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The United States and Israel fear the supply of S-400 air defense systems to Iran

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The United States and Israel fear the supply of S-400 air defense systems to Iran

The United States and Israel, as well as the United Arab Emirates, fear that if the arms embargo on Iran is lifted, Tehran will be able to purchase Russian and Chinese anti-aircraft systems, including the S-400 Triumph air defense system. Breaking Defense writes about it.


According to American analysts Bradley Bowman and Shane Preiswater of the Fund for the Defense of Democracies, there is a high probability that Iran will take advantage of the lifting of the arms embargo and start buying Russian and Chinese fighters and anti-aircraft systems. Tehran has already made attempts to purchase S-400 air defense systems from Russia, but Moscow rejected this request, as there was a ban on supplies weapons Iran.

But if the arms embargo ends, Moscow could seize the opportunity to sell Tehran the S-400, as well as fighters and other weapons.

- say analysts.

Tehran is likely to use this weapon to escalate its attacks on American troops and American partners in the region, the newspaper writes. There may be danger for the Israeli aviationtherefore, "given the impending dangers," the US Department of Defense and the Israel Defense Forces began preparing "for likely scenarios." As an example, the publication cites the joint exercises of the United States and Israel to practice F-35 strikes against "sophisticated air defense systems and enemy fighters before hitting ground targets", which took place in early August in Israel.

According to analysts, the capabilities of the American fifth-generation F-35 fighter can destroy Russian anti-aircraft systems.

In many real-life situations, the F-35 will have to defeat the Iranian air defense system and fighters to facilitate direct or indirect weapon strikes against ground targets.

- claims the publication.
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  1. The black
    The black 16 August 2020 07: 28
    12
    Tehran will definitely buy this weapon
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 07: 35
      -4
      Quote: Black
      Tehran will definitely buy this weapon

      Yes, I would give them free of charge, and even with our calculations to boot .. bully The USA and Israel in general have become insolent on the BV ..
      1. borberd
        borberd 16 August 2020 10: 58
        -8
        Quote: Alkonavt
        Yes, I would give them free of charge, and even with our calculations in the bargain.

        They have already supplied high-quality weapons to the Arabs for free. Israel beat them, and as a result - a decrease in the export potential of Soviet weapons. Do you want the same option, but with supplies to the Iranians?
        1. Alkonavt
          Alkonavt 16 August 2020 11: 18
          +5
          Quote: borberd
          They have already supplied high-quality weapons to the Arabs for free. Israel beat them, and as a result - a decrease in the export potential of Soviet weapons

          Well, Russia is no longer the USSR hi We know the price of money and who is worth what, we learned like ..)))
          Quote: borberd
          Do you want the same option, but with supplies to the Iranians?

          We want, but yours in the US-UN Congress will not give us!
          And we will deliver, as well as the completion of the Nord Stream .. wink Iran remains the last bastion of opposition to you and the United States .. Well, Syria is under Russian protection ..
          So everything is just beginning!
          1. borberd
            borberd 16 August 2020 11: 32
            -13 qualifying.
            Put something, of course, but it seems to me that China, not you, will remove most of the cream from the Iranians. Even Europe has a higher chance of making money on Iranians than you.
            1. Alkonavt
              Alkonavt 16 August 2020 12: 31
              +8
              Quote: borberd
              Put something, of course, but it seems to me that China, not you, will remove most of the cream from the Iranians. Even Europe has a higher chance of making money on Iranians than you.

              You Jews just want to make money .. We have a different mentality hi
              1. borberd
                borberd 16 August 2020 12: 47
                +4
                Yeah, in all the articles on the lifting of the arms embargo on Iran, aren't you counting the likely profits? Or is it again the Jews are pressing your keyboard with your hands? And in general, Meehan, it was the USSR that could send the Arabs and air defense calculations for free and all the weapons for free. Present-day Russia won't even look for free.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 16 August 2020 21: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: borberd
                  , it was the USSR that could send the Arabs and air defense calculations for free and all the weapons for free.

                  There were no free deliveries under the USSR, even to Vietnam, which was at war - there was a CREDIT. But the terms of this loan were ... very pleasant, with a long delay and almost interest-free.
                  It really was a help.
                  But not gratuitous.
                  And those debts were written off already under the current capitalist government.
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 17 August 2020 11: 02
                    -1
                    The USSR re-armed the entire Egyptian and Syrian army after the 1967 defeat. And this is many billions of dollars at old prices, when the dollar was valued more than it is now. How could Syria and Egypt repay the USSR for this? Despite the fact that at that time they produced almost nothing of value.
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 17 August 2020 17: 51
                      0
                      Quote: borberd
                      How could Syria and Egypt repay the USSR for this?

                      Money, obviously. request And what else do they pay off their debts?
                      Everything was supplied on credit, and even Vietnam, which had fought for 20 years, was also on credit. Interest-free (sometimes - low-interest) with a decent deferral of the first payment. Sometimes there was a delay until the economy of a friendly country was fully restored.
                      The USSR played a long game - it helped create the economy, statehood, trained management and technical personnel, and supplied equipment.
                      On credit.
                      And he gave a deferral to loan payments until the normal strengthening of the economy. And even then - a return. So a system of friendly countries was created, and the economic assistance provided to them was not ruinous.
                      And if it were not for the betrayal of the elites and the surrender of the USSR, then from the beginning of the 90s ALL of these countries had to start repaying the loans issued earlier.
                      Hundreds of billions of dollars \ rubles (Soviet, where the dollar was worth 62 - 67 kopecks).
                      And this at a time when the entire capitalist world was on the brink of a new general crisis ...
                      It would have been an unprecedented rise of the USSR, if its elites had not sold out for lentil stew - the right to rob their own people.
                      ... And yes, by the end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s, Syria had already completely recovered and could put a lot of things into account of paying off debts - citrus fruits, textiles, etc.
                      Look about Egypt for yourself in supermarkets - what they could supply.
                      1. borberd
                        borberd 17 August 2020 18: 03
                        -1
                        Quote: bayard
                        On credit.
                        And he gave a deferral to loan payments until the normal strengthening of the economy. And even then - a return. So a system of friendly countries was created, and the economic assistance provided to them was not ruinous.

                        And then the Soviet specialists were harshly "asked" to leave Egypt. So to speak for helping a "friendly country"
                        Quote: bayard
                        And yes, by the end of the 80s - the beginning of the 90s, Syria had already fully recovered and could put a lot of things into account of paying off debts - citrus fruits, textiles, etc.
                        Look about Egypt for yourself in supermarkets - what they could supply.

                        In the 80s, the only citrus fruits on the shelves of Soviet stores were oranges and tangerines from the Jaffa company. About which everyone said that they were Moroccan, but then it turned out that they were Israeli. I haven't seen anything Syrian or Egyptian in stores.
                      2. bayard
                        bayard 17 August 2020 23: 28
                        0
                        Quote: borberd
                        And then the Soviet specialists were harshly "asked" to leave Egypt. So to speak for helping a "friendly country"

                        It was a mutually beneficial deal with the United States to exchange South Vietnam for Egypt. Egypt and so the Union was already across the throat then - a suitcase without a handle, and therefore exchanged. He ate a LOT of resources, lost wars in such a way that we had to keep there up to a combined army (at least a corps) to save the great warriors of the Nile.
                        But the debts that remained behind them were debts. True, like everyone else - with a deferred payment. So in the early 90s, the maturity date approached and the USSR would begin to receive all the expected buns ... in the form of goods as redemption.
                        Quote: borberd
                        In the 80s, the only citrus fruits on the shelves of Soviet stores were oranges and tangerines from the firm - Jaffa

                        Who needs to know about it. yes
                        Quote: borberd
                        I haven't seen anything Syrian or Egyptian in stores.

                        So then (before the fall of the USSR) the payments did not come yet. And then - there was no state, which was supposed to ... I had to talk for a long time. Someone paid off right away, someone exchanged debts for prefrequencies (mines, oil fields, etc. instead of "writing off debts"), and someone simply had to write off, because - unrecoverable. But also - in exchange for preferences ...
                        But of course they are to blame - nehru (a useful plant) was to ruin the country.
          2. bayard
            bayard 16 August 2020 21: 51
            +2
            Chinese air defense systems and fighters are not competitive with ours. China has no engines and their air defense systems are inferior. The Su-30 and Su-35 will definitely be in the order, the S-400 will also. Perhaps the MiG-35. And they need such equipment ... not less than two or three hundred fighters, several regimental sets of heavy air defense systems, coastal missile systems "Bal" and "Bastion" and much more.
            And China will not be left without orders. Military transport and training aircraft, warships, drones ...
            Iran is a very good and capacious market.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 17 August 2020 10: 07
              0
              Quote: bayard
              And they need such equipment ... at least two or three hundred fighters

              They will not master that much financially. At least two squadrons of Su-35 and 3-4 Su-30. And given the need for quick rearmament, I think the J-10 will be ordered. Here are the S-400, Ball and Bastions in significant quantities. Especially the S-400. they need to replace the S-75 and S-200. And Pantsir-C1 is also necessary. Iran has only 10 of them. The UAE has even more, 50 pieces.
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              2. bayard
                bayard 17 August 2020 16: 58
                0
                Quote: CSKA
                They will not master that much financially.

                They have been waiting for this opportunity for five years, so they must have been preparing, including financially. In addition, such deliveries are always stretched out in time and at once full amounts for everything you need will not be needed. Who same with Iran there is an agreement \ agreement "Oil in exchange for goods", so part of the amount Iran can cover with oil shipments. Russia has two largest refineries in India and a network of about 4000 filling stations throughout the country. These refineries receive oil from Iran, Iraq and Venezuela (heavy Venezuelan is mixed with light Arabian and the output is the entire range of liquid fuels and bitumen).
                Quote: CSKA
                At least two squadrons of Su-35 and 3-4 Su-30.

                Approximately this number of heavy fighters was called (about 75 units), but since then times and circumstances have changed. Appetites for the hard could grow.
                Quote: CSKA
                And given the need for quick rearmament, I think the J-10 will be ordered.

                So many thought, but then the MiG-35 was not ready, and TWO main points were not taken into account:
                - China does not have its own engines for the J-10 and in the future there may be problems with remotorization and repair of these engines (but even if such a deal takes place, Russia will take its jackpot for the engines);
                - In the case of purchasing Chinese light fighters, unification with weapons (primarily missile ones) will not work, and this is inconvenience, cost overruns, training of specialists for servicing weapons from completely different manufacturers.
                It would be more reasonable to buy combat fighters (and combat training ones) from one manufacturer / supplier (Su-35, Su-30, MiG-35 and Yak-130).
                China, however, will not be offended here either - except for a complete carte blanche in the Iranian economy, it could supply (and I think will supply) warships (corvettes and frigates), military transport aircraft and much more.
                But in air defense, fighter aircraft and coastal anti-ship missile systems, he is not a competitor to us. And I don’t think there will be excessive competition on the Iranian market - both Russia and China are its guardian angels. And it was the voices of Russia and China that did not allow the UN arms embargo on Iran to be extended ... just a few days ago.
                So Iran is obliged to us, and it will be grateful for such purchases, in which everything is probably already distributed among the patron countries.
            2. nerd.su
              nerd.su 17 August 2020 13: 27
              0
              Quote: bayard
              China has no engines and their air defense systems are inferior

              but the price of Chinese technology is more favorable than ours. And after all they take "without engines". Wonderful are your works, O Lord ...
              1. bayard
                bayard 17 August 2020 17: 26
                0
                A cheap price does not always guarantee quality, and Iran will have to fight at any time, so the choice for heavy fighters will definitely be for the Su-35 and Su-30 (no less than 75 units). There were opinions that the Iranians could choose the Chinese J-10 as light fighters, and there was this opinion ... the Chinese - they say Russia does not have a modern light fighter (there have been talks for a long time). But since then, times have passed and we have something to offer - the MiG-35 or the MiG-29M1 \ 2 (in Egypt they are very happy with it). And our industry is ready to provide quite vigorous delivery rates - the director of the ASZ in Lukhovitsy reported a couple of years ago that after the modernization of the enterprise, his plant is ready to ensure the supply of 36 MiG-35s per year.
                And the combat value of the MiG-35 is significantly higher than that of the J-10.
                And Iran, as I said, will have to fight at any moment.
                And the unification of the weapons of combat fighters is also worth a lot.

                Quote: bot.su
                And after all they take "without engines".

                Because Russia is a reliable supplier of aircraft engines. Even if they buy from the Chinese (of which there are great doubts), Russia will still take its jackpot - for the engines ... And it is difficult to call this plane Chinese in full - the basis, the glider - Israel, its revision and adaptation to the Russian AL-31F - TsAGI.
                Everything will be fine - we will not quarrel with partners over orders, I think everything has been distributed there for a long time.
                1. nerd.su
                  nerd.su 18 August 2020 09: 38
                  0
                  Your words would, yes ayatollah in the ears ...
          3. CSKA
            CSKA 17 August 2020 10: 02
            +2
            Quote: borberd
            even Europe has a higher chance of making money on Iranians than you

            )))) Will the EU sell weapons to Iran? The USA will not allow it. What else will they sell them? Civil aircraft? Already sold, and then after the US sanctions, the deal was canceled. So why buy something from the EU if they disrupt deals? I will earn RF and PRC. Both us and China have something to offer.
            1. borberd
              borberd 17 August 2020 11: 13
              -2
              Because buying goods from the EU is, first of all, politics and access to technologies that neither Russia nor China will sell. And the Iranians need technology, not weapons, first. Russia in sanctions as in silk, and itself is not able to provide itself with technologies. China itself tyrit technology where it can, but does not share. The Iranians have long wanted to drive a wedge between the United States and Europe, so they will wave carrots in front of the Europeans. You may and will be able to sell several S-400 divisions and naval anti-ship missiles to the Iranians, maybe even tanks, but they will buy medium-range airplanes and air defense systems from the Chinese, like a lot of other things.
              1. bayard
                bayard 17 August 2020 18: 14
                0
                Quote: borberd
                access to technologies that neither Russia nor China will sell. And Iranians need technology, not weapons, first.

                Iranians need both technology and weapons. moreover, weapons (fighters and other aviation only yesterday). And where did you get the idea that we will not provide technology? They gave India - they assemble Su-30 from our vehicle kits and everyone is happy, the tanks too - T-90 vehicle kits, Bramos missiles ...
                And Iran assembled our T-72 with vehicle sets, and T-90 - WILL COLLECT.
                And we will supply fighters - the Su-35, the Su-30, and the MiG-35.
                And we will supply car sets.
                And we will train specialists.
                And rigging with assembly equipment.
                This (readiness for this) has already been announced by officials.
                Iran will be pleased.
                And our military-industrial complex - and even more so.
              2. CSKA
                CSKA 18 August 2020 16: 15
                0
                Quote: borberd
                Because buying goods from the EU is primarily about politics and access to technology

                )))))))))) What technologies? Do you think that if Rafali and Eurofighters buy, they will start producing them themselves?)))))) Don't talk nonsense.
      2. Shimshon
        Shimshon 16 August 2020 12: 37
        -3
        As a result, minus a lot, a lot of money for some kind of social projects, subsidies, pensions, benefits. Vaughn above, your opponent offered to supply equipment together with Russian crews (though he regretted his sofa). You don't feel sorry for your own people, for the sake of a "good" purpose to annoy Americans and Jews. Of course, these guys will not be able to stop the attack with their lives, but Alconaft, and his desires, do not take such "trifles" into account.
  2. siberalt
    siberalt 16 August 2020 08: 57
    +9
    Most of all Iranian S-400s need to be feared by Ukraine. belay
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 11: 22
      +5
      Quote: siberalt
      Most of all Iranian S-400s need to be feared by Ukraine. belay

      Jews in power in Kiev probably .. hi After all, if the United States -Israel will receive cabbage soup for BV, etc. The revision of the world order will begin, etc.
  3. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 August 2020 19: 30
    +2
    Quote: Black
    Tehran will definitely buy this weapon

    Buy then buy, if the striped sanctions are not dragged through again. Only when will they receive it? Power is not rubber!
    A contract was signed with India for 5,43 billion dollars, an advance payment of 15% of the cost was received, 5 regiments C 400, delivery after 2020.
    The Russian Ministry of Defense will purchase 3 C 400 regiments, the contract has been signed.
    About 10 applications are being considered, so there is a "real queue" for these complexes. hi
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 16 August 2020 07: 31
    12
    Well this is a direct threat to Israel!
    What if Iran needs to be bombed?
    Well it can be screwed up ...
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 12: 36
      +1
      Quote: Victor_B
      Well this is a direct threat to Israel!
      What if Iran needs to be bombed?
      Well it can be screwed up ...

      Do you earn a Vitek rating? Do you remember the word RUSSIA with a small letter here you wrote to see the nerves could not stand it? And now the patriot is right again gee gee?
      And how many of you here have come running cunningly? ALL generals and colonels .. well well
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 16 August 2020 07: 31
    -4
    The United States and Israel fear the supply of S-400 air defense systems to Iran
    Of course they are afraid, but they are not afraid for sure.
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 12: 37
      -5
      Quote: Observer2014
      The United States and Israel fear the supply of S-400 air defense systems to Iran
      Of course they are afraid, but they are not afraid for sure.

      Do you know Israel so well in your Sochi where they fled from Ukraine?
  • askort154
    askort154 16 August 2020 07: 38
    12
    Something our Israeli "colleagues" are not on the VO site for a couple of weeks. All disappeared as if on command.
    If they don't show up on their own topic now, then I will begin to worry about them. Is COVID-19
    so intimidated them that they are afraid to communicate with us, realizing that we are knocking on the keys without masks and gloves ?! Or were they dismissed by their bosses? crying
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 16 August 2020 07: 48
      0
      Yes, like Mark Avelyevich flickered in the morning ... request
    2. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 07: 55
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      Something our Israeli "colleagues" are not on the VO site for a couple of weeks. All disappeared as if on command.

      Yes, at least you can talk calmly, otherwise they will swoop in and, as always, refute everything And we will still owe them money! laughing
      1. Shimshon
        Shimshon 16 August 2020 08: 54
        -2
        Quote: Alkonavt
        Quote: askort154
        Something our Israeli "colleagues" are not on the VO site for a couple of weeks. All disappeared as if on command.

        otherwise they will swoop in and, as always, they will refute everything laughing

        What do you mean, for example, I love Russian folk tales, and epics ... especially about Jews, and Persians and Arabs.
    3. Sergei 23
      Sergei 23 16 August 2020 08: 57
      +1
      It's just that IN ,, it loses its waters, flashes so to speak, and this applies not only to the quality of articles on the resu.
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 August 2020 09: 04
      +8
      Quote: askort154
      Something our Israeli "colleagues" are not on the VO site for a couple of weeks. All disappeared as if on command.
      Firstly, the Israelis appeared here for a designated period of time. Then the topics on VO in the late time are mostly not of interest to us. Little about weapons, little about military history. Your showdown with the Americans or the Poles, as well as the mess in Belarus, is of interest to us as you are reporting a storm on the coast of Brazil.
      1. Alkonavt
        Alkonavt 16 August 2020 09: 53
        +5
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: askort154
        Something our Israeli "colleagues" are not on the VO site for a couple of weeks. All disappeared as if on command.
        Firstly, the Israelis appeared here for a designated period of time. Then the topics on VO in the late time are mostly not of interest to us. Little about weapons, little about military history. Your showdown with the Americans or the Poles, as well as the mess in Belarus, is of interest to us as you are reporting a storm on the coast of Brazil.

        Good answer Aron (no sarcasm) hi
        And if we deliver S-400s to Iran, how will you react?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 August 2020 10: 50
          +4
          Quote: Alkonavt

          Good answer Aron (no sarcasm) hi
          And if we deliver S-400s to Iran, how will you react?

          Well, approximately in the same way as you react to the delivery of "Spike-Nlos" to Ukraine.
          1. Alkonavt
            Alkonavt 16 August 2020 11: 11
            +2
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Well, approximately in the same way as you react to the delivery of "Spike-Nlos" to Ukraine.

            Well, your power was seized there, and Bandera guards you with torchlight processions and other attributes))))
            A paradox? Well I don't think soldier

            Here he is Oh wei in all its glory Aron wink
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 16 August 2020 07: 40
    0
    Let them be afraid !!!!
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 16 August 2020 07: 43
    15
    "Tamara and I are walking in pairs" - the US and Israel are concerned about the possibility of Iran purchasing S-400. Why bother if it's defensive? It means that while hatching a plan to attack Iran, they understand that it will not work with impunity.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 August 2020 08: 41
      -1
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      "Tamara and I are walking in pairs" - the US and Israel are concerned about the possibility of Iran purchasing S-400. Why bother if it's defensive? It means that while hatching a plan to attack Iran, they understand that it will not work with impunity.

      What do you fear the creation of missile defense areas in Europe? They are defensive. Do you want to bomb the Europeans?
      1. Kostyar
        Kostyar 16 August 2020 09: 04
        +6
        What do you fear the creation of missile defense areas in Europe? They are defensive. Do you want to bomb the Europeans?

        ABM "defensive", at the click of it turns into an offensive ...
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 16 August 2020 09: 26
        +8
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        What do you fear the creation of missile defense areas in Europe? They are defensive. Do you want to bomb the Europeans?

        We just know for sure that this missile defense system in Europe is being created not against Iran, but against Russia. Moreover, proactively, it is created not by the Europeans, but by the Americans. Don't lie. Iran honestly says that it intends to improve its air defense against Israel. If Russia is not noticed in striking the European part, then Israel in the B. East has "naughty" enough to get out of trust, and completely. hi
      3. venik
        venik 16 August 2020 11: 27
        +7
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        What do you fear the creation of missile defense areas in Europe? They are defensive. Do you want to bomb the Europeans?

        =======
        Well no! Just VPU Mark 41 "with a slight movement of the hand" can turn into drums systems (unlike the S-400). It is enough just to load there instead of anti-missiles - "Tomahawks" (including those with a nuclear warhead)!
        Can you catch the difference, Aaron? Or is it still unknown to you?
    2. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Why bother if it's defensive? It means that while hatching a plan to attack Iran, they understand that it will not work with impunity.

      Here Dmitry don't go to the grandmother)))) This is the plan they have! And if not for Russia, it would have long since turned into Iraq-Libya .. ISIS based on Iraq-Syria and others, we destroyed our VKS and special services .. Now the second version of Iran is gnawing them and does not allow them to live in peace, to rob
      These are the things that Ambassador Griboyedov has done ..)))
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 16 August 2020 07: 50
    11
    What to fear? They have invisible planes.
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      What to fear? They have invisible planes.

      how in Yugoslavia? lol
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 16 August 2020 07: 52
    +9
    I remember the old joke:
    Someone wrote a three-letter word to Rabinovich on the door. Rabinovich did not erase it, but simply added "Bolshoi" to the front!
    And how the meaning has changed! How the inscription began to play!


    So, in the source the article is called The United States and Israel prepared the F-35 to attack the S-400. hi

    https://m.lenta.ru/news/2020/08/16/f35/amp/
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 08: 04
      +4
      Quote: A. Privalov
      So, in the source the article is called the United States and Israel prepared the F-35 for an attack on the S-400

      Good targets for the S-400! You don't want to share small things .. And the anecdote is also good)))) Do you know how to inflate an elephant out of small things .. bully
    2. Gargantua
      Gargantua 16 August 2020 08: 47
      +3
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Someone wrote a three-letter word to Rabinovich on the door. Rabinovich did not erase it, but simply added "Bolshoi" to the front!
      And how the meaning has changed! How the inscription began to play!

      So, in the source the article is called the United States and Israel prepared the F-35 for an attack on the S-400.

      good laughing
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 16 August 2020 08: 04
    15
    Why not put something? Turkey is allowed, but Iran is not allowed? It's unfair like that .. repeat
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 09: 56
      +5
      Quote: Tank Hard
      Why not put something? Turkey is allowed, but Iran is not allowed? It's unfair like that .. repeat

      Well, here the answer is unambiguous in Iran and can apply !!!!! There often, over their territory, all kinds of "invisible" objects fly incomprehensible lol
  • alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 16 August 2020 08: 21
    +8
    Hmm .. And how the Jews will strike Iran 2000th. There is the shortest route to Iran, more than XNUMX km. Well, they seem to be invisible .. hehehe .. But the tanker does not have such characteristics
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 August 2020 09: 33
      +5
      To fly is, once again, the smallest of all problems ... To return is also.
      And the air defense is not too long delay.
      Here is to bomb the underground objects ... recourse
  • Tigerrr
    Tigerrr 16 August 2020 08: 21
    +5
    The partners were stabbed to death only from rumors. Nice damn it!
  • Asad
    Asad 16 August 2020 08: 38
    -2
    With a discount! With installments! But with the obligation not to smear and not be afraid, I wanted to write another word!
    1. Shimshon
      Shimshon 16 August 2020 08: 49
      -5
      They don’t smear, Ukrainian Boeing will confirm.
      1. Varaga
        Varaga 16 August 2020 09: 09
        +3
        Evidence says there was no Buk. The explosion that destroyed MH17 was under the instrument panel on the left. And directed towards the PIC. The VU was laid under the panel from the side of the KVS. And not a single I-beam penetration on the entire plane. And in the warhead missiles "Buk" PE-I-beams - 1870 pieces. And that is precisely why Russian investigators and military experts were not admitted to the crash case. So there is no need here "la-la" about "Buk". And the Boeing is not Ukrainian, but Malaysian. "Sacred sacrifice" to turn everyone against Russia. Balabolki "God forgive me" Western ...
        1. KCA
          KCA 16 August 2020 09: 48
          +4
          Without going into the fantastic details of your version of the MH17 crash, the comrade apparently wrote about the Ukrainian 737 shot down by Iran
          1. Varaga
            Varaga 16 August 2020 10: 06
            +1
            Fantasy or not - time will tell. In the meantime, the nature of the holes in the cockpit and the direction of the flight of the fragments indicate that there was no Buk at all. But the VU under the panel - yes. Let's wait and see which of us is right. I even know who ...
            1. Mikhail Ya2
              Mikhail Ya2 16 August 2020 13: 48
              -1
              So Almaz-Antey is all lying?
          2. Shimshon
            Shimshon 16 August 2020 11: 00
            +2
            Quote: KCA
            Without going into the fantastic details of your version of the MH17 crash, the comrade apparently wrote about the Ukrainian 737 shot down by Iran

            So it is, I'm talking about the downed civilian side over Tehran.
        2. Shimshon
          Shimshon 16 August 2020 11: 05
          0
          I mean flight PS752, but what are you talking about?
  • Ramon Merkader
    Ramon Merkader 16 August 2020 08: 41
    +4
    "F-35 has the ability to destroy the s-400" ... Well, the SVD also has the ability to destroy a five-kopeck coin from a distance of 1000 meters, so what? After all, the question is about the stability of the result, especially if the s-400 will cover the s-350, tori / shells. And in the amount of "thirty-fifths" spent on this action.
    Hmm. Torah ... I wonder if the Torah orders the Jews to shoot at the Torahs?)))
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 August 2020 09: 12
      +3
      "especially if the s-400 will cover the s-350, tori / shells" ////
      ----
      And who will cover the Carapace? smile
      1. Ramon Merkader
        Ramon Merkader 16 August 2020 09: 14
        +3
        Masknets of course)
        Although, electronic warfare means can also.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 16 August 2020 09: 18
          +5
          AND! Then the chain is lined up: masknet-shell-torus-s-350-s-300-s-400.
          Then there is nothing to catch the F-35 ...
          But if the mask network breaks ... "domino principle" laughing
          1. Ramon Merkader
            Ramon Merkader 16 August 2020 09: 23
            +2
            Laughter laughter, and the mask to the top with fur. It's troublesome (S)
        2. 3danimal
          3danimal 16 August 2020 09: 31
          -4
          Then who will cover the EW funds from the PRR? When are 2 dozen of them launched?
          1. Ramon Merkader
            Ramon Merkader 16 August 2020 09: 35
            +1
            Can the shell only cover the s-400? Some kind of rubbish, right?
            And another question, two dozen prr from what distance will they be launched? Clearly beyond the reach of the XNUMX, huh?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 16 August 2020 10: 08
              0
              Yes, it's not about the air defense, but about the American elections - if Trump wins again, which is doubtful, then they will burn Iran - with losses, of course, but all objects guarded by any air defense will be destroyed. If not, the question is whether they are attacked at all.
              1. Liam
                Liam 16 August 2020 10: 16
                11
                hi


                Trump?)) Under Trump, the United States did not start any new DBs and scaled down its military presence wherever possible. Trump fights only with economic sanctions.
                As for Iran, Trump had a 100% reason to strike if he wanted to after Iran's missile attack on US bases in Iraq on the night the Ukrainian airliner was shot down, but he did not. So Iran should pray with both hands for Trump's victory
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 16 August 2020 10: 28
                  +9
                  It's right. Trump doesn't like to fight.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 16 August 2020 10: 40
                    +6
                    In fact, an undisturbed Iran is beneficial to almost everyone now. The Iranian threat in the region ultimately made, until recently, impossible for the strategic stabilization of the region.
                    In the first few years, the topic that was there for 70 years, the central Palestine, the Gaza Strip, Arafat, Hamas, practically disappeared from the agenda - that's all. Nobody cares about them and practically calmed down
                    Secondly, it forced the second most important Arab country, the UAE, to recognize Israel the other day, with the tacit consent of Saudia and the tacit approval of all the others. Only Iran and Turkey will survive. Which are not Arabs and all their strategies in the region are in the dustbin now
                    1. A. Privalov
                      A. Privalov 16 August 2020 11: 01
                      +3
                      Quote: Liam
                      Now. The Iranian threat in the region ultimately made, until recently, impossible to strategically stabilize the region.

                      Right. Today, even the President of Lebanon (!) Has declared that it is time to normalize relations with Israel.
                    2. Mikhail Ya2
                      Mikhail Ya2 16 August 2020 13: 50
                      +1
                      Next in line are Bahrain, Morocco, Oman and Sudan
                  2. Varaga
                    Varaga 19 August 2020 02: 35
                    0
                    Because "buy and sell".
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 16 August 2020 11: 00
                  +1
                  Greetings! hi
                  Write everything correctly, except for one thing - Trump will not fight BEFORE the elections. If the second elections are proclaimed by the same ones who did the first, they will be bombed))
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 16 August 2020 11: 17
                    +3
                    Trump was financed by the oil and gas sector and ordinary workers to whom he promised to return the production to the country.
                    He helped the first by blocking SP-2 and, in general, restrictions on Russian gas and, accordingly, facilitating access to the richest European market, as well as denouncing the nuclear deal and imposing sanctions on Iran, which practically removed it from the oil market. The other day sarcastically thanked Russia and Arabs from OPEC. who, by their agreement to cut production, saved the American oil industry).
                    And the second - the increasing sanctions on China and in general on everyone who can and cannot.
                    So no hardcore, just sanctions. In the same Syria, I took the better half and kindly allowed Turkey and Russia to measure their personal belongings, as he literally said, in a large Syrian sandbox. Divide the sand. This is almost literally his statement if that. According to Libya, the same thing, play for health.
                    Why should he spend money on the war with Iran if his main goal - to remove it from the market - has been achieved free of charge by sanctions. He is a businessman. War is a cost. And without oil revenues Iran will not last long
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 16 August 2020 11: 43
                      +1
                      Ordinary workers chose it, and was financed by a friend of Natanyahu Adelson))
                      1. Liam
                        Liam 16 August 2020 11: 54
                        +1
                        I meant his electoral base. Without them, all funding would go to waste). But the failure with Covid nullified almost all his merits and showed that he was not able to lead the country. Therefore, he will most likely lose.

                        He, of course, did a lot of superfluous things, but even after his departure, the same democrats will keep a lot of what he has done, both in the BV and especially in relations with China. TP will not be given) and tighten the nuts even stronger with the Russian Federation and Turkey
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 16 August 2020 12: 25
                        +3
                        With the EU - I agree, with Turkey - not a fact, about China - I don't know, about Iran - we'll see))
          2. 3danimal
            3danimal 16 August 2020 15: 56
            -2
            Under the cover of the curvature of the Earth, from a low altitude. Capturing the target after launch .. You just need to scout the approximate location of the air defense system.
  • Varaga
    Varaga 16 August 2020 08: 58
    -2
    The United States and Israel fear the supply of S-400 air defense systems to Iran

    Of course they are! If Iran buys the S-400, it will not take the Persians off the hook. Namely, this is what pin-dos are counting on. They don't want to die. They only love to clap their hands and laugh when others die.
    Still remember this:
    - We came - he died! Aha ha ha ...
    I am sure that it is not even necessary to say who this "saying" belongs to.
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 16 August 2020 09: 35
      0
      Do you pass off the desire to save as many soldiers as cowardice? You can recall Pavel Grachev, who talked about the losses in Chechnya ..
      MMA fighters, boxers in the USA are very perfumed. How is this possible?
      1. Varaga
        Varaga 16 August 2020 09: 55
        +1
        Yes - this is cowardice. They are afraid that the coffins will fly and taxpayers will inadvertently take them off the throne. If they want to save the lives of their soldiers, let them not go with their "democracy" around the world.
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 16 August 2020 16: 01
          0
          Then a disregard for their own - courage ??
          Don't you confuse cowardice and responsibility? It is always wiser to "waste" cars and shells.
          1. Varaga
            Varaga 19 August 2020 02: 31
            0
            I do not confuse. Not always "machines and shells" are able to perform the task "themselves".
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 19 August 2020 04: 15
      0
      They don't want to die.

      Are their boxers and MMA fighters afraid of punches ?? (Simple analogy.)
      If a person spends all his time on exercises, in a certain environment (very different from civil) he can and can do a lot. An example is the failed operation in Mogadishu ("the fall of the Black Hawk"). Two snipers voluntarily landed to protect the helicopter crew from the advancing militants. This is essentially a suicidal decision. And voluntary.
      The desire of the command to fight with equipment and ammunition in the first place, saving personnel, should not be considered a weakness.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 August 2020 09: 04
    +1
    Tehran has already made attempts to purchase S-400 air defense systems from Russia, but Moscow rejected this request, since there was a ban on the supply of weapons to Iran.
    There is not much left until October 2020. Moreover, the UN Security Council rejected the US resolution -
    The UN Security Council rejected a US resolution to extend the embargo on arms supplies to Iran indefinitely. Only the Dominican Republic supported the American side. China and Russia voted against the US proposal, while the other 11 countries abstained.
    ... And then we'll see what list of weapons Iran will ask for. I believe the Russian Federation will not be able to refuse them. wink
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 August 2020 09: 17
    +2
    So it seems that only in October the embargo will be legally lifted from Iran. And until that time, Pompey promised to lie down but not lift the embargo. We eagerly believe that the presidential race will begin at the end of September against the background of the caronovirus. I am glad that we still think what to sell to Iran, and these two from the casket, identical in face, are already thinking how to counteract this. I have such a suspicion that they know something about the performance characteristics of the C400 that we ourselves do not know. C400 for the bottom is like a red rag for a bull. Advertising is the engine of progress, thanks dear Jewish comrades, more often Please mention С400, or I'll write to the sport lotto.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 16 August 2020 09: 26
    +4
    The Israeli lobby in the United States failed to extend the arms embargo to Iran. Let's go the other way
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 10: 02
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      The Israeli lobby in the United States failed to extend the arms embargo to Iran. Let's go the other way

      Well, these are able to wriggle out of any situation .. We would like to be in Russia! bully
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 16 August 2020 10: 05
        +3
        Quote: Alkonavt
        Well, these are able to wriggle out of any situation .. We would like to be in Russia!

        Israel itself never twisted, everything is terrifyingly straightforward. If they could not agree, they immediately begin to prepare for destruction. That there are other states, borders, treaties, but they didn’t care about such an American sponsor.
        1. Alkonavt
          Alkonavt 16 August 2020 12: 42
          -5
          Quote: APASUS
          Israel itself has never turned out, everything is terribly straightforward.

          Deflection accepted. hi
          Quote: APASUS
          If they could not come to an agreement, they immediately begin to prepare for destruction. That there are other states, borders, treaties, but they didn’t care about such an American sponsor.

          And why is it so impossible for Russia as for Israel?
          After all, they are bombing Russia by bombing us and they are also sneering here, like, well, try to answer ..
          These are the things that happen in synagogues in Russia bully
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 16 August 2020 17: 06
            0
            Quote: Alkonavt
            Deflection accepted.

            This is a statement of fact, dear one, if you don't get it!
            Quote: Alkonavt
            And why is it so impossible for Russia as for Israel?

            The West is waiting for this. Then the Western media will blind us not to an aggressive nation, as they are now trying to convince everyone, but to make them terrorists! Well, then to the fullest, the terrorists must be destroyed and some of them will openly create a front to fight the Russians. Justify any of their actions!
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 16 August 2020 12: 03
    +2
    Yes, I would give them free of charge, and even with our calculations to boot .. bully The USA and Israel in general on the BV have become insolent ..

    Is it worth it for free, and even with calculations. Who knows what's on their minds? Yesterday I watched Igor Panarin's video on Iran, interesting news.
    1. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 16 August 2020 12: 46
      -3
      The whole Internet is crammed with such videos .. But others block and ban everyone who is trying to oppose something ..
      These are the things in the Jewish Autonomous Region in Russia !!! laughing
      1. Alkonavt
        Alkonavt 16 August 2020 15: 31
        -2
        The Jewish theme is always dangerous here on VO..he hehe Only the most courageous and reckless can comment on it wassat The people quieted down ha ha ha ran Batka to spread rot and gain rating)))
        And the fate of Old Man, etc. it is solved here.! Runners)))
        Previously, no one ran away from such articles))))
        Well, let the goats run around .... Shepherds drive the herd here and there !!!!!!!
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 16 August 2020 16: 57
          +1
          Quote: Alkonavt
          The Jewish theme is always dangerous here on VO..he hehe Only the most courageous and reckless can comment on it

          The Jewish theme has set the teeth on edge. We commented it up and down. And in Belarus the fate of the state is at stake. So do not judge strictly forum people. hi
  • Danila46
    Danila46 16 August 2020 19: 18
    0
    I personally imagine the following scenario:
    Russia will of course sell Iran the s-400. But when this cargo touches the Iranian land, it will be safely destroyed. Still in the package. So he will not represent a danger, and the reputation of the Russian weapon will not suffer. The main thing for Russia is to get "money forward" ...
  • Kosh
    Kosh 16 August 2020 20: 25
    +1
    I do not understand why to drag such nonsense then. Air defense systems generally do not fall under the UN restrictions still in force against Iran, which is why Iran received the S-300PMU-2 in 2016.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 16 August 2020 21: 55
    0
    According to analysts, the capabilities of the American fifth-generation F-35 fighter can destroy Russian anti-aircraft systems.

    So what is the article about then? According to analysts' forecasts, Israeli Jews have nothing to worry about ...
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 18 August 2020 19: 54
    0
    Cho for nonsense? As regards defensive armament, Iran has never been sanctioned by the UN Security Council. The story with the supply of S-300 is the initiative of Dmitry A. Medvedev. As for combat aviation, yes. But the S-400s have never been sanctioned. It is possible that Moscow did not consider it appropriate to sell them at some point in time. But this does not mean that there were any sanctions.

    Plus, there are rumors that Helios was created, among other things, on the basis of information transmitted by Tehran to Moscow as a result of the "down-to-earth" American drones. And this speaks of the mutual high level of relations in the field of military-technical cooperation.