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"Elections are rigged": the European Union is preparing sanctions against Belarus

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"Elections are rigged": the European Union is preparing sanctions against Belarus

The European Union does not recognize the results of the elections in Belarus, their results are falsified. This is the opinion of the EU foreign ministers after discussing the Belarusian elections in Brussels on Friday. This is stated in the statement of the EU foreign policy service.


According to the head of EU diplomacy, Josep Borrell, following an informal meeting, the EU made a decision to prepare sanctions against those involved in "election fraud and violence against protesters." The lists have not yet been drawn up, when the sanctions will be introduced, it has not been announced. The European Union is just beginning to draw up "black lists".

Belarus: EU does not accept election results. Work begins to impose sanctions against those responsible for the violence and fraud

Borrell declared.

At the same time, the EU refused to say whether Alexander Lukashenko will fall under the sanctions.

Meanwhile, US Senator Lindsey Graham called on the United States and the European Union to impose sanctions against Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko "for violence against protesters and electoral fraud."

In addition, Graham warned Donald Trump that Russian "green men" could appear in Belarus.

Beware of the "little green men" traveling from Russia to Belarus to stop fake election protests

- he added.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 15 August 2020 08: 14 New
    20
    The European Union does not recognize the results of the elections in Belarus, their results are falsified.
    Well, they would have walked in the forest!
    Look, let France advise the "yellow vests" to transfer power.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 15 August 2020 08: 19 New
      21
      Beware of the "little green men" traveling from Russia to Belarus

      Why not in the USA? Is Trump elected in Belarus? belay fool
      1. Arlen
        Arlen 15 August 2020 10: 36 New
        19
        European Union. Someone expected something else from them? Not. They took better care of their internal affairs.
        P.S. Today, thirty years ago, at the age of 28, the legend of Russian rock Viktor Tsoi died. Eternal memory to the legendary Viktor Tsoi.
        1. dmmyak40
          dmmyak40 15 August 2020 12: 19 New
          +6
          A star called the Sun! Eternal memory of Vityusha ... He will live forever in his songs!
        2. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 15 August 2020 12: 30 New
          +7
          P.S. Today, thirty years ago, at the age of 28, the legend of Russian rock Viktor Tsoi died. Eternal memory to the legendary Viktor Tsoi.


    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 August 2020 08: 20 New
      21
      Quote: Victor_B
      Well, they would have walked in the forest!
      Let them advise France, they propose to transfer power to the "yellow vests".

      That "their","democratic" yes
      And with strangers, Russia, Belarus - they act differently. This is where But Father, in order to correct all the mistakes he made earlier, forgetting about ambitions, and would go to rapprochement with Russia.

      The rapprochement from which there, in the West - take your breath away !

      And Russia to lend a brotherly shoulder to Belarusians yes
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 15 August 2020 08: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: Insurgent
        That "their", "democratic".
        And with strangers, Russia, Belarus - they act differently.

        (Guessingly)
        Double standards?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 15 August 2020 08: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: Victor_B
          (Guessingly)
          Double standards?

          A separately prescribed model of behavior by the West.
          1. Shkworen
            Shkworen 15 August 2020 09: 17 New
            +5
            for me this is their natural behavior :)
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 19 New
              +4
              Quote: Shkworen
              for me this is their natural behavior :)

              Naturally yes I wrote about this yes , chosen by them, for "theirs" and "strangers" ...
      2. Dmitry10SPb
        Dmitry10SPb 15 August 2020 09: 12 New
        -19
        To whom is there a brotherly shoulder to substitute? This is how you write about the impostor against whom the nation opposed. Rake-walking - like our favorite sport?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 15 New
          16
          Quote: Dmitry10SPb
          This is how you write about the impostor against whom the nation opposed.

          О nation did you speak? What's next - " Ukraine Belarus ponad usse","Glory to the nation-death to the enemies"?
          1. exalibor
            exalibor 15 August 2020 09: 27 New
            -16
            Quote: Insurgent
            Are they talking about the nation? Then what - "Ukraine Belarus on a mustache", "Glory to the nation-death to the enemies"?

            you open even the Internet and look who took to the streets .... he said everything correctly it was the NATION and the PEOPLE !!!
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 54 New
              17
              Quote: exalibor
              you open even the Internet and look who took to the streets .... he said everything correctly it was the NATION and the PEOPLE !!!

              Such a NATION that brought to power NAZI I already saw it in 2014.

              We still sip ...
              1. exalibor
                exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 38 New
                -8
                Quote: Insurgent
                I have already seen such a NATION that brought the NATION to power in 2014.

                how many times I ask but no one answers .... where did you see these Nazis here ???
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 15 August 2020 10: 56 New
                  12
                  Quote: exalibor
                  how many times I ask but no one answers .... where did you see these Nazis here ???

                  I do not know how to insert this video, so link : https://rusvesna.su/news/1577013086
                  "I shoot well!": "Bandera's" grandfather conquered "patriots" with threats to Lukashenka and Putin
                  This is the "old Zmagar guard", a lot of the same, but young and healthy, you now have on the street.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 15 August 2020 16: 32 New
                    +4
                    This is the "old Zmagar guard"

                    Luca did his best to make it this way.
                    And he discredited the Union State.
                    And he put those who defended Donbass in jail.
                    And those who fought for ukkrov-walk free.
                    He even introduced visa-free travel with Europe and the United States.
                    The question arises: well, dad, did your Poles help you? wink
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 15 August 2020 11: 01 New
                  +4
                  Quote: exalibor
                  how many times I ask but no one answers .... where did you see these Nazis with us?

                  "... Do you see the gopher? No? And he is ..." ©
                  Before the Maidan and in / in Ukraine, the Natsik were not seen. Or did not want to see.
                  Moreover, even now many are shouting that there are no Bandera or so-called Bandera members in Banderostan. natsbats. And the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is a peaceful dove who observes the rights of citizens of NazalEzhnoy.
                  GrygorYch, kissing on the teeth with Gunpowder, and then with Ze, gave an unspoken signal - they say local "patriots" in any guise do not spoil the picture.
                  There are ultra-radical nationalists in every country. And to deny the existence of the Natsiks in Belarus is stupid. They "shone" at all events. And in 2010, together with brothers from UNA-UNSO, they unanimously attacked the same OMON in Minsk, overturning their buses.
                  Today the tactics have changed. Only the pig flag flashes in the ranks of the protesters. The curators have grown wiser, since after 2014, radical nationalists began to be friends more often and stronger. As a result - a setup with 33 boobies who wanted to cut down the dough by the guards, but were under protection themselves ...
                  This was enough for Grygorich to "take" a false trail. And completely lose your scent and not see the shores.
                  And all this was just before the elections.
                  And then you yourself saw and see everything. AHL fell into a rage, all around he sees some saboteurs encroaching on his power.
                  But even then he was framed. The riot police began to habitually drive the Natsiks and provocateurs, but they somehow quietly disappeared among the angry citizens. And in the end, everyone and everything flew in ...
                  GrygorYch was outplayed in all respects. He is predictable as all collective farm chairmen. These were not the first protests timed to coincide with the elections. Now it worked.
                  What happened in Belarus should be expected in Russia for the next elections: to parliament, to the presidency.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 15 August 2020 16: 37 New
                    +4
                    What happened in Belarus should be expected in Russia for the next elections: to parliament, to the presidency.

                    They won't wait. We will not allow it. yes
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 15 August 2020 21: 45 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Alex777
                      They won't wait. We will not allow

                      I want to believe...
                      hi
                3. Alexga
                  Alexga 15 August 2020 11: 10 New
                  +4
                  Well, don't turn on the fool! Pay attention to the flags and chants. Does this remind you of anything? I see crowds of irresponsible creatures, mistakenly believing themselves to be human and reasonable, who do not talk about their goals, other than how to dump Luka. Look south!
            2. Rostislav
              Rostislav 15 August 2020 10: 53 New
              12
              I don't need the Internet, I've already come across these ... on the street.
              Morning, went for a run. Two shabby organisms are wandering, to me: "Man, help me, give me 50 kopecks. (About 15 rubles. RF), there is not enough for beer."
              He replied that he would give for bread, for vodka - I won't.
              "What, don't you want to help ?! We were here all night against the tyrant, we defended you from arbitrariness!"
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 15 August 2020 12: 11 New
                +2
                Quote: Rostislav
                I don't need the Internet, I'm with these ...

                And we need citizens of Belarus on the site who can clarify the coverage of the situation in Belarus.
                By the way, we in Kemerovo are full of such "bruises", which are 12 or 17 rubles are not enough for ... (further on the situation) ...
                1. Hyperion
                  Hyperion 15 August 2020 12: 24 New
                  0
                  Only they don't listen to us.
              2. Captivity
                Captivity 15 August 2020 12: 57 New
                -2
                Something has recently appeared on the site, then Khabarovsk, then Belarusians. And they complain about alcoholics.
            3. japs
              japs 15 August 2020 17: 07 New
              +5
              PEOPLE? In Brest, I see only snickering majors, students without brains and high school students playing "overthrowing the dictator", and drunks. Another part of the entrepreneurs, in cars, signaling "solidary chains". Last night as many as 60 people waving flowers on Moskovskaya ... People ...
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 15 August 2020 15: 57 New
            +2
            Quote: Insurgent

            Are they talking about the nation? Then what - "Ukraine Belarus on a mustache", "Glory to the nation-death to the enemies"?


            Already stirring ...

        2. Letun
          Letun 15 August 2020 09: 38 New
          10
          Quote: Dmitry10SPb
          This is how you write about the impostor against whom the nation opposed.

          I don’t understand, can you enlighten, this is what these protesters are against? No, it is understandable, against Lukashenka, but specifically against what? What does not suit the daddy in politics? Only it is possible to have less slogans imposed in the teeth and more specifics.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 51 New
            13
            Quote: Letun
            I don’t understand, can you enlighten, this is what these protesters are against? No, it is understandable, against Lukashenka, but specifically against what? What does not suit the daddy in politics?

            I was simply killed by the statement of a hard worker (?) From some factory in Minsk that they needed "production-savvy president"

            Why not a technologist, chief engineer, director, or prime minister (head of government), finally? belay
            1. FOBOSS
              FOBOSS 15 August 2020 10: 22 New
              +4
              This chukhnya was shown in 60 minutes (to create the image of a stupid hard worker), we do not need someone who is versed in production for this, a sufficiently competent minister who will be given a job, we just need a competent educated person.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 15 August 2020 10: 27 New
                +4
                Quote: FOBOSS
                This chukhnya was shown in 60 minutes (to create an image of a stupid hard worker)

                Wherever it is shown, it can no longer be crossed out, as well as "lace panties"Maidan Downessa ...
                Quote: FOBOSS
                we do not need someone who is versed in production for this reasonably competent minister who will be allowed to work, we just need a competent educated person.

                Interestingly fellow Why, then, Belarus did not feel bad in the economic sense up to the elections, if "Father's ministers" all fool ?
                1. FOBOSS
                  FOBOSS 15 August 2020 10: 59 New
                  +3
                  Ministers are normal, only he changes them like cowards, he needs not thinking ministers, but those who fulfill his whims. Rumasa removed (he offered sensible things - he did not accept anything (even the road tax did not take him away from the technical inspection)) now he buys oil in three-pronged way from Americans, Norwegians, etc. (the whole oilman freaks out about this)
            2. exalibor
              exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 39 New
              -4
              Quote: Insurgent
              Why not a technologist, chief engineer, director, or prime minister (head of government), finally

              because this one ruined almost everything he could reach. and upgraded ...
              1. japs
                japs 15 August 2020 17: 13 New
                0
                I will clarify your opinion, not he, but graduates of the Academy of Management under the President. Almost analogous to the HSE.
            3. Selenium
              Selenium 15 August 2020 10: 39 New
              -6
              I am not satisfied with the incompetence and rudeness of pensioner Lukashenka. He became old for work. So the people came out, against lies as a way of life.
              1. user1212
                user1212 15 August 2020 11: 00 New
                +2
                Quote: Selenium
                He became old for work. So the people came out, against lies as a way of life.

                And get war as a way of life
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 15 August 2020 11: 17 New
                  +3
                  Quote: user1212
                  And get war as a way of life

                  But they don't realize it No. ... The brain is disabled when they are in the Maidan.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 15 August 2020 16: 42 New
                    -1
                    So you will not sell your elephant. wink
                    Type arguments; the "eccentric" himself is ridiculous.
                    You answer people normally. yes
              2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 15 August 2020 11: 52 New
                +7
                Quote: Selenium
                So the people went out,

                Be precise: not the people, but part of the people; did not come out, but was rocked and taken out.
                Compare Tikhanovskaya and Karach and you will understand who is consciously leading to what.
          2. sleeve
            sleeve 15 August 2020 09: 52 New
            +1
            There will be no answers to this question.
            1. FOBOSS
              FOBOSS 15 August 2020 11: 01 New
              -3
              You've been answered, see above
          3. FOBOSS
            FOBOSS 15 August 2020 10: 18 New
            -2
            We oppose stagnation in the economy, our GDP is at the level of ten years ago, the national debt has grown from 2 to 20 billion, the mustachioed has fought with all neighbors, including the dews, wages have not grown for 6 years and no one has canceled price increases, unprofitable collective farms and enterprises are pouring in crazy money, there is no coronavirus because he does not see it (recently, however, he admitted that the crown was planted on him and who needs to be investigated). Constant rudeness and nonsense from the screens (it's a shame that the uneducated are in charge of the country), drags Kolya with him everywhere (it's enough to look at this shame), it is impossible to win in courts against the state even if you are 1000% right, on TV we won the crown and we have the best medicine, but yesterday he brought the child to the eye hospital and there they ask for "help with the hospital". WHAT IS IT????? Watch the telegram how they beat unarmed people in chains of solidarity,
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 15 August 2020 10: 30 New
              +8
              Quote: FOBOSS
              Yesterday I brought the child to the eye hospital and there they ask "help with the hospital". WHAT IS IT?????

              This is UKRAINE, the way I remember it until 2014 yes

              If you go crazy, you will get the outskirts of the post-Maidan sample in Belarus yes .
              1. FOBOSS
                FOBOSS 15 August 2020 10: 47 New
                0
                No, this has been with us for the last 10 years, in hospitals, in schools, in kindergartens. Our first two lines in budgeting are the security forces and the military.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 15 August 2020 11: 03 New
                  11
                  Quote: FOBOSS
                  No, this has been with us for the last 10 years, in hospitals, in schools, in kindergartens. Our first two lines in budgeting are the security forces and the military.

                  Yeah ... So the Arab League suited you for 16 years, and the last ten, when "Something went wrong"got you excited?

                  Trust the way you try. "dad Get!", you are a country / statehood P O T E R Y E T E (if it is censored).

                  So that you know, I am writing from the DPR, and in the course firsthandas it happens when the crowd, hiding behind seemingly respectable slogans, overthrows the government ...
                  1. Captivity
                    Captivity 15 August 2020 13: 02 New
                    -4
                    Like, yes, we know that Lukashenko rigged the results, but this is for your own good. Be patient and suffer.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 15 August 2020 16: 57 New
                      +1
                      I thought for 5 years before I understood the meaning of the phrase:
                      Rightness is a prize for "weirdos".

                      And then there is another, better known:
                      With good intentions, the road to Hell is paved.

                      As I understand my colleague Insurgent, he tries to convey the meaning of these two phrases as best he can.
                      And the fate of the AHL specifically is not the main thing today. hi
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 15 August 2020 17: 16 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex777
                        As I understand the colleague of Insurgent, he is trying to convey the meaning of these two phrases as best he can.

                        Not two phrases, but one and not as much as I can ,but as I wantleaving room for maneuver.
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 15 August 2020 17: 18 New
                        0
                        Not two phrases, but one, and not as I can, but as I want, leaving room for maneuver.

                        Below I have already written about your "as I want".
                        Think about it. Maybe what I told you, from time to time, will seem interesting?
                      3. Selenium
                        Selenium 15 August 2020 22: 50 New
                        -1
                        Are you colleagues at work? And I thought to grind it for life. Who lives happily, freely in Russia.
                      4. Alex777
                        Alex777 16 August 2020 13: 58 New
                        0
                        Site colleagues. bully
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 15 August 2020 16: 54 New
                +1
                Yeah ... So the Arab League suited you for 16 years in power, but the last ten, when "something went wrong", excited you?

                Personally, I, a Russian, have not been satisfied with the last few years in the AHL:
                1) a brake on the Union State,
                2) visa-free Belarus with the EU and the States (leading to already well-understood consequences),
                3) cancellation of the agreement on the base,
                4) arrest of Russian citizens,
                and much more.
                I would venture to suggest that this may not suit the Belarusians either. Let not in the same order and priority.
                For some reason, you ran into the fact that the fraternal peoples without AHL cannot live together in the Union State. And I think they can. hi
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 15 August 2020 16: 56 New
                  0
                  Quote: Alex777
                  For some reason, you ran into the fact that the fraternal peoples without AHL cannot live together in the Union State. And I think they can.

                  Will they be able to? With Tikhanovskaya as President of the Republic of Belarus? Exactly? Maybe you think?
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 15 August 2020 17: 02 New
                    0
                    And what does Tikhanovskaya have to do with it?
                    Nobody will seriously consider it.
                    Maybe you think?

                    This has been my habit for a long time. wink
                  2. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 15 August 2020 17: 06 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alex777
                    And what does Tikhanovskaya have to do with it?
                    Nobody will seriously consider it.

                    Well yes WHOM do you consider seriously as, at the beginning, a presidential candidate, and then the president of the Republic of Belarus?

                    Name who you are on the crossing horse Will you change Lukashenka?
                  3. Alex777
                    Alex777 15 August 2020 17: 09 New
                    0
                    Personally, I am quite satisfied with the nomination of VVP as the head of the Union State until 2024.
                    And then the GDP will go away. About which I have written many times.
                    Before that, having prepared a young and intelligent replacement.
                  4. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 15 August 2020 17: 11 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Personally, I am quite satisfied with the nomination of VVP as the head of the Union State until 2024.
                    And then the GDP will go away. About which I have written many times.
                    Before that, having prepared a young and intelligent replacement.

                    You are a dreamer ... Be a little more down to earth in Wishlist. Life is a bit different yes

                    If Putin were so omnipotent and free in his actions, then the Outskirts would have been forgotten long ago, and we would have been part of the Russian Federation, and there would have been order in Belarus ...
                  5. Alex777
                    Alex777 15 August 2020 17: 15 New
                    -1
                    Deep in your soul, you are a good person.
                    Die the desire to teach elders and life will improve. wink
                    People will start listening and hearing you.
                    They turn to you for advice anyway. But so far you are more likely to repulse with answers. Is it difficult to explain normally, in a human way?
                    If Putin were so omnipotent and free in his actions, then the Outskirts would have been forgotten long ago, and we would have been part of the Russian Federation, and there would have been order in Belarus ...

                    You can’t even imagine how powerful and free he is in his actions.
                    He also knows how to prioritize and act according to plan.
                    No fussing. This skill is very important.
                  6. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 15 August 2020 17: 28 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Deep in your soul, you are a good person.


                    Very, very deep, you don't even know how much yes

                    Quote: Alex777
                    Die the desire to teach elders and life will improve


                    I do not want to be measured by seniority, but the statement "senior-junior" is a controversial category and at the same time not defining yes
                    Teachings belay what ... In my answer to you, rather prevails irony over your concept of how the world of politics and international relations works.

                    Quote: Alex777
                    People will start listening and hearing you.


                    Believe me, attention to VO is not deprived, versatile, both positive and negative.

                    Quote: Alex777
                    They turn to you for advice anyway. But so far you are more likely to repulse with answers.

                    Sorry, but I'm not a doctor, not a philosopher to give advice ...
                    If they ask to clarify something, then if I can, I do not refuse.

                    BUT ADVISE No.
  2. Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 15 August 2020 11: 38 New
    +3
    Dima. the paid troll is immediately visible. If you want it like in Poland, no one bothers you to pick strawberries. How tired you are of the corrupt ones. want to roll out your Belarus under NATO?
  3. sleeve
    sleeve 15 August 2020 13: 52 New
    +1
    Well, okay. It means that I wanted to shoot myself in the leg. Well, to your health.
  • user1212
    user1212 15 August 2020 11: 12 New
    10
    Quote: FOBOSS
    We are against economic stagnation

    I might have agreed, but the only alternative is war. There is no other alternative and never will be. Never ALL people will support the transitional government. As soon as Lukashenka is removed from power, cities will revolt, while those who think that the president will figure it out himself and this does not concern them. It will not work to calm them down without the use of force and blood will be shed, and then everything follows the scenario of your and our neighbors. Weapon in hand and tra-ta-ta. Do you really think that a tank shooting in front of your window will solve your financial problems? Will artillery shelling your home make you richer?
    Where are the leaders of the protest sitting? Poland and the Baltics. Since when in these countries do they wish you well? This is how one must not be friends with his head in order to believe the enemies of his people. Only a ram can believe that he and the slaughterhouse workers have the same goal.
    1. Captivity
      Captivity 15 August 2020 13: 07 New
      -5
      Where should the leaders of the protest sit? In prison? In Russia?
      Can the protests be canceled altogether?
      At the same time, prohibit thinking, having an opinion and demanding something?
      How else to change Lukashenka?
      Or should it be tolerated in the name of friendship with Russia?
      1. sleeve
        sleeve 15 August 2020 13: 54 New
        +5
        Yes, health, guys. Burn down the house to deal with the cockroaches. "... there is no way out but revolution."
  • Alexga
    Alexga 15 August 2020 11: 14 New
    +9
    They ask you in Russian what you want to get as a result of everything, and again, Luke is tired of us, he is a boor!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 August 2020 11: 19 New
      +7
      Quote: AlexGa
      They ask you in Russian what you want to get as a result of everything, and again, Luke is tired of us, he is a boor!

      We've already seen this: "Yanukovych Must Leave!"

      No problem - hadbut not at this price yes
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 15 August 2020 11: 38 New
        +7
        In my and those around me, a fairly stable system of life has been created here, which suits me perfectly and I do not want to change it. This is the third attempt at the Maidan in Belarus, and I do not want to lose my state again, as we lost the USSR. Therefore, Lma voted for Lukashenka, even those who have always voted "against everyone." Someone in Belarus disagrees with the results, nothing, let's see who is right.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 15 August 2020 11: 56 New
          +6
          Quote: AlexGa
          Therefore, Lma voted for Lukashenka, even those who have always voted "against everyone." Someone in Belarus disagrees with the results, nothing, let's see who is right.

          Do not poke through peering, as we did in our time.

          We actually came to our senses when the Bandeva moved tanks at us ...
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 15 August 2020 12: 08 New
            +3
            Lukashenka will use force as soon as this brother gives a reason. Without any doubts. They have already understood this and are still conducting peaceful deeds. Luka said bluntly, you want to work, work, you want to go on strike, go on strike, but you will not receive your salary during this time.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 15 August 2020 12: 15 New
              +4
              Quote: AlexGa
              Luka said bluntly, you want to work, work, you want to go on strike, go on strike, but you will not receive your salary during this time.

              This is partly understandable, at least to me. But it does not fit into the understanding that weight (there are really a lot of them) people do not feel a threat to the country's existence, at least in economic terms ...

              Strikes, as a factor of pressure, are really something new in the technologies of "velvet revolutions" being rolled out in the post-Soviet space.
              I've never met anything like this No.
            2. Alexga
              Alexga 15 August 2020 12: 25 New
              +3
              But it does not fit into the understanding that the mass (there are really a lot) of people do not feel a threat to the country's existence, at least in economic terms ...

              To be honest, it doesn't fit in my head either. I have never met such a level of irresponsibility about myself in my rather long life. Maybe everyone wants to experience it in their own skin. After all, now they need the sale of their products, first of all, and the state can endure a month or even more. In the current conditions, work is underway at the warehouse, and at MAZ and MTZ.
      2. hound
        hound 15 August 2020 15: 58 New
        -5
        If you believe in 80%, then you have head problems. If you don’t believe and you drown for sin, then with a conscience.
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 15 August 2020 12: 02 New
    +4
    Quote: AlexGa
    They ask you in Russian what you want to get as a result of everything, and again, Luke is tired of us, he is a boor!

    They want to get an enema, it's not that offensive: the neighbors got it, but they didn't, Old Man interfered.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 15 August 2020 12: 10 New
      +1
      Exactly. The difference is that those from abroad had an enema, and Old Man organizes a local one for them!
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 15 August 2020 12: 20 New
        +3
        Here's one example.
        The driver is deprived of his license for giving a sound signal - "due to the creation of an emergency situation"


        As in other cities of Belarus, in Grodno people took to the streets with white flowers. At this time, dozens of cars were passing by, giving sound signals. Soon traffic police cars appeared on the avenue. The video caught the situation when the head of the traffic police of Grodno, Alexander Voyteshko, sentenced one of the motorists to deprivation of a high-quality vehicle for giving a signal as punishment.
        The recording shows how the employee introduced himself, asked if the driver understood the essence of the offense. The motorist replied that it was partially. The man agreed with the fact of the sound signal, but said, they say, "I do not agree with ...". Without waiting for the end of the phrase, Andrei Voyteshko remarked: “That is, you do not admit guilt in what you have done. In fact, I must warn you that not admitting guilt in a committed offense is a circumstance that aggravates your guilt. " “I admit it’s my fault that I signaled,” the stopped motorist managed to insert the phrase. The employee, despite the man's request to wait, continued: "Accordingly, I make the decision to revoke your driving license for all categories of vehicles for a period of one year."
        “The decision can be appealed within 10 days to a higher authority, to a court or protested through the prosecutor’s office,” added the head of the Grodno traffic police, not allowing the motorist to speak. - Do you understand the decision? I announced the resolution to you. Please, follow the traffic rules. Bon Voyage".
        “The video shows a real situation. Of course, this is true, - Ludmila Rakevich, inspector of the agitation and propaganda department of the State Traffic Inspectorate of the Grodno region, commented Onliner. - The actions were qualified as the creation of an emergency - according to Article 18.14.10 of the Administrative Code ”.
        For giving a sound signal, Article 18.14.2 of the Administrative Code - “Violation by the person driving a vehicle of the rules for the movement of vehicles in residential areas, the use of sound signals” (entails a warning or a fine of up to 3 b. C.) May be charged. And article 18.14.10 reads like this: "Failure to comply with the requirements of regulation signals, violation of the rules for the carriage of passengers or other traffic rules (actions provided for in parts 1-9 of this article), which led to the creation of an emergency." As a sanction - a fine of 5 to 20 bp. in. with deprivation of the right to drive a vehicle for up to two years or without deprivation. The note to the article states that the creation of an emergency is understood as actions that forced other road users to change the speed, direction of movement or take other measures to ensure their own safety or the safety of others.
        “The man's resolution was all written down. It's not just the way it was composed, - added the representative of the traffic police. - The driver partially agreed with the offense. Recognized moments. Someone may not react to the sound signal, while another young driver may just get scared and change the trajectory. "
        “In this particular case, the signal caused an emergency,” said Lyudmila Rakevich. "That is, one of the neighbors downstream changed the speed or direction of movement."
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 15 August 2020 12: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: AlexGa
          Here's one example.
          The driver is deprived of his license for giving a sound signal - "due to the creation of an emergency situation"


          As in other cities of Belarus, in Grodno people took to the streets with white flowers. At this time, dozens of cars were passing by, giving sound signals. Soon traffic police cars appeared on the avenue. The video caught the situation when the head of the traffic police of Grodno, Alexander Voyteshko, sentenced one of the motorists to deprivation of a high-quality vehicle for giving a signal as punishment.

          A somewhat different situation, but I remember how even before the war, the traffic police inspector simply, without talking or unnecessary explanations, tore the plastic license (as soon as he had enough strength !!! belay ) to the driver, for trying to overtake an organized column of buses carrying WWII veterans to the Saur Mogila memorial ...
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 15 August 2020 12: 49 New
            +1
            as soon as I had enough strength !!! belay

            When necessary, in front of a man in uniform, there is no impossible.
      2. Blackvoid
        Blackvoid 15 August 2020 15: 12 New
        -1
        The reactionaries will roll out the protest into a thin pancake, and rightly so!
  • japs
    japs 15 August 2020 17: 21 New
    +2
    When you mentioned Telegram, I understood everything ...
    "You watch the telegrams how they beat unarmed people in chains of solidarity," - FOBOSS.
    Why do I need telegrams, the day before yesterday I saw all of them 200-300 "onizmateri" in front of the Central Department Store in Brest, and yesterday on Moskovskaya from 120 (at 14.00) to 40 "mothers" at about 20.00.
    Among them I noticed even a familiar alcoholic from a neighboring house)). But nobody beat them.
  • Aibolit
    Aibolit 15 August 2020 10: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Letun
    I don’t understand, can you enlighten, this is what these protesters are against?

    and what to understand?
    specifically, now the protesters are against the rigging of the presidential elections in Belarus.
    Quote: Letun
    What does not suit the daddy in politics?

    "dad" - disgusting. Fatherlessness, is that all?
    if Lukoshenko was satisfied with politics, he would simply win the elections. And he is engaged in machinations of the second skrok already. Now they are protesting against him, not for "want."
    There is an opinion (widespread in Russia) that they want
    Belarusians though clean European toilets and wash dishes. The gifted will work as plumbers in Germany.

    So what?
    They are adults, let them decide for themselves.
    Even the desire to "clean toilets in Europe" is legal
    Article 30. Citizens of the Republic of Belarus have the right to move freely and choose their place of residence within the Republic of Belarus, leave it and return without hindrance.


    Article 33. Everyone is guaranteed freedom of opinion, belief and their free expression.

    No one can be forced to express their beliefs or to renounce them.

    Monopolization of the media by the state, public associations or individual citizens, as well as censorship, are not allowed.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 15 August 2020 12: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: Aibolit
      They are adults, let them decide for themselves.
      Even the desire to "clean toilets in Europe" is legal

      Russia has no interest in degrading its neighbor.
      Anyone. All the more an ally.
      1. Aibolit
        Aibolit 15 August 2020 13: 37 New
        -4
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Russia has no interest in degrading its neighbor.

        -Whose degradation (not a neighbor) is Russia interested in?
        -Why degradation?
        "cleaning toilets" is a meme

        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        An ally - even more so.

        ally they are so-so. Take a trip to Brest, let's say, you will be shocked ..
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 15 August 2020 17: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Aibolit
          -Why degradation?
          "cleaning toilets" is a meme

          Because Belarus is directed to the Ukrainian rails, and where they lead already only the blind cannot see. Killed shipbuilding and aviation industry of Ukraine - the degradation of the country.
          The dismissed developers and specialists, even though they found work on a profile in other countries, even though they found their niche in washing toilets and sewing panties, also illustrate the country's degradation.
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  • Hyperion
    Hyperion 15 August 2020 12: 27 New
    -4
    Any private office that begins to work with a profit is squeezed out by the close ones. I work in this.
    1. user1212
      user1212 15 August 2020 12: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Hyperion
      Any private office that starts working with a profit is squeezed out by the close ones.

      Is this how TikTok minke whales want to squeeze out of China or "is this different"? Or maybe this is how Huawei was left without an OS due to Google's monopoly position? How is Chinese 5G strangled? Or maybe all this is also the "invisible hand of the market"?
      1. japs
        japs 15 August 2020 17: 33 New
        +1
        Hyperion - And which of Lukashenka's relatives, specifically, does your company belong to?
    2. Blackvoid
      Blackvoid 15 August 2020 22: 35 New
      0
      Proof to the studio, otherwise you are a balabol and a provocateur
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 15 August 2020 12: 59 New
    0
    I don’t understand, can you enlighten, this is what these protesters are against? No, it is understandable, against Lukashenka, but specifically against what? What does not suit the daddy in politics? Only it is possible to have less slogans imposed in the teeth and more specifics.

    Have mercy, they have no idea why they are doing this. 90% of "protesters" are just a herd of sheep, half drunk, on drugs. For 100 bucks a day, stand up and shout under the shaf, where else is such a freebie? The curators give interviews to the cameras, the crowd is not allowed to go there, they will not put two words together. What are the requirements there. A bit of history ..
  • Campanella
    Campanella 15 August 2020 09: 39 New
    +1
    Nation? Those who are ready to freeze their ears to spite the old man?
    Emotions carefully cultivated by Western curators to call the emotions a free choice?
    Father's only fault, he alone overestimated his capabilities and underestimated the cunning and consistency of the West.
    It was necessary to merge with Russia earlier ...
    Or spread your legs just in front of the west!
    1. Selenium
      Selenium 15 August 2020 12: 04 New
      -4
      And here the west, has served his term as president, go rest. Don't overestimate your capabilities, I agree.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 15 August 2020 14: 46 New
        +4
        To achieve normal turnover, it is necessary to go through a certain path of formation of state institutions in the chosen social system.
        And now they are breaking, something that has not yet been debugged and will "adapt" the people to the "best" system of all times and peoples of international imperialism with all that it implies.
        It will immediately become clear that most of the enterprises of Belarus are non-competitors and unprofitable and hard workers will be asked to go out with little things ...
        1. japs
          japs 15 August 2020 17: 42 New
          +1
          Campanella - But there are also competitive enterprises, and quite a lot, agriculture has not been lost either.
          But the West does not need all of them, from the word at all. The narrow-minded "protestors" do not understand all this.
          And so, yes, most of the young and able-bodied will be left without work.
          The fate of the labor force in Geyrop is prepared for them. Example? Nearby - 404, bolts, etc.
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 16 August 2020 04: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Selenium
        And then the west, has served his term as president, go rest.

        Tell that to Frau Merkel ....
        And why, after the end of his term, he cannot exercise his constitutional right to nominate his candidacy for president ...
        Belatedly, you have any reaction to what is happening when the Republic of Belarus was transformed from a parliamentary republic into a presidential one. Where were you?
        Don't overestimate your capabilities, I agree.

        Those. will you evaluate the strength of the Old Man, not the Old Man? I think any citizen of the Republic of Belarus (including the Old Man) will somehow decide on his own ...
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    1. Campanella
      Campanella 15 August 2020 16: 24 New
      +2
      Do you have that head with a hole? Does it say "educational"?
      If the people are sick, then you can even give a shit about their opinion, this is the opinion of a patient who is not aware of it! It is over to treat him, and not to follow his nonsense, not democratically, but it is necessary.
      Moreover, the infection came from the west! Ukraine is writhing, it was not immediately treated, and now it will hurt until the immune system develops.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 16 August 2020 04: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Jagdhund
      You and others like you would walk through the forest with your shoulder. If you think that you can give a shit about the opinion of a whole people by drawing 80%, then on *** such "brothers".

      Maybe they would have gone ... but the fact is that RB is the largest Borrower of the Russian Federation, and we are not without interest in the fate of our debtor ... the people of the Republic of Belarus did not ask the opinion of the Russian Federation about their ruler (whom he chose) when receiving loans from the Russian Federation , grabbed the dough and that's it ...
  • halpat
    halpat 15 August 2020 08: 24 New
    +9
    They now have to organize an action on the Internet. They will fill 3-5 million likes there ... and then, shaking with likes, they recognize the Lithuanian inmate as president. Option so-so, but you can drive the wave.
    Lithuania recognizes first :)) and then, as it goes ...
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 15 August 2020 08: 25 New
      +6
      Quote: Halpat
      recognize the Lithuanian inmate as president.

      Already!
      Recognized.
      New Guaidó.
      1. halpat
        halpat 15 August 2020 08: 36 New
        +7
        Quote: Victor_B
        Quote: Halpat
        recognize the Lithuanian inmate as president.

        Already!
        Recognized.
        New Guaidó.

        How was it recognized? Who! What country? Officially?
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 15 August 2020 08: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Halpat
          Who! What country? Officially?

          Like who?
          World community!
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 15 August 2020 08: 41 New
            +3
            Anglo-Saxons something with vassals.
          2. halpat
            halpat 15 August 2020 09: 04 New
            +7
            Quote: Victor_B
            Quote: Halpat
            Who! What country? Officially?

            Like who?
            World community!

            laughing
            I thought ...
            laughing
            but it turns out there "the entire world community ...", unkillable !!! liberda's argument.
            only in 100 out of 100 cases it turns out that it doesn’t even smell like “the whole world”, but a few dozen “very offended” on a good salary from Uncle Sam + trained groups of Nazis (also not free at all) and 2-3 thousand of those who “For any kipish other than a hunger strike” (that is, cannon fodder or potential “sacred victims”).

            I am surprised only by one thing - again Russia "slept through" everything. What is it?
            Willful sabotage or negligence of those responsible ...
            Do they exist at all, these responsible?
            1. exalibor
              exalibor 15 August 2020 09: 49 New
              -3
              Quote: Halpat
              trained groups of Natsiks (also not free at all) and 2-3 thousand of those who are “for any kipish except hunger strike” (that is, cannon fodder or potential “sacred victims”).

              that's where you see them there ??? Show me at least in the photo ... it's very interesting ... the riot police showed a video of the detainees ... one had a tattoo in the form of a fascist eagle, that is, a January Natsik ... but damn it, and then he turned out to be a bummer from Russia to the polls ... and even with a passport was ...
              1. halpat
                halpat 15 August 2020 12: 25 New
                +4
                Quote: exalibor
                Quote: Halpat
                trained groups of Natsiks (also not free at all) and 2-3 thousand of those who are “for any kipish except hunger strike” (that is, cannon fodder or potential “sacred victims”).

                that's where you see them there ??? Show me at least in the photo ... it's very interesting ... the riot police showed a video of the detainees ... one had a tattoo in the form of a fascist eagle, that is, a January Natsik ... but damn it, and then he turned out to be a bummer from Russia to the polls ... and even with a passport was ...

                Do you want to march? Lined up like a pig? Before that, and on the Kiev Maidan, it came only in the final stage.
                And so, watch the video carefully. The task at this stage was to amicably “buy” the riot policeman and go to the back rows or to another place, as unnoticed / unidentified as possible and without losses.
                And those who get under the arm of the riot police, including many - ordinary onlookers who want only hype on the Internet - to post their video and then waste away over the likes, get reciprocal pisses. And off we go.
                What else is there ... nowadays there are :) hookers, roofers, stalkers of any kind ... they threw everything for a while and there. Movement, fun ... ah-ah ...
                Well, of course, Western curators diligently cleanse / edit their provocateurs from the videos, out of harm's way. The work goes on, 24/7, the "Syrian" white helmets nervously smoke on the sidelines, as they say.
              2. Campanella
                Campanella 15 August 2020 14: 52 New
                +5
                This is the next phase, while a peace man with white ribbons, and then the Nazis and other criminal shobla are recruited.
                By the way, for the crime, after the power ones merge, the sweet time of victories will begin. Then the victims of dementia and liberds will understand what they bought, but they will not be able to turn the minced meat back and the bloody years will run in succession ...
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 August 2020 08: 44 New
      10
      Quote: Halpat
      They now have to organize an action on the Internet.

      This, anyway yes Do not even doubt No. ... Informational pressure will only increase.
      Quote: Halpat
      then, shaking with likes, they recognize the Lithuanian prisoner as president. Option so-so, but you can drive the wave.
      Lithuania recognizes first :)) and then, as it goes ...


      Quote: Victor_B
      New Guaidó.

      In Venezuela, they went further and got what they did not expect ...

      Captured by the Venezuelan secret services during the failed coup in Venezuela, American mercenaries (US citizens) Silvercorp PMC Luke Denman and Ayran Berry received 20 years in prison for terrorism, conspiracy and arms trafficking.

      1. halpat
        halpat 15 August 2020 09: 29 New
        +7
        With Guaidó it was cooler, there is part of the Venezuelan parliament and all that.
        And it was recognized by Germany, France ... if I am not mistaken.
        In general, the new technology is good for countries that do not correspond to the ideas of the Washington regional committee about the world order: Whoever gets more likes on the Internet is the president. Super!!
        Who has the most likes in Russia? Olga Buzova? Why not the president?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 33 New
          12
          Quote: Halpat
          Who has the most likes in Russia? Olga Buzova? Why not the president?

          What is the name of the robot program for "winding up" likes wink ?

          Resolved yes ! I will get a passport of the Russian Federation and in 2024 I am going to the presidency ...
          But what is there to the presidency of the Russian Federation, with a foreign passport I go to the President of the World! (Ostap suffered)
      2. Alexga
        Alexga 15 August 2020 11: 18 New
        +2
        Good morning! I would like to ask you a question. How wrong I am when I say that in Belarus they want to turn the Ukrainian version, with some amendments for the local flavor. You have already experienced this for yourself. Tell the local concerned how this is done.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 15 August 2020 11: 38 New
          +6
          Quote: AlexGa
          Good morning! I would like to ask you a question. How wrong I am when I say that in Belarus they want to turn the Ukrainian version, with some amendments for the local flavor. You have already experienced this for yourself. Tell the local concerned how this is done.

          Tell the local preoccupied lol , how it's done. - either a typo or a comma was missed (from which the meaning of what was written changes dramatically lol wink ).

          And what is there to tell?
          Do they have chtol of their own eyes, ears, brains, to see, hear and perceive for themselves?

          One thing is clear that for now "They are going the right way" yes .

          1. Alexga
            Alexga 15 August 2020 11: 42 New
            +2
            Yes, I messed up with a comma, I write from the phone, and it somehow by itself, but you understood the question correctly. It is clear that the plot is obvious, but the massive blindness is striking.
            1. Blackvoid
              Blackvoid 15 August 2020 15: 19 New
              +2
              this is perceptual blindness
              emotions are powerful
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 15 August 2020 17: 11 New
                +1
                Quote: BlackVoid
                this is perceptual blindness
                emotions are powerful

                And backed up by 100 bucks ... wassat
                1. Blackvoid
                  Blackvoid 15 August 2020 22: 06 New
                  +1
                  that there are paid professional professional revaluationists is a fact
                  everything else is a protest by the Shirnamass duped by fakes and pro-Western propaganda
                  DBLBLT
                  "for all good against this bad"
                  and man is a creature controlled through mosch, here the main thing is to bring to emotions and "it's in the bag"
    3. Victorio
      Victorio 15 August 2020 10: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Halpat
      They now have to organize an action on the Internet. They will fill 3-5 million likes there ... and then, shaking with likes, they recognize the Lithuanian inmate as president. Option so-so, but you can drive the wave.
      Lithuania recognizes first :)) and then, as it goes ...

      ===
      it seems that they will stake on sanctions, financing of anti-government movements, information war. protests / strikes / discontent of the "majority" of the Belarusian people will be encouraged and covered. and there you will see, against the background of a worsening economic situation, other strata of society will begin to adjoin. Lukashenka will certainly attract someone from the opposition, release, negotiate, yield. however, the West has already bit the bit, and the radicals have felt impunity and support. in general, the carrots are hung, it remains to wait and find out how greedy the Belarusians are, and how they differ from the Ukrainians
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 15 August 2020 08: 41 New
    13
    Quote: Victor_B
    Well, they would go

    That's right!
    The West is now in a difficult position. To harm Belarus with serious sanctions - to push it away from you. Introducing personal ones against Luke and the "group of comrades" is not effective. They thought to lure Luka and throw it later, but here such garbage ... wink
    We need to hurry up, in the sense that the change of Lukashenka is ripe, and replace him not with a random woman, chosen by Western curators, a woman, a wife, you see a blogger, fellow or a local clown like Ze, but a pro-Russian authoritative person. Moreover, the Belarusians are not so blind and half-witted, they see examples of Ukraine, Moldavia and others, benefited by Western democracies, who began to live mainly at the expense of their workers. And military conflicts are accompanied by such benefits.
    Judging by the media and "reports" of relatives and acquaintances of Belarusians, the protest is personified precisely against the slightly possessed Luka, and not against Russia. Unlike Ukraine, for example.
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 August 2020 08: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Alekseev
      Judging by the media and "reports" of relatives and acquaintances of Belarusians, the protest is personified precisely against the slightly possessed Luka, and not against Russia.

      But he in every possible way "drives the wave" to Russia ... And I am very glad that at least 33 guys gave.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 15 August 2020 09: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: Alekseev
      but for a pro-Russian authoritative person

      The problem is that no "pro-Russian authoritative person" can even theoretically claim power. No, well, you can, of course, push tanks to the border, and "Give me Berlin", that is Minsk. There are no other options. And this one is very fraught.
      And of those who can be admitted to power ... Of exactly two persons ... In general, there is no one to choose. Russia has no one to choose, I will clarify. And, by the way, Lukash has now taken a demonstratively anti-Russian position. By throwing misinformation out of Kiev. There is an impression that it shows Europe - I will not leave, but I am ready to bark at Russia, and bite too, just leave it in power.
      And Russia ... And Russia in classic zugzwang. But it wasn't figs for a quarter of a century to lick with Lukashenka. When 15 years ago it was clear as a perpendicular that this character is not like a neighbor, but also mom and dad will exchange for power.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 August 2020 09: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        The problem is that no "pro-Russian authoritative person" can even theoretically claim to be

        Old Man has a lot of things on the bigwigs and society, in general, is tuned in to dependency, like Russia owes and owes them, already for just loyalty! This is not so easy to change, but to continue giving gifts / handouts to them, even worse, they will be cut off at the end !!!
        We have already done this more than once.
        There is no simple, reliable way out .... work to correct the situation for many years !!! or like a butt on the head ... a little predictable option, but everything quickly becomes clear!
        1. Selenium
          Selenium 15 August 2020 10: 45 New
          -3
          It was something that was promised to Lou, the population has long been buying Moscow energy resources at world prices. Look for the difference in the pockets of your effective managers.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Russia in classic zugzwang. But it wasn't figs for a quarter of a century to lick with Lukashenka. When 15 years ago it was clear as a perpendicular that this character is not like a neighbor, but also mom and dad will exchange for power.

        We have to work with those who are ... Alas, so far in Belarus there is no such force or leader, except for the Arab League, on which Russia can rely ...

        And the "Varangian" will not be accepted there.
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 15 August 2020 10: 37 New
          +4
          Quote: Insurgent
          We have to work with those who are ... Alas, so far in Belarus there is no such force or leader, except for the Arab League, on which Russia can rely ...

          1. You can rely on Lukashenka in much the same way as on air. Is this not enough for you? 200 fighters, for the organization of riots, Russia sent against the dad. Yeah. Miller got money from his personal wallet to finance the new Maidan. This is not broadcasting from Kiev. This lukash and his hand-held KGB are being told to Belarusians. What nafig support? The slightest threat and Lukash instantly becomes an outspoken Russophobe. In fact, for Lukashenka, Russia is not an ally, not a friendly state, but just a cash cow.
          2. By itself, from dampness, only mold starts. And on the acquisition of friends, allies, or at least a lobby, you need to work for years and decades. Stubbornly. How long did the United States work in Ukraine? Quarter of century. How much does China spud Central Asia? 30 years. And if you sit on the priest evenly, and contemplate your navel, then you can only achieve Buddhist enlightenment, but not diplomatic success. Just give a couple of examples, where and how Russia works, well, at least in neighboring countries, raising elites interested in friendship with it, or propagandizing the common people? Vooot. We are now seeing the result of such an "active" position. 30 years of "partnership" with Belarus, and there is no one to cooperate with. Injected finances a couple of orders of magnitude more than the United States invested in the Maidan, and the exhaust is not even zero, purely negative. "Soyuznik" suddenly turns out to be a Russophobe, and begins to compete with Kiev in the amount of slop poured on Russia.
      3. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 15 August 2020 10: 15 New
        -5
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        No, well, you can, of course, push tanks to the border, and "Give me Berlin", that is Minsk. There are no other options. And this one is very fraught.

        What is fraught with? Flowers will be greeted.
        And they can put that clown Grudinin in prison as president - also a father from the state farm, with a mustache. For this he will be forever loyal to Putin.
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: Alekseev
      Judging by the media and "reports" of relatives and acquaintances of Belarusians, the protest is personified precisely against the slightly possessed Luka, and not against Russia. Unlike Ukraine, for example.

      But you must agree that the situation is not stable, and they will definitely try to rock the boat by redirecting the protest against Russia ...
      1. exalibor
        exalibor 15 August 2020 09: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Insurgent
        But you must agree that the situation is not stable, and they will definitely try to rock the boat by redirecting the protest against Russia ...

        of course they can ... but after all, Russia is in the same position ... let it push the boat in the direction it needs ...
    4. Hyperion
      Hyperion 15 August 2020 12: 30 New
      -3
      Most are in favor of leaving it as it is, but without the gypsy.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 15 August 2020 15: 17 New
        +4
        Without the gypsy it will be different, is it not clear? You don't have it written down what and how it should be and in what coordinate system do you live?
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 15 August 2020 08: 42 New
    +1
    The sanctions were already in place until 2016, so far nothing new.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 August 2020 10: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Deniska999
      The sanctions were already in place until 2016, so far nothing new.

      There will be "new", "sectoral", worked out in the Russian Federation. That is why Father and you need to stay closer to the" big brother ", and not try to play the card of contradictions.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 15 August 2020 08: 50 New
    +5
    Quote: Victor_B
    The European Union does not recognize the results of the elections in Belarus, their results are falsified.
    Well, they would have walked in the forest!
    Look, let France advise the "yellow vests" to transfer power.

    Well, what about the forest? Lukashenka complained that Russia was not behaving very well, that it was necessary to make other friends, and then suddenly potential friends betrayed this.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: 1976AG
      Lukashenka complained that Russia was not behaving very well, that it was necessary to make other friends, and then suddenly potential friends gave it away.

      Cold shower refreshing thoughts yes
      It remains to wait for But Father to place the right accents in the one with whom he is on his way.
      Or help him make a choice, for the good of But Father (so that he does not end up like Gaddafi or Saddam) and the Belarusian people.
  • snucerist
    snucerist 15 August 2020 08: 58 New
    -4
    Yes, they might go. The forest.
    But will it make it easier for dad?
    What should a president do, whose legitimacy is not recognized by the leading European countries and the United States? Essentially an impostor? Usurper?
    Well, Russia will help. Recognizes. Will caress. Will throw something again.
    But on the world map, besides Belarus, Russia and China (which, by the way, has its own special interest in Belarus), there are other countries. And there are many of them. And with them it is necessary to somehow maintain relations. Political, economic, cultural. And this must be done legally, in the status of a president elected by his people.
    And here's the question: what to do if this legal status does not exist? If neither your own people nor the leading world powers recognize you as president?
    What's the use of the fact that you declared yourself president?
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 15 August 2020 09: 16 New
      +7
      Quote: snucerist
      Yes, they might go. The forest.
      But will it make it easier for dad?
      What should a president do, whose legitimacy is not recognized by the leading European countries and the United States? Essentially an impostor? Usurper?
      Well, Russia will help. Recognizes. Will caress. Will throw something again.
      But on the world map, besides Belarus, Russia and China (which, by the way, has its own special interest in Belarus), there are other countries. And there are many of them. And with them it is necessary to somehow maintain relations. Political, economic, cultural. And this must be done legally, in the status of a president elected by his people.
      And here's the question: what to do if this legal status does not exist? If neither your own people nor the leading world powers recognize you as president?
      What's the use of the fact that you declared yourself president?

      You have iron logic. And if they do not recognize Putin as the legitimate president, how will we live then? The more we succumb to the West, the more they will become impudent.
      1. snucerist
        snucerist 15 August 2020 09: 27 New
        -2
        If Putin is not recognized as president tomorrow, he will find himself in the same situation as Lukashenka today. What is incomprehensible here?
        You just need to turn on your head sometimes. And do not paint yourself 83% while the people of Belarus stood in kilometer-long lines to express support for Lukashenka's opponents.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 15 August 2020 09: 39 New
          +5
          Quote: snucerist
          If Putin is not recognized as president tomorrow, he will find himself in the same situation as Lukashenka today. What is incomprehensible here?
          You just need to turn on your head sometimes. And do not paint yourself 83% while the people of Belarus stood in kilometer-long lines to express support for Lukashenka's opponents.

          As you will not understand, the point is not how many percent is drawn, but that it is necessary to transfer power to a pro-Western candidate. And these tales about interest are only to bring people out into the street, because now they will not be able to announce their true goals of mass rallies.
          1. snucerist
            snucerist 15 August 2020 09: 49 New
            -2
            Um ...
            Was Viktor Babariko a pro-Western candidate ??? Or clingy?
            Didn't know ... Thank you for enlightening.
            But for some reason, Mr. Lukashenko claims that Babariko and Tsepkalo are Russian protégés and are financed by Russia. His direct speech - "More than funded. There, huge amounts of money have been pumped through Gazprom."
            Are you confusing anything?
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 15 August 2020 11: 18 New
              +5
              Quote: snucerist
              Um ...
              Was Viktor Babariko a pro-Western candidate ??? Or clingy?
              Didn't know ... Thank you for enlightening.
              But for some reason, Mr. Lukashenko claims that Babariko and Tsepkalo are Russian protégés and are financed by Russia. His direct speech - "More than funded. There, huge amounts of money have been pumped through Gazprom."
              Are you confusing anything?

              You are confusing it. Tikhanovskaya shouts about victory in the elections. Why didn't you remember her now? All were listed, but she is not. Specially? It is she who screams the most, it is she who is actively supported by the West. Answer why they support it.
              1. Region68
                Region68 15 August 2020 17: 38 New
                -3
                And where did Tikhanovskaya come from? After Luka had put everyone in jail, she appeared ..
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 15 August 2020 17: 49 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Region68
                  And where did Tikhanovskaya come from? After Luka had put everyone in jail, she appeared ..

                  And for some reason it received strong support from the West. So think about where these candidates come from.
                  1. Region68
                    Region68 15 August 2020 21: 10 New
                    -3
                    Yes? Examples?
                    1. user1212
                      user1212 16 August 2020 05: 20 New
                      0
                      Quote: Region68
                      Yes? Examples?

                      No problem. Who arranged the removal of the family and the escape of Tikhanovskaya? Charter 97 (analogous to the right sector, adjusted for the local mentality) with a central office ... in Warsaw. The main mouthpiece of the protest NEXTA sits in ... Warsaw and is funded by Polish money. Who decided to act as the guarantor of the Lukashenka agreement and protest? Warsaw ... Kind Nazi Poland decided to help the Belarusian brothers, yeah lol
            2. Hyperion
              Hyperion 15 August 2020 12: 33 New
              -3
              Most of them have blinders on their eyes.
              1. A.TOR
                A.TOR 15 August 2020 15: 56 New
                -3
                There are no blinders here, everything is worse here.
                One must not at all understand the reasons for people's dissatisfaction in order to talk about "creating an effective economy" by Lukashenka - he did not create anything at all! He mothballed the remains of what was created during the Soviet era on the territory of Belarus.
                After all, people are not "rams" or "sheep", they see everything, they visit neighboring countries. And Belarus, by the way, is bordering on 5 countries, they can compare.
                Yes, one of these countries is Ukraine, but if a person is not completely stupid, then he understands that she was artificially driven into the state that it is.
                If we compare GDP per capita, then in Belarus there is less than $ 20 thousand - even in Latvia more than $ 32 thousand! In Lithuania, more than $ 38 thousand!
                The Belarusian economy is dying, and not very slowly. There are quite decent calculations on this topic made by the Swedes - if "Lukashenka's country" increases its GDP by 2% a year, it will catch up with Poland in terms of living standards in about 200 years, or a little more.
                By the way, it is interesting to compare the results of "Lukashenko's state capitalism" with the same Lithuania:
                there is such a parameter - the added annual value per capita created in the manufacturing industry. In Lithuania - $ 3710, in Belarus - $ 1345. And what does it mean? And the fact that in Lithuania the industry is 2,7 times more efficient.
                Ordinary people may not understand this, but they see the results.

                You can, of course, chat about what, they say, "Belarus is doing what BELAZ does" - but in reality, it is worth opening the market a little - and all these "miracle factories" will instantly go bankrupt. The same China, give it free rein, will instantly sweep any Belarusian products from any market.
                Lukashenka, having direct access to Europe, instead of forcibly modernizing the country, led it into a monstrous abyss of degradation, this is simply not noticeable behind the facade.

                And no unification with Russia will help Belarus. Like Russia
                1. user1212
                  user1212 16 August 2020 05: 10 New
                  0
                  Quote: A.TOR
                  He mothballed the remains of what was created during the Soviet era on the territory of Belarus

                  That's for sure. No homeless people, no bills for appendicitis in the cost of two cars, the communal apartment is tolerable, and much more. Want European prices for water and gas? Will be, everything will be
                  Quote: A.TOR
                  Yes, one of these countries is Ukraine, but if a person is not completely stupid, then he understands that she was artificially driven into the state that it is.

                  That's just why many people, including you, do not understand why this happened. Do you really think that someone influential and kind decided to spend YOUR money to make YOUR life better and easier? Or do you think that this whole booth is not funded? As small children, by God. An example before your eyes, as they say, find 10 differences. Right Sector - Charter 97
                  Quote: A.TOR
                  Belarusian economy is dying, and not very slowly

                  Compare the rate of dying with ukrin?
                  Now understand and remember. THE ONLY country to have a better life after street protests is CHINA, which rolled out protests in tanks
                  There is no other example in history when a coup d'etat improved the lives of ordinary people, and even the colored protests generally have a so-so reputation for results
            3. japs
              japs 15 August 2020 18: 17 New
              +1
              Snooker player, don't you read the press? Tsepkalo is already actively cooperating with Western gentlemen on the overthrow of Lukashenka and bringing him to trial in The Hague. Where do you see pro-Russianness?
              If he were, then he would “fight” from Moscow.
    2. exalibor
      exalibor 15 August 2020 09: 55 New
      -3
      Quote: snucerist
      What's the use of the fact that you declared yourself president?

      damn well, why didn’t I think about it before ... after all, and so it is possible)))) that's all .... I'm a PRESIDENT !!!)))
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 15 August 2020 11: 20 New
        +4
        It is not enough to declare, you need to convince that you are against Russia, then you will get the loot and support from the media.
    3. Campanella
      Campanella 15 August 2020 15: 21 New
      0
      And what does Belarus have from the west?
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 August 2020 09: 12 New
    +5
    Since Belarus is not a country from the European Union (the so-called "member belay eurozodnyak), they can safely spit on the EU sanctions from the high bell tower!
    1. snucerist
      snucerist 15 August 2020 09: 40 New
      0
      How to say ...
      Do not forget that the European Union is the second most important market for Belarusian exports.
      In 2019, the trade between Belarus and the EU reached 15,7 billion US dollars.
      And the EU's share in the total export volume of Belarus was 25,5%.
      Besides, there is also such a thing as import. There are things that are not done in Belarus. Or in Russia. Or in Tajikistan. And they are made mainly in the West. And these things have to be bought. While the West allows it.
      But it may not be allowed.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 15 August 2020 09: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Victor_B
    Look, let France advise the "yellow vests" to transfer power.

    And since when have European countries have anything to do with the elections in Belarus, the Russian Federation or any other country, even Zimababwe? When Trump was elected, the mattresses squealed that Russia had intervened in the expression of the will of the people of the United States ... And then why, not interference in the internal affairs of another state, no?
    An old, worn-out record of double standards.
    Beware of the "little green men" traveling from Russia to Belarus

    After the Crimea, as European politicians or mattress people smoke NOT tobacco, they all see "little green men", UFOs, Yeti and Chupacabra.
  • vik669
    vik669 15 August 2020 09: 47 New
    +1
    All "FOR", and "BABA-YAGA Against" so that the European Union is not alone in its already traditional ... and even if they are sent "to catch butterflies at the farm" they will not understand because of the absence ...!
  • Vend
    Vend 17 August 2020 10: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Victor_B
    The European Union does not recognize the results of the elections in Belarus, their results are falsified.
    Well, they would have walked in the forest!
    Look, let France advise the "yellow vests" to transfer power.

    You won't scare these Belarus, and Russia is nearby
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 15 August 2020 08: 16 New
    +3
    They are strange. Let them ban the import of seafood to Belarus, so that Belarusian trout and oysters would stop entering Russia.
  • svp67
    svp67 15 August 2020 08: 18 New
    +6
    Well, what did Pan Lukashenko help you, your Poles ...? Receive and sign
    In addition, Graham warned Donald Trump that Russian "green men" could appear in Belarus.
    Beware of the "little green men" traveling from Russia to Belarus to stop fake election protests
    - he added.
    Lukashenka is constantly looking for them and "finds" them without you ...


    Here he found traces of "Belgazprombank" and Babariko's supporters who had spread the "network"

    And here, in general, is already a classic, accused of Russia. Shariy gave interesting precedents
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 August 2020 08: 22 New
      -14
      At such moments, it becomes clear who is who. Here is another supporter of Navalny.
      1. svp67
        svp67 15 August 2020 08: 26 New
        +7
        Quote: Gardamir
        At such moments, it becomes clear who is who. Here is another supporter of Navalny.

        Yes, your "class flair" is letting you down ... You shouldn't be a "commissar in a dusty helmet"
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 15 August 2020 08: 34 New
          -2
          "class flair"
          And what does this have to do with it? People like you rejoiced at the destruction of the Union and the arrival of the pro-Western Boris. People like you were glad that Ukraine fell under the West. You are still glad that the West will take Belarus. Or do you think that yours will squeeze in there?
          1. svp67
            svp67 15 August 2020 08: 43 New
            +6
            Quote: Gardamir
            People like you rejoiced at the destruction of the Union and the arrival of the pro-Western Boris

            Did you see me at that moment? Seen everything that you tell ... Then you are LIE. I was NEVER happy about it
            Quote: Gardamir
            People like you were glad that Ukraine fell under the West.

            You have an obvious fever ... you should see a doctor ...
            Quote: Gardamir
            You are still glad that the West will take Belarus. Or do you think that yours will squeeze in there?

            Take a SOOTHING and start thinking with your HEAD, and not clear what
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 15 August 2020 08: 55 New
              -3
              You are LIE .. You have an obvious fever .. start thinking with your HEAD.
              It doesn't suit you to light up like that. And more like that, does not mean you. But...
              But ... Read again the syllables, Lukashenka will leave, who will come after him? Most likely some kind of Belarusian Yay..yukh. What is the program of those who are against Lukashenka? Throw off the dad and lace panties will fall on everyone. I remember Tikhanovskaya's statement before the elections, I will win, transfer power to my husband and live. Nobody has a program.
              So what is your joy? For Belarus to live like Ukraine? Or are you just a protest, against everything bad, for everything good?
              1. svp67
                svp67 15 August 2020 09: 04 New
                -1
                Quote: Gardamir
                Read again by syllables, Lukashenka will leave, who will come after him?

                I already know one thing, that in any case, that Belarus will ALREADY be gone. We are also suffering defeat here, it would be nice to at least reduce it to a draw ...
                Quote: Gardamir
                What is the program of those who are against Lukashenka?

                And it depends on who .. Some have just a desire that they and their children would NOT BE BEATED, especially without special reasons. Forgive me, but the Belarusian special forces behave like in an occupied country, not in their homeland. For the most part, this is what turned away the hard workers, precisely those on whom Lukashenka relied on him
                Quote: Gardamir
                So what is your joy?

                The fact that 33 of our guys returned HOME, and did not go by stage to Ukrainian prisons. Do you think this is not enough?
                Quote: Gardamir
                Or are you just a protest, against everything bad, for everything good?

                Take it easy. Lukashenka is far from the same as he was at the beginning of his career, and I would, of course, do not want this, but the fact that he could at any moment go over to the Westerners is already visible with the naked eye.
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 15 August 2020 09: 54 New
                  +1
                  Maybe it doesn't mean it will be. And they are children unexpectedly from you. That is, you want to say that the Belarusian protesters threw glasses at the Belarusian OMON. Did I hint transparently enough?
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 15 August 2020 10: 05 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    That is, you want to say that the Belarusian protesters threw glasses at the Belarusian OMON. Did I hint transparently enough?

                    You just don't want to see that cruelty and harshness are TWO different methods ...
              2. tatra
                tatra 15 August 2020 09: 05 New
                0
                There are two types of coups d'etat organized by the enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR - when, after the coup, they totalitarianly impose on the country and the people their protégés, like Yushchenko and Saakashvili, and when they overthrow the existing leader of the State, and they do not have a real candidate, like in Libya, in Ukraine in 2014. And all the results of their coups are sad for the country and the people. And with Belarus, they chose the second option.
              3. exalibor
                exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: Gardamir
                What is the program of those who are against Lukashenka?

                I'm wondering, were you interested in Lukashenka's own program? he had it? keep sucking money out of Russia ... screw up the program ...
              4. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka 15 August 2020 14: 53 New
                -1
                I don't know, but Rumas would suit me ...
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 15 August 2020 15: 04 New
                  +1
                  Of course it's up to you, but privatization and attraction of foreign investment. I think this is the way to weaken the economy.
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      3. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 15 August 2020 08: 39 New
        +3
        They have already registered here on the forum, they are disguised as the SBU officers of Ukraine ... everything is under the laws of information war
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  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 August 2020 08: 19 New
    +2
    They will shit! And the people, so that the protest does not subside. Money will be sent to the "protestors". "Guaidó in a skirt" will be lifted up on the shield and will begin to break into all the cracks. Until they tear the country apart, they won't calm down.
  • Fungus
    Fungus 15 August 2020 08: 20 New
    +3
    European hypocrites. Belarusians are dominating that they will begin to impose sanctions against sectors of the economy. So that the economy collapsed and everyone ran to overthrow the Old Man. Then it will be possible to say goodbye to industrial Belarus.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 15 August 2020 08: 21 New
    +8
    The logical result!
    Recognized as such, for any variant of the victory of the old president !!! But then it would be possible to support the choice of the citizens of Belarus themselves, and now whose choice was there, question, question.
    But MANY argued that the president would have won over garlic ... the numbers would have been not so impressive, but behind them there was a REAL choice of citizens.
    In general, to the proverb - Tell me who is your enemy ???, dad should be given a MIRROR!
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    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 August 2020 08: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: man in the street
      What does the abundant presence of Polish state flags mean by protesters in Belarus? The desire of the population of Belarus to join Poland?

      Excuse me, but where did you see the flags of Poland? In addition to the nationalist flag (but without the emblem of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania inherent in it), there are no other noticeable ones. request
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 15 August 2020 09: 04 New
        +4
        Under a piece of bacon, the Belarusian nationalists who worked for the Fuhrer during the Second World War acted. "Worthy Flag" yes
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 15 August 2020 09: 05 New
          +5
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          Under a piece of bacon, the Belarusian nationalists who worked for the Fuhrer during the Second World War acted. "Worthy Flag" yes

          I am writing - nationalist negative yes
          The same as the zhovto-blakitny / blakitno-zhovty flag of the Skoropadsky, petliura, neobander's Yukraina ...
      2. Terrible GMO
        Terrible GMO 15 August 2020 14: 12 New
        -1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Besides the nationalist flag

        This flag is not prohibited and the AG itself took the oath under it. It was then that his quirk on this basis began.
  • Pechkin
    Pechkin 15 August 2020 08: 23 New
    -16
    I hope Lukashenka will end his life in prison together with all the fascists and the beasts from the Minsk riot police.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 15 August 2020 08: 33 New
      11
      Update the training manual ... don't touch the riot police ... apparently you want to deal with him following the example of the Golden Eagle.
      1. Pechkin
        Pechkin 15 August 2020 08: 47 New
        -12
        And here the golden eagle, in your opinion, atrocities and bullying of people is normal. If they remember the fate of the golden eagle, then why are they going to fight with their own people. And about the training manual))
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 15 August 2020 09: 18 New
          +5
          I saw how these people throw Molotov cocktails and beat the riot police ... I think the right-wing people of Avakov with the local Nazis have united and rush to the riot police of Belarus. The special services of Belarus need to throw all their efforts to neutralize the chain of leaders of this color revolution.
          1. Pechkin
            Pechkin 15 August 2020 10: 27 New
            -6
            When I read this I can't understand you seriously or troll. According to you, all who went to the demonstration, who were detained, beaten and tortured by the riot police are all Nazis and Bandera. And the workers of MTZ and other enterprises who went on strike or went to the rally are foreign agents .People what's wrong with you.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 15 August 2020 11: 25 New
              +8
              Quote: Pechkin
              When I read this I can't understand you seriously or troll. According to you, all who went to the demonstration, who were detained, beaten and tortured by the riot police are all Nazis and Bandera. And the workers of MTZ and other enterprises who went on strike or went to the rally are foreign agents .People what's wrong with you.

              And when I read your comment I can't understand, were you just born yesterday? In such demonstrations, there are activists who deliberately provoke the security forces. You really didn't know about this? Or do you think that this is possible everywhere, but not in Belarus?
              1. Pechkin
                Pechkin 15 August 2020 11: 37 New
                -1
                That is, only activists of the provocateurs were beaten, tortured and shot. So according to you. There was a demonstrative cruelty, this is terror against their people. I don’t even know how these riot policemen were brainwashed to show such cruelty to their fellow countrymen.
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 15 August 2020 11: 48 New
                  +3
                  Don't lie about exemplary cruelty. Indicative cruelty was practiced by fascists, Poles and Ukrainians. Neither Belarusians nor Russians have ever done this and never do.
            2. Voyager
              Voyager 15 August 2020 11: 34 New
              +7
              Let's speak calmly and with facts. Of course, not all. And MTW employees are not foreign agents. You're right.
              But there are provocateurs in the crowd. There are Nazis in the crowd. So this crowd is dangerous. Already in some videos, the work of coordinators is clearly visible, who lead the crowd and agitate for vandalism and violation of law and order. Only then is there a RESPONSE measure in the form of dispersal of these rallies with the use of force. So people are, first of all, victims of propaganda and deception by provocateurs, and only secondarily victims of violence by riot police.
              The propagandists of the telegram channels are doing the same. They demonstrate terrible footage of the consequences, but do not show the source code in full, where you can see how the beaten up a little earlier committed illegal actions.
              1. Pechkin
                Pechkin 15 August 2020 13: 43 New
                -5
                Let's calmly. Here I am surprised how people support fascism and why. In Belarus, elections were rigged. People took part in protests. Peaceful protests. Maybe small groups and were aggressive. Riot police were thrown at people, they started beating and grabbing everyone in a row. Random cars, pulled out people. Beat people people in the yards of shops. Tortured and mocked detainees in pre-trial detention. There is a huge amount of evidence (video, photos or from eyewitnesses). This is terror and the violent retention of power. Now people have begun to leave the isolation wards and you can watch what did they do to them or listen to them themselves (but they may be biased) but beatings and traces of bullying, that is. Some people have already begun to apologize or get out of the organs, also TV presenters from state channels, even some official). I do not want to blame I will put all the police in a video where the police are honking in support of the protesters and people react accordingly. Strikes have begun, BelAZ, MTZ, MAZ, BMZ, etc. Now the protests are peaceful, but it seems to me that Belarusians will not forget the events of the last days, they will not forgive torture and unnecessary cruelty.
                1. Voyager
                  Voyager 15 August 2020 21: 55 New
                  +1
                  And yet I ask you to appeal with facts, because at the moment you are guided by emotions.
                  Nobody here supports fascism and there is no fascism in Belarus from the authorities and bodies. If you do not agree, then let's remember what fascism is and what the fascists did to people, then everything will fall into place.
                  Further, you claim that the elections were rigged, but these are just words. We need evidence obtained through investigations. Without hard evidence, this is an attempted coup.
                  Maybe the small groups were aggressive. They threw riot police at the people and started beating and grabbing everyone.

                  Watch the video below. The groups are large and there are many. Attacks on law enforcement officers by various means. Is it okay to hit people with cars?
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dml5jczcXVI&feature=emb_title
                  1. Pechkin
                    Pechkin 16 August 2020 12: 42 New
                    0
                    Understand that there was no need to bring the situation to this, it was necessary to hold transparent elections with observers, online video cameras like ours. It was not necessary to plant and prevent the main competitors before the elections, this already annoys people. Well, he would have won the election not with 80%, but with 60% (or maybe he lost, who knows, independent political polls are prohibited). If in your opinion there are some foreign provocateurs, this should be dealt with by the special services. riot police ordered everyone to harshly wet this stupidity. Thought to scare them quickly but made it even worse. But in this video the police are acting correctly, someone provokes them or it is forbidden by law to beat up detainees who do not offer resistance. people are allowed according to the law. Do they break the law themselves or follow a criminal order?
        2. user1212
          user1212 15 August 2020 11: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: Pechkin
          they remember the fate of the golden eagle, then why go to fight with their own people

          You are not a people. People at work, they have no time to hold a meeting. Even the spetsura that chases you are also the people. You are traitors, for the sake of the opportunity to steal ready to kill this very people. It is especially funny that others will steal, those who are now striving for power, specifically you will not get anything. Understand there is no case in the history of mankind when a coup d'etat brought prosperity to ordinary people. A revolution, yes, and even then not very quickly, no coup, never. That is why any rallies against regime change are harshly suppressed in the West, but rallies for a change of faces on TV are not touched. A face change is just a way to redistribute property in which there is no place for people
          1. Pechkin
            Pechkin 15 August 2020 11: 56 New
            -3
            Of course, not the people came out in Shies and achieved the abolition of the landfill, in Yekaterinburg not the people defended their square either, and in Khaborovsk, too, not the people came out. The people for you would be that silent ... but with which you can do anything and he is always happy and nothing does not decide.
            1. user1212
              user1212 15 August 2020 12: 20 New
              +5
              Quote: Pechkin
              and in Khaborovsk, too, not the people left

              I live in Khabarovsk. No, LDPR activists, not the people, were married to Furgala. And the numbers were greatly inflated in the media. Now they brought in some idlers, they go and ask people what is where in the city, how to get there. Khabarovsk residents damn it lol Although this week I did not get out to the center, maybe they left already
              If a sect, all with passports of the Russian Federation, is satisfied with the Sabbath, you do not say that the Sabbath suits the people.
              Quote: Pechkin
              The people for you is what would be tacit ... but with whom you can do anything and he is always happy and does not decide anything.

              Those that rally are exactly what you described. They were ordered to stand in the corner of the square so that the crowd in the photos was larger and they did it. They are told when to come, what posters to hold, what to say on camera. There are small tags on the chest (self-adhesive price tags for trade), apparently payment is given for them. Obedient herd, no more
          2. Pechkin
            Pechkin 15 August 2020 12: 11 New
            -4
            And these are not people.
            1. user1212
              user1212 15 August 2020 14: 23 New
              +3
              Not. They are part of the people, a very small part, but not the entire people of Belarus. And there are doubts that the drishchi holding the poster in the foreground worked at the factory even for a day. They look more like patrons of trendy (anti) cafes than hard workers.
              By the way, why aren't they at work?
              1. Pechkin
                Pechkin 15 August 2020 14: 42 New
                -4
                (By the way, why are they not at work?) This is called a strike and these are not drisches but workers of MTZ, you are our hero.
                1. japs
                  japs 15 August 2020 19: 50 New
                  +1
                  Lie, but don't lie, zmagar ... Much more people work at MTZ. When they walked from MTZ, there were about 150 of them, and on the way they stuck ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 August 2020 08: 23 New
    +5
    Maidan take two laughing : The Kremlin is expected to be silent, because what can you say? The choice between the Russophobe Lukashenka and the Russophobes zmagars .... "I don't even know what to choose, everything is so tasty ..." (c) wassat

    That is, while everything is proceeding strictly according to the ukroscenario, where the same figures are already on the board, from "children" to "officers' daughters" Does the government agree to the mediation of "our Western partners" and calmly go to Rostov or where are the former presidents being disposed of? laughing Zmagara will wake up soon and ... oh, what a buit here
    1. Ramon Merkader
      Ramon Merkader 15 August 2020 09: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Maidan take two laughing : The Kremlin is expected to be silent, because what can you say? The choice between the Russophobe Lukashenka and the Russophobes zmagars .... "I don't even know what to choose, everything is so tasty ..." (c) wassat

      That is, while everything is proceeding strictly according to the ukroscenario, where the same figures are already on the board, from "children" to "officers' daughters" Does the government agree to the mediation of "our Western partners" and calmly go to Rostov or where are the former presidents being disposed of? laughing Zmagara will wake up soon and ... oh, what a buit here

      So it is so, only you, Gennady, have forgotten something. Before the police can be brought down on their knees, they will have to shoot at the pets, close up 100-150 people and blame the bloody regime. They will bet for these 100-150 zhmurov (I hope, of course, not). Shooting in such cases is usually not complete. While she was gone. Waiting (I hope I can't wait)
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 15 August 2020 09: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      The choice between the Russophobe Lukashenka and the Russophobes Zmagars .... "I don't even know what to choose, everything is so tasty ..." (c)

      Yeah. tsutswang. But father himself did everything for this.
      The Main Heroine appears on a wheelchair at the rally,

      To do this, she needs to break her legs. Well, it's all ahead of her. But without a wheelchair there is no way. The laws of the genre demand.
    3. dauria
      dauria 15 August 2020 09: 34 New
      +2
      That is, while everything is proceeding strictly according to the ukroscenario, where the same figures are already displayed on the board, from "children" to "officers' daughters" and it remains to transfer the game to the endgame,


      Not all . According to the scenario, the "color revolution" begins with "peaceful" protests, naturally prepared people and a pretext (the same elections). And only then, when the masses are drawn in, do the "militants" enter second fiddle, provoking the security forces.
      Lukashenka acted competently (who advised, was it not Putin?) - immediately went to harsh actions of the police, from the very first night. The provocateurs had to skip the first phase and the common people were actually left on the sidelines.
      And the police and riot police acted very professionally, well done. Not a single one killed. Patient men. In the same United States, eleven deliberate car raids on the police would have ended in corpses.
      1. Alkonavt
        Alkonavt 15 August 2020 09: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: dauria
        Not all . According to the scenario, the "color revolution" begins with "peaceful" protests, naturally prepared people and a pretext (the same elections). And only then, when the masses are drawn in, do the "militants" enter second fiddle, provoking the security forces.
        Lukashenka acted competently (who advised, was it not Putin?) - immediately went to harsh actions of the police, from the very first night. The provocateurs had to skip the first phase and the common people were actually left on the sidelines.
        And the police and riot police acted very professionally, well done. Not a single one killed. Patient men. In the same United States, eleven deliberate car raids on the police would have ended in corpses.

        Well written, I agree with you! hi And it's not a bad move of Old Man that he began to release the detainees with a warning that next time a criminal offense will be up to 15 years old .. It will sober up many .. But it’s not over yet, the company of destabilization is only raging ..
        That’s what I don’t understand why Putin is keeping quiet, he’s not enough on the outskirts? Or hopes maybe it will resolve itself? Of course I understand him when Lukashenka scratches right and left with his tongue .. But you still need to support Belarus! He made a statement in the style of "Let's get wet!" etc. laughing Minsk will fall, next in line is Moscow.
        1. dauria
          dauria 15 August 2020 10: 08 New
          +2
          That’s what I don’t understand why Putin is keeping quiet; Or hopes maybe it will resolve itself

          wink Are you sure you're keeping quiet? They have something to talk about without any extra ears. Putin will not let make an enemy out of Belarus. Simply because it is the red line of Russia's security. I think he's Russian after all. And for Russia. This is a little more than "for the bourgeois, or for the proletarians."
          1. Alkonavt
            Alkonavt 15 August 2020 10: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: dauria
            Are you sure you're keeping quiet?

            I'm not sure, but how I want loud statements .. I think the Old is supplied by who, what and where .. The riot police are working point-wise in Minsk. hi
            Quote: dauria
            They have something to talk about without any extra ears. Putin will not let make an enemy out of Belarus.

            God forbid, we will not survive the second outskirts .. This is the surrender of positions and retreat, as in 41st to the Leningrad-Moscow-Stalingrad line ..
            Quote: dauria
            Simply because it is the red line of Russia's security. I think he's Russian after all. And for Russia. This is a little more than "for the bourgeoisie, or for the proletarians."

            Oh, I would like to believe it! But the enemy is already at the gate and is not just knocking with his fist, but is already kicking with his feet .. And the most dangerous thing is that our youth are quietly letting us down from the inside .. Go to classmates and other networks .. it's terribly like they are brainwashed .. I tried to argue something, so they stammered and almost blocked it .. Now I keep quiet)))
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 15 August 2020 08: 24 New
    0
    one thing is interesting to me, but do the Belarusians themselves really think that their tractors and potatoes are needed in Europe?
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 15 August 2020 08: 44 New
      +3
      And where have you seen the slogans for European integration? Well, show me at least one photo.
      1. tatra
        tatra 15 August 2020 09: 10 New
        +2
        Yes, maydanutye at least staged a coup in their thirst for European freebies, and the Belarusian maydanutye do not understand what they want, except for the stupid overthrow of Lukashenka.
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 15 August 2020 13: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: Deniska999
        And where have you seen the slogans for European integration? Well, at least show one photo

    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 15 August 2020 09: 10 New
      +5
      No, they are not needed. Deliveries from Belarusians from MTZ, MZKT went only to us or to the third world. By the way, special transporters are expensive for us. But no options. Until! An 8-axle special transporter costs more than 2/3 of the price of the Su-30cm ...
    3. exalibor
      exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      one thing is interesting to me, but do the Belarusians themselves really think that their tractors and potatoes are needed in Europe?

      no one thinks so, so no one is going to Europe ... do you see somewhere that they shout that we will go to Europe?
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 15 August 2020 16: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: exalibor
        you see somewhere

        for a start, ask when we drank broodershaft with YOU?
        about where I saw it, have I already shown it above, or do you think that they will go to Russia under this flag?
  • Egoza
    Egoza 15 August 2020 08: 26 New
    +3
    What literate! They know the little green men! And I have a question: the EU has already counted the ballots and counted the results, what does it say about continuous falsifications? Or is it all "high-likes"? Although, between us, if there were postscripts, it was in vain! Lukashenka would not have lost anyway, but now there is such a gorgeous reason to hang on. If only he didn't make the riot police and the police extreme! Then he will definitely lose!
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 15 August 2020 08: 39 New
      +7

      Fidget (Elena)
      Today, 08: 26
      NEW
      +1
      What literate! They know the little green men! And I have a question: the EU has already counted the ballots and counted the results, what does it say about continuous falsifications? Or is it all "high-likes"?
      Helen, hi ... The EU will not bother "recounting" ballots. They simply announce their plan "B", which was drawn up in advance, and long before the elections in the Republic of Belarus. The EU understood perfectly well who would win the elections. And now the technical work is just going on.
    2. prior
      prior 15 August 2020 08: 53 New
      +4
      With fear, Europe itself suggests a way out:
      - introduction of "green men" from the Russian and Belarusian Armed Forces
      - referendum on accession to Russia
      - a single state
      - Belarus, like Crimea - a subject of the Russian Federation
      - re-election of the head of the subject of the Russian Federation.
      Hello United Europe - meet United Russia.
      ..... and then hands will reach Donbass.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 15 August 2020 21: 15 New
        -1
        But neither father, nor the Belarusian people want this. Why do they need Russian aligarhat around their necks? In Belarus, almost socialism, for now.
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 15 August 2020 09: 14 New
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      What literate! They know the little green men!
      Elena, I was personally surprised not that they are green, but that they are small. If wood elves or dwarves serve in the RF Armed Forces, I can still understand. But if these are devils, and even green ones, then this question is clearly not for Russia. wink
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 15 August 2020 08: 28 New
    +7
    The EU brazenly interferes in the internal affairs of Belarus. When Macron used violence against the yellow vest protesters in France, the EU was silent in a rag ... I am outraged ... The EU hands off Belarus.
  • Alkonavt
    Alkonavt 15 August 2020 08: 41 New
    0
    Well, if the West is preparing sanctions, then the elections were legitimate! If you count the protestors for all sorts of videos, etc. There is their famous 10%! And normal houses sit and go to work. hi
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 15 August 2020 08: 53 New
      +3
      But this is not good. At 93 we were at home, at 14 on the outskirts and it turned out that the counter-forces imposed alien ideals on the People. And now the elbow is nearby, but do not bite.
      1. Alkonavt
        Alkonavt 15 August 2020 09: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: Essex62
        But this is not good. At 93 we were at home, at 14 on the outskirts and it turned out that the counter-forces imposed alien ideals on the People. And now the elbow is nearby, but do not bite.

        Yes, I remember massively against the collapse of the USSR, but it was too late "The process has already begun."
        .
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 15 August 2020 11: 45 New
          +4
          The process was inspected by those who should prevent - Office. If it hadn’t been rotten, it hadn’t been saturated with bourgeois poison, nothing happened with the Yankes and the guilds. Then already fighting squads had to be created, under the slogan "The Socialist Fatherland is in danger." It was necessary to fight and not to hold a meeting. And the communists chewed snot. Especially in the field. Moscow is understandable, there were a majority of careerists with a party membership card in it.
          1. Alkonavt
            Alkonavt 16 August 2020 07: 24 New
            -1
            Quote: Essex62
            It was necessary to fight and not to hold a meeting. And the communists chewed snot. Especially in the field. Moscow is understandable, in it there were a majority of careerists with party membership cards

            And who knew .. We were too gullible, especially in the provinces!
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 16 August 2020 23: 47 New
              0
              This is understandable, the relaxation of developed socialism. Classless society. And the underground millionaires have already ceased to lean against the wall and they sang with the thieves. And as a result, we got rampant banditry, with irons on the belly, raped teenage girls and their mothers, arson and complete paralysis of power.
              The state delegated all the functions of combating counter-counteraction to the Office, and it itself disintegrated.
  • prior
    prior 15 August 2020 08: 45 New
    +4
    The European Union needs to answer culturally: "If you would go ... deal with coronavirus in your countries."
  • Lyokha Lokhavich
    Lyokha Lokhavich 15 August 2020 08: 50 New
    +9
    Belarus is a sovereign country and is not a member of the EU, this is called interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state (under international law). I am not very concerned about Lukashenka lately, but there is already a full-fledged EU enclosure. Let the EU figure it out from the beginning and with its problems and not climb into other countries! The EU is climbing with its democratic degradation in a country where there is no democracy .... they don’t climb ... well, for example, in China, there is dictatorship and communism! and even piss yapping
    1. exalibor
      exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: Lyokha Lokhavich
      Belarus is a sovereign country and is not a member of the EU, this is called interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state (under international law). I am not very concerned about Lukashenka lately, but there is already a full-fledged EU enclosure. Let the EU figure it out from the beginning and with its problems and not climb into other countries! The EU is climbing with its democratic degradation in a country where there is no democracy .... they don’t climb ... well, for example, in China, there is dictatorship and communism! and even piss yapping

      I agree that it’s not easy for them to climb ... but why does Russia not climb and does nothing, but is silent in a rag, as if everything is in order ...
  • Whisper
    Whisper 15 August 2020 08: 54 New
    +4
    The following can be seen: we worked to create a union state. The topic has failed. If there is a pro-Western protégé in Belarus, this is a failure of our policy here too. There probably won't be any green men either - the gut is thin. We have one option left - to appoint a pro-Russian president and I hope this scenario has been worked out and is already being implemented. If not, how will we protect Kaliningrad? After all, they were going to cut the corridor through Belarus. If not, we will lose Belarus, as well as Ukraine, Kaliningrad will follow. It turns out we are stretching Syria, Venezuela, but we cannot keep our sphere of immediate interests. This is a fiasco ..
    1. exalibor
      exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: Sheptun
      put a pro-Russian president and I hope this scenario has been worked out and is already being implemented.

      of course it is embodied)))) Tikhanovskaya will return, release the pro-Russian Babariko and after 3 months will hold re-elections ... and voila .... Belarus in Russia)))
      1. japs
        japs 15 August 2020 20: 37 New
        +1
        Exalibur, how simple you are. But I don't remember Babarikha saying anything about integration with the Russian Federation. On the contrary, something about establishing ties with the EU, developing equal relations with the Russian Federation ...
        This is the cat in the bag.
  • demo
    demo 15 August 2020 08: 55 New
    +5
    Times are tough for Luke's cunning.
    Yesterday he spoke with such ambition about the multi-vector nature of his foreign policy, but what remains for him to do today?
    His desire to bargain for preferences from both Russia and the EU is commendable.
    But for the fulfillment of desires, a filigree policy is needed. The level of performance must be prohibitively high. And the performer must be "kissed by God."
    And we see whom in the performer we see - the former director of the state farm, who, already being president, now mows the grass with the actors of the French cinema, then pokes the directors of the state farms into the manure, then goes to hockey to play.
    I imagined Machiavelli or Talleyrand, or Mazarin in the place of Luca!

    Those. today the "shoemaker who started baking pies" will begin to receive "dividends" on "previously made contributions."
    1. exalibor
      exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 21 New
      -3
      Quote: demo
      Yesterday he spoke with such ambition about the multi-vector nature of his foreign policy, but what remains for him to do today?

      well, now all these vectors are included in one place for him)))
      1. demo
        demo 15 August 2020 10: 23 New
        0
        Let's see how they say today.
    2. Essex62
      Essex62 15 August 2020 21: 38 New
      0
      Quote: demo
      I imagined Machiavelli or Talleyrand, or Mazarin in the place of Luca

      Mazarin, in this series, for this situation, is not a very good example. With his policy, he provoked such a "Maidanische", with all layers of the French population revolted, that together with Anka of Austria from Paris, they had to "do their feet" with children and household members. The fact that in the end he settled everything and returned the young Louis to the throne is not an indicator. It might not have grown together. Where is the subtlety? He tore three skins from the People and pressed his feudal support.
      1. demo
        demo 16 August 2020 06: 54 New
        0
        I gave examples in the form of these historical figures with only one purpose - to show the level of their resourcefulness in foreign policy, and left the internal governance of the country without attention.
        Another time, other people, other goals and objectives.

        Luka and with presidents - prime ministers wants to streamline, and control the height of manure in the barn.
        This is what distinguishes him from similar ones.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 16 August 2020 23: 54 New
          0
          Oil, which does not exist in the Republic of Belarus, is traded by an indicator of very seriousness and nimbleness but father. And if he crushes the Maidan, he will also bend Putin, I will applaud, as Lena was applauded, at the last congress, violently and for a long time.
          1. demo
            demo 17 August 2020 06: 36 New
            -1
            Putin is "strapping himself in" for an obvious reason - he has the same situation with elections for "life" on his nose.
            The population of Russia, if it sees that the election fraudsters can be forced to leave, will take it into service.
            And it is important for Putin today, more than ever, to show the "plebs" - your opinion is not worth a dime.
            As "WE" decide, so you vote.
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 17 August 2020 08: 44 New
              0
              My attitude to "elections" is identical. But the booze of the maydanutyh ignoramuses must be crushed in the bud. What is happening in Belarus is a counter inspired by the West. For me, Belarus is almost an island of socialism, while there are always dissatisfied people, in any country and time period. The main thing who are the beneficiaries of the rocking of the boat is not at all the People of Belarus.
              In general, one gets the impression that the main thing among Buzoters is a maniacal desire to shove off power. It doesn't matter where, according to the principle "hear the old man, free the hut, I have no where to bring the girls"
              Threat minus is not mine.
              1. demo
                demo 17 August 2020 09: 27 New
                0
                hi I'm not here for +/-.
                I am interested in the opportunity to express my opinion and hear someone else's.
                As a result - either change your own, or try to convince the interlocutor.

                Rallies and protests have never produced any positive results.
                And this is well known since the 17th year in the Russian Empire.
                And the earlier events in England and France speak of just that.

                But humanity has not come up with any other way to express its disapproval of how the internal policy of the state or its leadership is being built.
                Any protest human community - a meeting, strike, protest, etc. - this is an instant realization that next to you are those who share your beliefs, or you share them.
                Or you don't.

                If the population of the Republic of Belarus for the most part shares the demands of the protesters, then the question arises - is this the will of the people or not?
                If the opinion is not shared, but they sit in their burrows, then what can be done?

                There is only one way out.
                Or all those who voted for Luka should gather in one impulse and say their popular "NO".
                Or, if this does not happen, Luka needs to realize the early resignation of the powers of the head of state.
                This is a normal, democratic process.
                Let him let go of all his "opponents" whom he drove to jail, and let them begin to talk about their plans and goals.
                The people are not fools in the heap. They will understand and appreciate.
                And if this does not happen, then the situation will only get worse.
                Today 7000 detainees, tomorrow 10, then more.
                It cannot continue upward.
                Patience will run out.
                And then it will be very gloomy. God forbid from this.
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 20 August 2020 16: 47 New
                  0
                  I disagree about 1917. The initially bourgeois, but later socialist revolution led to very positive consequences. And the change of terry feudalism to the republican model in France is also very positive. In England, this was more scientific and technological revolution than a change in the political system. Removed from the road retrogrades that hindered the development of manafactories. It's just that the methods of the Middle Ages were always bloody.
                  1. demo
                    demo 20 August 2020 18: 32 New
                    0
                    I would like to say that it will not be possible to achieve maximum change in the situation with rallies and protests.
                    I didn't want to continue the thought. And to bring what has been said to a common denominator is a revolution.
                    1. Essex62
                      Essex62 21 August 2020 09: 08 New
                      0
                      Well, in Belarus there is a classic flower garden. But father's dissatisfaction among the people, especially among young people, has grown many times over. He did not see it point blank. Maybe he saw the light now, but the situation has already been rocked. How to taxi now, without sudden movements, neither he nor his environment knows. It was the same with the Union of the late 80s. The grandfathers in the Politburo did not think about the consequences of the shortage of high-quality consumer goods
                      We lost our country for lack of jeans.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 15 August 2020 08: 58 New
    +2
    The EU does not accept the election results. Work begins to impose sanctions against those responsible for the violence and fraud

    The results may not be accepted, but this is because the Belarusians chose Lukashenka, they definitely recognized this, and the sanctions are just an indirect confirmation of this. if it had been otherwise and their proteges had won, then there would have been no talk of any sanctions.

    I congratulate the Belarusians on their choice.
    1. exalibor
      exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 24 New
      -4
      Quote: Boris55
      The results may not be accepted, but this is because the Belarusians chose Lukashenka, they definitely recognized this, and the sanctions are just an indirect confirmation of this. if it had been otherwise and their proteges had won, then there would have been no talk of any sanctions.

      I congratulate the Belarusians on their choice.

      sorry but we chose another president ...
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 15 August 2020 10: 36 New
        0
        Quote: exalibor
        sorry but we chose another president ...

        The minority is obliged to obey the majority - this is democracy, otherwise it is the dictatorship of a narrow group of people in their own interests. If you are not satisfied with the election results, then change the opinion of voters or change the country. In the first case, it is hard daily work. In the second, everything is much simpler - chumadan, station, EU. There is a third option - the Ukrainian one, with civil strife and the country's sinking into the Stone Age. The choice is yours.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 15 August 2020 09: 06 New
    +4
    Let's just say that Belarus is waiting for nothing good, the example of Ukraine. Batka himself wasted everything, frankly speaking. He himself successfully buried the idea of ​​a Union State, now they will bury him as a president and Russia will not be able to help him in any way.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 15 August 2020 09: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: Strashila
      Belarus is waiting for nothing good, the example of Ukraine ...

      Did I miss something? Lukashenka lost the elections ?! belay
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 15 August 2020 09: 19 New
        0
        Legally, no. And here is how it will actually be. So far, only protests are visible and when everything will calm down is not clear.
      2. Vitaly Akimov
        Vitaly Akimov 15 August 2020 09: 31 New
        +4
        By the way, one should not forget that Lukashenka recognized China in the person of Xi. I mean, the leader of China congratulated the AHL on its election to the presidency
      3. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 15 August 2020 15: 59 New
        -1
        Quote: Boris55
        Quote: Strashila
        Belarus is waiting for nothing good, the example of Ukraine ...

        Did I miss something? Lukashenka lost the elections ?! belay

        He won them, but ...
        I do not know, but it reminds me of my OI '88, Seoul ...
        In the boxing final, Boris Kuznetsov and a native Korean met.
        Who is B. Kuznetsov - it seems the weight is up to 54 kg, a blow from two hands, which is a rarity for his weight category, speedy to the point of stupidity, but that's not what I mean.
        The fight took place in “one wicket”, in each round the Korean “sat on the backside”, sat down correctly, after all, the owner of the ring, although he could “turn off the light” in the first one.
        And then you know what happened - ALL the judges UNANIMOUSLY give the victory to the Korean, who did not inflict ANY blow, i.e. missed...
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 15 August 2020 09: 17 New
    +1
    "election fraud and violence against protesters." Good wording! Here we need to use it in relation to all the Balts, Ukraine and other openly Russophobic former brothers.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 August 2020 09: 18 New
    +2
    EU - European Sanctions, EPRST! laughing They are worn with their sanctions like fools with a written sack. What punkies, that their overseas pan was completely "sanctioned".
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 15 August 2020 09: 21 New
    +5
    Confused as always by an American leader.
    Little Green Men are characters from Ireland.
    Trolls are called.
    We have Polite People.
    And they are worthy of growth and other parameters.
    However, they have not been going there yet.
    But if necessary.
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 15 August 2020 09: 23 New
    0
    How easy it has now become to impose sanctions: an unwanted candidate has been chosen, it means falsification ... I do not exclude that there could be stuffing. But most Belarusians still think with their heads ... IMHO. Previously, they presented facts confirming their guilt, but now they have highlighted likes ... At 80% for, even if the results for the polling stations where there were violations are not accepted, the majority voted for Lukashenka.
    1. exalibor
      exalibor 15 August 2020 10: 25 New
      -3
      Quote: Alexander X
      I do not exclude that there could be stuffing.

      they could not be ... they were in huge quantities ...
      1. Alexander X
        Alexander X 15 August 2020 13: 07 New
        +2
        Where are the observers' reports that the stuffing was revealed? No documents means empty chatter.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 15 August 2020 09: 23 New
    +7
    I would have voted for Baboriko, but I had to vote for Tikhanovskaya. Because AG had to leave 5 years ago as Nazarbayev and become the father of the nation. Moved. Sympathy for him was
    , but after how clumsy he decided to cheat in the elections, after rolling into the shoulders of a robust one. All just swearing about him. Although a strong vertical of power should not crumble. The old man must hold out. But He electrified Belarus. We will live on a volcano.
    1. Harry.km
      Harry.km 15 August 2020 09: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Azimut
      Although a strong vertical of power should not crumble. The old man must hold out.

      A week of strikes and the "vertical" will impose on itself the main vertical. The economy will crumble and those at the trough will gnaw the AHL. He has no options, the Russian Federation does not seem to fit in for him, because ... Well, in general, it will not fit))
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 August 2020 10: 00 New
      +2
      You said well that you sat out. Stalin also sat out in 1941, but the European demonstrations did not pass.
    3. Campanella
      Campanella 15 August 2020 10: 11 New
      -3
      It would be necessary to leave, but this is not an argument for the destruction of Belarus!
      Will the opposition be able to preserve statehood? Not!
    4. japs
      japs 15 August 2020 20: 51 New
      +2
      Azimuth, tell me honestly, have you personally seen stuffing and election fraud? Is there any evidence? Or once they write on the internet, do you agree? I have seen a lot of lies in my life, so I don't like hikly-likely.
      Facts and facts only. As for the shoulders, it is clear that if you come to an illegal action, you can shoot ... You have the right to shoot or not, and the choice is yours.
  • Igor Pa
    Igor Pa 15 August 2020 09: 34 New
    +6
    Quote: snucerist
    And here's the question: what to do if this legal status does not exist?

    And who said that there is no legal status? Elections under the Constitution of the Republic of Belarus have taken place! The votes have been counted! Or is there a Lithuanian constitution in Belarus? How strange you reason.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 August 2020 09: 44 New
    +4
    Independent Belarus has never been and will never be Either this or that. It's up to them to decide. The idea: to buy brotherly love at our expense - I have not liked it for a long time. If they want to be European, like the majority of x .... c, - that's where they go. If they do not want to join the EU, they want to go to Russia, let them do it themselves: they elect the necessary president and decide. Small states in our time, in principle, cannot be independent. Of course, they will quickly draw you a base like "Ukrainians" with the same theme. Your main base will be RUSOPHOBIA. For this they will feed. It’s insatiable that there’s no need for a couple of million left. Why are there many R1a1 Slavs for R1b? They have been destroying us for 5000 years, they still cannot destroy us, and then you think that you will be "accepted into the European family of peoples"? laughingThat is, Belarus will either be destroyed, as a state and a people, and turned into a gasket between R1b and the Russians until it dies out. Without your religion, without your culture. With such ersatz drawn. Or it will join Russia and survive as a community with its own land and national flavor within the Russian people.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 15 August 2020 09: 53 New
    +5
    All according to plan! Now some foreign ministers should arrange a meeting between Lukashenko and Tikhanovskaya, urge him to return all troops to their apartments and give Lukashenko guarantees ... laughing laughing laughing
    1. Blackvoid
      Blackvoid 15 August 2020 22: 29 New
      +1
      If the AHL kicks in its rear amba, if the security forces do not betray it, then it will stand, for example, Venezuela.
  • maksud13
    maksud13 15 August 2020 10: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Harry.km
    Quote: Azimut
    Although a strong vertical of power should not crumble. The old man must hold out.

    A week of strikes and the "vertical" will impose on itself the main vertical. The economy will crumble and those at the trough will gnaw the AHL. He has no options, the Russian Federation does not seem to fit in for him, because ... Well, in general, it will not fit))

    So far, in fact, there has not been a single strike, do not read the opposition channels before dinner ...
    1. japs
      japs 15 August 2020 20: 57 New
      +2
      Yes, in this, Professor Preobrazhensky was right!
    2. Blackvoid
      Blackvoid 15 August 2020 22: 26 New
      +1
      locally there, people are inflated and translated into emotions, and the crowd is such a crowd
  • Campanella
    Campanella 15 August 2020 10: 09 New
    +1
    It was necessary, as in the United States, to vote ahead of schedule and by mail and before the debate, then the "world community" would not be able to find fault with the legitimacy of the voting results.
    But who will go into such nuances?)))
    1. Blackvoid
      Blackvoid 15 August 2020 22: 24 New
      +2
      no matter how the vote was held
      this is an attempt at a western putsch in Belarus
      1. Selenium
        Selenium 15 August 2020 22: 58 New
        -2
        An ordinary Russian veche. Take the prince for yourself. An excellent candidate for the presidency of Russia, with experience like Yanukovych. I think that it will be easy to make a short elderly man in the elections.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 16 August 2020 09: 53 New
          0
          It won't make it easier for you.
          However, you are smart, do you know what future awaits you?
          It is strange that you do not understand that it is not about Lukashenka. And in more global things in the world rift, and Belarus is a bargaining chip in this process.
          You do not like the system, and you say we want Western-type capitalism.
          The question is what it will bring you.
          Now there is someone to blame for all the troubles, but tomorrow it will turn out that it is your own fault. Because under capitalism everyone is the blacksmith of his own happiness and capitalism, by and large, does not care about you. He gives you "freedom and value" and how you monetize them is purely your business.
  • Alkonavt
    Alkonavt 15 August 2020 10: 12 New
    +2
    I read the article and the comments and then accidentally ran into such a photo .. How everything is accurately described in the schemes of "color revolutions" ..

    And this was practiced in many countries before coups and bloody showdowns ..
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 August 2020 10: 59 New
    0
    And Belarus is not under sanctions? Nlvy will look like this: they will ban entry, have accounts, indispensability in the EU countries to the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Central Executive Committee of Belorussii. Trump has already been hinted at their saying-do not touch the oil for Belarus!
  • borys
    borys 15 August 2020 14: 44 New
    +3
    The election results were recognized by Russia and China. Of this
    more than enough. Displeased Geyropa will bark
    and shit, but was it ever otherwise?
  • georggy
    georggy 15 August 2020 16: 37 New
    +1
    Just the same Armenian scenario of the color revolution.
    1. Blackvoid
      Blackvoid 15 August 2020 22: 20 New
      +1
      the Armenian script must be answered with the Tianannmen script
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 15 August 2020 18: 17 New
    +2
    It's good, now the bow will be uncomfortable to sit on 6 chairs, the multi-vector comes to an end. There are only 2 vectors left - Russia and China.
  • Blackvoid
    Blackvoid 15 August 2020 22: 19 New
    +1
    The United States has been forming a strike fist for three years already; Russia, in response, is forming shock units. Information shaft. Psheki, God forbid, they initiate a humanitarian intervention, the Russians, in response, carry out a counter-force operation. Ukrainians are catching up and hello new war in Europe, but not Drang nah osten but the triune Russian people represented by Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians are working on each other
    Just a dream for globalists
  • Esso
    Esso 16 August 2020 17: 10 New
    +1
    This was to be expected, Lukashenka was caught or he would knock him down for good or he would keep at the expense of the military, if any ...