the way they will do one more thing for themselves - they will shit on Russia (80% of the industry of Belarus works for Russia).
        2. +3
          19 August 2020 11: 19
          Quote: Mastrer
          And this is not the worst economy in the post-Soviet space. And she herself falls into the hands, because the leader and ... (not very smart). Well, how difficult it would be to resist, both the West and ours.


          You know, I have already heard about not the worst economy, which itself is falling into the hands of the West. They say that Western companies are not stupid, they will not give up inexpensive qualified personnel and ready-made infrastructure. So they will buy up our industry, modernize it, and fill it up with orders. And we'll live ... you just need take the path of democracy - and everything will be right away.
          It was in the late 80s. How it ended - I think everyone remembers.
          1. 0
            19 August 2020 11: 57
            No no no. It doesn't work that way. The most important thing is the sales market. And Belarusian enterprises choose the future either in the variant of liberating the territory (west style), or in transition to their own vertical (RF style). And in that and in that case, the Belarusians, I'm sorry, go nuts.
          2. 0
            19 August 2020 13: 38
            Quote: Alexey RA
            How it all ended - I think everyone remembers.

            Remember.

            Boris Nikolaevich and his former colleagues in the Russian Federation and neighboring countries, except for the Baltic States, successfully defended the country's sovereignty. That is, the bourgeois were not allowed in and they plundered everything cleanly themselves.
  12. +3
    19 August 2020 09: 53
    Quote: Dali
    in the west, your industry is not needed, not at all needed

    Moreover, there is no need for agriculture and education with medicine, and everyone spit on the Belarusian language and people are not needed (for them they were and will be "Soviet people", for them Arab and African refugees are more preferable).
    1. -1
      19 August 2020 10: 00
      Quote: bulava
      Moreover, there is no need for agriculture and education with medicine, and everyone spit on the Belarusian language and people are not needed (for them they were and will be "Soviet people", for them Arab and African refugees are more preferable).

      Does the country of Belarus understand this, which quietly sit at home and, it turns out, tacitly support the coup.

      And I agree with the article, the Belarusians have a future only as part of Russia !!!
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 10: 43
        Alas, at all times of the revolution, the minority did, while the majority was busy with work or household chores.
  13. -6
    19 August 2020 10: 14
    And then we are waiting for the same messages as from Mali ..

    "We can declare that the President and the Prime Minister are in our hands. We have arrested them in their homes. Now they are being taken in an armored vehicle to Katya's army base," said the source of the news agency.
    1. +1
      19 August 2020 10: 47
      By the way, it's good that you remembered Mali. There is a coup every year. And behind all this there is a "progressive world community", mourners from the UN and, of course, France, which benefits from constant chaos and devastation in the former colonies
  14. +1
    19 August 2020 10: 16
    I think that Putin will not give up Belarus to the West under any circumstances. 450 km to Moscow is too close. Now the Poles will raise rates to provoke Putin to send troops, but this will not be necessary. The dad will fight openly for his life.
  15. -2
    19 August 2020 10: 25
    What's next?
    Then it seems something like this
    1. -4
      19 August 2020 10: 27
      Unfortunately, it looks like here
  16. -1
    19 August 2020 10: 26
    Russia is losing country by country due to the fact that we ourselves have a losing situation. the rule of an illegitimate president leads to a tough separation of the authorities from the people. all interests in the countries of the former Soviet Union are tied only to the grandmas. people feel it, that's why such an attitude towards Russia. Russian elections and referenda are rigged EVERYTHING! It is clear that the departure of Lukashenka and Putin is likely to cause more chaos. one can only hope that everything will turn out more or less normally. but this game of democracy is played by the rules of those in power. people HAVE the RIGHT to openly disagree. there is no need to LIE about an honest vote count. what makes you angry most of all is lies. 80 percent of Lukashenka is an unambiguous lime. our 70 percent for the amendments, Putin's victory in 18 of the same opera. Well, do it honestly, cancel the elections, appoint yourself as king and rule for the good of the people, if possible. but drawing interest rates by manipulating the opinion of the people is simply despicable. in short, horseradish radish is not sweeter. everywhere an ambush. By the way, when the news got out that Putin was one of the first, or the very first, to congratulate Lukashenka on his victory, I realized that he was fantastic in the eyes of Belarusians. SO damage the integration of Russia and Belarus! It is something...
    1. +2
      19 August 2020 11: 17
      More than true
  17. +3
    19 August 2020 10: 34
    Quote: Egoza
    Of course not! But he had a GREAT CHANCE to preserve both the Soviet socialist heritage and to develop the republic further. He missed it.


    There was no chance. Socialism is theoretically possible in a single country if it is a country the size of the USSR.
    1. 0
      19 August 2020 10: 39
      Quote: Pavel57
      There was no chance. Socialism is theoretically possible in a single country if it is a country the size of the USSR.

      I agree. There was no chance.
  18. -1
    19 August 2020 10: 39
    Leave your great imperial chauvinism! Belaruskali has already started an indefinite strike!
    There is only one way out for a peaceful settlement of the situation, for today, re-elections, with the involvement of observers from all interested parties! And the recognition of the results of these elections by all "players"
    And the time before these elections should be used for "fighting for minds" !!!
    1. 0
      19 August 2020 13: 34
      Quote: Lumpen
      Belaruskali has already started an indefinite strike!

      Nothing, the food in the refrigerator will run out - they will get cold.
      Quote: Lumpen
      re-elections, with the involvement of observers from all interested parties! And the recognition of the results of these elections by all "players"

      Grigorich has already said. Only through his corpse.
    2. 0
      19 August 2020 19: 59
      Quote: Lumpen
      Leave your great imperial chauvinism!

      What more? You can do without indulging in Velikolitvin's farm ambitions.
  19. -3
    19 August 2020 10: 42
    Quote: ELEZKIY
    that Putin was one of the first, or the very first, to congratulate Lukashenka on his victory, I realized that he was fantastic in the eyes of the Belarusians. SO damage the integration of Russia and Belarus! It is something...


    That is, there was no need to congratulate the officially elected president of the fraternal union republic, which, one of the few, has been loyal to Russia for so many years?
    What kind of eyes are you writing about? Those 5% of the population who actively muddy the waters and openly dream of climbing under the NATO boot?
    1. -1
      19 August 2020 10: 49
      5% of those who went to rallies are far from 5% of those who are against Luka ..
    2. +4
      19 August 2020 11: 48
      Quote: bulava
      Quote: ELEZKIY
      that Putin was one of the first, or the very first, to congratulate Lukashenka on his victory, I realized that he was fantastic in the eyes of the Belarusians. SO damage the integration of Russia and Belarus! It is something...


      That is, there was no need to congratulate the officially elected president of the fraternal union republic, which, one of the few, has been loyal to Russia for so many years?
      What kind of eyes are you writing about? Those 5% of the population who actively muddy the waters and openly dream of climbing under the NATO boot?

      you need to congratulate. but it is more necessary to have information that there is no overwhelming support. it can be seen even with an unbiased look. the Belarusian and Russian authorities cannot draw the percentage of support less than the overwhelming one. otherwise questions arise. under the current state of affairs, it is natural to express popular discontent in one form or another. like it or not, the government, while maintaining its structure that does not take into account the opinion of the people, increases the split in society, leading the country to rather unpleasant, if not terrible, upheavals. this applies equally to Belarus and Russia. And the fact that Putin did so is not surprising. After a savory spit to the peoples of Russia in the form of the weaning of 5 years of life, the very thing is to spit in the soul of the Belarusians.
  20. -3
    19 August 2020 10: 43
    And then there are also two options. If Russia gives these screamers actually part of its territory, it will become clear what awaits the country in the near future. If not, then indeed Russia is getting up from its knees, we have an independent policy, etc. Okay with Ukraine, then an independent country. Belarus is a part of the Union State and its separation from Russia is arrogance. Judging by the fact that labor collectives, with the filing of the leadership against Lukashenka, in turn rub their hands on state property and voluntarily does not want to follow the Chinese path
  21. +5
    19 August 2020 10: 58
    The political system should become more open and competitive with real political parties and the opposition, with the state ideology of historical Russian unity, an economic basis with the preservation of strategic industries in the hands of the state, freedom for medium and small businesses, more efficient state management of industry, real integration into the Russian economy without capture Russian structures of strategic industries and the imposition of Russian oligarchic capitalism.

    It will be necessary to start an open dialogue with the Belarusian society and, in order to calm it down, preserve the state elements of social protection of the population that arose under Lukashenka. One must draw conclusions from his defeat


    This is the 2nd most important quote and what does it say?
    Syabri says that the disintegration of society is in full swing, not only among the Belarusians, but also in Russia.
    And that for the essential integration of ONE people into a union state, RUSSIA SHOULD CHANGE AND IN THE FIRST TIME !!!
    Oligarchically, capitalism is not attractive to anyone except the OLIGARCHS and the corrupt officials for the benefit of the oligarchs. At the same time, for the oligarchs, the people and the state are simply a means, a tool for robbery.
    Such Rusia is not attractive to anyone, nor to the people of Rusia. This is what happened in Belarus. THE LAST WARNING OF RUSSIA that it must change !!!
    If Russia begins to integrate with Belarus oligarchic robbery of the strategic industries of Belarus and the reduction of social protection for the population, Russia will eventually quickly lose Belarus in the near future, and will begin to decompose itself.
    Reform OCHIM NEEDS BELARUS AND RUSSIA, with this that in Belarus in the direction of the system of Russia, and in Russia in the direction of the system of Belarus.
    In essence, the collective rule is to bring the Slavic people to the Orthodox TRUTH, and this TRUTH is multi-vector, which means if there is no truth for the people there is no freedom here either. An oligarch in a Slavic Orthodox state who got his dengue in Russia to spend billions on a yacht and real estate from enemy powers, and often of the people in poverty, and without good social protection (pensions, health care, schooling, pensions and age, etc.)
    Results Rusia was on the verge of losing the people and the state of Belarus, not only because of the mistakes of the Old Man and his outdated system, but also because of his mistakes and not only because of mistakes in politics towards Belarus, but FIRSTLY because of mistakes, his internal policy to himself and his own TO THE PEOPLE!
    1. +3
      19 August 2020 11: 20
      If someone does not know how to change and in what direction, look at the SWEDISH CAPITALISM IN THE PERIOD OF ULOF PALME, when the Swedes were the most progressive power in the world, this is especially for Gref, Chubais, Gozman and other ideologues of Kabalist perversion.
      1. 0
        19 August 2020 20: 05
        Everything is somewhat more complicated. That is what the inevitable stage of development of capitalism has now arrived at. The world economy is heading for the abyss, and the world is heading for a world war. Such capitalism is an unstable temporary utopia.
        1. +1
          20 August 2020 09: 22
          The world economy is sliding into the abyss, and the world is heading for a world war. Such capitalism is an unstable temporary utopia.



          The financial global pyramid system is driving the world economy into an abyss and the world to war. Credit interest systems of world finance gives rise to the need for a mindless increase in trade and waste of resources. The entire state and the entire economy, like every person, is in debt, because no one answers where to dengue banks so that everyone has debts to them and why no one can pay off debts.
          Because of this, there are regular world crises, and then war develops. wink
          These who created this system are all well aware of this, but they do not care for their important control over humanity.
          With such a financial system, the same thing happened if the world was a socialist economy or a communist one.
          Comrade Marx (Mordecai Levi) wrote a 1.000-page Capital, but he hardly touched the system with interest and money printing to the bank and did not explain that such a system is violent to all students, all the same, one form of ownership.
          But God removed from life ludi, those. tried it.
  22. 0
    19 August 2020 11: 01
    Quote: Roman246810
    5% of those who went to rallies are far from 5% of those who are against Luka ..

    Yes, yes, yes, we constantly hear this from our opposition, when there are ten of them, but they scream as if there are a couple of million of them ...
  23. +4
    19 August 2020 11: 15
    no matter how the author hesitates to call the power in our country, the power of oligarchic capitalism ... well, that's the way it is ... but only for one moment, with such power, we can't see Belarus as our ears ... the people there are not fools and they don’t need a life like ours ... so Belarus will be lost as before Ukraine ... well, who needs to be friends with the poor and unpresentable, which we have is 90% of the population
  24. 0
    19 August 2020 12: 07
    And if this is not a "crossroads", but a terminal station? Can't believe it? Well, then, for sure: this is it. How to get off at the final stop is not taught.
  25. -1
    19 August 2020 12: 21
    Who pursues what interests?

    Did the leaders of the listed countries tell you personally about their plans?
  26. +1
    19 August 2020 12: 41
    Quote: Lumpen
    Leave your great imperial chauvinism! Belaruskali has already started an indefinite strike!
    There is only one way out for a peaceful settlement of the situation, for today, re-elections, with the involvement of observers from all interested parties! And the recognition of the results of these elections by all "players"
    And the time before these elections should be used for "fighting for minds" !!!

    The fight for the minds is to get through to the Belarusians, that today their path follows the path of Ukraine.
  27. +5
    19 August 2020 13: 18
    Further, there is a long process of treatment and education of the Belarusian society, the restoration of its Russian identity, and only then - a denser integration.

    From this moment in more detail ... On what examples should Belarusians be "treated"? On the example of solid thieves in power in Russia? First, Russia needs to be cured of the anti-popular government and the Russian economy should be put in order. And only then turn to Belarus. And so Belarusians will shy away from us like the devil from incense ...
  28. 0
    19 August 2020 13: 23
    This is such an interesting thing, this dictatorship ...
    Any opposition is destroyed in the bud, and when the end comes (dead, thrown off, the "receiver" turned out to be not to the taste of the people, any other option) - there is no continuity of power. There is no one to steer. And the plump northern fox of black-brown color comes to the country. The dictatorship and the lack of alternatives and change of power, they are so harsh. There is no easy way out - either the next dictator or hard times.
  29. +2
    19 August 2020 13: 36
    Here is the respected Author says the following:
    "Lukashenko simply missed the moment when his struggle for the state turned into a struggle for one-man and unlimited power. As a result, he became an obstacle to the further development of the state, as well as an" incapable of negotiation "element in the global confrontation between Russia and the West."
    It is hard to disagree.
    But how to understand the statements according to which, on the one hand, "... Without Lukashenko, Belarus will inevitably go to the West, since there is no pro-Russian elite there, he successfully cleaned it up during the years of his rule."
    On the other hand, the Author puts forward a demand for Lukashenka to provide an opportunity "... for the pro-Russian forces to form a real political force and nominate their leaders, from which the formation of the pro-Russian elite will begin (there are _ more than_ enough such representatives_ and _ in the _ current _ elite_) with guarantees of keeping it on the political Olympus . "
    Isn't the totality of pro-Russian elites in the current elite a pro-Russian elite?
    Is it there or cleaned up? For me, this collision contains a kind of contradiction, and I would like to resolve it with the help of the colleagues present here.
  30. 0
    19 August 2020 14: 13
    In reality, there will be something third or fourth ...
    Life is full of surprises.
    Here the question of how much the old man has changed (will change) inside and how much he can steer the situation even without regard to the vector of movement seems to be interesting. How would the king find himself naked overnight ..
    And instead of "our son of a bitch" you can get an "English princess" who rules, but does not rule ..
  31. -2
    19 August 2020 14: 41
    The issue can be resolved only if the Russian leadership does not flirt with the "eccentric" Lukashenko, but seriously tackles the issues of state integration in the interests of the Russian and Belarusian societies, otherwise Belarus will find itself where Ukraine is now.

    Rejection of Lukashenko is the most direct path to the transformation of Belarus into a new Ukraine. If the crowd occupies the state of the institution in Minsk, then the president, the government and the army must be evacuated to another city, to the border with Russia, and a provisional government will be created as in the case of external aggression.
    1. 0
      19 August 2020 20: 12
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Rejection of Lukashenko is the most direct path to the transformation of Belarus into a new Ukraine.

      And support for Lukashenka is also a direct path for the transformation of Belarus into Ukraine. The future of Belarus is the fate of Ukraine. Alas, this is inevitable.
  32. +1
    19 August 2020 17: 10
    The half-dead model of the Union State of Belarus-Russia - NONSENS, which can be accurately described as the model of the "union state INSIDE the state of the federation" - the Jewish system of survival.

    Lukashenka has the only way to preserve himself and his family: - Write a Statement to President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin "On the entry of Belarus as a federal subject of Russia."

    Only in this case, Lukashenko will remain the Master of Belarus, but as the Chairman of the Republic of Belarus, in the likeness of R. Kadyrov - the model of Chechnya! How will he save himself and the people of Belarus from a catastrophe in the imagery of Ukraine.

    There is no other option. And, he has no right to delay this political process, since further forces from outside will elementarily destroy the state structure, and Moscow will no longer be able to help not only him and his family, but also the people of Belarus! Since a new Maidan coup is being prepared in Ukraine for the Independence Day of Ukraine!

    And, the Russian Federation will not have time to introduce the CSTO forces to restore order, since Ukraine, Poland, the Balts, and the EU have already thoroughly worked out a very openly bandit version of the overthrow of Lukashenka's power in Belarus.

    As soon as the Statement "On the admission of Belarus to a member of the Federation - Russia" arrives on the table of Vladimir Putin, and, a priori, of the already existing "union state", the CSTO leadership adopts a Decision to bring the CSTO Peacekeeping Forces into Belarus.

    It is not excluded that it can become an objective reality, in order to prevent another coup in Ukraine, as an obvious danger to Russia, and, the introduction of the CSTO Peacekeeping Forces into Ukraine, unilaterally by the Decision of the CSTO governing body.

    Time does not stand it! The Russian Federation must not allow another STRATEGIC MISTAKE made by V. Putin in 2014, which stopped the offensive of the Donbass militias five kilometers from Mariupol and along the entire front of Novorossia ... It must be corrected! The West will not give another chance!

    It is within ten days in Ukraine and Belarus that the Future of Rus-Rusia is being decided! Otherwise - "New Khazaria" from the Baltic to the Black Sea ...
  33. 0
    19 August 2020 18: 12
    It would seem that he strove to build a welfare state, did everything for the people, did not allow the formation of an oligarchy and the plundering of the country, and the "ungrateful" people so unfairly remove the head of state from power for many years.
    Lukash is the most important oligarch in Belarus.
    1. +1
      19 August 2020 20: 14
      And you so wanted to squeeze a piece of state property into your pocket. But it didn't work. Sadness. laughing
      1. 0
        20 August 2020 14: 13
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        And you so wanted to squeeze a piece of state property into your pocket. But it didn't work. Sadness.

        And even as a ride, I got a very big hump from state property ... a hump between the shoulder blades. I'm not living in Belarus (I got a hump from Russia).
  34. +1
    19 August 2020 21: 31
    As some world experience shows, in order to become a prosperous economic power, it is enough to shoot and transmit with caterpillars only a small bunch of gorlopanov, approximately 0.0001% of the total population of the country. And immediately everything will go smoothly in the country.
  35. -1
    19 August 2020 22: 17
    Yeah, this is the dream of the entire Belarusian people - to become the pre-field of "ensuring Russia's security from the most dangerous western direction."
  36. 0
    20 August 2020 01: 52
    Luka will squeeze everyone, now almost all the organizers at the places trained by the West have been figured out or have already been planted, as Bortnikov's arrival showed, the dad draws the right conclusions and listens to advice, the example of Gaddafi and Yanyk is not to his liking, Granny Merkel has already gone through the forest, and this advice can be transmitted power to himself in a circle back and forth, well, he cut off his bow all the way to the west, although this is correct, he still put Kolya on his feet
  37. 0
    20 August 2020 04: 51
    Quote: TerribleGMO
    Quote: Dali

    The West has connected financial levers without hiding.

    The money is collected inside the Republic of Belarus. You certainly won't believe this.

    This money is NOT collected in Belarus - a fact.
  38. -2
    20 August 2020 06: 11
    All pro-Western and anti-Russian quirks of Lukashenka take place only on secondary matters, and are intended solely to demonstrate the political independence of Belarus from Russia. This is necessary in order for the whole world to see that the proximity of Belarus and Russia is not imposed by Moscow, but is a natural, conscious and voluntary choice of the overwhelming majority of Belarusians. However, on important issues (language, multi-confessionalism, an open border, military-technical cooperation, the memory of the Great Patriotic War, a categorical rejection of Russophobia and nationalism) Lukashenko is completely and completely our adherent. I emphasize: not "our man", but our equal associate. Therefore, in no case should he be allowed to overthrow him illegally. Even seemingly pro-Russian forces. If this happens, the pro-Russian "white maidan" will very quickly turn into a pro-Western and anti-Russian one. Because it will not be possible to contain the anti-Russian forces in Belarus without an authoritative leader, the West will help to promote them.
  39. 0
    20 August 2020 11: 47
    To save Belarus Lukashenka needs to act clearly and tough without looking back to the west and to Russia
    Otherwise, Belarus will, at best, face the fate of Ukraine in the worst case of Libya or Syria, but I hope it will not come to that.
  40. 0
    21 August 2020 09: 08
    The people in Belarus are pro-Russian. 95 percent.
    Any candidate who says that he is for Russia will win
  41. 0
    22 August 2020 05: 33
    “If Lukashenka rejects the pro-Russian scenario, he will face a prison in The Hague or liquidation, and the people of Belarus will face the unenviable fate of Polish slaves instead of the“ prosperity ”they expect in the European expanses.” That's right, especially if we compare the fate of Hussein, Gaddafi and ... Assad
  42. 0
    24 August 2020 09: 36
    If Russia does not keep Lukashenko in power, then it should expect something similar in 2024, but much more insidious and sophisticated and possibly very bloody. Therefore, now we are talking not only about Belarus, but mainly about the future of Russia.
  43. 0
    24 August 2020 09: 51
    It's just an ordinary conflict - fathers and children - children of the sub-branch - go away with a mustache. And the children simply do not have brains and experience due to their age - there is arrogance and a cry. And Akela is also strong and wise - listen to the father - grow up -!
  44. 0
    24 August 2020 16: 20
    Tell me, comrades of those comrades who are now against Lukashenka, and what are the banners under which adherents of democracy and this lady who disagree with Lukashenka's victory go out (forgive me all the time I forget how she is there)? Or has the national flag of Belarus changed?

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