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Natural result of flirting with the West: the French press called Belarus a dictatorship at the gates of Europe

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The West, with which the Belarusian president has been trying to flirt lately, expressed its unambiguous attitude towards Alexander Lukashenko. The European media make it clear that they expected only one thing from Lukashenka - the resignation of his presidential powers after the end of his fifth term. But Lukashenka went to the polls, the CEC declared him the winner with more than 80 percent of the vote.


Now the media in Europe and the US write that they do not intend to recognize Lukashenko as president in the West.

Thus, in the large French edition of La Tribune, Lukashenko is again named a dictator. This is noteworthy due to the fact that for several years the West tried to avoid such interpretations of Alexander Lukashenko and even lifted a number of sanctions.

The very title of the material published on the pages of La Tribune speaks for itself: “Belarus, an ordinary dictatorship at the gates of Europe”. French reporters ask themselves a rhetorical question: "Will there be a Belarusian spring?" - a revolutionary option for Belarus like the “Arab Spring”. The article points out that European leaders demand from Lukashenka "to stop repressions against the protesters."

It is difficult to say what degree of hypocrisy this is. After all, the demands to “stop repressions against the protesters” are written by the French media, a country where the police used all available forces and means to deal with the so-called “yellow vests”, dispersed them with tear gas and water cannons, where dozens of criminal cases were initiated against the most active protesters. Apparently, the French police can beat people in the streets and the French courts can try activists - this is democracy ... But in Belarus, you cannot do the same, since it is a "dictatorship" ...
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  1. Dikson
    Dikson 17 August 2020 09: 15 New
    -18
    One or two publications are not all "Mass Media of Europe and the USA" ..
    1. stalki
      stalki 17 August 2020 09: 33 New
      27
      One or two publications are not all "Mass Media of Europe and the USA" ..
      Of course, not all, but they will pull up, do not worry. laughing laughing laughing
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 17 August 2020 10: 02 New
        18
        And I don’t worry .. - the rules of the game haven’t changed for a hundred years .. I still remember how the Vremya program showed supposedly massive demonstrations in the United States in support of all kinds of doctors Haiders, Peltier, Angel Davis and other comrades .. And it seemed looking from the mighty USSR that America will collapse right now .. yeah .. Lukashenka drove himself into a corner .. And to everyone here who hopes that (God forbid, of course) Belarusians with flowers will host our military, who came to "save" them. I can express my sympathy .. This whole situation is just another failure of Russian foreign policy. European and American economic sanctions against the Republic of Belarus cannot be avoided. There will be no military intervention anyway. Well, Father did not find his own Medvedev ..)) - so you look, he played on a bad, good president .. Sad. The "Russian world" turns into shagreen leather.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 17 August 2020 10: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Dikson
          And I don’t worry .. - the rules of the game haven’t changed for a hundred years .. I still remember how the Vremya program showed supposedly massive demonstrations in the United States in support of all kinds of doctors Haiders, Peltier, Angel Davis and other comrades .. And it seemed looking from the mighty USSR that America will collapse right now .. yeah .. Lukashenka drove himself into a corner .. And to everyone here who hopes that (God forbid, of course) Belarusians with flowers will host our military, who came to "save" them. I can express my sympathy .. This whole situation is just another failure of Russian foreign policy. European and American economic sanctions against the Republic of Belarus cannot be avoided. There will be no military intervention anyway. Well, Father did not find his own Medvedev ..)) - so you look, he played on a bad, good president .. Sad. The "Russian world" turns into shagreen leather.

          Unfortunately I agree with you.
          1. Temples
            Temples 17 August 2020 10: 27 New
            +7
            Quote: Dikson
            Belarusians with flowers will host our soldiers who have come to "save" them. I can express my sympathy.

            And where was someone met with flowers?

            Only strength is a guarantee of power and stability.

            Japan grabbed a couple of atomic bombs.
            And only the military presence of the Americans guarantees the Japanese the world in which they live.
            All protests in the Anglo-Saxon world are brutally suppressed. And the more victims during the suppression of dem, the longer this "inoculation" lasts

            Open your eyes.

            "Meeting with flowers" is propaganda.

            It is necessary to suppress the rebels.

            What does not suit the "oppositionists" in Belarus?
            What will they do?

            Except - down with Lukashenka and freedom for "Yuri Detochkin" there is nothing.

            So, do not be deceived.

            On the other hand, the protests are not civilians, but a hostile Anglo-Saxon civilization that will destroy the people living in Belarus without regret.

            Power is based on strength.
            This is the truth of life.

            They will not be greeted with flowers, but at home most will cross themselves and say Thank God that they came and protected.

            Crimea is confirmation of this.
            And Donbass confirms that stopping the use of force is a mistake.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 17 August 2020 14: 50 New
              +3
              Khramov, 10.27
              Totally agree with you. Traditional arrogant two-faced Western rudeness - from time immemorial. In the Roman Empire it was formalized in the principle: "What is permitted to Jupiter is not permitted to a bull." We are always bulls for them. Foolishly naive those who admire and believe in them.
            2. cmax
              cmax 17 August 2020 17: 13 New
              0
              Temples. You yourself would be put on cancer in the gym with a riot police baton at night with your hands tied behind you. It would immediately become clear that your ideas are not the most progressive. Dbl.
              1. Kazbek
                Kazbek 17 August 2020 18: 19 New
                +1
                You jump on the cops - be ready to grab the ridge with a cudgel! He threw a Molotov at the cop - be ready to grab a bullet in the blunt head! If you don't like it, go to 404!
          2. Looking for
            Looking for 17 August 2020 14: 04 New
            +2
            all this is because the tactics of Russian diplomacy have not changed for decades. - "whatever happens" and "what will our western partners say"
        2. stalki
          stalki 17 August 2020 10: 28 New
          +3
          This is not another failure, but another gangster conspiracy of the West against Russia. Don't turn the values ​​you don't have upside down. He is a bandit and a bandit in Africa. All this is the husk of freedom, crap, dictatorship, repression. All these candy wrappers are for silly fools.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 17 August 2020 10: 51 New
            0
            Lukashenko has been named a dictator again by the major French publication La Tribune.

            -NOE IN ALGERIA AND MOROCCO (and the Sahel zone) TO CONDUCT FAIR ELECTIONS - WILL HEAT THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTIONS IN MADRID AND PARIS AND WITHOUT SOROS ..
            1. arhPavel
              arhPavel 17 August 2020 15: 54 New
              -1
              They have had massive protests in the hundreds of thousands in their country for a year now and no one cares, but already in Algeria and Morocco they already have it, as they say, a long time ago.
              That the protests and riots in the United States, that the protests in France, that in Belarus, that in Russia go as long as they earn money on them.
              The same privatization of Belarusian assets is a very fat kusman, many want it. Ukraine is being sawed for the seventh year over the campaign ends.
              It has long been clear that the presidents and governments in the Western world are the vice-chairmen on whom NOTHING depends, the power is not there.
          2. Dikson
            Dikson 17 August 2020 10: 57 New
            +4
            You do not count my values ​​..)) A gangster conspiracy .. of course a conspiracy .. And what prevented our leadership from "conspiring" with the Belarusian? Condescending "elder brotherhood"? .. And so - the economic blackmail between the two fraternal countries resulted in a political fiasco .. that's all the husk ..
          3. Dmitry10SPb
            Dmitry10SPb 17 August 2020 18: 11 New
            -1
            True? And in my opinion, the words "next" "gangster" "conspiracy" - this is written for foolish people. It is unlikely that this will work on this site. There is a former president who lost the election and falsified it. Now he is an impostor. Russia should not be harnessed to him. Simply because the people of Belarus in the majority are sharply against him. It is worth betting on new elections. And there to nominate the best candidate. And this political corpse does not lend itself to galvanization. The West acted smarter in this regard.
        3. RUnnm
          RUnnm 17 August 2020 10: 32 New
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          And now I will try to express my thoughts in more detail. Although I understand that it will be extremely unpleasant for many to read them, as well as to me to voice them.
          1. Technologies of color revolutions have long been disassembled, analyzed and studied. But then the question arises - why can't we find antidotes for them?
          2. Personally, I think that the answer is on the surface. Because we are no different from the countries that use them. But we are simply at a lower level than they are. Let me explain:
          2.1. We take Ukraine, Belarus and our struggle for them with the West and ask ourselves the question, what can we offer these countries that will win the sympathy of the people, the country and what the West cannot offer them?
          - the economy? No, we are losing to the West in this indicator. Are we creating some kind of modern, joint projects with Belarus that would develop the economies of the two countries? No, on the contrary, we are moving away from the union state. We must understand that we are all simple capitalist states and all our economic interaction with these countries - struggle, mutual agreements, the interest of oligarchic groups. And we are not offering anything new that would make our economic proposals more attractive than the promises of the West. But here the West makes a huge mistake, which we need to use - it does not realize what it promised. There is no Marshall Plan for Ukraine, there will be no Marshall Plan for Belarus. But you can't count on it forever.
          - social structure? And in what way is it different from the West? Yes, absolutely the same principle - "climb over your heads up!". At the same time, we again lag behind in the stratification of society, and in prosperity, etc. Or, for example, Belarus, seeing how the children of our officials study abroad, how F throws money to "slaves" and comparing all this, with the same Merkel, should they consider that they will be better with us? And what, in fact, will they get from us in this matter from what they already do not have?
          - ideology? Does it exist with us ?! Sets of stamps, cliches of the 20th century, driven from TV screens by talking heads in 24/7 mode, is this the very ideology that Ukrainians should want to see in their country? Yes, they eat it with a full spoon without us. And we still, for 27 years, have not been able to say to ourselves - how we see our society, our goals, what we are doing step by step to achieve them today, tomorrow, in 40 years ... we offer a vacuum in this matter.
          - social partnership. Relations between the people and the authorities. Can anyone cite at least one significant difference on this issue between the Russian Federation, Ukraine and Belarus? Me not! But the West is vying with each other to praise, and often, not without reason, a dozen effective models. And we have nothing to answer.
          Simply put, to the question of a Ukrainian, Kazakh, Belarusian ... about why our country is better in the social sphere than Germany, Austria, Italy, we cannot say anything.
          2.2. For decades we ourselves have not formed any clear, realistic, mutually beneficial strategy of interaction with neighbors. We do not create common economic development projects, we do not create a common scientific, student, educational circuit, we do not act as drivers of recognition of the commonality of history and culture, but only mentors. We haven't used 27 years to work with this and the countries. And now we nod at color revolutions. And the reason is in ourselves - that we are not going ahead, ahead of Western interaction technologies, but lagging a few steps behind and do not even try to draw conclusions for ourselves from our mistakes.
          3. As a result, we will repeat our mistakes over and over again. And we will continue to build relationships with neighbors, keeping in mind that we are the descendants of a country like the USSR and forgetting that today's Russia is neither economically, nor socio-political, nor ideologically its successor, but follows the rails of Western systems, lagging behind them by several passes.
          1. Sergey39
            Sergey39 17 August 2020 10: 45 New
            -2
            Quote: RUnnm
            the reason is in ourselves - that we are not going ahead, ahead of Western interaction technologies, but lagging a few steps behind and do not even try to draw conclusions for ourselves from our mistakes.

            Everything is written intelligently, logically and incorrectly.
            1. RUnnm
              RUnnm 17 August 2020 10: 49 New
              0
              And I do not claim that I am right, I just wrote what I myself think. You may well have a different opinion.
              If you want to refute what I have said, I am ready to listen to you with attention and pleasure.
              1. Sergey39
                Sergey39 17 August 2020 11: 08 New
                +1
                It should not be forgotten that the Anglo-Saxons have been fighting against Russian influence for more than three hundred years, and only in recent years after the failure of the 80s and 90s Russia has designated a confrontation and began to emerge from the influence of the West. Everything is easier to explain - MONEY. The financial resources of the West are immeasurably greater than those of Russia. Nevertheless, the West is beginning to lose. Not everything can be bought for money. This can be seen in the example of Belarus. They fail to create another Outskirts, despite the efforts of the French and other media. IMHO
                1. Temples
                  Temples 17 August 2020 12: 01 New
                  +2
                  Quote: RUnnm
                  For decades we ourselves have not formed any clear, realistic, mutually beneficial strategy of interaction with neighbors. We do not create common economic development projects, we do not create a common scientific, student, educational circuit, we do not act as drivers of recognition of the commonality of history and culture, but only mentors.

                  Either you are lying, or you are not at all interested in what you are writing about.

                  The economy of Belarus is integrated into our economy. That is, it is a part.
                  Culture is even more connected than the economy.

                  There is no decisive step towards unification
                  But this is the price for independence.

                  Belarusians, especially those who are jumping on the squares, are ready to become part of Poland for the sake of their freedom.
                  This is insanity, but the insanity of a free person.

                  Quote: Sergey39

                  And we will continue to build relationships with neighbors


                  If you Sergey39 build relationships with your neighbors, the neighbors will run out.

                  Open your eyes
                  There (in the west, the Anglo-Saxons) have no neighborly relations. Only submission.


                  It is not necessary to build neighborly relations, but a SINGLE COUNTRY.

                  Either to us or to them. No neighbors.

                  Or to you, to the land of illusions.
                  This country is preparing the maidan jumpers. For freedom !, for neighborly relations, for gender equality! for free love! for all the good ... we are the JamsBond, the Russians are to blame, especially in the Kremlin ...
                  1. Sergey39
                    Sergey39 17 August 2020 12: 21 New
                    +2
                    Temples, my comment does not contain this phrase. I don’t have to attribute other people's words and thoughts. In my opinion, it is you who live in the land of illusions and respond to non-existent comments.
          2. Dikson
            Dikson 17 August 2020 11: 00 New
            0
            point 3 - controversial .. but in general there is logic.
          3. Lumpen
            Lumpen 17 August 2020 11: 07 New
            +1
            Bravo, critical, justified, to the very essence !!! (no sarcasm)
          4. Alex777
            Alex777 17 August 2020 18: 41 New
            +2
            We have collected so many pluses that you will have to answer ...
            1. Technologies of color revolutions have long been disassembled, analyzed and studied. But then the question arises - why can't we find antidotes for them?

            Not this way. And in Uzbekistan, and in Kazakhstan, and in Kyrgyzstan, and, for that matter, in Syria and Russia, color revolutions did not take place. yes
            2. Personally, I think that the answer is on the surface. Because we are no different from the countries that use them. But we're just at a lower level than they are

            Not this way. I already wrote, I will repeat briefly:
            - Russian civilization develops the territories it comes to,
            - Anglo-Saxons come to the territory to plunder.
            As a simple, abstract example - Afghan. The USSR built schools, hospitals, enterprises. What has the United States built over the past 18 years in Afghanistan? Poppy plantations?
            You can look at Syria ...
            There is no Marshall Plan for Ukraine, there will be no Marshall Plan for Belarus. But you can't count on it forever.

            No and never will. Why - I have already written above. yes
            Simply put, to the question of a Ukrainian, Kazakh, Belarusian ... about why our country is better in the social sphere than Germany, Austria, Italy, we cannot say anything.

            This is a worldview question. Either you see the difference or not.
            I see. It suits me. wink
            Did the Kazakhs tell you how the States froze 1/3 of the NWF a couple of years ago for nothing, for nothing? Take an interest.
            In Ukraine, it is not in vain that the Anglo-Saxons staked on the Banderaites. It is useless for them to say something good about the Russians.
            But even the Poles said bluntly: you will not see Europe with Banderas and Shukhevychs.
            You can dig deeper here, but I don't see the point. The forum is not the right place.
            3. As a result, we will repeat our mistakes over and over again. And we will continue to build relationships with neighbors, keeping in mind that we are the descendants of a country like the USSR and forgetting that today's Russia is neither economically, nor socio-political, nor ideologically its successor, but follows the rails of Western systems, lagging behind them by several passes.

            The USSR is a short period in the thousand-year history of Russia. Yes, it passed and it cannot be returned. And the world has changed.
            What is important, in my opinion, you are missing is the fact that changes in the world go on, their speed will only increase and the direction of these changes can be very surprising. yes
            Could it have occurred to you that in the West the rule of the normal majority will be replaced by the dictatorship of a dubious minority?
            What kind of slogans "White's life does not matter" are not that they are not imprisoned in a European country, but, on the contrary, are promoted?
            That in a "democratic" country the political confrontation of two parties will be carried out by almost terrorist methods: through mass riots, robberies, arson and other "delights"?
            The share of the United States in the world economy has decreased by 70 times over the past 2 years. The expansion of industries to other countries led to tax cuts at all levels. That is why the budget deficit is growing so rapidly. Government spending is growing, while revenues are falling.
            The population is under credit in such a way that the Fed's attempts to raise the discount rate to improve the economy leads to massive bankruptcies of families, whose salaries have been at the same level for years, with the prospect of a collapse of the entire banking system. Etc. etc.
            You probably don't know this, but the roads in Moscow and St. Petersburg are many times better than in New York and the surrounding area. The municipalities have no money to repair them.
            I know this not from books and the Internet, but on the basis of my experience and the experience of dozens of people who still live there. Many (like me) have already returned to Russia, many are going to do so in the foreseeable future.
            And this is just the beginning. He who has eyes, let him see. hi
          5. YOUR
            YOUR 18 August 2020 04: 27 New
            -1
            A lot is written well .... Maybe you can explain what is Lukashenka's flirtation with the West.
            The article did not say a word, and the author is unclear.
        4. Killemall
          Killemall 17 August 2020 11: 20 New
          -1
          Yes, yes ... failure ... but what, I'm embarrassed to ask? The Belarusians have an average standard of living higher than in Russia, and even more so in Ukraine ... I wonder why? More precisely who?
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 17 August 2020 15: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: KilleMall
            The Belarusians have an average standard of living higher than in Russia, and even more so in Ukraine ...

            strange .. so why are they going to Russia and not for the turnover?
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      2. Rokambol
        Rokambol 17 August 2020 13: 10 New
        +7
        Quote: stalki
        they will pull up

        It is natural to pull ourselves up in order to shake the situation in the country and throw another stone towards Russia.
    2. Temples
      Temples 17 August 2020 09: 33 New
      18
      You cannot give Belarus to be torn apart.

      I can say that many media outlets and "journalists" have shown their true colors.
      And the writing articles on this site are not far behind.

      All right, they would be ideological, otherwise it's just loot.

      We have a dime a dozen ghouls.
      We have it both in Belarus and in Russia.
      1. Temples
        Temples 17 August 2020 09: 40 New
        +9
        Why was this photo attached to this note?
        Dictator. Hitler Association. flashes.
        Why is this done on the Russian site?
      2. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 17 August 2020 10: 17 New
        -3
        You cannot give Belarus to be torn apart.
        If we do not replace Luka and speed up the unification, Belarus will end.
        1. Temples
          Temples 17 August 2020 10: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: Trapp1st
          If we don't change the bow

          Why would you change it?
          And on behalf of whom are you speaking?

          Last winter you also wanted to change the "Bow"?

          I think that just a couple of months ago you called "Luka" "Old Man" and did not think of any change.

          It is probably convenient to live in a herd. What the shepherd said is what the "free" people do. wink
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 17 August 2020 11: 01 New
            0
            Why would you change it?
            Whatever the others change, Ukrainian lessons must be learned.
            I think that a couple of months ago you called "Luka" "Old Man"
            In a couple of months he managed to get things done.
        2. ugol2
          ugol2 17 August 2020 12: 23 New
          +7
          It is not "Bow" that needs to be changed, something needs to be changed in oneself, to live better ourselves.
          Correctly, the comrade wrote above that "we" are the same as "they", only we are ten steps behind them, and we have ten times less opportunities. What does the West offer them? Chewing gum, jeans and Coca-Cola .. and their oligarchs (nothing changes over time). What can we offer? Your own oligarchs? What else do we have?
          Russia can only offer independence from the West. And that's all.
          Do they need it? We are mentally Europeans. And you can't explain to a teenager why Washington is bad and Moscow is good, because his eyes and ears see and tell him that everything is just the opposite.
          The Russian world is a breakaway part of Western civilization, globally no different from its ancestors.
          Naturally, in this situation, the eternally rebellious youth will be drawn to a better-packed Western life. And in view of the historically established confrontation between Russia and the West, this West is simply happy to chop off part of the Russian world for itself.
          And the conclusion is simple - you yourself need to live better, and young people will reach out to you. And in no case should you carry "freedom" with bayonets to fraternal countries.
      3. Rokambol
        Rokambol 17 August 2020 13: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: Temples
        And the writing articles on this site are not far behind.

        And not only. Many commentators changed their shoes on the go in relation to Lukashenka. Not long ago they were ready to break anyone who was against Lukashenka for Lukashenka, but now, as if on command, they all pounced on him, he became bad. These are the traitors.
    3. RUnnm
      RUnnm 17 August 2020 09: 34 New
      +8
      In fairness, I must say that almost all Western publications write about the same thing.
      1. user1212
        user1212 17 August 2020 09: 50 New
        +5
        Quote: RUnnm
        In fairness, I must say that almost all Western publications write about the same thing.

        I wonder if the suppression of the "yellow vests" protests is not a manifestation of the dictatorship in France? And the attack by the special services on "peaceful Muslim communities" after the terrorist attacks in France is not a suppression of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, isn't it?
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 17 August 2020 10: 00 New
          +3
          I haven't finished that comment yet. I'll do it a little later. While on the previous topics departed.
      2. Rokambol
        Rokambol 17 August 2020 13: 14 New
        +7
        Quote: RUnnm
        write about the same, almost all Western publications.

        Orders and orders come from one place.
    4. halpat
      halpat 17 August 2020 09: 45 New
      +4
      One thing can be said: the strategic political initiative continues to remain in the hands of the West (USA). And the end of the edge to this "trend" is not yet visible.
  2. Fungus
    Fungus 17 August 2020 09: 16 New
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    Western hypocrites at their best. How many yellow vests have died during the protests. Twenty-something people. Impose sanctions against France and declare Macron a dictator and a murderer of your people. And do not meddle on our sacred White Russia
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 17 August 2020 09: 23 New
      17
      Quote: Fungus
      How many yellow vests have died during the protests. Twenty-something people. Impose sanctions against France and declare Macron a dictator and a murderer of your people

      What are you talking about? How can that be? So after all, you can begin to count the dead blacks in the United States, and this is blasphemy, practically sacrilege in relation to the true "democracies" of the Western model ...
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 17 August 2020 09: 41 New
      +7
      You do not understand, this is different (CE).
      1. Rokambol
        Rokambol 17 August 2020 13: 20 New
        +7
        Quote: Pereira
        You do not understand, this is different (CE).

        Is it democracy for them? wassat
        Our oppositionists believe that what is happening in the West is good and right, even if the demonstrators are dispersed by the police. Everything we have is bad.
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      1. Cube123
        Cube123 17 August 2020 10: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        In Belarus, two people were officially killed in two days. Alexander Vikhor was beaten to death by cops in Gomel, Alexander Taraikovsky was shot with a rubber bullet while he was standing with his hands up. And 86 Belarusians disappeared without a trace, they are not on the lists of detainees, nor among those released. Quite possibly they are not alive. In two days.

        So that's okay. If you go out to fight the authorities, be prepared that they will not pat you on the head.

        "That power is worthless, which does not know how to defend itself"
        IN AND. Lenin
        1. Zeev zeev
          Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 10: 22 New
          -5
          Power protects whom? People? So no, the power protects ITSELF FROM THE PEOPLE.
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 17 August 2020 10: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: ZeevZeev
            Power protects whom? People? So no, the power protects ITSELF FROM THE PEOPLE.

            Here is no need for verbiage. Power protects the COUNTRY !. She has no other. And according to your logic, you can't fight against criminals - it's part of the people smile
            1. Zeev zeev
              Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 11: 14 New
              -3
              There shouldn't be any country in power at all. The country is a PEOPLE, and the government is obliged to serve it. And if he doesn't want to serve, then nafig such power.
              1. Cube123
                Cube123 17 August 2020 13: 30 New
                +3
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                There shouldn't be any country in power at all. The country is a PEOPLE, and the government is obliged to serve it. And if he doesn't want to serve, then nafig such power.

                Again "a spherical horse in a vacuum" wink
                Life is different. One people can be divided into several countries and a lot of nationalities can live in one country. The government is elected by the majority of the POPULATION of the country and is obliged to protect the interests of the MOST OF THE POPULATION OF THE COUNTRY. Those. interests of their voters. And in the population of any country there is a mass of groups whose interests are opposite. And the task of the normal government is to organize the life of the population so that society can develop normally and the damage associated with this development is minimal. And conversations on the topic "who should serve whom" is for a kindergarten ABC book.
          2. akarfoxhound
            akarfoxhound 17 August 2020 10: 44 New
            0
            Amer write this "for the people" when the police shoot at children with toy pistols and other anti-social elements., They will understand you there laughing
          3. Dikson
            Dikson 17 August 2020 11: 03 New
            +1
            Are Arabs with stones in their hands treated more favorably in Israel?
            1. Zeev zeev
              Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 11: 19 New
              -4
              Yes, much nicer. For a rubber bullet from a short distance in the face, they will put a police officer and his commander. For beating a lying person from work, the head of the district will also fly out. Both the Chief of Police and the Minister of Homeland Security will go for torture.
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 17 August 2020 15: 46 New
                0
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                Yes, much nicer. For a rubber bullet from a short distance in the face, they will put a police officer and his commander. For beating a lying person, the head of the district will also fly out of work.

                exactly? aren't you lying? How many police officers have been fired in France? how many corpses are there in 3 years of riots?
                in the United States, too, something did not transfer police officers, and there were more than a dozen corpses in the first week alone.
          4. igor67
            igor67 17 August 2020 11: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: ZeevZeev
            Power protects whom? People? So no, the power protects ITSELF FROM THE PEOPLE.
            and our government is very concerned about the citizens? Natanyahu no longer knows with whom to get into kaolitsiya, just to stay in power
            1. Zeev zeev
              Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 12: 31 New
              -2
              Turn on the TV and find one positive word about Bibi from the last ten years. Nevertheless, the Likud REALLY has a majority of the votes.
          5. Rokambol
            Rokambol 17 August 2020 13: 21 New
            +4
            The power in Belarus protects the people of the country from collapse and unrest.
        2. cmax
          cmax 17 August 2020 17: 26 New
          +1
          Cube 123. Actually, this is the 21st century. Have you forgotten? You still offer the gallows for those who disagree with the AHL. Imagine a mirror option. For the post written above, you would be arrested, at the same time beat off your kidneys, broke a couple of ribs. You are ready to suffer. In Grodno, people walked from the night shift to the Khimvolokno plant, riot police tied 12 people for mass use. Tell them about your views. I think a fight is provided for you.
      2. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 17 August 2020 10: 40 New
        +3
        Do you keep the same statistics according to your soul mate of the striped democracy? If you lead, then go ahead, post it here in the comments, we'll see which of them is more democratic and who is more dictatorial wink
        Or just throwing "odor" in one direction are engaged?
        1. Rokambol
          Rokambol 17 August 2020 13: 22 New
          +7
          Quote: akarfoxhound
          Do you keep the same statistics according to your soul mate of the striped democracy?

          They don't keep such statistics. They don't need that. The main thing for them is to destroy, to exterminate the Slavic people, to make the Slavs slaves.
    4. vasek5533
      vasek5533 17 August 2020 10: 25 New
      12
      It is necessary to separate the victims at the rally and the beating of the detainees. Those who beat people at a rally during clashes (who started, another story) have no questions, there is a fight of their own, there is no time for reasoning. Questions about bullying after arrest, when everything is calm, people are handcuffed and defenseless. That's where the point of no return was. On this Lukashenka got burned, on the non-professionalism of his subordinates. Without torture, there was a chance to calm everything down, now there is no more, too many ordinary people are outraged.
  3. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 17 August 2020 09: 19 New
    24
    Many Belarusians develop schizophrenia, like citizens of Ukraine at one time.
    We are against Luke, and for Russia !. We walk with flags reminiscent of Polish. We greet with applause from the Western ambassadors in Minsk that flowers are being laid, like a heavenly hundred.
    And we ask the West, represented by Tikhonovskaya's headquarters, to recognize her as President.
    In the next thread, the Belarusian wrote to me, if we do not understand them, then we will lose Ukraine and we will ask the question: why is everyone turning away from us?
    When I left Ukraine in 2014, my father turned away from me that he was from the RSFSR and had never studied at a Ukrainian school or university. He was for the Maidan, I am against it. He was for Ukraine, and I was for Russia, where I was only with my grandmother as a child.
    Now I live and work in Novosibirsk, where he became as a person.
    This is a war, gentlemen and comrades!
    I'm already warming up by 2021 and 2024. It's only the beginning.
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 17 August 2020 09: 27 New
      +7
      And what is the result. Have they achieved what they wanted these Maidan?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 17 August 2020 09: 35 New
        +9
        Quote: Servisinzhener
        And what is the result. Have they achieved what they wanted these Maidan?

        Question in Ukrainian darkness and emptiness yes On this question, they usually either keep silent, or mumble something incomprehensible, or throw slogans "puppiesYavmerlo", and traditionally - a counter question - "and you ?"...
      2. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 17 August 2020 09: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Servisinzhener
        And what is the result. Have they achieved what they wanted these Maidan?

        Russian grads prevent them from developing the Ukrainian economy. This is their answer.
        The fact that the association with the EU is killing them is not a word.
    2. svp67
      svp67 17 August 2020 09: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Many Belarusians develop schizophrenia, like citizens of Ukraine at one time.
      This "schizophrenia" planned and already tested in the Baltics and Ukraine and is now being promoted in Belarus
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 August 2020 09: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        This "schizophrenia" planned and already tested in the Baltics and Ukraine and is now being promoted in Belarus

        Well, there was no need to ride in the Baltics. There, even before the collapse of the USSR, Estonia silently and quietly, with the approval of Eltsyna, became independent on August 20, 1991, the first of all.
    3. Pavel57
      Pavel57 17 August 2020 10: 00 New
      +3
      All these are battles of one big war.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 August 2020 10: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      When I left Ukraine in 2014, my father turned away from me that he was from the RSFSR and had never studied at a Ukrainian school or university. He was for the Maidan, I am against it. He was for Ukraine, and I was for Russia, where I was only with my grandmother as a child.

      And you are not the only one like that, my relatives in Ukraine, also accepted Ukraine under Kravchuk, now we do not communicate. I don’t want it to be like that with my sisters and nephews from Belarus.
      1. Zeev zeev
        Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 10: 17 New
        -8
        And so that your nephews were detained on the street, when they just go out for a walk, beaten to a pulp, and then you want to be taken away from your parents? Then support Lukashenka.
        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 17 August 2020 10: 32 New
          +1
          Or just sitting peacefully on the street


          1. Zeev zeev
            Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 10: 58 New
            0
            Have they been beaten? Not. They were raped with a club in a monkey house? Not. They were removed from the road they blocked.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 17 August 2020 12: 21 New
              +2
              Quote: ZeevZeev
              Have they been beaten? Not. They were raped with a club in a monkey house? Not. They were removed from the road they blocked.


              Such a stage "dehumanizing"the authorities and the security forces, the outskirts took place during the implementation of the coup technology back in January 2014 (video).

              Nothing new.



              BUT THIS IS BREAKING VIDEO, SHUT-IN... But the main thing is to crow yes .
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 August 2020 10: 37 New
          -4
          Quote: ZeevZeev
          And so that your nephews are detained on the street, when they just go out for a walk, they beat him to a pulp

          There is no need to wander the streets when there are a lot of hooligans.
          1. Zeev zeev
            Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 11: 00 New
            -1
            This is not how "hooligans" are grabbed and beaten, just people. And it's the cops who decide who they don't like.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 53 New
              -1
              Quote: ZeevZeev
              This is not how "hooligans" are grabbed and beaten, just people. And it's the cops who decide who they don't like.

              And I thought cops are hooligans too.
    5. Alekseev
      Alekseev 17 August 2020 10: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Many Belarusians develop schizophrenia, like citizens of Ukraine at one time.

      That's right!
      BUT ... for many, this is far from all. In Ukraine, a minority rules, relying on the help of the West and, first of all, the United States and 1-2% of the "broad Banderlog". The protest of the rest is suppressed Maidan was allowed once, achieved the goal and woke up ... This is the plan for the Belarusians.
      Therefore, ardent schizophrenics need to be put into stalls, but policy changes are needed, a change of leader is also needed, only, of course, not here and now and not to a puppet like Tikhanovskaya. This is an illusion - if only not Lukashenka. Example Ukraine, well, they chose a clown-puppet instead of the creature Parashenka, that at least something has become better?
      By the way, Lukashenka asked the right question to his opponents: do you want changes? Tell me specifically which ones? Do you want reforms? What do you need? If useful, then we'll start tomorrow.
      But no, we want Luka to run away, like Yanyk in due time and things will get better. It will get better, but not for mere mortals, to collect strawberries and clean toilets in Poland, etc. Moldovans have already firmly contracted with ukrami.
      Therefore, ordinary residents of Belarus should not think that, they say, they will not be affected, but simply not to support the overthrow of the government in this way, there are not so many lumpen and other "shock workers" ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 August 2020 10: 49 New
        -1
        Quote: Alekseev
        By the way, Lukashenka asked the right question to his opponents: do you want changes? Tell me specifically which ones? Do you want reforms? What do you need? If useful, then we'll start tomorrow.
        But no, we want Luca to escape

        According to the understanding, after this the reforms will begin. The first will be closed MAZ, Bel AZ, MTZ and Bel NPP, which has not yet begun to work. Or maybe I was dreaming about it?
    6. snake
      snake 17 August 2020 10: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      When I left Ukraine in 2014

      Why didn't you, hero, stay in Ukraine to defend your ideals? Didn't have enough time to swing? Do you need several years for this?
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      I'm already warming up by 2021 and 2024.

      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      This is a war, gentlemen and comrades!

      Where will you run next time, Mr. Provocateur, if you don't have time to "stretch"?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: serpent
        Why didn't you, hero, stay in Ukraine to defend your ideals? Didn't have enough time to swing? Do you need several years for this?

        And he is not a Ukrainian, and why would a Russian need to defend the ideals of Ukraine?
        1. snake
          snake 17 August 2020 13: 40 New
          -2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And he is not a Ukrainian, and why would a Russian need to defend the ideals of Ukraine?

          What do the ideals of Ukraine have to do with it? He has his own - the Russian world. But he did not go to Donbass, but hit the road to Russia. While from Russia itself, volunteers went to Donbass to defend the Russian world.
          These are you, patriots of the Russian world - one escaped from Ukraine (but not to the DPR / LPR, but to Novosib), and the other is happy from Estonia ...
  4. Insurgent
    Insurgent 17 August 2020 09: 22 New
    +6
    Natural result of flirting with the West: the French press called Belarus a dictatorship at the gates of Europe

    The West is howling, and howling, as one of the forms of information pressure, will continue to grow. This is a given according to their plan.

    The case is for Russia and Belarus, which, as on June 22, 1941, again became a Fortress that cannot be surrendered - to stand.

    I am fighting a fortress. I'm waiting for reinforcements ...

    1. alien
      alien 17 August 2020 09: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      The West is howling, and howling, as one of the forms of information pressure, will continue to grow. This is a given according to their plan.

      First, informational pressure. Behind the scenes, Belarusians are already rubbing their hands ...
      The result of this "pressure" in Ukraine:
      The United States continues to build a naval command post in Ochakov (Mykolaiv Oblast).
      “The leadership of the naval base of American standards in Ochakov (formerly a post of the USSR Navy) has officially announced its readiness to receive the first American ships and other military equipment. Construction is overseen by the 73rd US Navy Center, which reports personally to the head of naval operations, Admiral John Richardson. <…> Potentially, the base should become the largest US point in the region. An object classified. "
      https://zvezdaweekly.ru/news/t/20207976-xCHyp.html
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 17 August 2020 09: 44 New
        +8
        Quote: Alien
        First, informational pressure. Behind the scenes, Belarusians are already rubbing their hands ...
        The result of this "pressure" in Ukraine:

        Conclusion - it is impossible,categorically to allow the development of events in Belarus according to the Ukrainian scenario, especially considering the fact that there are a number of key, vital facilities of the RF Ministry of Defense, and the air defense of the Republic of Belarus is included in a single system with the Russian one.
        1. alien
          alien 17 August 2020 10: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: Insurgent
          Conclusion - it is impossible, categorically to allow the development of events in Belarus according to the Ukrainian scenario

          With Babariko (Tymoshenko) seated and the selfless head of his headquarters Maria Kolesnikova, it is rather impossible to extinguish the conflict.

          We need to get away from this scenario:
          "there is a great danger to the situation in Belarus, which is becoming more and more distinct every day - radicalization under the leadership local nationalists... This is already evident in the fact that the slogan "Long Live Belarus!" It was under him that the nationalists for many years called for a break in relations with Russia, and after the recognition of the election results by Moscow, the Russian authorities will sooner or later be accused of supporting Lukashenka and throwing the idea of ​​a Russian threat into the crowd. Moreover, at one of the rallies, the protesters sang "Mighty Bozha", the text of which was written in 1943 by Natalya Arsenyeva, revered by nationalists, despite the fact that she collaborated with the Nazi invaders in Minsk. All this, as well as the constant escalation of the situation around the possibility of the introduction of Russian troops into Belarus, only pushes the Belarusian protests into the hands of Russophobes and nationalists. How all this can end is perfectly demonstrated by Ukraine. "
          https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/08/15/volneniya-v-belorussii-politicheskie-tehnologii-ili-vseobshchiy-protest

          This is exactly what happened in Ukraine:
          Evgeniya Bilchenko (Appeal of the former “poet of Maidan” to Europe):
          “As a person who went through the war as a volunteer and helped the fighters of the Ukrainian volunteer battalions. Already on the Maidan I saw what was happening interception of protest by liberal-nationalist forces, but was afraid to admit it to myself. After that, following the young Ukrainian romantics who succumbed to propaganda, I became a volunteer, visited the front and the hospitals. Among the fighters whom I helped, there were also members of the Right Sector organization banned in the Russian Federation. War is a mistake of a lifetime, “huge like the Himalayas,” as Mahatma Gandhi would say, “nevertheless, it allowed me to see the truth with my own eyes and talk about it, relying on my experience, and not on media clichés. During my volunteering, I visited the cities of Rubezhnoe, Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, an open front near Slavyansk and near Donetsk. What I recognized and saw there shocked me. I realized that Ukraine is waging a civil and hybrid war against its own population. Everything that we with students and soldiers fought for, everything that we sentimentally idealized, everything that we were afraid to admit to ourselves - now destroys ourselves. And if we (and I in particular) deserved such reprisals, then peaceful people, our fellow citizens, residents of Donetsk and Odessa, who were forced to flee to emigration to Europe or to Russia or lying in coffins with their young children."
          https://bilchenko.wordpress.com/2018/02/20/всё-что-вы-хотели-знать-об-украине-но-б/
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 17 August 2020 10: 22 New
          -3
          Quote: Insurgent
          Conclusion - it is impossible, categorically to allow the development of events in Belarus according to the Ukrainian scenario, especially considering the fact that there are a number of key, vital facilities of the RF Ministry of Defense, and the RB air defense is included in a single system with the Russian

          Dead number ...
          Grygorich did everything to make the situation irreversible.
          1. He put the information field into the hands of supporters of a change of power. Not into the hands of Tikhanovskaya, but those who spin the Maidan.
          2. He is not able to cut off the channels of dissemination of information propaganda. Both Nexta and Telegram work bypassing servers, directly through the networks of Polish operators.
          3. An open door policy for the good West was combined with a closed door policy for Russia. And this is despite the union treaty signed and ratified in 2000.
          For 20 years (twenty, Karl!), This leader of the Belarusians did everything to ensure that there were as few good mentions of Russia in the media as possible.
          That Russia is not just an ally, but a fraternal people, only the Belarusians themselves remember.
          And today the AHL is reaping the fruits of its multi-vector approach. All the leaders of the countries of the dermocratic choice refused it. Everyone, absolutely everyone, considers him not a handshake. Even the clown who calls himself the president of Ukraine threatens him from his office.
          On the question “What to do?” I answer: “We, the Russians, and the country of the Russian Federation” cannot do anything.
          We can only hope for the prudence of the Belarusian people.
          The only problem is that, as a result of the oblivion of the pro-Russian vector in the policy of the Republic of Belarus and the AHL, personally, over the past 20 years, that generation has grown up that is under the pig's flags and demonstrates support for the opposition. These are those who grew up under the cries of the importance of contacts with the West. And Russia was milked in silence, because "we are brothers."
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 17 August 2020 10: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: stalkerwalker

            Dead number ...
            Grygorich did everything to make the situation irreversible.


            All, "Katz offers to give up"? Or will there be some other,"non-proprietary" thoughts?

            PS - The eternally not discouraged Baron Munchausen liked to repeat - "If you were swallowed by a cannibal, then even in this case you have TWO OUTPUTS ... " yes

            And besides,"the situation is not reversible"for whom, personally LAS?

            But it's not about him at all No. and oh Belarus, which Russia is obliged to keep in its sphere of influence in any way ...
            1. alien
              alien 17 August 2020 10: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Insurgent
              "If you were swallowed by a cannibal, then even in this case you have TWO OUTPUTS ..."

              One of the ways out, as an option, Lukashenka must come to an agreement with Babariko. For example, to appoint him prime minister, Maria Kolesnikova - minister of culture. This compromise would suit most of the Belarusians. But the ambitions of both of them are pushing Belarus into chaos.

              Why demolish an old house if a new one has not been built?
            2. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 17 August 2020 11: 01 New
              -2
              Quote: Insurgent
              Everything, "Katz offers to surrender"? Or will there be some other, "non-proprietary" thoughts?

              I do not understand the course of your thoughts ...
              Should I go to Belarus and support the AHL at rallies?
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 17 August 2020 11: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                I do not understand the course of your thoughts ...

                You are not following my thoughts, but think about how Russia at the state level can (and should) act in the event of an aggravation of the situation with an attempt to separate Belarus from Russia ...
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Should I go to Belarus and support the AHL at rallies?

                Do not worry,to you personally will determine what and how you will have to do in the scenario of Belarus joining the United State.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 17 August 2020 11: 20 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  Do not worry, you will be personally determined what and how you will have to do in the scenario of Belarus joining the United State.

                  Thank. I'll know.
                  Where and when to get AK?
                  wink
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  You don't follow my thoughts, but think about how Russia at the state level can (and should) act in the event of an aggravation of the situation with an attempt to separate Belarus from Russia ..

                  It's hard for me to hijack me behind your thought process lol
                  But I'll try..
                  laughing
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 17 August 2020 11: 24 New
                    +2
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Where and when to get AK?

                    Do not worry if you are liable for military service, and there will be a need for your mobilization, you will be notified ...

                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    It's hard for me to hijack me behind your thought process
                    But I'll try..

                    Yes, Be Kind, try yes
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 03 New
            -2
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            2. He is not able to cut off the channels of dissemination of information propaganda. Both Nexta and Telegram work bypassing servers, directly through the networks of Polish operators.

            The thief to whom you yourself opened the doors of your apartment, and watch how they rob you.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 17 August 2020 11: 27 New
              -1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              2. He is not able to cut off the channels of dissemination of information propaganda. Both Nexta and Telegram work bypassing servers, directly through the networks of Polish operators.

              The thief to whom you yourself opened the doors of your apartment, and watch how they rob you.

              I agree.
              Sadness. Great. With low chances and positive success for Russia.
          3. Alber alber
            Alber alber 17 August 2020 23: 56 New
            0
            A dead number is when you yourself are dead, but for now this is not how you need to act. Any clever methods are good, to provoke the entry of troops from Poland, Lithuania, etc., gangs from the ruins, specialists must work out the topic inside and out, and act, and not give it over to the West, they will not refuse any provocation, the same Boeing is in ruins
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 August 2020 09: 55 New
      -6
      Quote: Insurgent
      I am fighting a fortress. I'm waiting for reinforcements ..

      Wait!
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 17 August 2020 10: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Insurgent
        I am fighting a fortress. I'm waiting for reinforcements ..

        Wait!


        Your comment, as if not quite at the address ...

        We, the DPR and LPR, feel support, Putin has publicly announced it yes , and besides, we now do not have such a threatening peak aggravation as in Belarus ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 August 2020 10: 18 New
          -3
          Quote: Insurgent
          Your comment, as if not quite at the address.

          I'm afraid that the reinforcements for Grigorich are already too late.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 17 August 2020 10: 28 New
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine

            I'm afraid that the reinforcements for Grigorich are already too late.

            On what basis did you make such a conclusion?

            On the contrary, I believe that AG still has a reserve of strength, money and time to eliminate its mistakes and prevent the worst.

            In extreme cases, his appeal for help from the Russian Federation will not go unnoticed ...

            In this case, he only needs to personally address the people of Belarus and explain the extreme necessity of this measure to preserve the national self-identity of the Belarusian ethnos.

            Not winter, there are flowers in Belarus yes



            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 07 New
              0
              Quote: Insurgent
              On what basis did you make such a conclusion?

              Because he brought the state of the country to a boil. You need to extinguish when it was smoldering, but now it is burning.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 17 August 2020 11: 10 New
                0
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Because he brought the state of the country to a boil. You need to extinguish when it was smoldering, but now it is burning.

                Quote: Insurgent

                On what basis did you make such a conclusion?


                I see ... the rest of the points of the comment you "did not notice"...
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 17 August 2020 12: 00 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  You "did not notice" the rest of the points of the comment ...

                  The rest of the points no longer depend on us, no matter what we write.
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 17 August 2020 09: 24 New
    +7
    French reporters wonder if there will be a coup d'etat in Belarus. smileIt would be better to write how bloody Macron dispersed the peaceful demonstrations of yellow vests ... using brutal violence against peaceful Parisians. Down with bloody dictator Macron ... Macron must go.
    1. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 17 August 2020 09: 49 New
      -11
      It would be better to write how bloody Macron dispersed the peaceful demonstrations of yellow vests ... using brutal violence against peaceful Parisians. Down with bloody dictator Macron ... Macron must go.

      To avoid looking like a stupid clown, try Google to insert the phrase "riots in Paris" and hit the search button.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 17 August 2020 09: 52 New
        +1
        Simon don't give any stupid advice? smile
      2. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 17 August 2020 09: 54 New
        +4
        How do you like the result?


        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 August 2020 10: 22 New
          -2
          Quote: Servisinzhener
          How do you like the result?

          I don't understand why the people are in "green vests", but the top photo is even more interesting, on the right a man stands in a green vest and hat with earflaps... Is it really so cold in Belarus now ???
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 17 August 2020 10: 46 New
            +5
            Quote: tihonmarine
            I don't understand why the people are in "green vests", but the top photo is even more interesting, on the right a man is in a green vest and a hat with earflaps. Is it really so cold in Belarus now ???

            So turn on the "understanding", and you will understand that the photo is from ... France fellow .
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 50 New
              -2
              Quote: Insurgent
              So turn on the "understanding", and you will understand that the photo is from ... France ...

              I turned on the reminder, but I never saw a man in a hat with earflaps in France, if only "Sanyok".
  6. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 17 August 2020 09: 24 New
    +9
    La Tribune is no longer the same, no one needs economic forecasts, owners' incomes have fallen. Need to ignite! And then Alexandra Grigorievich, who did not have time to shake the leaden ass out of the burning chair in time. That's the topic. And this is hypocrisy, a petty sin. Do not believe me, take an interest in the history of France
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 August 2020 09: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Olddetractor
      Do not believe me, take an interest in the history of France

      I believe! The history of France is like a children's shirt ...
  7. Livonetc
    Livonetc 17 August 2020 09: 26 New
    10
    They called Lukashenka "the last dictator of Europe" before.
    Nothing new.
    And Lukashenka is not changing either.
    He was, and remains, a weather vane.
    Now, perhaps, they poured vigorous liquid into his ports.
    The situation needs to be corrected.
    Wait for a certain period in which to proactively identify possible receivers of power.
    And to inform Lukashenka that it is time for him to be well-deserved.
  8. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 August 2020 09: 32 New
    +2
    If Lukashenka, as you write here, “flirted with the West,” he did it without looking back at the media.
    His relations with a number of heads of state are quite stable. Well, the scribblers have always existed. The dogs howl as the caravan moves on. The scribes have to sprinkle something, otherwise they will remain hungry. They are not at all the ultimate truth, but professional brain twists.
    Whether Lukashenka is good or bad is not for La Tribune, but for the citizens of his country.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 August 2020 10: 24 New
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Whether Lukashenka is good or bad is not for La Tribune, but for the citizens of his country.

      I’m surprised myself ..
      But I completely agree ...
      hi
  9. Roman246810
    Roman246810 17 August 2020 09: 32 New
    -12
    She named it as it is ..
    And about the yellow vests, the author did not remember the topic at all .. Maybe the protesters in Belarus also walk and burn cars along the way ?? Robbing and destroying shops and shopping centers ??
    Hooligans and arsonists must be arrested everywhere ... but peaceful rallies against the seizure of power are the right of the people ..
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 17 August 2020 09: 48 New
      +5
      Occupy Street remind ... peaceful rallies of the Americans were dispersed with extreme cruelty.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 August 2020 10: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Roman246810
      but peaceful rallies against the seizure of power are the right of the people ..

      As well as the right of power to defend itself. Here, he is right who has more rights.
      1. Roman246810
        Roman246810 17 August 2020 11: 02 New
        -5
        power right to defend itself

        If you defend yourself with truncheons from peaceful rallies, then there is no need to spit in some French newspaper that is called a dictator ..
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 17 August 2020 09: 35 New
    +2
    Now the media in Europe and the US write that they do not intend to recognize Lukashenko as president in the West.

    But this is BEAUTIFUL !!! "good fellows" LESSON!
    Yes, "good fellows", with an empty skull, were not extinct in this part of the world! Classics of the genre.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 August 2020 09: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      But this is BEAUTIFUL !!! "good fellows" LESSON!

      The first lesson was Miloshovich, the second was Yanukovych (and others). I could have made conclusions about Lukashenka, but I thought that he was special, irreplaceable and loved. But the media can turn anyone from anyone into a "people's choice" and also an "enemy of the people". I think we all remember this, and have not forgotten.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 August 2020 10: 18 New
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        But the media can turn anyone from anyone into a "people's choice" and also an "enemy of the people"

        No, no, the chosen one also needs to participate in this !!!
        it is only for distant "admirers" that there will be restrictions on real information, those actually present will have their own opinion on the fact of the deeds, actions of a particular person.
        The media can inflate to the skies what they need, what they ordered / paid for, nothing more.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          The media can inflate to the skies what they need, what they ordered / paid for, nothing more.

          And what will they live on if they stop being paid.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 August 2020 12: 08 New
            0
            As long as a person has at least some kind of interes, the writing fraternity will write, they will be paid.
  11. nobody111body
    nobody111body 17 August 2020 09: 39 New
    +3
    repression and repression again, because a small gang of opposition mercenaries is trying to overthrow the legitimate president and carry out a coup in Belarus; no state can do without repression, for without internal order it is doomed; a handful of American Jews carries out repression to retain power permanently over Niger Latinos and Indians fbi cia endless construction of aircraft carriers to loot the oil-state is a form of repression
    1. Roman246810
      Roman246810 17 August 2020 09: 51 New
      -9
      A small amendment is to overthrow the Illegal President ..
      And after that, everything written above can be thrown into the trash can ..
    2. Zeev zeev
      Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 10: 00 New
      -3
      This "small gang" took to the streets of Belarusian cities yesterday. There are more than 300 thousand people in Minsk alone.
  12. Zeev zeev
    Zeev zeev 17 August 2020 09: 39 New
    0
    The natural result of a quarter-century dictatorship, lies, rewriting of laws, rudeness and neglect of the citizens of Belarus.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: ZeevZeev
      The natural result of a quarter-century dictatorship

      Yes, you are right, four centuries ago the territory of modern Belarus was part of the Rzeczpospolita. And of course there was no dictatorship there, but only democracy, freedom and the right to choose the people.
  13. iouris
    iouris 17 August 2020 09: 43 New
    +2
    Don't read the "French press".
  14. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 August 2020 09: 44 New
    +5
    The European media make it clear that they expected only one thing from Lukashenka - the resignation of his presidential powers after the end of his fifth term.

    In 2015, the West needed "democrat Alexander Grigorich", but now it does not need "dictator Lukashenko".
  15. Simon schempp
    Simon schempp 17 August 2020 09: 46 New
    -5
    Apparently, the French police can beat people in the streets and the French courts can try activists - this is democracy ... But in Belarus, you cannot do the same, since it is a "dictatorship" ...

    How enraged are these "analysts" who cannot (or do not want) to grasp the essence of the issue in the slightest degree.

    1. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 17 August 2020 10: 06 New
      -9
      It is difficult to say what degree of hypocrisy this is.

      This is an extreme degree of hypocrisy. Compare those who went out to rob shops and burn cars, with those who went out to peacefully defend their rights.





      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 August 2020 11: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Simon Schempp
        This is an extreme degree of hypocrisy.

        Telephone; it is a means of communication, not a means of entertainment, which is still compromising evidence against itself.
    2. Roman246810
      Roman246810 17 August 2020 10: 07 New
      -7
      You can also add ... so that one-eyed people still have a picture in their heads between riots and rallies ..





    3. Dart
      Dart 17 August 2020 12: 39 New
      -1
      ek you twisted ... and the photo where this black man goes on a date with roses, and Belarus with bare ankles tramples on a policeman, was it weak to draw? but no, we need contrasts ..
  16. taiga2018
    taiga2018 17 August 2020 09: 48 New
    +1
    So this old fool was warned by all who were lazy about the dangers of flirting with the West, but he did not listen to anyone and did not hear ... Let's appoint this Tikhanovskaya as president, it will be better for Russia, at least these tales about the union state will end and there will be honest relations, there will be no need to support the supposedly pro-Russian Belarus in every possible way ...
  17. Maks1995
    Maks1995 17 August 2020 09: 49 New
    +2
    Eh ... that is, if he had not flirted with the West, he would have been immediately recognized and not called a dictator ???

    Right, terrible hypocrisy ...
    1. Roman246810
      Roman246810 17 August 2020 10: 21 New
      -3
      Well, yes .. the title is porridge .. as well as in the heads ..))
    2. vitvit123
      vitvit123 17 August 2020 11: 01 New
      0
      About flirting with the West ...
      It's just nice: his own lard, by ...
      And what was named or not named - do not care ..
  18. bulava
    bulava 17 August 2020 10: 00 New
    -1
    The French press is catching up with British scientists in terms of comics.
  19. askort154
    askort154 17 August 2020 10: 00 New
    +1
    French press calls Belarus a dictatorship at the gates of Europe

    A reason for the "democratic" countries to light a new fire on the Russian border.
    And they will throw their firewood through Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine.
    The next stage of the "color revolution" will begin - of the "white-flower" type, therefore the media flywheel is slowly being spun.
  20. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 17 August 2020 10: 09 New
    -7
    Old Man will calmly hold on to power
    1. Roman246810
      Roman246810 17 August 2020 10: 19 New
      -4
      Therefore, in hysterics, he calls Putin twice a day ..))
      "calmly" is when the last nights go to bed, and does not know where he will wake up .. and whether he will wake up at all ..
      1. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
        Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 17 August 2020 11: 05 New
        -1
        What hysteria? He will suppress these performances and transplant everyone
        He does not hand over the Siloviks, they are all for him
        1. Roman246810
          Roman246810 17 August 2020 11: 21 New
          -4
          I already got a bit shit, and started letting everyone out slowly ..
          And whoever he does not give up there is his problem .. but they are already starting to give him up !!
          Hysteria is the most ordinary .. when you worry about your butt (and head), and do not know what to do .. and therefore carry all kinds of game
          At the gates of Belarus, "NATO troops clang their tracks," and tanks and planes "take off 15 minutes from our borders," Lukashenko said.
          in the hope that Putin will step in and support him in the fight for the seat ..
    2. askort154
      askort154 17 August 2020 10: 22 New
      -1
      Hydrograph Golden Horn Bay
      Old Man will calmly hold on to power

      Now Russia is forced to do everything to keep him. Otherwise, it will be the second Ukraine on our border.
      1. Roman246810
        Roman246810 17 August 2020 10: 31 New
        -4
        Yeah .. let's also unleash a war in Belarus, and we will quarrel with them too ..
  21. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 August 2020 10: 11 New
    +4
    "Will there be a Belarusian spring?" - a revolutionary option for Belarus like the “Arab Spring”.
    A counter question - will there be a French, Italian, Spanish, Polish ... spring? Regarding Lukashenka’s cruelty, how was the “yellow vests” treated in France? And in Spain, the pro-independence of Catalonia were patted on the head? and many more examples can be cited. Does it mean that "enlightened and civilized" Europe can do anything, while others are not yet morally ripe for that?
    1. Roman246810
      Roman246810 17 August 2020 10: 38 New
      -6
      And in Spain, the pro-independence of Catalonia patted on the head?


      I forgot to write about Crimea.
      1. Dart
        Dart 17 August 2020 12: 43 New
        -1
        well, if you know everything, then hell to inflate .. "they will put you on, but you don't steal ...!"
  22. parusnik
    parusnik 17 August 2020 10: 12 New
    +3
    All over the world, in fact, dictatorial regimes, replaced and not replaced, covered with democratic slogans ... And then they found a dictator ... For whom the Belarusian people are fighting, the same dictators who will change .. Seven underground kings, remember this tale? ..That’s all you have democracy in full view ... You would look at yourself ... Guys from the newspaper, you are not working for yourself, and expressing not your own opinion ... The views of those who own the newspaper ...
  23. Wolf
    Wolf 17 August 2020 10: 15 New
    +7
    In the evenings in the United States, 17 people were shot dead, and 4 have already died, another 5 in serious condition.
    Do these demonkratski media write about the dictatorship in the USA? You have to be a lot of stupid almost monkeys to swallow garbage lies in the western media. Democracy is where there is a servant, slaves, trash, traitors, perversion to power, where there is no dictatorship.
    Let it be better to write how many children without tragedy disappear in France demoncratic, and how many dictatorially in Belarus!
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 17 August 2020 10: 31 New
      0
      In the evenings in the United States, 17 people were shot dead, and 4 have already died, another 5 in serious condition.
      ... This is the harsh truth of life ... smile
  24. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 17 August 2020 10: 24 New
    0
    Quote: ZeevZeev
    In Belarus, two people were officially killed in two days. Alexander Vikhor was beaten to death by cops in Gomel, Alexander Taraikovsky was shot with a rubber bullet while he was standing with his hands up. And 86 Belarusians disappeared without a trace, they are not on the lists of detainees, nor among those released. Quite possibly they are not alive. In two days.

    Let me doubt that someone was shot because he was standing with his hands up.
    There were so many protesters hitting with sticks, stones and homemade vaping devices, and they only shot the one who was standing with his hands up. Dear Zeev, you cannot think that all people are stupider than you. Quite peaceful demonstrators were burned in 2014 in Odessa.
    And 86 missing - fled to Poland or Lithuania because they committed crimes.
  25. fn34440
    fn34440 17 August 2020 10: 28 New
    +3
    The tone of this publication in the FRENCH agitational-jaundiced media (you haven’t looked through the last issue of Charlie Hebdo) was set by Macron.
    The official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Maria Zakharova in social networks commented on the words of the French President about the support of the demonstrators in Belarus.

    “The European Union should continue to mobilize in support of hundreds of thousands of Belarusians who peacefully stand up for the observance of their rights, freedom and sovereignty,” Emmanuel wrote on Twitter.

    “When will he ask the European Union to continue mobilizing together with the hundreds of thousands of yellow vests who, at peaceful demonstrations, seek to respect their rights, freedoms and sovereignty? When will the European Union stop waiting for the requests of the presidents of the member states and begin to proactively mobilize to support the protest actions in its space? Hypocrisy as it is. "Our French chameleon. Sorry. French friend and partner.
  26. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 17 August 2020 10: 32 New
    +1
    Two vetoed UN Security Council members have recognized Lukashenko. The rest is lyrics ...
  27. Roman246810
    Roman246810 17 August 2020 10: 36 New
    -4
    At the gates of Belarus "NATO troops clang their tracks", and tanks and planes - "on takeoff 15 minutes from our borders," Lukashenko said.


    Carrying such game .. it’s quite my people to take for morons ..
    How pathetic he is ..
  28. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 17 August 2020 10: 47 New
    -2
    Earlier, the "West" had a "personal enmity" for Putin ... And now Lukashenka "drew in" too ... So it turned out to be a "sweet couple"! By the way, Lukashenka began to remind me of Mussolini something ... request (Why would it? Why would it? what )
  29. boom Boom
    boom Boom 17 August 2020 10: 48 New
    +2
    A person who rigs the voting data, who beats and shoots at his own people while creating concentration camps and torturing his own people there and he is called the DICTATOR
  30. Alexander X
    Alexander X 17 August 2020 10: 49 New
    -1
    Didn't the forum participants notice that the degree of hysteria like "Lukashenka himself hammered nails into his coffin. That nothing can be done. That the people will sweep him away ... and so on." constantly artificially injected? That is, they are trying to create an impression of mass character ... What kind of mass character can there be, well, let it be, with 10 or 20 thousand protesters? A drop of poison in the 10 millionth sea of ​​Belarusians. Lukashehko, who will sweep away this rot in the subordination of the law enforcement service and the army, if necessary. By the way, the security forces are called so that they are obliged to use force against those who violate the public order. It is clear that the protests were organized by pro-Westerners. Proof of this and the flags are the same, which people will not buy for their money and individuals who, instead of earning money for the family, have been dashing around the streets for a day ...
    Tales of bullying: where is the medical report for at least one case?
    1. Roman246810
      Roman246810 17 August 2020 11: 09 New
      -4
      "Are they constantly artificially inflating? That is, they are trying to create an impression of mass character ... What kind of mass character can there be, well, let it be, with 10 or 20 thousand protesters?"


      I noticed that they artificially pretend that nothing is happening .. they say - some 10 thousand ..
      Who are you rubbing this game with ?? Open your eyes - everyone has the Internet at hand .. hundreds of thousands in the crowded streets of Minsk ..
      Sure. not 10 million .. But even in our country no more than half of the population goes to the polls .. it is clear that not everyone will go to protests .. Especially when they can beat them with truncheons ..

      law enforcers, therefore, are called so that they are obliged to use force against those who violate the public order.

      Throw away your training manual .. and first teach me how a rally differs from a violation of law and order ..

      It is clear that the protests were organized by pro-Westerners.

      It is clear that you have Kisel-TV in your head ..
      1. Solo2503
        Solo2503 17 August 2020 11: 43 New
        +2
        Roma, will you be one of those? Now you write for Hohlobundia, now for the Byalorussians. Do you live with the okey yourself?
  31. Xenofont
    Xenofont 17 August 2020 11: 21 New
    0
    Luka cleared out about the Russian forces to please the nationalists so thoroughly that in the current conditions he did not have an alternative force capable of supporting him in an organized manner both on the streets and in the information space. Our ambassador Babich tried to work with the population, which infuriated Luka and, thanks to Putin's unwise policies, was thrown out of the country.
  32. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 17 August 2020 14: 54 New
    0
    Join Russia quickly, until RB like Tuzik tore a hot-water bottle by these Anglo-Saxon jackals stinking Russophobic
  33. Alber alber
    Alber alber 17 August 2020 23: 45 New
    +1
    Hmmm, a cockroach is a cockroach, and that the GDP, again a step forward, two steps back, like a ruin, was threatened with sanctions, he stopped Donbass, and the west, as usual, deceived Volodya and imposed sanctions, if here the GDP again falls into universal human values, then a pittance his price
  34. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 August 2020 23: 52 New
    0
    Yes, Luka has done well. And you can't roll out protesters with tanks. And I am already starting to figure out where the Belarusian ATO will begin near our borders.
  35. Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 19 August 2020 19: 37 New
    0
    And what does "the result of flirting with the West" have to do with it? Yes, and "natural"? Lukashenka would not have flirted - it would have been exactly the same. This time the West took the side of the majority of Belarusians, who felt themselves deceived by the pseudo-elections. Russia, positioning itself as a brother (!), Took the side of the minority of Belarusians. For which in the future he will pay off with a decrease in his influence. A surprisingly short-sighted position. And "yellow vests" have nothing to do with it. There was no peaceful protest. Anything but peaceful. Surprisingly myopic judgments of the author of the publication.