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"Shtora-1" or its Middle Eastern counterpart: Experts argue over the COEP option on tanks in Syria

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Earlier, materials appeared on the network that militants in Syria began to acquire anti-tank missile systems. The actual confirmation of this data was due to how Tanks Syrian government forces were knocked out not only in battles in urban areas, but also on the march through open areas.


The threat to the CAA became more and more apparent. Indeed, with an accurate ATGM strike, the troops lost not only the tank, but often the crew. And by definition, it takes a lot of time to fully train new crews.

What could be the way out? One of the obvious options is to improve the protection of armored vehicles from the same anti-tank guided missiles. An element of such improvement is the use of complexes of electronic-optical counteraction - KOEP.

To date, the tanks of the Syrian armed forces are equipped mainly with the Shtora-1 KOEP or their analogs. Some time ago, open sources on the Internet published statements that the "Curtain" for the needs of the CAA was allegedly supplied from Russia directly.

There is no official confirmation of this information. But there are photographs in the network, where, as the tankers themselves say, "curtained" combat vehicles. We are talking about T-72 tanks with a complex of electronic-optical countermeasures, similar to the "Shtora-1". One of these photos is published in Twitter account Ivan O'Gilvi.

"Shtora-1" or its Middle Eastern counterpart: Experts argue over the COEP option on tanks in Syria

However, experts argue, believing that we can talk not specifically about "Shtora-1", but its Middle Eastern counterparts. These are optical-electronic countermeasures that are already being created in Syrian workshops. It is these variants of the COEP that are installed directly on the top of the tank turret for 360-degree operation. This version of the installation of the KOEP SAA uses, since often there is no clear front line in the theater of operations - when an ATGM attack can be carried out from the rear or from the side. If you believe the statements of the Syrian tankers themselves, then this is the option for placing the complex in the absence of clear boundaries of the theater of operations and the front line as such is the most appropriate.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 16 August 2020 17: 46 New
    +2
    What is its effectiveness?
    Well, in numbers.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 August 2020 17: 48 New
    +1
    Maybe the Syrians themselves are letting out, maybe the Iranians are helping them, it is not important, but what is important is that if KOEP helps in the fight against ATGMs, it means that they need to be installed, like dynamic protection, en masse.
  3. Russ
    Russ 16 August 2020 17: 52 New
    +5
    In short .... it is clear that nothing is clear .......
    However, experts argue, believing that it may not be specifically about "Shtora-1", but its Middle Eastern counterparts.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 16 August 2020 18: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: Russia
      In short .... it is clear that nothing is clear .......

      It is clear that the system interferes with complexes with an optical coordinator. Like "Bassoon" and "Tou"
      Will not save from "Cornets" and their analogues.
      It won't save you from third-generation complexes.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 16 August 2020 19: 52 New
        +2
        And what, when launching the Cornet, the visibility of the target is not needed?
        The curtains will not help only against ATGM with a seeker, which "sees" through the applied aerosol (fumes). But this aerosol can be different in composition and properties.
        And here there is room for improvement of protection systems against optical heads, and against targeting heat, and against radar.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 16 August 2020 20: 13 New
          +1
          And what, when launching the Cornet, the visibility of the target is not needed?

          and the Curtain, according to you, makes it invisible or what?
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev 17 August 2020 07: 08 New
            0
            No, she highlights it.
            The curtain is an aerosol curtain.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 17 August 2020 09: 09 New
              +1
              When the system is turned on, the searchlights installed on the tank's turret emit modulated radiation in the optical and infrared range, and at a distance of 2-2,5 km, the operation of the optoelectronic coordinators of the ATGM guidance systems is suppressed. The coordinators receive false signals from these searchlights, and the missile receives the wrong commands, causing it to either crash into the ground or fly by.


              But the aerosol curtain is also there.
              1. Asad
                Asad 18 August 2020 13: 14 New
                0
                And if Barmaley shoots from behind?
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 18 August 2020 13: 44 New
                  0
                  Expand the tower to the radiation source?
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 August 2020 13: 43 New
          0
          Quote: Alekseev
          And what, when launching the Cornet, the visibility of the target is not needed?

          I need it.
          But do not forget that in essence "Curtain" is two systems.
          One way of working emitters interferes with systems with optical coordinators
          The second interferes with guided munitions with LGSN.

          Neither one nor the second will protect against the "Cornet". For to protect against it, it is also necessary to know the range to the attacking ammunition in order to expose the curtain in time. What, in fact, is implemented in MUSS
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 August 2020 18: 02 New
    +4
    "Curtain", alas, is not a panacea. There are still enough ATGMs with wire guidance in the ranks. Well, and about all sorts of "javelins" and Chinese clones, in general, I will not say anything ...
    1. Mik13
      Mik13 16 August 2020 23: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      "Curtain", alas, is not a panacea. There are still enough ATGMs with wire guidance in the ranks. Well, and about all sorts of "javelins" and Chinese clones, in general, I will not say anything ...

      The curtain just acts specifically on ATGMs with wire guidance. Such complexes as Cornet, with laser strobe guidance, are not sensitive to Shtora.
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 18 August 2020 00: 25 New
      +1
      "Blind", alas, is not a panacea ....... pralna, without combat protection in local conflicts, a tank is a huge pile of iron (well, all kinds of valuable materials in it). schya move the idea of ​​a long-standing about KAZ. but 40 years have passed and KAZ is still not enthusiastic until today, but the SOEP (COEP) is a topic, another thing is to detect the enemy, well, or at least a salvo of an anti-tank weapon, ... it will be easier with combat security,
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 16 August 2020 18: 49 New
    +7
    It is surprising that these homemade curtains can be found everywhere in Syria, even on carts with a machine gun.

    Are the Syrians so advanced or are we so backward?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 16 August 2020 18: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      Are the Syrians so advanced or are we so backward?

      We didn’t need it.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 16 August 2020 18: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Spade
        We didn’t need it.

        Well, ours are now in Syria, and where are the birdhouses on our equipment?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 16 August 2020 19: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: APASUS
          Well, ours are now in Syria, and where are the birdhouses on our equipment?

          Now it has arisen.
          But in fact, the "birdhouse" thing is already outdated, something like an analogue of MUSS is required
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 16 August 2020 19: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Spade
            But in fact, the "birdhouse" thing is already outdated, something like an analogue of MUSS is required

            So it turns out that ours do not have such systems in Syria
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 16 August 2020 22: 14 New
              0
              Quote: APASUS
              So it turns out that ours do not have such systems in Syria

              The question is - what systems do we have there in Syria and on what equipment?
          2. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 16 August 2020 20: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: Spade
            in fact, the "birdhouse" thing is already outdated, something like an analogue of MUSS is required

            "What do you call a yacht, so will it float?" It doesn't matter what color (breed) the cat is (!) ... as long as she catches mice! For some it is a "birdhouse", but for others it is an effective COEP! And MUSS is not a panacea! How many armies have MUSS acquired? Germany only? And MUSS "miracle worker" has its limitations! That "Curtain-1/2/3", that MUSS is one essence! "In German, tzatzki-pecki, and in Russian, a sandwich!"
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 16 August 2020 20: 14 New
      0
      Are the Syrians so advanced or are we so backward?

      Do you want to live - know how to spin
    3. Professor
      Professor 16 August 2020 20: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      It is surprising that these homemade curtains can be found everywhere in Syria, even on carts with a machine gun.

      Are the Syrians so advanced or are we so backward?

      Well done Arabs. They could not have dreamed of such a beacon before. Now you can't miss 30 km. Who advised them this? lol
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 16 August 2020 22: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Who advised them this?

        Apparently the enemy has a large number of old missiles with IR-heads guided by a laser beam? And those who follow them from 30 kilometers can hit this "beacon" - so they will get there, without any beacon ...