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Kitchen in the USSR: how to choose a wife-cook and take a queue at the store in the morning

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The very first thing we thought of doing at home after the wedding was student toast. A lot of young people came to visit us. What to treat? But what: chunks of dry loaf under the tap with water, soak on both sides, sprinkle abundantly with sugar and fry in oil until the sugar begins to melt. But so as not to burn! Then you can send it with cinnamon. And serve with coffee. "Dish of quick response"!


The bear fidgeted on the windowsill, then cleared his throat and said:
- I love rolls, buns, loaves and muffins! I love bread, and cake, and cakes, and gingerbread, even Tula, even honey, even glazed. I like sushki too, and bagels, bagels, pies with meat, jam, cabbage and rice.
I passionately love dumplings, and especially cheesecakes, if they are fresh, but stale, too, nothing. You can oatmeal cookies and vanilla crackers.
And I also love sprats, saury, marinated pike perch, gobies in tomato, a piece in my own juice, eggplant caviar, slices of zucchini and fried potatoes ...
Oh yes! I love ice cream with all my heart. For seven, for nine. Thirteen, fifteen, nineteen. For twenty-two and twenty-eight. "
Victor Dragunsky. What Bear Loves


Memories of the past. After material with my memories of how people ate during the USSR many of the site visitors complained: it's a pity that everything is over! .. And one even wrote that he had specially prepared illustrations for his future comments. Well, I dare not deceive their hopes. Here is the continuation of this material. And to all those who believe that this is not exactly a military topic, I will answer that a hungry soldier will not fight much, that a mother who has not received a varied and healthy diet will not give birth to a healthy child and a healthy soldier will not feed, that iodine deficiency, and he has us in Russia is typical for many regions and population groups, leads to mental retardation, as well as damage to the pituitary gland in childhood by radiation, and passive smoking in the absence of a sufficiently large amount of citrus in the child's diet is doubly dangerous! So the food problem is strategically very important. Moreover, paraphrasing a well-known proverb, we can reasonably assert: tell me what you eat, and I will tell you who you are! Last time we stopped somewhere in 1970 ... Today the story will start in 1972, when, after graduating from a special school with English, I entered to study at the Penza Pedagogical Institute. V. G. Belinsky on the specialty "History and English ”. But what kind of photos should I use for this material? I thought and decided: with photographs of various delicious dishes that everyone can cook today. Simple, affordable and delicious. Last checked!

Many here in the comments recalled what they ate during their student years. But I don't remember this at all. There was a student cafeteria, there was a traditional mashed potatoes with a cutlet, and, of course, cheesecakes and pies, but I did not remember whether all this was tasty. I had to study and take care of the girls, because there were many of them, and I was alone. By this time, my mother had married Pyotr Shpakovsky for the second time and left for Rostov, and at home I was left with a silent grandfather for many years and a grandmother who was periodically hospitalized due to problems with unhealthy nutrition: strong broths, cabbage soup with pork, strong transparent ear ... All this did not add health to her (and to me too). In general, everything was like in the operetta "Princess of the Circus": "I'm tired of basking in someone else's fire, but where is the heart that will love me." And my stepfather advised me how best to find a life partner. Besides the fact that she must be beautiful, charming and smart ... Look, he said, as a woman chews food, and you will not make a mistake! She should not rummage in a plate and pick food, and her appetite should be good, but she should not overeat at dinner. While eating, she must hold a fork in her left hand and a knife in her right. Look also at her mother: the daughter repeats her "dimensions" in old age. Close your eyes and listen to her voice: it does not change with old age (although everything else changes!), And if you are not too pleased to listen to it now, what will happen next? Her gait should be light, her calves should be graceful, and (very important) she should be able to cook well. Everything else will follow.


These are not dumplings, but dumplings with potatoes. And vegetable broth ...

And, I must say, the advice he gave me was very useful. Using them, I found myself a life companion, with whom I have been living for 46 years, and over all these years I have never thought that I was wrong with my choice. Including the kitchen! We got married after the second year, in the summer of 1974, and immediately began to run the household ourselves and ... for the first time went together to buy groceries in a nearby cooperative store. That is why I remember this day especially well, as well as everything that we saw that time in this store.


Stuffed squash: quick and tasty, and you can do it with boiled liver filling!

There was a fresh vegetable section, and it contained boxes of hideous-looking potatoes mixed with earth, and equally dirty carrots. There was a bow, but small. There were also pickled green tomatoes and salted herring in a barrel. On the shelves are three-liter jars of tomato, apple, pear and birch juice, as well as pickled squash and cucumbers, traditional for all Soviet stores of that time. All these containers were covered with dust. In my opinion, nobody bought them then.


Shrimp, bell pepper and cauliflower salad has a very delicious taste

In the dairy section, there was draft milk, milk in bottles, milk in paper triangular bags. Sour cream weighed out and in jars. Mayonnaise "Provencal" and "Spring" (with dill). Butter by weight, in packs, and of two types: "just butter" and "chocolate". The cheeses were presented by "Rossiyskiy", "Poshekhonskiy", "Gollandskiy" and "Smoked". There were also three types of processed curd cheeses, snacks for drunkards: "City", "Friendship" and some other. These are in a package made of "silver paper". Processed cheese “Yantar” has already appeared in plastic jars, we bought it quite often. There were loose cottage cheese and "curd mass", as well as curd snacks with raisins (very fresh and tasty).


Baked mackerel. There is no need to tell anything here. What and how, everything can be seen in the photo

Sausages were as follows: "Doctor", "Amateur" (interspersed with bacon), "Livernaya" (somehow bought, did not like it), and also half-smoked "Krakowska", and fat, like a pig, in a natural casing - "Armavir" ... There were sausages, but there were no sausages at all in any of the Penza stores. There are also two types of bacon: lard-bacon "Hungarian", sprinkled with red pepper, and "just" lard, sprinkled with black pepper. And then there was "Tambov gammon" - the most tender ham "with a tear." There were also a lot of sweets, but ... there was no "Bird's milk". This is only from Moscow. But my favorite truffles were, there were filled chocolate bars, there was coffee beans and elephant tea. There was no meat. After him I had to go to the city center in the "Myasnaya Passage", where I went with my grandmother and all the subtleties of his choice and purchase comprehended. There was also a market nearby, where a chicken cost ... only 3 rubles, well, 3,50, if it's really big. And they also sold meat of rabbits and nutria, tasty and, in comparison with rabbits, very large "animals" - "marsh beavers". Now in Penza they are no longer sold, but in Pyatigorsk, Yeisk and Taman in the markets I came across them quite recently.


Spring salad with radishes



A rare guest now on our table is a traditional Olivier. But sometimes we do ...

So, as you can see, the assortment of products in 1972 in an ordinary store in an ordinary city was very good. Allowed, in general, to eat tasty and varied. Meat delicacies were also periodically “thrown away”: “neck”, “carbonade”. It was bad with the fish. There was plenty of hake. There was herring in barrels, but, let's say, of the second grade. In 1972, my stepfather called me to Moscow, where he worked in the archives of the Moscow Region, and lived in the Rossiya Hotel. There, sausages and steamed sturgeon were served right in the room, but ... it was impossible for an ordinary citizen to get a job there in principle.


Traditional spring dish: morels in sour cream


Vinaigrette is also our traditional food, which came from the times of the USSR

But let's go back, however, to 1974. My wife and I returned home from the store, began to cook dinner and ... immediately for the first time and had a fight. And because of the food! We were going to cook soup, so my wife demanded that I fry onions and carrots with it. "What for? And so it will do! " - “No, it won't! It's tastier this way ... "-" I won't! We don’t do it like that… ”Word for word, well, it went. They were young, hot as gunpowder. As a result, an interesting thing turned out that in my family of teachers, and even my mother, Ph.D., associate professor, all my life that I remembered, they had cooked incorrectly. Meat, vegetables, roots - they were all poured into a saucepan at once, put on the fire and ... my grandfather sat, cooked "it" for two hours. Meat with vegetables! It turned out to be "fucking", as my young wife told me, but I didn't know that! And here on Proletarskaya Street they cooked like that in all the families that I knew. But we had the book "On tasty and healthy food" and "Schoolchildren's nutrition", and I read them, but ... I did not do that! This is the inertial force of human thinking. So, when, contrary to the obviousness, here on "VO", some say "haircut", when in fact "shaved", I am not at all surprised. They really see so, think so, and it is completely useless to convince them.


My wife's very tasty pastries: a roll with cottage cheese from the Samy Smak magazine. I tried to do it - it turned out great!


Red bean pate

That time I had enough to admit that my wife was right, and the soup really turned out to be tastier. I must say that the “Gifts of Nature” store opened in Penza was a great help for our young family in those years. In addition to expensive nuts and traditional birch sap, in winter they sold ptarmigan and quail, though not plucked, in feathers. A partridge cost 1 ruble, and a quail - 50 kopecks. Three partridges - three soups or two main courses for our family of three, because a year later we already had a daughter, and she was growing very quickly. Then the children's kitchen also helped a lot (we were lucky, it was located not far from our house!), Where we received mixtures of "V-oats", "V-kefir", "Delicious curd", although sometimes we had to stand in line. But ... then there was not so much any baby food as it is now. By the way, this children's kitchen still works for us today, but our granddaughter, who was born in 2002, found it unnecessary. Everything you need can be bought at the pharmacy and grocery stores. But then, I repeat, in the 70s, it was a very important help in baby food.


"Cheese sticks" for 5-hour tea


Salad of cabbage, sauerkraut, fresh bell peppers and carrots, contains a lot of vitamins. And pepper seeds go for planting in spring!

Neither in 1975, nor in 1976, nor in 1977, when we graduated from the university and went to teach in the countryside, did we notice a particular deterioration in the range of products. Poverty, and frank, greeted us a rural grocery store. So my fellow teachers even asked me to bring a pack of butter from the city, and I brought it. But during the three years that we spent there, the situation has changed dramatically.


Baked tomatoes in Spanish. Small tomatoes are cut into slices, salted with spices and baked in the oven on a baking sheet in olive oil. It is better to use spices. Of ours, only suneli hops with the addition of dried and crushed ginger are suitable. You can eat hot or cold. In this case, a great snack!



The same tomatoes, baked in quarters


New Year's homemade cake

Jars of juices remained, cucumbers and squash remained, but everything else was now "thrown away" at about five o'clock, when workers walked home from the factory. And then our people found a way out! Grandmothers from all the houses that stood around the store, at 5-6 o'clock in the morning (!) Went to him, took a queue, and stood there, alternately replacing each other. The windows of my apartment overlooked exactly this store and this line. So it was very easy for us to control the process of standing. The queue was small, but by five o'clock it magically increased tenfold: their children, grandchildren, relatives, friends of relatives and relatives of friends were attached to the grandmothers, so when the store opened and began to "give" butter in packs to the poor going from the factory the workers could only join the huge queue, which they did, loudly cursing the old women and others like them standing in front of them.


We mainly have our own baked goods. In bakeries, they put too much soda in it ...


Potatoes baked with parmesan and our country sour cream

And you could understand them. Only from our family, five people stood in line, and if they "gave" two packs of butter, then ... we bought 10 of them and immediately ran back to the back of the line for a new batch. Sometimes the oil was obtained a second time! And the situation, at least in our country in Penza, was getting worse and worse until 1985, when with the coming to power of M. Gorbachev appeared, no, not food, but at least hope for improvement. Well, what happened next will be told next time.

To be continued ...

P. S. "Recipe from the cook." One of my favorite Italian recipes, which, by the way, I love very much: Tuscan Gourmet Sauce. Cut a pound of peeled zucchini into cubes and simmer in a glass of water in a frying pan until the water boils away. Salt. How to prepare - add butter, two cubes with a walnut. Cool, put in a blender, add 15 green basil leaves (you can also purple - checked!) And "blend" until a uniform mass. Salt if necessary. You can spread on bruschetta bread, hot and cold, put on pasta and just eat this sauce with spoons along with the sausage! Do it to your wives and they will admire you!
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Articles from this series:
Cookbook of the Country of the Soviets. Food in stores and at home.
As it was in the USSR. The taste of our childhood
Back to the Land of Soviets. Bra for a boy
Back to USSR. Information for Soviet children
Archival affairs: NKVD on peasants and Stakhanovites
Archival affairs. From “class alien” to “loss of party intuition”
Back to USSR. Mosaic of memory
By the wave of our memory
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  1. apro
    apro 23 August 2020 05: 54 New
    -11
    Oh ... again, how bad we lived in the USSR. On the way to a brighter future, the communists forgot to spoon-feed the people?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 23 August 2020 06: 04 New
      25
      Rather the opposite. A popular genre now. Nostalgie is called. But I must admit that I also miss the whites and dumplings with cherries from Granny. And what kind of cabbage she used to cook.
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 23 August 2020 06: 17 New
        44
        They miss now (whoever caught those times) for natural products without any chemistry. It doesn't matter whether it's food products, alcohol or tobacco, everything was real, the taste and smell of which I still remember.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 23 August 2020 07: 15 New
          -7
          Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
          They miss now (whoever caught those times) for natural products without any chemistry. It doesn't matter whether it's food products, alcohol or tobacco, everything was real, the taste and smell of which I still remember.

          Well, not really. Vegetables and fruits - herbicides with pesticides, Tobacco ... well, maybe Belomorkanal. Cigarettes - below any criticism, with what everything got mixed up there - is not clear.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 23 August 2020 16: 19 New
            10
            Not, Albert hi , "Prima" Dukatovskaya against the general background was very much even nothing, especially in comparison with Morshanskaya. And I, actually, in the early seventies switched to "Ligeros", but the store "Havana" was, unfortunately, not in every city of our country.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 23 August 2020 17: 50 New
              +5
              Greetings, Constantine! hi I remember the sour taste of Cosmos and Doina, and the difference with Camel and Kent.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 23 August 2020 18: 08 New
                +7
                I haven't tried Doina, Space for young ladies, but I still remember the nightmare named Vatra. Yes! There was also the Armavir Pamir ("The Beggar in the Mountains"), so there they did not bother at all, twisted sticks into tissue paper.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 23 August 2020 19: 00 New
                  +7
                  Was space considered for young ladies? laughing I lit space in Israel - the cop twists me by the hand. And he takes away the cigarette, extinguishes it neatly and asks the owner of the stall for a cellophane bag. I laugh, take out a pack, give it to him. He examines, sniffs, I suggest he light a cigarette. Refuses, we apologize, but the stall laughs - says - these are Russian cigarettes laughing with a characteristic odor
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 23 August 2020 19: 20 New
                    +5
                    This cop did not smell the cigarette, otherwise he would immediately put on a gas mask. And there were also cigarette butts called New and South. People even composed verses about them:
                    "Southern cigarettes are the most unnecessary,
                    Cigarettes New, most h ... rented! " laughing
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 23 August 2020 19: 39 New
                      +7
                      Oh ... Mom and Dad smoked Doina, Fluerash, Kazbek and Prima. laughing
                  2. Kwas
                    Kwas 23 August 2020 19: 38 New
                    +9
                    And I recently found a pack of "Opal" - my grandmother's favorite cigarettes, the smell of childhood. I smoked - damn it, what a flavor, tobacco without any admixture! And this despite the fact that in general I smoked only 3 cigarettes in my life.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 23 August 2020 19: 42 New
                      +7
                      Therefore, it seemed to you tobacco without any impurities - or did you smoke not only cigarettes wink
                    2. Hantengri
                      Hantengri 23 August 2020 20: 01 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Kwas
                      And I recently found a pack of "Opal" ......... I smoked - damn it, what a flavor, tobacco without any admixture!

                      But I didn't treat my friend! Miser. I wouldn’t take it to the mountains and offer: "Would you please, Igor Vadimovich, to tempt a cigarette, a rare one?" And also an intellectual ...
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 24 August 2020 21: 54 New
                        +3
                        Igor Vadimovich, excuse me, but honestly, there were poop cigarettes! If you choose between "down" and "bitch", I am definitely for "bitch". And Konstantin, simply, out of habit "came".
                    3. Revolver
                      Revolver 25 August 2020 05: 32 New
                      0
                      Quote: Kwas
                      And I recently found a pack of "Opal" - my grandmother's favorite cigarettes, the smell of childhood. I smoked - damn it, what a flavor, tobacco without any admixture! And this despite the fact that in general I smoked only 3 cigarettes in my life.

                      I bought Opal and other Flight Attendants-Phoenix-Tu134 only out of great grief, when there was no BT or Rodopi. True, in the second half of perestroika, he stopped picking and picking, whatever Bulgaria is, grab a block - there may be no tomorrow.
                      And in America he gave up, which is incredibly happy, especially looking at the price tags, which exceeded $ 8 per pack.
                2. antivirus
                  antivirus 23 August 2020 19: 27 New
                  +4
                  1,5 packs a day Belomorkanal and at 75 years old death, lung cancer in his father
                  do not smoke and suffer for 10 years more.
                  Even 70, and even eighty years, only more and more .. and diseases ..
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 23 August 2020 19: 31 New
                    13
                    My father did not smoke at all and also cancer at about the same age. I'm over seventy, I've been smoking since fourteen and so far nothing. Here is how the "heavenly office" will decide who and when to issue a ticket to the Better World. smile
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 23 August 2020 20: 02 New
                      10
                      I had a heart attack at 41 - I completely agree about the heavenly office))
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 23 August 2020 20: 07 New
                        +6
                        So I also had, though a stroke, and fifty dollars, and without obvious consequences. ))
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 23 August 2020 20: 09 New
                        +8
                        So we will go to women until the age of 100 drinks
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 23 August 2020 20: 13 New
                        +8
                        In! I was not the first to speak out for women, but anyway, now Nikolai will appear and start about my pond and naked odalisques on it. laughing drinks
                      4. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 09: 49 New
                        +6
                        In! I was not the first to speak out for women, but anyway, now Nikolai will appear and start about my pond and naked odalisques on it.

                        Yes, let's start. About cheerful villagers in sheets. wink And you also add pictures, Uncle Kostya! drinks
                        Spring salad with radishes

                        Oh, delicious article! Pleased with Vyacheslav Olegovich! good Colleagues, they told me that in Penza and Tambov you can shoot two crops of radishes. Is it true? We have only one in St. Petersburg, for the white nights! request
                      5. Phil77
                        Phil77 24 August 2020 17: 57 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        about my pond and naked odalisques on it.

                        * I wish you showed me sausage, bacon, Abo dumplings with sour cream, otherwise I was so richly rich. *
                        Hello Konstantin, comrades! laughing
                      6. Catfish
                        Catfish 24 August 2020 18: 31 New
                        +4
                        Hello, Sergey! hi So the article is about sausage and lard. laughing
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 23 August 2020 19: 41 New
            +8
            Quote: antivirus
            1,5 packs a day Belomorkanal and at 75 years old death, lung cancer in his father
            do not smoke and suffer for 10 years more.
            Even 70, and even eighty years, only more and more .. and diseases ..

            Blessed memory of my father, but Belomorkanal is still high-quality tobacco, and 75 is higher than the average for the Russian Federation
  2. Victorio
    Victorio 23 August 2020 19: 14 New
    +4
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Cigarettes are below any criticism with what everything was interfered with - it is not clear.

    ===
    everything is clear there. tobacco and that's it. what it was then, and this went into production, from leaves to stems.
  3. avib
    avib 24 August 2020 14: 57 New
    +1
    You haven't caught the seventies and early eighties by age.
  4. d4rkmesa
    d4rkmesa 24 August 2020 18: 28 New
    +2
    Minus how much in vain. And my parents told me how heaps of multi-colored pesticides were piled near the field. Here is such a natural potato and beet there was, Bashkiria, 1967.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 24 August 2020 18: 38 New
      0
      People minus because I am ruining their tale of the beautiful USSR. Someone did not fit into the market economy, someone is nostalgic for youth, having so much old age, and someone dreams of the CCP's laurels - to become oligarchs with party membership cards, promising, instead of oligarchic totalitarian China, a return to the Soviet Union))
    2. Siberian54
      Siberian54 25 August 2020 04: 08 New
      +1
      Since there are heaps of multi-colored pesticides near the field, it means that the weather was bad and they were not sprayed on the fields and the harvest is really natural
  • kalibr
    23 August 2020 07: 41 New
    +5
    Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
    without any chemistry

    It's not all that simple. Watch at least the movie DIFFERENT FATE. There they show smoking factories as smoking and without filters. And where did the contents of their smoke go? At home I have a 50's gardening manual. There is a little INTO - sprinkle with DDT and hexachlorane ... Knowing how our people sprinkle a lot of everything, one should not be surprised that DDT was the number 1 product on our table. It was even found in the milk of lactating Uzbek women. In the West it has already been canceled, but in our country it was used with might and main. And you "without chemistry" without chemistry we have nowhere. Someday I'll tell you how chemical munitions were disposed of at the Dead Lake near Penza ...
    1. Hantengri
      Hantengri 23 August 2020 08: 04 New
      16
      Quote: kalibr
      DDT was the # 1 product on our table. It was even found in the milk of lactating Uzbek women.

      In this case, it was not DDT that was found, but defoliants. To give the Motherland 6 million tons of cotton, from 1,8 million hectares, with a normal yield of 2,6 tons per hectare (total 4,6-4,8 million tons) - this is not a sheep sneezed for you!
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 23 August 2020 08: 14 New
      +7
      Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich. Inspired by nostalgia)))).
    3. Igoresha
      Igoresha 23 August 2020 14: 10 New
      -2
      In the West, it has already been canceled,

      whales were also killed for nothing by Soviet whaling fleets
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 23 August 2020 19: 22 New
      +3
      and I read them, but ... I didn't do that! This is the inertial force of human thinking. So, when, contrary to the obvious here, on "VO", some say "haircut", when in fact "shaved", I am not at all surprised.

      THIS IS A TRANSITION FROM CASTLE RIGHT, ISOLATED LIFE (food is only local, it is own, natural household) TO CITY-CIVIL (but how better, how do others eat?) .. CAN TAKE 30-50 -100 YEARS. in PM and cuisine-food-culture of hostel-traditions of the people.
      may continue to change, it all depends on logistics, advertising preferences, etc.
  • Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 23 August 2020 08: 58 New
    16
    I spent all my life in the countryside, the products have always been our own, natural, or without chemicals, as they say now. The burenka helped out and her garden, there was no hope at all for the store. They bought there what they themselves could not produce, and the choice was very poor in comparison with the described one.
    But the price for their products was high.
    Coming home from work, you need to work at home for at least 3 more hours. Feed all the living creatures, and cook for tomorrow, because in the morning to work, weed the garden, etc. ...
    We could say that the second working day began at home.
  • iouris
    iouris 23 August 2020 11: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
    everything was real, the taste and smell of which I still remember.

    We won't need these memories anymore. It already costs so much money that "Mama, don't worry."
  • apro
    apro 23 August 2020 06: 21 New
    +5
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Popular genre now.

    The main thing here is how they serve ...
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 23 August 2020 06: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: apro
      The main thing here is how they serve ...

      We serve normally, not in the kind of Switzerland we live, all our own, intimate, is OURS)))
      1. apro
        apro 23 August 2020 07: 34 New
        +6
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Quote: apro
        The main thing here is how they serve ...

        We serve normally, not in the kind of Switzerland we live, all our own, intimate, is OURS)))

        And not with a smack of anti-Sovietism? Or is it to your taste?
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 08: 27 New
    +4
    And what kind of cabbage she brewed, it happened
    Mine too. In the oven. good
  • Varyag_0711
    Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 06: 17 New
    +9
    What did you expect from shpakovsky ?!
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 23 August 2020 07: 52 New
      +5
      Estessno, what else can a professional worker of the ideological front write about the USSR? He tried so hard, climbing to the top, comprehending Marxism-Leninism, and then it turned out that he had climbed the wrong place, now he moved to the writers.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 08: 35 New
      12
      Quote: apro
      Oh ... again, how bad we lived in the USSR. On the way to a brighter future, the communists forgot to spoon-feed the people?

      Quote: Varyag_0711
      What did you expect from shpakovsky ?!

      Slogans, Slogans, slogans, and what if in essence?
      Vyacheslav Olegovich mentions olive oil and crab meat, I never saw this on store shelves in my childhood !!!
      Conclusion Penza lived better than the Urals! At least more satisfying and varied! In the queues for sugar and bread, I stood “two rolls in one hand”, I saw coupons for “sausage”, however, as well as for “irons” and “freezers”, which were exchanged through the factory through barter.
      Did I starve? No, by the 90s, the parents kept 1 cow, 2 bulls, up to 3-4 piglets, broilers, turkeys, geese. There were bad experiences with rabbits and sheep!
      Plus 20 hectares of potatoes, 12 hectares of grassland!
      I'm fed up, but in the summer I didn't have time for summer camps, but there was eternal mowing, dragging water, etc. But in the fall, winter and spring, I went with the class and school on all the trips that were.
      Subsistence farming is cool, but in the 90s it was not a whim, a harsh necessity for survival!
      Today, how many of the young will be able to sweep a haystack or mow the grass with a Lithuanian! I know how to stir, warm, lay down and drag the roots, form a shock? Almost everyone is my age, only one is five years younger.
      I kindly remember the time of my childhood, but with its return, a good part of the "office plankton" will simply die of hunger !!!
      A real example! On "Zastavka" - this is the river that flooded in August. There is a mother of a city dweller and a daughter of three years old. The child sees a cow and tugs at his mother's sleeve "Ma is a chicken"? No, it's "It's a bull"! It seemed to me that even the cow was "amazed at such an indisputable statement"! When everyone laughed. The aunt resisted for another five minutes not accepting the difference between a bull and a cow that the last "udder" had!
      Well the last one! When the Union collapsed, I went to school, and what did you guys do?
      Or Shpakovsky is to blame for everything!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 08: 57 New
        +9
        Well the last one! When the Union collapsed, I went to school, and what did you guys do?
        Very correct question!
        I served urgently.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 09: 34 New
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          3x3zsave (Anton)
          I served urgently.
          I, too, from 91 to 93 in boots.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 August 2020 09: 54 New
            +4
            Thus, you and I have a wonderful alibi: it was not we who ruined the Union! Then who? Our parents?
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 10: 43 New
              +8
              Alibi or not, I don’t know, I know one thing if the commanders had the courage to give the order to disperse the demonstrators in Moscow, we would have carried it out. I was under demobilization in the fall of 93 in the Caucasus, they wanted to transfer us to Moscow, but the order was never received, and it’s a pity, you look, everything would have been different.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 August 2020 10: 52 New
                +8
                It wouldn't have been. The country passed the bifurcation point in 91st.
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 23 August 2020 16: 31 New
                +3
                During the GKChP coup, the streets of the capital were crowded with civilians. Would you shoot at a crowd that included women, old people and children?
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 17: 21 New
                  +3
                  Sea Cat (Constantine)
                  During the GKChP coup, the streets of the capital were crowded with civilians. Would you shoot at a crowd that included women, old people and children?
                  Don't ask idiotic questions.
                  We in Vladikavkaz blocked an armored personnel carrier in which there were three Ingush women, the crowd wanted their blood. Our guys did their duty and saved these women at the risk of their lives. Although, seeing what the Ingush were doing in Ossetian villages, many of us itched our hands to press the KPVT trigger or the AK-74 trigger.
                  As for the crowd in Moscow, they would have dispersed without the use of firearms, the PR-73 was enough.
                  And then, knowing now what those events led then, I can say with confidence, now I would shoot to kill, then I don’t know, but most likely I would have carried out the order.
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 23 August 2020 17: 43 New
                    +4
                    Moscow is not Vladikavkaz, and the Russians are not Ingush, did it ever occur to you that by staging a massacre in the capital, you would get the same thing at home? So about idiocy, better admire yourself in the mirror.
                    As for the crowd in Moscow, they would have dispersed without the use of firearms, the PR-73 was enough.

                    The events in Novocherkassk did not teach you anything, one random shot from any side and there and then heaps of corpses of unarmed people.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 23 August 2020 18: 14 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Moscow is not Vladikavkaz, and the Russians are not Ingush, did it ever occur to you that by staging a massacre in the capital, you would get the same thing at home? So about idiocy, better admire yourself in the mirror.
                      As for the crowd in Moscow, they would have dispersed without the use of firearms, the PR-73 was enough.

                      The events in Novocherkassk did not teach you anything, one random shot from any side and there and then heaps of corpses of unarmed people.

                      According to my childhood, at that time, feelings, the people of figs would give to return everything back - accelerate - do not accelerate, storming the White House or not storming))
                    2. Catfish
                      Catfish 23 August 2020 18: 22 New
                      +3
                      Quite right. If there were no serious reasons, adults would not have taken to the streets, there were enough other things to do, for example, to feed a family.
                    3. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 23 August 2020 18: 42 New
                      +5
                      Exactly!
                2. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 23 August 2020 18: 30 New
                  +8
                  These are not "idiotic" questions, but rather specific ones. Simply, someone served in "relatively" peacetime, and someone during the civil war. I know how the Grozny air defense brigade left Chechnya ...
            2. kalibr
              23 August 2020 20: 46 New
              -5
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              if the commanders had enough

              But these same "woulds" were not enough. And so in everything! A systemic crisis is called.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 23 August 2020 18: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Well the last one! When the Union collapsed, I went to school, and what did you guys do?
        Very correct question!
        I served urgently.

        Studied at school - Israeli drinks
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 23 August 2020 18: 55 New
          +8
          You know, Albert, I served in other troops, but we discussed the events of 91, between our call ... And the conclusion is this: if a burning rag flew to the triplex of a mechanic drive, shoot to kill is unambiguous!
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 23 August 2020 19: 03 New
            +1
            Yes, self-defense is understandable. The trick is different - the people did not want to return "with a song to live in struggle", the people wanted change. For so many reasons.
      3. rich
        rich 24 August 2020 01: 47 New
        +2
        3x3zsave (anton): in 1991 I served in an urgent service.

        Varyag_0711 (Alexey): I, too, from 91 to 93 in boots.

        During the August 1991 putsch, I was returning from vacation to work. Naturally through Moscow. In Domodedovo, the girl-warrant officer of the PC called me back to the office of the chief of the PC, and there the major with a tortured face recommended changing into civilian clothes. - "Look what is happening in Moscow now. God knows what. There is no clarity, no instructions - deathly silence. If you want call from here to the place so that there you will be met at the airport ".... It was, it was
    3. apro
      apro 23 August 2020 09: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Or Shpakovsky is to blame for everything!

      Where did you get it? But in his opuses, attention is always focused on the inferiority of the USSR. That did not give. That prohibited. There is no objectivity. The country lived and developed in the conditions that were at that time. And with those capabilities and technical and resource. But he I didn't notice ...
    4. Kwas
      Kwas 23 August 2020 19: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Well the last one! When the Union collapsed, I went to school, and what did you guys do?

      I worked in KB, the first year. And alas, he understood the meaning of what was happening extremely badly.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 20: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Kwas
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Well the last one! When the Union collapsed, I went to school, and what did you guys do?

        I worked in KB, the first year. And alas, he understood the meaning of what was happening extremely badly.

        Few then, who either understood anything. Especially in the periphery.
    5. hohol95
      hohol95 23 August 2020 23: 39 New
      +2
      Finished school. 1993 year. In 1997, they took 6 acres! There was no village!
      At that time, these hundred square meters helped. But the forces were pulling too. Without a car. In the hands of the harvest and kicking to the bus stop about 2 km.
      And there were coupons with "Gorby" - vegetable oil, sugar, smoke, alcohol.
      There were problems with soap. And the problems with simple student notebooks began in the late 80s! We stored simple notebooks for future use!
  • bk0010
    bk0010 23 August 2020 10: 48 New
    +7
    Quote: apro
    Did the communists forget to spoon-feed the people on their way to a brighter future?
    Yes exactly. It was they who closed all aspects of the country's life, it was they who forced to say the mantra "... thanks to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and personally ..."
    1. apro
      apro 23 August 2020 11: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: bk0010
      they forced them to the place and not to say the mantra "... thanks to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and personally ...", respectively, and responsibility for the mess and supply problems lay with them.

      And they also built, produced, studied, promoted science, forced to study, heal and work ... not everything was smooth ... I do not argue. But the prospect was. Was a real improvement in the life of the Soviet people.
  • Varyag_0711
    Varyag_0711 23 August 2020 06: 15 New
    13
    And the situation, at least in our country in Penza, was getting worse and worse until 1985, when with the coming to power of M. Gorbachev appeared, no, not food, but at least hope for improvement.
    negative You will recognize the author unmistakably ...
    Hopes appeared fool ... With the tagged bear, we lost not only hopes, we lost a country with natural products, where milk was, you will not believe it - FROM MILK, an ice cream from cream, cream again from milk, etc. In our city with a population of about 50 thousand inhabitants, there were TWO city-forming factories, a dairy, a food processing plant, an elevator, a meat processing plant, a children's kitchen and much more.
    And with the coming to power of the tagged freak, all this went to dust. The aluminum plant under the USSR employed 15 thousand people, and products were made for the space and nuclear industries. And now there won't even be 1,5 people there, and even another reduction by 300 people is coming, and instead of long-length products for airplanes, there will be aluminum dishes, which no one needs for nothing behind the barn.

    MaladEts the author, he has good "hopes" ...
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 23 August 2020 06: 48 New
      13
      Varyag_0711 (Alexey)
      MaladEts the author, he has good "hopes" ...
      That's right, queues appeared under Gorbachev, and it was under him that there was a deficit for everything. Moreover, the deficit was clearly artificial.
      I remember how a distant relative from Ukraine comes to visit us. Brings goodies, like you are poverty here in Russia. Mom takes her sausage to cut on the table, and on the label is the nameplate of our factory.
      That is, our sausage was transported to Ukraine, to Georgia, in general, anywhere, but not to us. This is how they lived, they fed all these parasites from the Baltic to Central Asia.
      1. kalibr
        23 August 2020 07: 31 New
        +9
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        That's how they lived, they fed everyone from the Baltics to Central Asia.

        This will be the next article, Diana
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 23 August 2020 08: 11 New
        +8
        Like that, yes, of course, they fed, but why were we such stupid economists? silk, cotton, wool, came from Central Asia, and this is a strategic raw material, and it was impossible to take it somewhere. Well, on sausages, I don't seem to remember the labels.
        1. Hantengri
          Hantengri 23 August 2020 08: 37 New
          13
          Quote: Free Wind
          silk, cotton, wool, came from Central Asia,

          In addition, from there went: gold, silver, uranium, copper, lithium, tungsten, bismuth, aluminum. etc. Parasites, in general! They ate everyone, giving nothing in return!
        2. Shiden
          Shiden 23 August 2020 11: 27 New
          +2
          You cannot prove Alexander with this comment simply by the fact that the Russians are being hammered into the head of the thesis that Russia did not live well under the USSR because it saw everyone feeding. And the fact that in Uzbekistan children for one kg of cotton picked by hand after a combine, only 10 kopecks in October It’s a trifle to sit at the desks. And what are they freeloaders, because no one counts how much currency children’s hands have saved.
          1. Hantengri
            Hantengri 23 August 2020 11: 48 New
            11
            Quote: Shiden
            In Uzbekistan, children for one kg of cotton picked by hand after a combine, 10 kopecks each in October, only sat at school desks this is a trifle

            Selection - 7 kopecks / kg, as far as I remember, 10 kopecks / kg is for pure cotton, completely hand-assembled. Students were also driven, annually. 1,5-2 months of the 1st semester - down the drain.
            1. Shiden
              Shiden 23 August 2020 14: 41 New
              +4
              I only learned this in the army when I served with the Uzbeks, and so many did not even know. After that, I do not think that the republics in the USSR were freeloaders. And when I read comments where people from the former republics are labeled as freeloaders, then anger sneaks through me that the Russians have been so brainwashed that they categorically do not want to think.
              1. Alex_1973
                Alex_1973 23 August 2020 15: 28 New
                +4
                Shiden (Vitaly)
                I only learned this in the army when I served with the Uzbeks, and so many did not even know. After that, I do not think that the republics in the USSR were freeloaders.
                And you look at the statistics who and how much consumed and who and how much gave. Donors were only the RSFSR and the BSSR, the rest mostly only consumed, this primarily concerned the entire Baltic region, Georgia, Armenia and Uzbekistan.
                1. Hantengri
                  Hantengri 23 August 2020 15: 58 New
                  +5
                  Can you source the numbers? Those. the document from which they are taken.
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              2. Hantengri
                Hantengri 23 August 2020 15: 45 New
                +6
                Quote: Shiden
                And when I read comments where people from the former republics are labeled as freeloaders, then anger sneaks through me that the Russians have been so brainwashed that they categorically do not want to think.

                This is mostly former. union republics so. The population is taught that due to the robbery of resources, it was them (insert the name) that the SSR fed the rest of the Union. At the same time, as evidence, convincing, at first glance, figures and graphs of vague etymology are given. Some people believe. Divide et impera !, in one word.
              3. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 23 August 2020 18: 19 New
                +9
                Quote: Shiden
                I only learned this in the army when I served with the Uzbeks, and so many did not even know. After that, I do not think that the republics in the USSR were freeloaders. And when I read comments where people from the former republics are labeled as freeloaders, then anger sneaks through me that the Russians have been so brainwashed that they categorically do not want to think.

                There was also a reverse process - we are feeding Russia. Moreover, it was during the Union. After the collapse of the USSR, when nursing workers rushed to the Russian Federation as guest workers, everything fell into place. hi
              4. rich
                rich 23 August 2020 21: 03 New
                +6
                I remember how a distant relative from Ukraine comes to visit us. Brings goodies, like you are poverty here in Russia. Mom takes her sausage to cut on the table, and on the label is the nameplate of our factory.

                It's okay. It was inter-union integration. I want something else.
                I lived in Ivanovo until the 5th grade. So, having the largest complex in the USSR "Borovoe" Ivanovites traveled to Moscow for their famous "Doctor's" sausage. And only in Moscow they could buy their famous "Bird's milk" sweets and the no less famous Shuya tincture "Rowan on cognac". And if you are very lucky, then both "Shuisky balsam" and 40% fat sour cream "Lyubitelskaya" of the Ivanovo milk processing plant in paper briquettes like cottage cheese
            2. Kwas
              Kwas 23 August 2020 21: 09 New
              +4
              And also a progressive scale, starting at 60 kg per day. The bourgeoisie would call it "sweatshop".
              1. Hantengri
                Hantengri 23 August 2020 21: 17 New
                +5
                I have never collected more than 40. It was possible, of course, to throw stones in an apron ... And also, you can - a lump of saltpeter and wet it, slightly ... The effect is amazing! With Comrade Stalin would have been shot, without further ado, as a pest and saboteur. lol
      3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 08: 39 New
        +5
        Hell knows! We have had it before !!! When Gorbachev was added for vodka !!!
        And so today, in the summer, you can face a seasonal lack of sugar or table salt during the harvesting season! But this is due to the sluggishness and inertia of chain store managers.
        And Nadezhda was, I remember when I was little I watched the program "Perestroika Searchlight."
      4. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 23 August 2020 14: 08 New
        0
        Diana, hello! hi ! Did you know that in the Voronezh region there is a company that produces wonderful gingerbread cookies, cookies, well, just like cakes, as well as crackers good
        There is much more, I haven't tried everything yet. Bright yellow packaging. I advise everyone! laughing
      5. Igoresha
        Igoresha 23 August 2020 14: 32 New
        +2
        and on the label is the nameplate of our plant.
        Yes, it's interesting, in every regional center there is meat -, - dairy factories and there are no products, I think the army ate everything and cities of the 1st category of support, such as Lugansk / Donetsk, where it was better than in Kharkov. And in Kharkov it was better than in Belgorod
    2. kalibr
      23 August 2020 07: 36 New
      +9
      Quote: Varyag_0711
      MaladEts the author, he has good "hopes" ...

      All the same, Alexey, it is sad that people on VO read, but ... do not read. And they don't want to think about what they have read. I didn't have any particular hopes. But PEOPLE ... Do you know how our PEOPLE liked him at the very beginning ?! "As he says! He explains everything clearly ... Young, ah-ah." But what can I say: my mother, Ph.D. associate professor, a seemingly smart woman admired him. "As he says!" I told her: "Mom, he hasn't done anything yet. But talking ... not working!" No, no, he will ... When he did, she began to revile him with the last words. I told her: well, now he did ... Yes, yes, but as he said!
      All as the poet said: "Oh, it is not difficult to deceive me, I myself am glad to be deceived!"
    3. bubalik
      bubalik 23 August 2020 13: 29 New
      +3
      ,,, with natural products, where milk was, you will not believe - FROM MILK,

      ,,, recent news what
      - The check showed that the enterprise made 12 tons of butter from 20 kg of milk. And then from 6 kg of milk they produced 60 thousand kg of butter. Another example: from 1 kg of milk, two types of cheese with a total weight of over 44 tons were made, - said the press service of the Rosselkhoznadzor Administration in the Samara region. belay request
      1. d4rkmesa
        d4rkmesa 24 August 2020 18: 35 New
        +2
        Most likely, someone incorrectly set up the integration program with Vetis (converting liters into kilograms is not as trivial as it might turn out to be), or they put a person who, in principle, did not understand what he was doing, to manually draw up the VSD. It is unlikely that the original criminal plan was what they were happily caught and slapped. This is practically the suicide of the enterprise. And, there is one more thing, the buyers flapped and didn't really see what they had in the incoming VSD, they stupidly accepted everything. Those. extinguished 5 kg of incoming milk and issued in fact how much came. And for this now they twist eggs.
    4. Victorio
      Victorio 23 August 2020 20: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Varyag_0711
      And with the coming to power of the tagged freak, all this went to dust

      ===
      deadline 80-82. you are probably right, finishing off the country began with Gorbachev. but he would have saved another Gorbachev country, or prolonged its existence - this is a question without an answer.
    5. Kwas
      Kwas 23 August 2020 20: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: Varyag_0711

      MaladEts the author, he has good "hopes" ..

      And then many hopes appeared. Anyone who could think a little understood that the country needed reforms. And Gorbach made it clear that there would be reforms. Few understood that these would be reforms "in the wrong direction". And many, yes, they wanted to capitalism, having heard enough "voices". Including me, I repent!
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  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 23 August 2020 06: 39 New
    +5
    What day is today? In the section "Opinions" they announce a feuilleton for "Military Crocodile", and in the section "History" - "About tasty and healthy food."
  • mark1
    mark1 23 August 2020 06: 46 New
    +9
    [quote] [Only from our family five people stood in line, and if they were "given" two packs of butter, then ... we bought 10 of them and immediately ran back to the back of the line for a new batch. Sometimes I managed to get the butter a second time! / Quote]
    Your family was no stranger to sporting excitement (achieving the maximum result at any cost) However, many were ill with this in those years, my friend still recalls how his mother was tormented every day by running around all the shops in the morning and clogging the refrigerator with all kinds of deficiencies of that time, and then a lot of this went to the trash, tk. the family did not have enough human strength to use all this in time.
    1. kalibr
      23 August 2020 07: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: mark1
      all kinds of then deficits

      That is, there were deficits? And it's not a matter of excitement, just figure it out ... Better to stand in line once and stock up than to stand in it every day and buy exactly as much as necessary.
      1. mark1
        mark1 23 August 2020 08: 19 New
        +6
        Of course there were, only a person who did not live in the USSR at that time or who was supplied from the regional committee distributor can deny this. However, the increased excitement flowing into wild excitement pretty much aggravated the situation. Of course, reserves are needed, but there is a measure for everything. Nature endowed almost all earthly organisms with a sense of proportion, and in some cases we got a conveyor belt for transferring sausages from a bag to a refrigerator - from a refrigerator to a trash heap.
      2. Kwas
        Kwas 23 August 2020 20: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: kalibr
        That is, there were deficits?

        The most interesting thing is that, yes, there were deficits. And, as far as I know, everyone. Many of their supplies then ate, drank, wore for many years ...
        That is, there was a shortage with a sufficient amount of products.
    2. rich
      rich 23 August 2020 22: 29 New
      +2
      Only from our family, five people stood in line
      .
      Both my grandfather and grandmother were blind. I always took my grandfather to the store. And no matter what the queue was, he and I were always passed out of line. IS ALWAYS! The mentality of the Soviet people was completely different ... Better than now, unfortunately
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 06: 59 New
    -3
    fool
    when M. Gorbachev came to power, there appeared, no, not food, but at least hope for improvement.
    fool fool fool Good to lie that.
    "600 Seconds" is a television information and analytical program, aired in 1987-1993, the presenter - most often Alexander Nevzorov. The show had a high viewer rating and became one of the symbols of Perestroika. The program has repeatedly shown rotting food - both vegetables and animals - and these shots, during a time of widespread food shortages, caused both disgust and outrage against the authorities who allowed it.
    "Durik, why did you shave off your mustache?" fool
    1. kalibr
      23 August 2020 07: 27 New
      +2
      Mauritius! Why "lie"? "Lying" is low. Gorbachev became General Secretary in April and the negative phenomena associated with him did not begin the next day, right? And many at that time really said: Well, here comes a young, active person. The consideration is available to your mind that NOT IMMEDIATELY. You have 600 seconds years too ... not since 1985, have you. And many expected a change for the better from him for a long time. But expecting and receiving are different things.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 08: 55 New
        +1
        repeat
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        It's good to lie

        Quote: kalibr
        Gorbachev became secretary general in April and the negative phenomena associated with him did not begin the next day,
        General Secretary March 11, 1985 - August 24, 1991. "600 seconds" program, aired in 1987-1993. The program came out, and Gorbachev had been "hunchbacked" for 2 years.
        1. VIKI is modest, they showed more than once, tons of sausage, meat, chickens rotting in forests and meat-packing plants, I remember.
        2. We always think from the point of view of common sense. The first person in the state should be committed to strengthening his power, his authority, prosperity and stability in the country. But no, this was the task of crashing the country. To do this, you need to create dissatisfaction with the present day, the government, shake the situation in the country, "wake up the masses." More precisely, which is surprising and contradictory, to make them indifferent.
        3.
        when M. Gorbachev came to power, there appeared, no, not food, but at least hope for improvement.
        Good to lie. Before Gorbachev, food was available, although not in abundance. And I wanted more. But we got the cutting down of vineyards across the country, the closure of tobacco factories, fires at elevators, endless coupons.
        negative phenomena did not begin the next day, did they?
        Yes, not right away, in six months, a year, is it easier for you? He was a bastard and will die like a bastard. angry
        1. kalibr
          23 August 2020 17: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Yes, not right away, in six months, a year, is it easier for you? He was a bastard and will die like a bastard.

          That is, not immediately. Therefore, I wrote that many had hope that it would be better. And all people of my age who lived at that time will confirm this to you. Explained easily? The end of your phrase has nothing to do with their opinion, does it?
        2. Kwas
          Kwas 23 August 2020 20: 28 New
          +5
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          negative phenomena did not begin the next day, did they?
          Yes, not right away, in six months, a year, is it easier for you? He was a bastard and will die like a bastard. angry

          Our people tolerate "negative phenomena". Again, the eternal formula "the king is good - the boyars are bad." In addition, everyone understands that the restructuring of the economy must necessarily cause a temporary deterioration. And to understand in the root, and even immediately, not everyone is given. If you understood right away, I envy.
          1. kalibr
            23 August 2020 20: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Kwas
            If you understood right away, I envy.

            No, I just didn't get it. I carried out the policy of the CPSU to the masses. He explained what a "lesson of truth" is, then the goals and objectives of perestroika. I just didn’t like that my mother admired words. In my opinion, it was necessary to wait to see what they would result in. That's all! Then, already in graduate school, my boss explained to me after the 18th conference that there is no alternative - either a nuclear war or we capitulate to the West. The latter is selected, hurry up with protection. But again, how will it all be when ... We were told that 1995 would be a difficult year. There are no resources, no birth rate, and a "second echo". But ... I thought that the party would find a way out. But I didn't find it ...
          2. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 21: 07 New
            0
            Quote: Kwas
            And to understand in the root, and even immediately, not everyone is given. If you understood right away, I envy.

            I think there were few of them, I am not one of them. request
        3. kalibr
          24 August 2020 10: 01 New
          +2
          Oh, by the way, Mavrik, a connoisseur with the letter "good". Didn't you recently write this: Nonsense. We didn't make sabers for the Cossacks! The presented saber is most likely of the "hussar" model. Well, she could well get to the Cossacks. The Cossack saber has a guard in the form of a cross. "More, I would like to", CIN. feelBy the way, this particular saber in the engraving below ...
          So before you write, think that not all of your knowledge is taken from your head, as you are. They made sabers for the Cossacks. And just the same as in the picture. Here is a photo from the Hermitage collection. And a description. Let's start with him: Cossack saber with scabbard
          Place of origin / school
          Russia, Tula
          Dating
          1760-1770
          Material, technique
          1) Steel, wood, copper; forging, chasing, engraving, casting, gilding, carving; 2) Wood, pet leather, copper alloy; chasing, casting, gilding
          Size
          1) Length: 104cm; blade length: 89 cm; 2) Scabbard: 92,5cm
          Inventory number
          ZO-6905

          The similarity with the pattern is evident and, above all, the characteristic handle, which aroused particular indignation among "experts". True, the year in the figure is later. But it was drawn from the Art. museum.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 23 August 2020 07: 03 New
    +8
    And I'm on the topic. Just about my student years. It was then that my friends and I had a tradition, every Saturday evening in a friendly company to go to the cinema in the historic part of the city. In our unit, there was also a cinema and other recreation centers, but driving through the whole city is more interesting, isn't it?)) So, we threw off exactly one ruble. This was enough for travel, for movie tickets, a pack of cigarettes for everyone, and for dumplings in an institution called, of course, "Pelmennaya". But the student canteen was also not remembered.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 23 August 2020 07: 56 New
      +6
      A bus ticket is 5 kopecks. A plate of dumplings 25-30 kopecks. A ticket to the cinema was 30-50 kopecks, there were 50% discount on the student ticket, but not everywhere, and not for Angelica. Although watching films about the war in the panoramic cinema is much more interesting.
      1. Van 16
        Van 16 23 August 2020 08: 37 New
        +3
        More cigarettes. We then took Morshansk Cosmos, one for all, if I'm not mistaken -70 kopecks. By the way, sometimes they ran into more serious places, such as the Friendship or Harvest cafe, but there you definitely can't get by with a ruble, and there usually - "there is a crowd of people at the door of the establishment, trampling and steam, but the crowd does not matter, the doorman is behind the doors."
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 23 August 2020 09: 58 New
          +2
          That's about Morshansk t / f do not need ...., smoke rubbish, in a pack of ,, Prima '' 17-18 cigarettes (written 20).
          May / November study by Moore
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 23 August 2020 15: 02 New
            +3
            Seems to be untrue. You carefully open the pack, take out a couple of cigarettes, seal it, and hit it with your fist. In appearance, everything is fine, but there are not enough cigarettes. This was not done in factories, it was already folk craftsmen, so to speak, improvised.
            1. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 23 August 2020 15: 10 New
              +1
              Perhaps you are right ...
              But the Morshansk prima was such disgusting ...
              1. Free wind
                Free wind 23 August 2020 15: 19 New
                +1
                We had such a gradation of Prima, pontovoy, semi-pontovoy and bespontovaya, In pontovoy, white paper with blue stripes, quite tasty. Semi-pont, just white paper. And pontovoy, tbiltabak, wrapped in toilet paper. One puff, one match, taste and smell like out of a toilet.
                1. Mavrikiy
                  Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 18: 07 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Free Wind
                  And pontovoy, tbiltabak, wrapped in toilet paper. One puff, one match, taste and smell like out of a toilet.

                  Nodar Dumbadze wrote very curiously about this in his 1978 "Law of Eternity" (they say the fight against smoking)
          2. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 18: 03 New
            +2
            I will accept Morshansk TV / f I don't know. Once I came across the Klaipeda Prima - a fairy tale. You smoke, and your mouth tastes like gnawed bird cherry seeds. Exhaustion - special, smoked - swallowed tongue. Product and quality. repeat
            1. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 23 August 2020 18: 10 New
              +2
              Quote: Mavrikiy
              I will accept Morshansk TV / f I don't know. Once I came across the Klaipeda Prima - a fairy tale. You smoke, and your mouth tastes like gnawed bird cherry seeds. Exhaustion - special, smoked - swallowed tongue. Product and quality. repeat

              Unfortunately the recipe was forgotten and lost .... cool cigarettes ... were.
            2. rich
              rich 23 August 2020 22: 48 New
              +6
              Klaipeda Prima is a fairy tale.

              And what about the Almaty "Prima" with the "sun"? Those who served in Central Asia will probably remember her. I even sent her with an urgent one to my grandfather in the Stavropol Territory. High quality cigarettes
      2. kalibr
        23 August 2020 20: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: Free Wind
        A bus ticket is 5 kopecks.

        Isn't it 6? We had 6 in Penza!
        1. rich
          rich 24 August 2020 00: 46 New
          +4
          Not. everywhere there was 5 kopecks. Even in Gorky, where the distance between stops was greater than in other cities of the USSR
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 24 August 2020 06: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Rich
            Not. everywhere there was 5 kopecks. Even in Gorky

            But no. There is also a 6 kopeck bus in Chelyabinsk. 5 kopecks trolleybus, well, trombike, then everywhere 3 k. It seems in Kuibyshev there was a patch, well, it seemed very wild.
            Opensource projects, eh, earlier they rarely traveled to other cities in childhood. For the first time I came to Sverdlovsk at the age of 25, and the distance is only 200 km.
          2. kalibr
            24 August 2020 07: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: Rich
            Not. everywhere there was 5 kopecks. Even in Gorky, where the distance between stops was greater than in other cities of the USSR

            I remember exactly that 6! But in the trolleybus - 5.
            1. BAI
              BAI 24 August 2020 09: 34 New
              +2
              Bus 5 kopecks. Tram -4.
              1. kalibr
                24 August 2020 09: 48 New
                0
                We had 6 ... But there was no tram in Penza.
                1. hohol95
                  hohol95 24 August 2020 22: 28 New
                  0
                  In Lipetsk, the bus and trolleybus are 5 kopecks, and the tram is 3 kopecks.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 07: 56 New
      13
      When the school came to the circus or the Central Park of Culture and Leisure, the bus for lunch always brought them to one dumplings on the street. On March 8, naturally, we were fed dumplings there. The whole class got up in line, which, figuratively speaking, moved in jerks when a 20-liter pan with dumplings was ready! To speed up the process of our meals, the classroom shouted in advance from the end of the line to all of us with meat, so we only had to choose the sauce: with vinegar, sour cream, mayonnaise or then outlandish tomato sauce !!! We were served by a real Soviet "cook", a healthy, ruddy aunt, I even remember her name "Aunt - Masha"! Throwing a hefty ladle of dumplings into our plates, she managed to ask everyone with a joke and a joke about a hippo, carousel or clowns! Punish the bus driver to take us home carefully, to discuss with the teachers how hard it is with us "oglo-eaters"! And I do not remember that she used the scales that were lonely at the checkout. With a firm hand, throwing a pile of dumplings with a ladle, she asked, "behaved well." "Well, not really, you sighed, glancing sideways at the classroom." She threw you five dumplings from the top. She stated “for future good behavior”. You squeezed out "thank you" and flew to beat off a chair! It was always crowded, two brothers sat noisily on the same chair, but somehow kindly!
      Years later, I stuck to this dumplings, now a good cafe. But some kind of refined, faceless. I ordered a business lunch, in principle, not bad. When I was paying at the bar, I complained about that old Soviet dumplings.
      The bartender broke an eyebrow in amazement, asked with a smile "behind the wheel"? I'm no less surprised. He smiled, “wait a minute,” He took it out of the bar - he poured a bottle of whiskey into two glasses for himself and me “at the expense of the establishment, although there is no“ top five ”, and imitating the voice of a cook from childhood“ Edik is again a three in mathematics, okay on top - five, but don't come without a B in Russian ”! We laughed!
      1. rich
        rich 24 August 2020 02: 14 New
        +3
        When I was paying at the bar, I complained about that old Soviet dumplings.

        Vladislav, I lived in Ivanovo until I was 12. Not far from our house at the intersection of Lenin Avenue and st. The post office was also "Pelmennaya", but we did not go there for dumplings, but for ice cream with syrup and fabulous meat pies. A two-hand-sized pie and a large cup of aromatic hot broth cost only 15 kopecks. Here I am writing, I remembered and drooling. smile
      2. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 10: 22 New
        +7
        To speed up the process of our meals, the classroom shouted in advance from the end of the line to all of us with meat, so we only had to choose a sauce: with vinegar, sour cream, mayonnaise or then outlandish tomato sauce !!!

        I wanted to eat ... what Vladislav, it's delicious to read your comment! drinks
    3. BAI
      BAI 23 August 2020 17: 25 New
      +3
      the student canteen was also not remembered.

      And I remember well. We had a hefty 2 storey complex. 1st hall (with the proud name "Effect") - lunch on discounted coupons, 35 kopecks, quality - so-so (this hall was used mainly by students of the 1st or 2nd year). Complex, no choice. 2nd hall - student, lunch of your choice, 60 kopecks, 3rd hall - Diet, entrance with passes from the clinic, a varied menu, exceptional quality, price 70-80 kopecks. 4th hall - teaching, 5th hall - professor. I have never been to these 2 halls, I can not say anything about them.
      You could also go to Cheburechnaya, across the road. 2 pasties 35 kopecks And there were enough of them, very tasty, there was always a queue of 10 people. Or in the Campus - an ordinary canteen, lunch of 60-80 kopecks.
      Years: 1981-1987.
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 23 August 2020 23: 03 New
        +4
        Our student canteen bore the name "Buchenwald", the food was disgusting little to say .... brrrrrr .... but there was a house kitchen near the hostel, it was a bomb! I still remember them
  • Free wind
    Free wind 23 August 2020 07: 30 New
    12
    To tell the truth, many did not know how to cook, to eat, and all right. In practice, in the shared kitchen, I began to fry, so the women looked at me in bewilderment. Dumplings in broth are not tasty, better with sour cream. They made dumplings soup, boiled potatoes and added dumplings there, it turned out fatly. Many of them made their own preparations for the winter, then the jam went to the bragulka. Armavir sausage, semi-smoked, was not thick. Grandfather's advice. about a selection of your wife, you need to write down in a notebook, and then suddenly with what point you fly, you must chew carefully, but how to check, give her a gingerbread, and then look into her mouth, watch how she chews. Something anecdote remembered, there is madam, very magnificent forms. and behind her a man shouted, oh, and your teeth are good. Oh, how did you know. And with shitty teeth, you can't get rid of such a penny. Green tomatoes in trays marinated could not lie, they are just green, the housewives took, and waited when they turn red. There were pickles in wooden barrels, the men took them for a snack, they say they were delicious. Well, about the cook-housewife. A plump madame comes to a nutritionist, complains, she doesn't eat anything, but she's getting fat. How so, the doctor is surprised. Well, doctor, I just finish eating, for my husband, for my son. Doctor, well, get a piglet. Doctor and eat the pig?
  • mr.ZinGer
    mr.ZinGer 23 August 2020 07: 48 New
    +4
    1. rich
      rich 23 August 2020 23: 08 New
      +6
      Arkady Severny - "I fell in love with Nastya"

      Ivanovets was Arkady Dmitrievich. Real Surname - Zvezdin. A pseudonym from the Ivanovo airfield "Severny" By the way, our colleague is a military navigator-helicopter pilot. He served near Leningrad.

      a photo... monument in Ivanovo to A.D. Severny
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 08: 02 New
    +5
    The very first thing we thought of doing at home after the wedding was student toast. A lot of young people came to visit us. What to treat? But what: chunks of dry loaf under the tap with water, soak on both sides, sprinkle abundantly with sugar and fry in oil until the sugar begins to melt. But so as not to burn! Then you can send it with cinnamon. And serve with coffee. "Dish of quick response"!


    We called it slices! They were made in many ways, although they were popular with whipped milk and eggs in butter! The minimum of any Soviet kid of my age !!!
    Vyacheslav Olegovich - thank you!
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 23 August 2020 08: 08 New
    +9
    The author described the situation with food products in those years quite correctly. It should only be taken into account that it was the best in the capitals of the union republics. The supply of the regional centers was then already very uneven and clearly varied. There were also poor cities. I don't even put this word in quotes. It was not for nothing that the expression appeared in 1975: "Somehow God sent a piece of cheese to Voronezh ..."
    Personal: I don't feel nostalgia for food and food preferences of those times.
    In my memory, the queues began to appear in 1985, reaching a peak in 1988-89. Coupons for food in the housing offices at the place of registration appeared at the same time. Apparently, the author will tell you more about this.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 18: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In my memory, the queues began to appear in 1985, reaching a peak in 1988-89. Coupons for food in the housing offices at the place of registration appeared at the same time. Apparently, the author will tell you more about this.
      Required. And he will say that it is the USSR, the Communist Party and the Communists are to blame. fool But he won't remember that the former communist himself is defrocked.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 23 August 2020 20: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Required. And he will say that it is the USSR, the Communist Party and the Communists are to blame. But he won't remember that the former communist himself is defrocked.

        Although, it is possible and necessary to blame, probably, the CPSU. Well, it was not the Zionists who introduced Israeli food stamps. Communists were at all key posts, and they have to be fired upon.
        Believe it or not, it doesn't hurt me for a long time. Then, I was about thirty, and today, already closer to seventy than to sixty. During this time, queues have long been forgotten, there is a shortage of everything and everyone, the effemisms "got out", "thrown out", by acquaintance pants and shoes, by pulling a stick of sausage and a piece of meat with an overpayment ..
        . "Let us renounce the old world: Shake off its dust from our feet!" All. Other times, other concerns and aspirations. No need to look back, nothing has changed there.
        Health to all. God bless you!
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 23 August 2020 21: 01 New
          -2
          hi - Yes, I do not agree.
          - With whom?
          - With both.
          - In what?
          - Yes, take everything and divide. And then they will divorce boo-boo ... hi As a joke.
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Then, I was about thirty, and today, already closer to seventy than to sixty.
          So you remember and understand the difference between the communists Khrushchev and Brezhnev, not to mention the Gorbachev fosterlings? Meaning with key posts. And if the Khrushchevs, these are still the former Stalinist people's commissars 50/50, and by inertia until 1956 there was a country and there was an economy, then after that, valentarism began. I remember Khrushchev's grain shortage of bread in the winter of 63, lists of families, notebooks in the bakery, crosses and paintings, these were practically cards, but they were not there! Taxes, corn, dispersal of cooperatives and artisans.
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Communists were at all key posts, and they have to be fired upon.

          So what does the communists have to do with it if a Trotskyist and a hater of Stalin came to power? Who fundamentally ruined all his undertakings? hi
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 23 August 2020 22: 02 New
            0
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            So you remember and understand the difference

            I remember well and understand perfectly. Only a "Trotskyist" is not a curse word. And he was never a Trotskyist.
            It was not he who organized the queues for butter and he did not introduce the coupons. This is entirely the merit of the local authorities.
            The one who came to power, as you say, to destroy, began by destroying the "prison of peoples". Without this, one and a half hundred million would have sat under the protection of karatsup.

            Tell me, it never occurred to you to ask what this "Trotskyism" really is. Why he had unexpectedly many followers in the world, why interest in this teaching has not dried up to this day. Why was Joseph Vissarionovich so afraid of this man (and he was not alone, to be honest), why he hunted him for more than 10 years. It would be good for this to take some kind of scientific literature, and not online opuses about the bastard - Leiba Trotsky and look with a sober eye. hi
            1. rich
              rich 24 August 2020 02: 53 New
              +5
              The one who came to power, as you say, to destroy, began by destroying the "prison of peoples". Without this, one and a half hundred million would have sat under the protection of karatsup

              To be honest, it jarred.
              Any country in the world, including your Israel, would be proud of such, as you write "karatsupami". I am sure the Israeli border guards would not have said so humiliatingly about him

              Nikita Fedorovich Karatsupa - Hero of the Soviet Union, colonel of the border troops. A great specialist and authority in protecting the state border. The legend is not only Soviet PV. Member of the Great Patriotic War. He was wounded three times. For 20 years of service in the border troops, he detained 338 border violators and killed 129 spies and saboteurs. Vietnam, where in 1957-1961 he was an Advisor on the formation of the border troops, considers him the founder of its own military
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 24 August 2020 09: 22 New
                0
                Quote: Rich
                Any country in the world would be proud of such, as you write "karatsupami"

                In 1962, I myself went to the circle of young friends of border guards. So, since childhood, I know very well who Nikita Fedorovich Karatsupa and his dog Ingus (nee Indus) were and how they remarkably guarded the state borders of the USSR. But my childhood passed and I wondered from whom they were protecting those very borders.
                I cannot deny the likelihood of the existence of real spies and saboteurs detained by border guards. However, it turned out that among the "338 border violators and 129 killed" the absolute majority were not spies and saboteurs, but people who wanted to leave the World's Best State of Victory Socialism.
                The wording was standard: "Detained while attempting to illegally cross the USSR State Border," which was the purest truth. Pages of investigative actions were specially removed from the court cases of those years, and it was not clear in which direction the offender was going. The very article of the Criminal Code for this presupposed a rather severe punishment, but the article "Espionage" was an obligatory addition to it. Depending on the terrain, the offender was appointed a Polish, Romanian, Japanese, and so on, a spy. And if in the things of the violator, God forbid, a knife was found, even a penknife, the detainee immediately turned into a saboteur, and the following article came to this trailer ...
                So, my dear Dmitry, please temper your righteous anger, and at your leisure, think about why the disadvantaged proletarians and peasants from the capitalist countries were not eager in droves for permanent residence in the USSR. hi
                1. rich
                  rich 24 August 2020 09: 54 New
                  +4
                  However, it turned out that among the "338 border violators and 129 killed" the absolute majority were not spies and saboteurs, but people who wanted to leave the World's Best State of Victory Socialism.

                  how Sylvester loves to write - Facts in the studio! . verbatim statements are not accepted.
                  So, my dear Dmitry, please temper your righteous anger, and at your leisure, think about why the disadvantaged proletarians and peasants from the capitalist countries were not eager in droves for permanent residence in the USSR.

                  And why are disadvantaged proletarians and peasants from neighboring countries not rushing in droves to permanent residence in Israel?
                  But I'm not talking about that. You have deviated from the topic. I was jarred by your sarcastic expression "karatsupy". Not beautiful. After all, it would never occur to anyone to disparagingly call Israeli border guards honestly performing their duty "Noimans" or "Ebsteins" Because we know that both Dan Neumann and Amir Ebstein are good specialists in protecting the state border and respect their professionalism.
                  While states exist, there are borders that need to be protected. There is no getting away from this.
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 24 August 2020 10: 07 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Rich
                    And why are disadvantaged proletarians and peasants from neighboring countries not rushing in droves to permanent residence in Israel?

                    And how they are torn! Do you think why the whole planes send back passengers of flights from Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia?

                    As for the facts, I don't know who Sylvester is, but links to VO are not welcome. Here and the statements that "Volga flows into the Caspian Sea", and "The moon is a natural satellite of the Earth", is simply declared a fake, so, excuse me, if you are really interested, take a look at the network yourself. There are enough materials.

                    Quote: Rich
                    I was jarred by your expression "karatsupy". Not beautiful. After all, it would never occur to anyone in our country to dismissively call Israeli border guards honestly performing their duty as "noimans" or "ebsteins"

                    It will come as soon as it comes. All the epithets are countless. And beauty is a relative thing, excuse me for being straightforward. hi
            2. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 24 August 2020 06: 50 New
              -2
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Only a "Trotskyist" is not a curse word. And he was never a Trotskyist.
              Do not be so categorical.hi
              1. I never called him names.
              2. He was a Trotskyist and a Menshevik, but he changed his color.
              Stalin's associate Lazar Kaganovich, when nominating Khrushchev to the Moscow Committee of the BKP (b), characterized him as a former Trotskyist and directly reported this to Stalin, and when he asked: “How is it now?”, Kaganovich replied: “… He is fighting the Trotskyists. Actively speaking. He fights sincerely "(Felix Chuev" Thus Spoke Faganovich "). However, Khrushchev's subsequent activities showed that he probably did not part with Trotskyist ideas until the end of his life. It is reported by Rambler. Further: https://weekend.rambler.ru/people/41219156/?utm_content=weekend_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 24 August 2020 09: 55 New
                0
                Quote: Mavrikiy
                when Khrushchev was nominated to the Moscow Committee of the BKP (b)

                These are already the events of 1949, and the struggle against Trotskyism was at first (from about 23 years old) a pure struggle for power, and then, in the 30s, a pretext for mass repressions. All enemies are Trotskyists! Accusations of sabotage and sabotage acquired a political connotation, even a bad cook could, if desired, be accused of Trotskyism. The authorities are obsessed with Trotsky.

                Stalin considered it necessary to speak on this score:

                - From a political trend, Trotskyism has turned into a frenzied and unprincipled gang of saboteurs, saboteurs, spies and murderers acting on the instructions of the intelligence agencies of foreign states.


                All over the country there were arrests on typical charges: "For active counter-revolutionary Trotskyist activities." Since 1935, the charges worsened: they were imprisoned for "terrorist Trotskyist activities." This is already a firing squad. Well, etc.

                In fact, there was neither Trotskyism - as some kind of organized political trend, nor Trotskyists - Trotsky's loyal supporters. He did not try to create some kind of opposition. I didn’t recruit followers. Yes, being an orthodox Marxist, he only sharply criticized the Stalinist command-administrative system of government.

                In exile, Trotsky was able to settle only in Mexico. No European country agreed to accept it. Trotsky had very few supporters around the world. But it seemed to Stalin that Trotsky was still dangerous, so the foreign intelligence task force made several attempts to kill him. One of them was successful.

                In the spring of 1940, in his will, Trotsky wrote:
                "I will die as a proletarian revolutionary, Marxist, dialectical materialist and, therefore, an implacable atheist ... Under whatever circumstances I die, I will die with unshakable faith in a communist future."

                There is nothing to be done, decades of work of the propaganda machine were not in vain. Trotsky was turned into the embodiment of evil. Those who consider the revolution a tragedy cannot forget that under his leadership the Petrograd Bolsheviks took power in October. The communists call him the worst enemy of the revolution. Nationalists are sure that he was destroying Russia on the instructions of world freemasonry. In a word, "Wherever you throw, everywhere there is a wedge ..." (c)
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 23 August 2020 09: 07 New
    +1
    The description of the wife is associated with the choice of a mare - the main thing is that she chewed correctly and thinner caviar ((Since I worked in the oil industry, I had no problems with money and food. Those who wanted to work in the USSR worked. To my wife at the dawn of our marriage life once made claims about scrambled eggs - she (scrambled eggs) flew away from the 4th floor along with a plate - there were no more questions about my wife's cooking laughing
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 23 August 2020 15: 08 New
      +3
      How did you cook your wife later? And where they flew away. Literally 5 minutes ago, a neighbor was taken away with a broken personality, in an ambulance. did not like how the wife cooked cutlets. I'm looking at his wife, I've already been in prison for the murder of her husband ...
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 23 August 2020 15: 15 New
        +4
        Did he say out loud that you didn't like the cutlets? Brave man! Though reckless ...
      2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 16: 02 New
        +6
        Father told me, when you take the bride into the house, look at the mother-in-law! An apple does not fall far from an apple tree!
        In my life, I remembered the words of my father, a couple of times, listened and did not regret it!
        The first time when I came to a girl's house and saw their uniform pigsty!
        The second time I looked at the scandal in their house! Got it nafig - nafig, we'll wait and think.
        1. kalibr
          23 August 2020 17: 34 New
          +5
          Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
          it was not the father who said, when you take the bride into the house, look at the mother-in-law! An apple does not fall far from an apple tree!
          In my life, I remembered the words of my father, a couple of times, listened and did not regret it!
          The first time when I came to a girl's house and saw their uniform pigsty!
          The second time I looked at the scandal in their house! Got it nafig - nafig, we'll wait and think.

          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • faterdom
    faterdom 23 August 2020 09: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
    They miss now (whoever caught those times) for natural products without any chemistry. It doesn't matter whether it's food products, alcohol or tobacco, everything was real, the taste and smell of which I still remember.

    Well, not really. Vegetables and fruits - herbicides with pesticides, Tobacco ... well, maybe Belomorkanal. Cigarettes - below any criticism, with what everything got mixed up there - is not clear.

    Well, here's how to look ... each self-respecting tobacco factory produced its own "brand", where they put the tobacco that was supposed to, and in other cigarettes - whatever came to hand.
    Java, Rostov, Our brand, Arinberd, Kastytis ... At the same time, the most expensive Cosmos, being a "nobody's" brand, did not guarantee anything: only in combination with the city that released it. But about those that I mentioned, an understanding smoker turned on "lights in the eyes" and followed: Give me a smoke, well, you want - in exchange ... "
    However, connoisseurs could buy a real Havana cigar for 30 kopecks a piece, which could only get into the United States by smuggling and much at a different price. Or cigarettes from cigar trimmings - Liberos, Partagas - once you drag on and you will never forget!
    However, since the 80s, due to the positive influence in trade with Finland, Marlboro, Camel, Bond Street have appeared everywhere, all for a ruble! Together with Japanese and German compact cassettes for a ducat.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 23 August 2020 10: 15 New
      +2
      All for ruble50 kopecks ...
      And 40 kopecks each in 73, after the Soyuz-Apollo flight.
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 23 August 2020 10: 50 New
        +2
        First there was a ruble (this is when the Cosmos is 60 kopecks). Then there was a general rise in the price of cigarettes: Our brand 25-30, Cosmos 60-70, Winston salem 1 --- 1,5 rubles.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 23 August 2020 11: 01 New
          +1
          Perhaps, but in Minsk there were only Marlborough and Salem at 1.50.
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 23 August 2020 14: 13 New
        +4
        in 73, after the flight Soyuz-Appolon.

        Flight was in 1975, cigarettes in 1976
    2. Free wind
      Free wind 23 August 2020 11: 56 New
      +5
      Cigars seem to be remembered at 70 kopecks each, in an aluminum sleeve. Malbro, Caml in Moldova began to do. Ligeros, yes, it was death, drag on and immediately realize that smoking is harmful. Healthy men were knocked down. The cassettes were of course much better quality. Our MK-60 heads were destroyed at the tape recorders, six months later, the mafon began to creak. Sonya, and some others were 5 pieces in a package, they did not suffer from this, and were collapsible, the tape was easy to glue., But they cost 6 rubles. Although they were bought up by all sorts of recorders, and sold much more expensive.
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 23 August 2020 12: 14 New
        +2
        In aluminum, this is already the highest class - they called La Corona. It's just that Havana is covered in cellophane. With a beautiful paper ring.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 23 August 2020 14: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: faterdom
          In aluminum, this is already the highest class - they called La Corona. It's just that Havana is covered in cellophane. With a beautiful paper ring.

          There were also boxes of 25 pieces. Romeo and Juliet pledged ...
      2. BAI
        BAI 23 August 2020 17: 35 New
        +3
        but they cost 6 rubles.

        S-90s always went from 9 rubles.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 10: 30 New
    +7
    Baked tomatoes in Spanish.
    I never thought it could be delicious until I visited Spain.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. Liam
      Liam 23 August 2020 10: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      that it can be delicious

      You just haven't tasted toasted bananas
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 10: 56 New
        +6
        Tried it but was not impressed.
        1. Liam
          Liam 23 August 2020 10: 59 New
          +1
          Which national restaurant?
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 August 2020 11: 03 New
            +9
            No, I did it myself. Probably wrong. I am not indifferent to bananas at all, I did not have enough of them in my childhood crying
            1. Liam
              Liam 23 August 2020 11: 08 New
              +3
              I ate them in a Brazilian restaurant and fried pineapples were served, which is also very tasty.
              Perhaps a role was played by the fact that the waitresses were dressed in carnival costumes ... a minimum of feathers and all that. From the waist down, few can compare with Brazilian women)
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 August 2020 11: 14 New
                +5
                fried pineapple
                By the way, I like Chinese pork with pineapple.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 23 August 2020 11: 31 New
                  +2
                  Have not tried in this combination
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 11: 42 New
                    +4
                    In Chinese restaurants it is an ordinary dish, at least in St. Petersburg.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 23 August 2020 11: 54 New
                      +1
                      There is very little Chinese pork here, and the way we cook it is not popular with the natives, to put it mildly. Eaten mostly as a prosciutto, wrap a slice of melon with a very thin cut prosciuto crudo - and you get a thing)
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 11: 58 New
                        +3
                        What is pork?
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 12: 01 New
                        +1
                        What do you mean?
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 04 New
                        +2
                        Well, how is it cooked?
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 12: 08 New
                        +1
                        Italians hardly ever cook or eat fresh pork; they eat it mostly in the form of raw sausages or prosciutto.
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 14 New
                        +3
                        I mean, what is prosciutto?
                        I wonder how different food habits are in the Mediterranean countries!
                      6. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 12: 17 New
                        +1
                        I don’t know how correctly in Russian. In Russia, the Spanish version is known - jamon.
                        https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosciutto_crudo#/media/File%3ASan_Daniele_Schinken.JPG
                      7. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 23 New
                        +3
                        Oh, now I understand! Raw jerky or raw soot. I'll have to try, we have just melon season. Thanks for the recipe!
                      8. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 12: 33 New
                        +1
                        The main thing is that the cuts of the ham are as thin as possible.
                      9. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 40 New
                        +3
                        This is not a problem, in the store they will chop on the slider. But the jamon itself is very, very expensive. Although, of course, cheaper than in Barcelona.
                      10. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 12: 43 New
                        +1
                        Share your impression)
                      11. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 44 New
                        +3
                        About the cost?
                      12. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 12: 47 New
                        +1
                        She ... liked it or not.
                        The cost, if the product is original, should be rather big. The average price of such prosciutto is 25/30 euros per kg. Although for a sample and assessment of taste, 100 g is enough)
                      13. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 53 New
                        +3
                        whether I liked it or not.
                        Undoubtedly!
                        Ours is more expensive, about 35-40 €, in Barcelona, ​​in the Boqueria market, the lowest price was 45.
                      14. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 12: 56 New
                        +1
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Ours is more expensive

                        Domestic ham?
                      15. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 13: 01 New
                        +3
                        To be honest, I was not interested. Rather yes than no, Russia is under sanctions, and in both directions.
                      16. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 13: 04 New
                        +1
                        That is why I asked: You seem to have been banned from importing food from the EU, which is probably why domestic ham has become more expensive than overseas
                      17. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 13: 15 New
                        +3
                        This is probably a question in the process of developing the final product, in the case of ham, it is long and expensive. Pork itself, if you take raw meat, costs about 4 € / kg. But in principle, the Russian agricultural sector has improved greatly over these 6 years. You can talk about this at "Krasnodar" and ask, he's in the subject.
                      18. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 13: 26 New
                        +1
                        I will not discuss the quality of your ham because I haven’t tried it, but the process of making it is unlikely to be longer, more complicated and more expensive than the Spanish or Italian.
                        The price is surprising. You say ham is even more expensive than 30 euros. Fresh pork in Italy costs the same 4/6 euros. Taking into account the levels of wages, production costs, taxes and purchasing power of the population, which are significantly lower in Russia, there are no sane economic reasons for such a high cost, except for the increase prices of local producers after the sanctions removed competition
                      19. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 13: 37 New
                        +3
                        Can you tell me the current cost of 95 RON gasoline at Shell filling stations in Italy?
                      20. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 13: 46 New
                        0
                        In Italy, there is no 95,76 and so on gasoline. There is one "grade" - called Green. Gasoline is on average 10/15 cents more expensive than diesel.
                        The cost of a diesel engine at self-service gas stations was 1,21 euros for the last time a few days ago. At "branded" gas stations - Shell, API, Tamoil and other self-service stations are on average 5 cents more expensive. With personnel who will fill the glasses / headlights themselves wipe (these are mainly those that are located on the autobahns) - there are 20/30 cents more expensive
                      21. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 14: 02 New
                        +3
                        This is a country in which there are no own deposits of energy carriers, there is no nuclear energy and transport tax is included in this amount.
                        The day before yesterday I refueled at the Shell 47 rubles. 19kop. per liter.
                      22. Liam
                        Liam 23 August 2020 14: 10 New
                        +1
                        80% of these prices are taxes and fees. Moreover, some have a fairly long history. A couple of cents from the price of a liter of gasoline were introduced by Mussolini as fees for the Abyssinian war in 35)
                        By the way, nuclear energy is the most expensive of all.
                      23. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 14: 22 New
                        +3
                        In Russia, it is also loaded at 50% of its design capacity.
                  2. Yaik Cossack
                    Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 14: 12 New
                    +2
                    In Finland, diesel is 1,27.
                  3. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 14: 18 New
                    +2
                    They won't let me in Finland on my bucket laughing
        2. kalibr
          23 August 2020 20: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Liam
          You seem to have banned food imports from the EU

          We are selling moldy cheeses from the EU. But the private traders themselves are doing no worse ...
  • rich
    rich 24 August 2020 00: 37 New
    +4
    Wrap a slice of melon with a very thin cut prosciuto crudo - and you get a thing

    And in the Stavropol Territory we cook stewed pork with melon according to the Cossack

    Ingredients:
    Pork-gram 200-300
    Melon Quarter
    Garlic -2-cloves
    Carrot - one medium
    Onion - one medium
    Ginger - half a teaspoon
    Ramson-half bunch
    Basil-floor bunch
    Cilantro half beam
    Dill-floor bunch
    Parsley-half bunch
    Broth half a glass
    Sugar half a teaspoon
    Grape wine - two tablespoons
    Vegetable oil - one tablespoon
    Corn starch - one teaspoon
    Tomato - one piece
    Pepper, salt - To taste
    Cut the pork into cubes, fry in a skillet with onions, grated carrots, butter, sugar, starch and wine; put it on the roaster, add the melon, whole tomato, herbs and spices, cut into cubes, pour in broth and a spoonful of wine, and simmer in the oven or in the oven for about 20 minutes. Then discard the tomato. I recommend it, especially with wine or cold beer. Nothing with vodka either drinks Lick your fingers good
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 23 August 2020 12: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Ham

    This is what you call prosciutto - a ham made from a ham grated with salt. hi
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 27 New
    +5
    Hello, Alexanr!
    But ham can be cooked in different ways, this is the point I figured out.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 23 August 2020 13: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Hello, Alexanr!
    But ham can be cooked in different ways, this is the point I figured out.

    And I welcome you!
    Prosciutto has already been explained to you, I understand.
    As for the different food addictions in the Mediterranean countries, this is a rather large topic, so in short:
    Today it is already difficult to talk about any more or less intelligible division of them.
    Poor countries, for example, Lebanon and Syria, continue to consume large quantities of pickled olives, various greens, simple vegetables and round cakes made from wheat flour, flavored with olive oil and spices of varying quality. This is an affordable and cheap food. Fish, in different forms and seafood are not cheap here. The Mediterranean Sea is relatively small and shallow, so industrial fishing is limited. All this is caught in quantities that can be handed over to the nearest store having received a little money, or consumed in a few days.
    In richer countries - Cyprus, Israel, everything is already so mixed up that it is difficult to single out any "predilections" directly. There is everything that today is called healthy food. Fruits and vegetables all year round with small seasonal price fluctuations in one direction or another. It costs, of course, some money, but it is quite affordable. Almost all of this is grown locally, which was not yet 35-40 years ago until the problems with fresh water were completely resolved.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 13: 31 New
    +5
    Still, there are differences. So, it turned out that Italians practically do not eat pork. And in Greece, for example, (Rhodes) pork and potatoes are a common dish in public catering.
    In Catalonia, there are potatoes in stores, but they are more expensive than mangoes.
    And fish is expensive everywhere, only in Russia for its specific reasons.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 23 August 2020 13: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Still, there are differences. So, it turned out that Italians practically do not eat pork. And in Greece, for example, (Rhodes) pork and potatoes are a common dish in public catering.
    In Catalonia, there are potatoes in stores, but they are more expensive than mangoes.
    And fish is expensive everywhere, only in Russia for its specific reasons.

    However, this cannot be called “addictions”. Rhodes is full of tourists. Local Greeks do not eat this disgrace at all, which they sell to tourists at exorbitant prices under the guise of national cuisine.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 13: 48 New
    +5
    Well, I didn't take potatoes and pork as a national dish. laughing
    And I would not say that it was "disgraceful", I ate mainly in the "Jason" restaurant and I must say the impressions from the catering are much better than from the Greek hotel service.
  • kalibr
    23 August 2020 17: 45 New
    +3
    There will be more about the cuisine in Crete ... it's worth it!
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 24 August 2020 01: 42 New
    +4
    Quote: Liam
    Have not tried in this combination

    Yummy!
  • Free wind
    Free wind 23 August 2020 11: 58 New
    +3
    Beef chop, stewed with pineapple rings, yummy awesome.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 23 August 2020 12: 06 New
      +4
      I usually add more mushrooms.
  • kalibr
    23 August 2020 17: 43 New
    +3
    Anton !, You are "our man", and therefore personally to you (to everyone else in the second place!), Another signature recipe of mine: smoked meat must be from the market, not dry, with pepper, on a slice of pineapple (raw), and that's all for a slice of toasted bread - white / black - to taste. Great appetizer and snack! It is possible with jamon - I checked it, but our homemade meat is also great.
    1. Liam
      Liam 23 August 2020 17: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: kalibr
      smoked meat is mandatory from the market,

      Why exactly from the market?
      1. kalibr
        23 August 2020 18: 11 New
        +4
        Well, in my Penza I don't find such meat in stores as in the market. And since now all the shops in the country are similar, so are the markets ... too. I hope ...
        1. Liam
          Liam 23 August 2020 18: 29 New
          +1
          Perhaps these are just echoes of the Soviet past). Then the market was really better (and more expensive) than the store. Now, in theory, you should have the opposite.
          Do private traders sell their own production on the market?
        2. kalibr
          23 August 2020 20: 28 New
          +3
          Yes, next to me is a small market that is activated on Saturdays and Sundays, there are two points where they sell homemade smoked meats of excellent quality. In one family, and in another, a young guy is simply obsessed with the health and quality of his products. So I take it from him ...
        3. Liam
          Liam 24 August 2020 10: 56 New
          0
          I trust. More shopping malls. It is unlikely that garbage will slip. And the market is a lottery
        4. kalibr
          24 August 2020 11: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: Liam
          I trust. More shopping malls. It is unlikely that garbage will slip. And the market is a lottery

          You have little idea of ​​my position in Penza. From 1980 to 1991 I hosted author programs for children. A whole generation (and more than one) of Penza residents who know me by sight has grown up on them. Then my pupils, students, their parents ... Articles in local newspapers with photos ... People unknown to me greet me. And it is also repeated in the market. "I studied with you. Buy from me, I will not cheat." They tell you what is fresh and what is not. And so everywhere, in shops, bakeries ... Just the young people in shopping centers no longer know me. And advertising ... "that's who buys from me, and that's who ...". So the markets are everything to me!
        5. Liam
          Liam 24 August 2020 11: 10 New
          +1
          Your case is special I meant the big picture
        6. kalibr
          24 August 2020 11: 18 New
          +1
          In general, yes, but ... when talking to people, smiling at them, praising their products. then even strangers can be made familiar and they will appreciate you. There were a couple of times that such people deceived me. But the deception was quickly revealed and I approached them when there were more people around and denounced loudly. Here, many are ashamed of ... everything. But not me. After this ... the whole market talks about this news, but they point the finger at the unscrupulous ones. It is unpleasant. Moreover, I always immediately warn "do not deceive me". Here a man came up to you from the village, obviously ... as much as you want. Or some bzdun - they are immediately visible. But not me. I am sure that others can do the same!
        7. Liam
          Liam 24 August 2020 11: 46 New
          0
          It depends on the availability of free time, character, temperament. Therefore, I prefer the shopping center - fast, dry, polite and with a guarantee)
          The market is only vegetables and fruits. There is more choice and prices are lower than in the shopping center. Meat, if not from the shopping center, there are many small private meat shops. There you will personally meet the seller, and knowledge of your tastes and call in advance and he will prepare everything in a package and you just drop by for a second to pay and take a package. Naturally, there is on average more expensive than in a shopping center
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    1. Liam
      Liam 24 August 2020 10: 59 New
      +1
      I am not sure that for weight loss it is necessary to completely exclude any product. The question is rather in balance and proportions.
      Helps by the way?)
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 24 August 2020 11: 07 New
        +4
        -4 kg per month
      2. Liam
        Liam 24 August 2020 11: 12 New
        +1
        Not bad so. I was lucky with my metabolism. Regardless of what and how much I eat, the weight has not changed for the last 20 years. In summer 82, in winter 85. And pressure 120/80)
      3. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 24 August 2020 11: 49 New
        +1
        As I sat behind the wheel, I began to get fat.
    2. kalibr
      24 August 2020 11: 27 New
      +1
      Anton! What are you about 4 kg. Yes, it is possible to gorge yourself on bread. Toasts, bruschetta, buckwheat bread ... With the cream I gave the recipe below. My granddaughter is an adherent of healthy eating. Wow, and even then he eats all this, although he measures out the calories there ... And most importantly - exercises in the morning, 40 minutes of walking at a brisk pace, a glass of kefir for the night and ... that's it! And everything will fly off you! Yes, and more ... THERE IS NOTHING CHEAP. Only the most expensive, freshest and most delicious. Good food should be LITTLE and you won't get fat from it. Buckwheat cake with a slice of Dor Blue cheese, three slices of tomato with country sour cream. A baked egg with shrimps, one oat liver and coffee - here's your first breakfast. The second is a hot sandwich - like papas or a slice of fresh pizza. Coffee. Lunch - Soup of the day (one-time), potato soup, but better with broccoli, cucumber salad, tomato, lots of arugula, basil, feta cheese instead of salt with olive oil. For the second: a piece of rabbit or rabbit liver - garnish with a spoonful of red beans. Homemade compote with a minimum of sugar. At 5 o'clock - tea with lemon balm or mint, homemade unleavened cookies, dinner - salad with feta cheese, olives and shrimps. Kefir - that's all !!! Slenderness is guaranteed to you. All this gives a lot of calories, but easily digestible, and not a drop of fat.
    3. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 24 August 2020 11: 48 New
      +1
      Vyacheslav Olegovich, this is all great, but not with my work! And yes, first you need to reduce the weight to at least 80.
    4. kalibr
      24 August 2020 11: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      but not with my job!

      I sympathize! Very!
  • kalibr
    24 August 2020 11: 07 New
    +2
    Dry, crispy, on bran and cereals - you can.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 24 August 2020 01: 41 New
    +6
    Quote: Liam
    I ate them in a Brazilian restaurant and fried pineapples were served, which is also very tasty.
    Perhaps a role was played by the fact that the waitresses were dressed in carnival costumes ... a minimum of feathers and all that. From the waist down, few can compare with Brazilian women)

    Fried bananas are delicious. Tried in Israel, in a chef's restaurant ... Mediterranean cuisine laughing
    1. Liam
      Liam 24 August 2020 10: 55 New
      +2
      To my shame, I haven't been to a Jewish restaurant yet, I must try)
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 05 New
        +4
        There are restaurants of Eastern European Jews - there are some original and interesting ones)). In restaurants called Jewish, you eat the same Arabic cuisine - hummus, falafel, kebab and pargiot - chicken thighs turned inside out - I advise you to visit an Arab restaurant - about the same, but tastier)))))
        1. Liam
          Liam 24 August 2020 11: 08 New
          +2
          Yes? The world is small)
          Recently I was in Greek. Not to say that it impressed. The same "kebab" meat like the Arabs and Turks has a slightly different performance)
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 15 New
            +4
            I advise you to visit more Greek restaurants - in Bavaria I was in two, in one city. One sucks. The other one is Wow good
            Their trick is not meat, that is, it is also tasty, but the catch is Fish. All fish is super. And salads with their soft cheese. ))
          2. Liam
            Liam 24 August 2020 11: 20 New
            +2
            Naturally I ate salads. But they are quite similar in ingredients and taste to Moldavian ones, so I'm used to it and not "impressed". And something else that looks like placinths). We didn't take the fish, we decided to try the meat line.
            There was not a single connoisseur of cuisine among us, so we chose at random according to the ingredients and appearance from the photo from the menu, which is probably why it happened).
          3. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 25 New
            +4
            Greek salads - they are made with olive oil, but in principle, the Balkan cuisine is similar in this regard. I advise you to visit Crete after the pandemic - inexpensive, tasty and original cuisine - slightly different from the "Greek continental"))
          4. Liam
            Liam 24 August 2020 11: 30 New
            +2
            It's hard for us with vacations). Because of work Pts it is difficult to combine my holidays, my wife's and the holidays of my children. We are going on a cruise ship "out of season" to make a tour for a couple of weeks. Then we will probably try
          5. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 31 New
            +3
            I do not recommend a cruise ship these days ... and instead of a hotel it is better to take an apartment
          6. Liam
            Liam 24 August 2020 11: 34 New
            +2
            So naturally, not now and not in the coming months. Until the vaccine appears and all the trips are settled. There were two weeks in Liguria in June, and that's all this year. The risks are too big. We rented an apartment this year, not a hotel. as usual. Just what would "not crowd"
          7. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 39 New
            +3
            Here good And until my youngest one is four years old (now she is one and a half, almost), in any case, I will not travel further than the Black Sea coast
          8. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 August 2020 20: 21 New
            +2
            Apparently, in St. Petersburg you will not wait, you will have to come yourself. laughing
          9. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 20: 23 New
            +4
            I will be glad to see wink ... well, if I find a good nanny to replace myself, maybe I will go to your basement with Nikolai laughing
          10. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 August 2020 20: 27 New
            +2
            Did the nannies get sick or did you realize the charms of fatherhood?
          11. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 20: 29 New
            +4
            I realized that nobody but myself can be trusted in this matter. The nanny was left alone - in the evening I can't wait to dump)).
          12. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 August 2020 20: 41 New
            +2
            Oh, damn it! How complicated it is! Has your wife gone to work?
          13. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 21: 22 New
            +3
            No, sitting at home laughing Decree
          14. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 August 2020 21: 28 New
            +2
            What for then a nanny?
          15. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 21: 55 New
            +3
            4 children
            Younger year and five
            Medium 3 and five
            Easy? laughing
          16. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 August 2020 22: 02 New
            +2
            Can I tell you about my schedule, when the eldest is 17, the middle is 7, the youngest is a year old, and the wife doesn't want to do anything?
          17. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 22: 45 New
            +3
            Three minutes only hands
            Three minutes just feet
            Three minutes kickboxing?
            17 and 7 - you can negotiate and do a one-year-old
            2 times 3 years old who fight in the style of valetudu and a year old who also wants to participate in this are different things laughing
          18. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 August 2020 23: 14 New
            +2
            Everything was a little tougher for me. Absolutely.
          19. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 23: 24 New
            +3
            And what did you do?
          20. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 24 August 2020 23: 39 New
            +2
            He worked, took care of children, did the housework. Not enough yet ...
            To be honest, your situation is many times easier than mine, because you have some money. I didn't have them. Not at all.
          21. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 August 2020 23: 53 New
            +3
            How can I say ... my expenses are starting ... I don't want to disclose how much. And what you can earn now, you yourself know
          22. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 25 August 2020 00: 03 New
            +2
            I represent your expenses. Krasnodar, though a province, is not a cheap city. And one more thing ... You and I are slightly at the racial levels of social and property status ...
          23. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 25 August 2020 00: 11 New
            +3
            Yes, I’m already two years old, as not to show off laughing
  • kalibr
    24 August 2020 12: 01 New
    +3
    Quote: Liam
    We are going on a cruise ship "out of season" to make a tour for a couple of weeks.

    If it's not a secret where?
  • Liam
    Liam 24 August 2020 12: 10 New
    +2
    Mediterranean. Tunisia, Egypt, Greece, islands
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 11: 16 New
    +6
    Recently I was in Greek. Not to say that it impressed. The same "kebab" meat like the Arabs and Turks has a slightly different performance)

    In Zakynthos, if you don't know what to take, there were two ordinary dishes that were served in restaurants. These are gyros and moussaka. Moussaku never tasted it in two weeks of staying there ... The meat was mostly straightforward - steak. The seafood was very tasty, but their cost was much higher than meat. hi Therefore, Greek cuisine has largely remained a mystery to me! But "ouzo" - yes, it is a thing! good
    By the way, the inscriptions "gyros" now appear in St. Petersburg. I will have to try, but I doubt that in domestic cooking it will be very different from shawarma. laughing
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 27 New
    +4
    In Krasnodar, Gyros is good, (the Greeks keep it), and moussaka is yummy. By the way, it is also included in the menu of Jewish restaurants laughing But in Crete I ate the most delicious snails)).
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 11: 39 New
    +3
    and moussaka is yummy

    I believe, Albert! yes
    But in Crete I ate the most delicious snails)).

    I did not eat land snails, but I really like the rapana. More than mussels. good
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 44 New
    +4
    Also tasty - but that's different. And I'm not a lover of mussels))
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 11: 46 New
    +4
    Also tasty - but that's different. And I'm not a lover of mussels))

    to each his own! I would now gladly take a ride to Belarus, to Polotsk or Vitebsk to eat potato pancakes. laughing But, you know, the situation is not favorable. sad
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 24 August 2020 11: 52 New
    +5
    Oh, before Moldova, I would eat "blue" with mayonnaise and garlic - eggplant pasta ... with placinth and hominy ... eh ... kasha, which is cut with thread
  • Liam
    Liam 24 August 2020 11: 49 New
    +2
    This gyros was tried among other things)
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 12: 01 New
    +5
    This gyros was tried among other things)

    When I was in Crimea for the only time in my life, in 2011, there was a cafe with a Ukrainian flavor on the pier of Koktebel. Lard, pancakes, other dishes of Ukrainian cuisine. Waitresses in embroidered shirts ... good But I remember their signature dish - "burning Karadag". It was an inverted glass bowl with a mound of chopped chicken, cheese, and something else. All this was brought in, sprinkled with something strong, and set on fire. The cheese melted and spread. It was delicious! Hope they still work. drinks
  • hohol95
    hohol95 24 August 2020 22: 36 New
    +1
    And no one remembered about the legs of "Bush Sr."
    Or, how they began to buy frozen fish in whole blocks - blue whiting or pollock.
    And small wholesale markets and bazaars a la "Anthill" flourished!
    Or that they stopped buying alcohol in stores and rushed to the booths for a bottle of "Three Bogatyrs" and a pack of salted peanuts - 10 thousand rubles! In 1996.
    But now - you want kebab, you want samsa.
    Nobody wants sprat in tomato and instant noodles?
    And you may have to remember their taste ... drinks
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 25 August 2020 12: 04 New
    +3
    no one wants instant noodles anymore?

    I ate the day before yesterday. And the day before yesterday. I can't get rid of my youthful habits! laughing
  • hohol95
    hohol95 25 August 2020 21: 30 New
    0
    The main thing is not to be like schoolchildren and not to gnaw a dry noodle briquette! good
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 10: 31 New
    +6
    I ate them in a Brazilian restaurant.

    Enlighten, bananas go as a side dish? and salty?
    Although my friend Anton is a fan of Chinese cuisine, I do not agree. request
    1. Liam
      Liam 24 August 2020 10: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      I ate them in a Brazilian restaurant.

      Enlighten, bananas go as a side dish? and salty?
      Although my friend Anton is a fan of Chinese cuisine, I do not agree. request

      Well, there the main dish is meat. A dozen types of meat are served in different ways, cooked in small portions. And between one type of meat and another, different things are served from fruits, salads, etc. In the sense, this is necessary in order to "clear" your mouth after the previous meat dish and appreciate the taste of the new without hindrance. Naturally, everything is thought out, the types of meat are served in a certain sequence and these desserts are also tied to a certain type of meat. It turns out very tasty on the whole.
      Although for me personally their best cocktail dish is caipirinha. It's definitely a bomb)
      1. kalibr
        24 August 2020 11: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: Liam
        Well, there the main dish is meat. A dozen types of meat are served in different ways, cooked in small portions. And between one type of meat and another, different things are served from fruits, salads, etc. In the sense, this is necessary in order to "clear" your mouth after the previous meat dish and appreciate the taste of the new without hindrance. Naturally, everything is thought out, the types of meat are served in a certain sequence and these desserts are also tied to a certain type of meat. It turns out very tasty on the whole.

        In Cyprus, this is called meze. There is meat, there is fish. Eat everything - you will burst! And they serve one or two fish ...
        1. Liam
          Liam 24 August 2020 11: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          Eat everything - you will burst!

          The only way to master the whole "chain" is to eat without bread
      2. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 11: 12 New
        +4
        Naturally, everything is thought out, the types of meat are served in a certain sequence and these desserts are also tied to a certain type of meat. It turns out very tasty in general.

        They know how! Well done! drinks
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 24 August 2020 22: 52 New
    +1
    Tried it but not impressed. ©
    Let me clarify:
    As a resident of the region - only "bananas" are fried, in Russia they are hardly sold, but what we call a banana is called "plane tree".
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 23 August 2020 11: 35 New
    +5
    In our area, tomatoes are a product for salads and pickling.
    But the southern ones - at the place of growth - is a fairy tale, starting from the smell.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 23 August 2020 11: 40 New
      +6
      Catalans add oranges to a banal salad of tomatoes and cucumbers.
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 23 August 2020 11: 46 New
        +5
        We have mushrooms jam in autumn and winter.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 23 August 2020 11: 51 New
          +7
          They have jamon all year round.
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 23 August 2020 13: 15 New
            +4
            “They have money - chickens don't bite,
            And we don't have enough for vodka ”(c).
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 23 August 2020 14: 48 New
              +6
              Not without it. Compared to the 14th year, my income fell by 2 times.
          2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 17: 04 New
            +5
            Came from the village!
            I rammed 15 liters of butter, 7 liters of white and 5 liters of boletus and boletus, two 10-liter buckets of pears, 30 kilograms of tomatoes (for shit), a thigh of wild boar (here my brother-in-law piled up, yesterday the hunt was allowed)! Now, after reading you, I sit and think, why should my wife agitate !!!
            I don't know how to do jamon anyway, I'll go beg for borscht !!!
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 23 August 2020 17: 15 New
              +5
              laughing With such a "catch" your wife will curse you! "It would be better to drink !!!" laughing
              1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 18: 59 New
                +5
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                laughing With such a "catch" your wife will curse you! "It would be better to drink !!!" laughing

                12 liters of Cherry Liqueur, at various stages of preparation.
                And borscht is already furling on the stove !!!
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 23 August 2020 19: 05 New
                  +4
                  I understood! "Envy in silence!" laughing
                  I envy! crying
                  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 19: 10 New
                    +5
                    Take Anton to visit, in three weeks 3 liters of cherry will be ready, after 4 the rest - 9.
                    hi
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 23 August 2020 19: 32 New
                      +4
                      Yes, maybe I’ll come, St. Petersburg reality has bothered something. Will you accept?
                    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 19: 36 New
                      +3
                      Where am I going!
                    3. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 23 August 2020 19: 44 New
                      +4
                      You, servant, have a lot of excuses ...
                    4. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 20: 27 New
                      +3
                      Theoretically, there should be a vacation in December! So the real uncertainty is only with the upcoming control check from Moscow. So if there is no second wave of "cavitation" in Yekaterinburg, you can already start thinking!
                      I promise not to start repairs !!!
      2. kalibr
        23 August 2020 17: 48 New
        +4
        I envy. But ... besides shit, make ketchup! I do better than the store.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 19: 03 New
          +3
          Quote: kalibr
          I envy. But ... besides shit, make ketchup! I do better than the store.

          Already! And Leche, ktchup, pickles, preserves - but this damn thing is sacred for the Ural man, maximum survives until the new year !!!
          Now, before the first frost, dig, salt, collect!
          When they kept the cattle, everything ended with chopping, now salting cabbage !!!
          1. kalibr
            23 August 2020 20: 05 New
            +3
            I also suffer. The frozen carrots from last summer ended yesterday. They began to plow and freeze. Tomato juice. Apple juice. Dried apples for compote, pickled peppers, tomatoes in carrot tops, Greek eggplants ... every now and then they call me to spin cans ...
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 23 August 2020 19: 56 New
          +4
          Vyacheslav Olegovich! Fear God and the "siloviki"! Vlad completely, completely, completely, and three more times "completely" not to leave the country !!!!
          1. kalibr
            24 August 2020 07: 47 New
            +2
            How should I know?
  • rich
    rich 24 August 2020 04: 28 New
    +3
    3x3zsave (Anton): Catalans add oranges to a banal salad of tomatoes and cucumbers.

    Anton, try adding chopped plums and basil to a banal salad of tomatoes, cucumbers, onions and mayonnaise (sour cream or butter). I guarantee you will not regret
  • bk0010
    bk0010 23 August 2020 10: 44 New
    +6
    Instagram is not here !!! Because of the author, you will have to go to eat again ...
  • Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 23 August 2020 10: 49 New
    +3
    Yes, you, my friend, are a gourmet! After this article with picturesque and coveted photographs, many readers will urgently run to joke about something like that and edible.
  • iouris
    iouris 23 August 2020 11: 39 New
    +4
    Our shooter has succeeded everywhere. The wife is the cook, the first in line for "duffsite". And this despite the fact that "a difficult childhood, lack of vitamins, the cow fell into the cellar ..."
    I recommend that the Ministry of Education (or what is it called, the Ministry of Education and Science?) Include this material in the latest textbooks on the history of the democratic fatherland. Otherwise, the country will have no future.
    1. kalibr
      23 August 2020 17: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: iouris
      the cow fell into the cellar ... "

      We didn't keep the cow. Only rabbits. Personally, I have never written about the deficiency of vitamins. But then tangerines and oranges were actually eaten only for the new year, and bananas began to be sold only in the 70s. Green and only in June.
  • Yaik Cossack
    Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 14: 10 New
    +8
    Where I lived (the city of the 3rd category of supply) meat and butter from the free sale disappeared in 1976. They were "thrown away" or given by coupons through the order tables at enterprises. A little later, it became bad with sausages, there was never a ham. By 1981, it became completely rotten, fed the market, but for a common man it was a little expensive.
    In 1982, the KGB organized a whole investigation, as the inscriptions "To workers of Moscow from starving residents of the city ...." began to appear frequently on the carriages with the products of the local meat-packing plant.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 16: 34 New
      +5
      Now I can guess where you are from!
      With all due respect, Vlad!
      1. Yaik Cossack
        Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 16: 39 New
        +4
        "Never before has Stirlitz been so close to failure" lol
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 16: 55 New
          +3
          We had rumors about it, at the level of an anecdote, but "the fairy tale turned out to be a reality"!
  • BAI
    BAI 23 August 2020 17: 03 New
    +6
    And one even wrote that he had specially prepared illustrations for his future comments.

    Promised illustrations:




    1. BAI
      BAI 23 August 2020 17: 06 New
      +5




      Always tormented by the question: "How such beauty can be prepared and how it can be eaten"?
      Although even I could handle sprats.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 17: 37 New
        +3
        I have never been tortured, 10 bucks tip and we disperse happy with ourselves and each other!
      2. kalibr
        23 August 2020 17: 53 New
        +3
        At that time, I only looked at such photos. It seemed ... not for me! Thank you!
      3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 19: 17 New
        +2
        Not so! Especially after two bowls of borsch, give a time out!
  • Yaik Cossack
    Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 17: 24 New
    +4
    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    We had rumors about it, at the level of an anecdote, but "the fairy tale turned out to be a reality"!

    Pure truth!
    1. Yaik Cossack
      Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 17: 26 New
      +5
      Well, since we decided to tease everyone with exotic food, then I probably will take part.
      My life somehow threw me into the glorious high-mountainous city of Cuzco, in Peru.
      Well, walking in between things in this place, I decided to taste the colorful dishes. And where they are enjoyed by the local public.
      1. Yaik Cossack
        Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 17: 29 New
        +7
        Alpaca soup
        1. Yaik Cossack
          Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 17: 29 New
          +6
          Fried vicuna
          1. Yaik Cossack
            Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 17: 31 New
            +6
            Sacsayhuaman Inca Fortress
            1. Yaik Cossack
              Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 17: 32 New
              +5
              Cusco - view of the main square

              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 August 2020 18: 08 New
                +6
                Fuck! You were there? Disgustingly envy !!!
                1. Yaik Cossack
                  Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 18: 18 New
                  +5
                  Twice. From Cusco I even went to Machu Picchu.
              2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 August 2020 19: 21 New
                +3
                After the fresh boar borscht, the lammon soup looks dull. But the fortress, the city are gorgeous !!! Thank!!!
            2. kalibr
              23 August 2020 18: 17 New
              +5
              I envy black envy! Have you been to the gold museum?
              1. Yaik Cossack
                Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 18: 32 New
                +7
                He was in Lima. I was also there in almost all museums. It is worth noting the Larco Museum in Lima and the excellent military museum in the Real Felippe fortress in Callao (now part of Lima). There are 2 more large pyramids - huacas. About one I lived in a hotel on one visit. There are at least two magnificent museums in Cusco, one of them also has a lot of Indian gold.
                1. Yaik Cossack
                  Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 18: 42 New
                  +6
                  Yes, I forgot. Lima has an interesting maritime museum in the home of Miguel Grau. If interested, I can write a note with my photos on vacation)))
                  1. kalibr
                    23 August 2020 19: 58 New
                    +4
                    Of course do it. Try to have a volume of at least 8000 characters. With spaces ...
                    1. Yaik Cossack
                      Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 20: 39 New
                      +4
                      Golden Ritual Knives at the Museum of Pre-Columbian Art in Cusco

                      1. Yaik Cossack
                        Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 20: 40 New
                        +3
                        For some reason, when inserting, the quality deteriorates sharply, soap appears and you cannot insert a larger photo
                      2. kalibr
                        23 August 2020 20: 57 New
                        +3
                        This is only in the comments. When submitting an article, this will not happen!
                2. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 10: 37 New
                  +5
                  Lima has an interesting maritime museum in the home of Miguel Grau.

                  Is it the one who drowned the Esmeralda, whose captain Arturo Prat decided to use an ancient method of attack - a ram - to respond with no less ancient - boarding? hi I will support Vyacheslav Olegovich - we must write! drinks
                  1. Yaik Cossack
                    Yaik Cossack 25 August 2020 00: 25 New
                    +2
                    He is. Miguel Grau Seminario. On vacation I will try bully lol
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 25 August 2020 09: 25 New
                      +1
                      He is. Miguel Grau Seminario. On vacation I will try

                      I sincerely wish you good luck. drinks On museums and trips, articles generally easily "go" by writing. good
              2. kalibr
                23 August 2020 19: 59 New
                +4
                Lucky you ... I remember how I got to the Hermitage in the "Golden Room" and saw the famous Scythian crest ... It was something.
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 23 August 2020 17: 43 New
        +6
        I have eaten a lot in my life, but I haven't tried the llama! Well, how is it?
        1. Yaik Cossack
          Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 17: 57 New
          +5
          The lama is a relative of camels. So - quite tasty, the meat is soft. There is a certain taste. It reminded me of saiga meat and lamb.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 August 2020 18: 03 New
            +5
            Hmmm. Saigachin ate, there was such a fad in the USSR, in the 82nd year, even our "north" reached ...
            1. Yaik Cossack
              Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 18: 08 New
              +7
              I'll tell you one trick about the saiga. If killed after a long race, the meat will be poorly edible and smelly. It is necessary to soak in vinegar, then it’s okay. What was sold in the USSR - everything was from such hunts. They were caught up at 66m and beaten from the back.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 23 August 2020 18: 11 New
                +5
                I was told that it was not from "shishigi", but from helicopters.
                I am desperately sorry for the cattle, she is innocent that ten years earlier, all the wolves were killed in the steppes ...
                1. Yaik Cossack
                  Yaik Cossack 23 August 2020 18: 16 New
                  +5
                  Not always. Helicopter roads. In Kazakhstan, there were mainly Mi-8s, and they are large and gluttonous. From them, accounting and reconnaissance was carried out. And they beat me, as a rule, from cars.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 23 August 2020 18: 35 New
                    +4
                    Okay, I won't mind.
                  2. Private SA
                    Private SA 23 August 2020 23: 55 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
                    Not always. Helicopter roads. In Kazakhstan, there were mainly Mi-8s, and they are large and gluttonous. From them, accounting and reconnaissance was carried out. And they beat me, as a rule, from cars.

                    In my childhood, MI-4 flew in Sary-Shagan. Neighbor on balconies -
                    helicopter major. Climbed into the cockpit of Mi-4, was surprised by the number of dials
                    on the crossbar of the windshields
                2. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 24 August 2020 10: 38 New
                  +4
                  I was told that it was not from "shishigi", but from helicopters.

                  In the part of my dad they hunted with a "shishiga" .... He served in Kazakhstan! drinks
              2. kalibr
                23 August 2020 18: 17 New
                +5
                At that time, a UZBEKISTAN brand store was opened in Penza, where they were sold ... But there will be a separate article about this.
                1. Hantengri
                  Hantengri 23 August 2020 19: 49 New
                  +4
                  In Tashkent, in the 80s, they tried to sell saiga meat under the guise of mutton. It did not pass. The people began to be indignant. Mom until the end of her life, after that, remained a habit of meat, when buying it, carefully sniff it.
              3. Victorio
                Victorio 23 August 2020 19: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
                I'll tell you one trick about the saiga. If he was killed after a long race, meat will be slightly edible and smelly... It is necessary to soak in vinegar, then it’s okay. What was sold in the USSR - everything was from such hunts. They were caught up at 66m and beaten from the back.

                ===
                I don’t remember that, although my stepfather hunted saigas and brought them. the meat is harsh, I did not remember any other features, but they hunted from the UAZ.
                1. rich
                  rich 24 August 2020 04: 56 New
                  +6
                  I'll tell you one trick about the saiga. If killed after a long race, the meat will be poorly edible and smelly. It is necessary to soak in vinegar, then quite nothing

                  This is yes. We cooked like this in Turkmenistan. The saiga meat must be cleaned of the walls, washed and immersed until morning (even better - for a day) in the marinade. For the marinade: in a bucket of water, 50 g of sugar, 100 ml of 10% vinegar, spices (green walnuts, allspice, ground black pepper, cloves, coriander, herbs) tied in cheesecloth.
                  True, in the 80s saigas in Turkmenistan were not a frequent visitor. He then lived more in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan. And if you were lucky, they made shish kebabs, dumplings, shurpa from them. They extinguished.
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  • Private SA
    Private SA 23 August 2020 22: 57 New
    +2
    Well, if we graduated from a technical college and ate borscht with chicken necks (such
    the feeling that chickens in the USSR were three-headed, like the Serpent Gorynych in
    famous film), if we are starving in the courses of a young fighter in
    the army brigade transferred communications - we will survive.
    1. Chagan85
      Chagan85 24 August 2020 10: 07 New
      +3
      And I was starving as a two-year officer because of my greed. It was too lazy to get up in the morning and go to breakfast in the officers' mess (he lived in a service campus in a hostel). The first year was fine. Then he decided to save money, collect money for demobilization.
  • hohol95
    hohol95 23 August 2020 23: 30 New
    +3
    We were going to cook soup, so my wife demanded that I fry onions and carrots with it. "What for? And so it will do! " - “No, it won't do! It's tastier this way ... "-" I won't! We don’t do that… ”Word for word

    Fried onions in soups are not for everybody!
    So, how many people have so many opinions about sautéing onions and carrots for soups!
    1. kalibr
      24 August 2020 07: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: hohol95
      Fried onions in soups are not for everybody!
      So, how many people have so many opinions about sautéing onions and carrots for soups!

      I do not argue. But I didn't know AT ALL that it was possible. And I didn't try to do it ... Although books about delicious food were at hand. That is, I read, but ... did not read.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 24 August 2020 07: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Not he organized queue for butter and it was not he who introduced the coupons. This is entirely the merit of the local authorities.
    Come to power, as you say, tear down, began by destroying the "prison of peoples". Without this, one and a half hundred million would have sat under the protection of karatsup.

    Quote: A. Privalov
    It was not he who organized the queues for butter and he did not introduce the coupons. This is entirely the merit of the local authorities.
    The one who came to power, as you say, to destroy, began by destroying the "prison of peoples". Without this, one and a half hundred million would have sat under the protection of karatsup.

    fool fool fool It was he who sent dairy herds under the knife. Good prison 1/6 of the land fool Grandmothers retired anywhere in the country to see their granddaughters in millions.
    In this "prison" it was as safe as in Christ's bosom.
    Senility? I sympathize. hi
    1. kalibr
      24 August 2020 07: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      In this "prison" it was as safe as in Christ's bosom.

      And yet it fell apart. Everything was EXCELLENT, but it fell apart. Strange ...
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 24 August 2020 07: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        In this "prison" it was as safe as in Christ's bosom.

        And yet it fell apart. Everything was EXCELLENT, but it fell apart. Strange ...

        No wonder. Every nation is a foolish child. And the scoundrels often use this. Vaughn, Ukraine, Belarus.
        1. kalibr
          24 August 2020 12: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Every nation is a foolish child.

          Then "vegetable" whether to start at all? All the same, the scoundrels will come and overpower everyone!
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 24 August 2020 12: 38 New
            0
            Quote: kalibr
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Every nation is a foolish child.

            Then "vegetable" whether to start at all? All the same, the scoundrels will come and overpower everyone!

            Worth it. You just don’t need to think like a huckster, "what it will turn into." Liberators Stalin mastered and Putin will master.
            1. kalibr
              24 August 2020 12: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: Mavrikiy
              Liberators Stalin mastered and Putin will master.

              He overpowered and died like a dog, on the carpet by the sofa, and Khrushchev threw his mummy out of the mausoleum. Let's wait until Putin dies, and "then they found out about him ..."
  • Chagan85
    Chagan85 24 August 2020 09: 59 New
    +3
    If the author denigrates the USSR, I immediately thought - this is the caliber
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 24 August 2020 10: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Chagan85
      If the author denigrates the USSR, I immediately thought - this is the caliber

      ===
      someone remembers good, someone is bad, someone is different, and someone claims to be the absolute truth)
    2. kalibr
      24 August 2020 12: 05 New
      +2
      Alik, where is the blackening? I am writing about what happened. Let's do it this way: in 1980 and 1985 in all stores in the USSR there were sausages, sausages of all kinds, red and black caviar. When Gorbachev came, everything disappeared at once until he was 91. And then everything was gone !!!
      So not blackening?
  • place
    place 24 August 2020 16: 43 New
    +2
    So, the narration comes down to the memories of a serf of the 18th century that "the red master fed somehow badly ....". But the "white master" - specifically Boris Nikolayevich - at the beginning of 1992 issued a decree, from which everything changed in a week!

    The "Soviet deficit" disappeared - "anti-Soviet abundance began better than under communism." Gaidar and Chubais "saved the country from hunger," "saturated the market," while at the same time ruining economic ties, etc. A miracle equal to the biblical! Where did it all come from? One thing is surprising here; For some reason, everyone remembers the deficit a thousand times, but about the real miracle that was revealed to us in 1992, no one is anything ..... Probably, there are no instructions from the master ......... otherwise they would have gutaried.
    1. place
      place 24 August 2020 16: 49 New
      +2
      By the way, according to the modern Rosstat of the Russian Federation, meat production in the Russian Federation equaled the production of meat in the RSFSR in 1989 only by 2016 ........... And the production of dairy products in the USSR in the late 80s even exceeded this is a production in the USA ..... (at least this fact is not refuted to this day)
  • Yaik Cossack
    Yaik Cossack 24 August 2020 17: 08 New
    +3
    Finishing for a while about Peru, one cannot fail to mention the most original Peruvian dish - ceviche. It is a mixture of raw seafood or meat, marinated for a short time in a lime sauce. Ceviche is usually served in special establishments - cevicheria.

    Seafood Ceviche:
    1. Yaik Cossack
      Yaik Cossack 24 August 2020 17: 10 New
      +4
      Cevicheria



      Pacific ocean at night

      1. Yaik Cossack
        Yaik Cossack 25 August 2020 00: 48 New
        +1
        In general, our Russian food is the best. We will definitely taste the wonders, we will even praise them if they deserve them, but we love our own, dear.
        Real story. General Skobelev in Paris in a chic restaurant. The wine list is as thick as Marx's Capital. Skobelev calls the sommelier and says - everything is fine with you, but, alas, there is no one very popular drink.
        The sommelier is a Mont General, it cannot be.
        Skobelev - voila, I'll show you, bring the biggest glass.
        Brought.
        Skobelev - Pour a third of the best Russian vodka. Me and you.
        They poured it.
        Skobelev - wait.
        Waited
        Skobelev - now fill the whole glass with the same vodka.
        Filled.
        Skobelev - well, this is called "Skobeleff cocktail". Now step into the frunt (at attention)
        The sommelier stretched out.
        Skobelev got up too.
        Skobelev - Now drink to the glory of the Russian Empire and its invincible Imperial Army.
        And he drank it himself.
        This is how the Skobelev cocktail went down in history
        1. Liam
          Liam 25 August 2020 01: 06 New
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          Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
          This is how the Skobelev cocktail went down in history

          The Internet knows nothing about this "cocktail". Apparently, it is not very popular.
  • Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 25 August 2020 04: 59 New
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    Vyacheslav Olegovich, earlier, I studied with interest your article "about the life of a young specialist in the countryside."
    My parents also lived in the village by distribution for five years.
    Didn't the young teacher get the allowance? If desired, the teacher could get a loan for a personal subsidiary farm: a garden, a vegetable garden, the purchase of a cow and other animals.
    In the villages there were shops or shops of regional consumer cooperatives. There was no caviar and boiled pork, but until the second half of the 80s, butter was on sale.
    In the village, having a cow and his own milk, only the lazy will buy butter, and not beat it out of cream.
    In winter, there were hardly any quail on sale, they fly to the south.
    Neck or carbonate - types of cutting (tenderloin), nothing delicious, some gourmets value lamb or pork ribs.
    1. kalibr
      25 August 2020 07: 49 New
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      Quote: Lynx2000
      My parents also lived in the village by distribution for five years.
      Didn't the young teacher get the allowance? If desired, the teacher could get a loan for a personal subsidiary farm: a garden, a vegetable garden, the purchase of a cow and other animals.

      I answer. They paid. And we had a garden and a vegetable garden. But ... We didn't use them. In June, nothing had time to grow, and on July 6 we left until August 28 to the city and to the south, to rest.
      1. Lynx2000
        Lynx2000 25 August 2020 14: 01 New
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        Quote: kalibr

        I answer. They paid. And we had a garden and a vegetable garden. But ... We didn't use them. In June, nothing had time to grow, and on July 6 we left until August 28 to the city and to the south, to rest.

        smile
        As they say: the owner is the master. In Soviet times, the chairman of the village council fined the owners of estates, in whose orchards there were thickets of weeds and bushes.
        Cucumbers and radishes fully ripen by the beginning of July.
        Potatoes, carrots and beets by September. White cabbage generally until October.
        As a child, I hated planting, weeding, digging, gardening. But now it pulled to the ground ...
        1. kalibr
          25 August 2020 16: 07 New
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          Quote: Lynx2000
          As a child, I hated planting, weeding, digging, gardening. But now it pulled to the ground ...

          So do I. As a child, I was forced to carry water from a water column. 10 liter cans with lids. I hated this job because it took a lot of water and the garden was big. Now it is a different matter at the dacha - water is on schedule. We tried to plant, yes ... but by July 6 it did not ripen. And on the 6th we left ...
    2. kalibr
      25 August 2020 07: 50 New
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      Quote: Lynx2000
      In the villages there were shops or shops of regional consumer cooperatives. There was no caviar and boiled pork, but until the second half of the 80s, butter was on sale.
      In the village, having a cow and his own milk, only the lazy will buy butter, and not beat it out of cream.


      We didn't have such a store.
      We ourselves wondered why this is so ... But there it was!
    3. kalibr
      25 August 2020 07: 52 New
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      Quote: Lynx2000
      In winter, there were hardly any quail on sale, they fly to the south.
      Neck or carbonate - types of cutting (tenderloin), nothing delicious, some gourmets value lamb or pork ribs.

      In winter there were ptarmigan. This is even better!
      I didn't try the latter then and don't eat now.
  • pirr
    pirr 27 August 2020 21: 52 New
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    It's a pity that there are no downsides, I was born in 1981 remember that in 1987, after the start of perestroika, on the contrary, groceries disappeared from the stores, and in 1986 they bought a jar of black caviar in the store, which I still haven't tried again, there were a lot of shops with the Ocean aquarium with fish for a penny
  • Captan78
    Captan78 28 August 2020 19: 21 New
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    A very sensible article, I really was born in 1978, but I remember a lot of things from the shops in our military town in Bobruisk
    1. kalibr
      30 August 2020 21: 20 New
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      Andrei! My daughter was born at 75, but she still remembers the leaky tights, because the new ones were not "thrown away" ...
      1. Captan78
        Captan78 31 August 2020 22: 51 New
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        Life hack from the 80s, socks and tights are very convenient to darn by pulling on a light bulb)))
        1. kalibr
          1 September 2020 07: 06 New
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          Right! But we had a darning fungus from a polysander tree from Sochi. They pulled it on and darned it!
  • alekSASHKA-36
    alekSASHKA-36 27 September 2020 12: 45 New
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    Yes, poor Russians, who did not eat up citrus! The whole world was taught to eat with spoons, Gagarin was launched into space! How did the unfortunate Lomonosov manage without iodine? Well at least there are no such nutritional problems in Africa.