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Looking from Gomel. Why is Minsk August not a "Crimean spring"?

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What happened?



My uncle Pasha, who is already well over 80, in the Russian Novozybkov, where almost every resident speaks fluently in three Slavic languages ​​at once, in these troubled days came both close and rather distant relatives from Gomel.

From a conversation with my uncle on the phone, I realized that there are four or five of them at once, or even more. Everyone voted for the "dad", as they say: "He did it, let him take the rap." The audience is mostly elderly, they came not only to see, but also to buy something in the city, which still lives on a fair amount of "Chernobyl" feeding.

But this does not prevent Novozybkov, which is rightly called a Slavic crossroads, to remain very cheap. This is a real hinterland, albeit a regional center. Well, in the neighboring Belarusian regional center it is now quite calm, relatives assure that even at Gomselmash they do not get too much buzz. Behind the fences of the plant, at least, Uncle Pasha's relatives did not notice anything special.

But trading in Gomel has been difficult for several weeks now: even the markets work through the stump of a deck. Stores - even more so. But once, back in the Soviet Union, we more than once stayed with one of the "uncles" - in a cozy and unthinkably green Gomel from April to October.

Looking from Gomel. Why is Minsk August not a "Crimean spring"?

This is if it happened to go to the rich markets there for food. Or go shopping in department stores with very good products from the Baltics and Poland - sometimes better than in the "Polish Fashion" in Moscow in the prestigious Southwest.

Their children grew up a long time ago and "branched off" in all directions, but most of them stay in Belarus with their families. It's no secret that for many years Belarusian citizenship has been a guarantee of stability for those who have it, albeit a modest one. Financial, social and, by and large, political. Unless, of course, you loudly campaigned against the local “father of the people”.

Anyone who, over the long years of Alexander Grigorievich's rule, managed to visit the "union" republic, be sure to compare it not only with Europe, but also with an exemplary collective farm. Here and widespread cleanliness, and always worked and everything like clockwork. And the offices are different, and trade, and museums with libraries, and cafe-restaurants, painfully reminiscent of old shtetl.

But after all, exemplary collective farms were no worse than "father's" in Soviet times, and even now one has only to look into Pavel Grudinin's farm in Vidnoye. It is difficult to say whether at least some of these guarantees remain for ordinary Belarusians today.

What is…


The winner of the election is not the first day repeating as a mantra: "work", but he himself constantly calls to Moscow, and then suddenly announced that he was ready to kneel. At BelAZ, they heeded and resumed work, at two more enterprises workers began negotiations with the management.

Relatives believe that others will soon change their minds. You can't play endlessly in the revolution. And then, God forbid, and the partisans will have to leave. "If only there was no war." Many of those for whom these are not empty words are still alive.

Lukashenka's team lost the information war long before the elections, although no one on the other side of the barricades preferred not to notice. The president of the country, which has always been almost Russia's only ally, has long turned the Russian press, even the official one, into almost one of his worst enemies.

Again, almost. It took very little to turn to face him. For a start - at least a little truth. But it is well known that the hardest thing to be honest is with yourself. Although it may not be too late to face the truth?

The people in Belarus have long been accustomed to the fact that any media is something "outside the brackets" or, if you like, even behind the TV screen. Most of the young have been wandering the networks for several years already, since they have always been in the country with them and everything was in order. And it was from the networks that the general public was literally bombarded with carefully sorted and structured information.

Now the turbid stream has grown not several times, but hundreds and thousands of times. TV was also connected, world-wide, of course, which many could withstand, for example, on a command from Moscow, but it seems they are not thirsty. Russia, it seems, like Gorchakov under Alexander II, "is not angry, but concentrated."

Although some kind of support for Lukashenka, more precisely, denials about the nationwide protest, if they do come, then, as a rule, from independent networkers. So, two Russian bloggers at once caught not just anyone, but the BBC itself, the world broadcaster, in an outright fraud.


Nowadays, even such frames may well turn out to be masterfully edited.

Dmitry Borisenko from the BBC staff immediately appreciated the true scale of the nationwide protest:

“I never thought that I would say thank you to the BBC for showing the footage showing the worthlessness of the protest in Minsk. I have said many times that all the pictures from the protests in Belarus are just well-chosen angles and plots. These are PR technologies. "

A Petersburger, but in spirit, it seems, is a real Leningrader, Borisenko was simply glad. The channel's commercials can hardly count more than a few hundred participants, and it is perfectly clear that because of the demonstration, it was not even necessary to block the street. And here is how blogger Vadim Rodchenko from Belgorod, who filmed crowds of thousands from a drone, commented on the BBS's puncture:

“… In Minsk on Pushkinskaya. And these people shout that "the whole Minsk has left"? Citizens, I have been filming mass actions with a drone for 10 years now. For the city of Minsk with two million inhabitants, this is nothing at all. Five thousand, and it will not be typed. "

And what's ahead ...


While Belarus and Belarusians are ahead - like a fog. The Belarusian president himself, one way or another, but at the moment officially legally elected, if not for the fourth or fifth time, but even for the thirty-fifth time, also avoids specifics. Someone thinks that he scares someone with calls to Moscow, but why is no one afraid?

Lukashenko demonstrates confidence that he will indeed receive from Moscow "comprehensive assistance to ensure the security of the Republic of Belarus." At the first request! However, didn't he confuse Belarus with Crimea? And didn't you squander all Russian patience?

It is hardly a secret for him that a denser alliance with Russia within the framework of the Union State in Belarus is by no means 100 percent. And not even 80, who, I do not exclude this, could vote for him. Previously, it was necessary to integrate - now they would sit with a Russian guarantor in a decorative presidential chair.


However, this already does not seem like a joke. Of course, they would not sit together, but in turns. And the Union State would still be better off, no matter in what form. And people are calmer, although Russia has been frightening them for too long. But hundreds of officials from the "union" apparatus will do less harm than good.

So far, the situation with other integration structures is a little better. By the way, they have much more experience in self-rescue. Let's start with the CSTO, which the Belarusian leader decided to refer to. The CSTO forces, in fact, should intervene only in the event of direct aggression, but is this really important now?

The generals will definitely not want to dissolve this office, although they are rarely asked. But there are too many common interests of all its participants, even with the damaged “Belarusian a tank". And the parallels with Crimea, where Russians were really expected, and even more so with Syria on the Belarusian occasion, are completely inappropriate.


Crimea (this is for the forgetful) then really waited for a completely different occupation, because in the Donbass the blooming Natsiks had already killed "ours", and Odessa did not happen out of the blue. And by the time the Russians arrived, Syria was completely burning in the war. It makes no sense for Russia to save the regime if it is really rotten, but the economy, which worked so smoothly, largely at the expense of Russia, would be worth saving.

But not with tanks. What is called - do not make an enemy out of a Belarusian. That is why there are good chances to keep afloat not only the CSTO, but also the EAEU, which, in fact, is still not far from the expanded version of the Customs Union.

Under the sanctions, which now can only be expected both in relation to Belarus, even if the "father" is moved, and to the address of Russia. But what about without her? This is where the Customs Union comes in handy - a bypass path that will help you remember both the Belarusian shrimp and the Belarusian sea.

By the way, Moscow would not forget about our Kaliningrad enclave, which these “friends of Belarusians” from Poland and Lithuania are literally eager to drive into a blockade, in the bustle with the supreme power of a neighbor.

EAEU



Remember, six or seven years ago we told Ukrainians about the alternative to the EU - the EAEU. They did not understand. Hopefully, the Belarusians will be more understanding. It is in Moscow that we understand that the flight from the EAEU to the EU is a complete absurdity. Given the current dependence of Minsk on Moscow. And the Gomel relatives understand this perfectly well, I know.

After leaving the EAEU, the economy of Belarus will last no more than a month. The oppositionists are now giving Lukashenka the same amount. But the border with Russia will not be closed for him, but for those who instead of him or after, access to the Russian market may be blocked immediately. And they can ask for debts too. Nobody even in the West and even in fake the news will not give a hint about anti-Russian or pro-Western slogans. Everyone is tired of only personally the former chairman of the former leading collective farm.

But Moscow, without belching and hiccups, swallowed the changes in Kyrgyzstan and Armenia, and they did not drop out of the EAEU. So it would be with Minsk if something happens. It will come in handy in any scenario. It's still worth learning from mistakes with Kiev. How to return the Belarusians, and not the official Republic of Belarus, into the Russian embrace is another task. For political strategists who have been working with the CSTO and the Union State for many years, this is hardly solvable.

There is, however, some hope that there are still bright minds in the structures of the EAEU, because they kept Armenia from escaping with the oppositionist in the prime minister's chair.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 18 August 2020 05: 19
    18
    Yesterday I watched in detail some of the rallies in Belarus.
    The whole chain of puppeteers was clearly visible ... everything was like in a military unit, each one fulfills his role in the rallies ... the puppeteers survived ... they began to throw prostitutes into battle as victims of the police ... both laughter and sin.
    Mostly young at the rallies ... they have more aggressive energy and are easy to control.
    Everything is exactly the same as the Ukrainian Maidan ... sometimes to the point of indecency.
    Now Lukashenka has to be very careful in his statements ... the enemy skillfully uses all his mistakes ... it's a pity that he does not listen to competent political strategists how to fight for the minds of young people ... I would recommend Lukashenko to organize his own propaganda ministry following the example of the United States.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 18 August 2020 05: 52
      +6
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      it is a pity that he does not listen to competent political strategists how to fight for the minds of young people ... I would recommend Lukashenka to organize his own propaganda ministry following the example of the United States.
      This is an interesting idea, but in practice it works something like this:

      1) it is necessary, with the help of propaganda, to fight for the minds of young people, to convey to them the necessary agenda and the correct view of the world. By winning the war for the minds, we are winning the war for the future
      2) please shut up someone Rogozin on Twitter
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 18 August 2020 05: 54
      20
      I don't want to say anything for the Belarusians - the choice of the president is their choice. Although Lukashenko showed himself to be the most economic and people-oriented president in the entire CIS. Who was better for ordinary people? Well, not Putin!

      But for Russia, Lukashenko has shown himself to be an extremely inconvenient partner trading in loyalty, who first promises, and then does his best to slow down integration plans. Because, in reality, he does not want this. After all, this is used exclusively for preferences.
      Nevertheless, no matter how convenient Lukashenka is, any other will be much worse for Russia. And Lukashenka also tried in this.

      But God bless him with Lukashenko, a question to the Kremlin - have you done anything to make the situation different? Otherwise, we observe the same rake again. Ukraine has already been lost. Belarus is questionable.
      1. apro
        apro 18 August 2020 06: 09
        +1
        Quote: Stas157
        But for Russia, Lukashenko proved to be an extremely uncomfortable partner,

        Not for Russia ... but for Russian capitalists.power having ... their hands grabbing.
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 August 2020 06: 10
          -2
          Quote: apro
          Quote: Stas157
          But for Russia, Lukashenko proved to be an extremely uncomfortable partner,

          Not for Russia ... but for Russian capitalists.power having ... their hands grabbing.

          he needs to feed his own.
          1. apro
            apro 18 August 2020 06: 12
            -9
            Quote: atalef
            he needs to feed his own.

            Sound the list dear ...
            1. atalef
              atalef 18 August 2020 07: 04
              0
              Quote: apro
              Quote: atalef
              he needs to feed his own.

              Sound the list dear ...

              Viktor Aleksandrovich Lukashenko (Belorussian Viktar Alyaksandaravich Lukashenka; born November 28, 1975, Mogilev) is the son of the President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko. Assistant to the President of Belarus for National Security, member of the Security Council of Belarus. First Vice-President of the National Olympic Committee of the Republic of Belarus

              Dmitriy Aleksandrovich Lukashenko (Belarusian Dzmitry Aleksandravich Lukashenka; born March 23, 1980, Mogilev) is the son of the President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko. He holds the post of chairman of the central council of the Belarusian republican state-public association "Presidential Sports Club" [1], is also a member of the NOC of Belarus [2].
              1. apro
                apro 18 August 2020 07: 08
                +2
                Well, of course ... and what kind of business is being held ... shares or a whole package of which factories ... raw materials ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 18 August 2020 07: 12
                  11 th
                  Quote: apro
                  Well, of course ... and what kind of business is being held ... shares or a whole package of which factories ... raw materials ...

                  The largest Belarusian telegram channel Nexta found $ 840 million on the accounts of the eldest son of the country's president. And at first I was shocked.
                  “Alexander Lukashenko, aka Sasha Three percent, is very fond of counting other people's money and accusing his opponents of embezzling funds. But he never spoke about his money. And we know why.
                  In the screenshot you can see the state of the account of Viktor Lukashenko (the eldest son responsible for all the special services in the country) in the Swiss Credit Suisse as of March 24, 2012. The amount is amazing - in terms of euros and Swiss francs it is $ 840 466 689. This is about 1,5% of the total GDP of Belarus and only in one banking institution, ”the channel writes.
                  1. apro
                    apro 18 August 2020 07: 14
                    -7
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: apro
                    Well, of course ... and what kind of business is being held ... shares or a whole package of which factories ... raw materials ...

                    The largest Belarusian telegram channel Nexta found $ 840 million on the accounts of the eldest son of the country's president. And at first I was shocked.
                    “Alexander Lukashenko, aka Sasha Three percent, is very fond of counting other people's money and accusing his opponents of embezzling funds. But he never spoke about his money. And we know why.
                    In the screenshot you can see the state of the account of Viktor Lukashenko (the eldest son responsible for all the special services in the country) in the Swiss Credit Suisse as of March 24, 2012. The amount is amazing - in terms of euros and Swiss francs it is $ 840 466 689. This is about 1,5% of the total GDP of Belarus and only in one banking institution, ”the channel writes.

                    I readily believe ... myself ...
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 18 August 2020 07: 16
                      0
                      Quote: apro
                      I readily believe ... myself ...

                      of course, you believe that Putin only has 2 Volga 21s and a Scythian trailer.
                      1. apro
                        apro 18 August 2020 07: 18
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        of course, you believe that Putin only has 2 Volga 21s and a Scythian trailer.

                        Dear Putin, do not confuse AGLukashenko ...
                      2. Roman246810
                        Roman246810 18 August 2020 13: 25
                        -6
                        The last two dictators in the USSR, clinging to power ..
                        It's hard not to confuse them ..))
                    2. Slavs
                      Slavs 18 August 2020 08: 46
                      10
                      Alexander, in Israel the Polish Telegram channel showed you a screenshot of the Swiss bank accounts ???
                      You run the risk of being considered a frivolous person ... Something from the OBS agency ...
                      Yes, and do not worry so much about Belarus and Russia, then what to you ... Take care of your nerves.
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 18 August 2020 07: 23
                  12
                  Sasha, Neksta is a very committed channel, and unlike Navalny, he does not provide documentary evidence. wink I think that if the accounts were really Lukashenka's son, the Pendos would have blocked them long ago. And they trumpeted about it all over the world. And now this is a stuffing according to the type of Grudinin's accounts.
                  P,. S. Hello Levoslavny! hi
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 18 August 2020 08: 26
                    +7
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I think that if the accounts were really Lukashenka's son, the Pendos would have blocked them long ago.

                    And such fools are dad and sons who laid out their accounts so that some Nexta would find it under her feet. Moreover, 50 year old fakes about "Swiss accounts" are going around. Smart people will hide so that no one will find. In general, the cheap wiring of our "general store".
                3. Same lech
                  Same lech 18 August 2020 07: 42
                  11
                  The largest Belarusian telegram channel Nexta found $ 840 million on the accounts of the eldest son of the country's president.

                  belay
                  It smells of rotten stuff ... like a telegram - the channel was able to find this on the accounts of the eldest son ... belay You haven't found the golden toilet in the outhouse of his dwelling yet?
                  Bring irrefutable proof ... the Swiss bank is controlled by the USA ... Lukashenka is not stupid enough to give his money to the Americans.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 18 August 2020 08: 32
                    +5
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    You haven't found the golden toilet in the outhouse of his dwelling yet?

                    Well, they found a golden loaf at Yanukovych, (I don't know what kind of idiot to be to create such a fake), and maybe they will soon fake about the toilet. Fakecomets are amazing people, where they studied and where they were treated to come up with loaves, toilets, bedrooms and kennels made of gold.
                  2. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 18 August 2020 09: 03
                    +2
                    It smells of rotten stuff ... like a telegram - the channel was able to detect this on the accounts ........ only through hacker hacking ..... pulls on the crime scene
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 18 August 2020 06: 21
        +5
        I agree. This is exactly what it is.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 18 August 2020 07: 18
        +4
        Quote: apro
        for Russian capitalists

        Most of them are not Russian at all. bully
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 18 August 2020 07: 42
      +7
      What else should the Kremlin have done? Oil and gas at reduced prices, open markets for Belarusian products without duties, loans at low rates. Stas, you and your bile have already ceased to perceive reality altogether. fool
      And like to work with the population - so your beloved collective farm chairman did everything to prevent Russia from acting in this direction. Any pro-Russian activist would simply clean up. Do you like the chairman? Suitcase, station and Minsk. You can even help him from your own pocket. Lavrov was definitely talking about you.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 18 August 2020 08: 29
        +4
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Suitcase, station and Minsk.

        By the way, I have always liked Belarus. Cleanliness, order. And I really wanted Belarus to continue to remain a union state. With all the disadvantages of Father, if instead of Putin there was Lukashenko, now the people of Russia would live much better. True, there would be fewer oligarchs and Putin's cronies at the trough. But we would somehow survive it.
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 19 August 2020 12: 08
          +2
          Quote: Stas157
          if instead of Putin there was Lukashenko, now the people of Russia would live much better.

          And we are discussing something here. There is a coup in the country as a result of the activities of the local father (even if he didn’t want to, but wanted the best), and the big man is sure that Luka, they say, needs instead of Putin and then we will live.
          Such people wandered around Kiev and are now trying to find them in Minsk. Some have already healed, others are not good for their example.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 19 August 2020 13: 07
          0
          The first paragraph of the commentary was deliberately ignored. You have a gang of verbiage and demagogues.
    4. CSKA
      CSKA 18 August 2020 13: 45
      +3
      Quote: Stas157
      Although Lukashenka has shown himself to be the most economic and people-oriented president in the entire CIS. Who was better for ordinary people? Well, not Putin!

      Exactly? On this million citizens of the Republic of Belarus in the Russian Federation to earn money?
      Quote: Stas157
      question to the Kremlin - have you done anything to make the situation different?

      And what should the genius of geopolitics do?
      Quote: Stas157
      Otherwise, we observe the same rake again. Ukraine has already been lost.

      In order not to lose Ukraine, what should have been done? to inflict a missile and bomb attack on the Maidan this? Let's feel free to share your tips.
      1. nikolai.shupenin
        nikolai.shupenin 18 August 2020 15: 56
        -2
        pay. but no money
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 18 August 2020 17: 08
          0
          Quote: nikolai.shupenin
          pay. but no money

          Whom to pay? You are like a child. Would a Pasol come to the Maidan in Kiev and start handing out money to the Westerners? And there is money. Not in the know what the budget of the Russian Federation and gold and foreign exchange reserves?
    5. nikolai.shupenin
      nikolai.shupenin 18 August 2020 15: 54
      +1
      and then the war ... not today, of course, about 15 years will pass
  2. atalef
    atalef 18 August 2020 06: 05
    -4
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Yesterday I watched in detail some of the rallies in Belarus.
    The whole chain of puppeteers was clearly visible ... everything was like in a military unit, each one fulfills his role in the rallies ... the puppeteers survived ... both laughter and sin.

    watched the rally * for Lukoshenko * - the same picture.

    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Now Lukashenka has to be very careful in his statements ... the enemy skillfully uses all his mistakes ..

    he just got tired of all Belarusians.
    By falsifying the elections, he simply deceived the people.
    people don't like being deceived.
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    I would recommend Lukashenka to organize his own propaganda ministry following the example of the United States.

    people cannot be fooled.
    In the USSR, there was propaganda 24 hours a day.
    What's the point?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 18 August 2020 06: 17
      12
      In the USSR, there was propaganda 24 hours a day.

      It was profanity and not propaganda ... they showed the unfortunate blacks beaten by the capitalists ... who didn't want to work and live on welfare without doing anything.
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 August 2020 06: 53
        -9
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        It was profanation, not propaganda.

        everyone imagines himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side.
        Here is a profanation in Belarus and in Russia by the way the same
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        . showed the unfortunate blacks slaughtered by the capitalists.

        you are also convinced that the bourgeois and capitalists will come and bend everyone down.
        And the truth is that Luxembourg. germany. France. sweden. Norway, etc., etc. --- cap. countries and workers there live somehow better than in the light of socialism of the USSR and its faithful successors in the person of Venezuela. Bolivia and DPRK
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 18 August 2020 06: 56
          10
          Yes, yes selectively give an example ... but how does Romania, Greece, Bulgaria ... the poorest countries of the European Union live.
          When the bourgeoisie come in, they first bend everyone down like the 90s smile forgot how they threw people out into the street ... forgot the massive robbery and deception of the population.
          1. pytar
            pytar 18 August 2020 09: 00
            -1
            Yes, yes selectively give an example ... but how does Romania, Greece, Bulgaria ... the poorest countries of the European Union live.

            Stop telling stories, Alexey! They live normally, no worse than the richest country in natural resources in the world, or even better! EU most successful voluntary political and economic unification of European countries in history! Not without shoals, but this is an active project, and the Russian Federation, with its oligarchic-autocratic structure, has no alternative competitive project! Unfortunately!
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 18 August 2020 19: 51
              -2
              Quote: pytar
              The EU is the most successful voluntary political and economic unification of European countries in history!

              And what did Great Britain come out of this successful club?
              Quote: pytar
              Not without jambs, but this is a valid project

              Until. But seven fat years have passed; seven hungry years have passed. And I will look at your optimism in the future.
          2. A.TOR
            A.TOR 18 August 2020 16: 12
            -1
            The bourgeois did not come - they are Russians themselves, there is no russer. Overwhelmingly.
            In Russia, people were thrown out by their yesterday's colleagues in the nation, and robbed and deceived.
            I think that in Belarus everything will be - even if not immediately - calmly, in a European way, something similar to Slovakia and Sweden. The people are calm, very clean, incl. morally, hard-working.
            At the same time - what is important first of all - peaceful, proud and not embittered.
          3. atalef
            atalef 18 August 2020 19: 46
            -3
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            Yes, yes selectively give an example ... but how does Romania, Greece, Bulgaria ... the poorest countries of the European Union live.

            but their standard of living is higher than Russian
        2. tatra
          tatra 18 August 2020 08: 13
          +6
          The mentally deceitful enemies of the communists always rip out of the common only what is beneficial to them. Thus, they compare socialism in the USSR not with capitalism in the Republic of Ingushetia and their "independence" on the territory of the USSR they had captured, not with capitalism in the world, but only with the parasitic countries of the "golden billion".
        3. Slavs
          Slavs 18 August 2020 08: 57
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          And the truth is that Luxembourg. germany. France. sweden. Norway, etc., etc. --- cap. countries and workers there live somehow better than in the light of socialism of the USSR and its faithful successors in the person of Venezuela. Bolivia and DPRK

          Yes, because everything you have listed, plus all of which you have not listed, strangle everything that remains of the USSR as much as they can ... And the Union was simply afraid.
        4. nikolai.shupenin
          nikolai.shupenin 18 August 2020 15: 58
          +1
          they don't steal in billions
      2. Jager
        Jager 18 August 2020 07: 12
        +3
        About blacks, nothing has changed since then))
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 18 August 2020 06: 45
      11
      Quote: atalef
      he just got tired of all Belarusians.

      Lukashenka's popularity among the people has been greatly shaken. People are against him. But bad luck - and if not he, then who? Also the picture that Putin has. Both of them did everything to clean up their political clearing.

      But if the West has some candidates, then Russia has no one except Lukashenka. Why is this picture formed? It's simple. The West nurtures and supports any pro-Western opposition, and Russia ... only Lukashenko. It would be a stretch to call it pro-Russian.
      1. pytar
        pytar 18 August 2020 09: 03
        +3
        But bad luck - and if not he, then who? Also the picture that Putin has. Both of them did everything to clean up their political clearing.

        A classic in the genre - autocracy! With all the far-reaching consequences ...
      2. nikolai.shupenin
        nikolai.shupenin 18 August 2020 16: 04
        0
        until the west takes over all the former, under the wing of NATO under the control of the United States. will not calm down. and then the war
    3. Mitroha
      Mitroha 18 August 2020 07: 21
      +7
      By falsifying the elections, he simply deceived the people.

      Tell me, do you have proof? And then "everyone" speaks, speaks, but no one has provided evidence as such, except for a firm belief in this.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 18 August 2020 07: 43
        +7
        Quote: Mitroha
        Tell me, do you have proof? And then "everyone" speaks, speaks, but no one has provided evidence as such, except for a firm belief in this.

        Furthermore! The opposition refused to count ballots !!! Why's that? We would take it, stand over the head of the counting people, and let's go! You can even put up European observers! Don't say that all the ballots have already been destroyed!
        1. Terrible GMO
          Terrible GMO 18 August 2020 10: 15
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          Furthermore! The opposition refused to count ballots !!! Why's that? We would take it, stand over the head of the counting people, and let's go!

          Very interesting. Of more than ten thousand applications from the population to participate in the counting of votes, less than a dozen people went to PECs (precinct election commissions).

          Observers from the same population and not members of the pro-government organizations were not allowed to the polling stations, and even more so to count when voting.

          In most of the country, the final protocols were not posted, but they themselves were taken out by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and OMON along with the commissions.
          The official authorities say that the recount is impossible, and it is no longer possible to tell what the final protocol was at this or that site. And the opposition does not want to count all this. Uma ward, right?

          PS And the ballots have already been burned. Not the opposition.
      2. vvvjak
        vvvjak 18 August 2020 10: 11
        +1
        Quote: Mitroha
        Tell me, do you have proof?

        Well, who leaves such evidence. There is at least one confession of the chairman of the electoral district, there is a lot of testimony from observers about the registration of the preliminary vote, there are many inconsistencies. For example, at the polling stations where the observers of Tikhanovskaya's headquarters were present, she won, but at the neighboring one across the road she did not. There are statistics on past elections - in the entire Mogilev region, 303 people voted "against all", and in one small Buda-Koshelevsky district - 321, and in Kobrin district more than 5 thousand. If the last elections were attended by independent observers who noted the complete non-transparency of counting there were no votes at all, and so on. Moreover, our country is not very large and information travels very quickly. From my social circle, only one person voted for AHL - my nephew is 19 years old. True, when her friend was released from the IVS (after being detained at a protest rally) and he told about what was happening there, the person had a nervous shock. In the end, the AGLu himself personally admitted that the elections were constantly rigged as early as 2014. There is only one answer to all the uncomfortable questions the authorities have - you will get the country only through my corpse.
    4. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 18 August 2020 07: 46
      +5
      Dumped the most unreliable from the USSR, left for the sausage. And now they poke their nose into VO everywhere. Return the Golan of Syria to begin with, and then worry about the fate of Belarus.
    5. Boris55
      Boris55 18 August 2020 08: 11
      -3
      Quote: atalef
      In the USSR, there was propaganda 24 hours a day. What's the point?

      In the USSR, there was not propaganda, but ideology and the head of the ideological apparatus of the party was comrade. Suslov, whose goal was to liquidate the USSR, with which he successfully coped.

      ps
      Propaganda - speaks openly about the pursued goal.
      Ideology - turns the goal into forms that are convenient for citizens, hiding true intentions.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 18 August 2020 16: 07
        +1
        Boris55, "Propaganda is Not an Ideology"? You're just a genius! And warm, it means, NOT soft, so it turns out? How old are you? - this question legitimately arises. Since you don’t realize that propaganda is one of the tools of ideology.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 19 August 2020 07: 57
          0
          Quote: andrew42
          that propaganda is one of the tools of ideology.

          Tell me, then what is the name of what speaks the truth?

          As soon as propaganda starts not to finish talking, to hide something, it becomes ideology stasis. They use the same tools: paintings, posters, newspapers, magazines, movies, performances, advertisements, etc. The difference is that some openly promote their goals to the masses, while others do not.

          ps
          "Ideology - a product of ideological power, controlled by conceptual power.

          Ideology - This is the concept of governance, set out in a way that is understandable to the masses of the people so that it does not cause them to be rejected, much less actively targeted against it. The object of influence of ideological power is the whole society, however, with the exception of those who are themselves conceptually powerful, and therefore stand above ideological power. Ideology is needed for conceptual power in order to form a worldview of people in society corresponding to the chosen concept so that people are under its power in changing life circumstances.

          The function of ideological power - to clothe a conceptually beneficial concept in such ideological forms in which it would appear in the opinion of people handsome and therefore acceptable, in which the concept would not cause rejection, and even more so - a targeted active opposition to the introduction of the concept into management practice up to the development and implementation into the life of an alternative concept to her.

          Freedom from ideologies - This is self-deception, but not spontaneous psychological, but purposefully cultivated by conceptual power. An ideology can be understood or not understood, accepted or denied, but members of society always encounter manifestations of one or another ideology, which is the shell of the concept of managing society from the side of conceptual power carriers.

          Ideological power is conceptually powerless, since it only adapts the concept to specific historical circumstances and is not capable of developing a concept.

          The quality of life of society:

          - first of all, it is determined by the management concept - its essence;
          - secondly, it is determined by the quality of management within the framework of this concept. "

          Sources of the USSR VP - Oracle: social institution and political technology
    6. Olgovich
      Olgovich 18 August 2020 08: 41
      -1
      Quote: atalef
      By falsifying the elections, he simply deceived the people.
      people don't like being deceived.

      1. Is it installed by WHO?

      ANYONE! Some screams, suspicions, emotions.

      Let them go to the COURT and establish legally falsifications and there will be no questions. Nobody. I will be the first to agree with your statement if the court confirms it.

      Otherwise, why on earth should the voices of the screamers "against" weigh / be worth more than the votes of the silent "for"?

      CEC:
      Arguments that are in essence cannot serve as grounds for satisfying complaints presumptive character",


      Do not agree? to court! And not to rallies.

      11 years ago, tens of thousands of youths, after the "terrible obvious falsification" of the elections by the "dictator" President Voronin, went to the center of Chisinau under the slogans "Freedom!"Change is us! (it looks like, huh?), "We are the power!" Down with! "and so on, burning buildings and stoning the police. Twitter revolution was called that action.

      So here-not a single fact falsifications for already 11 years-it has not been established-everything has remained FALSE provocations, and people have already died, the Parliament has been burned, the legitimate government has been defamed.

      By the way, the votes were recounted again - no deviations were found, but WHO was already interested in this?

      And yes, the winning majority did not go to the rallies "FOR" at all, in contrast to the lost screaming minority "Against".

      All this has already been passed.

      Therefore, it is necessary not to demolish, but to UNDERSTAND according to the Law and with a cool head in order to protect the voices and those who SECRETLY made their choice and are not at all obliged to show it publicly
      and prove (there are a lot of reasons).

      PS of the consequences of the victorious "revolution" of "freedom lovers": after it, they grew at times: corruption, theft, lack of rights of citizens, arbitrariness of the authorities, impoverishment, flight abroad, collapse, etc.

      And this despite the moderate support of the EU and the USA and the billions of euros in loans and grants they pumped in ...
  3. Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 August 2020 06: 44
    +7
    Everything is exactly the same as the Ukrainian Maidan
    and not only, they also destroyed the Union
  4. mikhailovich22
    mikhailovich22 18 August 2020 07: 15
    +6
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    The whole chain of puppeteers was clearly visible ... everything was like in a military unit, each one fulfills his role in the rallies ... the puppeteers survived ... they began to throw prostitutes into battle as victims of the police ... both laughter and sin.

    Here is the question, who is the puppeteer in the case of prostitutes? If a girl has been detained for prostitution more than ten times, then she may well turn out to be a sexot.
  5. Civil
    Civil 18 August 2020 07: 43
    -6
    So who is going to wind the guts of the protesters Belarusians on the trucks? Belarusian tanks, Russian tanks, CSTO tanks. Cross out 1 incorrect option. Black humor, but we are waiting for the Kremlin's move.
    1. EgorMinsk
      EgorMinsk 18 August 2020 07: 58
      0
      Are you out of your mind?
      1. Civil
        Civil 18 August 2020 08: 32
        0
        Quote: EgorMinsk
        Are you out of your mind?

        Have you read the comments on the site? Do not be lazy, everyone says one thing - "just not to lose Belarus" by any methods, here is one of "any methods" for example.
        1. EgorMinsk
          EgorMinsk 18 August 2020 09: 10
          +1
          Killing the wrong Belarusians? Is this your method? I understood everything correctly ???
          1. Civil
            Civil 18 August 2020 11: 49
            -3
            Quote: EgorMinsk
            Killing the wrong Belarusians? Is this your method? I understood everything correctly ???

            Not mine, I'm talking about the general meaning of the demands of the mass of commentators. No one will allow Belarusians to decide for themselves and flee to the West.
          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 18 August 2020 19: 54
            -3
            Why kill right away? They themselves will die out like in Ukraine. Not fitting into the market. Stupidity is punishable. You are digging your own grave.
            1. EgorMinsk
              EgorMinsk 18 August 2020 20: 40
              +1
              We ourselves want to decide how we live. Don't do it for us. Why does he plant his will on his neighbors? Why are you better than the USA then ???
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 19 August 2020 12: 53
                -1
                Personally, it suits me that you decide everything yourself. At least when you start a full paragraph after your independent decisions, there will be no complaints against us. Then we will cut with the rest of the fighters for democracy what remains of Belarus. We will destroy competitive enterprises. Let's take our market share. And plus a large part of the young active population will move to us, which will help us a lot in terms of demography. And if the independent national government that will remain in Belarus will excite and try to put a spoke in our wheels, I am in favor of multiplying these scum by zero without any pity. That is, of course, I will feel sorry for the children of women and old people. But when choosing my own and others', of course I will choose mine. And you Velikolitvinskie Natsik strangers even to Belarusians, what can we say about the Russian.
                1. EgorMinsk
                  EgorMinsk 19 August 2020 13: 20
                  0
                  You are a typical chauvinist and not entirely healthy person. Adolf Aloizovich would be pleased with you! Bravo!!!
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 19 August 2020 14: 56
                    -1
                    Egorka. Fascist and stupid Natsik is you. And I only pragmatically approach the issues of economics and politics. Nothing personal, just business. Get used to it.
                    1. EgorMinsk
                      EgorMinsk 19 August 2020 16: 12
                      +1
                      You are also a boor.
                    2. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 19 August 2020 18: 30
                      -1
                      And on the question there is something to say? Or do the high-quality ones with the logic of facts and arguments suck?
  6. andrew42
    andrew42 18 August 2020 16: 10
    0
    Civilian, the guts of the Belarusians will be reeled up by Polish tanks. 5-6 months after Belarus joins the "EU candidates", when the current strikers will have a severe hangover.
    1. EgorMinsk
      EgorMinsk 18 August 2020 20: 42
      0
      A scarecrow from Lukashenka's arsenal.
  • dzvero
    dzvero 18 August 2020 09: 31
    0
    I also follow the news. And you know, something leads to heretical thoughts. Strange actions of the administration and the AHL; indistinct confessions of two or three chairmen of the commissions; elimination of pro-Russian candidates from participation, to nominate “pro-European-minded housewives” to the "opposition" ... general theatricality of what is happening ... PMSM protests under a hood. The reason is the interception of cash flows. In Ukraine, the United States spent 5 lard on Russia's acquisition of Crimea. There is probably less money in the Republic of Belarus - but there is a lot of lard for two. Such amounts do not lie on the road. But! I would not be surprised if a significant part of this money goes directly into the hands of the special services, and protests are a classic fraud for "investors". They have eliminated the iconic figures, which means that the environment is in charge there, but there is no information about him. So why not clean up the money allocated for the revolution. At the rate "1 dollar - 1 Belarusian ruble" or even 2-3: 1.
    The rapid recognition of the AHL of the Russian Federation and China, and the "strange" silence of all political heavyweights, and the "abduction" of PMCs and "abuse" with Russia fit well into this model ...
  • viralig
    viralig 18 August 2020 15: 46
    +5
    Comrade Alexey, you would not look at the pictures, but come and appreciate the real picture.
    I can say one thing that people of different ages come and do not stick around endlessly (you know, life goes on and not only on the square, and children also need to be fed). The team led by the AG clings to power in every possible way. They feel good and comfortable in that muddy swamp in which they turned Belarus. Vaughn, the author of the article refers to the Belarusian media that no one believes except for the final zombie. And what did they want, so many years of lies from the screen, it is not surprising that people are looking for the truth in a big garbage dump called the INTERNET. Because at least you can find it there. And according to BT, if they said that prices will not rise, they will definitely raise.

    The bulk of the people specifically hates Lukashenka, because all this comes from him. Laws do not work, only decrees. Apparently it is pleasant for an ordinary Belarusians with a salary of 300-500r (about 150-250 dollars) to watch how the head of state drives a Maybach or Tesla, gives a plane to a minor son. Moreover, the worker injects with hard physical labor. And AG apparently has such a tight schedule that he can mow, play hockey, and find entertainment for himself - just not to work. And in the wake of him and his slips. Well, they have no thoughts about direct responsibilities. And yes, with what such profits are such expenses?
    And the person who was filming Lukashenka on the phone was arrested (here's a Belarusian rule-of-law state, where rights are in power, and people have responsibilities).

    Here you ay yay yay will not be Lyukashenko - everything is lost. Didn't you think that those who come after him will need to take into account the economic component? And it is by no means in favor of the zapodniki, otherwise these same men from the machine will express their FI and not as quietly as now. Or are you outraged that ordinary Belarusians DO NOT WANT TO BE RUNNER?

    About power. It must be replaced so that there is no stagnation, otherwise death in the best case of the economy, the worst of the state.

    About the article. Not at all. And yours and ours, and as a result to anyone. In general, no one knows how to sort out this situation, and how the situation will develop. And all the same, without even bothering to systematize and analyze that gigantic beat of information received in recent days, not taking into account social stratification, debt burden and a bunch of factors, makes crude conclusions, ala I see.

    And your beloved Lukashenko did not find anything better than to propose once again to rewrite the CONSTITUTION, apparently wants to legitimize the monarchy and become a tsar. And that, not in the first one he rewrites for himself. He is "the master of his word" - he wanted to say, wanted to take it back, or even denies it altogether.
    And if he drives whim into his head, he will certainly realize no matter how insanity it is.
    And you rejoice in him further. Come here and he will give YOU a clamp.
    1. tank64rus
      tank64rus 21 August 2020 09: 50
      +2
      That's when your directors and officials, and they are the driving force behind the coup attempt, and not those idiots. who run through the streets with posters. They have one goal of privatization and withdrawal of assets of the Belarusian economy to the West. They dream of becoming businessmen shaking hands in the West, this is very doubtful, but they dream. Well, the Belarusian people are only a means to achieve this goal. Then you will feel the full clamp on your neck. We went through this in Russia in the 90s. Therefore, they nominated a candidate, who is NOT WHO, so that she can uncontrollably dispose of power in case of success. And this problem will not go away from you.
  • bulava
    bulava 19 August 2020 12: 18
    +1
    You are absolutely right. I, too, immediately noticed all these strong guys of athletic appearance in the forefront. Literally a couple of days they were in the photo, and then once they are gone. And already "mirnyak" with balloons and placards. But the deed is done. Corrupt pro-Western journalists made the necessary shots and pumped them through all channels. But Father had to introduce the curfew officially on the very first day, and before the elections, not to drive the men to sanatoriums, but to carry out targeted work to identify potential provocateurs and the fifth column.
  • Navel
    Navel 21 August 2020 13: 21
    0
    An interesting little article. Let's go over the key phrases of the stuffing:

    The first group: "everyone voted for" daddy "," a fair amount of "Chernobyl" feeding "," they don't get too busy "," there are rich markets "," products from the Baltic states and Poland - sometimes better than in "Polish Fashion" in Moscow on prestigious South-West "," father of the people "," union "republic" necessarily "is compared with Europe," exemplary collective farms "," others will soon come to their senses "," if only there was no war "," caught on an outright manipulation of the BBC. "

    Eyeliner: in Belarus "everything is fine, beautiful marquise", everything else is enemy propaganda. The people for the "father of the people"))), dissenters "come to their senses."

    The second group: "it was necessary to integrate earlier", "parallels with Crimea, where Russians were really expected, and even more so with Syria on the Belarusian occasion, are completely inappropriate", "don't make an enemy out of a Belarusian", "sanctions, which are now like in relation to Belarus , and to the address of Russia "," Kaliningrad enclave, which these "friends of Belarusians" from Poland and Lithuania literally can't wait to drive into the blockade ",

    Eyeliner: Belarus is independent, but Russia should solve its problems, or it will be worse)))

    Apotheosis: "how to return the Belarusians, and not the official Republic of Belarus, to the Russian embrace - this is still a task."

    Counter question: Why? Russia all the time dated every Belarusian with low prices for gas, oil (low communal flat), bought its goods to the detriment of its interests, creating jobs, gave loans, preventing local enterprises from closing .... Someone said "thank you" to the Kremlin? No.
    Has this practice been a failure? - obviously yes.
    It must be folded.

    It is necessary to change the approach and offer exclusively targeted assistance to local pro-Russian media, bloggers, educational institutions, syabras who decide to move to Russia for permanent residence (in the Far East, for example). And not to subsidize indiscriminately all the population of Belarus. On the one hand, this will give concrete results, and secondly, it will save a lot of money for solving purely Russian problems.

    And Sineoka's problems ... these are primarily her problems.

    To the author: about goods from the Baltic States and Poland, this is flying)))))))
    1. Navel
      Navel 21 August 2020 13: 41
      +1
      + the author, apparently. does not understand that the word "European" for the Russian began to bear a negative connotation. Therefore, the emphasis on the Europeanness of Belarus and its ties with Lithuania and Poland (enemies of Russia) causes rejection. BUT! puts all the dots over ё))
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 18 August 2020 05: 30
    +1
    “Do not wish good, you will not receive evil in return!” It would be high time for the Kremlin to start living by this proverb. Oddly enough, I agree that the bow should go, but not escape! He is obliged to change, together with the people, the constitution, stipulating in it the maximum term of the presidency, he is obliged to keep these words, not to scatter threats and insults at Russia, to which he ran for help, suddenly forgetting about 33 Russian citizens illegally arrested. Rallies are good, but the Belarusians should be much smarter than the Ukrainian people, not to let foreigners into the country, and even more so to power, who will "finish off" the economy of Belarus. And, those three who fled from the republic, presidential candidates should leave their politicians, they should be prohibited from running for any office in the republic. Having betrayed once, they will always betray! They were not at the rallies, they were sitting abroad, there they were brainwashed, and now they are not Belarusian presidential candidates, but agents of influence of NATO countries and the United States! "Fear the Danes who bring gifts!" With the departure of the bow in Belarus, everything should change for the better, but the main thing is that the people should not be dragged into a civil war, so that it does not work out like a Ukrainian! The Belarusians themselves and without the "help" of the West must decide for themselves how and with whom they are going along the way!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 18 August 2020 05: 37
      +9
      The Belarusians themselves and without the "help" of the West must decide for themselves how and with whom they are going along the way!

      This is naive ... Poland climbs, Macron sticks his snout in the same place ... Merkel ... in general, Belarus is a tidbit for the bourgeoisie ... how many things can be robbed there ... the main thing is to overthrow the current government ... and then you see Biden with Soros they will catch up with Belarusian goods.
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 August 2020 06: 09
        10 th
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        It's naive ... Poland is climbing, Macron is sticking his snout there ... Merkel ..

        Putin is not fussing?
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        . In general, Belarus is a tasty morsel for the bourgeoisie.

        bourgeois? Look who's Talking .
        What country do you live in?
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        . how much you can rob there.

        all business and all enterprises of Belarus under Lukoshenko and his entourage.
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        and there you see, Biden and Soros will catch up with Belarusian goods.

        what about this case in Russia 7
        Who controls your property?
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 18 August 2020 06: 20
          +7
          Opened smile the bestial essence of capitalism ...
          What do you prefer? ... to give Belarus to Biden or our oligarchs?
          Maybe you think that someone will let the Belarusians manage their own economy?
          You have to understand if not we, then our sworn partner-competitor will do it for us.
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 August 2020 06: 58
            -3
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            What do you prefer? ... to give Belarus to Biden or our oligarchs?

            I think the Belarusians themselves should choose this.
            Although judging by the standard of living in you and in Europe, the answer is obvious.
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            Maybe you think that someone will let the Belarusians manage their own economy?

            Do you manage it yourself?
            So why are you better?
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            You have to understand if not us then our sworn partner-competitor will do it for us

            in order to be chosen you have to be better.
            This is the only criterion, and now answer - are you really better?
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 18 August 2020 07: 04
              +5
              No i'm not better smile as well as you ... but I am also not naive.
              You are watching how Ukraine is developing and who is in charge of it ... maybe this example is not enough for you.
              Now you want Belarus to follow this path ... of course, in the information war, I will fight against this.
              1. atalef
                atalef 18 August 2020 07: 15
                -4
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                You are watching how Ukraine is developing and who is in charge of it ... maybe this example is not enough for you.

                I don't know what Ukraine has to do with it, but it's enough for me to look at Russia and, say, France - how they are developing and who is in charge there - an example is far from in your favor.
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Now you want Belarus to follow this path.

                Whose path should she take? In Russian or what?
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                . of course in the information war I will fight against it.

                and campaign for .....?
                1. Same lech
                  Same lech 18 August 2020 07: 20
                  +4
                  I don't know what Ukraine has to do with it,

                  Well then, you don't know a lot. smile ...very sorry.
                  Whose path should she take? In Russian or what?

                  And why not ... not in Ukrainian. hi
                  and campaign for .....?

                  For the interests of Russia. smile
                  I am not indifferent to whose hands Belarus will be. hi
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 18 August 2020 07: 49
                    +4
                    Don't see him. He is crushed by a common Jewish toad.
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 18 August 2020 07: 48
                  +3
                  Watch further. Your dear Peter has long surpassed many European capitals in cleanliness and tidiness. Is the toad strangling?
                3. Slavs
                  Slavs 18 August 2020 09: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  France - how they are developing and who runs there

                  And who is in charge there? French people ? )))
          2. EgorMinsk
            EgorMinsk 18 August 2020 08: 01
            +8
            It's funny to hear how my homeland is divided))).
        2. Slavs
          Slavs 18 August 2020 08: 59
          0
          Quote: atalef
          what about this case in Russia 7

          Why are you so worried about Russia? ))))
      2. Pravodel
        Pravodel 18 August 2020 07: 29
        +4
        You're right. Not only will they catch up, but they are already sitting there. After all, all these directors of enterprises who organized the strikes are just their 5th column. They wait and see how, after Lukashenka leaves, they will begin to plunder Belaya Rus, taking the factories, mines and mines they manage to their own and their relatives' pockets, acquiring national wealth and property for a pittance. Then we will see the new coming of the privatization of Chubais and Gaidar, not by nightfall their damned names will be remembered ...
        The only question is where the Belarusians will run, when to lose their jobs. The situation will be worse than in Ukraine, where at least the owners of privatized enterprises are interested in their preservation. Here, for the directors of their state enterprises - a big trough, a pocket from which you need to have time to scoop up, yes, more, until everything is stolen ...
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 18 August 2020 05: 39
      +4
      Quote: Thrifty
      The Belarusians themselves and without the "help" of the West must decide for themselves how and with whom they are going along the way!

      "done" already ... "anaconda loop" is compressed.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 18 August 2020 07: 27
        +2
        Well, actually, a lot of people fall on Luka from Russia. Why? An interesting question. I have been following the Belarusian issue for a long time and noticed one interesting feature - relations with the Belarusian president changed dramatically after P disappeared for a while and then appeared and after which the Belarusian president at one time stopped pronouncing the phrase "Russian president" and "Vladimir Vladimirovich" replacing them with the words "Kremlin", "Moscow", etc. After a while, various nishtyaks from the EU and the lifting of sanctions, etc., fell on the Belarusian president. And Luka again began to utter "correct phrases."
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 18 August 2020 05: 39
    +4
    Hmm, I would not want NATO missiles to be deployed in Belarus under fascist flags.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 18 August 2020 05: 44
      +2
      NATO is secondary ... the goal of the EU capitalists is to economically enslave Belarus ... by liquidating all significant Belarusian enterprises ... Russia has already gone through this ... and Belarus is now on the edge of this abyss.
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 August 2020 06: 02
        11 th
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        . having liquidated all significant Belarusian enterprises ... Russia has already gone through this ... and Belarus is now standing on the edge of this abyss.

        Has Russia passed?
        then it is clear why Lukashenka was so against the union state. wink
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 18 August 2020 06: 23
          +1
          Lukashenka was so against the union state.

          The process is natural ... this bulldozer of historical realism will sweep away Lukashenka if he cannot use him in his own interests ... such is the se la vie ...
          Belarus is not Cuba ... surrounded by wolves ... nowhere to hide.
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 August 2020 06: 55
            -8
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            Belarus is not Cuba ... surrounded by wolves ... nowhere to hide

            the situation is such that half of the country is ready to escape to the wolves (this also applies to Russia)
            ask any person in the same Russia where he would prefer to live in case of moving - in Belarus or Germany or Sweden.
            What do you think the answer will be?
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 18 August 2020 07: 01
              +8
              any person in the same Russia where he would prefer to live in the event of moving - in Belarus or Germany or Sweden.

              I asked myself alreadysmile ... in Russia and not in any Belarus, Germany or Sweden ... I want to work to the best of my ability to make my country prosperous and rich so that I don't have to run somewhere for happiness in a foreign country.
              Therefore, I disdain runners who want freebies ... without making any effort to make their homeland successful.
            2. Inorus
              Inorus 18 August 2020 07: 55
              +6
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              Belarus is not Cuba ... surrounded by wolves ... nowhere to hide

              the situation is such that half of the country is ready to escape to the wolves (this also applies to Russia)
              ask any person in the same Russia where he would prefer to live in case of moving - in Belarus or Germany or Sweden.
              What do you think the answer will be?

              Personally, I am in Russia. "Homeland
              I'm going home
              Let them scream - ugly
              And we like her
              Although not a beauty
              Gullible to the bastards
              Well, and to us - tra-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la ... "(C).
            3. Slavs
              Slavs 18 August 2020 09: 02
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              half of the country is ready to flee (this also applies to Russia)

              There are a lot of people like you ... Unfortunately.
      2. Deniska999
        Deniska999 18 August 2020 06: 20
        +3
        Can you prove this interest with the help of specific material? For example, analysis of exports / imports, main trading partners, GDP structure, its dynamics, main channels of investment, etc. Maybe there is nothing to enslave.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 18 August 2020 06: 31
          +4
          Can you prove this interest with the help of specific material?

          And here we have to rely on the immortal Marx Karl, dear with his Capital ...
          The first thing that the Soros will do when they come to power will seize the strategic enterprises of Belarus ... liquidate what is not profitable ... then they will clean up the Belarusian market from unnecessary producers and free the sales market for goods from the EU and the USA ... it's like twice two is four.
          Naturally, this will be accompanied by a massive brainwashing of the people and a classic scam like it was with Chubais ... nothing new ... all according to the classics of the genre of wild capitalism.
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 August 2020 07: 07
            -3
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            Then they will cleanse the Belarusian market from unnecessary producers and free the sales market for goods from the EU and the USA ... it's like twice two is four.

            what is the point of freeing the market for goods from the EU. if the people are poor and can not buy anything? request
            do not dock you.
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            Naturally, this will be accompanied by a massive brainwashing of the people and a classic scam like it was with Chubais ... nothing new ... all according to the classics of the genre of wild capitalism.

            that is, like it was in Russia. So how is it ?
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 18 August 2020 07: 10
              +2
              what is the point of freeing the market for goods from the EU. if the people are poor

              And then what is the point of the EU poking its nose into Belarus ... there is an economic crisis in the yard and someone has to become a sacrificial lamb to make up for the EU's economic losses ... it's so obvious ... the wolf wants to eat.
              like it was in Russia. So how is it ?

              smile It helped me get rid of the illusions of both socialism and capitalism.
              1. atalef
                atalef 18 August 2020 10: 07
                +1
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                ..the economic crisis is in the yard and someone has to become a sacrificial lamb to make up for the economic losses of the EU ... it's so obvious ... the wolf wants to eat.

                Will Belarus make up for EU economic losses?
                What do we smoke?
                1. Lech from Android.
                  Lech from Android. 18 August 2020 13: 47
                  -1
                  The same as you. smile
      3. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 18 August 2020 07: 45
        -3
        I agree that the economic aspect is also important. If Poland stretches from one country to another, then it will control gas transit and trade between Russia and the EU.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 18 August 2020 06: 26
    +7
    Lukashenka has problems, they crawled like cockroaches from all sides. The fact that he himself piled them up is beyond doubt. The pure "autocracy" that he has demonstrated throughout recent years was clearly visible in his leadership style. I remember how he easily and easily "sent" the leader of any level, from the head of the district to the minister, to reeducate in a collective farm - the style inherent in the times of Mao's rule, during the "cultural revolution". But, Mao had millions of Red Guards, and he had "empty" in his store. Frightened officials reported to him only what he wanted to hear. Having believed in his "independence" and realizing his importance for Russia, year after year he became impudent in relation to her, and in fact, he spat into the well from which he drank all the time. Played!
    Two calls, in two days to Moscow, only indicate that he demonstrates vigorous activity and creates the appearance of strong ties with the "Kremlin", both outside and for those who still believe in him in Belarus. Only all the time, he somehow forgets to apologize for the poured crap, to speak out about the changes in relations with Russia and the West. After all, the "Kremlin" needs to understand what he meant in his program, with which he went to the elections.
    President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko published his election program in the newspaper Zvezda 5 days before the elections. According to him, for a quarter of a century, together with Belarusians, he built a new European state, and is going to do the same during his sixth term. He made his main slogan "State for the people" and stressed that it was being built on the ruins of the "Soviet empire."
    We are waiting, maybe even a drop of conscience remains!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 18 August 2020 06: 39
    +1
    I really hope that the Belarusians will be smarter than the Ukrainians, and even if Luka is forced to leave, then Westerners will not be allowed into their country.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 18 August 2020 06: 45
    +2
    The word opposition, some vague, who is it? Who pulls the strings ... Announce ..
  • Grandfather Talash
    Grandfather Talash 18 August 2020 06: 52
    +3
    You are talking such nonsense .. idiolukhs and so at every enterprise there are enough .. "deputy director for ideological work" .. Luka is exhausted .. old mantras no longer help .. it will also be bad .. in the economy, failure .. in foreign policy "weathering" also did not go to the benefit .. the national debt by the end of the year to pay off a rather large amount of accrues .. In short, solve your problems, come ..))
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 August 2020 07: 01
    -2

    Do we need such a truth? Or is it better to talk about a bloody riot police? So it was not Gorbachev and Yeltsin who destroyed the country, but such protestors.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 18 August 2020 08: 30
      +2
      This truth is not needed, it is better to talk about the bloody riot police ... A simple example. I remember that in the spring, in 1990, we went with a friend to Alisa's concert at the SKK. The concert was a success. We managed to leave the complex in the first rows. We are moving to the metro station. " And along the road, the dead with scythes stand "(c), in the sense of the guys from the riot police, ensuring order. And from behind we hear:" One, two, three -ment! Four, five, cops-again! " and so on. We got to the metro, sat down safely. The next day, I read in the newspapers how "bloody" riot policemen dealt with the children. Then, from a conversation with the guys I found out .. Like, we forgave the goats .. But when from crowds began to fly all sorts of crap .. I had to take action .. Then, by the way, when admitting to concerts, they did not inspect for the discovery of something ... Yes, if it were not for the hurry, then I was a police officer, and the young lady could get caught from their own ..
  • svp67
    svp67 18 August 2020 07: 04
    +2
    Special thanks to the author. Novozybkov, Gomel ... all the cities of my childhood ... hi
    It's hard to say what and how will happen. One thing I can say is that we will not learn all the ins and outs of this "dark story" soon.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 18 August 2020 08: 16
      0
      To the cities of my childhood I would add Unecha and Zlynka.
      1. svp67
        svp67 18 August 2020 10: 41
        +1
        Quote: AlexGa
        To the cities of my childhood I would add Unecha and Zlynka.

        I don't remember Unechu, but Zlynka, who in the USSR did not know Zlynka ...? As I got the matches, I remembered ... laughing

        Kalinkovichi, Dobrush, Kozhanovka, Lenino, although everyone called her in the old way: "Popovka" ...
        Everything that has happened and is happening now is directly "wounds in the heart"
        1. podymych
          19 August 2020 16: 44
          +1
          Manyuki is a big village - you can call it a city. Holy places, and nothing to say about Iput or mushrooms. And everyone always lived there together. And there were no disagreements not only on national, religious grounds. Who remembers - in Novozybkov, almost all confessions converged as at a crossroads
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 18 August 2020 07: 20
    +9
    Of course, we can discuss the events in Belarus to the point of stupor, as well as the events in 13-14 years in Ukraine. What's the point? For some reason, our Kremlin celestials are still keeping quiet and, oddly enough, maintain economic relations even with those who consider us an enemy, with the same lyakhams, banderlog, tribalts and others. Is it that greed is stronger than common sense and dignity? Probably during the Second World War, they would trade with Germany? Take the same Luka, but after the President's statement the Labusov would have kicked out their ambassador and recalled his own, no silence. He barked, barked at Russia, a roasted cock pecked his ass, immediately runs to the GDP, and ours promises to help. I look at all these political somersaults and think, but they would not go to three funny letters.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 18 August 2020 07: 33
    +2
    Lukashenko demonstrates confidence that he will indeed receive from Moscow "comprehensive assistance to ensure the security of the Republic of Belarus." At the first request! However

    HOWEVER, like BUT have very different meanings. If the Russian authorities finally take care of our own interests, then dad certainly does not fit into them!
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 18 August 2020 08: 23
    0
    Quote: The same Lech
    Yesterday I looked through it in detail ...
    .. Everything is exactly the same as the Ukrainian Maidan ... sometimes to the point of indecency ...

    So already the Belarusian tomos loomed. It seems that the artists sensed that they might not have time to shout out their lines before the final and rushed.
  • tatra
    tatra 18 August 2020 08: 26
    +2
    Once again, the enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR have proved that they are AGAINST democracy. They proved that they do not care about the choice of those who voted for Lukashenka, they have their own protege, and they want to impose it on Belarus and its people in a totalitarian way, in spite of democracy.
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 18 August 2020 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: tatra
      Once again, the enemies of the communists in the West, Europe, on the territory of the USSR proved that they are AGAINST democracy

      Do you believe that democracy exists? We live under mutated feudalism ...
      1. tatra
        tatra 18 August 2020 09: 18
        +3
        Democracy of the enemies of communists in the world is a "scam for suckers". They never allow a real opposition to win the elections, which wants to change the System established by the enemies of the communists, they stage coups d'état against those who came to power through elections, arrange coups immediately after the announcement the results of the elections, which, you see, they did not like.
  • vvvjak
    vvvjak 18 August 2020 08: 30
    0
    Looking from Gomel

    Looking from Gomel, as a permanent resident of the city, I will not subscribe to this article. The reference to distant relatives of Uncle Pasha, with whom I spoke on the phone, is of course authoritative, but not convincing for me. Distant relatives did not tell, for example, how, under the pretext of caring for the health of the population of the city of Gomel, for almost a week after 17.00 it was impossible to buy alcohol.
    1. akunin
      akunin 18 August 2020 09: 42
      +1
      Quote: vvvjak
      for almost a week after 17.00, you can't buy alcohol.

      taxi drivers do not trade (as in Soviet times)? round-ups, as in the case of a hunchback, do not suit? you can go to lunch (know-how) and take more (if not restrictions in one hand). laughing
      1. vvvjak
        vvvjak 18 August 2020 10: 25
        +2
        Quote: akunin
        taxi drivers do not trade (as in Soviet times)? round-ups, as in the case of a hunchback, do not suit? you can go to lunch (know-how) and take more (if not restrictions in one hand).

        Yes, this is not the point, although I hardly understand why after work you cannot drink a bottle of cold beer (which day we have already under 30). I'm just tired of this lie. Well, write in connection with the difficult situation in the country, so no need to hide behind concern "about the health of citizens." We are already here making fun of the type of weak steel Belarusians - OMON beats, and now the state will help us gain health. It seems that the authorities themselves are doing everything possible (and not possible) so that people would take to the streets and not leave there as long as possible. One internet outage is worth it, immediately felt like North Koreans
        1. akunin
          akunin 18 August 2020 10: 45
          0
          Quote: vvvjak
          so no, you have to hide behind concern "about the health of citizens"

          now wait for a tough covid quarantine.
          1. vvvjak
            vvvjak 18 August 2020 10: 59
            +3
            Quote: akunin
            now wait for a tough covid quarantine.

            Well, to such an extent, AHL will not "change clothes", this is its main feature - I was right about the virus and now all countries agree with me, but you did not believe me. Although all people perfectly saw how many cases were not included in the statistics. Yes, personally, my son in the sanatorium caught something very strange, even the kidneys began to fail, and then everything went abruptly. Naturally, no one conducted any tests. But he may well introduce an emergency and a curfew.
            1. akunin
              akunin 18 August 2020 11: 42
              0
              good luck, I wish to survive hi
              1. vvvjak
                vvvjak 18 August 2020 12: 01
                +1
                Thank you, we will try.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 19 August 2020 12: 05
          0
          Does beer quench your thirst or help in hot weather? I myself sometimes like to drink beer, but it is my thirst that I quench with soda, kvass, mineral water or just cold water.
    2. podymych
      19 August 2020 16: 46
      +1
      Thank you, now it's clear why Vitkin's relatives actually visited Novozybkov
  • akunin
    akunin 18 August 2020 09: 36
    -1
    to be loved and reckoned with, you need to be a hegemon. We are the largest economy in the post-Soviet space, but next to two hegemons - the European Union (with a high standard of living and China (with the first or second economy). We are not a center of power, but if we came out in fifth place (as the GDP said), the neighboring countries would really want to be friends with us, the question
    How to return Belarusians
    it would not even have arisen. only in russia they love the holy fools (the orphan and the poor are welcomed), the rest of the world loves the rich and successful (or those who seem to be them). example of syria, what we got: two bases in the mediterranean sea, which we can not supply if Turkey closes the Bosphorus, and NATO countries airspace
    (even to me the lieutenant of the medical service in the reserve understands, but the General Staff?), the huge costs of the war in Syria (money for the modernization of the armed forces), cargo 200 \ 300 ... that's all the "buns". the northern oil fields did not receive ( for the oligarchs) who control the Kurds (oil will go to the Amers) and relations with the Turks
    (govnosebe) + the process of rebuilding Syria at our expense ... and a further message to the penis (as always, it will be necessary to prove to the Syrians that they need us).
  • Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 18 August 2020 10: 43
    0
    Quote: Stas157
    Who was better for ordinary people? Well, not Putin!

    No matter how bad Putin and his team were, he, on average, turned out to be better than Lukashenka in the long term. Giving "freebies" like in the USSR without having money for that is not good for the people, this is stupidity and retribution in the future. He bought loyalty with handouts like in the USSR, but only he could not afford them, which in general was shown by the recent denomination and the crisis + chronic budget deficit and the need for subsidies from the Russian Federation. Is this for your benefit? Sitting on the suction from a neighbor and making a beautiful showcase? Inside, the foundation rotted away.
    As bad as Russia 2020 is, it is "stable". The country will not come up either in a year or in 5. Does it suck? In some places, yes, but there is no obvious protest, only they may be outraged by the overdue pensioner who would have already retired.
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 18 August 2020 12: 29
    -1
    That is why there are good chances to keep afloat not only the CSTO, but also the EAEU, which, in fact, is still not far from the expanded version of the Customs Union.
    The EAEU, the CIS, the Customs Union are the convulsions of the deceased USSR, whatever our "smart minds" undertake, the trade turnover with the former republics has dropped by 91% since 85 and will continue to decline!
  • Kushka
    Kushka 18 August 2020 12: 40
    +3
    Until a few months ago, the forum was buzzing with
    about zeroing - there was only one refrain - if not Putin,
    then who? Now we are buzzing for three weeks on the events in Belarus,
    and again the refrain is the same - if not Lukashenka, then who?
    At the same time, in the case of "not he", the
    and I agree - plausible.
    But someone will think how to live without Putin and Lukashenko.?
    Sorry, they are not eternal, and they are already old.
    Those. the decision today until the whitening of the fingers hold on
    for a bundle of Putin-Lukashenko, this is the same as instead of a belt
    wind an elastic band from panties to the generator - you can reach the garage,
    and then you still have to do it right.
    Or will there be no further life?
    PS I have four children and four grandchildren.
  • Vladimirsky
    Vladimirsky 18 August 2020 20: 40
    0
    Luka is not a far-sighted and not a wise politician .... It was necessary to postpone the elections under the pretext of coronavirus to January. - the protesters would not freeze eggs in winter ...
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 18 August 2020 21: 13
    0
    If he turns completely sad in Belarus. Then, just like after the break with Ukraine, a whole pile of problems and problems will fall down. Both strategic objects - the radar and the communications center with all the stuffing remain for the Belarusians and - in transit - fall into the hands of NATO.
    And 9-10 billion hryvnias - the debt of the Republic of Belarus, taken in the Russian Federation, will simply refuse to return crying Here Ukraine took 3 lard in 2013 from the Russian Federation. And he does not want to give! And the London court should be back in June 2020 to finally deliver a verdict. And where and how is he?
  • anton.anton-nicl
    anton.anton-nicl 19 August 2020 15: 09
    +2
    Quote: Stas157
    if instead of Putin there was Lukashenko, now the people of Russia would live much better. True, there would be fewer oligarchs and Putin's cronies at the trough.

    If instead of Putin there was Lukashenko, he was "taken out" from the Kremlin in a week, and his security forces were bought by the oligarchs. These are completely different financial flows, the volumes are not comparable. Lukashenka is the collective farm chairman, and he is "cattle" and naive, for which he receives.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 20 August 2020 11: 16
    0
    With this approach to the current situation in Belarus, one can ask a counter question: Will Moscow itself be able to do without the rest of Russia?
    I think the answer is obvious to everyone
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 21 August 2020 09: 35
    0
    Dress rehearsal of the coup d'etat in Russia 2024. I hope the patriots in power here have understood this. While liberals rule in the economy and education in the Russian Federation, it becomes scary for the future.
  • Edvid
    Edvid 25 August 2020 02: 45
    0
    Few people remember the famous annual "spring performances" of workers in Japan in the sixties and seventies. Then in Japan there were many-sided demonstrations of workers and employees in defense of their rights. The pictures are unforgettable: crowds of thousands of protesters with truncheons and shields, and towards the immense crowds of police, also with truncheons and shields, plus rubber bullets, and the makhalovka went ... It's surprising that there were practically no victims ... So what? Years passed. Gradually, the Japanese governments improved living conditions in the country and the demonstrations faded away ...