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Lukashenka named Russians among those who “cross themselves” in case of strikes at Belarusian enterprises

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Lukashenka named Russians among those who “cross themselves” in case of strikes at Belarusian enterprises

Alexander Lukashenko made an indirect appeal to Belarusians during a meeting on the construction industry. The President of the Republic of Belarus commented on the calls of representatives of the opposition forces for strikes at large enterprises of the country. At the same time, Alexander Lukashenko began with the following words "I am still alive and not abroad."


Lukashenka, using the term "svyadomyya", noted that only those who are trying to rock the situation in the republic declare about his flight abroad.

President of the Republic of Belarus:

Today, the country is trying to rock the work collectives. But this is the foundation of our country. Our position is unambiguous: in the difficult times of the pandemic, we did not tilt or force anyone. And here, too, we must not keep anyone. If people want to work, please. Here's work, come and work. If a person does not want to work, we will not drag him to the lasso.

At the same time, Lukashenka cited the case of Belaruskali as an example. According to him, if this operating enterprise is stopped, it will be beneficial to the main competitors in Russia and Canada.

Lukashenka announced who would "benefit" from the strike at Belarusian factories:

If they even go on strike for two days, the competitors, Russians and Canadians, will cross themselves. They will quickly put (their products) on the market.

Lukashenka mentioned the Russians as an example in the case of the machine-building industry. According to Lukashenka, if today the enterprises do not produce 10 tractors, then "the Germans with the Americans will arrive, and the Russians will immediately bring their equipment."

Lukashenko:

And again they cross.

At the same time, Lukashenka for some reason did not say that the bulk of the Belarusian mechanical engineering is focused specifically on the Russian market - it is Russia that buys more than other Belarusian trucks and agricultural machines. Therefore, statements that Russians will benefit from a strike at Belarusian enterprises look at least strange. During the strike, Belarus will certainly not have time to buy Russian tractors instead of its own.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 14 August 2020 12: 10 New
    47
    But father doesn't know who to blame!
    Who is closer there - pass the mirror to him!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 12: 17 New
      -8
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But father doesn't know who to blame anymore

      Well, what do you want from the collective farm chairman? Tongue-tied ...
      Dressed in the clothes of the patron of national enterprises. In general, the move is not bad. But, as he said here on the eve of the elections in Belarus, only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 14 August 2020 12: 23 New
        -6
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.

        Absolutely agree. Arresting Lukashenka and creating a transitional government before the new elections.
        1. user1212
          user1212 14 August 2020 12: 49 New
          45
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Absolutely agree. Arresting Lukashenka and creating a transitional government before the new elections.

          As I understand it, this transitional government will include the most honest, those who are for all good, against all bad? "People from maidana of the people. "Further, part of the regions will not recognize the new government and new elections, they will try to calm them down by force, and they will take up arms. I've already seen this somewhere ...
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 14 August 2020 12: 59 New
            -23 qualifying.
            Quote: user1212
            will go

            Those who did not participate in Luke's machinations and atrocities
            Quote: user1212
            I am further part of the regions does not recognize the new government

            Judging by the unanimity against Luke, you will not wait
            1. user1212
              user1212 14 August 2020 13: 01 New
              22
              Quote: Silvestr
              Those who did not participate in Luke's machinations and atrocities

              How did I write it? "For all good against all bad" lol
              Quote: Silvestr
              Judging by the unanimity against Luke, you will not wait

              Were there polls or a referendum? Or is 50 thousand screamers the conscience of the nation? Who gave you and them the right to speak on behalf of everyone? Who and how will oblige the entire people to accept this very "provisional government" if the people refuse to do it voluntarily at least 10%?
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 22 New
                -10 qualifying.
                Quote: user1212
                Were there polls or a referendum?

                Watch reports from factories of Belarus, along with the confessions of accountants laughing
                Quote: user1212
                Or is 50 thousand screamers the conscience of the nation?

                Let's see how many of them a little later.
                1. user1212
                  user1212 14 August 2020 13: 45 New
                  +8
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Watch reports from factories of Belarus, along with the confessions of accountants

                  The journalist expresses the opinion of the one who pays him. Or did you believe in the honesty of the media?
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Let's see how many of them a little later.

                  It is more important how many of those who will not accept the results of the coup and what the new authorities will do with them
                  1. Temples
                    Temples 14 August 2020 14: 00 New
                    10
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Let's see how many of them a little later.

                    The goal of this performance is to separate another territory from Russia.

                    Let me remind you that Russian is the native language for the overwhelming majority of the population of this country.

                    Everything else is from the evil one.
                    Young people are being led one-two-three.

                    Gypsies just smoke in comparison with those experts who shake the swing in Belarus.

                    Sylvester Andreevich, man is mortal. And Luke is not eternal. Is that an argument?
                    What is needed is not a change of head.
                    Anarchy is needed.

                    I think that the people who voted for Luka understand this.
                    Therefore, their overwhelming majority.
                    The overwhelming majority in Belarus are thinking people.

                    And the children rebel.
                    They always rebel.
                    Until they grow up.
                    And this is good.

                    And adults should understand this.
                    1. Campanella
                      Campanella 15 August 2020 11: 47 New
                      +3
                      No, what are you, what to separate, they don't even have a thought!))) Just bring a little freedom and democracy!
                      So that people can make a choice between poverty in their country and work, say, for the Polish master, on his market conditions.
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 14 August 2020 15: 29 New
                    +8
                    Quote: user1212
                    It is more important how many of those who will not accept the results of the coup and what the new authorities will do with them

                    The same thing that is being done now with those who are against this power. Nothing changes who is in power and is right.
                  3. Overlock
                    Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 16 New
                    +1
                    Quote: user1212
                    It is more important how many of those who will not accept the results of the coup and what the new authorities will do with them

                    then is it worth the wait? Don't jump to conclusions?
                    1. user1212
                      user1212 15 August 2020 11: 47 New
                      0
                      Quote: Overlock
                      then is it worth the wait? Don't jump to conclusions?

                      What is not clear? If Lukashenka is overthrown, those who believe that the situation does not concern him now (like “the cops will figure it out themselves”), will refuse to trust the “provisional government” and a civil war will begin. There is no other outcome of the coup, IMHO
                  4. Campanella
                    Campanella 15 August 2020 11: 41 New
                    +1
                    Well, if the gentlemen have straw in their heads, it is useless to call upon the gentlemen to reason!
                    With shifted western propaganda
                    the consciousness of such cupcakes on a dime a dozen. They need to be disconnected from electricity and sent to the fields to weed the weeds to restore human identity.
                2. Campanella
                  Campanella 15 August 2020 11: 36 New
                  +3
                  Sylvester, what about the laws that no longer work? If the court recognizes Lukashenka's actions as unconstitutional, then it makes sense to talk about it. Don't turn Belarus into an ochlocracy!
                  Millions suffer from such well-wishers as you.
                  You see, the Polish Neksta showed them!
                  Be friends with your head, otherwise you will die apart.
                  And there will always be problems, if they are solved radically all the time, then there will not be enough heads.
              2. Rubi0
                Rubi0 14 August 2020 13: 30 New
                +2
                The passivity of the majority gives them this right
                1. user1212
                  user1212 14 August 2020 13: 43 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Rubi0
                  The passivity of the majority gives them this right

                  You tell the DPR militia that their passivity in 2014 gave the Nazis the right to kill them and people close to them
                  1. Temples
                    Temples 14 August 2020 14: 05 New
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                    Quote: Rubi0
                    The passivity of the majority gives them this right

                    The passivity of the majority makes it possible.
                    Does not give the right.
                    If the majority becomes active, the minority may simply have their legs, arms and heads cut off. Literally.
                    A truly popular revolt is not a controlled thing.
                    This crap is called a civil war.

                    And you, sir, blurted out nonsense that you spied somewhere.
                    Did you want to sound wise?
                    But it turned out to be a bunch into a puddle.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 14 August 2020 15: 30 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Temples
                      A truly popular revolt is not a controlled thing.

                      And so everything, starting with the Paris Commune.
              3. Eragon
                Eragon 14 August 2020 15: 46 New
                +2
                Quote: user1212
                Quote: Silvestr
                Those who did not participate in Luke's machinations and atrocities

                How did I write it? "For all good against all bad" lol
                Quote: Silvestr
                Judging by the unanimity against Luke, you will not wait

                Were there polls or a referendum? Or is 50 thousand screamers the conscience of the nation? Who gave you and them the right to speak on behalf of everyone? Who and how will oblige the entire people to accept this very "provisional government" if the people refuse to do it voluntarily at least 10%?

                No, there were no official polls, unofficial ones are not even. And 50 thousand is not the conscience of the nation. And at the workers of factories one can say that they are paid for. Everything is possible. But there are actions in all cities to stop the violence and recount the votes - that's a fact. But there are no actions in support of Lukashenka. And this is also a fact.
                PS You can call what is happening in Belarus "Maidan" as much as you like. But apparently many have a very short memory or lack of understanding of the Ukrainian language. Maidan is a square, and the protests in Ukraine took place in one Kiev on one square. Protests in Belarus take place everywhere, up to towns with a population of 10 thousand people. And the main demand is not Lukashenka's unconditional departure, but an open recount of votes. And certainly no one is going to Europe for lace panties and shouting that America is with us.
                1. user1212
                  user1212 14 August 2020 16: 18 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Eragon
                  But there are no actions in support of Lukashenka. And this is also a fact.

                  there were no actions in support of the Yanyk either, this did not prevent the unleashing of the war. I see no reason why it will be different now
                  Quote: Eragon
                  And the main demand is not Lukashenka's unconditional departure, but an open recount of votes.

                  And what happened after the Yanyk signed a "peace" with the "protesters"?
                  Quote: Eragon
                  And certainly no one is going to Europe for lace panties and shouting that America is with us.

                  Nobody will ask you what you want. As you are told so it will be. It seems to you that it was you who came out, it is not so. You were taken out... You do not decide anything, no one coordinates anything with you, your personal opinion is not of interest to the organizers. You don't even know the names of those who started all this, let alone their goals. People solve their political problems, you are nothing more than a tool. But it is you who will be guilty of what will happen, no matter how you come up with an excuse for yourself "I did not marry for this, I have nothing to do with it, I was deceived"
                  Or do you really believe that rallies are organized free of charge? Or that someone powerful and wealthy enough wanted to spend their money to solve YOUR problems? Santa Claus is more likely :)))
            2. Tank hard
              Tank hard 14 August 2020 13: 26 New
              11
              Quote: Silvestr
              Those who did not participate in Luke's machinations and atrocities

              About Luke's atrocities in more detail, otherwise only you know everything, only they report to you, I’m wondering what kind of atrocities he did such, with examples is desirable. repeat
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 14 August 2020 13: 55 New
                21
                Quote: Tank Hard
                More about Luke's atrocities

                On the other hand, the Belarusian riot police remember very well what the "peaceful protesters" did with "Berkut" on the Maidan in Kiev. And therefore, they do not stand on ceremony with these "onyzhedets". They can be understood. In addition, the main goal of the protesters is not some kind of "fair elections", but to undermine and destroy the state on the principle of Ukraine, tearing it away from Russia. Then to get a handout from Europe in the form of another "visa-free" and dump in Poland to work on the lord. And in Belarus, although the grass does not grow. Well, this would not have happened in history, so here's a good example from a neighbor, south of Belarus. And it happened quite recently, almost yesterday, before our eyes.
                1. Lannan Shi
                  Lannan Shi 14 August 2020 14: 09 New
                  10
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  In addition, the main goal of the protesters is not some kind of "fair elections", but to undermine and destroy the state on the principle of Ukraine, tearing it away from Russia.

                  Tin ....
                  Belarusian television showed a recording of the KGB interrogation of Yuri Voskresensky, the coordinator of the election headquarters of the ex-head of Belgazprombank Viktor Babariko
                  An associate of Babariko said that in August Bolkunets invited him to another meeting, “trumped” his ties with the head of Gazprom, Alexei Miller, and “expressed his intentions to destabilize the socio-political situation in Belarus on the eve of the elections”.
                  “At the meeting, he took out 30 thousand Russian rubles from his personal funds with the words 'this is for democracy' and advised them to transfer them for the purchase of laser pointers,” Voskresensky said and explained that the pointers were supposed to be shone at the security forces.
                  The detainee assures that he accepted the money, but on August 12 he realized that the protests "were turning into total uncontrollable chaos," and came to confess to the KGB. “I realized that I was being used as a pawn in the dark by the Moscow puppeteers,” he added and urged young people not to participate in the protests.

                  Do you even understand that this basket is now finally breaking all ties with Russia? First, the arrest of those 33x. There was not even a hint of riots yet, but he had already announced that 200 people would arrange them. 200 Russians, if chu. Now the Belarusian KGB gives out this, they say, Miller personally sponsors the riots. Do you really think that the behavior of the mustache even remotely resembles the behavior of an ally? Oha, oha. The rhetoric is 100% ripped off the states when they announced Russian interference in their elections. With such allies as lukash, there is no need for enemies.
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 14 August 2020 14: 26 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Lannan Shi
                    Do you even understand that this basket is now finally breaking all ties with Russia?

                    And who does not understand this. What a lohkashenok, what "peaceful protesters", from different sides, are doing one thing. And the collective farm chairman also has the audacity to threaten Russia. That they say, without Belarus, Russia will "howl" and "shudder" to Vladivostok. We've already seen such. On the other hand, in Belarus people feel sorry for ordinary people. Thrown under the skating rink of democracy, or under the skating rink of ambitions of a local "king" who dreams of a hereditary monarchy. And there it is not far to the "Belarusian Donbass".
                  2. Vlad.by
                    Vlad.by 14 August 2020 14: 41 New
                    +1
                    And turn on your head weakly?
                    The same political strategists will then play for freedom in Russia at the elections.
                    And then Voskresensky handed them over
                    There is a reason to clean them up in Moscow in advance
                    The usual "multi-move"
                    And Voskresensky did not just change his mind.
                    Well, it's like one of the options)
                    1. orionvitt
                      orionvitt 14 August 2020 15: 17 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Vlad.by
                      There is a reason to clean them up in Moscow in advance

                      Do you really think that nobody knows these "political strategists" by name? The whole point is that they are constantly covered and covered by some high-ranking officials from the government and parliament. Both Russia and Belarus. A real "fifth column", it is there, and not somewhere in the crowd of protesters. Just like the Kiev Maidan, it was made not at all on the street (the street, this is a picture for "non-polite" media), but surrounded by the then president. Almost everyone who was in power under Yanyka remained, but with new privileges and opportunities for the unhindered plunder of the country. These names have been known for twenty years. And when the "gifted youth" from the 95th quarter flooded, the political circus reached unprecedented heights. All bottoms are punctured. The same, I predict in Belarus. With one or another difference.
                2. Veleslav17
                  Veleslav17 14 August 2020 15: 02 New
                  -7
                  Understand your Russian Federation. We will figure it out without you. Climb everywhere like a plug. Everything will be fine with Belarus and without Luka. Everything rests not on him and not on his officials.
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 14 August 2020 15: 23 New
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                    Quote: Veleslav17
                    Everything will be fine with Belarus and without Luka

                    Nothing will be normal in Belarus anymore. Whether with a bow or without a bow. That's it, the start is given, the flywheel is spinning. Or are you in Belarus, do you think they are special? What are the smartest? Everything for you is developing strictly according to Western guidelines. So get ready to eat to the fullest. You didn’t understand the main thing, that the main mistake you made was not what you want or don’t want some kind of "fair elections", but that you have quarreled with Russia. As they say, good luck to you on the path of "democratic achievements". lol
                  2. Irokez
                    Irokez 14 August 2020 15: 41 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Veleslav17
                    Understand your Russian Federation. We will figure it out without you.

                    The Ukrainians have already figured it out. Crimea sailed away and the LDNR is fighting for freedom from fascism. So you have to climb, advise and teach a little.
                    Everything will be fine with Belarus

                    Is this a guarantee or a comfort for us? If there is a guarantee, then stop rebelling, and if calming down, then this is already a dangerous signal and putting us to sleep.
              2. Kisa
                Kisa 14 August 2020 16: 30 New
                -3
                pro-Kremlin Soloviev live look for yesterday there picturesquely - and his words - for excessive cruelty to judge the bastard
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 27 New
                  +3
                  Quote: kitty
                  pro-Kremlin Soloviev live look for yesterday there picturesquely - and his words

                  Quote: kitty
                  judge the bastard

                  cool. need to look. Changing shoes?
              3. Overlock
                Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 22 New
                +1
              4. Overlock
                Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 25 New
                +1
                Quote: Tank Hard
                More about Luke's atrocities

          2. sniperino
            sniperino 14 August 2020 16: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: user1212
            As I understand it, this transitional government will include the most honest, those who are for all good, against all bad?
            They are already at a low start: they lit candles for the State Department, distributed amphetamines good parting words, looking out of the windows into the street and waiting for signs from above ...
        2. ZAV69
          ZAV69 14 August 2020 13: 13 New
          +5
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Absolutely agree. Arresting Lukashenka and creating a transitional government before the new elections.

          Well, as always: at the expense of Russia and against Russia.
      2. Aleksandr56478
        Aleksandr56478 14 August 2020 12: 26 New
        +9
        they have already "stabilized" so much that the whole of Belarus began to strike. In general, our "chairman" seemed to have lived at that time, during the Polish strikes under Jaruzelski (the analogy is just one-to-one), but did not draw any conclusions and stepped on exactly the same rake and smashed his forehead completely.
        1. Rubi0
          Rubi0 14 August 2020 14: 02 New
          +1
          Indeed, at least for the sake of decency, an analogue of Medvedev would have been planted, and he would not have put on his eyes for 5 years. Or as in the states, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. and in between puppets
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 14 August 2020 17: 27 New
            0
            Bill Clinton was not a Bush puppet.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 14 August 2020 20: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: Sergej1972
              Bill Clinton was not a Bush puppet.
              Perhaps the Clintons and the Bushes have someone to pull the strings themselves. The conspiracy theory that these sort of family-political clans have purely economic competition in the shadow of political scandals attracting votes of voters, and they do not play big politics, does not seem to me contrary to common sense and well-known facts.
      3. mdsr
        mdsr 14 August 2020 12: 29 New
        -20 qualifying.
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.

        I wonder how, if it is the siloviki who today are the symbol of violence against the people, the punishing sword of the marasmic agrofuehrer? One of the demands of the striking workers' collectives of all large enterprises in the country is the disbandment of the OMON, the cleansing of the police and internal troops from rapists, murderers and outlaws who have put themselves outside the law, creating such horrors when carrying out the criminal orders of the usurper of power.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 August 2020 12: 36 New
          31
          they are not symbols but employees. what does violence against the people mean? what do you offer them? that they would start to burn like in Kiev? put on your knees? you even say now how to disband the OMON. purges ... as soon as this happens over the security forces, other people will take over their functions. and you don't like it. and believe me, you will remember them with nostalgia later. the state has and should have the right to violence. that the state would live on.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 14 August 2020 12: 45 New
            11
            other people will take over their functions. and oh how you don't like it. and believe me, you will remember them with nostalgia later

            Their brains do not work so deeply about this, they want to experience it for themselves. The life experience of their southern neighbors has not yet reached them.
          2. Deck
            Deck 14 August 2020 12: 54 New
            -18 qualifying.
            as soon as this happens over the security forces, other people will take over their functions. and oh, how you don't like it. and believe me, you will remember them with nostalgia later


            We will not believe it. All basic and high-quality ghouls are collected in riot police and explosives. Where in small Belarus can you find so many more bullies?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 14 August 2020 12: 57 New
              14
              yes your business. you may not believe. you are not enough examples from life. we must jump on the rake ourselves.
            2. mdsr
              mdsr 14 August 2020 13: 02 New
              -3
              Quote: Deck
              We will not believe it. All basic and high-quality ghouls are collected in riot police and explosives. Where in small Belarus can you find so many more bullies?

              As in that joke about a falling plane: "... I've been collecting you creatures for ten years in one place ")))
            3. Deck
              Deck 14 August 2020 13: 47 New
              -14 qualifying.
              Nicolae Ceausescu and Muammar Gaddafi discuss the convincing victories they won in the last elections, 1980s.

              1. cost
                cost 14 August 2020 17: 40 New
                +4
                Deck (Pertti):Nicolae Ceausescu and Muammar Gaddafi discuss the convincing victories they won in the last elections, 1980s.

                why didn't you, for example, write that they are discussing women, or the coronavirus?
                And why - the paper will endure, people grab
                Tired of already open lies and similar fakes on the forum
                This is the famous Tassov photo from September 12, 1974. "Official visit of the head of Romania Nicolae Ceausescu to Libya. 1974."
              2. Rubi0
                Rubi0 14 August 2020 18: 13 New
                +1
                While you are posting these photos Bellarus bonds fell 3% to 97% of par, despite the fact that they already have a 9% yield. Your right, of course, but with such percentages, you repeat the fate of the countries of Nicolae Ceausescu and Muammar Gaddafi. Although, of course, somewhere in Florida, pension funds will rejoice at such a successful investment
            4. keeper03
              keeper03 14 August 2020 13: 49 New
              +1
              Envy silently! bully
            5. Griffit
              Griffit 14 August 2020 14: 32 New
              +1
              Tens of thousands, it is enough to open a prison as they did in Dill.
            6. g1v2
              g1v2 14 August 2020 15: 03 New
              16
              If the ghouls served there, the corpses would have gone to hundreds. Just like in Lebanon. So far, all the "atrocities of the riot police" consist only in massacres and arrests. Moreover. that they already had 8 auto-raids. And so far, the riot police have not even shot anyone. ALREADY HORROR, HORROR. belay
              But in general, what we see in the prepared cuts, where riot police beat someone, is a German school. If anyone does not know. then the Belarusian riot police and not only were trained by the Germans. Tch what we see in Minsk is very similar to that. what the German police do in riots.
              Just like the technique Floyd used to choke on a police officer in the United States, this is Israeli technology. This policeman, along with a number of others, was training in Israel. Tch is the school there. request
              As for the beating of side mirrors, this is most likely a local find - and an extremely clever one. It is difficult to get the driver out of the driving car; you need to shoot carefully in the metropolis. And then he broke the mirror and he won't go far. Sooner or later he will be stopped. But, of course, they will make mega-monsters out of local riot police.
              In general, in the struggle of the cunning daddy with the maydauns, I root for beautiful football. Don't stop, plz. good
              And by the way, dad is right. If you also ditch the ointment, belaz.atlant and belarus potassium, it will be generally great. good Just don't touch the mzkt yet - wait about 5 years until KAMAZ begins to massively replace it with import. And then you can break. All the unprofitable collective farms must also be broken up. And they are the majority. And then in 5 years we will supply you with normal Russian milk and other products. In general, do not hold back. fellow
              1. Deck
                Deck 14 August 2020 15: 46 New
                -11 qualifying.
                But of course from the local riot police now they will make mega-monsters.


                Make tuberculosis goners in jail. To others for edification laughing
          3. New Year day
            New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 02 New
            -17 qualifying.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            that they would start to burn like in Kiev?

            And this was in Minsk? Stop nodding to Ukraine. There Maidan caught fire after being beaten by Berkut. Don't draw conclusions either - violence breeds violence
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 14 August 2020 13: 14 New
              15
              why is it not necessary to nod at Ukraine? with what such joy? this is a vivid example of what will happen if the security forces retreat from the crowd. and the example is very specific and very explicit. Where does the thought in people's heads come from that we will be different? will not be. as soon as the state abandons the monopoly on violence, then those who are stronger take this right for themselves. those who can. and more violence begins. only under their dictation. under their beliefs. it has been and always will be. even where and at any time.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 16 New
                -14 qualifying.
                Quote: carstorm 11
                this is a vivid example of what will happen if the security forces retreat from the crowd.

                This is a vivid example of how their unmotivated cruelty leads to a response. First with bells and whistles, and then we shout, we are defenders. Defenders of whom and what?
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 14 August 2020 13: 22 New
                  11
                  cruelty? I, of course, wildly apologize, but how many residents died at the hands of security officials in those very days? of course someone goes overboard. and possibly strong. but these are isolated cases. when you are dealing with a crowd, gentle patting on the shoulder does not work. Yanukovych got scared and his security officials began to simply burn and kill. brazenly. deliberately under the cameras and screams. as soon as the crowd feels blood and impunity it will immediately change. and nothing can stop her. and it is better to stuff the face with one now than then restrain the shootings with others.
                  1. Romka
                    Romka 14 August 2020 14: 57 New
                    -11 qualifying.
                    There, all the detainees were laid face down in the gym.

                    - Then two security officials decided that I was a terrorist. Maybe because I was wearing a motorcycle jacket. They dragged me into the basement. They beat me with truncheons on my legs and body for a long time. They shouted that I should tell who and how much pays me for participation in the rallies. They asked: “Why did you, a terrorist, turn off the Internet for people in the country? Why are you destroying order in Belarus? " They beat me so that I already started to chop off. They dragged me to the gym again and said, "We will continue later." But I was saved by some more adequate riot police: he pulled me to another corner. I was lying there a little alive.

                    Most of all, Dmitry was shocked by how one of the employees behaved, to whom her colleagues addressed by the name of Christina.

                    - She walked, spreading the legs of the men and aiming, in a sadistic way, beat with a club in the groin. She beat on the testicles and said: "Beasts!" One detainee - he looks about 50 years old - was beaten by the girl on the genitals, standing on his feet. He showed me later - his whole groin is blue. Christine seems to be about 30, she is short, blonde. She was wearing a uniform with a protective mask on her face.

                    According to Dmitry, Christina's cruelty was remembered by many men from those who at that moment were with him in the gym of the Frunzensky District Department of Internal Affairs.

                    Then Dmitry was transferred to a "glass" - 8 people were stuffed into a small room.

                    - During this time, eight people were given only a bottle of water. Not giving to drink is generally fascism!
                    Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/696650.html
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 14 August 2020 15: 02 New
                      11
                      I somehow lost the habit of taking Protestants at their word for a long time.
                      1. Romka
                        Romka 14 August 2020 15: 51 New
                        -6
                        There is a link, what is the name and photo of the victim.
                      2. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 14 August 2020 16: 04 New
                        +8
                        I believe in beatings. no details.
            2. Rubi0
              Rubi0 14 August 2020 13: 35 New
              +2
              There really was a betrayal on the part of the security forces, in Lvov all the regional departments simply surrendered that they did not surrender, they burned them like the SBU and the barracks of the VVshniks. The events in Kiev are already a consequence
            3. Kisa
              Kisa 14 August 2020 16: 40 New
              -3
              yes I am shocked by the local audience. I never thought that there are so many bloodthirsty people here, although please, thanks to the type of intellectuals.
              Dmitry, the more you believe in violence, the more shock you will have that Belarus will turn its back and already turned away from the cockroach. If earlier he might even have won elections and there are many moderates, now after such unjustified cruelty he simply has no chance if they start collecting some kind of petition. his people hated him
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 14 August 2020 16: 59 New
                +3
                violence is part of the life of any state. whether we want it or not. you apparently do not understand what the dispute is about. nobody says that you cannot and should not fight something. but shouting about the dispersal of riot police and security forces is a completely different path. he is nowhere. killing production from the same series. it is the destruction of your state. in the end, they will be replaced by those who will make everything worse. and they will no longer chase with truncheons, but will start shooting. what is happening now can easily turn into a coup which may not be headed by anyone. no leaders. no program. there is an aunt who fled to another country and something one says something else. and everyone understands that she is no longer talking her thoughts.
                1. Kisa
                  Kisa 14 August 2020 17: 44 New
                  -4
                  Well, they started peacefully, like your favorite Khabarovsk)) scenario. no one falsifies with a stick. they want to take something out of their own quietly by starvation. well, this is some kind of obscurantism started
                  Yes, the murder of production is bad and there are subsidies from the Russian Federation of 10 billion and the market in the Russian Federation is 60%, I myself can write that the Belarusians are totally dependent on us and they realize it. but when this bestiality began, people cease to perceive the rational. and now they react very painfully
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 14 August 2020 17: 54 New
                    +3
                    I repeat what I have already said, it is better to fill the face now than to participate in the shootings later. as for Khabarovsk it is silly to compare. different interests of those who are happy with it. final goal. although the tools are the same. even cover the same people replacing Khabarovsk with the names of other cities. I do not consider the work of security officials to be bestiality. they protect the state. tough, yes. is it worth it? undoubtedly. there are isolated cases of real excesses from them? and this must be judged. as well as the protesters who attack them.
                    1. Kisa
                      Kisa 14 August 2020 18: 06 New
                      -3
                      but this is yours - to fill the face now - this is the stone of foreknowledge. no matter how good it is set up. when a person bends down anyone perceives it painfully. and terror in the 21st century is very difficult to execute quietly and imperceptibly.
                      Probably too late to work out back to the Minister of the Interior and his yesterday's ban on excessive cruelty. at the weekend we'll see how much will happen with the Internet and unblocking the streets.
                      but it seems they released the genie
                    2. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 14 August 2020 18: 14 New
                      +2
                      disagree with that. the trouble is that all this does not have a clear leader. there are several channels that incite people. next clear example. operated from Poland. which tells you what to do and where to go. how to set up barricades and block roads. and it's not gin. this is the most common controlled chaos. and it can only be stopped by force. the Internet should have been cut off much earlier.
                    3. Kisa
                      Kisa 14 August 2020 18: 27 New
                      -2
                      the Internet is not only against the protestors - there losses in the service trade are going through the roof in 3 days.
                      Do you admit that this one (I can not call him by name) would give some scanty chance of some kind of opposition to broadcast from within the country?
                      looked for this nechta - Gordon squeezed interviews with them a day after the interview in Minsk with a cockroach. four puppies of twenty years old, all from Minsk, turned over the telegram - already the third million subscribers in a week.
                      I admit that they somehow react from this - "fill your face for the good in advance"
                    4. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 14 August 2020 18: 35 New
                      +3
                      not in advance, but in order to avoid the consequences that will be worse. Any weakness from the security forces is interpreted by the crowd slightly differently than planned. it breeds impunity. crowd psychologists are rather primitive. and this is not the opposition, sorry. it is a well-defined center for coordination. broadcasting from another country.
                    5. Kisa
                      Kisa 14 August 2020 19: 04 New
                      -1
                      ))))))))
                      I heard you.
                      and they did not answer for the opposition's chances inside the country)))
                      and from another country, the cook and the nekhta, by default, became the Navalny Kasparovites of the State Departments ...
                      if everything goes bad on the weekend and will again become large-scale - the cockroach has already abandoned the terror and does not cut the Internet .... and what tools did he have ??? of you listed.
                      recount - this is 5 years in prison for the signatories of the protocols.
                      re-voting - without a chance, he has already turned away all the moderates with this "massacre in order to avoid"
                      or terror again ???
                    6. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 14 August 2020 19: 36 New
                      +1
                      I did not answer because I don’t know the situation so much. did not follow their political life. as I consider it their business and concern. probably not. instruments? like the protesters, he has only one negotiation. at what literate. real in essence. that's just to lead them with no one. but I see a desire to make a revolution in the country by any means. which will set Belarus back 30 years. and this is at best. so Lukashenka has no choice but to crush everything.
                    7. Kisa
                      Kisa 14 August 2020 19: 54 New
                      -1
                      yes, they will probably disperse by force. They write that again military equipment is returned to Minsk - the 16th march across the country.
                      for one day they gave up violence and here are the results of thousands on the street. how long will they stand on bayonets?
                      Well, the riot police began to spread their interviews too - they are already discussing how the Minister of the Interior promised to deal with punishing those who exceeded. although there was an order as harsh as possible - again they will merge as in Nenka and the minister in white. What is it like to wave a stick for them right now?
          4. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 15 August 2020 18: 37 New
            0
            Quote: kitty
            but this is yours - to fill the face now - this is the stone of foreknowledge. no matter how good it is set up. when a person bends down anyone perceives it painfully. and terror in the 21st century is very difficult to execute quietly and imperceptibly.

            Do you think it was different in Paris? How many yellow yolks have you handled? And in the same states do you think the riots were suppressed by persuasion? In "civilized" countries, cotton wool is not rolled at all
  • dauria
    dauria 14 August 2020 13: 14 New
    15
    And this was in Minsk?

    It was eleven, Sylvester, eleven !!! deliberate raids of cars on law enforcement officers. And the "great martyr", who had a bomb in his hand - a self-made car tore a fish? And in the afternoon, girls with flowers along the road. And the girls must be called, separated and arranged in places, flowers must be bought. As if by notes, the maidanchik, and the ambassadors mourning to the "people" came out.
    Don't close your eyes to the obvious. And Lukashenka is to blame for this. He is alone. He spread the trash heap, and now he is spinning like in a frying pan.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 17 New
      -7
      Quote: dauria
      !! deliberate raids of cars on law enforcement officers.

      And how many deliberate raids by security officials? Or tell me, was it not?
      1. dauria
        dauria 14 August 2020 13: 27 New
        14
        And how many deliberate raids by security officials? Or tell me, was it not?

        What do you think should be the answer? “Sorry, could you disperse?” No, I even got into a fight “just to see” - why are you whining. Oh yes, "they are".
        1. Griffit
          Griffit 14 August 2020 14: 40 New
          +6
          People have lost the habit of thinking with their brains. That if you try to fight, you can get it back. And in general, the campaign either suckers a lot, since they do not see what they do not want to see, or puppets for grandmothers do everything they say.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 29 New
          -3
          Quote: dauria
          No, he even got into a fight "just to look" - why are you whining.

          in my opinion militiamen who were injured are whining. Your words
          Quote: dauria
          eleven !!! deliberate raids of cars on law enforcement officers.

          why be indignant, they went and knew what they were going to. True, they did not expect a response. However, no one expected her like that. So it's all over the garlic
    2. keeper03
      keeper03 14 August 2020 13: 52 New
      +9
      That's right, you have to be tougher, and not look at what the US and Europa say, he is the head of state and must fight for him and his citizens! yes
  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 14 August 2020 13: 17 New
    +7
    Quote: Silvestr
    And this was in Minsk? Stop nodding to Ukraine. There Maidan caught fire after being beaten by Berkut. Don't draw conclusions either - violence breeds violence

    How long will it take to start?
    Minsk is a rehearsal for Moscow 2024. All options will be checked
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 14 August 2020 13: 34 New
    10
    Quote: Silvestr
    There Maidan caught fire after being beaten by Berkut.

    Sylvester. such a position is usually among various liberals, Makarevichs, and Shenderovichs of various kinds, and even Svidomo. wink Who are you doctor? repeat
  • bukhach
    bukhach 14 August 2020 13: 44 New
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    they are not symbols but employees. what does violence against the people mean? what do you offer them? that they would start to burn like in Kiev? put on your knees? you even say now how to disband the OMON. purges ... as soon as this happens over the security forces, other people will take over their functions. and you don't like it. and believe me, you will remember them with nostalgia later. the state has and should have the right to violence. that the state would live on.

    Why are you fuming? Maybe this person will just be satisfied with everything and he will not suffer any nostalgia, but rather, on the contrary, he will be pleased with everything.
    1. Griffit
      Griffit 14 August 2020 14: 41 New
      +3
      It is quite possible that he will be in the forefront then
  • Overlock
    Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 28 New
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    what does violence against the people mean?

    this means violence against the people. What's not clear?
  • Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 14 August 2020 12: 44 New
    +6
    without security forces there will be anarchy
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 03 New
      -10 qualifying.
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      without security forces there will be anarchy

      And these security forces - terror
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 14 August 2020 13: 30 New
        +4
        free the streets and squares and do not hold rallies at all and no one will disperse you
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          free the streets and squares and do not hold rallies at all and no one will disperse you

          today the OMON has left and the streets are quiet and calm. People are walking. Order without riot police.
          Constitution of Belarus

          Article 35. The freedom of assembly, rallies, street processions, demonstrations and picketing, which does not violate law and order and the rights of other citizens of the Republic of Belarus, is guaranteed by the state.

          What problems?
        2. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 14 August 2020 23: 25 New
          -1
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          free the streets and squares and do not hold rallies at all and no one will disperse you

          And collars, by any chance, do not need to wear?
          Fig you.
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 14 August 2020 12: 58 New
    +7
    Quote: mdsr
    One of the demands of the striking workers' collectives of all large enterprises in the country is the disbandment of the OMON, the cleaning of the police and internal troops from

    What ??? The demand of the working collectives, you say? You're lying! (prohibited by the rules of the site) These are the dreams of yours and your owners, and not the demands of work collectives. What has worked for you in Ukraine will not work in Belarus, do not hope. No matter how bad "but father" may be, you can't give up your power either. Destroy the country.
    1. mdsr
      mdsr 14 August 2020 13: 06 New
      -6
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      What ??? The demand of working collectives, you say? You're lying!

      [[/ Center]



      Enough or more to lay out? There is also a video recording of these requirements by working groups.
      1. gyroscope
        gyroscope 14 August 2020 13: 20 New
        13
        I'll rivet such a piece of paper in five minutes
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 14 August 2020 13: 42 New
          -6
          Quote: Gyroscope
          I'll rivet such a piece of paper in five minutes

          And such?
          https://t.me/nexta_live/7780
          https://t.me/nexta_live/7734
          1. Griffit
            Griffit 14 August 2020 14: 44 New
            +6
            I also found a source of information. First, tell me what this NEXTA is for.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 14 August 2020 13: 24 New
        11
        the test is printed and I can throw off you angry) and you shouldn't make screenshots from the Polish garbage can. it's kind of stupid.
        1. Romka
          Romka 14 August 2020 13: 46 New
          -1
          Guys, turn on here.by, there are online reports of the protests. The slogan is one "Go away!"
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 35 New
            0
            Quote: Romka
            Guys, turn on here.by, there are online reports of the protests. The slogan is one "Go away!"

            don't waste your time. They are locked in on the EU and US threat. They don't even believe their glazes
      3. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 14 August 2020 13: 37 New
        +8
        The security forces are tearing their ass at least for the state, but those who throw Molotov cocktails at them at night the better?
        Didn't Ukrainian history teach people anything?
        All the kotovasia is due to wresting the state from one zone of influence to another, from one market to another. Specifically, to tear them away from Russia.
        Loot steers.
        Well, they will become an independent protectorate of Poland (it’s something from Poland that comes to the result of deification, encouraging Protestants and throwing fakes), well, they will get a couple of silk panties more, and then?
        Will they go to clean the toilets and pick strawberries? Or do they think Russia will continue to drive oil and gas at the lowest prices?
        I am not making excuses for Lukashenka (80% of him is idiocy) and some security officials from the plow.
        But, I can imagine what kind of “goat's face” my grandfather showed that riot policeman, who got a club on the forehead and what he said before he was tied down.
        I do not justify the riot policemen who beat a lying civilian with a club - they are brutes.
        But the grandfather, the “freedom fighter”, provoked them 100%, and he is no less an “unwise person”!
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 14 August 2020 13: 48 New
          -13 qualifying.
          Quote: Vlad.by
          Security officials tear ass at least for the state

          For the agrofuehrer, although we must serve the people.
          Quote: Vlad.by
          and those that throw Molotov cocktails into them at night the better?

          Show me at least one Molotov cocktail thrown by the Belarusians into the punishers. Otherwise, you are just an ordinary liar
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 14 August 2020 13: 51 New
            +9
            yes on your nekst even such videos are. )
            1. The comment was deleted.
          2. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 14 August 2020 13: 56 New
            +9
            Quote: Vlad.by
            and those that throw Molotov cocktails into them at night the better?

            Show me at least one Molotov cocktail thrown by the Belarusians into the punishers. Otherwise, you are just an ordinary liar

            I even see footage from the fields in the news, not to mention the Internet. Strong boys, with bottles in their hands and shouting "set fire"

            www.yandex.by/video/touch/preview?filmId=6077363589242531746&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DG77sYoJl2aw&text=%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B5%20%D0%B2%20%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B5%20%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%82%20%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BB%D0%B8%20%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%20%D0%B8%20%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%B8%20%D0%B2%20%D0%9E%D0%9C%D0%9E%D0%9D&path=sharelink

            Do you think it is in your couch?
          3. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 14 August 2020 19: 25 New
            +1
            I saw the interrogation of the arrested person on the news. He said that he was stocking gasoline and bottles for a cocktail. The siloviki have done well to prevent the violence.
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 14 August 2020 13: 48 New
          +7
          It looks like she didn't teach. They think Lukashenka will leave and a golden rain will fall, each will be given 4 farm laborers from the country.
        3. keeper03
          keeper03 14 August 2020 13: 57 New
          +4
          100%, when they wave their clubs, throw cocktails, there is no time to figure it out! request
        4. Griffit
          Griffit 14 August 2020 14: 46 New
          -6
          Lukash 30 years new meat against Russia to grow, now this meat has rebelled against him.
      4. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 14 August 2020 15: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: mdsr
        Enough or more to lay out? There is also a video recording of these requirements by working groups.

        All these demands are demands of irresponsible people. Those who formulated these requirements are the enemy of Belarus and its people, those who supported them are naive people subject to emotions, not reason.
        This is the first step towards the destruction of statehood. Which is very beneficial for the West.
        If the people leading the protests thought about the future of the state, and not about how to "topple" Lukashenko, they would have created a group for negotiations with Lukashenko and would have achieved a meeting with him. And in a calm atmosphere, they would make a joint decision - how to get out of the political crisis without destroying the state.
        Another path is the path of self-destruction. This is a sharp drop in living standards.
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 14 August 2020 15: 22 New
          -11 qualifying.
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          All these demands are demands of irresponsible people. Those who formulated these requirements are the enemy of Belarus and its people

          What's in your head ??? The Belarusian people no longer want this senile and criminal to be their president. This is their right! Do not meddle with them with your clever advice. They can see better, you don't live there.
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          If the people leading the protests thought about the future of the state, and not about how to "topple" Lukashenko, they would have created a group for negotiations with Lukashenko and would have achieved a meeting with him. And in a calm atmosphere, they would make a joint decision - how to get out of the political crisis without destroying the state.

          What planet are you from ??? I'm really scared for you. Which groups? Hey! Where is Tikhanovsky now? Where is Babariko? Where are the previous candidates? Here, even when the people elected another president, they did not want to give up power and organized terror over their citizens. Are you writing about some group here? belay
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 14 August 2020 15: 30 New
            +9
            Quote: mdsr

            What's in your head ??? The Belarusian people no longer want this senile and criminal to be their president. This is their right! Not

            1. The Ukrainian "people", and there were at most 7% of them on the Maidan, also did not want Yanukovych. What did you get? Complete chaos and war! Do you dream about it?
            2. Who determined that Lukashenka is a criminal? What kind of court? Or are you our judge here? Aren't you taking on a lot?
            3. Who gave you the right to broadcast here on behalf of the Belarusian people?
      5. dauria
        dauria 14 August 2020 15: 13 New
        +5
        Enough or more to lay out?


        This is NEXTA again. Made in Poland. A henchman for their money. And here's a laugh - well, they don't go on strike in factories, that's the problem. And the police are not from Mars. The same Belarusians, with families, parents and children. And not brutal aliens from another galaxy.
        And why the hell should a whole people dance to the tune of youngsters, fed and excited from behind the hill? Sewn with white thread, the script and techniques are familiar to yawn. Even your internet brother can be seen a mile away. Do you really hope? Yes, there is something more abruptly at stake besides your wishes or fees. Strategic security of Russia. Even if the dad freaks out, Putin still remains.
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 14 August 2020 15: 31 New
          -9
          Quote: dauria
          This is NEXTA again. Made in Poland. A henchman for their money

          Is this how Belarus or Poland is shown? Or was it filmed in Hollywood? laughing
          Quote: dauria
          And here's a laugh - well, they don't strike in factories, that's the problem

          ALL factories, factories, construction organizations, meat processing plants, furniture factories, thermal power plants, water utilities, energy companies, doctors, cultural workers, teachers, etc. are already on strike. But in your reality, butterflies and aliens are still flying. Like children, if they close their eyes and see nothing, they think that nothing is happening lol
          1. dauria
            dauria 14 August 2020 15: 55 New
            +6
            ALL factories are already on strike

            That's the trouble ... laughing
            Stop lying, dear. Or are you just "at work"? Then go on.

            Concern "Belneftekhim" today did not confirm that oil refineries and "Grodno Azot" joined the nationwide strike.
            The press secretary of the concern, Alexander Tishchenko, was forced to make a statement that the information about the strike was untrue.
            “These messages are an attempt to wishful thinking. The enterprises of the concern are operating normally. There is no such thing, these are rumors, ”said Tishchenko.


            No strike at the Belarusian NPP, contrary to the statements of a number of Belarusian Telegram channels, is being held - everything is calm at the station.


            http://eadaily.com:8080/ru/news/2020/08/14/atomnyy-feyk-na-belorusskoy-aes-oprovergayut-soobshcheniya-o-zabastovke
            https://officelife.media/news/19416-belneftekhim-denies-participation-of-the-refinery-and-the-grodno-azot-in-a-national-strike/
  • vlad106
    vlad106 14 August 2020 13: 34 New
    +9
    Quote: mdsr
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.

    I wonder how, if it is the siloviki who today are the symbol of violence against the people, the punishing sword of the marasmic agrofuehrer? One of the demands of the striking workers' collectives of all large enterprises in the country is the disbandment of the OMON, the cleansing of the police and internal troops from rapists, murderers and outlaws who have put themselves outside the law, creating such horrors when carrying out the criminal orders of the usurper of power.


    yeah, remove the law enforcement agencies and give the green light to the pseudo-democrats of the State Department, fascists and thieves?
    then it’s as if the fraternal country will be taken to the western channel.
    and the industry will be plundered by "effective managers" who are just waiting for the slightest opportunity ...
    do we need another Skakuasia?
  • Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 14 August 2020 14: 37 New
    +2
    Deng Xiaoping found the strength and courage to roll out the incipient turmoil in tanks in 1989. But the blood of the victims (including those who were accidental) was not wasted, the country was saved. Modern China has certainly become what it is, including as a result of the dispersal of unrest on the night of June 4, 1989.
  • sniperino
    sniperino 14 August 2020 17: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: mdsr
    siloviki are today a symbol of violence
    The main thing is that the security forces do not become a symbol of powerlessness, as they know where else.
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 14 August 2020 12: 31 New
    -3
    And that, the option of the Latin American junta is not excluded.
  • businessv
    businessv 14 August 2020 12: 50 New
    11
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Dressed in the clothes of the patron of national enterprises.

    He is not a defender! He is the one who did not let these enterprises be destroyed, kept their collectives and consistently modernizes them! Can you name at least one such president? Today, 37% of working people work at these enterprises, and the income does not go into the personal pockets of the oligarchs, but directly to the budget. Approach your father's assessment carefully, please do not distort the facts!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 13: 02 New
      -1
      Quote: businessv
      Approach your father's assessment carefully, please do not distort the facts!

      Save your wife's emotions ...
      Such statements to the public during the period of the most acute crisis in the country cannot be called anything other than self-promotion.
      Quote: businessv
      He is not a defender! He is the one who did not let these enterprises be destroyed, kept their collectives and consistently modernizes them! Can you name at least one such president? Today, 37% of working people work at these enterprises, and the income does not go into the personal pockets of the oligarchs, but directly to the budget.

      The economy of the Republic of Belarus is ineffective. Everyone knows about it. The products manufactured at the enterprises of the Republic of Belarus are not competitive in the market of developed countries. Regular loans are required. Preferably from Russia. On preferential terms. We are brothers, aren't we?
      We read about oligarchs here in the fall of 2013. About Russian and Ukrainian. Nothing has changed since then.
      The main oligarch in Belarus is the state. Such is the structure of the state there.
      1. businessv
        businessv 14 August 2020 13: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Save your wife's emotions ...

        It is not for you to indicate where and for what purpose I need to use my emotions, especially since they were not in my post.
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The economy of the Republic of Belarus is ineffective. Everyone knows about it.
        Where did you get this information? RB is in 3rd place among the former republics of the Union, and this is given the fact that it has no natural resources! This is the first indicator of economic stability!
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The main oligarch in Belarus is the state. Such is the structure of the state there.

        Do you hear yourself, dear? laughing What kind of "structure of the state" I know clearly better than yours in view of the fact that I do not write such nonsense!
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Regular loans are required.
        Anyone, even the most advanced business, needs regular loans because, in addition to direct production, it is necessary to renovate production, conduct market research, develop new products and much more, but it seems to me that you do not understand this, judging by your posts.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 14 August 2020 15: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: businessv
          Where did you get this information? RB is in 3rd place among the former republics of the Union, and this is given the fact that it has no natural resources! This is the first indicator of economic stability!

          8 billion dollars a year from Russia (data from DAM) is an indicator of stability. This is despite the fact that it all started in the early 2000s with 0,5-1 billion evergreens per year.
          Quote: businessv
          Anyone, even the most advanced business, needs regular loans because, in addition to direct production, it is necessary to renovate production, conduct market research, develop new products and much more, but it seems to me that you do not understand this, judging by your posts.

          А advanced business Are these loans going to return? Or is he hoping for refinancing again? So that's it - there will be no more free money ..
          The largest debtor to Russia is Belarus - $ 7,55 billion as of June 1, 2019
          Since 2012, Belarus' debt to Russia has doubled. But in the summer of 2019, Moscow for the first time in recent years refused to refinance the current portion of the Belarusian debt (First Deputy Prime Minister Anton Siluanov said in June that Moscow expects Minsk to take steps towards economic integration).

          Belarus owed more to the Russian Federation in 2019 than Ukraine and Venezuela combined.
          1. Liam
            Liam 14 August 2020 15: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexey RA
            8 billion dollars a year from Russia

            Quote: Alexey RA
            The largest debtor to Russia is Belarus - $ 7,55 billion as of June 1, 2019

            So they take 8 yards a year for 20 years and currently only need 7,5 yards? This is a very good credit history if anything
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 14 August 2020 17: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: Liam
              So they take 8 yards a year for 20 years and currently only need 7,5 yards? This is a very good credit history if anything

              7,5 billion is debt on direct loans. And 8 billion a year is the total amount, including loans, discounts and other preferences.
              1. Liam
                Liam 14 August 2020 17: 42 New
                +2
                7,5 yards of debt over 20 years of allegedly almost keeping Belarus by Russia is not even a penny. The EU gives such figures to Ukraine per year)
          2. Liam
            Liam 14 August 2020 15: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Belarus owed more to Russia in 2019 than Ukraine and Venezuela combined

            Come on, catching up with passion. 7 yards, a little more than half the cost of an unfinished pipe SP-2 or an idle Turkish Stream)
          3. businessv
            businessv 16 August 2020 19: 21 New
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            8 billion dollars a year from Russia (data from DAM) is an indicator of stability. This is despite the fact that it all started in the early 2000s with 0,5-1 billion evergreens per year.
            You are in trouble with arithmetic, not to mention the fact that international loans are the safest and easiest money for banks! They also poured 10 lard of greenery into the square, but this does not mean that, as you think, they simply "gave" them, these were loans and investments, so do not confuse colleagues, dear! Even if, in your opinion, we calculate 0,5 billion a year, then this is already 10, and for some reason the debt is 7,55 (and this is for 20 years), but I remind you once again that this is a DEBT, and not "handouts for stability "by" 8 billion a year ", as you write!
      2. Griffit
        Griffit 14 August 2020 14: 50 New
        +1
        This structure is everywhere all over the world. Do you think that business is honest in the West? In the US, 1% of the population owns 90% of the country's total property.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 14 August 2020 14: 05 New
    -8
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    But, as he said here on the eve of the elections in Belarus, only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.

    Is it like in Hungary?

    Or in Prague?

    Or Berlin?

    Do you want it?
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 14: 14 New
      -2
      Personally, I like Surikov's painting "Execution of Streltsy on Red Square on a May Morning" ...
      fellow
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 14 August 2020 15: 03 New
        -2
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Personally, I like Surikov's painting "The Execution of Streltsy on Red Square on a May Morning".

        A family lived in one place.
        It's time to marry my daughter.
        And in the town there are two suitors, one don Juan (in Russian this is another word), and the other a thief.
        And my mother went to the rabbi to get advice. The door was opened by his wife and said that the rabbi was not and would not be soon, the woman began to cry and the rabbi's wife asked what trouble you have. The woman told all that one groom is don Juan, and the other is a thief. To which the rabbi's wife said
        AS ON MY LOOK AND ON MY TASTE
        Let me be fucked 10 times (another word in Russian) than robbed once.
        So
        КAK ON MY LOOK AND ON MY TASTE
        To die under an ax or under a tank is the same thing.
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 38 New
      -2
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      Do you want it?

      they want, they think that flowers and bread and salt are waiting for them there. Something I doubt it
  • forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 14 August 2020 15: 08 New
    -2
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.

    Of course they can disperse the protesters. But to drive the strikers to work is a more difficult task.
  • alexmach
    alexmach 14 August 2020 18: 02 New
    0
    only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.

    The campaign has already stabilized nowhere further
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 14 August 2020 19: 19 New
    +1
    Belarus, only the security forces can stabilize the situation in the country.

    Thatcher did not intend to replace the workers with an army. Order was restored immediately.
  • Labrador
    Labrador 14 August 2020 12: 21 New
    +3
    Cheeks then he blows for now. Let's see how this bird will sing when the gas discount is needed.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 12: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: Labrador
      Cheeks then he blows for now. Let's see how this bird will sing when the gas discount is needed

      First, he needs to restore order in the country. We must live up to gas discounts ...
      1. mdsr
        mdsr 14 August 2020 12: 36 New
        -13 qualifying.
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Quote: Labrador
        Cheeks then he blows for now. Let's see how this bird will sing when the gas discount is needed

        First, he needs to put things in order in the country ...
        He was already aiming. This tyrant is a political corpse in Belarus. Even those 13% who voted for him, after witnessing all this violence, turned their backs on him. Already the police and propaganda officers, the presidential administration, city halls, etc. write letters of resignation as a sign of extreme indignation.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 12: 50 New
          12
          Quote: mdsr
          He was already aiming. This tyrant is a political corpse in Belarus. Even those 13% who voted for him, after witnessing all this violence, turned their backs on him

          Monya ...
          Leave your fabrications for the Bandera brothers.
          Yarosh has already boasted that he himself trained "peaceful protesters", came to you, gave valuable advice and recommendations. That is why the ranks of "dissent" consist of strong guys aged from 23 to 30 years.
          15% of votes for Tikhanovskaya were cast in Minsk. Only this housewife shoots to Lithuania.
          The violence on the streets was provoked by sent Cossacks without a specific nationality.
          All this your struggle for "Happiness of the Byalorusskogo naroda" will come to you sideways. GrygorYch will not compromise. He remembers Allende's experience, but he will not go to Rostov.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 05 New
            -4
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Only this housewife shoots to Lithuania.

            Where would you jerk if a gun was put in your wife's head? What would you agree to? I think for everything
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 13: 14 New
              +4
              Quote: Silvestr
              Where would you jerk if a gun was put in your wife's head? What would you agree to? I think for everything

              First, there was nothing to meddle in politics without understanding anything about it. Taking pictures of posters is one thing. Answering to voters is another matter.
              Secondly. Who and where and what put - the question.
              And third. Don't make a victim out of the housewife. This fool was used in the dark. She herself only knows how to give cutlets.
              PS
              Do not pretend to be a lawyer for the lawless. We have been on the site for a long time, and we know the positions of every forum member. If riot police disperse the crowd, then it is necessary. Russia went through this period in 2012 at Bolotnaya, and the other day, in the summer of 2019. Everyone knows whose ears stick out behind the "patriots" of Russia. Hodor with accomplices and Kaspar frostbitten under the guise of "saviors of the nation".
              In the Byalorus family, Aleksievich was carried in their arms. Well, the writer, loves the country and the people ...
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 19 New
                -2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                This fool was used in the dark.

                She went for it to save her husband.
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                If riot police disperse the crowd, then it must be so.

                Well then, do not be surprised by the subsequent events. Even in dispersing the crowd, you need to think with your head
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 13: 59 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  This fool was used in the dark.

                  She went for it to save her husband.

                  Well, how much can you?
                  Do you know the topic of sacred sacrifice? Did the Heavenly Hundred not inspire you? The best way to save a life is to keep her man in prison. And let him say thank you for being alive, otherwise it would have become an analogue of amerovsky black Floyd in the Belarusian version.
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Well then, do not be surprised by the subsequent events. Even in dispersing the crowd, you need to think with your head

                  Why be surprised? What were the provocateurs pulled out of the crowd? Remind you of the "festivities in Moscow" last summer? Don't you remember that bastard who clung to the baby to avoid detention?
                  Or are the riot policemen and the VV not real people? Or are they not given tasks and methods on the eve of a military operation?
                  Belarus is a state allied to us. I would like it, Belarus, to remain a state with all the necessary and signs of a state, not a state formation.
                  Yes, Grygorich is not himself. It was seen for a long time ...
                  But any stability is better than any revolution in any form.
                2. Liam
                  Liam 14 August 2020 14: 09 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Even in dispersing the crowd, you need to think with your head


                  Minsk... Protests by law enforcement agencies against the arbitrariness of passers-by continue.
            2. Labrador
              Labrador 14 August 2020 13: 32 New
              +1
              And politics is not the place where everyone is brought up on a saucer. The trigger is not pulled - already good. No one gets power just like that and, having received it, no one will just give it up!
            3. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 14 August 2020 13: 45 New
              +4
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Only this housewife shoots to Lithuania.

              Where would you jerk if a gun was put in your wife's head? What would you agree to? I think for everything

              So Tikhanovskaya is still of the wrong orientation?
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 14 August 2020 12: 43 New
      +3
      He would have to disperse the Soros fosterlings to begin with, and the gas only later.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 06 New
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: Incvizitor
        He should disperse the Soros fosterlings

        Are you talking about the hard workers of Belarus?
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 14 August 2020 13: 08 New
          +4
          Hard workers actually work lol
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 14 August 2020 13: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: Labrador
      Let's see how this bird will sing when the gas discount is needed.

      Not thinking about that, friend Labrador. We need to think about how Belarus does not slide into the abyss, following the example of Ukraine.
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 14 August 2020 12: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    But father doesn't know who to blame!
    Who is closer there - pass the mirror to him!

    He accuses the “savages” at the rallies, of undermining the country's industries. And about the possibility of competitors to occupy the BR market. In my opinion, everything is logical, he is busy analyzing what is happening, in contrast to you trolls, forcing turbidity on what is happening.
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      2. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 14 August 2020 12: 42 New
        +6
        In my opinion, everything is logical, he is busy analyzing what is happening
        Bravo! good Potato analyzer laughing


        Well, there is nothing to oppose to you, well, be silent then in a rag, why roll down to insults. What would you do?
    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 14 August 2020 12: 38 New
      +2
      Oo-oo one-button ones flew like vultures on fresh. The site has disappeared.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 14 August 2020 12: 47 New
        -2
        Never mind, there are a lot of them here only in the morning. There is no need to knock a big mind on the keyboard with your fingers.
    3. Roman246810
      Roman246810 14 August 2020 12: 42 New
      -12 qualifying.
      He blames the "savages"


      There are reports from Belarus that more and more enterprises are joining the strike. It became known that the so-called "Italian strike" (when people come to work, but refuse to work - until the requirements are met) were supported by ordinary employees of one of the largest automobile plants in Belarus - BelAZ. It is a company with an annual turnover of over 900 million euros and a number of employees of at least 10 thousand people.


      10 thousand savages in one enterprise ..))
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 14 August 2020 12: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Roman246810
        He blames the "savages"


        There are reports from Belarus that more and more enterprises are joining the strike. It became known that the so-called "Italian strike" (when people come to work, but refuse to work - until the requirements are met) were supported by ordinary employees of one of the largest automobile plants in Belarus - BelAZ. It is a company with an annual turnover of over 900 million euros and a number of employees of at least 10 thousand people.


        10 thousand savages in one enterprise ..))


        Yes, you can write at least 100 thousand, paper suffers. Only the enterprises are not standing, they are working. Despite all your attempts and fakes on the network.
        1. Roman246810
          Roman246810 14 August 2020 13: 25 New
          -2
          do not stand, but work


          Senka .. you're not comfortable trying on a hat ..))



          1. Senka naughty
            Senka naughty 15 August 2020 01: 27 New
            -1
            Senka .. you're not comfortable trying on a hat ..))

            laughing A photo of the test, from the one taking pictures to the blue building, 100-150 meters, and the back rows of the "crowd" are reduced to such a size as if they were at a distance of 400-500 meters. Show all these photoshop photos to the children, in the place with the video, where a crowd of idiots wearing overalls goes to a dead end near some kind of prom. building. Better not show it to anyone, don't make people laugh.
      2. businessv
        businessv 14 August 2020 12: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Roman246810
        10 thousand savages in one enterprise ..))

        Among these 10000 workers, there are a lot of normal people who would just like to work! But they are being dragged into a stupid confrontation, without presenting any imputed demands to the government and the president, except for "but father leave." What will happen after his departure is not difficult to predict - the square is not far away and everything is in full view. Another anti-Russia with all the consequences, only much worse in economic terms. Most of the strikers do not yet understand how well they live in their country!
        1. Roman246810
          Roman246810 14 August 2020 13: 17 New
          -6
          a lot of normal people who would just like to work!

          Everyone would just like to work .. And just choose their own president ..

          But they get sucked in


          Yes, yes .. yesterday they wrote about 1% of "savages" in the country ..
          And this 1% in this enterprise made everyone go on strike straight ..))

          into a blunt confrontation
          For you, it may be stupid .. And for people, this is the only way to get through to the authorities ..

          without making any imputed requirements
          That's what you think..
          And they have requirements .. they didn’t just refuse to work and sit ..

          It's easy to predict what will happen after he leaves
          Well, everything .. then we must immediately crown him, and let him rule to death .. why did they hold elections at all ?? After all, you cannot change .. you have already foreseen what will happen then ..

          Most of the strikers don't understand yet
          Yeah .. only we are smart here in Russia we understand everything for them ..))

          how well they live in their country!
          Not bad..
          Interesting wording ..
          But we did not live well in 85 under Gorbachev, or was it not bad ??)
          1. yustas
            yustas 14 August 2020 13: 49 New
            0
            At 85 it was still normal, somewhere by 87 it was getting worse and worse
            1. Roman246810
              Roman246810 14 August 2020 13: 59 New
              -4
              it got worse and worse
              But still "not bad" .. in language businessv (Vadim))))
          2. businessv
            businessv 17 August 2020 22: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Roman246810
            You think so .. For you, maybe stupid ..
            You will poke your wife in the navel, if you will, I don’t need to! I don't debate with people like you! hi
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 49 New
          -1
          Quote: businessv
          But they are being dragged into a stupid confrontation, without presenting any imputed demands to the government and the president, except for "but father leave."

          you are not right. Clear requirements6
          1. recount of votes
          2.Investigation of the atrocities of riot police
          3. to release all political prisoners
          if not, then "Go away".
          In my opinion, it is very reasonable in this situation, is not it?
          1. businessv
            businessv 17 August 2020 22: 29 New
            -1
            Quote: Overlock
            2.Investigation of the atrocities of riot police
            3. to release all political prisoners
            if not, then "Go away".

            Well, you will agree that these requirements arose after the fact! After unauthorized rallies, as a result of which all these requirements occurred. Have you seen how the protesters behaved towards the riot police? And what was the last thing left to do in your opinion? We talk a lot about "riot police atrocities", but not a word about how the police operate in the cradle of democracy - the States. Do you want us to be like that? So that the police first shoot and then say "stop" !? Well, and on the first point, there is no need to gather rallies, it is enough just to file an application with the court on a specific site with violations, for which the protocols have been drawn up. What is happening in Belarus is another classic color revolution.
      3. K-612-O
        K-612-O 14 August 2020 13: 24 New
        0
        Of which 1,5 hundreds are on strike. And so at all enterprises, several dozen, hundreds of people rage, and they are presented as no one knows what.
        1. Roman246810
          Roman246810 14 August 2020 13: 35 New
          -6
          According to the newspaper, workers in Grodno Azot demand that all detained prisoners be released within an hour. Came to the workers Mayor Grodno. The general director of the enterprise says that they will try to answer all the questions.

          Naftan's employees said they intend to put forward demands to the leadership today. A meeting with the management is planned, and by 12.00 arrival is planned the mayor Novopolotsk.

          According to the employees of the MTZ enterprise, the management announced that today at MTZ the prime minister intends to come.

          About 400 people gathered near the new plant management of BMZ. The director came out to the workers. Workers are waiting governor.

          BMZ workers gathered at their enterprise today. The workers of the Minsk Electrotechnical Plant also gathered.

          Workers of the State Enterprise Minsk Metro are preparing for a strike.


          Because of 1,5 hundred, measures with the governors are going to them, and already a whole prime minister gathered ..))
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 14 August 2020 13: 43 New
            +2
            There are no governors in Belarus, just in case.
            1. Roman246810
              Roman246810 14 August 2020 13: 52 New
              -4
              This radically changes everything ..))
              Although, Lukashenka is still not aware of this, like me ..

              “The region is large, it is half the country. I cannot say that the area has succeeded in its development. You probably felt it while working as an assistant. But each governor brought something to the development of the Minsk region, ”the president said.

              The head of state noted that Anatoly Isachenko knows all the relevant work vertically and has the necessary experience.

              “I would very much like you to succeed in the Minsk region. You can count on me when you need help. Understand on the spot, look at the situation again, from this height. Report your plans to the Council of Deputies. Tell us in which direction we will act, ”Alexander Lukashenko added.
              Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/549856.html
            2. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 14 August 2020 23: 23 New
              0
              Quote: K-612-O
              There are no governors in Belarus, just in case.

              but he is not Belarusian, just in case wink
  • askort154
    askort154 14 August 2020 12: 57 New
    +3
    The leader of the Redskins.....Yes, father doesn't know who to blame!
    Who is closer there - pass the mirror to him!


    The mirror won't help. No. Shifting through all the chairs, not understanding which is more stable.
    I would like the well-being of Belarus, did not cling to a wobbling chair, but prepared a worthy successor (not Kolya). This is also Russia's fault, because we do not pay attention to the "preparation of candidates" in the former Soviet republics. The United States brazenly imprisons their own all over the world, not only for "loot", but also by coups. As a result, our camp of "allies" is thinning every decade. Here we are clearly losing. If Lukashenka does not hold out, then definitely, he will be replaced by the US protégé, by the hands of Poland and the Balts. hi
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 14 August 2020 13: 40 New
      +1
      According to Gene Sharp's manual of velvet revolutions, Belarus is now between 100 and 120 points. There are only 198 of them. In theory, after the strike, it goes on:

      - refusal to cooperate with the authorities and state institutions (not yet visible)
      - exclusion from international organizations (Western curators and Tsepkalo are already working on this)
      - blocking everything and everyone (do not leave transport, stand at pedestrian crossings, etc.)
      - overload of the administrative system (tested on mass complaints to the CEC)
      - the creation of a parallel government and sovereignty (the exiled government of Tikhanovskaya-Tsepkalo-Prokopyev, recognition of the pagoni and the bchb as symbols of the "new Belarus")

      And that's it, the end. Or rather, the beginning of chaos. After such revolutions, he was and will always be.
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 14 August 2020 23: 32 New
        -1
        Quote: K-612-O
        expulsion from international organizations

        yes he seems to be mainly in alliances created with Russia is .. where and who will exclude?
        Quote: K-612-O
        blocking everything and everyone

        Duc for a long time .. only Russia can block him wink
        Quote: K-612-O
        creation of parallel government and sovereignty

        well it can .. Belarusian Guaido-Tihanovskaya laughing
        Quote: K-612-O
        And that's it, the end. Or rather, the beginning of chaos. After such revolutions, he was and will always be.

        very doubtful .. this is a Pshek project, not the USA. wrong scope and wrong resources. request
        but the fact that dad so revealingly pinched his balls while trying to sit on two chairs is good. yes I hope the Ukrainian Natsiks are smart enough to clean up ...
  • vkl.47
    vkl.47 14 August 2020 13: 44 New
    -5
    What a stupid Selyuk he is.
  • Sibguest
    Sibguest 14 August 2020 13: 52 New
    +2
    Looking in the mirror, he will say: Russia is to blame.
    His brain simply does not function otherwise.
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  • Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 14 August 2020 18: 14 New
    0
    he. He dug a hole for himself, allowing lawlessness to the police. I have a bunch of relatives in Belarus, who used to be a mountain for him, talked with them yesterday. So after his statement about the people, as about rednecks, drug addicts and alcoholics, after watching what the policemen are doing with beatings and torture, shooting the civilians: their words - "it's time to dig out grandfather's stash"
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Shelest2000
      He dug a hole for himself, allowing lawlessness to the police. I have a bunch of relatives in Belarus, who used to be a mountain for him, talked with them yesterday. So after his statement about the people, as about rednecks, drug addicts and alcoholics, after watching what the policemen are doing with beatings and torture, shooting the civilians: their words - "it's time to dig out grandfather's stash"

      it is a pity that they simply do not understand this here.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 14 August 2020 12: 12 New
    -3
    a parody of Yanukovych
    1. freejack
      freejack 14 August 2020 14: 10 New
      +1
      a parody of Yanukovych

      And Yanukovych, and father, and all the other leaders of the post-Soviet republics (who were overthrown after the next Maidan) .... and Gaddafi. All were overthrown after the terrible word "multi-vector" ... Sitting on two chairs leads to a political noose ... yes
      And what about ours? ... Exactly repeats the mistakes of theirs ... And he seems to love us (he indulges in all sorts of parades) and declares about the need for "liberal opposition" ... The economic wing in the government ??? am
      It's somehow uncomfortable for me now ... Shall we hold out for another year? wink
  • Alien From
    Alien From 14 August 2020 12: 12 New
    +4
    Someone specifically took on the father, the feeling is that he himself got confused ...
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 14 August 2020 12: 23 New
      -6
      I wanted it to be GDP ... tp. indicative flogging for the "dynamo" to unite our countries.
      1. Roman246810
        Roman246810 14 August 2020 12: 39 New
        -11 qualifying.
        show spanking for Dynamo unification


        Since January, Belarusians will not be able to avoid the temptation to enter into an alliance with our great power ..


        The minimum wage in 2021 will be increased by 262 rubles
        Today in 7: 05
        As you know, the minimum wage for the next calendar year is set in an amount equal to the subsistence minimum of the working-age population in the second quarter of the current year.

        Now the minimum wage is 12 130 rubles.

        On the eve of the Ministry of Labor posted a draft order "On establishing the value of the subsistence minimum per capita and for the main socio-demographic groups of the population as a whole in the Russian Federation for the II quarter of 2020".

        According to the document, the subsistence minimum of the working-age population for the 2nd quarter of 2020 amounted to 12 rubles.

        Thus, in 2021 the minimum wage will be 12 392 rubles.


        This is checkmate from our great grandmaster !!
      2. mdsr
        mdsr 14 August 2020 12: 44 New
        -12 qualifying.
        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        I wanted it to be GDP ... tp. indicative flogging for the "dynamo" to unite our countries.

        Do not worry. Our propaganda will present all this as another HSP. Since the transformation of Ukraine into the main enemy of Russia could be presented as a great achievement, then the loss of Belarus will even more so be presented as getting rid of another dependent on the neck of the Russian budget winked
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 08 New
        -8
        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        indicative flogging for the "dynamo" to unite our countries.

        Comrade Si-against
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 14 August 2020 12: 45 New
      +1
      It's not just that the western rot regularly throws in big grandmothers, they have been preparing all this for a long time and now they are working out.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 14 August 2020 14: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      Someone specifically took on the father, the feeling is that he himself got confused ...

      he was the first to be confused by the chief security officer, it was with his submission to Lukashesk that he made a mistake about Wagner's Russian special forces. How would not have to save him as Yanukovych.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 14 August 2020 16: 51 New
        0
        Very, very likely such a scenario ...
  • Stammelford
    Stammelford 14 August 2020 12: 14 New
    +8
    And don't say, enemies are everywhere ...
  • jeka424
    jeka424 14 August 2020 12: 16 New
    +3
    It's good to think up that someone is to blame for the situation, except himself
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 14 August 2020 12: 17 New
    +9
    Insanity does not allow onions to live in peace? The shutdown of Belarusian enterprises is an internal problem of Belarus itself, it is stupid to look for an external enemy here, because they themselves must understand that the market will not wait until the Belarusians hold a meeting! And to blame all of Russia onion is now for the good of keeping quiet, otherwise all around are byaks, in Belarus there are two good ones left - an onion and a wheelchair. ..
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 14 August 2020 12: 20 New
    +3
    1. "Lukashenka, using the term" svyadomyya "- right -" svidomity "
    2. I didn't understand the message of the article. As if he said something Russophobic. But in fact, he is right when he says - miss the market niche - there will be someone who will take it. On the contrary, I see this as a compliment.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 14 August 2020 12: 26 New
      +3
      So this is the usual message here to fuel the discussion.
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 14 August 2020 12: 28 New
        +1
        Tooting. In recent days, under all articles about Belarus, there is a full house. True, the number of witnesses of the holy maydaun is somewhat surprising.
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 14 August 2020 12: 37 New
          0
          Well, on the example of the Maidan in 2014, directors from overseas made conclusions and, taking into account the mentality of people in Belarus, suggested a slightly different story. There is no specific meeting place, no specific leader of speeches, no specific proposals for the future of the country. The usual raevod for suckers.
          1. RUnnm
            RUnnm 14 August 2020 12: 51 New
            -3
            Plus, the dad himself showed that he was ready for decisive action and discouraged the skakuas.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 10 New
              +2
              Quote: RUnnm
              Plus, the dad himself showed that he was ready for decisive action and discouraged the skakuas.

              Therefore, everyone was released from prison and the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs apologized laughing
              1. RUnnm
                RUnnm 14 August 2020 13: 53 New
                +3
                You will lie somewhere on chevto-bloChitnyh sites. All that the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs said is that all INNOCERS will be released
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: RUnnm
                  You will lie somewhere on chevto-bloChitnyh sites.

                  You are not careful. To convict someone of something, you need to know the question

                  So you are a liar
        2. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 14 August 2020 13: 01 New
          0
          Quote: RUnnm
          True, the number of witnesses to the holy maydaun is somewhat surprising.

          The cat does not go to the dirty litter box - it starts looking for "ownerless slippers and sofas" for its business.
    2. boni592807
      boni592807 14 August 2020 13: 52 New
      +1
      Colleague - RUnnm (nnm), Today, 12:20, NEW
      1. "Lukashenka, using the term" svyadomyya "- right -" svidomity "hi :

      1. It is necessary, at least a little, to imagine the difference not only in dialects of the Russian language in Russia (the former USSR) - a primitive example - in the Vologda region - O-cabins, in the Moscow region local A-cabins (Moscow and Maskva), but also the difference between the Russian language and Ukrainian (Little Russian), and even more so if they started to speak from Belarusian. Don't put yourself in a stupid position. what
      2.As already noted in the commentsoh, Rygorievich, not white and fluffy, but kept much of the USSR (industry for example), Belarus did not reach the Chinese garlic and nails. Many social guarantees. According to the situation, he NEEDS to maneuver between forces and neighbors, staying at the core strategically with Russia. Now it goes to China. Why, China appeared try to think. Significant forces in Russia have repeatedly created difficulties for Belarus and the possibility of unification with Russia.(find the words of Lukoshenko about the perspective of the once created Union State). An example - schadenfreude and promotion of the current situation in Belarus is vividly presented, incl. in comments.
      3. It is a pity that it is impossible to move THESE "aching for tears" keepers of the funds from Soros to ... Move to a probable situation of consequences, which, if God forbid good luck, will be several times harder than on the edge. NATO exercises + everything in the "hand" of the United States - why are we transferring bases from Germany to Eastern Europe? + The Armed Forces of Ukraine under "friendly" US control and + NATO members are already on the territory of Eastern Europe.
      4. Now inpolling for RAM availability - what other top US officials (from generals to representatives of the US President) have again distinguished themselves about over the past year - let me remind you about Kaliningrad, the Black Sea and Russia. + in the USA there is a crisis from economic to political with a "GOOD" perspective to ethnic.
      What is the way out !? bully
      Let's remember how we solved THIS issue in 1 and 2 MV. That's right - MV is the aggressor, who is right - Russia (they have long taught the WORLD and Europe to this idea). Based on 1 and 2 MB, which was VERY profitable for the United States, you can solve everything, write everything off (a huge financial bubble, satellites starting to resist (Germany - Severn.potok) and in fact everything is strategically thought out and according to plan bully .
      Will they be scared ?! Perhaps, but the main beneficiary in the United States, THEM is much smaller than the population of the United States - let me remind you, how much belongs to those who control the world economy (recently one of the leaders of the international organization named)? These "partners" have everything to sit comfortably with hard development. Let's not diminish the capabilities of partners and exaggerate our own. Dangerous - Sunts-zy.
      5.T.h. because the so-called rossiyanskiye "fans" for the "standing" Belarus and U "Ukraine" information for thought, if the situation is missed and as under Yanukovych, Father will be thrown. That. such nonsense "partners" which ensured in 2014 the possibility of Russia to get the Crimea (otherwise the base of the Navy, the US Air Force and other biological military laboratories) and almost in the future the entire southeast of Ukraine with access to Prednistrov (they did not forget, there are OUR and military forces in the ring. ), will not be missed !!! But here THEY bully , will not be almond. As with the capture of one of the cities of Europe by the Catholics, which had citizens of both Catholics and Protestants, there was a command to take the city quickly, harshly and to "stimulate" the troops the city was given over to the army for 3 days. When asked. how to be, after all true Catholics can suffer? The representative of Catholicism reassured the commander - "... Don't worry, God himself will figure out where the soul of a true Catholic is, and where is the apostate Protestants ..." love
      Conspiracy ?! what Those who think will calculate the possibilities, and the rest is no longer important.
      In Russian fairy tales, there is a good TOTAL for the story told. "... A fairy tale is a lie, but a hint, a lesson for good fellows ..." I am sure every nation has a similar saying. Good luck, colleagues! hi
  • Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 14 August 2020 12: 22 New
    +3
    Lukashenka is completely out of touch with reality.
    Life hangs on a thread, but thinks about profit


    Here is what Lukashenka says about the strikes: “As I was told, there was only one example at MAZ or MTZ: 20 people decided to express their opinion, quit their jobs and went. The head of production says: okay, guys, I have enough people, all this salary is these people. Turned around, went back to work. "
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 14 August 2020 12: 27 New
      -3
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Lukashenka is completely out of touch with reality.
      Life hangs on a thread, but thinks about profit

      He thinks about his country, and about the preservation of production. What does the "profit" have to do with it? Mislead others with your nonsense. It's not all like you, out of touch with reality ..
  • Camrad
    Camrad 14 August 2020 12: 23 New
    +1
    I propose a great way for Lukashenka - how to annoy the "elder brother" and other "competitors".
    Lukashenka is resigning, and I think that strikes at BelAZ and other enterprises will stop immediately. And the Russians, together with the Germans and Canadians, will only shrug their hands out of frustration and disappointment ...
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 14 August 2020 12: 23 New
    +2
    I'm not abroad - show your face ...
    In the meantime, armored personnel carriers in Minsk ...
  • bald
    bald 14 August 2020 12: 26 New
    0
    Whatever they say - excuse the moderators - Ukraine was fucked up - now everything is according to the script, and we are inactive, damn it as much as possible! Or is it beneficial to someone in Russia ?! I doubt - only ahead of the curve and it doesn't matter if Lukashenka's shit or not.
    1. Camrad
      Camrad 14 August 2020 12: 32 New
      -4
      I agree that Russia needs to act energetically too. But I do not agree that this requires Lukashenka. I propose to send Lukashenka to the bunk in Matrosskaya Tishina, and to put ANY Belarusian on the throne in Minsk under the full control of Moscow.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 14 August 2020 12: 51 New
      -2
      On the one hand, the horses need to be driven into the stall in order to save the allied people, on the other it is logical to wait for this bastard to crawl on his knees first and ask, because if you help him now, he will sit around his neck like a spoiled child all his life. In general, he himself has the ability to disperse the mizzyans, in the end to smear them with tanks, and help here would not be required will.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 14 August 2020 13: 12 New
        -2
        Quote: Incvizitor
        in the end by tanks

        laughing think what will happen next ... With him. He is not
        1. Woodman
          Woodman 14 August 2020 13: 52 New
          +3
          Quote: Silvestr
          Silvestr (Sylvester)
          Today, 13: 12

          -2
          Quote: Incvizitor
          in the end by tanks

          think what will happen next ... With him. He is not

          China crushed such people with tanks. And as a result, the country was preserved, and the social system remained the same, and the economy of the whole world is "tied" to Chinese production.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 14 August 2020 22: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: Lesovik
            China crushed such people with tanks.

            so it is China! And this is Belarus, the Slavs. They did not submit to the Germans. So the tanks can go back and forth
    3. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 14 August 2020 13: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: bald
      Whatever they say - excuse the moderators - Ukraine was fucked up - now everything is according to the script, and we are inactive, damn it as much as possible! Or is it beneficial to someone in Russia ?! I doubt - only ahead of the curve and it doesn't matter if Lukashenka's shit or not.

      So far, nothing has been pissed away. Let's not rush to conclusions.
      A fragment from the "Blog of Kota Moti" across Belarus
      “You just need to realize that it was not we who brewed all this against Lukashenka. That clearly all during this time we saw ourselves both in Russia and in Belarus. We didn’t spend money, strength and energy on this tailing. And most importantly, there is no one but US who would benefit from this situation. ”We only needed to be silent, not to interfere and not to move at all.
      And now citizen Lukashenka, if he wanted to stir up something with the Europeans or amers, or something else, now he clearly understood that either a prison or a grave awaits him right there and nothing else .. Whatever he promised them and how He didn't smile at them - they threw all their forces against him in a blue eye, and now they will begin to press him with sanctions and other condemnations. And that's great.
      If Russia weren’t there, Lukashenka would still be shaken, because the power is nearby, it is in Poland, but they cannot cook up what we give them stupidly in the face, because Lukashenka is alive and well, and now he has nowhere get away, except to love the one with all your heart, because of whom he is still alive, and Belarus is not smashed to pieces.
      WE got a huge benefit without lifting a finger, because everything that stinking flies do against us will turn out to be exclusively for our benefit. "
      The original is here: https://catmotya.blogspot.com/
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 14 August 2020 12: 28 New
    -9
    If the people are illiterate and do not think beyond their wicket, then they need to explain it in an accessible language, even if not always based on truthful information. Our scattered people swallow Shapiro (Solovievs), Satanovskys and other Russian teachers and vote for a pension that they will never see and the Constitution that they have never read. So, Old Man is right, but in fact what is he wrong about? That the market will immediately be filled with someone else's products? Well, we are also producing tractors, and no one will change the purchased 10 tractors for new fashionable ones in 1 year, so you won't sell them there, that's what he says.
  • nobody111body
    nobody111body 14 August 2020 12: 28 New
    -8
    no matter what smelly articles would be written, the Jews of Lukashenka cannot penetrate and they are unlikely to be able to play off the Russians and Belarusians the dough will not be enough; and how are things between India and China, an attempt to persecute two countries ended in failure
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 August 2020 12: 28 New
    +5
    Author, the market doesn't care where ... Russian tractors will go to the Russian market instead of Belarusian ones. It is almost all the same for factories in Russia.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 14 August 2020 12: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Author, the market doesn't care where ... Russian tractors will go to the Russian market instead of Belarusian ones. It is almost all the same for factories in Russia.

      You are a little wrong. The market has a certain demand. And you won’t sell anymore. The tractor is not bought every day. Well, you have to look at the price. So Russian factories will gladly send tractors to Belarus or to another country. Although I’m sure a certain stock in warehouses there is
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 August 2020 12: 29 New
    +2
    "I am still alive and not abroad." Such "leaders" are often betrayed by their own people.
  • RUnnm
    RUnnm 14 August 2020 12: 31 New
    -3
    Quote: Thrifty
    And blame all of Russia onion now for the good of keeping quiet

    Sorry, but where did you see what he is blames Russia? He just states the obvious. That either you earn, or that this niche will be occupied by others and the money will pass you by. There, Germany and Canada are also mentioned. Do you think he blames them too?
  • artifact
    artifact 14 August 2020 12: 32 New
    0
    All Lukashenka's accusations against Russia remind me of one movie "Night Fun". who looked will understand
    1. Dmitry10SPb
      Dmitry10SPb 14 August 2020 13: 56 New
      +1
      Selling love with elements of masochism? Nah. Did not watch.
  • vonWolfenstein
    vonWolfenstein 14 August 2020 12: 39 New
    +4
    Lukashenka is a typical timocrat, constantly playing on confrontation of interests and engaged in demagoguery. He understands that the Russian Federation does not want to have an anti-Russian country close by and uses the position of a union state, sometimes flirting with the West. But you can't sit on two chairs. In addition, a generation has grown up with instilled Western democratic values, such as "continuity of power". And the older generation has also developed this concept. He simply won't be able to leave quietly. Everyone will remember him, and what he is to blame and not to blame.
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 14 August 2020 12: 41 New
    +2
    At the same time, for some reason, Lukashenka did not inform that the bulk of the Belarusian machine-building industry is focused specifically on the Russian market - it is Russia that buys more than other Belarusian trucks and agricultural machines.


    I see he's already just blazing ... No one is able to shut up this fountain of feces?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 14 August 2020 12: 43 New
    0
    Anyway, he blabbed so much .... figs with him, unfortunately, and his work in Belarus took root the virus of Svidomo and dependency, possibly in a difficult stage.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 14 August 2020 12: 44 New
    0
    Actually, what else can he say ... That's how differently, in his position, he must say, especially to the striking enterprises .. request
  • nobody111body
    nobody111body 14 August 2020 12: 57 New
    -3
    the infanticide netanyahu has put together a gang of pilots led by morkin and are raiding Syrian schools, so he is a hero of Israel and a democrat; Well, yes, Lukashenka will not feel sorry for these pro-Jewish nits
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 14 August 2020 13: 02 New
    +1
    strikes destroy the economy of Belarus because the Russian market, in the absence (disruptions) of supplies, will find a replacement ... the entire sanctions regime of the West and the prohibitions have already shown this ... yes, not quickly ... BUT we will definitely find a replacement ...
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 14 August 2020 14: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: silberwolf88
      because the Russian market in the absence (disruptions) of supplies will find a replacement

      Russian manufacturers of agricultural machinery in the first half of the year increased output by 20%, to 72 billion rubles, according to Rosspetsmash ... Output increased ... of all-wheel drive tractors - by 11%, to 1,32 thousand units ... https : //www.kommersant.ru/doc/4424204
      The question is - "We expect that by 2030, in accordance with the figures laid down in the strategy for the development of agricultural machinery, we will reach 80% of the domestic machinery market. By the end of 2019, the share of Russian machinery in the domestic market exceeded 54%. "- Alexander Morozov, Deputy Head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/8985215
      According to the same Kommersant, in 2013 this share was 24% What will happen by 30 ... we will see, but the course is clearly taken to support the domestic, strikes will end sooner or later, but it would be nice to find a common language ... "Our friends- manufacturers from Belarus sell equipment on our market, and not in small quantities, and Rostselmash cannot sell a single agricultural machine on the Belarusian market "...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 14: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: BrTurin
        Our friends-manufacturers from Belarus sell machinery in our market, and not in small quantities, and Rostselmash cannot sell a single agricultural machinery in the Belarusian market "...


        The reason is simple - the cost of agricultural machinery manufactured in Belarus is lower than that of the same Rosselmash.
        But also the quality is at the price level. Combines of Gomel production bring our farmers to hysteria due to constant failure.
        In my small homeland, only Rosselmash and John Deere domestic are in use, not counting the old Soviet tractors. Buy exclusive amerovskoy agricultural equipment in special cases. Belarusian agricultural machines are not welcome.
  • raid14
    raid14 14 August 2020 13: 02 New
    +1
    At the same time, Lukashenka for some reason did not say that the bulk of the Belarusian mechanical engineering is focused specifically on the Russian market - it is Russia that buys more than other Belarusian trucks and agricultural machines. Therefore, statements that Russians will benefit from a strike at Belarusian enterprises look at least strange. During the strike, Belarus will certainly not have time to buy Russian tractors instead of its own.

    A banal carve-up of some who are waiting for a change of power in Belarus to make a prank of operating enterprises, bankrupt and withdraw money through offshore companies.
    The situation with the production of tractors in Russia:
    According to the head of Rostec Sergey Chemezov, the largest machine-building concern of Russia "Tractor Plants" will be declared bankrupt. His debts amount to 85 billion rubles and, according to Chemezov, "the financial recovery of the company at the moment is no longer possible."

    The structure of the Concern Tractor Plants includes the following production sites:

    Altai Motor Plant OJSC - liquidated
    Vladimir Motor-Tractor Plant LLC - liquidated
    OJSC PA Krasnoyarsk Combine Plant - declared bankrupt
    "Volgograd Engineering Company" VgTZ "- liquidated
    Zauralsky Forge and Foundry - is on the verge of bankruptcy
    OJSC Krasnoyarsk Forest Engineering Plant (Kralesmash)
    Lipetsk Caterpillar Tractor Plant - declared bankrupt
    Onega Tractor Plant - declared bankrupt
    PJSC Promtractor - declared bankrupt
    JSC "Promtractor Wagon" - declared bankrupt
    LLC "Promtractor-Promlit" - declared bankrupt
    SAREX OJSC (production of excavators) - declared bankrupt
    "Tractor company" VgTZ "- declared bankrupt
    PJSC Cheboksary Aggregate Plant - declared bankrupt
    Volzhsky combine plant.
    OJSC Kurgan Machine-Building Plant ("Kurganmashzavod

    East-to ed.msk.ru/v-rossii-likvidiruyutsya-krupnejshie-traktornye-zavody/
    1. bukhach
      bukhach 14 August 2020 14: 01 New
      +1
      That is, the Khan of Agricultural Machinery on a general scale, so to speak, while harvesting only on imports will be carried out or manually. sad
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 14 August 2020 16: 21 New
      0
      Altai Motor Plant OJSC - liquidated

      There was news here recently, they want to persuade the Chinese to invest in the resumption of production ... the plant is actually actually a khan, the engines are made in units, already part of the territory has been bitten off by rats. But ATZ is definitely a cover, the territory is like after carpet bombing.
    3. minus
      minus 14 August 2020 18: 41 New
      +1
      The Kambaynovy plant in Krasnoyarsk was completely destroyed, the buildings were demolished for residential development. Kraslesmash hasn't worked for a long time either ...
    4. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 15 August 2020 00: 00 New
      0
      Quote: raid14
      The situation with the production of tractors in Russia:

      we write in the search engine "production of agricultural machinery in Russia" and easily find 137 operating industries.
      you are a dull provocateur. request
  • 1536
    1536 14 August 2020 13: 07 New
    +3
    Of course, the comrade is right. But there is a Uralkali enterprise in Russia. Question: "Why was it impossible to unite Uralkali and Beloruskali within the framework of the" union state "? Simple logic and arithmetic: it is easier for enterprises to survive together than separately. And what do we see. Canada is the world's leading producer of potassium - 12 million tons in 2017 (I did not find later data). Russia and Belarus follow ... Russia - from 7,2 million tons per year, Belarus - 6,4 million tons. Together they get 13,6 million tons of potash fertilizers per year, i.e. almost 50% of the market. And Canada in this case remains far behind. Who in this case is profitable and who is not profitable from the merger of potash production and booze in Belarus? and Russia and Belarus are in a union (on paper) state. And the same is true in mechanical engineering, automobile manufacturing, optical-mechanical production of the Republic of Belarus. But, of course, everyone knows that there is no prophet in their homeland. These, in my opinion, the Greeks were the first came up with their Diogenes. Here the Greeks have since and continue to sit in a barrel, got out only to pay off interest on loans.
    One of the leaders of Uralkali today, by the way, proposes to create a Committee for the Salvation of Belarus. He comes from Minsk himself. Did you realize it too late? But the Canadians are probably already in Ukrainian hotels and counting their future profits.
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 14 August 2020 13: 08 New
    +3
    Lukashenka now needs to step on his mustache and start a dialogue with Russia, except for the Russians, no one will give him support. And if he wants to keep the state in the form it is, go for rapprochement with the Russian Federation.
  • nobody111body
    nobody111body 14 August 2020 13: 10 New
    -4
    Lukashenka will continue to build socialism in his republic, he will keep the KGB and will crush any venal scum with tanks, and whoever feels bad, let him go to Israel, for example, it’s always good there
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 14 August 2020 23: 03 New
      0
      Quote: nobody
      will crush all the venal scum with tanks

      start, Kutuzov
  • Anton S
    Anton S 14 August 2020 13: 15 New
    -1
    He has already sailed. The point of no return is passed. Probably, he did not study mathematics at school, so he does not count well (in this case, the voices).
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 14 August 2020 13: 36 New
    +1
    Lukashenka mentioned the Russians as an example in the case of the machine-building industry. According to Lukashenka, if today the enterprises do not produce 10 tractors, then "the Germans with the Americans will arrive, and the Russians will immediately bring their equipment."

    And again they cross.

    At the same time, Lukashenka for some reason did not say that the bulk of the Belarusian mechanical engineering is focused specifically on the Russian market - it is Russia that buys more than other Belarusian trucks and agricultural machines. Therefore, statements that Russians will benefit from a strike at Belarusian enterprises look at least strange. During the strike, Belarus will certainly not have time to buy Russian tractors instead of its own.

    if you quote his statement verbatim, there will be no wrong conclusions about the supply of Russian tractors to Belarus,

    but he said something completely different:

    You won't produce 10 tractors today, do not put on the MARKET, tomorrow the Germans will come with the Americans, the Russians will bring their equipment. They will also cross themselves, "the President noted.
    "Everybody is fighting for these markets. If we stop, we will never start our production. Never! We will still be pushed into this swamp. People need to explain this: if you want, go on strike, if you want to work, work."

    Those. not to Belarus will not be delivered, but on market at all . Where, on the market, tractors instead of Belarusians will be supplied by Germans, Americans and Russians.
    everything is logical.
  • lapwings
    lapwings 14 August 2020 13: 37 New
    0
    There is a certain logic in Lukashenka's words. But this would be justified in the calm period of the country's development. In today's conditions, it no longer works.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 August 2020 13: 41 New
    +1
    Chet Grygorich has some kind of persecution mania. Now, get yourself together, President or who?
  • Rubi0
    Rubi0 14 August 2020 13: 42 New
    0
    Everything is pouring slop on the Russian Federation, why Putin recognized him as president. Judging by his words around the enemies, it may be necessary to become at least not friends of this mustachioed
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 August 2020 13: 49 New
    +1
    what "You will want to live and you will not be so hot." (c) One thing is clear, if Luka's opponents come, then the Belarusians will end. For anti-Russian hysteria will begin, the collapse of industry and the accompanying "nishtyaks". Although with all this for us it is not the most optimal option. Conclusion, our "State Department" does not know how to work for the future. Or doesn't want to.
  • Berg berg
    Berg berg 14 August 2020 13: 51 New
    +1
    Belarusians, you probably did not notice how Western ambassadors and diplomats quickly rushed out to your street !? The memory was knocked out of how they handed out cookies on the Ukrainian Maidan !? And now what about this Ukraine, beggars and beggars, YOU want it !?
  • Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 14 August 2020 13: 51 New
    -1
    Political corpse. Talking ... An interesting case from the point of view of pathological anatomy.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 August 2020 14: 14 New
      +1
      You, my dear man, are generally zilch and also write, not understanding the difference between biological and political. They should have received education and a decent profession. Mom and Dad would not be ashamed of their offspring!
      1. Dmitry10SPb
        Dmitry10SPb 14 August 2020 14: 58 New
        -3
        Believe me, in the case of Lukashenka, the difference between political and anatomical corpses is insignificant. This one will not go to Rostov. Shoot himself, probably. With the profession of the last 30 years, all the rules.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 14 August 2020 13: 56 New
    +1
    And this is the EXTREME stupidity and stupidity of Lukashenko: his Western and American "friends" -non-friends threaten him and do everything to overthrow him, but he continues to swear and bark at Russia and the Russians! Is Rygorych really crazy?
  • ACCUSED
    ACCUSED 14 August 2020 14: 05 New
    0
    How much bile is in Luka for Russia! Putin, no need to help Lukoshka and let him get out without Russia.
  • Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 14 August 2020 16: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Silvestr

    And this was in Minsk? Stop nodding to Ukraine. There Maidan caught fire after being beaten by Berkut. Don't draw conclusions either - violence breeds violence

    Houses and members of the Berkut were on fire on the Maidan. And the wrestlers drank psychotropic substances in a free tea and, in a stoned frenzy, threw stones and sticks at the standing security forces.

    Events in Belarus are an internal affair of Belarusians. But I sincerely do not wish them to follow the Ukrainian scenario. There is no need for a civil war. War is death and destruction. And those who are in shape on the other side are not enemies, no matter how they try to convince you of this.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 14 August 2020 16: 34 New
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      Quote: Glory to Berkut
      War is death and destruction. And those who are in shape on the other side are not enemies, no matter how they try to convince you of this

      He who did not love will not understand ..
      Any state in any form is the presence of a police apparatus for combating crime in any form.
      It is sad to see how our liberal patriots criticize the actions of Interior Ministry officials to suppress riots in recent years. The story with the Ukrainian Berkut passed by their "liberated non-slave consciousness". The fate of those who stood and died on the Maidan, and even after it, does not bother today's human rights activists, who take away the right to protection from both the state and the riot police and the Internal Troops. As a result, in / in Ukraine, the local police perform the duties of the official cover for the local Nazis, Bandera death squads. Those. the situation is similar to that in Guatemala and Honduras in the 80s and 90s of the last century.
      If the Maidan began with the indignation of "get out there!", Today "peaceful women and old men" are being substituted.
      The difference is not in the age of the "victims", but in the approach itself, with the blame shifting onto the law enforcement agencies.
      The task of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Belarus today is to prevent the spread of mass (and, by and large, unnecessary) riots, to isolate and isolate the instigators, provocateurs and organizers.
      hi
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 15 August 2020 00: 07 New
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        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The task of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Belarus today is to prevent the spread of mass (and, by and large, unnecessary) riots, to isolate and isolate the instigators, provocateurs and organizers.

        it would not be bad if the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Bashkortostan still doped that it was necessary not to catch the militants but to fight the organizers. with syphilis it is useless to smear chancre with brilliant green request
  • Tota
    Tota 14 August 2020 17: 38 New
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    And Canada will take the place of the Belazs. Although their equipment is more expensive, it will not fail on the market. Let him also think about MAZA, there is a very large selection of competitors in terms of price and quality
  • senima56
    senima56 14 August 2020 17: 49 New
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    Father, return the guys! And then at least be baptized, at least ..... fool
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 15 August 2020 00: 08 New
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      Quote: senima56
      Father, return the guys!

      not fig. let them think carefully about what waving a white and red rag leads to. yes
  • Clueless
    Clueless 14 August 2020 18: 00 New
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    Old Man, as with Khabarovsk, decided to give a ride to the people, like they will strike, they will hold a meeting and stop. Yeah, I was dreaming. Another day, and the patience will obviously run out among the people, especially when it bears such nonsense.

    Or he specifically wants them to start burning tires near the government house, then ah, yay .. maydanutye, help Russia, security forces face.

    No wonder one guy said - Lukashenka will fight for his power to the last Belarusian and security officer.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 August 2020 21: 20 New
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    The security forces are tearing their ass at least for the state, but those who throw Molotov cocktails at them at night the better?
    Didn't Ukrainian history teach people anything?
    All the kotovasia is due to wresting the state from one zone of influence to another, from one market to another. Specifically, to tear them away from Russia.
    Loot steers.
    Well, they will become an independent protectorate of Poland (it’s something from Poland that comes to the result of deification, encouraging Protestants and throwing fakes), well, they will get a couple of silk panties more, and then?
    Will they go to clean the toilets and pick strawberries? Or do they think Russia will continue to drive oil and gas at the lowest prices?
    I am not making excuses for Lukashenka (80% of him is idiocy) and some security officials from the plow.
    But, I can imagine what kind of “goat's face” my grandfather showed that riot policeman, who got a club on the forehead and what he said before he was tied down.
    I do not justify the riot policemen who beat a lying civilian with a club - they are brutes.
    But the grandfather, the “freedom fighter”, provoked them 100%, and he is no less an “unwise person”!

    So they mostly have a Pole's card there laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 August 2020 21: 30 New
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    Yes made cho porridge laughing And how it began: "Alyaksandr Lukashenka was beaten by the police in the Government House." All Belarusian newspapers, published on June 29, 1994, literally shouted headlines. laughing Yeltsin also flew from the bridge. When the cops begin to be brought down, then the "epochal incorruptibility of the Belarusian cops" will collapse ... It was already, don't even ask where ...

    It’s even funny for me to read these comments, life sometimes turns things around so that it’s difficult to understand the logic of what happened ... Belarus is such a country, especially since the leader himself does not understand where the country is leading? What can we expect from the country's population? Complete discord and moonshine ... ehe-he ...
  • Mitreus
    Mitreus 15 August 2020 14: 14 New
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    Yes, they would have sighed calmly. And they would finally start to support their manufacturers of equipment, and not feed these comrades
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 August 2020 16: 36 New
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    These are totalitarian tractors, but democratic ones will be brought ... at one time they said so.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 August 2020 09: 54 New
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    Well, what, there will be an impetus to the development of our own production in Russia, for replacement.
  • shed
    shed 16 August 2020 11: 55 New
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    even though the stench is less, but there are still a lot of lies here and disgusting, for those who do not know if production stops in Belarus it will be worse than with Ukraine, who understand what industrial cooperation is, there are millions of jobs in Russia, just like in Belarus. all your khadorkovsky bulk Makarevichs, in general, you have a lot of trash, well, about the west and pind * owls and there is nothing to say