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US intends to deploy medium-range missiles in Asia

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US intends to deploy medium-range missiles in Asia

The United States does not rule out the deployment of medium-range missiles in the Asian region, including Japan, in the future, this possibility is being considered. This was stated by the US President's Special Representative for Arms Control Marshall Billingsley, according to the Japanese edition Nikkei.


Billingsley said the US intends to negotiate with its allies about the threat from China, which is building up its nuclear potential. Washington is convinced that US allies in Asia need American missiles on their soil to defend against the Chinese threat.

This is exactly the kind of defensive capability that countries like Japan will want and need in the future.

- said the US special representative.

Earlier, the Japanese media reported that the United States began consultations with Japan on the deployment of medium-range missiles in Japanese territory, but official Tokyo has not yet confirmed this information. US Defense Secretary Mark Esper also announced the deployment of medium-range missiles in the Asia-Pacific region.

We will remind that earlier Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia would not deploy the medium-range missiles that it has, until the moment the US starts the deployment.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 16 August 2020 08: 13 New
    +8
    Russia and China will like it and will aim a lot of good words and missiles at Japan.
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 08: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Russia and China will like it and will aim a lot of good words and missiles at Japan.

      A lot of things have been aimed at the Japs for a long time. And in China and in Russia, well, the DPRK too .. There is actually the territory of the United States !!! And Japan was allowed to re-equip its Army with offensive weapons, that's what worries
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 16 August 2020 08: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Russia and China this like it and a lot of good words and missiles will target Japan.

      Do you have a slip? request Or a joke of humor? crying
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 August 2020 09: 02 New
      +3
      It is a pity that we do not have a military base in Mexico, it was possible to deploy something there so that the United States does not seem like honey.
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 16 August 2020 10: 14 New
        +1
        There is such an anecdote: one of the furious disputants was thrown into the water, she drowns, disappeared headlong, but, putting her hand out of the water, makes movements with her fingers, confirming her rightness. So the United States: they have a huge national debt, the dollar is staggering, a significant economic recession and an increase in unemployment, the coronavirus epidemic and rampant "black democracy", their authority has fallen so much that only the Dominican Republic voted for them at the UN - and they continue to threaten the whole world, to strengthen tension and arms race. It is necessary for the true masters of America (they think that the whole world) to divert attention from internal problems, receive super-profits and feed their lackeys and servants. For the whole world, peoples, people, they, as always, do not care!
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 16 August 2020 11: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        It's a shame that we don't have a military base in Mexico

        This does not mean that they cannot be offered anything to stabilize the situation. We need to ask our American neighbors - do they need "Cavo-faq"?
        1. bayard
          bayard 16 August 2020 21: 24 New
          0
          There is Cuba and Venezuela, there is Nicaragua. But it is not a fact that modern Russia will pull such a confrontation and the content of satellites. We are now losing Berorussia, GDP (in terms of dollars) has almost halved compared to ten years ago ... Pensioners have already been made happy, at whose expense should you order a banquet?
          American CDs in Japan, this is primarily China's concern. Let them move.
          We do not have a normal fleet or transport aviation, the economy is collapsing (in terms of GDP, agriculture has grown a little, which pleases). Mainly modernized Soviet-made models are being adopted for service ... BMP-1 with a new module from BTR-82A ... T-72V3 with slots in dynamic protection ... America is falling down on its own ... and China will help it with this ...
          And we have our own game.
    4. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 16 August 2020 10: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Russia and China will like it and will aim a lot of good words and missiles at Japan.

      In addition to the Ynovsky ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 16 August 2020 08: 24 New
    +5
    That is, Russia will also receive the full moral right to deploy such complexes beyond the Urals, including the BRZhD
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 08: 34 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      That is, Russia will also receive the full moral right to deploy such complexes beyond the Urals, including the BRZhD

      Russia has such a right for a long time NATO has actually surrounded us .. Ukraine (NATO), Belarus is ablaze .. Are they not going to place rackets in Kazakhstan? Something Kazakhs have become so quiet ..
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 August 2020 09: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: Alkonavt
        Something Kazakhs have become so quiet ..

        So they still have the same "not thank God", in the northern regions there is fermentation of Cossacks and Slavs, Muslims "gossip", and next to China and Russia ...
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 16 August 2020 10: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Alkonavt
          Something Kazakhs have become so quiet ..

          So they still have the same "not thank God", in the northern regions there is fermentation of Cossacks and Slavs, Muslims "gossip", and next to China and Russia ...

          Sergey, for some reason I would like our Uralsk to be ...
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 16 August 2020 11: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: sabakina
            for some reason I want our Uralsk to be ...

            For some reason, I want the entire territory of the USSR to reunite ... And not only Uralsk.
          2. frizzy
            frizzy 16 August 2020 20: 30 New
            +1
            You probably come from Uralsk? So I tell you that we are the Uralians for this. We have long been ready to join Russia
        2. Alkonavt
          Alkonavt 16 August 2020 11: 58 New
          -2
          Quote: svp67
          So they still have the same "not thank God", in the northern regions there is fermentation of Cossacks and Slavs, Muslims "gossip", and next to China and Russia ...

          Just a huge territory "donated to the Kazakhs" feather grass is completely neglected and all locusts live there .. EVERYTHING is abandoned !!! They sit there at the oil and gas production facilities explored and rebuilt by the USSR, hehe ..

          Quote: sabakina
          Sergey, for some reason I would like our Uralsk to be ...

          So they gave it to us am ..Let it grow better with feather grass
          little Tony Blair, it is not for nothing that he is in the main advisers of Chief Bai Nursultan in the advisors. laughing It's only the beginning !
      2. RUnnm
        RUnnm 16 August 2020 11: 03 New
        +1
        Anything. Kazakhstan, well, sooooo tends to lie under China and is unlikely to agree to this placement
        1. Alkonavt
          Alkonavt 16 August 2020 12: 09 New
          -1
          Quote: RUnnm
          Anything. Kazakhstan, well, sooooo tends to lie under China and is unlikely to agree to this placement

          Well, under someone else they will have to fit .. Kazakhstan is a republic invented in the USSR, like the rest of the former .. Since the time of the Russian Empire there have been no such states, well, except for Poland ..
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 16 August 2020 20: 35 New
          0
          RUnnm, then rumors started somehow that they would lease land to the Chinese - the people clearly did not approve of this, protests began and all that. We are also striving to "lie under China", just like you - the pipelines have already been stretched. The Silk Road was built and became the "champions" in the transit of Chinese goods. We get loans and investments from there.
          The Alkonaut has obviously gone over the "green snake" There have already been "battles" when people like him deployed a NATO base in the Kazakh part of the Caspian. According to our laws, it is prohibited to deploy military bases of third countries without the approval of the CSTO countries.
          It is clear that the United States really wants to drive a wedge with us. But that's just ... they'll shut up any unsanctioned demonstration or meeting for one or two. Here we have one refugee (Ablyazov, a former minister, etc.) constantly inciting the people, so little comes out. hi
          1. RUnnm
            RUnnm 16 August 2020 22: 26 New
            0
            Thank. Very motivated opinion. No sarcasm.
        3. frizzy
          frizzy 16 August 2020 20: 39 New
          0
          No, we Kazakhs are dreaming right up to the priests to lie under the amers. We are Chinese, we ourselves are Asians
    2. vVvAD
      vVvAD 16 August 2020 17: 30 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      ... including the BRZD

      And it was very nice to know that work on the BZHRK resumed.
  3. Million
    Million 16 August 2020 08: 24 New
    -4
    Is our field marshal planning anything?
  4. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 16 August 2020 08: 26 New
    +7
    What have I missed in history !? When did China attack Japan !? Oh yes, in the last century, when 40000000 Chinese were killed, mostly civilians and all in China.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 16 August 2020 08: 39 New
      -2
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      What have I missed in history !?

      You missed the main rationale - "highlighted like". However, this is already the latest history. hi
    2. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 08: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Oh yes, in the last century, when 40000000 Chinese were killed, mostly civilians and all in China.

      All this is hushed up And the Japanese have persecuted on the territory of China, Korea and by the way Russia (during the revolution, they landed their troops) .. Hitler is just a baby with his concentration camps and other atrocities.
    3. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 16 August 2020 11: 10 New
      0
      These were the aggressive Chinese who looked askance at the samurai who were building Asia for the Asians.
    4. vVvAD
      vVvAD 16 August 2020 17: 43 New
      0
      Now the situation is different: Japan is preparing to confront China in the struggle for the disputed territories and waters around them. China is filling islands, expanding its waters in disputed regions, and arranging a WB there. Well done: they can and can smile
      But it would be a big mistake for Japan to accept the American proposal: everyone with whom they have territorial and other disputes and contradictions will react to this. China will answer in such a way that Japan will not seem a little - they simply have more resources, and now they have more military technologies. We, too, will not stand aside - in these conditions it will not be difficult to explain to the Chinese the combat duty of the BZHRK in the eastern part of the country. However, the Chinese themselves are not stupid: they have placed their launchers, apparently by mutual agreement, closer to the border with us - immediately under two missile defense umbrellas: their own off the coast and ours.
      And the US strategy is clear as daylight - Divide et impera.
      Returning to Japan: their sovereignty is conditional, the United States can push through.
  5. Asad
    Asad 16 August 2020 08: 32 New
    +3
    In the 90s, bandits also offered me protection from other bandits, so I really need, protection ,,!
    1. frizzy
      frizzy 16 August 2020 20: 36 New
      0
      Poorly offered !!! Eh, if I offered, then you would not devil take it.
  6. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 16 August 2020 08: 36 New
    -1
    Washington is convinced that US allies in Asia need American missiles on their soil to defend against the Chinese threat.

    Whether the "US allies" themselves are convinced of this is an open question. therefore
    US intends to negotiate with allies about the threat from China
    ... Sanctions will convince.
  7. sabakina
    sabakina 16 August 2020 08: 51 New
    -5
    This is exactly the kind of defensive ability.that countries like Japan will want and need in the future
    I don’t understand a little, do they want to shoot down Chinese tactical nuclear weapons with medium-range missiles? And what if the Chinese programmed that it would explode when TNW hit?
    1. vVvAD
      vVvAD 16 August 2020 17: 58 New
      0
      No - it is a weapon of deterrence and attack. Not to be confused with missile defense - completely different missiles.
      And what if the Chinese programmed that it would explode when TNW hit?

      Anti-aircraft missiles, you know, do not hit the missile in the forehead - if you are talking about outdated contact fuses - they damage the missile in the engine or control compartment, tanks (as for kinetic, fragmentation simply damage), and at such a speed it disintegrates in the air, neither what initiation of an explosion in such a situation is out of the question. Modern cruise missiles, IRBMs and BMBMs are not made in the same dimension to have powerful all-aspect radars to detect other missiles and track their course. Even ICBMs do not have such capabilities - otherwise they would have turned, first of all, into excellent targets for guidance by means of RTR and, secondly, into useless blanks with warheads of very conventional efficiency.
  8. sedoj
    sedoj 16 August 2020 09: 05 New
    0
    So we need to build bridges with Cuba again.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 16 August 2020 09: 07 New
      0

      sedoj (Yuri)
      Today, 09: 05
      NEW
      0
      So we need to build bridges with Cuba again.
      It's high time.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 16 August 2020 09: 36 New
        -1
        And don't forget about Venezuela
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 16 August 2020 09: 43 New
          -4
          The cobalt bomb on its territory, as a Doomsday weapon, decides everything ..
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 16 August 2020 09: 45 New
            0
            Better, of course, on someone else's wassat Actually, the Americans are doing this - they substitute allies in full.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 16 August 2020 11: 11 New
      -1
      Quote: sedoj
      So we need to build bridges with Cuba again.

      Perhaps even on an equal footing with China. Let them also build a base with "Dongfeng" there.
    3. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 16 August 2020 11: 18 New
      -1
      It is known from the course of dialectical materialism that development proceeds in a spiral. It's time, it's time ... If the missiles had remained in Cuba, the USSR, quite possibly, would not have disintegrated. Here our dear Nikita Sergeevich gave a few blunders. It is still further from Adana to the Kremlin than from Cuba to Miami. Before the White House - comparable.
      1. sedoj
        sedoj 16 August 2020 11: 25 New
        0
        I don't think the White House is the target of our missiles. All the same, the flight time of the missiles allows you to leave it in an emergency mode. Most likely the Pentagon at Langley.
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 August 2020 09: 06 New
    -1
    "Washington is convinced that the US allies in Asia need American missiles on their territory ..." (c) what How is Cuba? Doesn't need Russian missiles yet? Moreover, the trailer usually comes with various nice things.
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 August 2020 09: 06 New
    +1
    Washington is convinced that US allies in Asia need American missiles on their soil to defend against the Chinese threat.
    and the "US allies in Asia" of the same opinion? laughing
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 16 August 2020 09: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      and the "US allies in Asia" of the same opinion?

      And who will ask them? laughing The mattresses will say - "Who will not obey, will get Hiroshima-2 again."
      PS- Although, if you resignedly follow in the mainstream of American policy, the Japanese will still get Hiroshima sooner or later.
    2. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 16 August 2020 11: 18 New
      0
      They all rejoice in full delight.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 16 August 2020 09: 21 New
    +3
    Well, congratulations. That's the main goal of the destruction of the INF Treaty by the Americans! It's time to start mastering detailed systems for us in Primorye. The Americans are now nodding at China, and in fact, half of our territory will be defeated.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 16 August 2020 10: 03 New
      +1
      I agree. There is still a moment. A large number of MRBMs of China, which are in fact anti-ship missiles and in any case are sharpened by the sweat of the AUG of the USA, Japan ...
  12. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 August 2020 09: 27 New
    0
    And probably all this will be at the expense of those countries where the missiles will be installed ...
    It will be interesting to look at China's reaction.
  13. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 16 August 2020 09: 32 New
    +1
    Since when did medium-range missiles become defensive weapons? If my senile memory does not change, they have always been a means of preemptive strike.
  14. Shiden
    Shiden 16 August 2020 09: 51 New
    -6
    Washington's politicians are already giving a clear hint to the PRC that if they do not sit down at the negotiating table on a three-sided reduction of nuclear weapons, then an analogue of Asian NATO will appear. development of its nuclear programs. China is driving itself into a political dead end, because it is easier to negotiate with one than with several countries, although neither China nor Russia understands this.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 16 August 2020 11: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Shiden
      Washington's politicians are already giving a clear hint to the PRC that if they do not sit down at the negotiating table on three-sided nuclear arms reductions, then an analogue of the Asian NATO will appear.

      It already formally exists - Japan, South Caucasus, Thailand, Brunei + ANZUS countries ... (American and / or British troops are stationed on the territory of these countries) ...
      And if after that, China does not understand the hint, the US will give the go-ahead to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea to develop their nuclear programs.

      It is necessary for the United States, the United States itself restrains the missile programs of the South Caucasus and Japan, it is clear that you are not reading periodicals ...
      China is driving itself into a political dead end, because it is easier to negotiate with one than with several countries.

      With whom to negotiate with the United States? Agreements concluded with the United States do not cost the money of the paper itself on which the agreement is written ...
      Although this is not understood either in China or in Russia.

      The Russian Federation and the PRC understand that most of its neighbors have short and medium-range BR / KR, and the Russian Federation has not even begun to supply them to its troops ...
      If Japan wants to see Russian short and medium-range ballistic missiles / missile systems at their side, God help ...
      1. Shiden
        Shiden 16 August 2020 13: 14 New
        0
        That's exactly what I read the pireodic, and what do you think, who is keeping Japan, Taiwan, South Korea from the arms race is clearly not Beijing and Moscow. Formally, explain how, as far as I know, there are treaties on the defense of the United States and some states, but there is no collective agreement. Give an example where the United States does not comply with the treaty. Well, the latter just amused me, it turns out that the Calibers, Dongfens, Iskanders are the fruit of propaganda and all this is not there.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 16 August 2020 13: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Shiden
          The latter just amused me, it turns out that the Caliber, Dongfens, Iskanders are the fruit of propaganda and all this is not there. Give an example where the US does not comply with the treaty.

          What you have listed - SLCM calibers, Iskander OTR and the INF Treaty have nothing to do with ...
          But these include in terms of their performance characteristics the anti-missiles deployed by the United States in Europe ....
          As for the Chinese anti-ship ballistic missile "Dongfeng-21D"
          https://topwar.ru/36969-kitayskaya-kazn-protivokorabelnaya-ballisticheskaya-raketa-dunfen-21d.html
          Then the PRC is not a party to the INF Treaty, so it did not violate anything ...
          The INF Treaty was initially beneficial only to the United States, with the advent of the Russian Federation of sea carriers of the KR MB, it has lost its relevance, in addition, the military power of the PLA has increased, which must be parried ...
          The same can be said about the ABM Treaty, which became irrelevant after the PLA and KPA had ICBMs capable of reaching the United States ...
          1. Shiden
            Shiden 16 August 2020 14: 27 New
            0
            Well, you yourself understood what you wrote. I didn’t know that interceptor missiles were already considered an attack weapon, so why are they called that. And I did not say that the PRC is violating, just if you carefully read my comment, I pointed out that the PRC does not want to sit at the negotiating table. But when China's neighbors and Russia have neighbors with nuclear weapons, then there will immediately be a cry that America is to blame. That is the mistake of all urapatriots, that no one wants to think about the aftermath.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 16 August 2020 14: 48 New
              +1
              Quote: Shiden
              Well, you yourself understood what you wrote. I didn’t know that interceptor missiles were already considered an attack weapon, so why are they called that.

              They are only in the name of the anti-missile, but they have the performance characteristics of the RMSD ...
              And I did not say that the PRC is violating, just if you carefully read my comment, I pointed out that the PRC does not want to sit at the negotiating table.

              I read it carefully, I don’t understand why the US didn’t invite India, Pakistan, comrade Eun ... to the negotiating table?
              It would be logical to link the INF Treaty with all the countries that possess them, as well as the renewal of the ABM Treaty ....
              The United States does not give any guarantees to the PRC that the United States will not attack the PRC ...
              I understand the United States if the PLA was located in Canada and Mexico and threatened the security of the United States, but for now, just the opposite, the US WB is located at the neighbors of the PRC ...
              The PRC looked at the experience of the USSR and did not want to limit its shock capabilities, trusting, like the USSR in its time in the United States, the party leadership of the CPC is less visibly corrupt than the party leadership of the USSR, which surrendered all the achievements of the USSR in the Second World War ...
              But when will China's neighbors and Russia have neighbors with nuclear weapons?
              , Pakistan, India, North Korea and Israeli Jews are closer to the Russian Federation than to the United States .... however, they are not going to leave the "nuclear club" in the next 1000 years ....
              1. Shiden
                Shiden 16 August 2020 16: 08 New
                -1
                According to the performance characteristics, the C400 and C500 also, in your opinion, fall under the RMSD agreement or not, but I see such a feeling here I don't see it, but here the fish were wrapped up. Well, in the USA they just sleep like that and see how to attack a billion-dollar China. But China's pretensions to its neighbors periodically reveals what, in your opinion, Japan or Taiwan should do. Here is an example of the DPRK, when neither China nor the USSR gave security guarantees, KIM ER SENU brought the DPRK to the nuclear club. And now imagine what will happen when the US refuses from such guarantees in relation to allies. I assure you that the world will be replenished with several more countries with nuclear weapons. And where there is a guarantee that nuclear weapons will not be used.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 16 August 2020 16: 16 New
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                  Quote: Shiden
                  And where is the guarantee that nuclear weapons will not be used.

                  So far, only the United States has used nuclear weapons against peaceful cities ... but for some reason they are afraid everyone should China and the Russian Federation, where is the logic ....?
                  In terms of performance characteristics, S400 and S500 also, in your opinion, fall under the RMSD agreement or not

                  By no means.
                  But China's pretensions to its neighbors periodically reveals what, in your opinion, Japan or Taiwan should do.

                  Let it be presented, a free country ts ... Taiwan is generally not recognized by anyone, and on the Japanese islands the US WB ...
                  According to your logic, Spain should also start creating nuclear weapons, due to the fact that Great Britain does not return Gibraltar to it ...
                  Now, just imagine what will happen when the United States abandons such guarantees in relation to its allies.

                  Either they will behave more modestly, or they will find another ally ...
                  1. Shiden
                    Shiden 16 August 2020 17: 23 New
                    -1
                    And neither of which the United States and the Japanese Empire have fought a priori for four years, this implies that the word peaceful is not clever here, but the word enemy is more pleasing. After all, this term is suitable for Berlin, 41 years old, but a peaceful city and Soviet aviation bombed it, that's where it is. logic. That is, that the C400 and C500 are considered anti-missiles, and the American system is not such, and this is only based on the name alone. At the expense of Gibraltar, Spain and England are guided by this logic, and therefore they have not been at war for 200 years. It's more modest as if Beijing wants to return Okinawa or the North of Vietnam or Korea, once these territories were vassals of the Celestial Empire, then you need to give up and generally be silent.
            2. Lionnvrsk
              Lionnvrsk 17 August 2020 10: 49 New
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              no one about the aftermath

              Excuse me, but what is your native language? winked
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 August 2020 10: 01 New
    0
    This is exactly the kind of defensive capability that countries like Japan will want and need in the future.

    Well said. In principle, any of the players there: Japan, Korea, India - can create and deploy an MRBM. And China has a bunch of them.
  16. Rostislav
    Rostislav 16 August 2020 10: 11 New
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    All these shitcrats are so preoccupied with containment, so preoccupied ... That after a while they come straight to your house to "contain".
    Finish out.
  17. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 16 August 2020 10: 27 New
    0
    The United States does not rule out the deployment of medium-range missiles in the Asian region, including Japan, in the future, such a possibility is being considered.

    And this is yet another confirmation of the treacherous policy of Marked Judas on the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and those who tried to merge the Kuril Islands together with the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to Japan, and therefore to the American "partners".
  18. AML
    AML 16 August 2020 10: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Shiden
    Washington's politicians are already giving a clear hint to the PRC that if they do not sit down at the negotiating table on a three-sided reduction of nuclear weapons, then an analogue of Asian NATO will appear. development of its nuclear programs. China is driving itself into a political dead end, because it is easier to negotiate with one than with several countries, although neither China nor Russia understands this.


    The US has made a lot of effort lately to prove that it is not negotiable. Therefore, they can send verbal and written hints as much as they like.
  19. bald
    bald 16 August 2020 12: 22 New
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    The discussion is ridiculous and the most interesting thing is that everyone understands everything, but at least thousands of bases, according to the regulations, we will destroy them within 7 minutes.
  20. RVAPatriot
    RVAPatriot 16 August 2020 12: 55 New
    0
    Iran is no longer a threat ???
  21. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 16 August 2020 13: 39 New
    +1
    Eun immediately pulled out proof of his superiority from wide trousers)))
  22. Old26
    Old26 16 August 2020 15: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    That is, Russia will also receive the full moral right to deploy such complexes beyond the Urals, including the BRZhD

    We have. But what's the point in such SD systems beyond the Urals? If only the goal is China and Japan. From the territory of the United States, only Alaska is under threat ...

    Quote: sedoj
    So we need to build bridges with Cuba again.

    And Cuba wants to be “target number 1”. Fidel is gone, and the current government is not as revolutionary as it was under Fidel. Therefore, the base and troops in Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua are wet dreams ...

    Quote: Snail N9
    The cobalt bomb on its territory, as a Doomsday weapon, decides everything ..

    And what, while radioactive fallout will fall on the territory of the United States? Or maybe in our ancestral territory? Are you suicidal? After all, even as a Doomsday weapon, it would rather finish off the population of Russia than harm the United States.

    Quote: abrakadabre
    Perhaps even on an equal footing with China. Let them also build a base with "Dongfeng" there.

    Do you think the Chinese are round and .diots? To build a missile base at a distance of a hundred kilometers from the United States, especially now, with modern technology - well, here you have to be an exceptionally gifted candidate retin

    Quote: Nikolai Korovin
    It is known from the course of dialectical materialism that development proceeds in a spiral. It's time, it's time ... If the missiles had remained in Cuba, the USSR, quite possibly, would not have disintegrated. Here our dear Nikita Sergeevich gave a few blunders. It is still further from Adana to the Kremlin than from Cuba to Miami. Before the White House - comparable.

    If we left the missiles there, in Cuba, I am afraid that they would be hit. Yes, several missiles may have had time to take off, but taking into account the ratio of nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles, the Soviet Union would not have disintegrated. It would simply cease to exist ... This is how Nikita Sergeevich's adventure "to put a hedgehog in the pants of the Americans" could have ended.

    Quote: APASUS
    It's time to start mastering detailed complexes in Primorye

    For a start, it would be nice to start producing them. Having completely slowed down the rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy with new missiles ...

    Quote: Zaurbek
    I agree. There is still a moment. A large number of MRBMs of China, which are in fact anti-ship missiles and in any case are sharpened by the sweat of the AUG of the USA, Japan ...

    A large number of? That is, a brigade of 18-27 launchers, which can shoot exclusively at ships standing in the base, and not at moving AUG - that's a lot. You would read how many MRBMs the Chinese have and how many of them are in the anti-ship missile version, but you would not shout ...

    Quote: Shiden
    That's exactly what I read the pireodic, and what do you think, who is keeping Japan, Taiwan, South Korea from the arms race is clearly not Beijing and Moscow.

    I can't say anything about Japan and Taiwan, but as for South Korea, it has a bilateral agreement with the United States on missiles. Now the Americans have allowed the Southerners to have missiles with a certain range and payload. Under the 2012 agreement, the southerners had the right to create missiles with a range of 300 km and a payload of 2 tons, a range of 500 km and a load of 1 ton, a range of 800 km and a load of 500 kg.
    With the 2017 agreement, the numbers have changed. Now they are entitled to missiles with a range of 800 km and a load of 2 tons. Accordingly, with a load of 1 ton and 0,5 tons, these missiles will already be medium-range missiles.

    Quote: Shiden
    Well, the last ones just amused me, it turns out that the Calibers, Dongfens, Iskanders are the fruit of propaganda and all this is not there.

    There is another, absolutely opposite point of view, when each of these systems is considered another "wunderwaffe" and they are going to shoot from Kamchatka at Japan with "Caliber" with a range of 2500 km (that is, nuclear), while they do not think about the question of where it is with such a guidance and navigation system will fall. But this is not the main thing, the main thing is to show that we can shoot the Caliber at 2500 km.

    Quote: bald
    The discussion is ridiculous and the most interesting thing is that everyone understands everything, but at least thousands of bases, according to the regulations, we will destroy them within 7 minutes.

    Urya can you shout already? Or wait a bit ??? You must be a secret Nobel laureate in physics and a secret physicist, since you know how the flowе 7 minutes to destroy the US base to which the rocket can fly for half an hour ???
  23. sen
    sen 16 August 2020 17: 13 New
    +2
    The Japanese abandoned the American missile defense system. It is quite possible to give up cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. Otherwise, ours can, for a start, place Iskanders with nuclear warheads on the Kuril Islands.
  24. Old26
    Old26 16 August 2020 22: 38 New
    +3
    Quote: sen
    The Japanese abandoned the American missile defense system. It is quite possible to give up cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. Otherwise, ours can, for a start, place Iskanders with nuclear warheads on the Kuril Islands.

    They abandoned the deployment of Aegis Ashur rather than an entirely American missile defense system. At least THAAD they agree to post. Placement of Aegis Ashur - what's the point when Japan has its own missiles of this type.

    Placing nuclear missiles on the islands is a very wise decision. probably so that any artillery shell could smash these installations.
    And by the way, you have never heard that Iskanders are military-grade systems. Where will the Iskanders come from to place them on the islands. The placement limit has been completely exhausted. And in order for it to appear, it is necessary to make a decision to have TWO brigades in the army, and not ONE. And they will be produced for a very, very long time, because the plant is not rubber and it will be necessary to abandon either new missiles of the Strategic Missile Forces, or new missiles for boats, or not at all to start making medium-range missiles. Which option would you choose in order to put Iskander on the Kuril Islands ???