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Polish readers announced the possibility of a repetition of Ceausescu's fate for Lukashenka

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One of the most discussed topics in Polish newspapers was the topic related to the events in Belarus. Large Polish publications publish materials that tell about the statements of Alexander Lukashenko about what is happening. The greatest resonance was caused by the statement of Lukashenka that in the course of a telephone conversation with the President of Russia he had agreed to coordinate actions.


The Polish edition of Do Rzeczy quotes the phrase of the Belarusian president:

I have said this many times. I just want to say it again. We will not give the country to anyone. We will take control of the situation. Located in the heart of Europe, we must always be ready to meet any challenge at the right time.

It is noteworthy how the situation in Belarus and Lukashenka's statements are commented on by Polish readers. Here are some comments. These comments, as can be judged, are often diametrically opposed in message and political meaning.

Tępe robole

They think they are fighting for freedom, but in reality they are fighting to eliminate jobs. It's amazing what online propaganda can do to crowd heads.

Sumper

Rather, tell me that you will not give up the country. But this is not your country, but the country of the Belarusian people. If you (Lukashenko - note "VO") betray him, you will end up like Ceausescu.

Szelest sałaty

In the media, I see how the police beat people up. But I do not live in Belarus, so I will be careful in my estimates. The Western media also write about Poland that the human rights situation is bad. There is an economic and moral ice rink in Europe, and this is bad for Belarus. In their place, I would be careful. We must take care of the authorities that will not place Russian military bases on the border with Poland. If we can get Belarus out of the hands of the Russians, it will be good news.

One of the Polish readers writes that it is necessary to carefully study the situation in Belarus. According to the reader, the protests in Belarus could have been orchestrated so that the oligarchy could get to power and to key enterprises in the country.

Gazda

I certainly don't like Lukashenka for his Soviet views. But the oligarchs are torn to Belarus - the same ones who once crushed Poland under themselves.

jacco

He hopes for help from Russia, but in the end he will still face the fate of the Romanian dictator.
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  1. Alkonavt
    Alkonavt 16 August 2020 07: 44 New
    15
    Poles are dreaming about it and their dream is already starting to come true, but there is one big "BUT" .. This is Russia!
    And experience is the son of difficult mistakes and the genius of paradoxes is a friend!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 16 August 2020 07: 55 New
      11
      Polish readers announced the possibility of a repetition of Ceausescu's fate for Lukashenka

      Polish wet dreams! You can't get so excited, it can end badly. yes
      Better to think about themselves: this year, the end of the subsidy to Poland from the EU. Let's see how you sing later! yes
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 16 August 2020 08: 03 New
        17
        One of the Polish readers writes that the protests in Belarus could have been orchestrated so that the oligarchy could get to the authorities and to key enterprises in the country.

        This is the most correct assumption!
        1. Alkonavt
          Alkonavt 16 August 2020 08: 11 New
          15
          Quote: Tatiana
          One of the Polish readers writes that the protests in Belarus could have been orchestrated so that the oligarchy could get to the authorities and to key enterprises in the country.

          This is the most correct assumption!

          Do you know how Tatiana is our clever girl, to highlight the main essence of everything that happens ..
          From MAZ, they will create a MAN with a screwdriver assembly, and then they will close it altogether .. Well, let alone BelAZ (10% of the world production of heavy Samoslavs) So, in general, the Shopping Center will be made entertaining ..
          1. Puler
            Puler 16 August 2020 09: 03 New
            +5
            somewhere I've already seen this scenario ... unfortunately ...
            1. Alkonavt
              Alkonavt 16 August 2020 09: 19 New
              18
              Quote: Puler
              somewhere I've already seen this scenario ... unfortunately ...

              And you are not alone!

              In 1998, modern strategists are slaughtering in Ukraine on behalf of the United States.
              Of the 16, Russia managed to save 8 on account of its gas debt.
              Well, about "Antonov" and Motor Sich generally keep quiet .. For a long time the crow flies there croaking, as well as over the entire outskirts. am
              1. Avior
                Avior 16 August 2020 10: 06 New
                +8
                The Nunn-Lugar program to destroy the remnants of Soviet weapons.
                Destroyed under the program from 1991 to 2012
                ... As of October 2012, during the program, according to information from the website of Richard Lugar, 7610 nuclear warheads were deactivated (the plan for 2017 is 9265). Destroyed [4] [2]:

                902 intercontinental ballistic missiles,
                498 silo launchers,
                191 mobile launcher,
                33 nuclear submarines,
                684 ballistic missile submarines,
                906 air-to-ground missiles with nuclear warheads,
                155 bombers,
                194 nuclear test tunnels.
          2. snucerist
            snucerist 16 August 2020 11: 39 New
            -1
            And daddy for the state BelAZ, therefore, will lay his bones? Will he fight to the last?
            We are watching news on Belarusian resources, in particular, Lukashenka's annual message to the Belarusian people and parliament on April 19, 2019. Direct speech of the patriot:
            “I’m ready to sell Belaruskali today. I calculated and named the price - $ 30 billion. But nobody wants to. They want to buy Belaruskali from me in Russia, China, America, everywhere. But for $ 5 billion. Nobody will sell it $ 5 billion, $ 30 billion - please.
            I am ready to sell both BelAZ and MAZ. But you have to pay a price that satisfies the owner. "
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 16 August 2020 16: 35 New
              +5
              Quote: snucerist
              And daddy for the state BelAZ, therefore, will lay his bones? Will he fight to the last?

              It doesn't matter who will lie for him, the main thing is that his (Plant's) days are numbered ...
              Fair comment in the article of the Polish woman:
              They think they are fighting for freedom, but in reality fighting to eliminate jobs.

              I will add from myself, Belarusians are fighting against access to the labor market of the Russian Federation, so without the pro-Russian government in the Republic of Belarus, Belarusians are not needed in the Russian Federation ...
          3. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 16 August 2020 11: 42 New
            +8
            Well, as for BelAZ (10% of the world production of heavy Samoslavs). In general, the Shopping Center will be made entertaining ..

            They will definitely do it. Even if they don't doubt it. First, they will modernize, for which it will be necessary to issue shares, well, or invest money - small, but certainly all Western, for which a representative of an American office will necessarily enter the board of directors (well, figs with him, Polish, German, eeee-Estonian). Then they recognize BelAZ as "shit" old and unnecessary (the vaccine is Russian "shit" though it has not harmed anyone, why the Belarusian BelAZ should not be such.) They will open a line for the production of nipples for tires "Goodyear" and carefully - for a year, the production of secondary parts for BelAZ will be curtailed. Further, the plant itself will die. The people will come out a couple of times, and then they will be outraged, and then they will go to look for a new job with the words "The old master was bad, and the new one in general - piiiiiiiiip". Or come up with your own story ...

            Belarusians. Teach and retrain modern history well. Draw conclusions. For your country, scenarios have long been developed and are somewhere in the safes in the Pentagon (including).
            Give slack and tear your clean country for a year into Polish and non-Polish. And they will start playing off with slogans and photographs. And your southern neighbor will teach you quickly.
        2. Eragon
          Eragon 16 August 2020 08: 12 New
          -15
          Quote: Tatiana
          One of the Polish readers writes that the protests in Belarus could have been orchestrated so that the oligarchy could get to the authorities and to key enterprises in the country.

          This is the most correct assumption!

          The inconsistency. We have one oligarch - Lukashenko.
          1. Romka
            Romka 16 August 2020 08: 38 New
            -21
            The Russians do not know about this, so I like to read conspiracy opuses here.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 16 August 2020 08: 42 New
              16
              Quote: Eragon
              The inconsistency. We have one oligarch - Lukashenko.
              There is a national bourgeoisie and there is a comprador bourgeoisie.

              REFERENCE
              The comprador bourgeoisie is the conciliatory part of the bourgeoisie of the colonial and dependent countries, mediating between foreign capital and the local market and helping foreign imperialists to plunder the country.

              Since the national capitalist Lukashenka does not allow the sale of Belarus and the plundering of the country by Western investors - that is, does not allow the seizure of Belarusian strategic state assets and transfer them into private hands to foreigners, then the Belarusian compradors, on the initiative of the collective West and the United States, arranged the Belarusian one " Maidan "in the interests of American globalists to remove Lukashenka from the presidency of Belarus.
              Lukashenka has a "mole" in his entourage, giving him harmful pro-Western advice to maneuver according to the principle "both ours and yours" in order to sit on two chairs.
              1. PalBor
                PalBor 16 August 2020 10: 25 New
                11
                Moreover, he himself appointed this "mole" named Makei in order to flirt with the West. Alas, "President's mistake".
                1. Clear
                  Clear 16 August 2020 11: 36 New
                  +7
                  Quote: PalBor
                  Moreover, he himself appointed this "mole" named Makei in order to flirt with the West. Alas, "President's mistake".

                  He flirts with them, and the West plays with him for high stakes. Didn't the lessons with Milosevic and Yanukovych go to him for the future? fool
              2. Michael HORNET
                Michael HORNET 16 August 2020 11: 36 New
                +4
                So this is the whole question about the viability of the “national Belarusian economy” in the modern world. If your entire economy owes its existence to the sales market in Russia, and you “both yours and ours” - then from the point of view of the one who provides you with YOUR sales market (although you could develop your own producers) - you are, to put it mildly, approx.
                There is no right or wrong. There are interests of certain groups, individuals, nations. The multi-vector kolkhoz ideology, which Luka professed, cracked and became like an ass ... plus the thirst for unlimited power also contributed its role. When you had to feel it in advance and already make a choice
                Therefore, the issue with Belarus is as follows - "multi-vector" policy has exhausted itself as a phenomenon. It will not work further to sit on two chairs, and you need to take real steps either in one direction or the other. But Luka CANNOT do it for psychological reasons, because he himself is a Russophobe inside, but the West also scares him. Therefore, he sabotaged the Union State (although when it got hot - somehow he quickly remembered about it in order to get buns) and raised zmagars. Well, he raised him - so now Poland has become closer to the idea of ​​the Grand Duchy of Lithuania or the Commonwealth as never before. Hated by the people and with the "support" of his western neighbors, who very competently muddy the waters in the Republic of Belarus, Luka will not last long on his own. And although he smiles pretendingly and “enlisted help” from a neighbor from the East, you will have to pay for it. And will there be enough courage to really show it. To promise is one thing, but to introduce tanks is quite another. The "neighbor from the East" did not have enough eggs to send troops when they had to be brought in and taken their own in a neighboring country, as soon as the holder of the foreign common fund arrived - so we saw the king's shaking knees and hands and a complete change in the previous rhetoric. And there will also be. The common thing is so and lies in the Swiss banks and in the bank of the Vatican. They will object that they say ".. our" And what, now a rat should be proud of eating cheese in a mousetrap? Have you heard about Gambit as a chess device? They gave not theirs, but acquired the whole country 404 forever and in exactly the role in which it was necessary. And now the split of the trinity is deepened and, in fact, the second stone has been chipped off, it is just that it has not yet been completely pushed back.

                This is, in fact, a preface.
                "Russian civilization" everything. It just has to be admitted. Western civilization succeeded in the previously unthinkable - to split the "Russian people" forever and pull into its orbit two European parts of it, which, under the influence of 30 years of propaganda, believed that they were independent peoples, and those that live in eRef are generally Asians and the Horde and to them, European-born, have nothing to do.
                But the root of the problem of this situation is not in Belarus, the root of the problem is in the regime in the eRef, where the mafia is openly ruled by the mafia and all the ideological work with neighboring elites was “let's steal together”. There is no ideology, no development project, no unification project, nothing but a desire to steal more.
                It is possible to unite anew now only on the basis of some common idea, but this requires a new type of person, a new idea, a new civilizational mission, new leaders, a new elite.
                Moreover, there were some developments on this score, and even the prototype of this new person - the cultural phenomenon “Soviet man” - actually existed. But this layer was erased by propaganda from both sides - the mafia inside and Western civilization outside, as it was the enemy of both.
                Now this idea of ​​a new world, a new platform for unification, a new Civilization is personified by Hyperborea - the civilization of the Spirit, people of a new type, for whom the cult of consumption and acquisitiveness does not constitute the core of being, but the main meaning in knowledge and creative development. But there are still few of them, and these people are dangerous for Western consumer capitalism.
                1. Grits
                  Grits 17 August 2020 06: 26 New
                  0
                  Ukraine screams about the desire to grab the Kuban
                  Poland talks openly about Greater Poland from sea to sea
                  The Japanese are not shy when broadcasting about the Northern Territories.
                  the Turks are pursuing an outspoken policy in the restoration of the Ottoman Empire.
                  And only Russia, having mumbled something about national bonds, looks back cowardly, afraid to declare its claims to its own. Afraid of shouting from Washington and Brussels, afraid of being accused of imperial ambitions.
                  Shame. This is not how great powers do. Either we no longer rank ourselves among them, or we need to act tough and purposefully, or recognize ourselves as weaklings and a third-rate country.
              3. Lelek
                Lelek 16 August 2020 11: 48 New
                +4
                Quote: Tatiana
                Lukashenka has a "mole" in his entourage, giving him harmful pro-Western advice to maneuver according to the principle "both ours and yours" in order to sit on two chairs.

                hi
                You are right with a small amendment - not one mole, but a whole brood, which the LAS fed with its milk and which in their "Wishlist" outgrew their "dad". In order not to follow the path of Yanukovych or Ceausescu Al. Grygorych needs to thoroughly clean and disinfect his government "chambers" and activate the electorate who voted for him, and at the same time stop pouring slop on his ally - the Russian Federation (don't spit in the well ...).
              4. venik
                venik 16 August 2020 11: 54 New
                +3
                Quote: Tatiana
                Lukashenka has a "mole" in his entourage, giving him harmful pro-Western advice to maneuver according to the principle "both ours and yours" in order to sit on two chairs.

                =========
                A controversial statement ..... Very controversial ..... Maybe there is, of course, a "mole" or "moles" ... Or maybe not - maybe "father" and his mind came up with such a policy (it hurts he is a man authoritarian - such people usually do not listen to other people's opinions!). In principle, for the head of a small country with extremely limited resources and potential, and even located in the "borderland" between powerful "players", such a position is not something "out of the ordinary", so, since ancient times, many have already done so. So, that something new he did not come up with. Here are just "to sit on one seat on 2 chairs" - rarely anyone succeeded (especially when the chairs are moving apart).
                Here there is another danger - as an extremely authoritarian personality, he not only does not prepare a successor for himself, but on the contrary eliminates all STRONG politicians in every possible way. But he - not forever and far from young! And then what (in the sense of "after")? Catastrophe? How many such examples were there! The largest corporations were collapsing, but that corporations are POWERFUL STATES!
              5. Alber alber
                Alber alber 16 August 2020 23: 42 New
                +1
                The mole's name is Maki and his team, they drove a wave to Russia, but the cockroach is always happy to yell at us, the size of the freebie is less and less from year to year
            2. Clear
              Clear 16 August 2020 11: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: Romka
              The Russians do not know about this, so I like to read conspiracy opuses here.

              And, all the same, the site is more interesting for the "ignorant" than for the "knowledgeable" pshek and knowledgeable !? Then you are here fighting in earnest before lights out and after wink
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 16 August 2020 11: 43 New
                +5
                Quote: Clear
                Quote: Romka
                The Russians do not know about this, so I like to read conspiracy opuses here.

                And, all the same, the site is more interesting for the "ignorant" than for the "knowledgeable" pshek and knowledgeable !? Then you are here fighting in earnest before lights out and after

                Penence must be worked out according to the tasks set. Even at 3 am. The Pole's card is not given for nothing ...
                wassat
                1. Clear
                  Clear 16 August 2020 11: 50 New
                  +4
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Quote: Clear
                  Quote: Romka
                  The Russians do not know about this, so I like to read conspiracy opuses here.

                  And, all the same, the site is more interesting for the "ignorant" than for the "knowledgeable" pshek and knowledgeable !? Then you are here fighting in earnest before lights out and after

                  Penence must be worked out according to the tasks set. Even at 3 am. The Pole's card is not given for nothing ...
                  wassat

                  Who doubts that in order to obtain "a number of Polish rights of a non-civil nature," they will sell my mother.
            3. V1er
              V1er 16 August 2020 12: 23 New
              -1
              The Russians do not know about this, so I like to read conspiracy opuses here.

              Well, first of all, not Russians, but Russians. And secondly, these are not our words, but a direct quote from the Polish commentary! It is the Poles who write to you that your oligarchy is striving for power, just as the oligarchs cleaned up everything in Poland. The Pole writes!
              1. Alber alber
                Alber alber 16 August 2020 23: 44 New
                0
                Why Russians, I am a Tatar and a Russian, why is this in the first place?
                1. V1er
                  V1er 17 August 2020 04: 29 New
                  0
                  In this case, that comment was in a derogatory sense. Therefore, the word carried a negative color for me. And why is not a Tatar Russian? drinks All of you have long been our relatives. I didn’t want to hurt this respected people! Peace brother!
                  1. Alber alber
                    Alber alber 17 August 2020 23: 30 New
                    0
                    Peace of course, but still we are Russians, not Russians, well, we have stood and will stand for Russia.
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          3. Alkonavt
            Alkonavt 16 August 2020 09: 22 New
            +4
            Quote: Eragon
            The inconsistency. We have one oligarch - Lukashenko.

            A familiar phrase .. How many personal accounts does he have abroad or in general? If there were, they would have raised such a howl .. So there is no need to drive la la here! negative
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 16 August 2020 11: 57 New
              -2
              Quote: Alkonavt
              If there were, there would be such a howl ...

              hi
              Surely not the LAS itself (a), but the offspring. He is too cautious in this respect - the school of the Soviet agronomist. But through the assets of the children, he can be pinched, if the vice has not already been lubricated. This once again confirms the axiom - "keep your money in a savings bank" (C).
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 16 August 2020 12: 24 New
              +1
              We did not find any accounts at the GDP either. But they boldly draw him a fortune of tens of billions of raccoons.
        3. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 16 August 2020 11: 14 New
          +3
          I especially liked the news:
          The general director of the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant (MZKT) Aleksey Rimashevsky, at a meeting with the employees of the enterprise, said that Alexander Lukashenko had lost the presidential election.
          Read more at RBC:
          https://www.rbc.ru/politics/15/08/2020/5f380a729a7947f9bd3e4fbe

          It looks like Rimashevsky lathered himself up to become the owner of MZKT. laughing
          1. viralig
            viralig 16 August 2020 11: 51 New
            -1
            It seems that he realized that AG is not eternal but will be asked from him as well.
          2. Alber alber
            Alber alber 16 August 2020 23: 47 New
            +2
            But it looks like they will put him on and that's right, you first catch / slam the cockroach, and only then dance over the wet liquid of his corpse
        4. viralig
          viralig 16 August 2020 11: 43 New
          -4
          Tatyana and not that the hell bored AG with its eternal collective farm.
          Today, social workers from all districts and regions are specially rounded up to Minsk for a rally in support of Lukasheno. Who does not agree to dismissal.
          The fact that you saw the strikes is still a trifle, it will be more serious further. And yes, there is no need to drive people to a rally against the AG. And the vaunted "80%" can only be shown by threats and from under the stick. More than half of TV workers refused to participate in the AG circus.
          Dear couch experts of color revolutions, there is no color revolution in Belarus, the common people got it and that's it. Let them tolerate - terpily, and soplezhui with words may be worse without him. I don’t know it will be worse or better without him. But the fact that we are finished with him is for sure. Why should half of the country be scammed off the ground, not seeing families for half a year in order for someone to survive. And upon arrival home, the state will crawl into your pocket, and there will be no pension, if God forbid you live as a friend.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 16 August 2020 21: 00 New
            +5
            Quote: viralig
            Tatyana and not that the hell bored AG with its eternal collective farm.

            He rules you for 1/4 of a century, but he only got tired of this week ... you are all on your collective farm "30 years without a crop" with a slow reaction to what is happening ...
            They are tired of the president, like children ...
            In the Russian Federation, on the contrary, presidents get tired of the people, one said so before the new year: "I'm tired, I'm leaving" ....
        5. Alex777
          Alex777 16 August 2020 12: 20 New
          +3
          One of the Polish readers writes that the protests in Belarus could have been orchestrated so that the oligarchy could get to the authorities and to key enterprises in the country.

          Whose oligarchy does he mean? American? Polish?
          This is the most correct assumption!

          Are you seriously? lol
          Here's another guess.
          The EU has ended multi-year (since the accession) multi-million dollar tranches in "support of the restructuring of the Polish economy."
          With this money, Poland has been happily living in the last decades.
          Now the Poles are frantically looking: at whose expense to live on?
          They clung to Trump, even offered to open the base in his name. But Trump not only does not give money, but also takes the last. bully
          It remains to take part in the robbery of some neighbor.
          Almost nothing is left of Ukraine in this sense.
          So they are trying to get into the Republic of Belarus. wink
          Colleague SRC P-15 (Alexander) directly hinted at this, but in answering his post, you chose not to notice it?
          Is the eye "blurry"? See only what you want?
      2. Arthur73
        Arthur73 16 August 2020 08: 06 New
        15
        Maybe that's why there is Poland's interest in overthrowing the dad, because then you can "privatize" so much on the sly!
        1. Alkonavt
          Alkonavt 16 August 2020 08: 17 New
          11
          Quote: Arthur73
          Maybe that's why there is Poland's interest in overthrowing the dad, because then you can "privatize" so much on the sly!

          There our oligarchy will burst with sacks of dollars ... Such a fight will start! After all, Belarus is the last splinter of the former USSR and the enterprises there are fatty chunks One BelAZ is worth (10% of world production), and BelKaliy, etc. The fight will be for life and death ... And those Protestant milk-suckers will turn into ordinary gastro-beaters ... you will have to pay for studies and a lot of money .. Their experience of the Outskirts does not teach them anything
          1. Selenium
            Selenium 16 August 2020 08: 51 New
            -5
            So he has been there for a long time, Gutsiriev saws a loan from China under Lu's guarantees. No one needs factories without sales. Education is more expensive than in Poland and Germany, and so. Here the population is learning to earn money in America and other countries, including Russia.
        2. Gargantua
          Gargantua 16 August 2020 08: 38 New
          -30
          It is necessary to understand the main thing, the bloody dictator is a political corpse in Belarus. And perhaps not only political. The people will never forgive him that he set his punishers against the Belarusians. Look at this: "Yes, it never happened that in blue-eyed Belarus the homeland of a soldier curses"
          1. RUnnm
            RUnnm 16 August 2020 09: 20 New
            13
            Somewhere I have already heard something like that .... remember! This is Avakov's "cops are not people!"
            1. Clear
              Clear 16 August 2020 11: 39 New
              +5
              Quote: RUnnm
              Somewhere I have already heard something like that .... remember! This is Avakov's "cops are not people!"

              Now we have Gargantua and company winked will show the second part of the Marlezon ballet, this is a Belarusian girl who wants to go to the EU and lace panties crying
              1. RUnnm
                RUnnm 16 August 2020 11: 56 New
                0
                Well, yes, there is a sacred sacrifice, they are children, "cops are not people" are, "the whole world is with us" too - so the stage with lace underwear remains))))
              2. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 16 August 2020 21: 40 New
                +2
                Quote: Clear
                Quote: RUnnm
                Somewhere I have already heard something like that .... remember! This is Avakov's "cops are not people!"

                Now we have Gargantua and company winked will show the second part of the Marlezon ballet, this is a Belarusian girl who wants to go to the EU and lace panties crying

                Then in the past ...
                1. Clear
                  Clear 17 August 2020 00: 16 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Quote: Clear
                  Quote: RUnnm
                  Somewhere I have already heard something like that .... remember! This is Avakov's "cops are not people!"

                  Now we have Gargantua and company winked will show the second part of the Marlezon ballet, this is a Belarusian girl who wants to go to the EU and lace panties crying

                  Then in the past ...

                  So everything in this poster is correct!
                  Quilted jacket, really warm clothes, and you also need to eat less, otherwise Lara Croft will turn out to be Lara Korova.
          2. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 16 August 2020 11: 47 New
            0
            Look at this: "Yes, it never happened that in blue-eyed Belarus the homeland of a soldier curses"


            It is not the people of the soldier who curses, but a couple of dogs sculpt and tell poems.

            The people will never forgive him that he set his punishers against the Belarusians.


            Come on. On Friday they hugged the "cursed" soldiers in the photo ...

            Don't pee the readership in the ears, uncle.
          3. g1v2
            g1v2 16 August 2020 13: 01 New
            +1
            On the third day, Sharp Eye realized that there was no one wall in the cell. At the age of 26, the Bulbash realized that they had a dictatorship. And in frustrated feelings they decided to break the country. laughing Of course, to Luka from a high tower. but the scrapers should understand one thing - that Belarusian socialism will go along with it. But whether the refined Belarusians will survive the emergence of capitalism is still a question.
            GENERALLY WANT TO BREAK - BREAK. But there are a few things to understand.
            1. This is a classic Maidan without "this is different." This is it with all the consequences.
            2. Breaking the dictatorial regime of Lukashenka, you are breaking your socialism with all its pluses and minuses.
            3. YOU FEEL YOURSELF. REALLY YOU HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED BY MANIPULATING YOUR FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS BY THE TYPE OF "LOWERED". An example of a crying red-haired maiden, telling about how she was tortured, and then turned out to be an old prostitute, who planned attacks on cops with accomplices and called it on the interrogation video, this is a standard feature.
            4. If a hostile regime comes to power, then support for your economy will come to naught, and your goods will begin to squeeze out of our markets. Why do we need to feed your collective farms, if our agricultural industry can perfectly produce the same thing?
            In general - decide for yourself. The decision is yours, but the consequences are yours too. For us, there are pros and cons to any outcome.
            1. Alber alber
              Alber alber 16 August 2020 23: 57 New
              +3
              Belarusians need to remember the story of Lee Kwang Yew more often, he ruled for 30 years himself, then a friend and relative for about 20, now the son brings him to exactly 60 years, and the nephew is next. And nothing Singapore is just ecstatic from such a dictatorship, nothing is broken, but on the contrary, created, which has never been in this godforsaken place
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 16 August 2020 08: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: Arthur73
          Maybe that's why there is Poland's interest in overthrowing the dad, because then you can "privatize" so much on the sly!

          Why does it "can"? He is himself. “Ghouls and ghouls are preparing to attack.” © And behind them looms their master.
        4. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 16 August 2020 10: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Arthur73
          Maybe that's why there is Poland's interest in overthrowing the dad, because then you can "privatize" so much on the sly!

          Poland behaves in Europe in the same way as Israel does in the B. East. The more chaos the neighbors have, the better Poland is. this ensures her dominance in the zone of her interests.
        5. viralig
          viralig 16 August 2020 11: 44 New
          0
          Under the sly and can get rid of.
        6. Alex777
          Alex777 16 August 2020 12: 30 New
          0
          Maybe that's why there is Poland's interest in overthrowing the dad, because then you can "privatize" so much on the sly!

          + 10500! yes
        7. Alex777
          Alex777 16 August 2020 12: 43 New
          0
          Tsepkalo rushed to Poland to meet with the curators.
          https://lenta.ru/news/2020/08/16/poka_ua/
      3. Mitroha
        Mitroha 16 August 2020 08: 12 New
        11
        this year the EU subsidy to Poland ends. Let's see how you sing later!

        So that's why they went to the Americans and lay down, it is not important for them to wave someone up, if only the money would flow. And if at the same time the neighbors can shit and feel superior, then this is generally a song about love.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 16 August 2020 12: 44 New
          +1
          Poles do not shit, they need to rob. yes
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        1. Romka
          Romka 16 August 2020 08: 42 New
          -1
          This is definitely noticed laughing laughing tongue
      5. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 16 August 2020 08: 36 New
        0
        Are angry. They are intimidated. Dreaming. But THEIR plans to capture Belarus will NOT come true !!! yes yes yes
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 16 August 2020 13: 11 New
          -2
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          Are angry. They are intimidated. Dreaming. But THEIR plans to capture Belarus will NOT come true !!!

          As well as Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, the Baltic states, Eastern Europe ??? laughing laughing laughing
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 16 August 2020 14: 17 New
            -1
            You know, for sure, that Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, the Baltic States moved away thanks to the efforts of Gorbachev, Yeltsin and their Co., and not V.V. Putin, who - and this is his undoubted merit - saved Russia from the final disintegration, enslavement and began to return Russian lands. I am convinced that the time will come - and they will return. And Belarus, I believe, will not only not go anywhere, but will cooperate with Russia more closely and closer (if it does not become a part of the federation after the referendum at all): despite your lies, 80% of Belarusians want this. As for Eastern Europe, the issue here, although more complicated, is also resolved over time.
      6. Alkonavt
        Alkonavt 16 August 2020 10: 07 New
        -1
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Polish wet dreams! You can't get so excited, it can end badly. yes
        Better to think about themselves: this year, the end of the subsidy to Poland from the EU. Let's see how you sing later!

        So they are hosting an additional contingent of amersky and possibly tactical nuclear weapons .. Rusophobia is well paid! Soon it is possible that new gastrobeiters from Belarus will be trampled by a stream, for "European happiness" .. They will not remain at a loss!
        But Russia is already starting to get angry and it's no joke .. negative
        1. rudolff
          rudolff 16 August 2020 10: 16 New
          +3
          Guest workers from Belarus are already a flood. And not so much to Europe as to Russia. As for Poland specifically, they have already gorged themselves on Ukrainians.
      7. shed
        shed 16 August 2020 19: 19 New
        0
        it's time for Lukashenka to give Russia a couple of airfields, let the psheks feel the radioactive dust, although it almost hangs over the flattened, the pin * wasps jump first,
    2. Civil
      Civil 16 August 2020 08: 09 New
      -17
      Considering that Putin despises Lukashenka, the question really is where this figure can go.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 16 August 2020 08: 11 New
        -10
        Quote: Civil
        Considering that Putin despises Lukashenka, the question really is where this figure can go.

        1. sedoj
          sedoj 16 August 2020 09: 24 New
          0
          Well, Karaulov himself came up with the idea: "Putin is in shock" and is discussing this topic himself.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 16 August 2020 08: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Alkonavt
      Poles dream about it

      It's good to dream while lying on the couch.
      1. Alkonavt
        Alkonavt 16 August 2020 09: 26 New
        -2
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Alkonavt
        Poles dream about it

        It's good to dream while lying on the couch.

        Worse if behind a machine gun, somewhere in a cold trench, hiding from NATO drones
    4. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 16 August 2020 08: 46 New
      +1
      Waltzman sent an army against his people, while killing many civilians. SO WHAT? He is zilch in everyday life.
      1. Clear
        Clear 16 August 2020 11: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Alex Nevs
        Waltzman sent an army against his people, while killing many civilians. SO WHAT

        Do not hurry. For everything, sooner or later you will have to pay.
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 August 2020 09: 08 New
      +4
      It would be better to be silent, otherwise they stick their noses wherever they ask! The colony of the US has begun to allow itself too much against its neighbors! Now they are trying to "run over" the Germans, they are always rolling a barrel at us, now they are in the habit of teaching Belarus to live!
    6. Pravodel
      Pravodel 16 August 2020 11: 16 New
      +2
      Experience, indeed, is the son of difficult mistakes and a good guide for those who know how to learn from them.
      Russia took into account the mistakes with the Maidan on Ukraine and Venezuela assisted President Maduro, who was able to cope with the Maidan and, subsequently, catch all the saboteurs sent to Venezuela.
      The situation in Belaya Rus' is repeated in 2 variants: in the variant of Ukraine, in the variant of Venezuela.
      With option on Lukashenka coped with Ukraine, as a result, the Maidan turned into the Venezuelan version. Now a farce can be played out with a Zits-President in the form of Trukhanovskaya, with the incitement of "bloodless" demonstrations. What we see. The streets now take to the militants, as it was in the version on Ukraine, but housewives and workers of enterprises. God forbid, with the help of our Lukashenkos and cope with this.
      But the Maidan in Belaya Rus poses very serious questions for the leadership of Belarus:
      1. The presence of traitors in the leadership of White Russia, who undermine White Russia from the inside. So far, this process has not gone too far, but, obviously, the leadership of White Russia is struck by a cancerous tumor of betrayal.
      2. The presence of serious opposition to Lukashenka in the management of industrial enterprises, at the suggestion of which strikes and strikes of industrial workers are organized.
      The fate of not only White Russia, but also Russia depends on how quickly and effectively Lukashenka will be able to cope with these threats.
      I would like to believe that after the complete localization of the Maidan, Lukashenko, realizing that this is his last presidential term, that the only condition for his peaceful old age is union and integration with Russia, Lukashenko will accelerate this process and, finally, the unification of White and Great Russia into a single a state in which all citizens of White Russia will receive equal rights with citizens of Great Russia and Belai Russia itself will acquire new opportunities for development.
      On the question of the fate of Ceausescu and Lukashenko. Taking into account the lessons learned on the Maidan, Lukashenko will bypass the fate of Ceausescu, and with the unification of White and Great Russia, the name of A.G. Lukashenko will be inscribed in huge letters in the history of Russia as the president who did not allow Belarus to collapse and united fraternal peoples.
    7. kris_67
      kris_67 17 August 2020 12: 08 New
      0
      "It's Russia !" - why suddenly? Belarus has never been Russia and it will hardly be.
    8. Gunter prereen
      Gunter prereen 17 August 2020 18: 18 New
      -1
      Not only Poles. Ukrainians, Georgians, zhmud dream about the same.
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 16 August 2020 07: 46 New
    +3
    But bam this well, I really don't want it!
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 07: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Victor_B
      But bam this well, I really don't want it!

      Well, I don't want to, but he will have to bite his tongue with anti-Russian rhetoric if he wants to live!
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 16 August 2020 08: 03 New
        +7
        Polish readers announced the possibility of a repetition of Ceausescu's fate for Lukashenka
        Quote: Alkonavt
        Quote: Victor_B
        But bam this well, I really don't want it!

        Well, I don't want to, but he will have to bite his tongue with anti-Russian rhetoric if he wants to live!

        But father is still that ... cockroach, but in this case For Russia - matter of principle and state interest in order to prevent the development of actions in Belarus according to the scenario "chaushesko","gaddafi","saddam"Or"Yanukovych"
        1. Alkonavt
          Alkonavt 16 August 2020 08: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          But father is still a cockroach, but in this case for Russia it is a matter of principle and state interest in order to prevent the development of actions in Belarus according to the scenario of "chaushesko", "gaddafi", "saddam" or "yanukovych"

          I agree ! Enough for us one Outskirts of the Bandera aggressive .. negative If Luka falls, then the power of Minsk will be unambiguously anti-Russian, Russophobic, and possibly worse than the Kiev junta.
          1. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 16 August 2020 11: 52 New
            -1
            Minsk will be unambiguously anti-Russian, Russophobic, and possibly worse than the Kiev junta.


            Kievskaya will be childish babble
        2. Clear
          Clear 16 August 2020 11: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Polish readers announced the possibility of a repetition of Ceausescu's fate for Lukashenka
          Quote: Alkonavt
          Quote: Victor_B
          But bam this well, I really don't want it!

          Well, I don't want to, but he will have to bite his tongue with anti-Russian rhetoric if he wants to live!

          But father is still that ... cockroach, but in this case For Russia - matter of principle and state interest in order to prevent the development of actions in Belarus according to the scenario "chaushesko","gaddafi","saddam"Or"Yanukovych"

          I, too, would not identify Belarus only with Lukashenko.
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  4. askort154
    askort154 16 August 2020 07: 51 New
    +9
    I am already sick of the statements of the Polish President Duda, and VO also offers us comments from Polish inhabitants. What for ?!
    1. Arthur73
      Arthur73 16 August 2020 08: 08 New
      +4
      In order not to create illusions about the attitude of the West towards the states of the former USSR.
    2. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 09: 29 New
      0
      Quote: askort154
      I am already sick of the statements of the Polish President Duda, and VO also offers us comments from Polish inhabitants. What for ?!

      Well, there are supposedly sane ones out there, but I'm not sure about that .. soldier The Poles crossed the red line when the graves of our soldiers began to desecrate, like the Czechs ..
  5. apro
    apro 16 August 2020 07: 52 New
    -7
    Yes. Rarely an adequate assessment of the situation. Or the sample is such ...
    The last comparison with Ceausescu is alarming. He was destroyed jointly by the Amers and the KGB ...
  6. sabakina
    sabakina 16 August 2020 07: 53 New
    +1
    Polish readers announced the possibility of a repetition of Ceausescu's fate for Lukashenka
    It seems to me, publications declare, and readers write (comment).
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 16 August 2020 07: 59 New
      +1
      Are you modern experts? They strongly recommend listening. In general, on the Polish resource, they completely drown for Lukashenka. And with amazement they comment on "caricature rallies".
      https://dorzeczy.pl/swiat/150561/nic-z-tego-nie-bedzie-kraju-nie-oddamy-stanowcze-oswiadczenie-lukaszenki.html
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 August 2020 08: 13 New
      -1
      Quote: sabakina
      It seems to me, publications declare, and readers write (comment).

      It Polish interactive edition - "I write myself, I read it myself" yes

      I drink myself I walk myself I lay myself I kick myself

      1. Alkonavt
        Alkonavt 16 August 2020 09: 30 New
        -3
        Quote: Insurgent
        This is a Polish interactive publication - "I write myself, I read it myself" yes

        I drink myself I walk myself I lay myself I kick myself

        Sometimes insurgent I agree with you .. hi
  7. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 16 August 2020 07: 54 New
    +1
    Polish writers and Polish readers smile
    1. Clear
      Clear 16 August 2020 11: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Polish writers and Polish readers smile

      Igor, wink Have you announced a lunch break? We didn’t finish the sentence ...
  8. Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 07: 56 New
    -8
    I hope the Poles are wrong. I hope that Lukashenka will not face the fate of Ceausescu, but the fate of Samosa, that is, the overthrow and retirement in a villa on the seashore.

    With NATO in general and with Poland in particular, Russia is now waging a war on the territory of Belarus. Russia has already lost such a war in East Germany, in Yugoslavia, in Hungary, in Czechoslovakia, in Bulgaria, in Poland, in Albania, in the Baltic States, in the Ukraine.
    When will Russia's permanent defeats finally end? Maybe when Russia itself disintegrates into several countries that fall under the Anglo-Jewish capital?
    I want Russia to win the war for Belarus. To do this, we must put all our forces on the battlefield, up to strategic nuclear weapons and questioning the physical existence of Russia and NATO. Although I would like it not to come to that.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 16 August 2020 08: 08 New
      +3
      and the fate of Samosa, that is, the overthrow and retirement in a villa by the sea.
      ... Fled from the country A. Somoza was sentenced in absentia to death. The sentence was carried out in Asuncion on September 17, 1980. The operation was carried out by a group of Argentines from the Revolutionary Army of the People under the leadership of Enrique Gorriaran. It is believed that his posthumous fortune was between $ 500 million and $ 1 billion.
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 08: 12 New
        -6
        Oh well.
        Let Luke have the fate of F. Marcos or the fate of Mobutu-Sese-Seko and the like.
        However, I don't care about Lukashenka.
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 08: 44 New
      -4
      They give me dislikes here.
      And I look at Belarus as a part of that chain of countries that Russia needs to conquer.
      It is necessary to keep Belarus, and then make a coup in Ukraine and annex it. Then you have to tackle Eastern Europe. Return countries to their influence, singly or in groups. When Eastern Europe returns under the influence of Russia, it will be necessary to take on Western Europe. Start from Germany and walk to Gibraltar. It is not necessary to annex Europe, but it is necessary to control its financial flows. Military strength will be the guarantee. And then it is necessary to pull back from the waters of influence of the United States and Latin America.

      If someone says that this is impossible, that it is not right, then let him think, why is the United States possible? Or is there some kind of racism that the Russians cannot do that, that Russians are prohibited from doing this? All life is war. Learn political history from Mesopotamia to modern times. And the people in it are soldiers, even if they don't want to be.
      And in the war there are winners, whose descendants go to the future, and there are losers, who no longer have descendants, and about whom we know only from history as disappeared peoples. I don't want our people to lose in history and disappear.

      And the Poles are finally a loser people who are just slightly sick with post-imperial syndrome. The fate of the Polish people is to merge with the Germans and lose their identity. The Russian imperial people are still losing, but not losing in the historical war, that is, there is a chance of victory.
      1. RUBEY
        RUBEY 16 August 2020 10: 16 New
        +1
        Russia in its present state will never return anything and will not win back. A country without ideology and goals (except perhaps echoes of imperial ambitions), with a mediocre economy and standard of living for today's inhabitants does not have much appeal. So calm down with dreams of expanding some kind of influence of Russia in the world. No one needs this influence for nothing.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 10: 38 New
          +1
          I agree with you, RUBEY. Russia in its current state will not return anything and will not win back.
          Therefore, it is necessary to change Russia for the better so that it has financial, demographic, technical and military might.
          I did not say that Russia, with its demoralized and shrinking people with corrupt officials at the head, will be able to do something and will want something. Changes in Russia inside must be accompanied by changes around Russia. Will you agree with this?
          1. mdsr
            mdsr 16 August 2020 13: 22 New
            -1
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            Therefore, it is necessary to change Russia for the better so that it has financial, demographic, technical and military might.

            The deadline was zeroed, the Constitution was prescribed for one person, the retirement age was raised, taxes were raised, and what, again, is something missing from the ruling organized crime group? Maybe the air tax isn't enough? Or are eggs just getting in the way?
            Quote: Aleksandr1971
            Changes in Russia inside must be accompanied by changes around Russia.

            What, as in Russia, do you want to change everything for the worse? God sent a neighbor with the principle: it doesn't matter that everything is bad with me and the whole economy is falling apart, it is important to make the neighbors even worse.
      2. Michael HORNET
        Michael HORNET 16 August 2020 12: 20 New
        0
        Everything is true, but this requires a NEW ideology and a new person, no less. In its current form, the Russian Federation is not capable of anything
    3. Gargantua
      Gargantua 16 August 2020 09: 13 New
      -1
      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      I want Russia to win the war for Belarus.

      Whom? Lukashenka with his dogs or the Belarusian people? Or both at once? Because this is how the dividing line in Belarus runs today.
      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      To do this, we must put all our forces on the battlefield, up to strategic nuclear weapons and questioning the physical existence of Russia and NATO. Although I would like it not to come to that.

      And can you question only your physical existence? Somehow I don’t want my country to become a victim of the policy of idiots in power and opposing Russia to the Belarusian people.
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 10: 48 New
        -2
        Gargantua (Alexey Yuryevich), do not turn my words around.

        It is not Lukashenka or the Belarusian people who need to win. The people should not be opposed, but united. The bow must be removed. The West is waging war against Russia.

        I will put my existence at risk, provided that I am guaranteed to drag as many bad people as possible to the next world. This risk will please me. But this is not a thread topic.
        The theme of the branch is that the West is increasingly reducing the living space of the Russian people, intending to isolate, reduce sources of income, surround with military bases, achieve political disintegration and, finally, military defeat. In other words, the West is putting Russia's physical existence at stake, but not its own. But only the West is doing this gradually in order to weaken Russia's retaliatory strike. So if Russia is to die, then why die alone? We must drag the West along with us. And there is still strength to strike. Or let the West, realizing that things are moving towards mutual destruction, stop reducing the living space of Russia, stop working to isolate Russia, reduce its sources of income, stop surrounding it with military bases, stop seeking political disintegration and military defeat for Russia.
    4. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 16 August 2020 11: 30 New
      0
      I hope the Poles are wrong. I hope that Lukashenka will not face the fate of Ceausescu, but the fate of Samosa, that is, the overthrow and retirement in a villa on the seashore.
      Or the fate of Karimov wink
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 12: 59 New
        +1
        By the way, Karimov had a good fate. Only the people of Uzbekistan felt bad from this dictator. Now the situation seems to be improving in Uzbekistan.
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 16 August 2020 13: 28 New
          -1
          Quote: Aleksandr1971
          Now the situation seems to be improving in Uzbekistan.

          The key word in your proposal is LIKE. And all your reasoning about neighbors is based on this word. The senile Mirziyoyev did not bring any improvement in their lives.
          1. Servisinzhener
            Servisinzhener 16 August 2020 14: 04 New
            0
            And in Kyrgyzstan, there have been many coups after the overthrow of Akayev. But there even my own experience does not teach anything.
    5. Quadro
      Quadro 16 August 2020 12: 55 New
      -2
      And what claims did this shot make to me? Already here nuclear weapons are proposed to be used. Will you go to the trenches as a couch warrior?
  9. Fungus
    Fungus 16 August 2020 07: 56 New
    +7
    Poles want Belarus to fall apart and become a world beggar like Ukraine. And so that Belarusians go to Poland to collect crops for a penny instead of the Poles.
  10. Karaul73
    Karaul73 16 August 2020 08: 00 New
    -5
    Putin has once again outplayed the West. Lukashenka in a trap. You can't go west. Sanctions are about to be imposed again, legitimacy is not recognized. Only go to Russia. And there are probably tough conditions for the creation of the Belarusian province. And that's how to live, Germans!
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 16 August 2020 08: 43 New
      +1
      Has Putin outplayed the West? And it seems to me that he is on the verge of his next loss. Helping Luka to maintain his power, Russia with its own hands pushed Belarus away from itself. And if she now tries to pull him out, helps to maintain power, there will definitely be no unification. If by reason, then Russia should have helped not Luka, but Tikhanovskaya. Get new elections and nominate your candidate. After such a move, this candidate would have every chance of winning. And then at least a referendum, at least green cards. Unfortunately, there are no chess players in the Kremlin.
      As for Luke himself, he missed his chance to leave with dignity. But now he really has a chance to finish like Ceausescu, Saddam, Gaddafi.
    2. Fungus
      Fungus 16 August 2020 09: 05 New
      0
      Putin hasn't played yet. And he outplayed the west with Syria, Venezuela, Crimea, etc. etc.
      1. Michael HORNET
        Michael HORNET 16 August 2020 12: 22 New
        -1
        Eating cheese in a mousetrap - is that now in Olgino they give out for victory?
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 16 August 2020 12: 57 New
          -3
          Quote: Michael HORNET
          Eating cheese in a mousetrap - is that now in Olgino they give out for victory?

          Why are you Botyara Brovarsky rolling a barrel on Olgino? Competitors don't let your ass relax?
    3. Gargantua
      Gargantua 16 August 2020 09: 20 New
      -4
      Quote: Sentry73
      Putin has once again outplayed the West.

      I told you that the next strategic defeat of Russia's foreign policy will be passed off as KSP. Here it is laughing And we have completely outplayed NATO in Ukraine, as well as in Georgia, in Armenia. Goebbels is probably nervously smoking from contemplation of what the propaganda has brought some Russians to.
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 16 August 2020 12: 33 New
      0
      Why provinces? The Tatars, Bashkirs, Dagestan peoples of the republic, and the 9-million-strong republic has the status of a province? Moreover, we have edges and regions. The main difference between the Republic of the Russian Federation and the region and the region is the presence of additional or additional state languages, along with Russian. In the region or region, the only state language is Russian. In Belarus, the state languages ​​are Belarusian and Russian. I have a feeling that most likely there will be no unification with Belarus. There is a small probability of creating a real Union State. The likelihood of joining the Russian Federation as a unified republic is even less likely. But then it will be the largest republic of the Russian Federation (equal in number to Tatarstan, Bashkiria and Chuvashia, taken together) and the second, after Moscow, in terms of population, subject of the federation.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 16 August 2020 12: 59 New
        0
        The best, but practically unrealizable, option is the creation of the Union State without the formal entry of the Republic of Belarus into the Russian Federation, but also without the creation of redundant bureaucratic union structures. The authorities of the Russian Federation and the Union State would be maximally united, and the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation would be an integral part of the Union Parliament. The union government would consist of members of the Russian government and several representatives of the Republic of Belarus. The Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would be common, without the presence of separate Defense and Foreign Ministries in the RF and RB. But in the collegiums of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, it is mandatory to reserve seats for Belarusian representatives. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB are common for the Union and the Russian Federation, and
        the corresponding structures in RB function as their autonomous part. But the ministries of education, health and a number of others could be left only at the level of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus in the presence of coordinating and advisory union structures.The judicial systems and prosecutors should remain separate from the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus in the presence of coordinating judicial and prosecutorial bodies at the union level. The topic could be developed, but I see no point in view of the practical impossibility of realizing this option.
  11. kenig1
    kenig1 16 August 2020 08: 04 New
    0
    An article about the comments of Polish readers? Why are Lithuanian readers offended? I would like to know the opinion of Kurdyuskavicius and Dolboskavicius on Sunday morning.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 16 August 2020 08: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: kenig1
      I would like to know the opinion of Kurdyuskavicius and Dolboskavicius on Sunday morning.

      They are busy scribbling new statements and appeals for the "young lady from the opposition" and their own answers to them. Was it in vain that they sheltered? They feed, watered, covered - I must understand that I will have to work out.
    2. Gargantua
      Gargantua 16 August 2020 09: 22 New
      0
      Quote: kenig1
      An article about the comments of Polish readers? Why are Lithuanian readers offended?

      Yes, there are more than enough Russian ones to break your stomach with laughter laughing
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 16 August 2020 08: 11 New
    +5
    They think they are fighting for freedom, but in reality they are fighting to eliminate jobs. It's amazing what online propaganda can do to crowd heads.
    ... Fairly adequate opinion ..
  13. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 16 August 2020 08: 26 New
    +5
    Poland has always dreamed of a state from sea to sea. And they consistently follow their line. At first, things were muddied in Ukraine. Now in Belarus. The goal is one: to return the territories lost in 1939. And this must always be remembered ...
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 10: 54 New
      +1
      For Poland, this is now just a dream. The Polish people themselves have the prospect of a peaceful, slow assimilation in the German environment.
      But before disappearing, the Poles, like donkeys, want to kick, in their opinion, an old sick bear. Since none of the Western owners allows them to kick the Germans.
      But to the future chagrin of the Poles, the bear is ill only temporarily, and then will tear off their legs.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 16 August 2020 12: 40 New
        0
        You exaggerate the assimilation possibilities of modern Germans. I don’t know a single serious German politician, historian, sociologist, ethnologist who admits the possibility of assimilation of Poles.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 16 August 2020 13: 09 New
          +1
          In the short and medium term, measuring history in tens of years or even 1 or two centuries, one cannot but agree with your thesis.

          But look at human political history from the very beginning. Are there many nations that created their statehood 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 thousand years ago, still exist today? Of those that were 4 thousand years ago, only the Chinese remained. Of those who created statehood 3 thousand years ago, the Chinese and Jews remained. Of those who had statehood 2 thousand years ago, the Chinese, Greeks, Arabs, Persians, Armenians, Ethiopians remained. There are more nations with millennial statehood, but also only a couple of dozen.

          I am sure that self-identification shines for the Poles not more than a couple of centuries, well, certainly not a thousand years ahead. already now, Poles and Germans have a lot of interethnic marriages in which children prefer to consider themselves Germans rather than Poles. This is how 5-6 generations will pass, and - goodbye to the Polish nation.
          And for Russia and its people, self-determination and self-identification as Russians, I hope, will have much more centuries than the Poles (if all mankind does not die earlier due to some catastrophe).
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 16 August 2020 14: 24 New
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            Nevertheless, in the Prussian part of Poland in the 19th and early 20th centuries, to the surprise of the German authorities, there were numerous cases of assimilation by the Poles of the Germans living next to them.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 August 2020 08: 29 New
    +1
    And it's true. Now the "victory of democracy" in Belarus will end with the privatization of enterprises and mass layoffs ... after which the current suppression of protests against new, "democratic" ones will seem like childish pranks ... request
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  16. RealPilot
    RealPilot 16 August 2020 08: 34 New
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    Polish readers and Polish writers ...
    But this is a forum like ours. It conveys mood well.
    Well, it causes indignation here because of the opposite of the main trend.

    I think that in this case, such sentiments in Poland play into the hands of Russia, because the position on 3 chairs for the AHL is no longer a channel! Well, the more angrily it is expressed, the more uncompromising, the more clearly the tendency is manifested.
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 16 August 2020 09: 20 New
    +1
    The Poles themselves have a mess in their heads.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 16 August 2020 09: 24 New
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    But father first of all questioned his fate, and the country, as it was in our orbit, will remain so.
  19. Alsur
    Alsur 16 August 2020 09: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Gargantua
    It is necessary to understand the main thing, the bloody dictator is a political corpse in Belarus. And perhaps not only political. The people will never forgive him that he set his punishers against the Belarusians. Look at this: "Yes, it never happened that in blue-eyed Belarus the homeland of a soldier curses"

    It was already, poetry was read in Ukraine, no less pretentious. But Ukraine did not get any better from the overthrow of the "dictator". Not an enviable role for those people who are used in the dark, technologists for the color revolution. And technology is indifferent to the fate of the country, they work off the salary. But those who are sincerely led to these technologies are simply a pity, you need to be smarter.
    1. Clear
      Clear 16 August 2020 12: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: ALSur
      Quote: Gargantua
      It is necessary to understand the main thing, the bloody dictator is a political corpse in Belarus. And perhaps not only political. The people will never forgive him that he set his punishers against the Belarusians. Look at this: "Yes, it never happened that in blue-eyed Belarus the homeland of a soldier curses"

      It was already, poetry was read in Ukraine, no less pretentious. But Ukraine did not get any better from the overthrow of the "dictator". Not an enviable role for those people who are used in the dark, technologists for the color revolution. And technology is indifferent to the fate of the country, they work off the salary. But those who are sincerely led to these technologies are simply a pity, you need to be smarter.

      What a well-fed, well-fed and western-trained storyteller ... He looks like a Ukrainian policeman from the Second World War yes
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 16 August 2020 12: 42 New
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      As far as I remember, Yanukovych was not specifically called a dictator.
  20. Varaga
    Varaga 16 August 2020 09: 42 New
    +4
    If Lukashenka continues to try to sit on two chairs, then this "multi-vector" will really end up as that Pole said. The opening of the US Embassy in Minsk is a big mistake. It can become fatal, that is, the last. Moreover, Lukashenka has no other options to save the country, except for integration with Russia. Because even if he makes all the concessions to the "opposition" he will still be overthrown. We all remember what happened to Yanukovych. Let him say thanks to our guys for saving this weak-willed balabol.
  21. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 August 2020 10: 49 New
    -1
    Poles, I am very opposed that you have the Bialystok region. At least they would be imminent. Your stock is White is not in order, everything with a name from the word white should belong to Belarus or Russia, I can’t eat if something white does not belong to us. Putin spoiled us. this white Arctic. Closer everything white on the map is ours. negative
  22. north 2
    north 2 16 August 2020 11: 43 New
    +2
    Enough to say and write that Belarus needs integration with Russia. It will be like a little pregnant woman. Only the full entry of Belarus into the Russian Federation will be an excuse
    saving Belarus and making the dream of millions of Belarusians come true. No, not those liberals who
    they pray to the Poles and Lithuanians, and those who work in Belarus and are fed. But the most difficult and dangerous thing is that these liberals are already around Lukashenka. Foreign Secretary . How much
    liberals surrounded by Putin, so there are also numbers and positions is striking. By the way, if Putin has not yet initiated the trial of Yeltsin and Gorbachev, then Putin himself belongs to the camp
    tolerant liberals. So Putin is also afraid of the full-fledged entry of Belarus into the Russian
    Federation. How is it that Putin built and is visiting the Yeltsin Center, but will revive what he
    Yeltsin inherited the dream of liberals and tolerators. Only to destroy ... It's hard for Putin to overcome all this and step over it, but he is already taking the first steps. Crimea returned, revived the power of the Russian Armed Forces, created decent agriculture in Russia. And this is against the philosophy of Yeltsin's liberals. But now is a special moment. The moment it is necessary to include Belarus in the Russian Federation. Of course, this should have been done a long time ago, about fifteen years ago, but it's better late - than never ...
  23. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 16 August 2020 11: 51 New
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    It would be nice to have a GDP with an onion on the transfer and punishment of local provocateurs, I would agree, I would throw off some screenshots to the services, you can pack someone for 10 years ...
    1. mdsr
      mdsr 16 August 2020 13: 38 New
      -3
      Quote: Incvizitor
      It would be nice to have a GDP with an onion about the transfer and punishment of local provocateurs, I would have thrown off some screenshots to the services, you can pack someone for 10 years.

      yeah, it would be interesting to see how Putin would betray our citizens to the new authorities of Belarus, such as Incvizitor (Andrei), pouring mud on the people of Belarus, rebelling against the bloody dictator who hails from Chernigov.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 16 August 2020 13: 41 New
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        There will be no "new" authorities, and for you the liberda will not sink against the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus for sure.
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 16 August 2020 13: 49 New
          -3
          Quote: Incvizitor
          There will be no "new" authorities

          You this to the workers of MAZ, MTZ, MZKT, BELAZ, BelarusKaliya and others, tell me, who have already reset this bloody sashka yes
          Quote: Incvizitor
          for you the liberda who will definitely not drown the GDP against the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus
          He, too, has not much left to sit. Judging by his actions, he will soon follow in the footsteps of Yanukovych and Lukashenko wink
  24. iouris
    iouris 16 August 2020 12: 32 New
    +3
    Few understand why Ceausescu and his wife were brutally removed. Let's try to "simulate". First, the financial structures of the "world backstage and backstage" were furious, because Ceausescu paid back the debts. Secondly, it was Gorby's signal to the British and Americans, as well as to the "allies" that Gorby "crossed the Rubicon", i.e. "I am yours, bourgeois", "perestroika" is irreversible. Third, the leaders of the socialist countries and the internal opposition, dissatisfied with Gorby's policy, received a clear and final warning. Thus, the "Polish readers" (and most likely the "writers") expect the script to repeat itself. So who are you, masters of culture with?
  25. Radius
    Radius 16 August 2020 12: 57 New
    -1
    Quote: Clear
    Quote: ALSur
    Quote: Gargantua
    It is necessary to understand the main thing, the bloody dictator is a political corpse in Belarus. And perhaps not only political. The people will never forgive him that he set his punishers against the Belarusians. Look at this: "Yes, it never happened that in blue-eyed Belarus the homeland of a soldier curses"

    It was already, poetry was read in Ukraine, no less pretentious. But Ukraine did not get any better from the overthrow of the "dictator". Not an enviable role for those people who are used in the dark, technologists for the color revolution. And technology is indifferent to the fate of the country, they work off the salary. But those who are sincerely led to these technologies are simply a pity, you need to be smarter.

    What a well-fed, well-fed and western-trained storyteller ... He looks like a Ukrainian policeman from the Second World War yes

    Hmm ... I listened to verses several times in order to accurately catch intonations and ... "... I don't believe!" (c) Aktyorishko is so-so ...
  26. orionvitt
    orionvitt 16 August 2020 12: 58 New
    +1
    They think they are fighting for freedom, but in reality they are fighting to eliminate jobs.
    The fact of the matter is that it is precisely those who have never really worked in life who are fighting "for freedom". True, if the word "protestant" is taken for a profession, and street and Internet protests for "work", then at a stretch, you can even call these "hard workers". laughing
  27. Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 16 August 2020 22: 11 New
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    The shooting of Ceausescu was a great abomination, but he still killed many people during his reign. But to say about Lukashenka that such a fate awaits him is simply the inadequacy and bloodthirstiness of Internet inhabitants!
  28. Grits
    Grits 17 August 2020 06: 32 New
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    Quote: viralig
    Why should half of the country be scammed off the ground, not seeing families for half a year in order for someone to survive.

    Q. Don't you think that if "revolution" wins, you won't see families for years?
  29. bulava
    bulava 17 August 2020 13: 39 New
    -1
    They think they are fighting for freedom, but in reality they are fighting to eliminate jobs. It's amazing what online propaganda can do to crowd heads.

    It turns out that there are adequate people in Poland! Respect!
  30. shed
    shed 17 August 2020 18: 39 New
    +1
    in poland, the democratic leaders were again dispersed; the whole world is worried, but they are worried about the Belarusians.