Lukashenko "remembered" about the Union State and announced the need to contact Putin

President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko commented on what is happening in the country. It should be reminded that mass protests in the country began against the background of the announcement of the results of the voting on the presidential candidacy. According to official data, Lukashenka won the elections with a huge lead over his competitors (over 80%). Many residents of the republic considered that the results were falsified and took to the streets of large cities. Labor collectives of Belarusian factories, including MTZ and BelAZ, began to join the protest actions.

During today's meeting, Alexander Lukashenko touched upon the socio-political situation in Belarus and "remembered" the Union State. According to Lukashenka, it is clear what is happening “in the depths”. From his statement:

We do not need to lull us with peaceful actions and demonstrations. Elements of external interference have already appeared by the textbooks of color revolutions.

Lukashenka said that it was necessary to contact Vladimir Putin.

President of Belarus:

Aggression against Belarus is unfolding. We need to contact Putin, the President of Russia, so that I can talk to him now.
According to Lukashenka, today the protection of Belarus is “no less than the protection of the entire Union State”.

Lukashenko:

If the Belarusians can't stand it, the wave will roll there.

Apparently, Lukashenko has in mind the Russian Federation - as the direction "where the wave will roll."

According to the statement of the President of Belarus, those who walk on the Belarusian streets today do not understand this, but those who coordinate and direct them perfectly understand.

Comments

[RUnnm]

Nothing is sobering as a swaying chair under your own heel!
Well, after all, an experienced politician, could he really think that flirting with the West can lead to at least something good?
Well, better late than never ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: RUnnm

Nothing is sobering as a swaying chair under your own heel.

Yeah ... and then "partnership relations", such as "not fraternal" ... someone has studied it well and almost brought it to direct accusations of Russia's interference ... However, it almost does not count. How can I help him now, you fool? Do not bring in the troops ... Help specialists, in adjacent spaces. The agents "spolitaya" to calculate and hand over to the KGB, "activists" and funding lines too ... Twist their "Rains", otherwise they are so dispersed, it's hard to breathe ...
Something like this.

[Thrifty]

And what should we do with him now? Shit on everyone and everything, but now Russia help out? Not to see the wheelchair of the throne, it is already almost blazing under the guz-n of the bow, and "Bolivar will not stand two" ...

[Tatyana]

Lukashenko "remembered" about the Union State and announced the need to contact Putin

This is a reasonable and competent decision on the part of Lukashenka.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Thrifty

And what should we do with him now? Shit on everyone and everything, but now Russia help out?

No need to flirt and arrange dances on the bones! People learn from mistakes and try to correct mistakes.

Russia and Belarus need to adhere to a wise mutually beneficial coordinated policy from the point of view of preserving the national security of our countries from provocative attacks from the United States and the collective West on our states, peoples and countries.

[ancient]

Quote: Tatiana

No need to flirt and arrange dances on the bones!

Nobody is scoffing, but expresses their opinion ... or is this already "impossible" with us?

Quote: Tatiana

People learn from mistakes and try to correct mistakes.

These are not mistakes ... but this ... "sly..popat" "calling names" ... Forgot how it ended for Yanukovych y \ this manner of .. "behavior"?

[Tatyana]

Quote: ancient

Quote: Tatyana No need to flirt and arrange dances on the bones!

Nobody is scoffing, but expresses their opinion ... or is this already "impossible" with us?

An opinion based only on emotions is not constructive and does not contribute to a peaceful solution of the problem, but only contributes to the further provocative swing of the situation in the country. Do you personally need it?

In the video, the strike participant announced the demands of the striking plant workers.
1. Unconditional release of detained protesters. Absolute release of all political prisoners, including those detained for 4 days of participation in peaceful rallies.
2. Cancellation of the CEC decision on the election results. And new re-elections
3. Removal of the current government. Dismissal of the incumbent president.
At the same time, the strike participant complains that about 20 people of the plant workers at a "peaceful" rally outside the plant were seriously beaten by the police. However, at the same time he did not say a word about the organized groups that during the so-called. "Peaceful" rallies attacked the police and maimed road traffic accidents and other police officers - people in uniform. That there were deliberate raids of demonstrators' cars on the guards, that stones were thrown at them, they were beaten with iron fittings, Molotov cocktails were used to fire firecrackers at the police. But these people were on duty.

For the fact that the people were beaten as a result of not at all "peaceful" and unauthorized marches and rallies and an armed confrontation with the police in the Republic of Belarus, let the demonstrators say thank you to Tikhanovskaya, who made all this mess with the STATE REVOROT in Belarus! Well, thanks to the existing foreign NGOs in the country.

On August 14 MINSK MTZ DIRECTOR HAS BEEN WAITING FOR THE PRIME MINISTER, PEOPLE ARE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION. SUBSCRIBE

[ancient]

Quote: Tatiana

Do you personally need this?

I personally do not, but ... "It's a shame for the state!" (for our naturally)
For some reason you have forgotten that "everything" has its own reason, everything has its own result. "
The Law of Cause and Effect states that each cause or effect causes a specific reaction or result.
As they say: "You reap what you sow!"
You write everything correctly ... but for some reason you forget that the "administrative resource" of the dad .. well, very much .. "overdid it" or he thought that if our "Bucket" can gain 146%, then why should he immediately get 40% ... and then ... and more
Putin does not have so much and Old Man .. suddenly has ... do not tell my sneakers.
And then the people bam ... yes, almost all of them came to vote ... and that ... polling stations were closed so that all the people would not have time to vote ... you saw what queues were standing
Last time I saw such a mass of citizens at the funeral of Brezhnev
It is clear that the "stakeholders" act in their own interests, but ..... have you seen how many people come out? And in the regional centers?
Is that .. "selfless love" for the dad?
And with his "statements" at the moment Lukashenko, as someone correctly put it ... "extinguishes the fire with kerosene"
And in relation to our "33rd heroes" (this is how they are already "called" by the people) Lukashenka did ... no words ... one mat
I already wrote ... I had to stand in the sea-food position and .. crawl along the Minsk highway to the first-hand one, banging my head on the roadbed and lamenting .. "Forgive Father ...
I don’t discuss the actions of the security forces of Belarus ... they performed their functional duties ..
I did not see a single moment that they themselves would move on the crowd ... but on the contrary ... everywhere and always ... therefore, the "crowd" still received little.
But in a country where, in fact, there is no law ... everything happens ... naturally.
What will happen next ... I don’t know .... I don’t even venture to predict .... since there are only two options ..... in short, so as not to deliver ... the events of September-October 1993 .. Moscow.

[Tatyana]

Quote: ancient

And then the people bam ... yes, almost all of them came to vote ... and that ... polling stations were closed so that all the people would not have time to vote ... you saw what queues were standing

Firstly. The election headquarters of Tikhanovskaya itself asked its voters to come to the polls at the polling stations just on the eve of their closure and everyone wasted time with the signatures of their electoral bills, to play for time to allow other voters to go to the polling stations. What for? They spoke in order to independently participate in the observation of the counting of votes. This is a real violation of the law.
А in fact - in order to recognize Lukashenka’s elections with violations and therefore illegitimate.
This so-called new western "electoral technologies" for oppositionists in other countries.
Second. Why did Tikhanovskaya's headquarters and those behind her need it? Yes because her electorate of Tikhanovskaya is precisely ANTI-RUSSIAN and it is significantly small in number throughout the country [b] in comparison with the number of pro-Russian voters in R, Belarus. And the headquarters of Tikhonovskaya KNEW about it!
And everything else - Tikhanovskaya's ultra-radical declaration of herself as President of Belarus - is a well-played provocative performance by Tikhanovskaya's PR people and those foreign special services who are behind all this. I think, not without a "mole" in Lukashenka's inner circle.

[Tatyana]

Quote: ancient

You write everything correctly ... but for some reason you forget that the "administrative resource" of the dad .. well, very much .. "overdid it" or he thought that if our "Bucket" can gain 146%, then why should he immediately get 40% ... and then ... and more

On the contrary, against this background, I am amazed by the generally stubborn arrogance of Tikhanovskaya herself! What does she think of herself ?!
As soon as Tikhanovskaya came to Lithuania, her tearful refusal on video from the struggle for presidential power was replaced by her raising the flag again to seize the "presidential throne"! Where is such agility?

Firstly. Well, let's say that in the areas bordering the West, Tikhanovskaya really got 60-70% of the votes in the elections. But these are not the results of elections across the country! How can she this particular result of hers, i.e. in a limited number of specific - border - regions, to extend to the whole country? No way!
10% of the votes she won in the elections - this is really her "average temperature in the hospital" in the elections throughout the country and nothing more! What right does she have to disturb the whole country - walk over corpses - and not just disputing the results of the elections, but voluntarily - radically extremist - declaring herself the president of Belarus ?! Who gave her such a right?
And secondly. Where did she get such a huge amount of money for the election campaign, in which she was clearly advised by expensive professional PR managers? For what preferences and for whom and from which countries did PR people and financiers work and are working for it? After all, she herself is absolutely nothing!
And Lukashenka correctly said that the opposition control centers are located in Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Czech Republic and other countries.
SVETLANA TIKHANOVSKAYA. WHAT CANDIDATE? • May 31, 2020 GOMEL
The physiognomist analyzed the video of Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, the presidential candidate in Belarus.

[viralig]

Tatyana if you are so smart why are you so poor?
You apparently and only you have the exclusive right to the truth? Not even having been here these days.

And yes, Tikhanovskaya is not a politician and she did not position herself from this point of view. And yes, it is not known where and with what speed you ran specifically, when several investigators from the KGB would have a single conversation with you. Well, after all, they are trained only in a humane relationship with people, it is not surprising.

[Tatyana]

Quote: viralig

And yes, Tikhanovskaya is not a politician and she did not position herself from this point of view.

And in your opinion, the post of President R, Belarus is not a political post? Is that, in your opinion, the presidential position is something like the position of the head chef in a restaurant? So what?

Quote: viralig

it is not known where and with what speed you were running, when several investigators from the KGB would have a conversation with you. Well, after all, they are trained only in a humane relationship with people, it is not surprising.

So don't go where you don't need to! Business something? That's all!
Don't look for trouble! Don't be greedy!

[Alex777]

Tatyana! You have written so much about "bad" strikers, about demands, etc.

For the fact that the people were beaten as a result of not at all "peaceful" and unauthorized marches and rallies and armed confrontation with the police in Belarus, let the demonstrators say thank you to Tikhanovskaya, who made all this mess with the GOSPEREVOROT in Belarus! Well, thanks to the existing foreign NGOs in the country.

Are you serious? Is Tikhanovskaya to blame for you?
Here is the answer - who made Lukashenka make Makei (whom the West is now demanding to be replaced) to the post?
Who forced Lukashenka to substitute the GDP and cancel the agreements on the military base?
Who made Lukashenka slow down integration in the union state?
After all, who made Lukashenka invite Pompeo and wait for ambassadors from the States?
He did not make a mistake that can be forgiven and corrected.
Over the past few years, the AHL has pursued a deliberate policy of discrediting Russia and our Union State in the eyes of the Belarusians. And he did it directly in the interests of the West.
Now reaping the benefits its "wise" and "far-sighted" policy.
VVP correctly said in its congratulations on its election - the AHL should make efforts to strengthen the integration processes.
Then the resources will be cheaper, and everything else is simpler. Although yelling in the West in defense of the sovereignty of Belarus will be up to the skies. Even more than after the Crimea.
I am in favor of Russia having the necessary guarantees of the correct behavior of the AHL and those thanks to whom it is in power.
А AHL urgently needs to abolish visa-free travel with the EU and the States. If you don't mind, of course.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Alex777

Are you serious? Is Tikhanovskaya to blame for you?

Do you seriously think that Tikhanovskaya is God's dandelion, "Mother Teresa", whom you follow? This is also your self-deception.
Tikhanovskaya is also a cunning adventurer on her mind.
She has very high material and financial winning stakes in her political game.
Therefore, even on the video, she is not very sad that her husband is in a pre-trial detention center. She will feed her children without him.

At the same time, she perfectly understands that she is lying to the people!
Nevertheless, there are people like Tikhanovskaya, Zelensky and others who have a very flexible conscience.
In principle, Tikhanovskaya cannot fulfill anything of what she has promised - just populism.
And I do not believe that no one pays for the people to go to the demonstrations. I just know how it is organized and why. Who are the stakeholders in this.
The people are selling the future of their children for a penny for a momentary handout!

As for Lukashenka in Belarus, for Russia, alas, as they say, there is no fish and cancer.

[Alex777]

Tikhanovskaya - no one to call her - no way.
The protest electorate gloated for her.
It has no role in the future of Belarus.
To discuss it seriously is not to respect yourself.
Look at Minsk now.
They stopped hitting everyone and the protest slept.

[ivanec]

So one was shot, people are afraid to actively protest.

[Alex777]

So one was shot, people are afraid to actively protest.

I do not understand if you are erroneous or seriously.
Scary in Ukraine. In Odessa. In the Donbass.
And then people come out to protests. In the minority.
At least they are then caught one by one and maimed.
In Belarus, this tragic incident will not frighten anyone.
They will not come close to the police chains. And that's all.
Shooting someone else will lead the situation to a complete escape from the control of the AHL. I don’t think he will go for it unless absolutely necessary. In the course of a fight, anything can happen. But now the pause is taken, the heads are turned on and, I hope, there will be no more victims.
I also hope that Luka did understand that it is necessary to beautifully finish a long journey with a "heavy burden." And he does it with whoever is needed and in what direction.

[Campanella]

So Tsipkalo said that there is an agreement and Tikhanovskaya technical president for six months. He ensures the preparation of new elections and leaves.
You yourself understand that these ghouls will clean the clearing for their own.
In general, undisguised tin.

[Alex777]

So Tsipkalo said that there is an agreement and Tikhanovskaya technical president for six months.

The arrangement is cool.
But the "future leaders" did not agree on it with the current leaders.

[Campanella]

And they did not ask the people ...
Democrats are fucked up.
This is a simple drain of statehood!

[alexmach]

Do you seriously think that Tikhanovskaya is God's dandelion, "Mother Teresa", whom you follow? This is also your self-deception.

What does it matter if she is a dandelion or not, if Lukashenka himself took 50 times more for a coup than this "dandelion"?
I fully support the views of the Ancient One and Alexander above.

And you still blame someone else that he is talking about something emotionally.

[Campanella]

The history of mankind, if you look at it, there is a history of mistakes!
Imagine, if the politicians were not wrong, how could it look? Not only politicians are mistaken, but also peoples.
For example, Ukrainians are trying to shift their mistakes onto the Russians.
Now the Belarusians themselves will adjust and also point at us.

[alexmach]

I already wrote that it is very difficult to predict what will happen next in any development of events. Let me cite Kyrgyzstan as an example. It seems that some kind of coup took place there, but they did not become an anti-Russian puppet even with the new authorities.

And what Lukashenka did is not a mistake but deliberate disgusting. I was very surprised to learn the other day that foreign-funded NGOs are working in Belarus. This is in the police force of Belarus where you can't just go out and pat, the riot police will beat you. Can't slap, but can an NGO? And why? And as I understand it, Lukashenka was actively flirting with the West, and that is why the “last dictator of Europe” suddenly became a handshake. What for? He flirted and blackmailed Russia with these flirts of his.
This is not an isolated error. There are no social explosions from a single mistake, if you do not accumulate "social dynamite" for years

[Campanella]

I did not write to justify Lukashenka.
It's just that errors do not appear from scratch. A person is faced with a choice, he has input data from various sources, he has his own experience, he has advisers, consultants.
It is clear that dictatorship implies the responsibility of one
man, but even a dictator has it all.
As for forecasts, Belarus is not Kyrgyzstan or Armenia.
And here the situation will definitely unfold in favor of the West, i.e. the Ukrainian version with all the ensuing consequences.
I hope Putin will be able to save Belarus from disaster.

[alexmach]

As for forecasts, Belarus is not Kyrgyzstan or Armenia.
And here the situation will definitely unfold in favor of the West, i.e. the Ukrainian version with all the ensuing consequences.

It may or may not be. They, like Kyrgyzstan and Armenia, are very strongly connected economically with Russia. On the other hand, they are, of course, located in Europe and may be of greater interest to neighbors and the Washington Regional Committee.

[cmax]

Tatyana. Probably only a psychiatrist can comment on your delirium. Especially about payment. With such comments you only repel the people of Belarus from Russia. Tsar Lukashenka stayed too long, became star-struck, became insolent, and cheated. Therefore, people took to the streets. He's something special, no, the chairman of the collective farm. There are 12000 agricultural enterprises in Belarus. There are no more chairs. As much as you like. He is not an ally of Russia, as soon as he feels better he will throw you again. For him, the main thing is power, power and power. He wanted to spit on the union state. Me not. For me, a citizen of Minsk, these raids on Russia were always incomprehensible. Which has helped Belarus so many times. When I hung up on the car in front of the 9th of May St. George's ribbon, the police came up to me and asked to take it off. Not allowed, they politely said so. They hadn’t been beaten then. So who are you harnessing for.

[Tatyana]

Whom do you propose for the presidency of Belarus?

[Alex777]

Tatyana. Probably only a psychiatrist can comment on your delirium. Especially about payment.

Tatiana positions herself as a political strategist. This explains a lot.
The comments of one or several people cannot push Russia away from Belarus. I hope.

[alexmach]

Tatiana positions herself as a political strategist

This explains a lot.

[major147]

Quote: Tatiana

did not say a word about organized groups, which during the so-called. "Peaceful" rallies attacked the police and maimed road traffic accidents and other police officers - people in uniform.

Here
https://rusvesna.su/news/1597502417

[Tatyana]

Quote: major147
Here
https://rusvesna.su/news/1597502417

Thank you for this information.
It is a pity that on "VO" this video:
"Clean Maidan - the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Belarus published shocking footage of street riots in Minsk" • 15 Aug. 2020 "- it is impossible to show NAIVE on YouTube!

I already wrote that the ex-deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of the VIII convocation Igor Mosiychuk from the Radical Party of Oleg Lyashko already announced on September 12.09.2020, XNUMX that he has already gathered his militant detachments of Ukrainian Bandera and they are already in Belarus. There they are - these units of Ukrainian fascists - only they are now waiting for a signal from the "Belarusian" "anti-Lukashen" forces to take an active part in the pro-Western coup d'etat in Belarus, as it was in Ukraine in 2014.
In his "peace-loving" methods, Mosiychuk appeared more than.

No Tikhanovskaya will be able to stop these Ukrainian Maydauns in aggression from the side of "peacefully" protesters attacking the guards of public order, even if she wanted to do it!

Mosiychuk shot the portrait of Kadyrov. • Dec 9. 2014

[immobile2008]

The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Belarus cannot be a source, they acted in the best traditions of the fascists!

[immobile2008]

I am ashamed of you! Have you believed the snake wriggling in a frying pan and screaming? No dignity? It is necessary to punish everyone who even says one bad word to Russia, even if it is by accident, and Lukozhenko not only said one word, he poured so muchthat won't get out

[Tatyana]

Quote: imobile2008

I am ashamed of you! Have you believed the snake wriggling in a frying pan and screaming? No dignity? It is necessary to punish everyone who even says one bad word to Russia, even if it is by accident, and Lukozhenko not only said one word, he poured so muchthat won't get out

You forget that the leaders of the state come and go, but the people remain.
Politics is the art of the possible. This means that politics is the art of doing everything possible to use all your opportunities to the fullest.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Tatiana

People learn from mistakes.

You need to learn from the mistakes of others, if at least a little smart. This is how you have to be a cretin, so as not to see the sad experience of even your closest southern neighbors. Or the lust for power, the mind is completely muddied.

[Tatyana]

Quote: orionvitt

You need to learn from the mistakes of others, if at least a little smart. This is how you have to be a cretin, so as not to see the sad experience of even your closest southern neighbors. Or the lust for power, the mind is completely muddied.

At one time, I had to advise a major political party. And then one day the secretary on ideology in a conversation with me sighed sadly and said to me:
- Eh, we would have ANOTHER people! Then we would have won the elections for sure!
To which I had to remark to him:
- And we have NO "OTHER" people in the country! There is only the people that we have. And the party should always work competently with these people, and not rely on the fact that everything will be formed in people's brains by itself.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Tatiana

- And we have no other people in the country!

People for the most part, are the same everywhere. Plus or minus, but the same. That is, in the majority, the inhabitants of the narrow mind, inclined to take everything at their word and subject to all sorts of information pressure. Few can justify the course of their thoughts, or coherently reason their actions. Thinking by pattern and acting by priority. Especially young people. Closer to adulthood, people are more inclined to think rationally, but again, not all. In Ukraine, the whole country was re-flashed the brains and the majority gladly took it. But in this case, the conversation is about one person who has locked up all state administration and who, it seems, should be at least a little different in intelligence. But no. It even turned out that he was dumber than many. They divorced him like a child. I'm also an intriguer.

[viralig]

Tatiana as the character of one film said
- And I am not people.

In fact. The dictator outsmarted himself. If it was not possible to take the throne of all Russi (after Yeltsin, Putin didn’t show up), then he was content with little - Belarus. And all this time he used rosin to everyone's brains. And the fact that he turned the industrial state into a collective farm named after himself. I don’t know what kind of game your media is rubbing against you, but believe the common people do not care deeply to the west, but simply tired of Luka with his Lukanomics, where the main product is street sweeping. Yes, everything looks clean and tidy, but the mess is incredible.
And of course the West will yell. Only if they have seen our opisation on trifles before. Now, seeing that he got the people, that there is nowhere to go to invest and not a little. Violence always generates only violence and in no other way.
Or maybe you think Putin will give him another handout and he will cheerfully hop on to raise the economy? So do not hope for most of it he will steal himself and his entourage, and the rest will go to support the punishers, because these are no longer law enforcement agencies, but precisely punishers for whom the master's order is more important than the law. And yes, they are the instigators of the riots. Due to the fact that the owner gave the go-ahead and even more so insisted on the use of force before the start of the elections, and this was broadcast on BT. And turn to the next elections, there will be a lot of Western supporters, because on the one hand, buns will be handed out with an opposition, and on the other hand, your beloved AG who received support from Russia will crush (and how do you want to feel people's love if you pay money to someone who humiliates and beats you ). The fact that Lukashenka hates the people, he does not hide.
Now the people are protesting not for the west or east, but against a specific dictator. And the longer it is in power, the fewer points of contact between us will be. In the late 90s, more than 90% of Belarusians were in favor of uniting with Russia, but every year the number falls and this is the personal merit of the AG. And you are talking about the union state.
He learns everywhere with his independence. Yes, he personally does not depend on anything because the stolen money allows him. Only Belarus is still dependent on the debt hole into which he has plunged it.


In Mogilev, on the first day of the unrest, Omon dispersed the protesters. But this seemed not enough to them and they moved towards Orzhenikidze Square, beating and grabbing everyone along the way (on the way they beat a group of tourists from Russia - an excursion, and threw the director of the drama theater and director into a paddy wagon). On the fire street and in the park near Chyrvonai, the dawns (cinema) beat up young people who did not participate in any rallies. Well, of course, the parents came out and Omon had already been beaten. The next day, the number of riot police was doubled. As in other cities I will not say because I do not see, but last night the transport with Bobruisk after 16-00 was blocked.
And where are these 80% if all the largest enterprises are on strike? People are simply dumped for their opinion, and the trade unions are inactive because this is another state body, although it should be different. But many flower shops have stands with balloons and flowers that you can borrow for free. Right now they will run up and say that it was bought for the money of the West, and not that the watchmakers driven by eternal extortions thus support a peaceful protest.

[Campanella]

So so so! We then understand that we are tired. The situation is similar in Russia.
But if you give free rein to your emotions and fatigue, Belarusians risk falling into a funnel from which they will not get out at all.
Why is a dictator bad, he is responsible for everything and all his schools.
And what is so good about the western one, it announces that everyone is free!
And the fact that you did not take place, that you are a loser or that you feel bad is your problem. You were guaranteed freedom, and then live in a box as you want, if you want to become a millionaire, if you become. And, accordingly, there are minimum claims to the system, it is not paternalistic

[viralig]

Campanella is bad for everyone. For example, you owe everything to the state, but it is not responsible for anything. The official has stolen and ruined the enterprise, then his promotion, and ordinary workers are guilty. You should shut up and not have your own opinion, and for good reasons also give your state-woo income, and preferably all. And pensioners - to die so that they don't ask for a pension. I understand that it is exaggerated and hypertrafied, but alas, the truth.

[Campanella]

I didn't understand the meaning of your speech!
What did I do!

[Quadro]

And where are these 80% if all the largest enterprises are on strike?

Well, again, the same organ. Just stop writing misinformation, only a small handful of people are on strike. They gave the strike of several hundred BelAZ workers as a strike of the entire enterprise, although 10 thousand people work there.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Tatiana

Lukashenko "remembered" about the Union State and announced the need to contact Putin

This is a reasonable and competent decision on the part of Lukashenka.

How many times has he "remembered" the union state when his ass was hot. And nothing has changed.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Piramidon

How many times has he "remembered" the union state when his ass was hot. And nothing has changed

His only chance is to formalize it in full, and not in the spirit of an agreement of intent. There is no other way out for RB.

[ancient]

Quote: Tatiana

This is a reasonable and competent decision on the part of Lukashenka.

This is from pure ... "hopelessness" ... because Lukashenka has .. "wherever you throw ... a wedge is everywhere"
I even stopped “playing” at “tsar” with low social responsibility ”... where did all the arrogance and ambition go?
And then ... yes I ... yes now all the prosecutors will come running to me on the whistle, etc. etc.

[lelik613]

It's time for Bolivar to send both to a known address ...

[Eragon]

Quote: Thrifty

And what should we do with him now? Shit on everyone and everything, but now Russia help out? Not to see the wheelchair of the throne, it is already almost blazing under the guz-n of the bow, and "Bolivar will not stand two" ...

And "help out" is how? If we send a couple of helicopters to escape, then we have nothing against it. And if the "green men" are sent, then the question arises: whom and from whom will they protect, whom and in what help?

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Eragon

And "help out" is how? If we send a couple of helicopters to escape, then we have nothing against it.

Sending a couple of helicopters is probably not a problem. And who instead of him? Svetlana Tikhanovskaya?
Gift to the Soros.

[gost2012]

Quote: Vladimir_6

Quote: Eragon

And "help out" is how? If we send a couple of helicopters to escape, then we have nothing against it.

Sending a couple of helicopters is probably not a problem. And who instead of him? Svetlana Tikhanovskaya?
Gift to the Soros.

and if not a gift, then what? Send Russian special forces to shoot people? Or do we have little of our own?

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Gost2012

and if not a gift, then what? send Russian special forces to shoot people? ..

No Brother, get your sight on your own.

[Eragon]

Quote: Vladimir_6

Sending a couple of helicopters is probably not a problem. And who instead of him? Svetlana Tikhanovskaya?
Gift to the Soros.

Dear Russians! Before asking stupid questions, at least find out who with what went to the polls. Tikhanovskaya has repeatedly stated during the campaign that she has two goals: the release of political prisoners in general and her husband in particular, repeated elections. And that's all. Before the elections, power is transferred to parliament. Yes, no one has ever perceived her as a future president. Without expecting it, she became a battering ram against Lukashenka. Where are the Decembrists. Tikhanovskaya spoke out for her husband against the local potentate. And it seems to have knocked him down. And she didn't run to Lithuania. She was deported under the escort of the state security officers in the car of the Lithuanian embassy.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Eragon

Tikhanovskaya has repeatedly stated during the campaign that she has two goals: the release of political prisoners in general and her husband in particular, repeated elections.

These are not the goals of a presidential candidate. These are populist statements from an offended wife.

Yes, no one has ever perceived her as a future president.

So I am about the same.

Tikhanovskaya spoke out for her husband against the local potentate. And it seems to have knocked him down.

That is unlikely.

Dear Russians! Before asking stupid questions, at least find out who with what went to the polls.

Dear Dmitry! When the tyrant Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine, some clever people also considered themselves smarter than others. They rode for joy with pans on their heads. But in fact they were fools.
Therefore, before giving silly advice, think about who needs it?

[Eragon]

Dear Vladimir! The comparison with Ukraine has already gotten very much. Can't you see the differences? In Ukraine, protests were in the same city on the same square, and therefore the "Maidan". In Belarus, protests are sludge everywhere, down to towns with a population of only 10 thousand people. The current president was overthrown in Ukraine. In Belarus, there was one requirement - an honest recount. The slogan "Go away" appeared only after it became known about the atrocities of the riot police. No one jumps with pots, no one throws Molotov cocktails (don't believe the media, watch the videos yourself on YouTube, see for yourself), the moskolyak is not required for gilyaks, no one rushes to Europe, and Bandera simply does not exist and it was there. What does Ukraine have to do with it?

[Vladimir_6]

The comparison with Ukraine has already gotten very much. Can't you see the differences? In Ukraine, protests were in the same city on the same square, and therefore the "Maidan".

Of course you can see. As soon as Yanukovych signed an agreement with opposition representatives
(in the presence of Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, Germany Frank-Walter Steinmeier, French Foreign Minister Eric Fournier and Vladimir Lukin), so he was immediately given a Maidan. He barely took his feet.
The difference is that Lukashenka realized that the same fate awaited him. Therefore, there will not be any negotiations with the protesters, cookies will not be delivered either. The curators and cashiers were detained, so by September 1, I believe the situation will calm down.

The slogan "Go away" appeared only after it became known about the atrocities of the riot police.

Is it over these "children"?

What does Ukraine have to do with it?

Given that the director and sponsor of the riots are one and the same.

[Quadro]

Quote: Eragon

Quote: Vladimir_6

Sending a couple of helicopters is probably not a problem. And who instead of him? Svetlana Tikhanovskaya?
Gift to the Soros.

Dear Russians! Before asking stupid questions, at least find out who with what went to the polls. Tikhanovskaya has repeatedly stated during the campaign that she has two goals: the release of political prisoners in general and her husband in particular, repeated elections. And that's all. Before the elections, power is transferred to parliament. Yes, no one has ever perceived her as a future president. Without expecting it, she became a battering ram against Lukashenka. Where are the Decembrists. Tikhanovskaya spoke out for her husband against the local potentate. And it seems to have knocked him down. And she didn't run to Lithuania. She was deported under the escort of the state security officers in the car of the Lithuanian embassy.

Who are you making fairy tales to? Hang a lot of noodles on your ears. Repeated elections? Don't you find it funny? They will clean up all the unwanted and push through whoever is needed and that's it. Maybe you still believe in lace panties? Didn't you run to Lithuania? And you that her husband and was next to her? So far, you are pushing us some naive crap, which they rubbed into us at, k, p, o, n, s.

[My doctor]

Quote: Eragon

And "help out" is how? If we send a couple of helicopters to escape, then we have nothing against it. And if the "green men" are sent, then the question arises: whom and from whom will they protect, whom and in what help?

I'm from Belarus. Take my words as a joke.
Before the elections, Lukashenka saw a threat not from the West, but from the East, and perhaps his suspicions were justified.
Even under pressure from the public, large European structures are trying to transfer the blame from Minsk to Moscow for the lawlessness in the republic. The reaction time is also being delayed, giving Minsk an opportunity to settle the internal conflict. All channels in the West repeat that they have no leverage over the protesters and do not know candidates for any negotiations on behalf of the protesters. At the beginning of the protests, the KGB of the republic immediately took Tikhonovskaya to Lithuania so that there would be opportunities and resources to seize control of the protest. Did not work out. We'll have to negotiate with the winner.

[Alex777]

Since you are from Belarus, let me ask you an immodest question:
Did Lukashenka manage to finish off the Union Treaty or does the majority of Belarusians treat it normally? Appreciate?

[JD1979]

Quote: Alex777

Since you are from Belarus, let me ask you an immodest question:
Did Lukashenka manage to finish off the Union Treaty or does the majority of Belarusians treat it normally? Appreciate?

Did you succeed, can't you see?)) Or just lost the habit of thinking? It's easier to ask a stupid question. Finished off, already and nails are hammered into the lid. And the majority of Belarusians are against AHL, look what is happening now. True, now all those who wanted to be a part of Russia, including me, thought very hard. And why (I wanted to write another word, but I can't) do we need Russia? Everyone hoped that Putin would at least listen to the opinion of the brotherly people, and if he didn’t stand up, then at least he would take a break to analyze the situation. But no, he congratulated our collective farmer on the victory, thereby spitting in our face. And now, whatever your politicians say - covered in excrement up to your ears, you won't smell like roses. Russia is, if not an enemy, then very close. As they say from love to ... And your sun-faced, pushed many of us to take this step. You just missed *, in other matters, as usual, the struggle in the information field. And they could be the winners ... And I'm afraid your troops now standing in the Smolensk region, in case of helping the mustachioed, will not be greeted with flowers, as they wanted, and as it could be, do not rush someone with congratulations. And it would not be the president who would meet you, but the Belarusian people, but most likely get ready for a warm welcome, the partisan memory is still good. Give warm greetings to the Kremlin that you pushed Belarus towards the west with your own hands ...
https://smart.tut.by/
Go to the oldest news portal. Read it. Maybe a little bit my eyes will open.

[Alex777]

Did you succeed, can't you see?)) Or just lost the habit of thinking?

Rudeness to a stranger does not paint you.
As I already wrote here: if you don’t want to be together, it’s like a tablecloth.
A West awaits you in which "white lives do not matter."
I have lived in the States for almost 10 years. I know what I'm talking about.
Do you like tolerance towards LGBT people - go ahead.
Who knows, you might even like it there ...
It was just that VVP, not respected by me, made a push towards the West, but the AHL, which you chose 6 years ago. You didn't know what he was then? It was obvious to me. You can read my posts.
So do not blame from a sore head for a healthy one.
The choice that will now be made will determine not only your fate, but also the fate of your children and grandchildren. And you allow yourself, instead of a reasonable discussion, to roll on the floor in hysterics. Ah, Putin didn't come! Oh, the Kremlin didn't save ...
Everything is ahead. Just be calm.
People in Donbass are a million times worse.

[gost2012]

Quote: JD1979

Quote: Alex777

Since you are from Belarus, let me ask you an immodest question:
Did Lukashenka manage to finish off the Union Treaty or does the majority of Belarusians treat it normally? Appreciate?

Did you succeed, can't you see?)) Or just lost the habit of thinking? It's easier to ask a stupid question. Finished off, already and nails are hammered into the lid. And the majority of Belarusians are against AHL, look what is happening now. True, now all those who wanted to be a part of Russia, including me, thought very hard. And why (I wanted to write another word, but I can't) do we need Russia? Everyone hoped that Putin would at least listen to the opinion of the brotherly people, and if he didn’t stand up, then at least he would take a break to analyze the situation. But no, he congratulated our collective farmer on the victory, thereby spitting in our face. And now, whatever your politicians say - covered in excrement up to your ears, you won't smell like roses. Russia is, if not an enemy, then very close. As they say from love to ... And your sun-faced, pushed many of us to take this step. You just missed *, in other matters, as usual, the struggle in the information field. And they could be the winners ... And I'm afraid your troops now standing in the Smolensk region, in case of helping the mustachioed, will not be greeted with flowers, as they wanted, and as it could be, do not rush someone with congratulations. And it would not be the president who would meet you, but the Belarusian people, but most likely get ready for a warm welcome, the partisan memory is still good. Give warm greetings to the Kremlin that you pushed Belarus towards the west with your own hands ...
https://smart.tut.by/
Go to the oldest news portal. Read it. Maybe a little bit my eyes will open.

all right, I confirm.

[ccsr]

Quote: JD1979

And why (I wanted to write another word, but I can't) do we need Russia?

Have you always dreamed of getting only material benefits from your brothers, or is it more important to preserve family ties? In Russia, for some reason, no one really thinks about what we can get from Belarus, especially since we have much more from the West, but we always remember that brothers live there. And mercantile considerations, unlike you, did not move us in the creation of a single union state - we want spiritual unity, and you impose on us "sausage" thinking. That is why, having burned ourselves with Ukraine, we are looking at you with great caution - it is not a fact that your nationalists will not get to power, and even then there will be completely different relations.

Quote: JD1979

Give warm greetings to the Kremlin that you pushed Belarus towards the west with your own hands ...

Stop bending up - you always wanted to sit on two chairs, and you want to blame your mistakes on Russia, and this is obvious.

[Ether]

Your pusher in the direction of Warsaw and Brussels has been working for a long time, so say hello to them, and do not blame a sick head on a healthy one.

[Eragon]

Quote: Alex777

Since you are from Belarus, let me ask you an immodest question:
Did Lukashenka manage to finish off the Union Treaty or does the majority of Belarusians treat it normally? Appreciate?

I will also answer. For yourself and your friends. The overwhelming majority treat the agreement normally. Moreover, many people here accuse Lukashenka of breaking the Union Treaty. But please do not be confused, the Union is entirely in favor, part of Russia is categorically not.

[Alex777]

The overwhelming majority of the treaty is normal. Moreover, many people here accuse Lukashenka of breaking the Union Treaty.

This can not but rejoice.

But please do not be confused, the Union is entirely in favor, part of Russia is categorically not.

Never thought about the terms in this case. Tell me what is the difference? In the right to secede from the Union?
Or what the AHL is up against - in 2 emission centers?
Or am I missing something else?
What advantages do you see in the Union that you so categorically reject "part of Russia"?
The title of the Russian Emperor contained a mention of "White Russia", but as far as I remember, there was no such republic ...

[Eragon]

Quote: Alex777

The overwhelming majority of the treaty is normal. Moreover, many people here accuse Lukashenka of breaking the Union Treaty.

This can not but rejoice.

But please do not be confused, the Union is entirely in favor, part of Russia is categorically not.

Never thought about the terms in this case. Tell me what is the difference? In the right to secede from the Union?
Or what the AHL is up against - in 2 emission centers?
Or am I missing something else?
What advantages do you see in the Union that you so categorically reject "part of Russia"?
The title of the Russian Emperor contained a mention of "White Russia", but as far as I remember, there was no such republic ...

Union - two sovereign countries with the closest possible relations and the minimum number of different barriers. Joining Russia is a loss of sovereignty. We don't like everything that Russia is doing.
The emission center was his main desire. I will draw as much as I want. Rumor has it that Lukashenka needed a Union Treaty to sit in the chair instead of Yeltsin. But Putin came and the plan failed. As far as delusional rumors judge for yourself, I don't take them seriously here, but you never know ...
Personally, I don't see any advantages from joining Russia. And you can have a lot of problems, some sanctions are worth something.
When Russia regains the power of an empire, it will take everything it needs without asking anyone. Then, perhaps, there will be White Russia again. But that will be a completely different story.

[Alex777]

Union - two sovereign countries with the closest possible relations and the minimum number of different barriers. Joining Russia is a loss of sovereignty.

Union is a path in a certain direction. Towards a single Parliament and leadership.
Maintaining sovereignty is giving up the Union.
AHL wanted the same economic conditions and advantages that our regions have. But without joining Russia. "To serve him with a Goldfish and be on his parcels ...".
Solovyov this his approach and formulated: "..you give us everything, and for this we will love you."
I will express myself more strongly. We call such smart ones as AHL freeloaders. When the "sweet" share is shared with us, and the "bitter" share (where can we go without it) is left to us. Why do we need such a "brotherhood"?
There is no such "brotherhood" anywhere in the world.
A long time ago, when there was a confrontation between different systems of the USA and the USSR, the same Greece, for example, received "cookies" from one or the other country.
The time when it was possible to "suck two queens" is over and will never return. It is very important for everyone to understand this.
The AHL's problems stemmed from the fact that he did not understand this. And he demanded "the continuation of the banquet."
Blackmailed by going to the West. Visa-free introduced. So I ran into it.
But there are no brothers in the West. All with blood and sweat work out their pretty penny.
China does not give money to anyone either. Invests them in projects carried out by Chinese firms with Chinese employees.
Or "... both in grief and in joy ..", or each one by himself. IMHO.
I've written a lot on these topics here. If interested - read my posts.

Rumor has it that Lukashenka needed a Union Treaty to sit in the chair instead of Yeltsin. But Putin came and the plan failed.

This is not a rumor, but it was.

Personally, I don't see any advantages from joining Russia. And you can have a lot of problems, some sanctions are worth something.

I wrote about the advantages above.
The preservation of the Union in its current form, without further deepening of integration, for which it was started, is unlikely. I also indicated the reasons.
Sanctions, specifically to me, do not interfere in any way now.
As well as specifically, you will not notice them in any way, if that.

When Russia regains the power of an empire, it will take everything it needs without asking anyone.

When Russia gains power, it would be very useful for you to be her real brother.

[Quadro]

Personally, I don't see any advantages from joining Russia. And you can have a lot of problems, some sanctions are worth something.

When we will cover the market for you and will not invest billions in you, then you will have problems and considerable ones.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Thrifty

And what should we do with him now?

Nothing can be done with him ...
If he wants to save the country, albeit urgently, while he has the authority, he draws up a full-fledged union agreement. With the introduction of a single monetary unit, the Central Bank of Russia has the right to exercise control over the banks of the Republic of Belarus. And with the introduction of a unified tax system of the two union states. Following the example of the UK-Scotland relationship.
This is the only way out in this situation.
And let him remain the zits-chairman until the elections.

[gyroscope]

He no longer has legitimate powers. And if he tries to implement this, then Russia will again be accused of annexation ...

[Alex777]

He no longer has legitimate powers.

For this, there are those who will figure out how to arrange everything correctly.
And the way that a colleague stalkerwalker suggested the best of the worst.
And only if the Belarusians themselves want it.
We don't need to pull anyone by force.

And if he tries to implement this, then Russia will again be accused of annexation ...

Yes, here all sorts of clever people like Deripaska promised us "hellish sanctions" in April. Trump says he will lose, and Biden will win and start ...
To be afraid of wolves - there is no forest.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Gyroscope

He no longer has legitimate powers.

AHL is still the president of Belarus.

Quote: Gyroscope

And if he tries to implement this, then Russia will again be accused of annexation ...

Prolongation of the union treaty with the ratification of the amendments made does not contradict any international law. On which many "democratic countries" have long been scored.
And the sanctions ... They were, are and will be.
This is war. In her new guise.

[Quadro]

Quote: Gyroscope

He no longer has legitimate powers. And if he tries to implement this, then Russia will again be accused of annexation ...

We will always be accused of annexation in any case. How can you be so naive?

[mikhailovich22]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Help with specialists

Will you come and once again put a truncheon on a 16-year-old kid, assistant?
?
Lukashenka has been disliked since 2015, but tolerated, now they hate.
Putin runs the risk of getting his hands dirty about it ... so much so that later he won't wash himself off and disown himself.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: mikhailovich22

You will come and once again you will stick a truncheon on a 16-year-old kid, assistant

Read the post to the end. Specialists - in slang - are INTELLIGENCE, not OMON fighters.

[Senka naughty]

Will you come and once again put a truncheon on a 16-year-old kid, assistant?

Don't put these "Hollywood" videos from your YouTube in here, no one believes in them, only sick.

[RUnnm]

And here the "Onizhedeti" went, walked, collected flowers along the road, and then the riot police .... and the fittings and cobblestones, so it was by chance, they threw everything ...

[JD1979]

Quote: RUnnm

And here the "Onizhedeti" went, walked, collected flowers along the road, and then the riot police .... and the fittings and cobblestones, so it was by chance, they threw everything ...

Man-bot .. if the situation with the roads in Russia is being corrected, then another problem is only progressing ... in an age when almost all especially relevant information is thrown off on the Internet ... I cannot find the strength to believe ... Diagnosis .... And tell me which charter says that cops can be applied to children, and not only, what in any criminal code, any country, goes like torture? Do you want to experience it yourself? Well, take Huber to your place, just don't cry later when the riot police shove you a truncheon into one place.

[RUnnm]

Everything is clear with you .... it's hard to look at the example of a neighboring country, in which the stage of "onizhedeti" was replaced by a stage when these thugs, who have not received legal rebuff for six years already, have been knocked down in flocks, trained, armed and teach everyone else how it is right to love the Motherland, how to say correctly what story should be, which heroes are good and which are bad. ALL are equal before the law!

[Tank hard]

Quote: JD1979

... And tell me which charter says that cops can be applied to children, and not only, what in any criminal code, any country, is like torture? Do you want to experience it yourself? Well, take Huber to your place, just don't cry later when the riot police shove you a truncheon in one place

And there is nothing to wander around the rallies and will not shove you anything. All around these bearded "children".

[Quadro]

Quote: mikhailovich22

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Help with specialists

Will you come and once again put a truncheon on a 16-year-old kid, assistant?
?
Lukashenka has been disliked since 2015, but tolerated, now they hate.
Putin runs the risk of getting his hands dirty about it ... so much so that later he won't wash himself off and disown himself.

This is this hairy and bearded stuffed 16 year old kid?

[The Little Humpbacked Horse]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

How can I help him now, you fool?

Yes, the same as usual, again begging for money

[Zdishek]

So it's not in vain that the IL-76 runs to Nosib and back

[Grandfather]

Quote: RUnnm

Lukashenko "remembered" about the Union State and announced the need to contact Putin

from the west, Luka is not delighted, but I don’t want to deal closely with oligarchic Russia, he is not blind, he sees what is going on with us, integration, consider the "Chubais's" path ... does he need it? and the West specifically grabbed onto Belarus, wishing to make a semblance of "tribaltic", destroying industry and the countryside. this must be understood before yelling at Luka. and the "zapadentsy" worked wonderfully well, with propaganda and money. And now, for false values, seemingly normal people take to the streets. Irremovability of power is evil, but those who want to take control of Belarus are evil. This is the dilemma.

[mdsr]

You are smart, old man, and you must understand that not only this dictator is to blame for the current situation, but also the Russian authorities, who did nothing to replace this senile person with a younger, modern leader in time. The current situation was not only easy to calculate, but also natural.

[Grandfather]

Quote: mdsr

You are smart, old man, and you must understand that not only this dictator is to blame for the current situation, but also the Russian authorities, who did nothing to replace this senile person with a younger, modern leader in time. The current situation was not only easy to calculate, but also natural.

I’m more experienced, I’ve lived through it, and I see something,
our authorities ... well, how to say ... not the people, to put it mildly, they have no time for their neighbors, they would have time to destroy their own, and topple ... that's why Ukraine fell, and now Belarus is at stake, the situation is yes, it's easy read, and I already mentioned this several times in my comments, the main problem is that our boiler is already raising the pressure ... Khabara out ... the situation is not very different from Minsk, and this is the beginning. yes ... I understand a lot, and a lot comes true.

[Alex777]

Did you have to lead a lot in life?
Make responsible decisions?
Accept the consequences of these decisions?

I’m more experienced, I’ve lived through it, and I see something,

The most important thing in the experiment is the height of the hillock with which what is seen from this hillock is estimated.

[Tank hard]

Quote: mdsr

that in this situation is guilty

Quote: mdsr

and the authorities of Russia,

Yeah, "and also cyclists."
Erich Maria Remarque.

[snucerist]

Yeah...
False values ​​are not good.
But where is the criterion for lying? How to distinguish it from the truth in a totalitarian state, where all the media are crushed by one person and give out only the information he pleases?
If I and the overwhelming majority of my work collective and my acquaintances voted "against" (I know this for sure, because I communicate with them), if I personally observed kilometer-long queues in support of opposition candidates for many days (who have not yet been imprisoned), and After the "counting" of votes, they slip me a fake piece of paper with the figure 83% in favor - is that good?
Is this not a false value? Is this true value?
Falsification, falsification of results, terror against opponents - these are the values ​​that any Belarusian should perceive silently, with gratitude and respect?

[Grandfather]

How to distinguish it from the truth in a totalitarian state, where all the media are crushed by one person and give out only the information he pleases

? "Channel One" and "Channel Russia" also give out pro-government information, about the same Khabarovsk and other cities - silence. The previous elections are similar to Belarusian ones. so, there is no difference between us and you in this, but, you have enterprises-GOS, we have-HOUR. you have more in the treasury, we have ...

[DMB84]

Well ... the fact that Luka was too clever with the vote is understandable to the child (but not to Luka's entourage). But what about "where all the media are crushed by dressing a face" ..... You name at least one state, where the media are such honest knights in white ...... All the media are crushed by someone. And, as a rule, not the most pleasant personalities. Specifically, those who have money. Much money. As a result, either the media are used as "one person", or it is a get-together, a fight between the "masters of life" for resources. These cannibals (owners of the media) do not care about you and the work collectives. You will be sent to the slaughter as a consumable, the opposite side will send their own to the slaughter ... And all for ideals. Some .... The bottom line ..... both sides will throw the waste material into the trash, someone will squeeze out a couple of factories from someone, maybe some other assets. And you, if you stay alive, will be left with moral satisfaction for other people's success in enrichment. It will be very lucky if you continue to work, if you are out of luck, you will become unemployed. In the long run, your situation will worsen rather than improve. IMHO.

[Spartanec]

Dear, in which state does the state media (forgive me for the tftology) issue other information? Outside the beacons of democracy, private media give out exactly the same thing as yours and our state ones))) that is, they simply powder their brains with their citizens. Independent media is nonsense) any media give out the information for which they are paid. The media have long been a brainwashing tool

[Fan-fan]

In the US, the media write bad things about Trump, while in Russia the media write bad things about Putin?

[Quadro]

Quote: Fan-Fan

In the US, the media write bad things about Trump, while in Russia the media write bad things about Putin?

Do you know who owns TV channels and other media there? What are you mowing like a fool here?

[Alex777]

But where is the criterion for lying? How to distinguish it from the truth in a totalitarian state, where all the media are crushed by one person and give out only the information he pleases?

In the "democratic" States, all media have been suppressed by 6 groups since the days of Bill Clinton. There are no independent media outlets there.
In Italy, Berlusconi removed the media belonging to Murdoch from power.
In France, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, falsely accused, lost his chance to come to power.
The question is one: you are an object or a subject in politics.
RB cannot be independent in today's world.
The states conduct a transparent policy - whoever is not with us is against us.
And the fraternal people must decide: where to go?
I see only 2 alternatives: either the Union State, or the realities of Ukraine.
It’s not about me and not that I have a bad attitude towards the Republic of Bashkortostan, or at least somewhat happy with what is happening in Ukraine.
This is the choice that those who can give it to you.
Russian civilization, as a rule, developed the territories it came to.
At least remember Afghanistan. Factories, hospitals, schools.
The Anglo-Saxons ensure the prosperity of their countries by plundering others.
What has the United States built in Afghanistan over the past 18 years?
The way they behave in Afghanistan is the same in Ukraine and everywhere.
If you do not understand this, you cannot consciously make a choice.
And the choice is definitely yours.
And the last thing. Earlier, the West lured with the possibility of moving to its flourishing territory. I myself returned to Russia from the States in 2003. And my acquaintances have been returning en masse in the last 2 years. And we are very happy about that.
What would the local opponents of "bloody GDP" think and say.

[VVK_VDB]

Where can "kilometer" queues come from if the work of the polling station is already designed for a certain number of voters? Did you all decide to come by seven in the evening? Further, I do not believe in the results, they say. all the acquaintances voted against. Maybe, but you have to prove it. At the end of the vote count, all observers are issued certified, that is, official, copies of the minutes. Show copies of the protocols, at least for some of the polling stations, from which it would be clear that Lukashenka lost. On what basis should we require recounts or re-voting? Can't the opposition present any such protocol? Next, who worked in the precinct election commissions? Your neighbors, colleagues, your wives and sisters, a hundred thousand, are all falsifiers? So deal with your wives ... first.

[Senka naughty]

How to distinguish it from the truth in a totalitarian state, where all the media are crushed by one person and give out only the information he pleases?

Where have you seen a state controlled by one "person". You are delusional.

If I and the overwhelming majority of my work collective and my acquaintances voted "against" (I know this for sure, because I communicate with them), if I personally observed kilometer-long queues in support of opposition candidates for many days (who have not yet been imprisoned), and After the "counting" of votes, they slip me a fake piece of paper with the figure 83% in favor - is that good?
Is this not a false value? Is this true value?
Falsification, falsification of results, terror against opponents - these are the values ​​that any Belarusian should perceive silently, with gratitude and respect?

Great speech! Go already, pour democratic kerosene into bottles, tomorrow they will be filmed again, otherwise they won't pay.

[mikhailovich22]

Quote: Dead Day

take control of Belarus

We are in full swing here: gold, diamonds, oil, gas. There is no end to those who want to get their hands on us

Quote: Dead Day

And now, for false values, seemingly normal people take to the streets.

People took to the streets because the government rigged the elections.

[Tank hard]

Quote: mikhailovich22

We are in full swing here: gold, diamonds, oil, gas. There is no end to those who want to get their hands on us

There are things that are no less valuable, for example, geopolitical interests, and then we always need a territory for burying nuclear waste, for example, there are many interesting things.

[mikhailovich22]

Quote: Tank Hard

There are things that are no less valuable, for example, geopolitical interests, and then we always need a territory for burying nuclear waste, for example, there are many interesting things.

Where will we store? Near Pskov, Smolensk or Bryansk?

[Tank hard]

Quote: mikhailovich22

Where will we store? Near Pskov, Smolensk or Bryansk?

Somewhat unreasonable comment, and the video is not available, and minus your funny ... Well, "Mikhail" has no arguments And what about adding up where, let's see who will win in Belarus and with whom they will be "associated", otherwise the Balts are already demanding to close the nuclear power plant. And in fact I don't care, if only not at my expense.

[mikhailovich22]

Quote: Tank Hard

and minus your funny.

I have a negative rating, I am not allowed to put minuses and pluses.

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Tank Hard

There are things equally valuable, such as geopolitical interests

For the sake of their geopolitical interests, can the Belarusian people be "cleaned out"? Arrange a "crystal night" and make the survivors slaves? Are you out of your mind? Can you grow short antennae then?
By supporting the agroführer, you become invaders, Vlasov tricolors.
You are making the mistake of betting on a lame horse.

[Tank hard]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

Supporting the agrofuehrer,

Yes, I personally sneeze at you and Luka. Themselves there gnaw each other. But when the "independent revolutionaries" win, let them buy hydrocarbons for real money and try to sell their products to the EU. Let everything be honest, not for "fraternal" discounts.

Quote: pro100y.belarus

For the sake of their geopolitical interests, can the Belarusian people be "cleaned out"?

And this is to your friend Pompeo, comrades, they love to do such tricks, examples from Africa, Latin America and the Middle East, to Yugoslavia and Ukraine.

Quote: pro100y.belarus

and make the survivors slaves?

And this is generally for the Polish brothers, back in the 30s of the last century it was. But you, apparently, have your own story.

[Quadro]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

Quote: Tank Hard

There are things equally valuable, such as geopolitical interests

For the sake of their geopolitical interests, can the Belarusian people be "cleaned out"? Arrange a "crystal night" and make the survivors slaves? Are you out of your mind? Can you grow short antennae then?
By supporting the agroführer, you become invaders, Vlasov tricolors.
You are making the mistake of betting on a lame horse.

Do not open your mouth about the tricolor Vlasovites. At least find out when and how this tricolor appeared. But you say under the red and white flag of the Nazi henchmen.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Nothing brightens the head like a roasted cock that pounds in a burning ass!

[Artyom Volgin]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Nothing brightens the head like a roasted cock that pounds in a burning ass! laughing laughing laughing

How long did Lukashenka's enlightenment last? Maybe this is temporary? Maybe he will put things in order in the country and start wagging again?

[Vladimir Mashkov]

And who knows! In an amicable way, he did not understand and, I suppose, will never understand. You probably need to take it in a bad way. Reliable. For the gills. And hold your head so that you don't twist, don't dodge!

[iouris]

This is not flirting, this is a game. At the pianist, please do not shoot: he plays as best he can. He is not the only player in Belarus. Who is there in the government, why are they not visible?

[TriA]

Quote: iouris

He is not the only player in Belarus

He is the president, which means that he is the main political player.

[iouris]

The scheme is more complex. Even the story of the presidency of a certain Donald Our Trump taught you nothing.

[ccsr]

Quote: TriA

He is the president, which means that he is the main political player.

Still in charge.
Actually, it was high time for our leadership to think about whether we put on the right horse, and whether it will not be the same as with Yanukovych. Probably it was necessary to look for those among the Belarusian elite who sincerely want to unite with us, and not forgive this collective farm chairman for his antics against Russia. We are now paying the price for this short-sightedness, and again we believe that Lukashenka will become a pro-Russian leader, and he only uses us for his own purposes, and will again pursue the old cunning policy. As the saying goes "you can't wash a black cable white ..."

[Artyom Volgin]

Quote: ccsr

it was high time for our leadership to think

It was necessary to. But now the main thing is to restore order in the Republic and find a worthy replacement for Lukashenka. Otherwise, the situation may result in a new Ukraine.

[halpat]

It is necessary to rename Belarus to LukAmorye and start counting down the dates again. Simultaneously, shrimp with salmon, as well as other seafood will automatically be legalized.
joke

Did Bulba speak with a human tongue? I do not believe.
But Russia needs to win this battle with the West and then send the agrofuehrer to retire, even with honor, allocating him and Kolya farms in the Oryol region somewhere, and better in Altai ... away from the western borders of a single union state.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Halpat

Did Bulba speak with a human tongue? I do not believe.

He has it out of fright ...

having allocated him and Kolya a small farm in the Oryol region somewhere, and better in Altai ... far from the western borders of a single union state.

Better in Oymyakon or Naryanmar. To the extreme in Yakutsk ...

[Artyom Volgin]

Will the locals need it there?

[Rokambol]

Quote: Artem Volgin

Will the locals need it there?

There was nothing to sit on two chairs. And ours and yours. Here is the result.

[Grandfather]

It is necessary to rename Belarus to LukAmorye and start counting down the dates again. Simultaneously, shrimp with salmon, as well as other seafood will automatically be legalized.
laughing joke

"ban" you for such "jokes" .. yeah ...

[BecmepH]

Quote: RUnnm

Well, after all, an experienced politician, could he really think that flirting with the West can lead to at least something good?

This is human psychology. We always think that this will not happen to us. Anything bad can happen to someone, but not to me. After all, I'm smarter than others. But no!

[demo]

I get the impression, judging by the comments, that Luca is the only one who doesn't understand anything!

Luke's position, from his point of view, is extremely advantageous.
On the one hand, the CSTO and the Union State. Plus, Russia supported him well economically.
For a long time, by the way.
On the other hand, he is the president of an independent state through which transport and energy flows from Russia to the EU, and vice versa, go. Added to everything else is China's desire to turn Belarus into a large logistics hub for its goods destined for the EU.
Luka has not broken relations with Ukraine, the Baltic states, and not everything is so bad with Poland (yes, Luka did not oppose to issue a card of the Pole for the citizens of Belarus).
It seemed to live and rejoice.
In all seriousness, which could arise as a result of obligations to implement the programs of the Union State, he did not get involved.
I renounced any conflicting statements.
Russia, to the best of his scanty intellect, was kicked from time to time.
But then something happened that he, a peasant with a primitive education, could not even think of.
He decided that the time he spent in the chair of the president allows him to continue to dispose of him as he needs. And the people are perceived by him as an addition to this chair.
How revealing he dragged his youngest son with him. Only a blind man would not understand the meaning of this demarche.
And the people of the Republic of Bashkortostan are not k.retins?
The people understood everything and decided - who are you?
Did the people choose you? Yes.
Today the people want to choose another? Yes.
Get off the motorcycle!
Doesn't want to. It clings.
Oh, and this burden is sweet - power!
Even rowers in galleys, in some countries, want to continue to sit on the oars (or maybe on the steering wheel?) Until the end of the century.

[My doctor]

Quote: demo

I get the impression, judging by the comments, that Luca is the only one who doesn't understand anything! hi

Luke's position, from his point of view, is extremely advantageous.
On the one hand, the CSTO and the Union State. Plus, Russia supported him well economically.
For a long time, by the way.
On the other hand, he is the president of an independent state through which transport and energy flows from Russia to the EU, and vice versa, go. Added to everything else is China's desire to turn Belarus into a large logistics hub for its goods destined for the EU.
Luka has not broken relations with Ukraine, the Baltic states, and not everything is so bad with Poland (yes, Luka did not oppose to issue a card of the Pole for the citizens of Belarus).
It seemed to live and rejoice.
In all seriousness, which could arise as a result of obligations to implement the programs of the Union State, he did not get involved.
I renounced any conflicting statements.
Russia, to the best of his scanty intellect, was kicked from time to time.
But then something happened that he, a peasant with a primitive education, could not even think of.
He decided that the time he spent in the chair of the president allows him to continue to dispose of him as he needs. And the people are perceived by him as an addition to this chair.
How revealing he dragged his youngest son with him. Only a blind man would not understand the meaning of this demarche.
And the people of the Republic of Bashkortostan are not k.retins?
The people understood everything and decided - who are you?
Did the people choose you? Yes.
Today the people want to choose another? Yes.

I completely agree with this text, I have the same impression.

[Incvizitor]

You should have had a headline

Lukashenko "remembered" about the "Union State"

[tihonmarine]

Quote: RUnnm

Nothing is sobering as a swaying chair under your own heel!

For 29 years, Grigorich did not understand the simple truth. "They destroyed the USSR, and then other large fragments of the former union will be destroyed piece by piece." Here are small ones like Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia, Moldova, they do not need to be divided, they are so small, where can we divide.

[Rokambol]

Quote: tihonmarine

Here are small ones like Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia, Moldova, they do not need to be divided, they are already small

If they decide in the west, they will divide these countries too.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Rocumball

If they decide in the west, they will divide these countries too.

These will never be divided. They can only change hands, read books about the history of the Baltic states from the time of the Danish conquests and the founding of Riga by Bishop Albert Buxgewden.

[Rokambol]

Quote: RUnnm

Nothing is sobering as a swaying chair under your own heel!

Both chairs had been loose under him for a long time. Just now one has collapsed, and the second is barely holding on. If the second chair is not replaced, or at least temporarily repaired, it will collapse.

[NEXUS]

Quote: RUnnm

that flirting with the West can lead to anything good?

It's not about flirting with the West, but Luka's elementary desire to sit in his chair, so that he will be buried with him in a thousand years.
And dad does not disdain anything for this. Maybe he can spit in the direction of the Russian Federation, maybe he can substitute the backs of the Poles ... there is a simple and capacious Russian word in relation to such citizens-grunts. And the unification with the Russian Federation, which should have been 15 years ago, will not give Luka the preferences that the sole rule of Belarus, as the highest authority.

[hound]

Late than never what? Understand what you can put on the opinion of your own people if you are friends with Russia?

[immobile2008]

Nothing good will happen, before he did nothing when there was power and support, now even if he wants to, he has no support. We must firmly refuse to support Lukoshenko and promote our strong representative. To put up a Russian candidate in early elections and threaten, you will have a khan, Lukashenko, if you touch your finger. Now, with his undercover games, Lukashenka will quietly grow the anti-Russian opposition, you will see.

[cokol-xnumx]

Don't pick up the phone, let Pompeo call his friend and new brother to Zelensky or Gordon.

[Svetlana]

Quote: cokol-161

Don't pick up the phone, let Pompeo call his friend and new brother to Zelensky or Gordon.

Just take and unravel, for if you do not talk, then the split will turn into a crack, and that, in turn, into an abyss. And this is exactly what the overseas seek.
Well, Zelensky (Ukraine), although not a good one, is also a brother.

[TriA]

It is necessary to talk. It is necessary to understand that this is another round or insight, that Russia is the only country that can ensure the security of a fraternal state from the encroachments of the West.

[Rokambol]

Quote: TriA

You need to understand what this is, another round or epiphany

This is a one-round epiphany. We must prepare the replacement of the dad with a pro-Russian politician

[Angelo Provolone]

let his friend and new brother pompeo

Let him call, of course. Especially Pompeo ...

[shoroh]

When the governor goes mad in the province, the emperor changes the governor in the capital.

[iouris]

The earth is not only round but also small. The emperor is one.

[TriA]

Quote: iouris

The earth is not only round but also small. The emperor is one.

By the emperor of the planet, we should mean a group of people who are trying to control all processes on the planet. But we can now slip into conspiracy secrets.

[iouris]

Quote: TriA

should mean a group of persons

And everywhere you see "democracy", even where everything is covered with a veil of secrecy.

[TriA]

Not always and not everywhere. It all depends on the emperor. Who is he, the emperor caring for the country or the tyrant dictator?

[Simon schempp]

It seems to me that Russia does not need him nafik. Our imperials have already flew like plywood over Paris with another ruler released into circulation - Yanukovych. When, in the end, we received from the whole of Ukraine only a peninsula and one and a half excavators. And Lukoshenko not only hate our population, but also keeps a fig in his pocket when dealing with the Russian Federation.

[seti]

Quote: Simon Schempp

And what will Russia choose?
To step on the Ukrainian rake or take a more promising path in the form of support of the Belarusian people.

Forgot to ask you

[loki565]

Wanguyu will be replaced by a pro-Western Russophobe 99%

[Artyom Volgin]

Here you don't even need to wang, they have worked out this scheme to the smallest detail.

[Deck]

Here you don't even need to wang, they have worked out this scheme to the smallest detail.

This scheme has been worked out by us to the smallest detail. We must support the regime hated by the people, and then once again it will be surprised why we are not loved. This is Putin's master.

[Pechkin]

There seem to be no nationalist slogans at the rallies, no one is shouting a Muscovite at Gilyaka and the like. People want a recount, fair elections. Lukashenka should not have been bullied with 80%. , he also plays.

[APASUS]

Quote: Simon Schempp

It seems to me that Russia does not need him nafik. Our imperials have already flew like plywood over Paris with another ruler released into circulation - Yanukovych. When, in the end, we received from the whole of Ukraine only a peninsula and one and a half excavators. And Lukoshenko not only hate our population, but also keeps a fig in his pocket when dealing with the Russian Federation.

Of course, Russia will choose the people, just not the one who lives in Poland and writes libels on the Internet or sits out in Lithuania, accusing everyone and everything of forgery

[Herman 4223]

Why should the population hate him? Work has good roads. I personally think that if 80% is screwed up, it can not be much by a few percent.

[Alexy]

As for the roads, I don’t know - they will be better in the Smolensk Region. People do not live so well there either.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Simon Schempp

It seems to me that Russia does not need him nafik. Our imperials have already flown like plywood over Paris with another ruler released into circulation - Yanukovych

Your Imperials are seated at Buckingham Palace. And they flew not only with Yanukovych, but also with Assad and Maduro. They will fly over from Lukashenka too.

[rocket757]

It would be funny if it weren't so ... tense.
And now what to do with this self-styled person ??? Is there a place to cook in Rostov ... next to another, very similar one?

[Observer2014]

And now what to do with this self-styled person ???

.

By the way, the other day this scene came out coolly in Minsk, in the performance of the Minsk academic one. Under the leadership of six times chosen ...

All this would be so sad. If only it was not so sad. How can Putin fraternize with him now? To piss off the people of Belarus against himself? And then how to talk about integration to the people? Or a crowd of riot police with shotguns and rubber bullets can make anyone love anything.
The only way out until it's too late, as I see the situation, I for example. Lukashenko, if he still has a reasonable and really desire for the union state. Immediately start a unification campaign. Without the right to hold the post of head of the Belarusian province. Find something to do in old age. It sounds so ephemeral now, but it would be a plus for everyone.

[rocket757]

There is no easy recipe. ANY action on our part will have multidirectional consequences. Wouldn't get the worst of bad right now !!!

[New Year day]

Quote: Observer2014

.Lukashenka if he still has a reasonable and really desire for the union state. Immediately start a unification campaign.

I think that Belarus will not accept any companies from his hands. Hate him. Better to dump him and everything else is someone else, not toxic

[Herman 4223]

About that rumor goes that he already lives in California, in Rostov not comme il faut.

[rocket757]

Any tukh / L / lyatina no longer interests anyone.
And this one, when it sheds and sheds, few people will be interested in, after a very short time.

[Herman 4223]

His honorary position in the union state can still save him, he cannot sit on the throne just like that, he understands this.
The whole question is whether he has guarantees from the United States about his personality for the fact that he will give up his position to whoever needs it.

[rocket757]

Ha, what are remarkable about all foreign shelters, so that there are state
And institutions, institutions, are independent from those who give different guarantees!
Those who sdri there and laugh in e ohm have already been convinced more than once or twice! Without feeding from their former fiefdom / feeder, they quickly end up with a bare net.
However, you have to pay taxes and prove, very often, that their income is "white"!
They are going to adopt the relevant law on the islands !!! They will strip all the newly minted subjects to bare sirloin and very soon!
Interesno will look at STE!

[Herman 4223]

In Britain, they generally like to rip off, I read about the conflict in the Falkland Islands, so the admiral who heroically returned with a victory was asked to return part of his salary after his return, because he ate at the expense of the fleet during the campaign. They are pulling three skins from their own, but from the rest it is even difficult to imagine.

[rocket757]

If you look at who fled there completely, chopping off / losing the feeding umbilical cord from the homeland, even with a lot of money .... who of them is all so good and happy ???
Nope, there are very few of them! But a dime a dozen impoverished !!!

[My doctor]

Quote: Herman 4223

His honorary position in the union state can still save him, he cannot sit on the throne just like that, he understands this.

No longer on the throne. And this is the main result in any case. But he can stay in power, but let him count only on the support of the people, and not turn the law enforcement agencies into an instrument of repression.

[Herman 4223]

It depends on what is meant by repression, if the police force order for me, this is not repression, but putting things in order.

[Prisoner]

On the mind would give him a pendal in the seat. Only there is no other. They were all modest, did not interfere, fed. Everything. Pin ... until now and their satellites do not feed the whole country, but a certain small part, and then the whole country is put in a certain position. Ours work badly, conscientiously.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Captive

I would like to give him a penny ... Ours work poorly ...

Applauding, gracefully worded

[Rokambol]

Quote: Captive

Only the other is not

Therefore, it is now urgently necessary to look for a replacement for him.

[rotmistr60]

today the defense of Belarus is “no less than the defense of the entire Union State”.

And the other day he said something different about the union state. As in a cartoon about a wolf and a calf - well, then, mother, mother ... As soon as it presses and becomes hot, it is not a sin to remember Putin and the union state.

[sedoj]

I’m waiting for everything - when will America finally recognize Tikhanovskaya as the president of Belarus in exile.
After all, judging by her first message, she went to her children and just washed her hands, disowning everything that was happening. The eyes were constantly running from side to side. she never looked into the camera. The next message, apparently after being pumped up by the curators, is the speech of a quite confident woman, read from a piece of paper. So I'm waiting for the West to recognize the new government in exile. Damn, why didn't she run away to London?

[karpusha]

You are clearly not from Belarus and do not know what is happening here. And it would be easy for you if your relative was taken hostage and threatened that they would kill him if you did not record a video. The lawyers were taken out by force, although they had no right. Then they threatened her and her children with violence. Look in what condition people are being released from the ROVD. People are killed for leaving the wrong time and in the wrong place. My brother left the house and almost got a bullet from the riot police right at the entrance. They were shooting in all directions.
Belarusians are not against Russia. We are probably the last who treat you so well. We understand that no one is waiting for us in the west either. But we do not want to live under the rule of a bloody tyrant.

[Hyperion]

I confirm.

[sedoj]

Quote: karpusha

People are killed for leaving the wrong time and in the wrong place.

Is it okay that the seizure of state institutions was planned even before the announcement of the voting results? What was planned to lead the people to unauthorized performances (like sheep to the slaughter) long before D-Day? I agree that a wagon and a small cart have accumulated claims to Lukashenka, but provoking the authorities into violent actions is, excuse me, nonsense of the highest category. More like BDSM.

[New Year day]

Quote: sedoj

was the seizure of state institutions planned even before the announcement of the voting results?

reference to the studio

[sedoj]

https://t.me/skabeeva/3813

[New Year day]

Quote: sedoj

https://t.me/skabeeva/3813

Skabeeva? blackmouth From her rotten mouth only the stench

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: sedoj

Is it okay that the seizure of state institutions was planned even before the announcement of the voting results?

The riot policemen were driving them away from the polling stations with batons and shotguns where they tried to find out the results of the elections - is this what we call the seizure of state institutions?
When the riot police hastily evacuated the members of the commissions with ballots and people went to demand the announcement of the results at their polling stations - is this the seizure of state institutions?

Quote: sedoj

but provoking the authorities into violent actions is, sorry, nonsense of the highest category

Incredibly provoked by people standing on their sites and going out into the city. Not smashing cars, not beating shop windows, not throwing stones and sticks.
To take to the streets in the evening is a provocation of such a vulnerable government. Is the curfew announced?

Quote: sedoj

After all, judging by her first message, she went to her children and just washed her hands, disowning everything that was happening. The eyes were constantly running from side to side. she never looked into the camera.

Well, yes, only the husband is being broken in every possible way and kept in prison without the right of access to a lawyer who has been sitting in a punishment cell for months because of unshaven and cobwebs above the ceiling. As before, there were calls with threats to children, but at the CEC she was left with high-ranking officials for several hours. No witnesses.
And that video was recorded in the same office of the head of the CEC.
Absolute transparency, yeah.

[karpusha]

In fact, there was no pogrom or seizure of the state. institutions. There were no overturned paddy wagons or cars, not even broken shop windows.
But there were bullet holes in the windows of houses, windows broken by grenades, killed and crippled, and all this was done by the security forces.
We have no protest leaders at all. People in house chats are written off and go out into the street.
26 years of lies and solid lies. How do you like the unemployment tax? Not only has the state ruined the economy, but also a tax on the shoulders, and if you do not agree - a stick on the back.

[sedoj]

We have no protest leaders at all. People in house chats are written off and go out into the street.
https://vk.com/video-177565509_456241121

[My doctor]

Quote: sedoj

but to provoke the authorities into violent actions is, excuse me, nonsense of the highest category. More like BDSM.

Do you know anything is possible? Maybe they deliberately provoked the authorities. What would they provoke the people. And along the way, the multi-move was a success.

[sedoj]

Actually, I meant ordinary citizens. As for the provocateurs - yes, I think you are right.

[sedoj]

Quote: karpusha

Belarusians are not against Russia.

Article from "Politicus":
If anyone thinks that the current Belomaidan is in no way aimed at further separation from Russia, then read this opinion. A certain Marina Markova on her Facebook openly writes about the anti-Russian background of all events.

Do you think she walks alone with such thoughts in her head? Any red-and-white flag in Belarus is a growing separation from the Russian world and a course to banderize Belarus, because the war is no longer "theirs" and will soon find those heroes who "fought" with the Red Army during the war years.

[i] “It's surprising, is it true that the Belarusian protests are not held under the national flag?

Probably because it is too soviet - almost the same as it was during the Soviet Union, only without the hammer and sickle.

Another thing is the white-red-white - the flag of the Belarusian People's Republic in 1918, Belarusian collaborators during the Great Patriotic War, independent Belarus from the collapse of the Union to the 1995 referendum and Belarusian nationalists. A symbol of maximum separation from Russia as the successor of the Union, from the common past.

By the way, at the same 1995 referendum, where the state symbols were changed, the Russian language was also adopted as the second state language and the course for economic integration with Russia was supported. Needless to say, with what changes in the country will Belomaidan begin in case of victory?

And, by the way, veterans especially insisted on the red-green flag, for whom the white-red-white canvas was an insult. They, poor fellows, will also turn from liberators into occupiers.

But a little later. ”[/ I]

[pro100y.belarus]

And how do you feel about the tricolor, the symbol of Vlasov's army. And recognized the Ukrainian "zhovto-blakitny" - the symbol of Petliura?

[aleks26]

Quote: karpusha

We understand that no one is waiting for us in the west either. But we do not want to live under the rule of a bloody tyrant.

Curiously, under whose rule do YOU ​​want to live? Have you already decided? Enlighten me, no seriously, there is so much shit thrown on the fan around that it really is impossible to understand what is happening with you from afar. If TV zomboyaschik, then the Internet is the same in the square!

[karpusha]

Watching the internet sources you watch. The people want to live under the rule of the people's elected people. Just this.

[aleks26]

Quote: karpusha

The people want to live under the rule of the people's elected people. Just this.

Well, YOU also chose Luka! Is not it? You can attribute 10%, well, 20%, well, let it be 30%. but the result is 80% versus 10%! Or am I something I don't know?

[karpusha]

the fact of the matter is that he lost with a terrible defeat. For him about 15 ％, the rest are against. At the same time, people do not hide for whom they voted. Gathered near the polling station and raised their hands who voted against. 500 people raised their hands (not all of them came), and in the final bulletin 120 people were against. They lie to the face. At the same time, the members of the election commission themselves say that they refused to sign this bulletin with fake numbers.

[The Little Humpbacked Horse]

Quote: karpusha

My brother left the house and almost got a bullet from the riot police right at the entrance. They were shooting in all directions.

And where did your brother go out of the house at night, could he take part in the riots?

[karpusha]

no, he works at his computer until late at night and goes out to breathe almost every day. He didn't even know about the protests, he thought it was somewhere in the center. He was with his wife, including shooting from the side. Then they kept me in the paddy wagon for half a night, but released me.

[RUnnm]

And under whom do you want? Well, what do you know about Tikhomirova, in principle? The fact that this Soros six will make you hate us in a couple of years - 1000000%

[New Year day]

Quote: sedoj

... she went to her children and just washed her hands, disowning everything that was happening ...

and from her husband in prison? Can you do that?

[sedoj]

In our history it was already when the monarchy fell because of my brother. Now the husband is to blame. Still, the rake is a versatile tool. Everyone wants to step on them again and again.

[Rokambol]

Quote: sedoj

when, finally, America recognizes Tikhanovskaya as the president of Belarus

I think we will soon witness this

Quote: sedoj

judging by her first message

After the first message, she was brainwashed, if she had any, and forced to voice a new message.

Quote: sedoj

why didn't she run away to London?

Who needs it there?

[My doctor]

Quote: sedoj

I’m waiting for everything - when will America finally recognize Tikhanovskaya as the president of Belarus in exile.

Do you think they are oligophrenic in America?

[sedoj]

Guaidó was recognized.

[My doctor]

I do not know what Guaido is, but I have an idea about Tikhanovskaya. She's a dummy, she said so herself.

[Cyril G ...]

Lukashenka said that it was necessary to contact Vladimir Putin.

Yes you sho! Well, you need to contact me ...

[Rokambol]

Indeed, for a long time it was necessary to contact Putin by phone and discuss everything, and wag the fifth point in different directions.

[Odysseus]

If we take into account the force of the roll-over from here from the Russian Federation (where all state media are conducting propaganda about the Maidan), an attempt to rely on the Russian Federation is absolutely futile. In general, this unity (between Putin's "patriots" and "liberals") in an effort to bring radically Russophobic and pro-Western forces to power in Belarus is very touching. It even became difficult to distinguish Vesti fm or Solovyov from Navalny live.
The interests of capital are alpha and omega. And then family quarrels, how best to cut and plunder Russia, sideways.
So Lukashenka should rely only on himself. He brought this situation to himself by making many mistakes. But while the situation can still be saved. We must start acting wisely.

[Herman 4223]

If we consider FM news to be our media, it looks absurd, but I have doubts that it is ours. They work from one leash, one part creates a picture of the absurd, proving that everything is fine, and the other part successfully exposes this picture. In this case, everything falls into place.

[Anatole Klim]

We need to contact Putin, the President of Russia, so that I can talk to him now.

Oh, and the cunning, oh yes, bitch ... son, now decided to hide behind Putin's back to preserve his throne, but is it worth Putin to mess with this situation, Rygorych threw so much shit on Russia, finally showed his essence in all its glory. But on the other hand, you cannot lose Belarus, and the Kremlin has not created and nurtured a truly pro-Russian candidate, Babariko is still unclear. Yes, Monomakh's hat is heavy, I don't even know what Putin will decide.

[Herman 4223]

Yes, you can forgive, he returned the detained Russians, the news was today. Apparently he's so sorry.

[Shkworen]

The other day they wrote in the news that Putin's schedule does not provide for time for meetings with Lukashenka :)

[Pavel57]

Quote: cokol-161

Don't pick up the phone, let Pompeo call his friend and new brother to Zelensky or Gordon.

Take the phone the third time, let him think.

[paul3390]

There is a mutiny in Aran, the barons are looking for you, the army is split ... surprisingly, some regiments are still on your side, they are gathering under the capital, the turmoil is unfolding in earnest ... What kind of help can there be, Hartog, it's ridiculous ... Take a vassal oath according to all the rules. Anyway ... I have no time for charity. You will now write a renunciation in my favor, and I will honestly provide you with a quiet old age in prosperity and complete safety. I will look for some post more suitable for your abilities.

[Avior]

Not the case.
Medieval orders, Svarog celestial-lar, the favorite of the empress, the owner of the actual planet, and put Hartog in the place of the ruler, which, according to the rules, had to go to him, at that time his companion, in his place as the sole ruler, besides, without being interested by the way, whether he is suitable for this or not.
Nothing like this.
Yes, and Svarog has changed considerably in the course of the cycle; now he does not shy away from genocide, for example.

[Harry.km]

“You have no idea what impudence they have gotten to,” Hartog said, murdered. - In broad daylight on the square in front of the castle ...
- I told you - these details are unlikely to be useful to us now, - Svarog interrupted mercilessly - in a quite polite tone, really. - What do you expect from me?
Hartog looked up at him with dull eyes.
- I thought it would be possible to somehow agree on help ...

[Operator]

Chernigovets Rygorych remembered that he was a "Belarusian"

[Asad]

You need to marinate your unlucky neighbor so that you can follow the ,, bazaar!

[From Tomsk]

To be honest, a pitiful sight ...

[iouris]

Calmly, the union state remembers its subjects. They will call you. Wait.

[Alexga]

Here is the source:
August 15, Minsk / Corr. BELTA /. At a meeting in Minsk today, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko spoke about the socio-political situation in the country, BelTA has learned.

"We see what is happening. We do not need to be lulled by peaceful actions and demonstrations. We see what is happening in the depths. We see it very well. And then, we read the manuals of color revolutions. Moreover, to the manuals of color revolutions (this is a feature , we will talk about this today at the Ministry of Defense at the Strategic Management Center), elements of external interference have already appeared, "the head of state said.

“That is, what I said - in fact, according to the scenario, an aggression against Belarus is unfolding. We need to contact Putin, the President of Russia, so that I can talk with him now. Because this is already a threat not only to Belarus. You know, some Russians, I’m watching , there, too smart, start shouting: here, Belarus, this is not that way ... I want to say that the protection of Belarus today is no less than the protection of our entire space, the Union State, and an example to others. If the Belarusians cannot stand it, it will roll this wave goes there. That is why they clung to us so much, "the President stressed.

“Those who roam the streets, most of them don't understand this. Those who coordinate and direct do understand this. And you see - sometimes they work professionally: staged shots, fakes. It turns out that they have already found some that house. Now I want to publicly say: you found it - take it away. I have no property in Belarus, except for the official residence, where I live in the village. No, these are starting fakes. It turns out that I already left the country the day before yesterday, it turns out I either he died or got sick. And it's all spinning. For what? To create this vile mood among the people. It will not work. We must not allow this, "Alexander Lukashenko said.
https://www.belta.by/president/view/lukashenko-ne-nado-ubajukivat-mirnymi-aktsijami-my-vidim-chto-v-glubine-proishodit-402937-2020/

[New Year day]

those. ransacked half the country, provoked strikes, and in the end ...

Quote: AlexGa

.... aggression against Belarus is unfolding ..

So who unfolds it?

Quote: AlexGa

Because this is already a threat not only to Belarus.

it is a threat primarily to Luke's personal power, and then everything else.
As the saying goes "do not confuse a personal pocket with a state one"

[Herman 4223]

What I hear is that dad really decided to move with us? Even wondering what moved him to this?

[iouris]

Quote: Herman 4223

really dad decided to move with us?

I wish I knew where I am going with you.

[Herman 4223]

If you want to know where you are moving, you need to open your eyes.

[BISMARCK94]

Enchanting personality.
The absolute world champion in air change shoes.
Once I considered PAH adequate ... Or is it senile

[Livonetc]

In principle, many people have done for their country.
However, you must leave on time.
Now dad will be remembered as Alexander Mandella.
Fussy, windy mandella.

[rags]

Yes, Lukashenka played at the highest stakes and lost along the way, did not expect that they would play against him "multi-vector".

[Rubi0]

Oh and ... If right now, they begin to move towards the union state, then he and the Russian Federation will receive sanctions. Right now he's so toxic to everyone that he'd better leave

[Incvizitor]

For the Russian Federation, they will come up with sanctions for another reason, and at the expense of the Republic of Belarus, any sanctions are much better than becoming a Western colony.

[Rubi0]

You just need to do it a couple of years ago, and not now when the fried rooster pecked. Euro-Atlanticists always remember their solidarity and unity, and here they play independence until they lose their pulse

[Vladimir M]

It looks like the people of Belarus are stepping on the rake of Ukraine. They consider themselves smarter than the Ukrainians and say that they do not need Maidan and bloodshed. Naive! The European people are not interested in their opinion. Now the Europeople are quickly organizing corpses like the Ukrainian "Heavenly Hundred" and there is no country. Although the fault lies entirely with Lukashenkos by his cunning ... trickery. He also decided that he could come to an agreement with the West.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Vladimir M

Ukrainian "heavenly hundreds" and still no country. Although the fault lies entirely with Lukashenkos by his cunning ... trickery. He also decided that he could come to an agreement with the West.

Exactly. Dude, he seriously thinks that he is considered a person there? As for the provocation, I agree - today, tomorrow there are more people on the streets in Minsk, and our enemies may well organize a "bulky hundred" ...

[Incvizitor]

Why do they like to call the galloping, corrupt minority "people"?

[Looking for]

Quote: karpusha

But we do not want to live under the rule of a bloody tyrant.

interesting. This is what kind of bloody terror was in BELARUS ???

[boss]

Lukashesku gotofff already on the chair of the speaker of the union state?
Do we need such a speaker ?!
Which will come running when the Belarusians caught up.
Maybe let them sail to China with the makei ?!

[taiga2018]

It is clear that the Belarusians need to drink this pro-Western cup to the bottom, otherwise they cannot be brought to their senses ... It will not work to quarrel us with them as with Ukrainians or Georgians, because there are no territorial disputes between us and accuse that we have "squeezed out something from them. " will not work...

[Elysium]

The mustachioed cockroach needed Russia's help after the elections. And there is no point in keeping them as hostages.

But he can ask for military help. It will become of him.

[Cyril G ...]

Only if Exclusively in terms of organizing the RB defense against intervention. Only this way and nothing else. And in suppressing riots, let him rake with what he has done ...

[anjey]

Indeed, there is a chance to unite according to the CSTO charter, declare a threat of a coup from outside to Old Man, evidence a wagon and a small cart, GDP support an ally by military force, restore order, squeeze out the pro-Western elite of Belarus to their beloved West and hold a referendum, otherwise we will get Krajina 2 and the same corrupting influence on Russia, decisiveness is terrible with the western howl, but it will make enemies respect us and reckon with us.

[Alexander X]

Maybe I won't be right, but Lukashenka's only way of salvation now is to urgently annex Belarus to Russia and remain a representative of the President. Putting things in order in the republic, relying on the resources of the entire new state. And after a while, calmly retire, giving way to the governor appointed from the Kremlin ... The rest of the options are close to the scenario with Gaddafi ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Alexander X

it is urgent to annex Belarus to Russia

those. do not ask the opinion of Belarusians? Take the lost sheep by the udder and into the stall, along with the whole country?

[cost]

sheep in the stall

[anjey]

Half of the Belarusians, like the Ukrainians, are all the same with Russia, there will of course be a split, provocations and shooting in the back, but you cannot strategically lose Belarus either, the Yankees are already in Poland, if you unite it with Russia, they will flee back to Germany. , of course, from the couch, then it is not worth losing such territory and people of the fraternal people, it's time to collect stones.

[New Year day]

We need to contact Putin, the President of Russia, so that I can talk to him now.

What's again?

[askort154]

loki565 ....Vanguyu will be replaced by a pro-Western Russophobe 99

He learned this postulate even after the collapse of the USSR. Therefore, he constantly blatantly blackmailed Russia with this. The calf began to suck a lot and sweetly on the boob, while regularly nibbling at it, showing that its teeth are already cutting through. Now, having received a lesson that he should behave so impudently, he will again be "affectionate" to his wet nurse. You can't play long with such "preziki". But he was again given "krone blanche", his patient ally - Russia and China, who joined this. He felt himself on horseback again. He realized that they would not leave him - and he would continue the same "strategy in his career" and continue to blackmail them - "I am your last frontier in the West."
Therefore, Luka hopes to change his chased "the last dictator of Europe" to "the last zealot of Eastern tsyvalization", And there and "Kolya will arrive in time." Lukashenka today has become a "suitcase without a handle"
for all. After his divorce, like a sucker, by the "CIA-SBU-services", who framed our 33 people, he will no longer be a "handshake" in the Kremlin. And if he holds on to one of the chairs, his office, a year later, as if nothing had happened, he would begin his usual blackmail of Russia. And where to go to her, because this "son of a bitch", was fed by her milk.

[Moskal 55]

We are in real conditions! Russia is not the USSR, there is no social camp, there is NATO, but there is no Warsaw Pact. We ourselves are to blame for this and we need to crawl out!

[Incvizitor]

On the one hand, the bow is a complete pig, but the people of the union republic must be saved.

[gost2012]

Quote: Incvizitor

On the one hand, the bow is a complete pig, but the people of the union republic must be saved.

for this it is necessary to guarantee the people the removal of the AHL and the elections under the control of observers. This is how the people of Belarus can be saved. To support the AHL is to get the hatred of all people in Belarus and go to the West.
Not everyone wants to go to the West, I definitely don’t want to, but everyone has one thought - anywhere, if only not with him.
If the Kremlin doesn't understand this, consider us in the West.
If they support the AHL, and God forbid, he will retain the throne - there will be no Russophiles, and quite possibly there will be a hot spot, and the Russian Federation will be an enemy there.
Shake Kiev out of your heads - it's not tracing paper. This is precisely what the people, and Russophobes, and Russophiles, and just like that people - everyone does not want AHL, he lost the elections. There are no "cookies" here yet, but the Kremlin will chew snot - there will be no Russophiles.

[forty-eighth]

The people of the union republic must be saved. From Lukashenka. When polite people land in Minsk and put their father in shackles, it will be greeted with general jubilation.

[Moskal 55]

Citizens, but you need to help! Telegrams of Batka's support to the Embassy of the Republic of Belarus, letters by email. mail. It would be great to gather at the Embassy of the Republic of Belarus in support of Batka, but here you need to organize. I'm weak myself.
The easiest - [email protected] - mail of the embassy of the Republic of Belarus.

[Sergy]

Good afternoon to everyone from a resident of the Republic of Belarus!
I specially registered at VO to comment on the current situation in Belarus.
First. Lukashenka really did a lot of good (conditionally) in the first 5-10 years of his rule - he didn’t allow the enterprises to be “robbed and plundered” and blah-blah-blah. Compared to what was happening around the Republic of Belarus at that time, it was just a miracle and salvation for the people, his support was almost massive and real, they almost prayed for him. However, he forgot (or did not know) that, first of all, the country must have a strong economy to ensure "clean streets", the operation of state-owned enterprises at a loss for many years, the efficient work of the security forces and the presidential vertical. And in the second half of the 2000s, when the Yeltsin agreements ended and Putin's agreements were not signed, the economy began to crumble. For 2005-2015, HALF of enterprises in the country operate at a loss, in 2019 the profit of a multi-thousand MAZ was only $ 10 thousand. The external debt is only growing - in order to repay it, all workers need to work for 9 months for free. The country rests only on the resale of oil and potash fertilizers. Belarusians watched with laughter the Russian devaluation in 2015 - "only 2 times - from 35 to 70! Weaklings!" From 2009 to 202 Belarusian rubles depreciated - attention - 113 times !!! Don't believe me? In vain! The country has a contractual system of labor relations - contracts with employees are concluded for 1-5 years, after the expiration of the contract, the employer has the right not to renew the contract and hire a new employee. Without explaning the reason. Isn't it a way to cover the mouth of the dissatisfied? By the current elections, the authorities have lost confidence in themselves and confidence in the future from a huge percentage of their supporters. Yes, many vote for "anyway there was no war." Until recently, it was so.
Second. When real alternatives to Lukashenka appeared before the election campaign, many took it with enthusiasm as a chance for changes for the better. However, what happened to the alternative candidates next was in no way! Streams of shit and lies poured from the GOS-media (and we have no others), two were imprisoned on trumped-up charges, the third was simply not registered. Tikhanovskaya is a really random person, a housewife. But now it is a symbol of a new time, a new period in the life of the country. Most of Lukashenka's supporters saw all the dishonesty and filth of the pre-election "struggle". Lukashenka used all the might of the state apparatus - legal pickets were prohibited, people were jailed for "80 hours", criminal cases were started from scratch. It was all so obvious that for the first time people went to the polls to say no to him. They went absolutely voluntarily, not for money! However, the formation of election commissions, the recruitment of observers, the very organization of the "election process" left no one in the slightest doubt - its XNUMX% are drawn a little less than completely!

[gost2012]

Yes, they have a maidan of the brain here, still back in 2014. We are sure that 80 for AHL, even though you tell them what, - one answer, your roads are good, and the State Department is hired on the streets.
AHL committed (not for the first time) a coup, an illegal seizure of power, committed a serious criminal offense. Whom do you want to help, smart guys?

[master 52]

If I were Lukashenka, I would have forced the creation of a union state. only this will save him otherwise the trouble, because in small towns the security forces have already bought

[gost2012]

who bought them, these security officials? hard workers from half-dead factories or collective farmers from potato and beet fields? God, what nonsense, what trash in their heads ...

[master 52]

and there is no one else to buy besides the collective farmers?

[gost2012]

Quote: 52 master

and there is no one else to buy besides the collective farmers?

the fact of the matter is that there is no one. We don't have any cookie carriers yet, but soon they will. The difference between our affairs and Kiev is that our people really stood up, themselves, spontaneously. There is no one to talk to. On Friday, three or four teams gathered to create all kinds of rescue committees, no one commands a megaphone, actions in Minsk in different districts are spontaneous. The damned West cannot find someone to give money and offers - neither the party, nor the headquarters, generally fucking. Requirements - only one thing - go away !. Neither the West, nor the Kremlin, nor the AHL, nor even its elites, if they want to change their shoes, have no one to negotiate with. There is no center.
And while you are looking for the hand of NATO, the Republic of Belarus is smoothly going to the EU, because the ram of protest, young animals, and there are 20-30% of them, they have always drowned for Europe. If the Kremlin said now - new elections are needed, the AHL should resign, I will provide observers for the new elections and guarantee their transparency, and if the military police need to stand between the riot police and the people, 2/3 would have left the streets, and the GDP would become our liberators and an icon, and any union on any terms would be yours.

[Anton S]

Quote: Herman 4223

Why should the population hate him? Work has good roads. I personally think that if 80% is screwed up, it can not be much by a few percent.

Believe me, you are seriously mistaken

[Sergy]

Third. After an attempt to righteously be indignant at what was happening (peacefully indignant! Nobody beat shop windows, did not throw stones at the police, did not seize buildings), what you all saw happened. ONLY Lukashenka is to blame for this! No "Western puppeteers" will raise such a mass of people to protest! Even those who voted for him came out - the people are shocked by the lies and aggression of the authorities! There are NO coordinators, nothing is planned - this is a natural result of many consecutive mistakes of the authorities! People are outraged by what happened to the core! They spat in the soul of all the people and told them to wipe themselves off and go to work in the morning! With his rhetoric on TV, Lukashenka only adds gasoline to the fire. He does not want to see what is happening on the streets now, does not want (or cannot) UNDERSTAND why it happened. His administration is trying to blabber the people, transfer anger to HIM only towards the OMON, not wanting to hear that HE and only HE are the cause of everything that happened. I do not deny - perhaps there are Cossack women sent somewhere, however, as in Ukraine, such protests would not have taken place from scratch. These are not protests of thousands - these are protests of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS!

[gost2012]

Already Kommersant writes - phoned.

[north 2]

We must honestly admit that neither Donbass nor Belarus, as part of Russia, is needed by today's Russia. Putin only once officially remembered something about the Russian World and about Novorossia and the fact that the destruction
The USSR is the biggest geopolitical catastrophe and ... fell silent, as if frightened by what he said. But the consequences of catastrophes are always corrected, always restoring that which destroyed the catastrophe.
If Putin is not now using the situation in Belarus to start creating a new formation of the Russian
Empires and urgently do not annex Belarus to Russia, then Russia will lose Belarus and the Empire will not be recreated. And not the imperial model of state structure, in which the Empire must necessarily include Great Russia, Little Russia, New Russia and White Russia, not the imperial model of the state will all lead to the possible death of Russia. What if
Putin and Lukashenka will again give birth to a union state and not the Russian Empire, then Belarus and
then he will sit and eat fish, and Russia will be as convenient as this Lukashenka and
feed the fish. And no republics in the new Empire! Only provinces and not along national borders
inside the camp.
The most important nuance is that Belarus during the USSR did not need to be fed with subsidies. This means that even now the Belarusians will not sit on the neck of the Russians if they are part of the Russian Empire.

[da Vinci]

In my opinion, it is still very early to create a union state. It is not necessary to invite new members, but that they themselves would scratch at the door, and this will not be soon. It's no secret that many in Belarus believe that they want to be dragged in by force, why add oil to a burning frying pan; let them cool down, think, get donations at world prices and standards. Therefore, now is the time for the GDP to declare that the creation of the union state is a matter of the future.

[Sergy]

Fourth. About Russia. Protests within the Republic of Belarus are an internal affair of the Republic of Belarus, we do not need any assistants or peacekeepers. The people of the Republic of Belarus have only one claim against Russia - why has Russia been supporting Lukashenko for so many years? Russia acts according to the principle "although it is a son of a bitch, it is OUR son of a bitch." In Belarus, a very small part of the population wants to unite with Russia. And we suck a little - with Europe. We do not have Russophobic sentiments, we speak Russian, there is a lot of common culture and history. But we have anger and resentment to read in every second commentary and article that Belarus is part of the "Great Russian Empire", that "they are ours," that "they must be saved from the Maidan." Why is it impossible to live in good-neighborly relations, or are there only 2 extremes - either within the Russian Federation or within NATO? Supported Lukashenko, the Russian government is turning the entire population of Belarus against itself. None of the current candidates in the elections spoke about the severing of ties with the Russian Federation, about the general nationalization-Belarusianization, about the "maskalyaku on the gilyaka"! EVERYONE spoke about the need to be friends and cooperate. Yes, only Lukashenka spoke about "integration". But - he lost the election!
The Belarusian people must be saved, but not from the "bloodthirsty west", but from the presumptuous tyrant! And the support of the people will be received by the one who helps to do this, and not the one who supports him. Our Russian-Belarusian relations depend on this.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Thrifty

And what should we do with him now? Shit on everyone and everything, but now Russia help out? Not to see the wheelchair of the throne, it is already almost blazing under the guz-n of the bow, and "Bolivar will not stand two" ...

what to do? what to do?))))) the client has matured - to surround Grygorych, so that henceforth he will not freak out stupid things and walk into the wake as expected

[senima56]

V. Yanukovych also wanted to "sit on two chairs" at once! The result is known!

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Quote: Halpat

Did Bulba speak with a human tongue? I do not believe.

He has it out of fright ...

having allocated him and Kolya a small farm in the Oryol region somewhere, and better in Altai ... far from the western borders of a single union state.

Better in Oymyakon or Naryanmar. To the extreme in Yakutsk ...

and on the Far East hectare they give in their hands ... one body is equal to one hectare))))) this is the lope of potato to grow mona)))

[Igor Polovodov]

On this wave, the drift to the union will be more pronounced, otherwise Belarus will turn into "Bylarus" ...

[Vladimir M]

Quote: Alexander X

Maybe I won't be right, but Lukashenka's only way of salvation now is to urgently annex Belarus to Russia and remain a representative of the President. Putting things in order in the republic, relying on the resources of the entire new state. And after a while, calmly retire, giving way to the governor appointed from the Kremlin ... The rest of the options are close to the scenario with Gaddafi ...

Sly-ass Lukashenka was late with this

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Vladimir M

Quote: Alexander X
Maybe I won't be right, but Lukashenka's only way of salvation now is to urgently annex Belarus to Russia and remain a representative of the President. Putting things in order in the republic, relying on the resources of the entire new state. And after a while, calmly retire, giving way to the governor appointed from the Kremlin ... The rest of the options are close to the scenario with Gaddafi ...

Sly-ass Lukashenka was late with this

It is not too late to announce a referendum, following which the union of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus will be formalized, with a promise to arrange repeated elections if the union is not supported in the referendum.
Here it will be clear where exactly the people of Belarus have gathered - "under the Russian oligarchs and Putin's tyranny", or in the arms of an affectionate democracy. Fortunately, examples are nearby - Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic states ...

[Vladimir M]

The people have now gathered against Lukashenka and do not think about the future. Lukashenka is late

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Vladimir M

The people have now gathered against Lukashenka and do not think about the future. Lukashenka is late

AHL is still the president of Belarus. Legitimate, in contrast to others, who went abroad, "fearing" for their household health, leaving her husband in prison. Dolores Ibarurri will not leave Tihanovskaya. He will hand over the country with giblets, and feed the Democrats with cutlets ...

[Vladimir M]

I didn't argue with that. I just said, LAS tried to negotiate with the West and lost

[Anton S]

Quote: aleks26

Quote: karpusha

We understand that no one is waiting for us in the west either. But we do not want to live under the rule of a bloody tyrant.

Curiously, under whose rule do YOU ​​want to live? Have you already decided? Enlighten me, no seriously, there is so much shit thrown on the fan around that it really is impossible to understand what is happening with you from afar. If TV zomboyaschik, then the Internet is the same in the square!

You see, in these elections the people would vote for Winnie the Pooh and Cheburashka, if only not for Lukashenka

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Pechkin

There seem to be no nationalist slogans at the rallies, no one is shouting a Muscovite at Gilyaka and the like. People want a recount, fair elections. Lukashenka should not have been bullied with 80%. , he also plays.

What flags do they use? Where does the coverage of protests come from? do not turn on the fool for us

[Sergy]

They carry all sorts of flags - both state and white-red-white. They beat both of them equally. If anything, the white-red-white flag is the historical flag of Belarus, which was a much longer period of history than the current one. For some reason, no one in Russia is outraged by the use of the tricolor ?? Judging by your logic, the flag of the Russian Federation should be a red cloth. About the coverage of the protests. They do not need to be illuminated by someone! Watch the video without comments - and so everything is clear! In 2020, you don't need to turn on the TV and listen to official propaganda.

[Vladimir61]

Everything that happened will be discussed for a long time. But the fact remains that Luka, having purged healthy political forces in the Republic, flirted with the West in contrast to Russia. And in Russia, all this was digested almost silently. What do we know about the political movement in Belarus? Nothing! We only discussed his attacks towards Russia and curtsies towards the West. On our political talk shows, we have never seen representatives of the left and patriotic (in the good sense of the word) forces of Belarus; issues of political life and social processes taking place in Belarus were not discussed with them. We practically did not raise issues of a political, allied approach, as South Ossetia admitted, to the events in Crimea and Donbass. Moreover, they did not raise questions about the “unnoticed by the authorities” participation of Belarusians in the ranks of the nationalist battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the simultaneous persecution of Belarusian volunteers who fought in the Donbass. We sprinkled in “dry” figures of assistance and preferences for Belarus, but at the level of officials, and did not convey our position to the Belarusian people. We don’t even know how extensive the cultural exchange is between our countries, or is there nothing else besides the “Slavic Bazaar” festival and cross-border contacts of “folk round dances”? And they did a lot of other things carelessly, emphasizing only their “fatigue” from the unpredictable Luka.
Peoples are related not by officials, but by common history, public diplomacy and fraternal solidarity.

[Pandiurin]

A similar situation as if...

The man loudly announced:
"People, I
I'M PLANNING!!!
DISCUSS!!!
What you are
MUST!!!
Save me from the oncoming steam locomotive.

Not long before
The man chained himself to the rails; there was not much time left before the locomotive was running at full speed...
Those around him shouted
-What are you doing, man, the locomotive will run you over, get off the rails.
And he scolded them, saying that he was a strong business executive, dad, and knew what he was doing.

There are many options on how to save him.
- You can stop the locomotive.
- you can saw through the chain and pull it off the rails.
But there is no time left.
You can only have time to lie down on the rails next to him...

The most effective help was already provided to him, when they said that he did not need to go on the rails...

Now the weekend has arrived, and by the end it will be clear where he has taken the situation.

Interesting, for example, is the figure of McKay, head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, a pro-Western Russophobe.
He may go over to the side of the protesters, and an alternative transitional government will be organized around him, with the support of EU ambassadors. I just created a figure that was perfect for this.

[dSK]

Quote: Pandiurin

Interesting, for example figure of Mackay as head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs pro-Western Russophobe.

The Arab League put him in place with the Foreign Ministry in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, but the CIA officers outplayed him in the end.

[A.TOR]

There are so many comments that Lukashenko “must” urgently agree to a union state with the Russian Federation... But the people of Belarus for the most part do not recognize him as a legitimate president - HOW can he resolve such issues?
And in general: such decisions CANNOT be made by the president - this is the prerogative of the PEOPLE in a referendum.
It is interesting to look at the HONESTLY CONDUCTED referendum in Belarus on this topic...

[gyroscope]

Wonderful man Lukashenko. If I hadn’t imprisoned my opponents and pictured a victory for myself, 57% of the problems wouldn’t have happened....

[gost2012]

Quote: Gyroscope

Wonderful man Lukashenko. If I hadn’t imprisoned my opponents and pictured a victory for myself, 57% of the problems wouldn’t have happened....

I couldn’t, my housewife Tikhanovskaya carried it out like a child by a wide margin, to say nothing of the banker, I wouldn’t have drawn it, they wouldn’t have given it to me. And now we won’t give it. We don't want AGL.

[RUS96]

Crafty petition

[hound]

I read the comments and it just makes my hair stand on end. Nobody cares about the riot police who beat and torture people for no reason. Nobody cares about people who disagree with the fact that they are being blatantly lied to. The main thing is that Lukashenko stays with Russia IN WORDS. Until last week, for me there was no difference between the Motherland, Belarus, and Russia. Now there is a difference, and boundaries have also appeared.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Jagdhund

I read the comments and it just makes my hair stand on end. Nobody cares about the riot police who beat and torture people for no reason. Nobody cares about people who disagree with the fact that they are being blatantly lied to. The main thing is that Lukashenko stays with Russia IN WORDS. Until last week, for me there was no difference between the Motherland, Belarus, and Russia. Now there is a difference, and boundaries have also appeared.

You are completely right ...
They vote unanimously

And today we are forbidden

And what has changed?

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Jagdhund

Now there is a difference, and boundaries have also appeared.

I have the same feelings. They see nothing except their fucking geopolitics. Well what can I say - imperials. And we, like Lukashenko, are not a people, but a people.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Sergy

They carry all sorts of flags - both state and white-red-white. They beat both of them equally. If anything, the white-red-white flag is the historical flag of Belarus, which was a much longer period of history than the current one. For some reason, no one in Russia is outraged by the use of the tricolor ?? Judging by your logic, the flag of the Russian Federation should be a red cloth. About the coverage of the protests. They do not need to be illuminated by someone! Watch the video without comments - and so everything is clear! In 2020, you don't need to turn on the TV and listen to official propaganda.

go to the market and goop a goose there and fuck him in the head)))))) I don’t need it... you’ve already seen all the good against all the bad... you’ve seen it more than once... I’ll tell you the results... the tricolor is the flag of the Russian Federation , walk with the state flag of the Republic of Belarus and there are no questions... and where do the legs of the Belarusian historical flag grow from, I know... don’t try to put sheep’s clothing on me like a wolf... they are children))))) for DB your info

[boris]

In recent years, it has become fashionable to criticize Yanukovych and Lukashenko.
Let's look back a little. The first Maidan in Kyiv
was in 2004. The conditionally pro-Russian won the second round
candidate Yanukovych. This is where the pandemonium began in Kyiv.
“All progressive humanity” demanded the annulment
voting results and conduct the third round. By the way,
This is the first and only case in world practice. To Kyiv
several foreign ministers rushed, including
Polish and German. And then the Kremlin strongly supported the “pro-
Russian "candidate Yanukovych? They pushed very hard then
progressive Yushchenko. A very strong incentive to be "pro-
Russian" candidate (and president). After a few
years in 2010, Yanukovych nevertheless became the president of Ukraine.
It is not difficult to assume that during the next Maidan
he did not count too much on serious support from
side of the Kremlin, which is quite logical. One more episode.
In 2010 on the First Channel of Russian Television
there was a program called "Multiple Personalities". In this
the program more than once mocked both Yanukovych and
Lukasheko. Another reason to think about whether
It's good to be "pro-Russian". If desired, it was possible
I would like to find other examples. So the Kremlin has long
It's time to think about how to build relationships with
their closest (and not so close) neighbors.

[karpusha]

If anyone is interested in the thoughts of an ordinary Belarusian, about the opposition and the situation in the country, I am ready to talk with everyone on discord in the evening. I will answer what is happening here and your questions.

[Nikolaevich I]

“I started talking about Putin...” Yeah, “sweet couple”...Putin and Lukashenko! Disagreements? Come on...! Dear ones scold, just amuse themselves!...

[cat Rusich]

It will “calm down” in Minsk, about six months will pass and the “old song about the main thing” will begin: how much is gas?, what discounts? “We are a free independent country - Moscow is not a decree for us”... and so on and so forth - that’s what we’ve heard for the last 20-25 years.

[tank64rus]

It is necessary to create a Union State not in words, but in deeds, and for those who do not understand that this is a rehearsal for 2024 in Russia, look at the chronicle of events in Ukraine and Belarus.

[loaln]

Why do we need such “union-statists” if the bulk of them are more like the best representatives of Bandera’s followers from the same, but former “pseudo-brotherly” sub-state?